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allen_kcCard
08-23-2013, 02:59 PM
I have a 2001 f150 with 180k miles that has a head that had to get a sleeve put in it for the spark plug years back. That sleeve is now loose and the shop said it probably won't be able to be repaired when, not if, it comes loose again.

They said if that happens it will take replacing the head to keep it running, and I was trying to figure out if that would be a cost effective option, or if I should just trade the thing in while I could.

The head is the passenger side head on the #3 cylinder, if that matters in the situation.

Dunerdr
08-23-2013, 03:04 PM
Usually they will sleeve again or junk yard head that bitch. That ford spark plug thing is complete crap on the manufacturers part.

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:06 PM
I have a 2001 f150 with 180k miles that has a head that had to get a sleeve put in it for the spark plug years back. That sleeve is now loose and the shop said it probably won't be able to be repaired when, not if, it comes loose again.

They said if that happens it will take replacing the head to keep it running, and I was trying to figure out if that would be a cost effective option, or if I should just trade the thing in while I could.

The head is the passenger side head on the #3 cylinder, if that matters in the situation.

Well, you've come to the right place, and I haven't even read your post yet, just looked at the title...

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:07 PM
I have a 2001 f150 with 180k miles that has a head that had to get a sleeve put in it for the spark plug years back. That sleeve is now loose and the shop said it probably won't be able to be repaired when, not if, it comes loose again.

They said if that happens it will take replacing the head to keep it running, and I was trying to figure out if that would be a cost effective option, or if I should just trade the thing in while I could.

The head is the passenger side head on the #3 cylinder, if that matters in the situation.

Does it have the 4.2L V6 by any chance?

allen_kcCard
08-23-2013, 03:08 PM
Does it have the 4.2L V6 by any chance?

5.4.

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:10 PM
5.4.

4x4 or RWD?

allen_kcCard
08-23-2013, 03:10 PM
4x4 or RWD?

4X4 lariat.

FlaChief58
08-23-2013, 03:12 PM
If the rest of the truck is in good shape & you want to keep it, you might want to replace the motor considering the miles it has on it.

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:12 PM
4X4 lariat.

Return to post #3.

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:13 PM
Return to post #3.

lol, I slay me. :)

allen_kcCard
08-23-2013, 03:20 PM
If the rest of the truck is in good shape & you want to keep it, you might want to replace the motor considering the miles it has on it.

Hm...noted and a viable option. What I'd like to do is keep the truck in running order, and get a motorcycle for my hour commute to work instead of just getting a new car that will get better (than the truck), but not as good of mileage as the bike and have a much higher payment.

Tombstone RJ
08-23-2013, 03:20 PM
In all seriousness, it's strange the shop can't fix it but that might mean whoever fixed it the first time messed it up. Here's a website for Timesert, apparently this is not an uncommon problem for the 5.4L and 4.6L V8s: http://www.blownoutsparkplug.com/

FlaChief58
08-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Hm...noted and a viable option. What I'd like to do is keep the truck in running order, and get a motorcycle for my hour commute to work instead of just getting a new car that will get better (than the truck), but not as good of mileage as the bike and have a much higher payment.

I guess it depends on your situation but, I'd go with a new motor in the truck AND get the bike. You'd have 2 vehicles for the price of 1.

shitgoose
08-23-2013, 04:05 PM
I had the same thing happen and put a sleeve in my F250 with a 5.4. I ended up selling it pretty soon after I installed the sleeve as I was told by multiple people that the head cannot be swapped with the motor in chassis. Also was told, but not 100% sure, that the body has to be lifted to swap motors if you go that route. Keep in mind this was a F250 SD and not an F150. I bought a gmc with the 5.3 and don't have to worry about all that bullshit with those ford mod motors

Buzz
08-23-2013, 05:09 PM
Repairpal.com

Bugeater
08-23-2013, 05:17 PM
It's probably going to cost a lot.

Setsuna
08-23-2013, 05:43 PM
My brother traded his in and got a new car. Pretty sure it was sold for parts.

JoeyChuckles
08-23-2013, 07:23 PM
Fun fact: Estimate means to make an educated guess at something. Therefore, "guesstimate" is redundant.

Unless you are making an estimate while a guest at an event.

Brock
08-23-2013, 07:34 PM
Salvage yard head, machine shop trip, bolt it on yourself. Profit.

Brock
08-23-2013, 07:35 PM
I'd budget 500

SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:44 PM
I'd budget 500

Heave you changed one of those heads before?
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SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:45 PM
Is the insert leaking compression around it?
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Brock
08-23-2013, 07:48 PM
Heave you changed one of those heads before?
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No, is it tough?

SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:48 PM
And you can pull the heads our even get that motor out without any body disassembly.

I've done many. I'm sure its not the way the book says to do it but I can get it out of there. You just have to figure out how to male the balancer point straight up
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SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:52 PM
No, is it tough?

When I bought the just the tools needed they were over 500 bucks.

But that was when they first came out, surely they are cheaper now.

That job sucks though IMO. its definitely not my favorite, and that's coming from a guy who does tons of head gaskets...

On this one with those miles I would try to screw the plug out and hope
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SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:54 PM
The insert comes with it. Then get a new plug and SOLID STEEL insert. Screw the plug into the insert and coat the outside with jb weld. Then screw it all back in tight. Wait a couple minutes and take the plug out. The next morning reinstall plug and hope its fixed.


I've fixed a ton of them that other shops fucked up previously.
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SAUTO
08-23-2013, 07:55 PM
If the insert comes back out with the plug you have to start over though.


Pm me tomorrow if interested in the kit I use for the inserts. Best one I've find but its at the shop.
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allen_kcCard
08-24-2013, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the feedback.

There is a shop from back home that I've used a lot in the past that said about $1500 for it to be done. I'll probably mull it over this weekend and decide, but my wife is requesting that I go the trade in and get a car route.

Setsuna
08-24-2013, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback.

There is a shop from back home that I've used a lot in the past that said about $1500 for it to be done. I'll probably mull it over this weekend and decide, but my wife is requesting that I go the trade in and get a car route.

Negro thats what I just said!

Simply Red
08-24-2013, 12:56 PM
I see this repair around $753ish - give or take $40