Teicher:On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look

[Tribal Warfare]

On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look (http://www.kansascity.com/2013/07/26/4370377/on-first-play-at-camp-chiefs-show.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid delivered a not-so-subtle message Friday with the first play at Chiefs training camp. He had quarterback Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.

The play served notice that after two seasons with a dormant passing attack, the Chiefs intend to revive it in a big way.

“I wasn’t ready for that,” Smith said. “I came up and I got a good look for it. Crowd pleaser.”

Much more needs to happen before the passing game can be called successful. But the intent is obviously there. Smith completed another deep pass to McCluster a few plays later.

As much as Reid enjoyed the big plays, he liked the consistency of the passing game. Smith, who completed 70 percent of his passes for the 49ers last season, went several plays into practice before throwing his first incompletion.

“There weren’t a lot of balls on the ground, and it looked like the defense had people covered,” Reid said. “They were in position.”

The trade for Smith was the biggest of the offseason moves aimed at revitalizing a sluggish offense. Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft and San Francisco’s long-time starter, is used to such pressure.

“I’m much better equipped to handle it now,” Smith said. “When you’re a young guy and coming in and playing early, I dwelled on (negative things) too much. I let it affect my play too much. I tried to please everybody.

“I’m going to play my game. I’m going to try to work as hard as I can to get as good as I can and try to reach my potential and win a bunch of games. That’s the goal. I’m not worried about a bunch of other things.”

Smith received another peek at the expectations waiting for him at the end of practice, when a fan called to him asking Smith to be the Chiefs’ savior.

“That’s a strong word,” Smith said. “That’s a great example. When I was younger, I would have taken that literally. I tried to make every single throw and I tried to prove to everybody on every single play that, yeah, I could do this.”

That McCluster was on the receiving end of Smith’s long passes was another bonus for the Chiefs. They practiced without their most accomplished receiver, Dwayne Bowe, who is on the non-football injury list with a viral condition.

Bowe may return to practice as soon as Saturday. But no matter when he plays, the Chiefs are still in search of a consistent threat to go along with him. The diminutive McCluster has long tantalized the Chiefs with his big-play ability, but he has delivered precious few such plays since arriving as a rookie in 2010.

He bounced from receiver to running back and again to receiver, never seeming to find a comfortable spot. While it’s far too early to call him a changed player in Reid’s offense, it’s a start.

“It’s always good to start a first practice … with a big one,” McCluster said. “I’m happy I held on to the ball.”

Reid’s arrival could rescue McCluster’s career, which stalled last season under coach Romeo Crennel. Reid, then coaching the Philadelphia Eagles, was intrigued by McCluster when he was available in the 2010 draft.

The Chiefs got to him first, but Reid began making plans for McCluster shortly after arriving in Kansas City in January.

“He gives you a little flexibility,” Reid said. “You can move him around a Iittle. We’ll use him here and there.”

During offseason practice and again on Friday, McCluster lined up in a variety of spots.

“I don’t know where he couldn’t line up, to be honest, as far as skill positions go,” Smith said. “He’s got that many tools in the belt.”

Another offensive player the Chiefs are counting on is rookie running back Knile Davis. The Chiefs hope he can be turned into a kickoff return specialist, even though he never returned a kick during a game in college at Arkansas.

That process got off to a rough start Friday when Davis, who was a frequent fumbler in college, dropped a kickoff.

“We’ll get that fixed,” Reid said.

[cdcox]

McCluster training camp phenom.

[cdcox]

Knile "I'll never fumble again" Davis?

Yep, it's football season.

[beach tribe]

Regardless of how you feel about the trade or Alex Smith in general, who here wouldnt LOVE it if Ried turned him into beast.
I would say sweet dick Willie, but he was "Fully On board" with Cassel after the 10' Seattle game.

[Marcellus]

He had quarterback Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.


No other sentence has caused more anger and frustration in the history of CP.

LMAO

[Cannibal]

McCluster will see some reverses and screens coming his way this year.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Please let us win a playoff game this year. I know I should just be asking for three wins (baby steps) but wow, that'd be a nice gift.

[Easy 6]

MCCLUSTER MCLUSTER HE'S OUR MAN IF HE CANT DO IT NO ONE CAN!11

[keg in kc]

No other sentence has caused more anger and frustration in the history of CP. Laughter maybe.

It reminds me of the deep preseason touchdown pass to Dante Hall many moons ago (I don't remember if it was Green or Collins that threw that one). Either way...it never happened in a game.

Much, I would think, like a deep pass from Smith to McClusterfuck.

[RealSNR]

“I’m going to play my game. I’m going to try to work as hard as I can to get as good as I can and try to reach my potential and win a bunch of games. That’s the goal. I’m not worried about a bunch of other things.
There's that word again. "Potential."

Why do we always have to use that word when we acquire 28-year old starting QBs? Shouldn't they have already reached their potential by the time we get them?

I'll bet Drew Brees didn't go to the Saints and talk about "potential." I'll bet Peyton Manning didn't go to the Donks and say "potential."

[Marcellus]

Laughter maybe.

It reminds me of the deep preseason touchdown pass to Dante Hall many moons ago (I don't remember if it was Green or Collins that threw that one). Either way...it never happened in a game.

Much, I would think, like a deep pass from Smith to McCluster****.

LMAO you best check your history.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

McCluster will no doubt see his talent finally utilized.

[Buzz]

That's arena ball, don't they know it's run, run, pass, punt.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.

Ya know, deep down the middle to a Chiefs fan could be about their peter length.

[keg in kc]

you best check your history.I must've missed that year where dante hall was more than a token receiver. Did he ever net 500 yards in a season? Were any of the "deep" passes he received in regular season games anything other than screens?

(These are legitimate questions; I have a terrible memory)

[O.city]

He caught a pass down the seam against the Bills on SNF for a TD, IIRC.

However, I think it was a hot route.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I must've missed that year where dante hall was more than a token receiver. Did he ever net 500 yards in a season? Were any of the "deep" passes he received in regular season games anything other than screens?

(These are legitimate questions; I have a terrible memory)

He caught a 60 plus yard TD pass against Buffalo in 03, seam pass. He caught a 50 yard TD pass against the Donkeys in 05 I believe. Didn't happen enough though I agree. That one against Denver was a busted coverage by Champ.

[keg in kc]

I would add to my prior comments that, based on what we've seen on the field the last three years, McCluster isn't anywhere close to Dante Hall. Which is part of my point I was trying to make: Dante Hall couldn't turn himself into a consistent receiving threat with a better quarterback, so I apologize for being skeptical about McCluster's ability to do it with a lesser skillset and Alex Smith.

Which would be why my first response to a 5'7 receiver without any kind of breakaway speed catching deep passes is a chuckle and doubt that I'll see that translated onto the field during the regular season.

But stranger things have happened.

[Marcellus]

I would add to my prior comments that, based on what we've seen on the field the last three years, McCluster isn't anywhere close to Dante Hall. Which is part of my point I was trying to make: Dante Hall couldn't turn himself into a consistent receiving threat with a better quarterback, so I apologize for being skeptical about McCluster's ability to do it with a lesser skillset and Alex Smith.

Which would be why my first response to a 5'7 receiver without any kind of breakaway speed catching deep passes is a chuckle and doubt that I'll see that translated onto the field during the regular season.

But stranger things have happened.


No reason to doubt Dex's ability to produce like that long term, I just wouldn't make shit up to try to make that point in the future.

[Chief Roundup]

Damn could you imagine if McCluster and Smith had good seasons. There is certain someone around here that would be in absolute misery.

[HonestChieffan]

No one even mentions Geno Whatshisname anymore.

[keg in kc]

No reason to doubt Dex's ability to produce like that long term, I just wouldn't make shit up to try to make that point in the future.Yeah, because I "make shit up" all the time.

Try turning down the douche. Maybe people would treat you a little better.

[Hammock Parties]

New look Chiefs! Noodle armed QB throwing bombs to midgets! Who needs strong arms and tall, fast receivers?

NANANANANANANA

YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION

[O.city]

Yeah, because I "make shit up" all the time.

Try turning down the douche. Maybe people would treat you a little better.

It's Marcellus. What do you expect? You said something bad about a Chief.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Regardless of how you feel about the trade or Alex Smith in general, who here wouldnt LOVE it if Ried turned him into beast.
I would say sweet dick Willie, but he was "Fully On board" with Cassel after the 10' Seattle game.

I'm fully on board with Bray. Smith can suck it, as can you.

[Line Judge]

A nickname for McCluster: The Scarlet Pimpernel

They seek him here. They seek him there.
Those Bronkos seek him everywhere.
Did he jink? Has he fell?
That damned, elusive Pimpernel.

With apologies to Baroness Orczy

[Hammock Parties]

Whoa, a lurker post.

I'm creeped out.

[TEX]

Davis as a return man will be a disaster. He fumbles and is an upright runner. Why do coaches like trying shit that will not work...

[Mav]

There's that word again. "Potential."

Why do we always have to use that word when we acquire 28-year old starting QBs? Shouldn't they have already reached their potential by the time we get them?

I'll bet Drew Brees didn't go to the Saints and talk about "potential." I'll bet Peyton Manning didn't go to the Donks and say "potential."

sighs. No one knew what they were getting with Drew Brees when he signed with the Saints. The Chargers kicked him to the curb, the Dolphins didn't want him. New Orleans was his 3rd option.

Of course Alex Smith can realize his potential at this point. He wouldn't be the first to be a late bloomer now would he?

Understand the CONTEXT of what I am saying.

Rich Gannon, and Kurt Warner. No, not saying that Alex Smith can be either one of those, but, Alex has a very similar skill set to Gannon. Mobility, their plusses as qbs being short accuracy, and being very smart.

Its amazing what situation and place can do for a guys career.

[Mav]

New look Chiefs! Noodle armed QB throwing bombs to midgets! Who needs strong arms and tall, fast receivers?

NANANANANANANA

YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION

All off season, you have been saying that you wanted a qb to throw the ball. Now, Andy Reid calls it, Alex Smith delivers it, and you spit on it.

Make up your fucking mind. Alex Smith is not noodle armed either dick head.

Its average, but its not Christian Ponder, or Colt McCoy weak either.

