Vikings blogger to fans: Ponder and Cassel suck, but don't panic

[Fat Elvis]

http://thevikingage.com/2013/07/29/christian-ponder-and-matt-cassel-are-struggling-in-camp/

What is going on with the Vikings’ quarterbacks so far in Mankato? Well I’m glad you asked. By most accounts the top 2 QBs, Christian Ponder and Matt Cassel…let’s just say they aren’t doing so hot. At least according to the reporters covering camp.

What specifically is going wrong with Ponder? Accuracy issues seem to be plaguing him so far. Ponder looks especially bad on his deep balls according to observers. Those pesky mechanical issues seem to be cropping up again for the #1 QB.

Luckily for Ponder, the backup Matt Cassel isn’t doing much better. We know Cassel has had problems turning the ball over in recent years. If his experience thus far at Mankato is any indication, that is still going to be a problem. He is getting picked off on a regular basis.

But here’s the bright side for everyone to focus on. IT’S ONLY FREAKING CAMP. It doesn’t really matter right now if Christian Ponder looks terrible throwing the deep ball or if Matt Cassel is overthrowing receivers and getting picked. There’s a reason you have camp. It’s to smooth those things out before the real games start.

People are naturally going to zero in on these accounts of the quarterbacks’ struggles and use them to reinforce their own pre-existing positions. Those who hate Ponder will hold up his tough couple days at camp as more evidence that he is not the man. And those who support Ponder will simply point out that Cassel hasn’t looked much better. Each side will be equally dopey.

But aren’t I forgetting someone? What about McLeod Bethel-Thompson? Maybe HE’S the answer at quarterback. Hey, you can always find someone to latch onto in camp. MBT has a big arm. He’s always going to look good in non-contact drills. Let’s at least put the pads on before we make up our minds to elevate the #3 QB to the starter position?

Bottom line here: It’s the first weekend of practice. I don’t need to tell everyone it’s way too early to panic. Let’s not bash Ponder on the basis of a couple bad practice sessions. Let’s wait until the season starts THEN bash him. That’s how you do it.

Sorry Vikes. It's time to panic.

[Dave Lane]

Ehhh they could have Alex Smiff. Things can always get worse.

[petegz28]

Cassel is overthrowing picks? Well I guess that's progress from underthrowing picks

[Hammock Parties]

Ahahaha, Matt, you turd.

This is your final defeat.

Your NFL career is OVER bitch, and I personally escorted you to the gates of Hades.

Suck it.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I never wanna hear or see that bastard's name again.

[Hammock Parties]

I never wanna hear or see that bastard's name again.

I could go for a "Cassel loses face in horrible industrial accident" news item.

[WakkaWakka]

ROFL SUCK IT YOU MATT CASSEL HOMERS AND DEFENDERS!!

[JoeyChuckles]

A year ago we had no hope that Cassel and Pioli would ever be gone. We should be thankful for where we are at, even if you don't like Smith and Reid.

[alpha_omega]

Can't we just let it go???

[kcxiv]

Can't we just let it go???

I dont think i can, not this! i have to let alot of shit go in real life. Football Life, he gets my hate for life. lol

[Fat Elvis]

Ahahaha, Matt, you turd.

This is your final defeat.

Your NFL career is OVER bitch, and I personally escorted you to the gates of Hades.

Suck it.

Yeah, it was you. The Chiefs braintrust and Clark Hunt listened to you.:rolleyes:

[GordonGekko]

ROFL SUCK IT YOU MATT CASSEL HOMERS AND DEFENDERS!!

And this would be whom?

Pretty sure after this past season The Matt Cassel Homer ship was empty.

[Dave Lane]

A year ago we had no hope that Cassel and Pioli would ever be gone. We should be thankful for where we are at, even if you don't like Smith and Reid.

I like Reid. I'm worried about his judgement.

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, it was you. The Chiefs braintrust and Clark Hunt listened to you.:rolleyes:

You must have missed the greatest thread in Chiefsplanet history.

