Suh slapped with 100K fine for illegal block

[LiveSteam]

http://on.ketv.com/17Wa0dQ

NFL spokesman Randall Liu says vice president of football operations Merton Hanks notified the Detroit defensive tackle of the fine. Suh hit Vikings center John Sullivan during an interception return, drawing a penalty that negated a touchdown by Detroit linebacker DeAndre Levy.

Suh said he wasn't going after Sullivan's knees, adding that the two discussed the play at halftime. Detroit players said Suh apologized to the team Tuesday.

The NFL fined Suh $30,000 last year for unnecessary roughness when he kicked Houston quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin area. He was suspended two games in 2011 after stomping on Green Bay's Evan Dietrich-Smith

[Al Czervik]

100K is good...but his cheapshot ass should miss a game IMO

[FlaChief58]

Ouch, that's gotta sting, even for him

[Pepe Silvia]

Not surprised, hes a dirty player, everyone knows this.

[Mr. Laz]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

[Rasputin]

Ha ha it's funny because they talked about him changing and they made him a team captain.

First game of the season this.

[gblowfish]

Meh, that's just one more Chrysler commercial he'll have to do. No biggie.

[mr. tegu]

Wow. That will leave a dent.

[LiveSteam]

I wounder how long before Goofdell goes after Chip Kelly's offensive linemen for chopping at the knees?

[ChiTown]

This guy deserves to have his knees taken out and career ended. What a fkn bitch-assed punk.

[vailpass]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

Agreed.

[SDChiefs]

its funny cause hes fat....

[Pitt Gorilla]

I'm shocked that Suh and Levonte David had incredibly stupid penalties this week.

[Red Gorilla]

I wounder how long before Goofdell goes after Chip Kelly's offensive linemen for chopping at the knees?

He should if he's going to go after Suh. Good post.

[FlaChief58]

its funny cause hes fat....

LMAO

[Dayze]

Hines Ward would've been fined a shit load of cash back in the day

[BlackHelicopters]

I'm shocked that Suh and Levonte David had incredibly stupid penalties this week.

LMAO

[mr. tegu]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

Seriously? Most players just run with their guy in that situation instead of blocking someone from a blind side like that.

[mr. tegu]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/09/suhcheap.gif

[ChiTown]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/09/suhcheap.gif

That is just fucking pathetic. Someone is going to send him and his worthless ass out of the league. Bounty time.

[gblowfish]

The thing about that play is, he's blocking way behind the ball. That guy was never going to catch the runner. That's just malicious, and very Raider like.

[Three7s]

The thing about that play is, he's blocking way behind the ball. That guy was never going to catch the runner. That's just malicious, and very Raider like.
Exactly, he's a freaking fool.

[lawrenceRaider]

Hines Ward would've been fined a shit load of cash back in the day

But he was just a good hard nosed player.

[Easy 6]

I just find it funny that Sullivan was still hustling, with O chance of catching the guy LMAO

[Rain Man]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.


Y'know, I'm in the same camp. That didn't look any different than a ton of blocks that I see on wide runs every game.

And Merton Hanks? Wow. I haven't heard that name in a while. The funny thing is that I always assumed he was some sort of goober clown with his little dance and chicken neck, but he was one of the interviewees on one of the "America's Game" shows, and the guy was incredibly eloquent and well spoken.

[Jerm]

Hilarious that a league who continually spouts safety and health concern lets this moron make one cheap and dirty play after another...

[vailpass]

Y'know, I'm in the same camp. That didn't look any different than a ton of blocks that I see on wide runs every game.

And Merton Hanks? Wow. I haven't heard that name in a while. The funny thing is that I always assumed he was some sort of goober clown with his little dance and chicken neck, but he was one of the interviewees on one of the "America's Game" shows, and the guy was incredibly eloquent and well spoken.

Of course. He's a Hawkeye.

[Dayze]

But he was just a good hard nosed player.