[Mav]

Davis as a return man will be a disaster. He fumbles and is an upright runner. Why do coaches like trying shit that will not work...

I completely agree. I don't understand this. At all.

[Easy 6]

I completely agree. I don't understand this. At all.

Meh, they're just taking a look at it, i'm sure that if he proves incapable he wont be doing it.

[-King-]

I would add to my prior comments that, based on what we've seen on the field the last three years, McCluster isn't anywhere close to Dante Hall. Which is part of my point I was trying to make: Dante Hall couldn't turn himself into a consistent receiving threat with a better quarterback, so I apologize for being skeptical about McCluster's ability to do it with a lesser skillset and Alex Smith.

Which would be why my first response to a 5'7 receiver without any kind of breakaway speed catching deep passes is a chuckle and doubt that I'll see that translated onto the field during the regular season.

But stranger things have happened.

McCluster is 300 yards from scrimmage away from passing Dante Hall CAREER yards from scrimmage. He's been better offensively than Hall.

[-King-]

All off season, you have been saying that you wanted a qb to throw the ball. Now, Andy Reid calls it, Alex Smith delivers it, and you spit on it.

Make up your fucking mind. Alex Smith is not noodle armed either dick head.

Its average, but its not Christian Ponder, or Colt McCoy weak either.

Oh look. You two dumbasses are going to have the same argument you've had in 30 other threads. Yay! We should just make an official GoChiefs vs. 49ers trolls thread for you guys.

[CrazyPhuD]

So is the play officially called the McCluster Chuck?

[milkman]

McCluster is 300 yards from scrimmage away from passing Dante Hall CAREER yards from scrimmage. He's been better offensively than Hall.

The fact that Trent Green could hit receivers, even marginally talented ones, downfield might have something to do with that.

[Pablo]

Fuck Smith. Fuck McCluster.

That is all.

[DaneMcCloud]

This report might be 100% accurate and a harbinger of things to come.

But JFC, we hear this shit every training camp and preseason and it equals two wins.

Color me skeptical.

[Hammock Parties]

So is the play officially called the McCluster Chuck?

McChuckster?

[Mav]

Oh look. You two dumbasses are going to have the same argument you've had in 30 other threads. Yay! We should just make an official GoChiefs vs. 49ers trolls thread for you guys.

Fuck you. Put me back on ignore. As long as im nothing but a troll to you, you can suck a big fat dick, and shut the fuck up.....

How about that queen?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Fuck you. Put me back on ignore. As long as im nothing but a troll to you, you can suck a big fat dick, and shut the fuck up.....

How about that queen?

LMAO

[-King-]

Fuck you. Put me back on ignore. As long as im nothing but a troll to you, you can suck a big fat dick, and shut the fuck up.....

How about that queen?

I wish I could. Really wish I could but super ignore works a little too well so I have to deal with you two menstruating all over each other in every thread.

[milkman]

**** you. Put me back on ignore. As long as im nothing but a troll to you, you can suck a big fat dick, and shut the **** up.....

How about that queen?

I believe I can actually hear the sound of your panties bunching up.

[Mav]

I wish I could. Really wish I could but super ignore works a little too well so I have to deal with you two menstruating all over each other in every thread.

cry me a fucking river you bloody vagina. I really couldn't care any less about your needing for affection and whiny isms. If you don't like what that I talk about, just skip over it. Okay cutie?

Now, get back on your knees like the bitch you are. No one told you to speak.

[-King-]

I believe I can actually hear the sound of your panties bunching up.

LMAO

[Mav]

I believe I can actually hear the sound of your panties bunching up.

who asked you sour puss. Mind your own fucking business too cock gobbler......

DUMBASS. Get anal fucked and raped with a herpesyphiltitusaids infested cock. Fuck you too......

[Hammock Parties]

Maverick, your thoughts on this new, sexy, downfield passing Alex Smith and his downfield big game threat, Dexter McChuckster?

[Mav]

But, Back on topic, while I make me another drink. Its great that Alex Smith is being made to take chances. Hope he throws deep all preseason. hell hope he throws every down. He needs to courage, and know that if he sees it, and lets it rip, and gives his guys a chance, some times, good things can happen. No more pussy footing Alex Smith. No EXCUSES, RULE NUMBER 137, PLAY LIKE A CHAMPION.

[Mav]

Maverick, your thoughts on this new, sexy, downfield passing Alex Smith and his downfield big game threat, Dexter McChuckster?

No idea. Know nothing about him, except that pre draft, when he was on first take, I thought he was lil wayne.........

[Hammock Parties]

hope he throws every down. He needs to courage

i agree

i always want my QB to courage

[Mav]

i agree

i always want my QB to courage

My drink is full of TO courage......

Im all off kilter. Who knows what kind of shit im liable to say tonight.

[Titty Meat]

Its not Baldwin beating a 5'9 scrub but it will do

[BlackHelicopters]

3-13

[bevischief]

Show me wins.

[BlackHelicopters]

Dexter McClusterfuck WR lulz
Dexter McClusterfuck Over the middle lulz

[TEX]

Its not Baldwin beating a 5'9 scrub but it will do

ROFL:clap: so freaking true. Total TURD of a pick.

[Marcellus]

Yeah, because I "make shit up" all the time.

Try turning down the douche. Maybe people would treat you a little better.

While I have to say I dont feel like I get treated badly except by a few I clash with, I probably have gone off the deep end over the last 6 months or so dealing with all the negativity.

This place is a cesspool of ****ing whiny bitches and I am getting drawn into the same shit and acting the same way on the other end.

I am actually a very happy positive person and would prefer to be that way, its hard to be that way here when every single thing that happens Chiefs related becomes a negative to 90% of this place. And yes, that is whats going on here.

I am going to do my very best to not get drawn into any more football debate over the same shit that keeps getting rehashed here over and over and wait and see what happens when we actually start playing football.

[OnTheWarpath15]

This report might be 100% accurate and a harbinger of things to come.

But JFC, we hear this shit every training camp and preseason and it equals two wins.

Color me skeptical.

Yep.

We win training camp every year.

I have no idea why people get carried away with what these guys do in shorts.

[Chief Roundup]

I must've missed that year where dante hall was more than a token receiver. Did he ever net 500 yards in a season? Were any of the "deep" passes he received in regular season games anything other than screens?

(These are legitimate questions; I have a terrible memory)

No he never broke 500 yds. He did have 2 season over 400yds. In 2003 he had 40 rec for 423 yds and 3TDs. He had 6 catches over 20 yards and one over 40 that went for 67 and a TD. In 2005 he had 36 recs for 436 yds and 3TDs. He had 5 catches over 20 yards and 2 over 40.

As far as numbers of receptions last year Kevin Walter, Vernon Davis, Joel Dreesen, Santana Moss, Darius Heyward-Bey, Anthony Fasano all had 41 receptions last year. Those are #1 TEs and #2 WRs so I would say his numbers for being the 3rd or 4th receiving option were pretty impressive.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Much butthurt it did cause

[Ace Gunner]

not sure if it was mentioned, but the guys on 610 just said DBowe is PUP because of a chest cold, essentially. He's congested. Should be ready to roll next week.

posted in the TC thread, didn't get any play so here maybe you guys might see this


and ya, folks in KC put too much stock in TC. It's a good thing when players do well during TC, but it isn't real game time and there is no way to use it as a measuring stick against other teams.

[Marcellus]

Yep.

We win training camp every year.

I have no idea why people get carried away with what these guys do in shorts.

On the other side a huge contingent complains about every negative that happens in shorts.

Most people are happy football is starting up again and really and excited for good things that could happen.

This fan base is no different than any other in that regard. Training camp is a fun time because anything can happen from there.

Yea you could focus on the worries and negatives but why do that?

The fact is this teams 2013 potential is a real mystery right now.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yup. Every negative report is treated like gospel. Stanzi incompletion: OMGZ BRAYS DA BESTEST EVER!!!

[Marcellus]

Yup. Every negative report is treated like gospel. Stanzi incompletion: OMGZ BRAYS DA BESTEST EVER!!!

Irony is that CP mantra is you must draft a QB in round 1 to win the SB but many of those same people are hanging their future hopes on an UDFA.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Irony is that CP mantra is you must draft a QB in round 1 to win the SB but many of those same people are hanging their future hopes on an UDFA.

BIG ARM!!!!

[Chief Roundup]

Yea you could focus on the worries and negatives but why do that?

I have wondered this myself. From what I have seen around here. It seems that a lot of the posters would rather be negative than be called a homer. It seems that these same posters would rather apologize for being wrong with some stupid cliche about 1 in a million type of thing than have hope and belief.
Some people can't handle the emotions of having a season of football go bad when they had been so positive about it.

[Chief Roundup]

Irony is that CP mantra is you must draft a QB in round 1 to win the SB but many of those same people are hanging their future hopes on an UDFA.
Duh man those posters don't believe the chiefs will draft a QB in the 1st. Also several of those same posters thought that Bray would have been drafted in the 1st if he had have been in a better situation. Blah Blah Blah.

[Mav]

Yep.

We win training camp every year.

I have no idea why people get carried away with what these guys do in shorts.

I understand that. But it is a good sign that they aren't dinking and dunking all over the place. How will that translate to when the bullets are flying? No idea.

[Brock]

Same shit every year.

[Sandy Vagina]

I have wondered this myself. From what I have seen around here. It seems that a lot of the posters would rather be negative than be called a homer. It seems that these same posters would rather apologize for being wrong with some stupid cliche about 1 in a million type of thing than have hope and belief.
Some people can't handle the emotions of having a season of football go bad when they had been so positive about it.

So much of this. This is why I don't throw around a ton of insults and simply roll my eyes at much... but too many people here really are weak lil pussies that refuse to get their hopes up because they will either be distraught or embarrassed if those hopes get crushed. Pussies and cowards... and they iz mad because they know it be true. :deevee:

[Mav]

So much of this. This is why I don't throw around a ton of insults and simply roll my eyes at much... but too many people here really are weak lil pussies that refuse to get their hopes up because they will either be distraught or embarrassed if those hopes get crushed. Pussies and cowards... and they iz mad because they know it be true. :deevee:

I don't understand it. Even in the Mike Singletary, Mike Nolan years, I was optimistic going in, that THIS WAS OUR YEAR....