I spread the gospel of Matt Cassel's shittiness o'er the internet....months in advance of his actual 2012 season.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

[007]

LMAO Not time to panic. ROFL

[Fat Elvis]

You must have missed the greatest thread in Chiefsplanet history.

I spread the gospel of Matt Cassel's shittiness o'er the internet....months in advance of his actual 2012 season.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

You really ought to travel to St. Joe and introduce yourself to Reid and Dorsey, explaining to them that you are the reason why Matt Cassel is no longer a Chief. You should then explain to them why they made a mistake trading for Alex Smith and that they should just save everyone some time and get rid of him now because you've preordained that he will be gone based on your in depth research. Scream and shout and wave your arms a lot while you are explaining this to them so that your speaking points are really emphasized. I'll even meet you there and record it on camera and then upload it to the internet so that no one misses your true moment of glory.:thumb:

[Hammock Parties]

You really ought to travel to St. Joe and introduce yourself to Reid and Dorsey, explaining to them that you are the reason why Matt Cassel is no longer a Chief. You should then explain to them why they made a mistake trading for Alex Smith and that they should just save everyone some time and get rid of him now because you've preordained that he will be gone based on your in depth research. Scream and shout and wave your arms a lot while you are explaining this to them so that your speaking points are really emphasized. I'll even meet you there and record it on camera and then upload it to the internet so that no one misses your true moment of glory.:thumb:

Sorry friend. My quest is at an end. My soul is spent.

I did it all for you, the fans.

Sincerely,

Chiefs Kingdom Jesus

[Bugeater]

LMAO Not time to panic. ROFL
Yeah, Chiefs fans know exactly what that means.

[splatbass]

Yeah, it was you. The Chiefs braintrust and Clark Hunt listened to you.:rolleyes:

For an overgrown 12 year old Clay certainly has an enormous ego.

[WakkaWakka]

And this would be whom?

Pretty sure after this past season The Matt Cassel Homer ship was empty.

JFC just the other day at TC I heard a few fans defending him saying he didn't get a fair shot and that our OL sucked!

[Eleazar]

I wonder if ***** still thinks C***el can QB in this league...

[MMXcalibur]

Yeah, it was you. The Chiefs braintrust and Clark Hunt listened to you.:rolleyes:

Shhhh, he actually believes this.

[Eleazar]

Wasn't it someone else who came up with the banner and got all of that done? Not that the banner was the reason for a housecleaning or whatever.

[Fat Elvis]

Shhhh, he actually believes this.

I know....

[Bugeater]

The banner was originally pr_capone's idea.

[Hammock Parties]

Wasn't it someone else who came up with the banner and got all of that done? Not that the banner was the reason for a housecleaning or whatever.

I'll let you know when the redcoats are coming next time, too.

Sincerely,

Chiefsplanet Paul Revere

[Mav]

Well, I for one, am not worried about Ponder. As long as Ponder starts that is. He is going to be handing off a ton to AD, and he is going to need the preseason to acclimate to both Greg Jennings, and Cordarelle Patterson. No panic here. Of course, im not a Vikings fan, and I really don't care, but I think anyone panicking at this point of training camp, is a little silly and ridiculous.

[Fat Elvis]

The banner was originally pr_capone's idea.

Yeah, but Clay implanted the idea into his brain.

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, but Clay implanted the idea into his brain.

The seeds of revolution sprang forth from my virile loins!

[The Bad Guy]

Ehhh they could have Alex Smiff. Things can always get worse.

Horrendous post.

[Fat Elvis]

I also think he planted the Manchurian Candidate Redcoat who responded to Teedubya's tweet by saying, "Your choice to be a fan."

[Easy 6]

I'm not panicking, **** the vikings.

[Rausch]

You must have missed the greatest thread in Chiefsplanet history.

I spread the gospel of Matt Cassel's shittiness o'er the internet....months in advance of his actual 2012 season.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

You were an excuse making backer before that.