"Hines Ward. What a player. Always has a smile on his face" / any broadcaster during a game

[Easy 6]

"Hines Ward. What a player. Always has a smile on his face" / any broadcaster during a game

Tell the truth though... you'd have been thrilled to have him in KC.

I know I would.

[vailpass]

Tell the truth though... you'd have been thrilled to have him in KC.

I know I would.

Hell yes, I'd have loved to see him in Orange.

[Dayze]

Tell the truth though... you'd have been thrilled to have him in KC.

I know I would.

well, yeah. :D

[WhiteWhale]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

Cut blocking is illegal after a turnover.

Suh saw the turnover and went for an illegal block.

[Valiant]

Shit. Wish they just would protect all players equally with this shit. Make it no blocks below the knee period if they are that worried. And also a 15yard penalty for any online pushing a player from behind that is going after the qb.

Be equal at least.

[Dayze]

Shit. Wish they just would protect all players equally with this shit. Make it no blocks below the knee period if they are that worried. And also a 15yard penalty for any online pushing a player from behind that is going after the qb.

Be equal at least.

yep.

[Three7s]

Y'know, I'm in the same camp. That didn't look any different than a ton of blocks that I see on wide runs every game.

And Merton Hanks? Wow. I haven't heard that name in a while. The funny thing is that I always assumed he was some sort of goober clown with his little dance and chicken neck, but he was one of the interviewees on one of the "America's Game" shows, and the guy was incredibly eloquent and well spoken.
If you look at the gif, the problem I have is that the Viking pursuing the play had NO CHANCE at catching the ball carrier. Remember when people were going nuts about the Stevie Johnson block on Berry? It's similar in that both players had no chance at making a play, yet were cut blocked.

[Rain Man]

Cut blocking is illegal after a turnover.

Suh saw the turnover and went for an illegal block.


It is? I had no idea. I know you're not allowed to hit the quarterback (sigh) and I thought they made some blindside rule after Warren Sapp his Chad Clifton, but I didn't know that there was a no-cut rule.

[Rain Man]

If you look at the gif, the problem I have is that the Viking pursuing the play had NO CHANCE at catching the ball carrier. Remember when people were going nuts about the Stevie Johnson block on Berry? It's similar in that both players had no chance at making a play, yet were cut blocked.

Yeah, I guess I can see that perspective. It's a little subjective, but I can see it.

[Kaepernick]

I can't wait for his lifetime ban. Punk.

[FlaChief58]

The thing about that play is, he's blocking way behind the ball. That guy was never going to catch the runner. That's just malicious, and very Raider like.

This

[LiveSteam]

I can't wait for his lifetime ban. Punk.

Never happen

[vailpass]

Never happen

Hell no.

[Mr. Laz]

Cut blocking is illegal after a turnover.

Suh saw the turnover and went for an illegal block.
is it completely illegal or just illegal against 'a defensiveless player no longer in the play'?


sincere question ... im not sure of the rule

[Bump]

I hate when they put these articles up and don't even show a video of the play that he got fined for

[FlaChief58]

Never happen

Sadly, you're right. Mainly because there are enough fans who think shit like that ok fine as long as it's no one on their FF team

[LiveSteam]

Sadly, you're right. Mainly because there are enough fans who think shit like that ok fine as long as it's no one on their FF team

Well he dose not play for my team anymore. But when he did. Blaine Gabert cried like a lil bitch & Colt Mcoy pissed himself

[FlaChief58]

Well he dose not play for my team anymore. But when he did. Blaine Gabert cried like a lil bitch & Colt Mcoy pissed himself

He's a bad mofo for sure, so much so that he doesn't need to be a dirty bitch & try and end other players season, or worse, their career.

[WhiteWhale]

is it completely illegal or just illegal against 'a defensiveless player no longer in the play'?


sincere question ... im not sure of the rule

Not legal. At all.

It's not legal on any play where there is a change of possession, including punts.

Honestly I don't think this is a new rule. It's been like that as long as I can remember. Pretty sure this one has been around since the 70's.

Second of all he cut the guy from behind...which is pretty much always illegal as well.