Now, here there is a true reason for optimism, and some people just REFUSE to at least wait and see. They must lead seriously pathetic miserable lives.

[milkman]

I don't understand it. Even in the Mike Singletary, Mike Nolan years, I was optimistic going in, that THIS WAS OUR YEAR....

Now, here there is a true reason for optimism, and some people just REFUSE to at least wait and see. They must lead seriously pathetic miserable lives.

Perspective.

I don't believe Reid was the right hire, and I don't believe in Smith.

So there isn't any "true" reason for optimism.

[Sandy Vagina]

I don't understand it. Even in the Mike Singletary, Mike Nolan years, I was optimistic going in, that THIS WAS OUR YEAR....

Now, here there is a true reason for optimism, and some people just REFUSE to at least wait and see. They must lead seriously pathetic miserable lives.

Many of them say it is because we can not appreciate the LONG duration of KC suckage... I can somewhat appreciate that.. but still.. you can never lose your way like some seem to have. Doing so is only hurting one's self.

The hate, anger, and despair is mostly a front... a protective barrier put up to insulate them from another potential letdown. It is a self defense mechanism consciously or unconsciously deployed. If they express defeat and prepare for the worst? Then another devastating season will be less harmful. It's.. quite frankly.. the coward's way out... and gives them some semblance of a silver-lining (at least) that they can then scream out, "See!?!? I was right!"

[Brock]

You have to love niners fans telling everybody how to be a fan. You guys are front running fags, always have been.

[milkman]

Many of them say it is because we can not appreciate the LONG duration of KC suckage... I can somewhat appreciate that.. but still.. you can never lose your way like some seem to have. Doing so is only hurting one's self.

The hate, anger, and despair is mostly a front... a protective barrier put up to insulate them from another potential letdown. It is a self defense mechanism consciously or unconsciously deployed. If they express defeat and prepare for the worst? Then another devastating season will be less harmful. It's.. quite frankly.. the coward's way out... and gives them some semblance of a silver-lining (at least) that they can then scream out, "See!?!? I was right!"

Psycho babble.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I still find opposing fans spending so much time on a board to be REALLY creepy

[Sorter]

. This is why I don't throw around a ton of insults.... too many people here really are weak lil pussies. Pussies and cowards...

Clearly.

[RealSNR]

Many of them say it is because we can not appreciate the LONG duration of KC suckage... I can somewhat appreciate that.. but still.. you can never lose your way like some seem to have. Doing so is only hurting one's self.

The hate, anger, and despair is mostly a front... a protective barrier put up to insulate them from another potential letdown. It is a self defense mechanism consciously or unconsciously deployed. If they express defeat and prepare for the worst? Then another devastating season will be less harmful. It's.. quite frankly.. the coward's way out... and gives them some semblance of a silver-lining (at least) that they can then scream out, "See!?!? I was right!"

I hope the Niners go through what the Chiefs have gone through since 1994.

THEN you can talk to me about this bullshit. And no, the Erickson/Nolan/Singletary years DON'T count. That shit was over within 5 years. They're a tiny slump you guys suffered on a path of consistent wins and championships.

Get that shit the fuck out of here.

[Sorter]

I still find opposing fans spending so much time on a board to be REALLY creepy

Yup.

[SAUTO]

If everyone is just supposed to just wait and see what the fuck are e going to talk about here
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[Bowser]

What are the odds that Reid told his team to score a touchdown on the first play of camp to get the crowd all frenzied up?

BOOM!! CONSPIRACY!!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

How many snaps to Baldwin get at TE?

[SAUTO]

I still find opposing fans spending so much time on a board to be REALLY creepy

For sure.
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[SAUTO]

How many snaps to Baldwin get at TE?

Eleventybillion
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[MMXcalibur]

Trust me, I'm ecstatic that football is back in some capacity, but big plays in training camp don't do it for me. I'll start putting a little bit of stock in us turning this shitboat around when those types of plays start showing up in the preseason games.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

What are the odds that Reid told his team to score a touchdown on the first play of camp to get the crowd all frenzied up?

BOOM!! CONSPIRACY!!

I've heard he muttered "Fuck you Wendler" after drawing up the first play

[Sorter]

I've heard he muttered "**** you Wendler" after drawing up the first play

ROFL

[Valiant]

Regardless of how you feel about the trade or Alex Smith in general, who here wouldnt LOVE it if Ried turned him into beast.
I would say sweet dick Willie, but he was "Fully On board" with Cassel after the 10' Seattle game.

Yes. I would love to eat crow and humble pie. Only regular season and playoff highlights count though.

[Sandy Vagina]

Trust me, I'm ecstatic that football is back in some capacity, but big plays in training camp don't do it for me. I'll start putting a little bit of stock in us turning this shitboat around when it shows up in the preseason games.

Fair enough. And I don't think most or any are making this practice info a clear and indicative sign of success or failure. I think most agree that it's a wait-n-see process before becoming overly homeristic or defeated. But clearly, there are a lot of extreme and defeated... and that's a sad shame for any fanbase.

[2bikemike]

Yep.

We win training camp every year.

I have no idea why people get carried away with what these guys do in shorts.

This^. Part of the reason is the way the reporters like Teicher write it up. It sounds all rosy.

I take most TC reports with a grain of salt. I have learned over the years that you just never know how the team is going to come out and play that first week of real competition and how it will affect the rest of the season.

But this year I know for a fact that we can't be any worse than last year. We were at the bottom of the barrel last year so we can't be in 33rd place at the end of the upcoming season. We can only go up from here.

[Brock]

This above all is what I hate about trading for another team's qb. The goddamn moron fans who show up to tell us how great he is. We still haven't gotten rid of the shithead patriots fans who were here telling us the same fucking thing 4 years ago.

[-King-]

This above all is what I hate about trading for another team's qb. The goddamn moron fans who show up to tell us how great he is. We still haven't gotten rid of the shithead patriots fans who were here telling us the same fucking thing 4 years ago.

Even if he was great, I don't get why you would follow a player to another team and post on their messgae boards. Are there Chiefs fans posting on Viking boards because of Jared Allen? I honestly don't get it.
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[Sandy Vagina]

Even if he was great, I don't get why you would follow a player to another team and post on their messgae boards. Are there Chiefs fans posting on Viking boards because of Jared Allen? I honestly don't get it.
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Alex was just the catalyst to this, for me. I am frequently looking for a second favorite team behind the 49ers. All KC needed from me was a QB I liked... as I like everything else that is building in Chiefland. I get Sunday Ticket every year... and now having KC as my second team, I get the pleasure of focusing in on KC and SF games all year.. as only 3 or 4 weeks do they even play at the same time. :)


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[keg in kc]

What are the odds that Reid told his team to score a touchdown on the first play of camp to get the crowd all frenzied up?

BOOM!! CONSPIRACY!!No way. We're going to see tons of gameplanning this season for bombs to our 5'7, 4.6 speed #4 receiver.

[Bowser]

No way. We're going to see tons of gameplanning this season for bombs to our 5'7, 4.6 speed #4 receiver.

He's just like DeSean Jackson, only nowhere as good.

Opponents will never see it coming.

[ptlyon]

How could I have missed the first fluff piece from TC? :sulk:

[keg in kc]

He's just like DeSean Jackson, only nowhere as good.

Opponents will never see it coming.Well, we do play the Raiders twice, so it might work.

[splatbass]

You have to love niners fans telling everybody how to be a fan.

He is 100% spot on about the negative people around here.

[splatbass]

I hope the Niners go through what the Chiefs have gone through since 1994.

THEN you can talk to me about this bullshit. And no, the Erickson/Nolan/Singletary years DON'T count. That shit was over within 5 years. They're a tiny slump you guys suffered on a path of consistent wins and championships.

Get that shit the **** out of here.

I went though it here for 40 freaking years, and I'm not a negative person like some of you. Some of you need to learn to man up.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Boo-fucking-hoo about the "negativity" around this place. If you don't like it, fucking leave.

There are WAY more homers on this forum than there are negative folks. And the negative folks have every fucking reason to be negative. This organization has gone to shit recently. An offseason doesn't change that. Sorry that these folks don't shit rainbows and ice cream over everything Chief.

They have the right to pick apart Alex Smith's game and show he's a uber-cautious game manager who will rack up stats via the YAC dink-and-dunk method.

Homers have the right to think he's going to become something he's never been at age 30, just because he now wears a helmet with an arrowhead on it.

As much as you all hate to admit it, the "negative" folks have been pretty close to spot-on in their takes since 2009. Meanwhile, the same people say 10-6 every year, say we're going to have a Top 5 defense, and whiff every year.

So be it. It's a message board. That's what we're all here for.

[SAUTO]

Boo-fucking-hoo about the "negativity" around this place. If you don't like it, fucking leave.

There are WAY more homers on this forum than there are negative folks. And the negative folks have every fucking reason to be negative. This organization has gone to shit recently. An offseason doesn't change that.

They have the right to pick apart Alex Smith's game and show he's a uber-cautious game manager who will rack up stats via the YAC dink-and-dunk method.

Homers have the right to think he's going to become something he's never been at age 30, just because he now wears a helmet with an arrowhead on it.

As much as you all hate to admit it, the "negative" folks have been pretty close to spot-on in their takes since 2009. Meanwhile, the same people say 10-6 every year, say we're going to have a Top 5 defense, and whiff every year.

So be it. It's a message board. That's what we're all here for. this.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

this.
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When the fuck did we become all buddy-buddy?

LMAO

Seriously, hoping to buy you a beer if I can get up there this year.

[Bowser]

Boo-fucking-hoo about the "negativity" around this place. If you don't like it, fucking leave.

There are WAY more homers on this forum than there are negative folks. And the negative folks have every fucking reason to be negative. This organization has gone to shit recently. An offseason doesn't change that. Sorry that these folks don't shit rainbows and ice cream over everything Chief.

They have the right to pick apart Alex Smith's game and show he's a uber-cautious game manager who will rack up stats via the YAC dink-and-dunk method.

Homers have the right to think he's going to become something he's never been at age 30, just because he now wears a helmet with an arrowhead on it.

As much as you all hate to admit it, the "negative" folks have been pretty close to spot-on in their takes since 2009. Meanwhile, the same people say 10-6 every year, say we're going to have a Top 5 defense, and whiff every year.