I didn't want the fucking turd from day one...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

HIS-SUCK-IS MAAARRRRRCHING-ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

[Simply Red]

he needs his ass beat

[Lex Luthor]

Ehhh they could have Alex Smiff. Things can always get worse.
If you think Alex Smith is worse than Matt Cassel, I have to ask if you have ever watched an NFL game.

[big nasty kcnut]

All is well vikings homers
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You really ought to travel to St. Joe and introduce yourself to Reid and Dorsey, explaining to them that you are the reason why Matt Cassel is no longer a Chief. You should then explain to them why they made a mistake trading for Alex Smith and that they should just save everyone some time and get rid of him now because you've preordained that he will be gone based on your in depth research. Scream and shout and wave your arms a lot while you are explaining this to them so that your speaking points are really emphasized. I'll even meet you there and record it on camera and then upload it to the internet so that no one misses your true moment of glory.:thumb:

They need a good talking-to. I'll help fund this trip.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

And this would be whom?

Pretty sure after this past season The Matt Cassel Homer ship was empty.

But OH, was it ever so full in 2009! Go down the list of Smith-defenders today, and you'll have basically the same crew.


Bu-bu-but....but....but.....same as it ever was.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Why Cassel? Cassel frightens me. Now it's time my enemies feel my dread.

[TLO]

he needs his ass beat

Who? Claythan?

[Chief_For_Life58]

I never wanna hear or see that bastard's name again.

this

[RealSNR]

Fuck anyone and their families who tell me I have to "move on" or some shit like that.

This asshole represents everything about the Patriot Way, which is a corrupt and evil scab on the anus of American society. The Patriot Way is backdoor deals. It's greed and nepotism all rolled into one sociopathic shit sandwich. We all see it in our daily lives. We know people married into it via their careers, contacts, or just because they're evil motherfuckers.

And this slapdicky dumbshit fuckface Matt Cassel is the kind face the Patriot Way uses to sell its AIDS to thousands of innocent people.

He's a vile human being, and I will hate him forevermore. With every fiber of my being.

[J Diddy]

Fuck anyone and their families who tell me I have to "move on" or some shit like that.

This asshole represents everything about the Patriot Way, which is a corrupt and evil scab on the anus of American society. The Patriot Way is backdoor deals. It's greed and nepotism all rolled into one sociopathic shit sandwich. We all see it in our daily lives. We know people married into it via their careers, contacts, or just because they're evil motherfuckers.

And this slapdicky dumbshit fuckface Matt Cassel is the kind face the Patriot Way uses to sell its AIDS to thousands of innocent people.

He's a vile human being, and I will hate him forevermore. With every fiber of my being.

He's a bad qb who got paid a lot of money from a bad GM. I don't question that he tried, I don't question his character, and I certainly don't think he's a vile human being deserving of hate.

Jesus, get some therapy.

[RealSNR]

He's a bad qb who got paid a lot of money from a bad GM. I don't question that he tried, I don't question his character, and I certainly don't think he's a vile human being deserving of hate.

Jesus, get some therapy.
You don't get it, do you?

[Hammock Parties]

You don't get it, do you?

It's so simple. The Pats HURT you, and now you're going to HURT them back!

I saw the look on your face when you saw Cassel get a concussion on the holodeck. You were almost ENJOYING IT.

[Rausch]

It's so simple. The Pats HURT you, and now you're going to HURT them back!

I saw the look on your face when you saw Cassel get a concussion on the holodeck. You were almost ENJOYING IT.

I'm pretty sure I went 3 quarters...

[RealSNR]

Four years ago the Patriot Way assimilated me into their collective. I had their shitty players planted throughout my favorite football team. I was linked to Pioli's hive mind. Every trace of individuality erased. I was one of them.

So you can imagine, my dear, I have a somewhat unique perspective on the Patriot Way. I know how to fight them.

Now if you would excuse me, I have work to do.

[Hammock Parties]

Four years ago the Patriot Way assimilated me into their collective. I had their shitty players planted throughout my favorite football team. I was linked to Pioli's hive mind. Every trace of individuality erased. I was one of them.

So you can imagine, my dear, I have a somewhat unique perspective on the Patriot Way. I know how to fight them.

Now if you would excuse me, I have work to do.

BLOW UP THE DAMN TEAM

[007]

It's so simple. The Pats HURT you, and now you're going to HURT them back!

I saw the look on your face when you saw Cassel get a concussion on the holodeck. You were almost ENJOYING IT.

How dare you!

[Baby Lee]

You were an excuse making backer before that.

I didn't want the fucking turd from day one...

Nor did I. Looking back, him inking that ridiculous contract was probably the death knell of Baby Lee Passionate Fan, and the phoenix rising of Baby Lee Resigned Masochist.

Conversely, the knowledge that he was gone from KC for good marked the spark of optimism I endeavor daily to nurture and maintain.

Nothing against him as a person or with his work ethic, loathed to the pits of my soul what he provided in performance and potential for the Chiefs.

[mdchiefsfan]

Sorry friend. My quest is at an end. My soul is spent.

I did it all for you, the fans.

Sincerely,

Chiefs Kingdom Jesus

ROFL

[mdchiefsfan]

It's so simple. The Pats HURT you, and now you're going to HURT them back!

I saw the look on your face when you saw Cassel get a concussion on the holodeck. You were almost ENJOYING IT.

thickening and dithguthting!

[Ace Gunner]

http://thevikingage.com/2013/07/29/christian-ponder-and-matt-cassel-are-struggling-in-camp/



Sorry Vikes. It's time to panic.

thx 4 posting. this is going to be a fun season watching Vikes fans squirm in misery. Some of them may even die from this. Matt Cassel is a murderer of football fans. Very cold blooded, he is a cunning butcher.

[rico]

I HATE the Chiefs QB situation with Smiff at #1 and Daniel #2. Ponder #1 and Cassel #2...haha I can't even imagine the frustration. And I heard something about despised by Iowans, Iowa QB, James Vandenberg being in the mix somewhere fighting for the #3 spot? LOL....wow.

[PhillyChiefFan]

But but but he led the Chiefs to a 10-6 season in 2010 guys! If he was in the right syst...ROFL I couldnt' even finish that sentence.

[bevischief]

Damn and the day I am in Mankato next week it is a closed session of training camp.

[Red Dawg]

A year ago we had no hope that Cassel and Pioli would ever be gone. We should be thankful for where we are at, even if you don't like Smith and Reid.

No shit. We are in tremendous shape compared to last year. One more big super cheer for Clark throwing Matt and Scott out on their asses.

[DaKCMan AP]

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/danpeterson/files/2013/06/BaghdadBob.gif

[BigMeatballDave]

NFL QBs should never look bad in practice.

[BlackHelicopters]

The Chiefs have improved at QB though, right?

[The Iron Chief]

No reason to panic yet Vik fans start to panic when Cassel begins filling out your injury list!

I predict the longevity of hate for Cassel will surpass that of Elvis.
At least until the next heir apparent Smith.

[Bewbies]

Will they hear the laughter in Minneapolis coming from KC when Cassel gets playing time?

[displacedinMN]

That's awesome. Can't wait to dig that in to the vikes fans.
But Ponder did take every snap last year-until the playoff game.

So what will happen tonight when I have my Chiefs truck in Mankato?
i am dealing with other things and forgot about Vikes camp there.

[Dave Lane]

If you think Alex Smith is worse than Matt Cassel, I have to ask if you have ever watched an NFL game.

I ask you if you've ever heard of sarcasm? Also it's not that far off the mark statwise.

[Dayze]

obviously, he needs more weapons and a better Oline.

[tredadda]

And this would be whom?

Pretty sure after this past season The Matt Cassel Homer ship was empty.

ROFL The thing was a ghost ship sailing out at see all alone.