So be it. It's a message board. That's what we're all here for.

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[Brock]

He is 100% spot on about the negative people around here.

Only according to homers.

[SAUTO]

When the fuck did we become all buddy-buddy?

LMAO

Seriously, hoping to buy you a beer if I can get up there this year.


Its bizarro world lol. I almost feel like I've traded places with Dane. Its comical when these assholes who know nothing about us call ME Mr negative and act as though I hate this team.

I felt the same way about you for a long time and now see where you were coming from.

several of you guys were spot on about the last qb, I'm hoping we are wrong about this one. At this point its looking eerily similar...
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[O.city]

Wins games=negativity stops.

When you've been the worst or one of the worst franchises in sports, people are going to be negative until they win games.

[Chiefshrink]

There's that word again. "Potential."

Why do we always have to use that word when we acquire 28-year old starting QBs? Shouldn't they have already reached their potential by the time we get them?

I'll bet Drew Brees didn't go to the Saints and talk about "potential." I'll bet Peyton Manning didn't go to the Donks and say "potential."

Well in all fairness, those 2 had Tom Moore/ Sean Payton to take their game to the level that maximizes their potential. Look at what Smith had his first 7 seasons. Now with that said, I'm not expecting great things from Smith but at least when he finally got 'real help' from a real QB coach in Harbs, he did improve. Now whether he can get to 'significantly improved' with Reid remains to be seen. But at least he won't be an embarrassment to the fans/org for now.

[SAUTO]

Wins games=negativity stops.

When you've been the worst or one of the worst franchises in sports, people are going to be negative until they win games. exactly. And when the first steps of the new regime are the same as the last couple of FAILED regimes it doesn't lead to much to feel positive about...
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[Easy 6]

Wins games=negativity stops.

When you've been the worst or one of the worst franchises in sports, people are going to be negative until they win games.

Truth, the bitchers have every right to it until things drastically change.

[O.city]

I do like that this regime hasn't come in saying the whole "our way is the right way, the only way, blah blah" like pioli did.


Just come in, do your job and show results on the field.

[keg in kc]

The "negative" people might better be labeled the "skeptical" people. Because not having blind faith that things will be magically better just because does not make one negative.

[RunKC]

exactly. And when the first steps of the new regime are the same as the last couple of FAILED regimes it doesn't lead to much to feel positive about...
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I tend to think that that option was better than repeating the 1st round QB bust trend we had in the 83 draft.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Its bizarro world lol. I almost feel like I've traded places with Dane. Its comical when these assholes who know nothing about us call ME Mr negative and act as though I hate this team.

I felt the same way about you for a long time and now see where you were coming from.

several of you guys were spot on about the last qb, I'm hoping we are wrong about this one. At this point its looking eerily similar...
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Do you have tickets this year? I'm going to try to get to the opener. If so, let's make sure to catch up.

[keg in kc]

I tend to think that that option was better than repeating the 1st round QB bust trend we had in the 83 draft.Trend? Don't you have to do something more than once for it to be a trend?

[RunKC]

I'm just happy we have ownership that is smart. No more of this "we're doing it my way because it worked with the Patriots."

Andy Reid could easily say "fuck you guys my way got me 5 NFC Championships and a SB appearance" but instead he's playing to the players strengths and even using new concepts to try to get better (Ault's wisdom).

About damn time this stupid fucking egotistical bullshit that we saw the last 4 years is put to rest.

[RunKC]

Trend? Don't you have to do something more than once for it to be a trend?

Drafting a first round QB this year and failing would have made it a trend.

[Sandy Vagina]

The "negative" people might better be labeled the "skeptical" people. Because not having blind faith that things will be magically better just because does not make one negative.

You seem to want to label the defeated, doomsayers as "skeptical"... and then want to label the remotely positive or open-minded people as "blind faith homers."

so let's be honest...

There are a vocal dozen that have already mailed in the season as failed.
(you really want to call them merely "skeptical?")

There are others who have many doubts, but are excited and hopeful.
(thinking all is not sunshine, yet they could very well be a 6-8 team and improve further the next season)

There are those with some doubts, but overall, expect a good season.
(thinking a 9 or 10 win season, and a good start to building a long-ish-term playoff contender)

There are exactly ZERO people that have complete blind faith and are expecting a SB ring this season.
(and if there are, then point them out)

[keg in kc]

Drafting a first round QB this year and failing would have made it a trend.That's so inane I can't even think of an appropriately snide response.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm just happy we have ownership that is smart. No more of this "we're doing it my way because it worked with the Patriots."

Andy Reid could easily say "fuck you guys my way got me 5 NFC Championships and a SB appearance" but instead he's playing to the players strengths and even using new concepts to try to get better (Ault's wisdom).

About damn time this stupid fucking egotistical bullshit that we saw the last 4 years is put to rest.

I have a feeling Andy Reid's ego told him he could win with Alex Smith, and it's going to kill us in the end.

No matter what they say there is always tremendous ego in anyone holding a position of power in the NFL.

However, it is nice these guys don't seem to be total psychotic dicks like Pioli.

[RunKC]

That's so inane I can't even think of an appropriately snide response.

That's how I feel when people say we should have drafted a 2nd round QB first overall.

[keg in kc]

Bunch of bullshitWhy are you even here?

[Messier]

exactly. And when the first steps of the new regime are the same as the last couple of FAILED regimes it doesn't lead to much to feel positive about...
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While I completely agree with O.City that pessimism is totally warranted based on what this team has done in recent years, I can't get on board with the few here that think the offseason moves should inspire more pessimism. Seemingly all based on the flawed logic that taking a QB first overall was the only way to generate any confidence.

[Marcellus]

Do you have tickets this year? I'm going to try to get to the opener. If so, let's make sure to catch up.

I seem to remember you saying you weren't spending another dime on this franchise until they turned things around.

Is that off base?

[Chief Roundup]

The "negative" people might better be labeled the "skeptical" people. Because not having blind faith that things will be magically better just because does not make one negative.

There might be a very few that could be labeled as skeptical.
There are a several that think everything has sucked and are very negative just because we didn't draft a QB and did draft OL.
There are several that are negative because that is what they like to do..whether they realize it or not. There are also those that are negative because we have been so bad for so long and been misled by the Chiefs organization.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

BIG ARM!!!!

Booger fucking sucks.

Corn Boy fucking sucks.

Axl, well, is off to his usual and PREDICTED results.

Do I need to break out the MS Paint and/or flow-charts? Or can I simply say:

HE IS THE ONLY QB ON THE ROSTER WITH ANY FUTURE POTENTIAL. PERIOD.

NOW DEAL WITH IT.:D

[O.city]

I don't think those here are upset with not taking a qb at 1, there wasn't one worth it. It's that based in what we've heard they're potentially going to tie themselves to another qb who they ( the pessimistic here) view as someone who another team thought wasn't good enough.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I seem to remember you saying you weren't spending another dime on this franchise until they turned things around.

Is that off base?

One, my wife has several clients in the KC area that has offered her tickets. I'm not paying for shit.

Second, even if I needed to pay for tickets, I would do so to see some guys I haven't seen in a long time, as well as meet some folks I've been wanting to meet. Football is secondary.

Third, do you know the exact date you became such a whining cunt?

[SAUTO]

Do you have tickets this year? I'm going to try to get to the opener. If so, let's make sure to catch up.

That's the one I'm thinking of going to. For sure. Love to have a couple drinks
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[Marcellus]

I don't think those here are upset with not taking a qb at 1, there wasn't one worth it. It's that based in what we've heard they're potentially going to tie themselves to another qb who they ( the pessimistic here) view as someone who another team thought wasn't good enough.

Alex Smith is the catalyst for all the negativity on this board.

People who loved the Reid and Dorsey hires now do not support a single decision they have made yet, even in the absence of evidence that they made a bad decision.

[Sandy Vagina]

Why are you even here?

Until preseason games start, I am bored and killing time. I am also immune to the negativity and insults... and this place is active and amusing to me.

[SAUTO]

I tend to think that that option was better than repeating the 1st round QB bust trend we had in the 83 draft.

Trend from 30 years ago?
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[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't think those here are upset with not taking a qb at 1, there wasn't one worth it. It's that based in what we've heard they're potentially going to tie themselves to another qb who they ( the pessimistic here) view as someone who another team thought wasn't good enough.

Exactly.

They didn't like the QB's in the draft? Fine.

But if that's the case, and it were up to me, I would have saved those two early 2nd round picks and picked up another stopgap and started building for the future.

Instead, they chose to overspend on a guy that an elite team has been trying to get rid of for three years. They've made nothing but "win now" moves. You're goddamn right I expect them to win now.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

One, my wife has several clients in the KC area that has offered her tickets. I'm not paying for shit.

Second, even if I needed to pay for tickets, I would do so to see some guys I haven't seen in a long time, as well as meet some folks I've been wanting to meet. Football is secondary.

Third, do you know the exact date you became such a whining cunt?

I WOULD say, that I can't wait to see Marcellus humbled again this year for his usual dipshittery, but he just climbs right back up on that pink cloud every fucking time.

[OnTheWarpath15]

That's the one I'm thinking of going to. For sure. Love to have a couple drinks
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I thought you had season tickets?

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith is the catalyst for all the negativity on this board.

People who loved the Reid and Dorsey hires now do not support a single decision they have made yet, even in the absence of evidence that they made a bad decision.

This is hyperbole.

I'm on board with most of the moves they've made.

Alex Smith, Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson were shitty moves, though.

[SAUTO]

You seem to want to label the defeated, doomsayers as "skeptical"... and then want to label the remotely positive or open-minded people as "blind faith homers."

so let's be honest...

There are a vocal dozen that have already mailed in the season as failed.
(you really want to call them merely "skeptical?")

There are others who have many doubts, but are excited and hopeful.
(thinking all is not sunshine, yet they could very well be a 6-8 team and improve further the next season)

There are those with some doubts, but overall, expect a good season.
(thinking a 9 or 10 win season, and a good start to building a long-ish-term playoff contender)

There are exactly ZERO people that have complete blind faith and are expecting a SB ring this season.
(and if there are, then point them out) link to anyone other then clay labeling the season as failed?
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[RunKC]

I don't think those here are upset with not taking a qb at 1, there wasn't one worth it. It's that based in what we've heard they're potentially going to tie themselves to another qb who they ( the pessimistic here) view as someone who another team thought wasn't good enough.