[Hammock Parties]

ROFL The thing was a ghost ship sailing out at see all alone.

They say on cold, still nights out on the high seas, you can hear the good captain Cassel screaming in the distance.

Omaha! Omaha!

[Hammock Parties]

Damn and the day I am in Mankato next week it is a closed session of training camp.

Oh man.

I would so be down for trolling Cassel at Vikings camp.

Maybe next year.

[tredadda]

You were an excuse making backer before that.

I didn't want the ****ing turd from day one...

That's how he rolls. He is for something till he is against it, till he is for it, till he is against it etc.... Never fea though if Alex Smith ends up playing better for us than many think he will, Clay will be the first to hop on and drive the Alex Smith bus.

[tredadda]

They say on cold, still nights out on the high seas, you can hear the good captain Cassel screaming in the distance.

Omaha! Omaha!

That actually was funny. ROFL

[Mr. Laz]

amazing ... even from a nothing blogger from BFE put the word Cassel in a thread title and look at the hits.

[loochy]

Just think Vikings, this can be YOU in a couple of months:

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[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I have never understood why Cassel would overthrow his recievers. I mean really, passing a football is easy. Of course I'm naturally talented and have always been good at everything I've done that takes any coordination. But jesus, it's just not hard to throw a football.

[loochy]

I have never understood why Cassel would overthrow his recievers. I mean really, passing a football is easy. Of course I'm naturally talented and have always been good at everything I've done that takes any coordination. But jesus, it's just not hard to throw a football.

especially if you are CONSISTENTLY overthrowing, just start trying to underthrow a little bit...maybe?

[tredadda]

especially if you are CONSISTENTLY overthrowing, just start trying to underthrow a little bit...maybe?

When he does that he throws INTs at the line to D-Linemen.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Viking fans: Just give him time. Poor Matt, he's had nothing but turmoil his whole time in the league...at least 72 different offensive coordinators, I mean, who could handle that? 53 different head coaches, and his entire offensive line was either injured all the time or just flat out sucked. It was not Matt's fault. Just look how well he did in New England.

You guys will be just fine...If he's over throwing receivers, it's just because they are in camp and not in sync. Or more likely that they are not giving the effort it takes to reach out and catch a pass from Cassel. Again, that's on them not on good 'ol Matt...

[loochy]

When he does that he throws INTs at the line to D-Linemen.

then suicide?

[loochy]

Viking fans: Just give him time. Poor Matt, he's had nothing but turmoil his whole time in the league...at least 72 different offensive coordinators, I mean, who could handle that? 53 different head coaches, and his entire offensive line was either injured all the time or just flat out sucked. It was not Matt's fault. Just look how well he did in New England.

You guys will be just fine...If he's over throwing receivers, it's just because they are in camp and not in sync. Or more likely that they are not giving the effort it takes to reach out and catch a pass from Cassel. Again, that's on them not on good 'ol Matt...

Also, Alex Smith is an incredible QB

[Predarat]

Ponder > cAssHole easily

[InChiefsHeaven]

Also, Alex Smith is an incredible QB

FUCK YEAH!

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

NFL QBs should never look bad in practice.

Pretty much. I'm pretty sure Trent Green was usually around the 90% completion rate. Though he was going against a bunch of CFLers

[loochy]

FUCK YEAH!

http://i.imgur.com/cxM5gKA.gif

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Chiefs have improved at QB though, right?

You think? Top 10 PFF QB from a Bottom 30 guy even in his "Pro Bowl" Year Cassel was sucky.

[FringeNC]

Cassel is not accurate at camp in Minnesota, he was not accurate in camp for us, and I'm sure it was no different in New England. Pioli observed it on daily basis, yet felt Cassel was the right guy to build a franchise around?

One of the epic fails in NFL history...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dick Haley was right all along

[MahiMike]

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!"
-Denny Green

[Tombstone RJ]

With Cassel gone, kc will will now go 16-0 in the regular season.