Give it a few years why they look for a guy of their own/develop. Alex Smith is going to help us get to the playoffs NOW why we are building this thing.

If Alex Smith doesn't play well he will be replaced. We all know Reid isn't like Pioli. He'll try again if he fails with Alex.

[Messier]

I don't think those here are upset with not taking a qb at 1, there wasn't one worth it. It's that based in what we've heard they're potentially going to tie themselves to another qb who they ( the pessimistic here) view as someone who another team thought wasn't good enough.

We'll see if they tie themselves to Smith. They haven't yet.

[Marcellus]

One, my wife has several clients in the KC area that has offered her tickets. I'm not paying for shit.

Second, even if I needed to pay for tickets, I would do so to see some guys I haven't seen in a long time, as well as meet some folks I've been wanting to meet. Football is secondary.

Third, do you know the exact date you became such a whining ****?

Look you said you weren't spending a dime on this franchise not me. Me asking why you are changing your mind does not make me a whiner.

Your approach to this team for a long time has been border line hatred, dont call me out as a complainer.

Ive been here almost 10 years now through a lot of shit with the Chiefs and it has NEVER in the last 10 years been this foul here.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We'll see if they tie themselves to Smith. They haven't yet.

Really?

I'd say spending two early R2 picks on the guy is a rather large commitment.

[Sandy Vagina]

link to anyone other then clay labeling the season as failed?
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Other than the people who have posts that I respected, I don't really pay much attention to usernames. Might not be a dozen, to be honest, but there are a handful. Not much point in denying that much.

[SAUTO]

I thought you had season tickets?

not me... Life is too hectic lol
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Look you said you weren't spending a dime on this franchise not me. Me asking why you are changing your mind does not make me a whiner.

Your approach to this team for a long time has been border line hatred, dont call me out as a complainer.

Ive been here almost 10 years now though a lot of shit with the Chiefs and it has NEVER in the last 10 years been this foul here.

We've got ourselves another dimestore psychologist, Sauto.

[keg in kc]

That's how I feel when people say we should have drafted a 2nd round QB first overall.We know what the trend for this franchise at QB is, and it doesn't have anything to do with the draft, either in 1983 or 2013, or any other year. So it's a bit out there to call something a trend when it hasn't happened in more than 20 years, and it's even more nuts to say that doing it for the first time in more than two decades would establish it as one.

(And that's a philosophical comment, it doesn't have anything to do with Geno Smith in particular.)

Eventually people have to stop being afraid.

[OnTheWarpath15]

not me... Life is too hectic lol
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Well, let me know if you end up with seats.

[Marcellus]

link to anyone other then clay labeling the season as failed?
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You cant be serious.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We know what the trend for this franchise at QB is, and it doesn't have anything to do with the draft, either in 1983 or 2013, or any other year. So it's a bit out there to call something a trend when it hasn't happened in more than 20 years, and it's even more nuts to say that doing it for the first time in more than two decades would establish it as one.

(And that's a philosophical comment, it doesn't have anything to do with Geno Smith in particular.)

Eventually people have to stop being afraid.

.

[Messier]

Really?

I'd say spending two early R2 picks on the guy is a rather large commitment.

That's high compensation. What have they committed to Smith?

[O.city]

Give it a few years why they look for a guy of their own/develop. Alex Smith is going to help us get to the playoffs NOW why we are building this thing.

If Alex Smith doesn't play well he will be replaced. We all know Reid isn't like Pioli. He'll try again if he fails with Alex.

Smith will get 2 years for sure. If he has a decent year this year, I'd imagine well see a contract extension.

That's great if he gets us to the playoffs, that's why you make the move and that's what these moves say " we're winning now". That's great, but with that, I'm also expecting to win now.

It can't go both ways.

"Don't be negative, they're trying to win now" " you're setting them up to fail thinking they'll win 10 and make the playoffs"

It's either or.

[SAUTO]

My dad has them. He's petty sick right now so I would expect I'll go to most games this year. Not looking like he will make it to any
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[OnTheWarpath15]

That's high compensation. What have they committed to Smith?

Draft picks are currency. Do you honestly think they'd spend two valuable picks on a guy they aren't committed to?

Not to mention, it likely leaves us without the ammunition to move up for a QB next year in the event they want one.

[OnTheWarpath15]

My dad has them. He's petty sick right now so I would expect I'll go to most games this year. Not looking like he will make it to any
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Damn. Sorry to hear. Like I said, keep in touch.

[SAUTO]

You cant be serious.

Totally. not being happy about the new qb and the compensation given for him don't mean the season is a failed one prior to games being played.
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[O.city]

If they trade what yet did for Smith and move on from him before the second draft pick is even used....it if you think that's going to happen, you're crazy.


Also if you think things are bad here now, let that happen and see how it goes

[Marcellus]

Totally. not being happy about the new qb and the compensation given for him don't mean the season is a failed one prior to gashes being played.
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There are tons of poster who think Alex Smith will never win a PO game in KC, therefore the season and any season he plays is a failure before it starts.

No way you can argue me on that, no way.

[keg in kc]

That's high compensation. What have they committed to Smith?He's an unusual circumstance in that they have him locked for 2 years. Is there really any reason to extend him now? What do you think the odds are that they will next year?

As far as other types of committment go, he was named the starter immediately, he's carrying himself in interviews as the unquestioned starter, and they're making him one of the faces of the franchise. I'd say it's pretty clear that they aren't treating him like a short-term fix.

[SAUTO]

Damn. Sorry to hear. Like I said, keep in touch.

For sure buddy. my daughter has never been and she wants to go to the opener. I think we will try to make it happen. my best friend is a Dallas fan and is dead set on going too.

I would say we will probably be there
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Totally. not being happy about the new qb and the compensation given for him don't mean the season is a failed one prior to gashes being played.
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LMAO

Autocorrect sucks. Gashes.

And even the people he thinks are the most negative, including me have said they figure somewhere between 7-9 wins.

SO GODDAMN NEGATIVE!

[Messier]

Draft picks are currency. Do you honestly think they'd spend two valuable picks on a guy they aren't committed to?

Not to mention, it likely leaves us without the ammunition to move up for a QB next year in the event they want one.

Yes I do. If he underwhelms, I honestly think he won't be here longer that two years. Assuming this is just another SP and Cassell tied at the hip situation is a stretch.

Just to clarify, I think Smith will play well, and probably will get an extension.

[keg in kc]

LMAO

Autocorrect sucks. Gashes.

And even the people he thinks are the most negative, including me have said they figure somewhere between 7-9 wins.

SO GODDAMN NEGATIVE!I've said 8-10 wins. I'm negative.

[SAUTO]

There are tons of poster who think Alex Smith will never win a PO game in KC, therefore the season and any season he plays is a failure before it starts.

No way you can argue me on that, no way.
I'm skeptical he will too, doesn't mean this season is a failure before it starts. I'm excited for the season.

failure or success will be determined when its over.
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[Marcellus]

LMAO

Autocorrect sucks. Gashes.

And even the people he thinks are the most negative, including me have said they figure somewhere between 7-9 wins.

SO GODDAMN NEGATIVE!

So you think 7-9 is a success?

[Marcellus]

I'm skeptical he will too, doesn't mean this season is a failure before it starts. I'm excited for the season.

failure or success will be determined when its over.
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Your attitude does not = many others attitude nor their actions.

[Messier]

He's an unusual circumstance in that they have him locked for 2 years. Is there really any reason to extend him now? What do you think the odds are that they will next year?

As far as other types of committment go, he was named the starter immediately, he's carrying himself in interviews as the unquestioned starter, and they're making him one of the faces of the franchise. I'd say it's pretty clear that they aren't treating him like a short-term fix.

It completely depends on this season. Going 5-11 and throwing as many picks as TDs, ala Cassel, and I don't think there will be an extension.

[SAUTO]

I've said 8-10 wins. I'm negative.

I'm right there with you.
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[Chief Roundup]

Really?

I'd say spending two early R2 picks on the guy is a rather large commitment.

Can't be 2 early 2cd round picks. If we suck that bad it will be a 3rd rounder.

[SAUTO]

Your attitude does not = many others attitude nor their actions.

There aren't a dozen guys here calling this season a failure already.
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[Mav]

Perspective.

I don't believe Reid was the right hire, and I don't believe in Smith.

So there isn't any "true" reason for optimism.
Those are both fair. Here is why. If you get Andy Reid, that was coaching during the 5 straight NFCCG appearnaces, you win. If you get the burnt out andy reid of the past 4. Fail. I too, don't know what he sees in Alex Smith. I have no idea what is up with that.
You have to love niners fans telling everybody how to be a fan. You guys are front running pillowbiters, always have been.
Yeah, we have never known struggle. Get the fuck over yourself......
I still find opposing fans spending so much time on a board to be REALLY creepy
Its a message board. Its free to anyone. What you think on the niners boards there aren't fans of other teams? Who gives a shit. This board is always busy, and a lot of people here are pretty cool to talk to, and bullshit with. Who gives a damn what fan we are of. At least we have the decency to talk about the team of the board we are on.
I hope the Niners go through what the Chiefs have gone through since 1994.

THEN you can talk to me about this bullshit. And no, the Erickson/Nolan/Singletary years DON'T count. That shit was over within 5 years. They're a tiny slump you guys suffered on a path of consistent wins and championships.

Get that shit the **** out of here.
Dude, I think you underestimate the amount of garbage we watched. Watching MOOCH get fired for Dennis Erickson, that was one thing, but to have your owner basically take a shit on Bill Walsh, was another.
This above all is what I hate about trading for another team's qb. The goddamn moron fans who show up to tell us how great he is. We still haven't gotten rid of the shithead patriots fans who were here telling us the same ****ing thing 4 years ago.
What 49er fan said he was great? Name one...It certainly wasn't me, did we list his positives? Sure, I also named his negatives, and been very frank with it. Not my problem that you cant comprehend things. Alex Smith is a great leader, and an average football player. IM REALLY TALKING HIM UP......at least us morons, can comprehend.
Even if he was great, I don't get why you would follow a player to another team and post on their messgae boards. Are there Chiefs fans posting on Viking boards because of Jared Allen? I honestly don't get it.
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Again, does it matter? when the alex smith trade was announced, there was a link to this board posted under a thread of go here to make fun of the Chiefs. There are respectable fans, who didn't like the way Alex Smith got treated, and decided to go to that board, hoping to have some football talk about a guy they have watched for almost a decade. I personally didn't realize that there were so many cry baby whiny bitches here that couldn't have football talk, and only knew what someone else had said, and didn't really have any actual information on the guy. that's the only reason I came. And again. Its a message board, free to anyone. Hell, I personally was telling the Admin of the 49ers board who had signed up there from here, to get them activated. Like I gave a crap?
I have a feeling Andy Reid's ego told him he could win with Alex Smith, and it's going to kill us in the end.