[Dayze]

http://i.imgur.com/cxM5gKA.gif

LMAO
"Ouch"

[RunKC]

It still pisses me off that this guy has millions of dollars in the bank for being such a shitty player.

[Coogs]

We know Cassel has had problems turning the ball over in recent years. If his experience thus far at Mankato is any indication, that is still going to be a problem. He is getting picked off on a regular basis.


Reporter: "Gus. How would you grade your first week of camp?"

Gus: "I graded out perfect."

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Crossbars all across Mankato have filed assault charges against him.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It still pisses me off that this guy has millions of dollars in the bank for being such a shitty player.

Peeholi!

Trust Process!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Lil Vikey is Lovin Every Minute Of It

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lil Vikey is Lovin Every Minute Of It

LMAO

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[The Franchise]

You're fucking right I cheered his concussion. I'd do it again if I had to.

[Rausch]

You're ****ing right I cheered his concussion. I'd do it again if I had to.

I'd have swerved in traffic to cause it if I could have...

[Coogs]

Gus getting injured was the only way we were ever going to have a change at QB. I really didn't cheer, 'cause I was at home by myself watching the game. But at the same damn time, I did say something along the lines of "Finally, a change at QB!"

Now if I would have been at the stadium, it probably would have been interpreted as "cheering Gus's injury".

[COchief]

I get the feeling I'll be hanging around the Vikes boards a lot this season posting 2010 Cassel stats (how many of those 27 tds were one yard swing passes on 1st down? And who ordered those plays to be called? Peeoli?) to get them pumped for Kasl. I posted a lot of awesome Grbitch stats on the Baltimore Sun after he rolled that way.

The higher you can bring them up, the further they'll fall. Dickmove? Hell yeah, but we're Chiefs fans and need to spread the suffering around a bit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well let's see; this thread is about a useless POS and it's started by Fat Elvis, so it definitely needs some spice.

Yep, this thread is as good a place as any:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9526266/geno-smith-outplaying-mark-sanchez-first-week-new-york-jets-training-camp (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9526266/geno-smith-outplaying-mark-sanchez-first-week-new-york-jets-training-camp)

U R Welcome.

[RippedmyFlesh]

I get the feeling I'll be hanging around the Vikes boards a lot this season posting 2010 Cassel stats (how many of those 27 tds were one yard swing passes on 1st down? And who ordered those plays to be called? Peeoli?) to get them pumped for Kasl. I posted a lot of awesome Grbitch stats on the Baltimore Sun after he rolled that way.

The higher you can bring them up, the further they'll fall. Dickmove? Hell yeah, but we're Chiefs fans and need to spread the suffering around a bit.

So basically like the AS posters here?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

So basically like the AS posters here?

I don't know man, that's like picking on the special kid at school. Either that, or we are usually just happy to let a player go.

[Beef Supreme]

So ... panic?

[Fat Elvis]

Well let's see; this thread is about a useless POS and it's started by Fat Elvis, so it definitely needs some spice.

Yep, this thread is as good a place as any:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9526266/geno-smith-outplaying-mark-sanchez-first-week-new-york-jets-training-camp (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9526266/geno-smith-outplaying-mark-sanchez-first-week-new-york-jets-training-camp)

U R Welcome.

:shrug: I was on the Geno bandwagon last year. Early. Long before you. Go check the original Geno bandwagon thread; post #14. I still thought the Chiefs were going to draft him 1.1 even after they signed ASmith.

The K-State and Syracuse games gave me pause for concern, but when reports that he would just stay on his cell phone during visits came out, I didn't think he was that hot of a prospect. Unlike others, I didn't think he interviewed very well on the radio/tv. He's not exactly a very charismatic guy like you want to see in a QB.

I'd still take him over Buttchin.

[Rasputin]

"Matt Cassel is overthrowing receivers and getting picked"



They need to understand that when Matt Cassel is overthrowing his receivers and getting picked he is only bringing his "A" game.