No matter what they say there is always tremendous ego in anyone holding a position of power in the NFL.

However, it is nice these guys don't seem to be total psychotic dicks like Pioli.
I told you from the beginning. Alex Smith was here to be a place holder, and to mold a young qb to take over for him if he fails. That guy appears to be Tyler Bray. He has all the skills. He just needs to learn mechanics, and work ethic, both of which alex smith is really polished on.
Why are you even here?
Who cares.
One, my wife has several clients in the KC area that has offered her tickets. I'm not paying for shit.

Second, even if I needed to pay for tickets, I would do so to see some guys I haven't seen in a long time, as well as meet some folks I've been wanting to meet. Football is secondary.

Third, do you know the exact date you became such a whining ****?
Probably about the same time you because a menstruating whiny asshole.
Exactly.

They didn't like the QB's in the draft? Fine.

But if that's the case, and it were up to me, I would have saved those two early 2nd round picks and picked up another stopgap and started building for the future.

Instead, they chose to overspend on a guy that an elite team has been trying to get rid of for three years. They've made nothing but "win now" moves. You're goddamn right I expect them to win now.

If they are in win mode now, and have a developemental qb right now, in Alex Smith, and can do both. The qb of development, being Bray, then why only choose one? Why not both. The 49ers did it......

[Mav]

There aren't a dozen guys here calling this season a failure already.
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No, just the same select few saying it over and over again.....

[keg in kc]

I'm skeptical as to whether they could consistently win at a championship game level (conference or league) with him, but I think he could ride the team to wild card or division wins if everything is built strongly enough around him. That said, I don't expect we'd ever see anything like last offseason's performance by Flacco out of him, though.

[Sandy Vagina]

There aren't a dozen guys here calling this season a failure already.
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That's fine. I could be wrong on that. Maybe it just feels that way, but no problem. I can accept that the dozen could be many less. Maybe the repetitious negativity creates that illusion.

[Marcellus]

There aren't a dozen guys here calling this season a failure already.
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I tell you what, I will remove any preconceived attitudes and start from scratch and see if I can tell the difference.

[O.city]

If we are in win now mode, awesome I'm ready to win now.

But if that's the case, if you go win 6 games, it was a huge failure.

[SAUTO]

So you think 7-9 is a success?

After going 2-14?

It wood be a success and a failure.

There ultimate goal of any team is a championship. So while out would be a more successful year than the last one it would ultimately also be a failure
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[SAUTO]

That's fine. I could be wrong on that. Maybe it just feels that way, but no problem. I can accept that the dozen could be many less. Maybe the repetitious negativity creates that illusion.
Maybe its your attitude that makes people come off that way
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[O.city]

Less than .500 this year is a failure IMO.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yes I do. If he underwhelms, I honestly think he won't be here longer that two years. Assuming this is just another SP and Cassell tied at the hip situation is a stretch.

Just to clarify, I think Smith will play well, and probably will get an extension.

Two years is a goddamn eternity. That's two years of Charles, Flowers, Bowe, Hali and DJ we're wasting. That's two years we're not developing a potential franchise QB.

[Mav]

If we are in win now mode, awesome I'm ready to win now.

But if that's the case, if you go win 6 games, it was a huge failure.

I don't think there is a person in the Chiefs organization from Clark hunt, to the ball boy, that thinks this is a 6 win team. I don't think there is a person in the Chiefs organization that would see this season as anything but a failure if they didn't make the playoffs.

Guaranteed.

[SAUTO]

No, just the same select few saying it over and over again.....

Who besides clay has called this season a failure already?
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[OnTheWarpath15]

So you think 7-9 is a success?

I don't, but I believe an overwhelming majority of the fanbase would be accepting of it.

[Mav]

Two years is a goddamn eternity. That's two years of Charles, Flowers, Bowe, Hali and DJ we're wasting. That's two years we're not developing a potential franchise QB.

That's you saying that, without knowing what Reids thoughts, and plans are for Bray.....And yes, Bray has the physical talent to be a franchise qb.

[O.city]

I'm just saying there's no leeway or excuses or slack after this year if that's the case. Make the moves we made this offseason=no "learning" year.

[keg in kc]

It completely depends on this season. Going 5-11 and throwing as many picks as TDs, ala Cassel, and I don't think there will be an extension.I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.

[Mav]

Who besides clay has called this season a failure already?
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Id have to go dig through the trade thread of when it was announced. Off the top of my head, I don't know. I spend so much time arguing with Clay lol.....

[Marcellus]

I'm just saying there's no leeway or excuses or slack after this year if that's the case. Make the moves we made this offseason=no "learning" year.

I 100% agree with this and have said so all along.

[Sandy Vagina]

Maybe its your attitude that makes people come off that way
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I really doubt that. I have been doing the forum thing for a long time now. I treat people with respect until they show me they no longer deserve it. I like things civil.. but no, I can throw dirt as well, if people can't be respectful.

Much like Mav stated, I was pretty shocked that people were so nasty and miserable here. Whenever a fan from another team came over to talk up a player that was traded to SF? All the SF fans and I had very cool discussions with them. That was certainly not the case here... but oooooh well.

[Mav]

I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.

I don't think Alex Smith wanted the extension, as much so as it was the Chiefs not wanting to give one to him. He has an out clause after this year that basically means the Chiefs could pay him nothing and move on if need be. I think Alex Smith, also wanted to be able to choose where he wanted to be, and he wasn't able to do that. I think its very business smart, on both parts.

[Coogs]

Exactly.

They didn't like the QB's in the draft? Fine.

But if that's the case, and it were up to me, I would have saved those two early 2nd round picks and picked up another stopgap and started building for the future.

Instead, they chose to overspend on a guy that an elite team has been trying to get rid of for three years. They've made nothing but "win now" moves. You're goddamn right I expect them to win now.

The picks were not two early 2nds. One was. This years.

Next years is only a 2nd roundr if we are 8-8... which would put us at mid to late 2nd, depending just how far over 8 wins we might happen to go.

7-9 or worse is a 3rd rounder. So mid to high 3rd rounder depending how many wins less than 7.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm skeptical as to whether they could consistently win at a championship game level (conference or league) with him, but I think he could ride the team to wild card or division wins if everything is built strongly enough around him. That said, I don't expect we'd ever see anything like last offseason's performance by Flacco out of him, though.

Pretty damn close to my thoughts.

He might be able to win a playoff game with an elite defense, or just a ridiculously great defensive effort in one game.

He's not going to put a team on his back and carry them through the playoffs.

Alex Smith is like stopping at $10,000 on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. The money is nice, but it's not life-changing.

[SAUTO]

Id have to go dig through the trade thread of when it was announced. Off the top of my head, I don't know. I spend so much time arguing with Clay lol.....
Who gives a fuck about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

That's you saying that, without knowing what Reids thoughts, and plans are for Bray.....And yes, Bray has the physical talent to be a franchise qb.

People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

[ping2000]

I'm just glad retard Romeo is gone. Anything beyond that is gravy. Could not take one more press conference from that idiot. Hurt the brain.


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[Mav]

Pretty damn close to my thoughts.

He might be able to win a playoff game with an elite defense, or just a ridiculously great defensive effort in one game.

He's not going to put a team on his back and carry them through the playoffs.

Alex Smith is like stopping at $10,000 on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. The money is nice, but it's not life-changing.

That honestly, is my biggest problem here. You guys don't know shit about what Alex Smith can and cant do. This will be the first year that he will be given complete confidence, and control by his head coach. Every single head coach he has had, has been a run first coach. Hell, Jim Harbaugh, still ran the ball more than he threw with Kaepernick. And I keep hearing people say, if Alex is asked to throw more, hes going to fail. It depends on the throws. If he is still making the short throws that lead to Bowe, or Avery or a tight end, getting a first down, or making their own yards, why would he fail? He has proven to be very VERY good at that. You don't have the personnel to chuck it up all the time. he doesn't have Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin to throw to.

That's why I have said over and over, I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but using anything from San Francisco, as a barometer of how he is going to do here, is stupid, and uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit.

[keg in kc]

People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?That's a holdover of the Carl Peterson mentality. It's not safe to draft a QB high, but it is safe to pick one up in the mid to late rounds, or even better as a UDFA because if he fails, well, you didn't lose anything but cash.

You only draft "safe" positions early. Like tackles. Insert gleeful draft gif here.

[Coogs]

People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

This one has baffled me for quite some time. Hell, we have 3 or 4 posters reserving a spot in Canton for Bray already.

[Mav]

Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......

[SAUTO]

I really doubt that. I have been doing the forum thing for a long time now. I treat people with respect until they show me they no longer deserve it. I like things civil.. but no, I can throw dirt as well, if people can't be respectful.

Much like Mav stated, I was pretty shocked that people were so nasty and miserable here. Whenever a fan from another team came over to talk up a player that was traded to SF? All the SF fans and I had very cool discussions with them. That was certainly not the case here... but oooooh well. did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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[OnTheWarpath15]

That's a holdover of the Carl Peterson mentality. It's not safe to draft a QB high, but it is safe to pick one up in the mid to late rounds, or even better as a UDFA because if he fails, well, you didn't lose anything but cash.

You only draft "safe" positions early. Like tackles. Insert gleeful draft gif here.

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/CHIEFS-FANS.gif

[SAUTO]

oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......

I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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[Messier]

I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.

I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...

[Mav]

People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

Do you understand the term Developmental? Guess what, Tony Romo was undrafted as well. Matt Flynn was a 7th rounder, hes a starter today. Kurt Warner was undrafted, and developed. Is it the most logical, and successful way to build your franchise? No, but there is also overreaching, and ending up with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Matt Leinart, Vince Young.

There is a reason they wanted Tyler Bray. Bray, was not undrafted because of skill set. He was undrafted because of character concerns, and body of work. The skill set, is all there.

I don't personally care what you accept. You stated that you would of been okay with a stop gap, and a developmental qb. I gave you both. The stop gap, Alex Smith, and the developmental in Tyler bray. And now that's not good enough. You figure it out.

[Chief Roundup]

Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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You have said other than Clay. So I am going to use Clay as a qualifier. Clay seems to think we can win 5-7 games.
There are a lot of people in http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=274701&page=11&highlight=Expectations+for+this+season that think even worse.
Without doing a lot of searching I can tell you Sweet Daddy Hate is right there with GoChiefs. Not to mention those in the thread above.

[Mav]

I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...

Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?

[Marcellus]

I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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What is the difference between not thinking Alex Smith will never ever win a PO game as a Chief and believing the season is a failure?

Sorry I dont see the difference.

Now if you think its a possibility, then you have hope.

Many people do not believe it is remotely possible.

I think its a possibility this year.

Granted we haven't even seen a preseason game yet.

[Mav]

did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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No niners fan came here with that. Now, maybe pats fans did, but no niners fans came here and preached how great he was going to be. Oh, and do people keep missing the CHIEFS part of his user name?

[SAUTO]

That honestly, is my biggest problem here. You guys don't know shit about what Alex Smith can and cant do. This will be the first year that he will be given complete confidence, and control by his head coach. Every single head coach he has had, has been a run first coach. Hell, Jim Harbaugh, still ran the ball more than he threw with Kaepernick. And I keep hearing people say, if Alex is asked to throw more, hes going to fail. It depends on the throws. If he is still making the short throws that lead to Bowe, or Avery or a tight end, getting a first down, or making their own yards, why would he fail? He has proven to be very VERY good at that. You don't have the personnel to chuck it up all the time. he doesn't have Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin to throw to.

That's why I have said over and over, I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but using anything from San Francisco, as a barometer of how he is going to do here, is stupid, and uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit.
Using what he, had actually done in his career is uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit?

No its facts. Thinking it will be any different would be hypothetical dude.

Facts are facts and by almost any measure Alex Smith is on par with Cassel in terms of production. He averages less than 200 yards a game.

He's been in the league eight years, make all the excuses you want but he's been middle of the pack.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?

LMAO

I'm not the dumbass making excuse after excuse for a guy who has been downright terrible his 7 years in the league.

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to ignore the first 5 and just focus the the last two - which by sheer coincidence are the same years his organization was dying to get rid of him.

Yawn. Pats trolls. Niner trolls. Rinse. Repeat.

[keg in kc]

I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.I think he's extended after this season regardless, so I'm closer to being in the other camp. I don't think he'll be on a short leash. I'd be surprised if he's here less than 5 years, and I don't think there's any way he'll be here less than 3.

[Chief Roundup]

People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

LMAO

NO

[SAUTO]

No niners fan came here with that. Now, maybe pats fans did, but no niners fans came here and preached how great he was going to be. Oh, and do people keep missing the CHIEFS part of his user name?
He's not a chiefs fan. And yes the niners fans came here telling us how to feel about the trade
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[OnTheWarpath15]

Using what he, had actually done in his career is uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit?

No its facts. Thinking it will be any different would be hypothetical dude.

Facts are facts and by almost any measure Alex Smith is on par with Cassel in terms of production. He averages less than 200 yards a game.

He's been in the league eight years, make all the excuses you want but he's been middle of the pack.
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I've never broken 80 in my life on the golf course, but I'm fully expecting to earn my Tour Card by the end of the year.

[Mav]

Using what he, had actually done in his career is uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit?

No its facts. Thinking it will be any different would be hypothetical dude.

Facts are facts and by almost any measure Alex Smith is on par with Cassel in terms of production. He averages less than 200 yards a game.

He's been in the league eight years, make all the excuses you want but he's been middle of the pack.
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I never said he wasn't. But it is awful hard to put up stellar numbers, when you hand the ball off more than you throw.

A prime example of that. Troy Aikman. Hes a hall of fame qb, who spent his career, handing off to Emmitt Smith. Now, obviously, I am not saying Alex Smith is as good as Troy, hes not, troy might of been the most accurate passer in the history of the NFL. What I am saying is, that your scheme, and coaching, sometimes dictates your stats. And it is why, I have never said that Alex is going to succeed or fail here, because I don't know. I don't know if he can handle passing more, I also don't know if Andy Reid will use him that way. So yes. To speculate on how playing for a different style of coach, and assuming that the results are going to be the same. Is useless.


COMPLETELY, USELESS.

[GoChargers]

You have to love niners fans telling everybody how to be a fan. You guys are front running pillowbiters, always have been.

This. And it's pretty funny seeing the same fanbase who used to chant for David Carr to be put in the game now start lecturing you guys for not licking Alice Smiff's ballsack.

[keg in kc]

Chaise Danielson, QBoTF!!!

[Mav]

He's not a chiefs fan. And yes the niners fans came here telling us how to feel about the trade
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Who? Again, you asked me who said this season was a failure? Who told you HOW to feel.

Or did they say, Alex is a nice guy, wont turn the ball over, will work hard.

Isnt great, but he isn't bad. Those sound like way more of the things that 49ers fans said. Myself included, and im the biggest fucking alex smith homer in the world. I already ordered my Alex Smith Chiefs jersey.

And I wont tell you he is a franchise saving qb, and is at best a stop gap.

no one ever said alex smith was great, and that you should be thrilled to have him.

[keg in kc]

I've never broken 80 in my life on the golf course, but I'm fully expecting to earn my Tour Card by the end of the year.I hope you have a great new swing coach, because that's all it takes.

[Mav]

This. And it's pretty funny seeing the same fanbase who used to chant for David Carr to be put in the game now start lecturing you guys for not licking Alice Smiff's ballsack.

I wasn't part of that crowd......

[OnTheWarpath15]

This. And it's pretty funny seeing the same fanbase who used to chant for David Carr to be put in the game now start lecturing you guys for not licking Alice Smiff's ballsack.

LMAO

[SAUTO]

What is the difference between not thinking Alex Smith will never ever win a PO game as a Chief and believing the season is a failure?

Sorry I dont see the difference.

Now if you think its a possibility, then you have hope.

Many people do not believe it is remotely possible.

I think its a possibility this year.

Granted we haven't even seen a preseason game yet.
Thinking he won't win a playoff game isn't calling the season a failure already. its being realistic. He won one in San Francisco with a really good team. In eight years. One.

so if you think we can win a playoff game this season do you call this season a success already? Its the same thing.
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[GoChargers]

No, but there is also overreaching, and ending up with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Matt Leinart, Vince Young.

LOL at not including Alice Smiff being picked over Aaron Rodgers as an example of overreaching.

[SAUTO]

I've never broken 80 in my life on the golf course, but I'm fully expecting to earn my Tour Card by the end of the year.

I've only hit a golf ball once but I'm going to be right there with you.
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[Mav]

LMAO

I'm not the dumbass making excuse after excuse for a guy who has been downright terrible his 7 years in the league.

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to ignore the first 5 and just focus the the last two - which by sheer coincidence are the same years his organization was dying to get rid of him.

Yawn. Pats trolls. Niner trolls. Rinse. Repeat.

uh, dying to get rid of him? Jim Harbaugh gave him his playbook, without a contract with the team, to teach it to the rest of the team.

Again, your lies don't work here junior. Just like I don't try to tell you about your Chiefs, you sure as hell will never be able to tell a lie about my niners. Ill call your punk ass on it every time.

[DeezNutz]

I've never broken 80 in my life on the golf course, but I'm fully expecting to earn my Tour Card by the end of the year.

Did you try building the line first?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I hope you have a great new swing coach, because that's all it takes.

Yep. I'm fully expecting to start driving the ball 325 yards now that my coach has complete confidence in me, and has given me complete control.

My old coach told me I should only drive the ball 250. Same with the coach before that. And the coach before that.

Yep, I'm sure coaching has been the problem.

See you at Q-School!

[SAUTO]

Who? Again, you asked me who said this season was a failure? Who told you HOW to feel.

Or did they say, Alex is a nice guy, wont turn the ball over, will work hard.

Isnt great, but he isn't bad. Those sound like way more of the things that 49ers fans said. Myself included, and im the biggest fucking alex smith homer in the world. I already ordered my Alex Smith Chiefs jersey.

And I wont tell you he is a franchise saving qb, and is at best a stop gap.

no one ever said alex smith was great, and that you should be thrilled to have him.
Bullshit. All of this.

Mac is here telling us how to feel right now. Guarantee I could find posts under one of your multiple user names doing the same
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[Marcellus]

I've never broken 80 in my life on the golf course, but I'm fully expecting to earn my Tour Card by the end of the year.

That's a fucking ridiculous comparison.

Do you expect you will never get better at golf even with better instruction and more time on the course?

[keg in kc]

How about not overreaching and ending up with Eric Fisher and Dontari Poe and Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey and Ryan Sims and John Tait and Victor Riley and Trezelle Jenkins.

We have quite the collection of first round linemen. The true key to winning!

[Sandy Vagina]

Who? Again, you asked me who said this season was a failure? Who told you HOW to feel.

Or did they say, Alex is a nice guy, wont turn the ball over, will work hard.

Isnt great, but he isn't bad. Those sound like way more of the things that 49ers fans said. Myself included, and im the biggest ****ing alex smith homer in the world. I already ordered my Alex Smith Chiefs jersey.

And I wont tell you he is a franchise saving qb, and is at best a stop gap.

no one ever said alex smith was great, and that you should be thrilled to have him.


Well this much isn't accurate. You are definitely not the biggest Alex homer in the world if this is your ceiling for him. I think he's better than you give credit for... which is not to say that I think he is elite or that KC is destined to be awesome with him.. but I clearly think he is better than you do... so I hold the torch! :p

[Mav]

LOL at not including Alice Smiff being picked over Aaron Rodgers as an example of overreaching.

Only a dumbass thinks that way.

Here is why. One, the 49ers were being cheap to the point of no return. That is the major reason why Alex was picked over Aaron. Second, Aaron Rodgers was said to be more strong headed than Alex Smith, and Nolan wanted a yes man. That's why Alex Smith was drafted.

Lastly, no one wants to hear from a Chargers fan, on gaffes about qbs. You pissed away drew brees, and you had Eli Manning, and his daddy, embarrass you in front of the entire country saying they didn't want to play for your shitty franchise. You have no room to talk.

And I think its hilarious, that a Chargers turd, is welcomed here, but 49ers fans aren't wanted.

[Mav]

Bullshit. All of this.

Mac is here telling us how to feel right now. Guarantee I could find posts under one of your multiple user names doing the same
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Oh, so now we are going back to that. Cool. Clearly, I have won. Find facts. Find any account, you think was me, and prove it. You cant, you are full of shit.

[SAUTO]

uh, dying to get rid of him? Jim Harbaugh gave him his playbook, without a contract with the team, to teach it to the rest of the team.

Again, your lies don't work here junior. Just like I don't try to tell you about your Chiefs, you sure as hell will never be able to tell a lie about my niners. Ill call your punk ass on it every time. the let him get to free agency.

Do you understand what that means?

Can you name another starting qb that got to free agency lately? One that had just win a playoff games few months prior and was in what should be three prime of his career?


They also went after Manning. Drafted kapernick. What more do you want?
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[Mav]

Yep. I'm fully expecting to start driving the ball 325 yards now that my coach has complete confidence in me, and has given me complete control.

My old coach told me I should only drive the ball 250. Same with the coach before that. And the coach before that.

Yep, I'm sure coaching has been the problem.

See you at Q-School!

This is where you are showing your weakness.

Just because they said that Alex Smith will throw more under andy reid.

No one once said that he will be throwing deep all the time.

[Marcellus]

How about not overreaching and ending up with Eric Fisher and Dontari Poe and Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey and Ryan Sims and John Tait and Victor Riley and Trezelle Jenkins.

We have quite the collection of first round linemen. The true key to winning!

Keg only 1 of those players have anything to do with this FO and the fact is Fisher wasn't a reach, he was considered one of the best players in the draft.

Hperbole.

You get irritated at me for calling shit out but damn dude, your whole posts makes my exact point about this place right now.

We are holding Victor Riley against this FO?

I guess we need to credit Reid and Dorsey for drafting DT then.

[GoChargers]

uh, dying to get rid of him? Jim Harbaugh gave him his playbook, without a contract with the team, to teach it to the rest of the team.
The Niners went after Hasselbeck, Peyton, and even Tim fucking Tebow before settling for Alice Smiff. Even then, they had drafted Kaepernick and had no qualms with replacing Smiff with him.

[Marcellus]

Yep. I'm fully expecting to start driving the ball 325 yards now that my coach has complete confidence in me, and has given me complete control.

My old coach told me I should only drive the ball 250. Same with the coach before that. And the coach before that.

Yep, I'm sure coaching has been the problem.

See you at Q-School!

So you are as close to becoming a PGA golfer as Smith is to becoming a SB QB? The gap is comparable?

Nah dude you aren't off the deep end with your attitude.

[SAUTO]

Only a dumbass thinks that way.

Here is why. One, the 49ers were being cheap to the point of no return. That is the major reason why Alex was picked over Aaron. Second, Aaron Rodgers was said to be more strong headed than Alex Smith, and Nolan wanted a yes man. That's why Alex Smith was drafted.

Lastly, no one wants to hear from a Chargers fan, on gaffes about qbs. You pissed away drew brees, and you had Eli Manning, and his daddy, embarrass you in front of the entire country saying they didn't want to play for your shitty franchise. You have no room to talk.

And I think its hilarious, that a Chargers turd, is welcomed here, but 49ers fans aren't wanted.
Cheap? What does strong headed have to go with cheap? Would they have had to pay Rodgers more for being picked at the same spot because he is strong headed? I don't understand.

The chargers fans that are here are welcome because they don't act like you pricks do...
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[Mav]

the let him get to free agency.

Do you understand what that means?

Can you name another starting qb that got to free agency lately? One that had just win a playoff games few months prior and was in what should be three prime of his career?


They also went after Manning. Drafted kapernick. What more do you want?
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See, again, you trying to tell me about the niners, but you shit all over anyone who is not a chiefs fan who tries to tell you about the Chiefs.

First. They had already decided to DRAFT Colin Kaepernick, before Alex Smith was even under contract. Remember the LOCKOUT? Jim Harbaugh, had ONE conversation with Alex when the Lockout was lifted for one day, POST DRAFT, and decided that Alex was going to be his qb, and gave him his playbook. They did NOT go after Manning. Manning, called Jim Harbaugh, and asked him to come out and have a look, they went, came back, and signed Alex Smith. This was all discussed diagnosed. Who WOULDNT be interested in Peyton Manning, if your qb wasn't under contract? That's stupid business. Oh, by the way, Tebow won a playoff game that year, and he was traded away for Peyton. Its Peyton fucking manning.

[keg in kc]

Keg only 1 of those players have anything to do with this FO and the fact is Fisher wasn't a reach, he was considered one of the best players in the draft.

Hperbole.

You get irritated at me for calling shit out but damn dude, your whole posts makes my exact point about this place right now.

We are holding Victor Riley against this FO?

I guess we need to credit Reid and Dorsey for drafting DT then.Save your indignant overreaction, it was a TiC reply to this post: No, but there is also overreaching, and ending up with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Matt Leinart, Vince Young.

[SAUTO]

This is where you are showing your weakness.

Just because they said that Alex Smith will throw more under andy reid.

No one once said that he will be throwing deep all the time. what the fuck did this post have to do with the quoted post?

He said nothing about throwing the ball deep.
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[O.city]

I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.

[Sandy Vagina]

Oh, so now we are going back to that. Cool. Clearly, I have won. Find facts. Find any account, you think was me, and prove it. You cant, you are full of shit.

He has me there, for sure. Not at all worried about admitting it. I stress my opinion about what Chiefs fans should feel and think. All the while knowing that it's just an opinion.

When a fan comes over to a team's forum that trades for their player... and says, "hey guys, you all should be happy to have him! He can do some good things for you."

The mature response should be something like, "well, I have my doubts, but thanks for giving your opinion!"

See? that's what happens in the grown up world of self respect and civility.

Only here? it's more like, "Oh **** off and die in a fiery aids tree, asshole! That player sucks and will always suck and now my team will suck! So take your ass out of here mutha****a!"

... and there you have it. Worlds apart. :)

[Mav]

The Niners went after Hasselbeck, Peyton, and even Tim ****ing Tebow before settling for Alice Smiff. Even then, they had drafted Kaepernick and had no qualms with replacing Smiff with him.

Jim had already scouted Kaep, after being told by Andrew Luck that he needed to check him out. They were together at the Manning passing camp after Lucks Junior season. Roman, and harbs went to see him, now, ill tell you this again, JIM HARBAUGH, HAD NOT EVEN TALKED TO ALEX SMITH AT THIS POINT.

The niners were never after Tim Tebow. gtfoh.....Its peyton manning, and they tried to sign Hasselbeck, BEFORE THEY TALKED WITH ALEX SMITH.

Your lies wont fly here.

[SAUTO]

Oh, so now we are going back to that. Cool. Clearly, I have won. Find facts. Find any account, you think was me, and prove it. You cant, you are full of shit.

No I'm not. Can't search from my phone but I guarantee you have told us we should be happy about this trade. how many names have you had here snoop?
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[Marcellus]

Save your indignant overreaction, it was a TiC reply to this post:

Indignant? Hardly.

And had you quoted him I would have caught it, but fact is it sounds like a typical Keg post anyway.

In context it makes sense though.

[GoChargers]

Only a dumbass thinks that way.

Here is why. One, the 49ers were being cheap to the point of no return. That is the major reason why Alex was picked over Aaron. Second, Aaron Rodgers was said to be more strong headed than Alex Smith, and Nolan wanted a yes man. That's why Alex Smith was drafted.

Lastly, no one wants to hear from a Chargers fan, on gaffes about qbs. You pissed away drew brees, and you had Eli Manning, and his daddy, embarrass you in front of the entire country saying they didn't want to play for your shitty franchise. You have no room to talk.

And I think its hilarious, that a Chargers turd, is welcomed here, but 49ers fans aren't wanted.
Meltdowns and revisionist history won't change the fact that picking Alice over Rodgers is an all-time fuck-up. Picking Alice because he was a "yes man" and "cheap" makes it even MORE of a fuck-up.

The Chargers did not piss away Drew Brees. He was nowhere near as good in San Diego as he is in NOLA and Rivers was waiting in the wings to replace him. His shoulder injury (caused as a result of Marty's stubbornness) was so severe that it was questionable whether he'd ever play again. There was a reason that only two other teams besides the Chargers were even interested when Brees hit the open market in '06.

[Marcellus]

I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.

Or vice versa?

You think you can be optimistic here and not get hammered? Seriously?

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't get why people get so pissed here when others say negative this or that about the Chiefs.

Exactly. I don't agree with the homer mentality, but I sure as hell don't get pissed about it.

If anything, it's fucking comical watching people come up with every excuse possible as to why THIS time, it's going to be different for the team/coach/Alex Smith and why the rest of us are bad fans for not having blind faith.

[Mav]

Cheap? What does strong headed have to go with cheap? Would they have had to pay Rodgers more for being picked at the same spot because he is strong headed? I don't understand.

The chargers fans that are here are welcome because they don't act like you pricks do...
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Alex was willing to sign for cheaper than Aaron Rodgers. Alex Smith was seen as more of a yes man than Aaron Rodgers.

Anyone thinking that if the 49ers would of drafted Aaron Rodgers, over Alex Smith, and that everything would be the same. Is simple, and silly. Had this talk before too. Aaron Rodgers, is very thinned skinned. He was very fortunate to be able to sit behind Brett Favre, and fortunate to land in a Ferrari of an offense in Green bay. He wouldn't of lasted as long in SF as Alex did. He takes everything personally. Alex Smith doesn't have a mean bone in his body, and honestly, that hurts him a lot.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Or vice versa?

You think you can be optimistic here and not get hammered? Seriously?

HUGE difference in getting "hammered" because your opinion is full of holes, and getting pissed at people, turning into a whining cunt.