It was a horribly dirty play. There's no way after all of these years he doesn't know that.

[Holladay]

Suh must not be that smart. Knees/hands/balls make a football player. It's how they make a living. If someone has a history of causing injuries to those areas is a marked man on the field. There are a ton of big badasses in the NFL. Who knows what happens under a pile.

[Rain Man]

Suh must not be that smart. Knees/hands/balls make a football player. It's how they make a living. If someone has a history of causing injuries to those areas is a marked man on the field. There are a ton of big badasses in the NFL. Who knows what happens under a pile.


I'm intrigued by the concept of a guy being told, "You play too rough to be a professional football player." That's really saying something.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Lets put $100,000 in perspective.

Boar #6446 is a Maternal line boar wich means he produces offspring used for breeding stock. His semen is priced at $40 / dose. I get 12 good doses from him every time he spits in my thermos bottle. 12 x 40 = 480 .

100,000 / 480 means I gotta jerk that boar off 208 times to cover that fine.

He can be jerked twice a week so that means I gotta do that for 2 years just for one so so chop block .

That ain't right ! :drool:

[Holladay]

I'm intrigued by the concept of a guy being told, "You play too rough to be a professional football player." That's really saying something.


The NFL fined Suh $30,000 last year for unnecessary roughness when he kicked Houston quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin area. He was suspended two games in 2011 after stomping on Green Bay's Evan Dietrich-Smith

I don't have a problem with aggressive, hardnosed play. But nasty, going to take you out low at the knees and I see you down "accidently" kicking him in the balls is outta bounds. Have you seen where he stomped on that dudes hand with cleats? All totally unnecessary.

Understand it is a violent game and so do the players. I'm just saying the players know more about this then I do. And if someone deliberately stomped on my hand....I'd be pissed and so would my team mates.

[Mr. Laz]

Not legal. At all.

It's not legal on any play where there is a change of possession, including punts.

Honestly I don't think this is a new rule. It's been like that as long as I can remember. Pretty sure this one has been around since the 70's.

Second of all he cut the guy from behind...which is pretty much always illegal as well.

It was a horribly dirty play. There's no way after all of these years he doesn't know that.well that changes things

[Saccopoo]

I can't wait for his lifetime ban. Punk.

And yet that piece of shit Warren Sapp goes into the Hall of Fame with the Clifton hit on his resume.

[Gravedigger]

I don't know... that offensive lineman could have very well caught up to the defender... He was a threat so DAMAKUNG had to take him out!

[themanwithnoname]

Yeah that was a dirty play. I guess I'm in the minority but I love them trying to protect the head and knees as shit like this just robs us of good players.

There's no way Suh can argue he wasn't deliberately going for the knee either. Its one thing to be a dirty mother ****er its another to keep lying when its very obvious what his intention was.

Also, I can't stand Hines Ward, but I don't remember him being a total shitbag, he'd kinda blindside guys but not really, generally he seemed to block guys straight on or at least get a good portion of their front even when going from the side, and pop them in the chest/shoulder, not dive for their knees or throw his elbows to their faces.

Hmm, checking some of the youtube ones, yeah he'd probably get fined, although while they're hard hits I don't think they're total chickenshit like Suh and some of these others. Plus he seemed to focus doing that to teams that had a habit of being shitheads themselves (like the Ravens). The Reed one kinda was as it seemed like he blocked almost too early and could've just pushed instead of full on spearing him like he did. Actually that's what would have probably gotten him fined is leading with his helmet.

[Consistent1]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

I think so too. He was just reacting. Some people just look at things differently.

Shit happens so fast that I really believe a lot of this type of stuff just comes from guys truly playing hard.

[O.city]

That's dirty. That's not playing hard or reacting.

Like its discussed here, first off its an illegal play. You can't cut guys on Chang of possession plays. Second, it's behind the ball. Third, it's just a shit way to block the guy. If you are going to cutback on someone like that ( I think is a push way to block but anyway) you hit him right between the numbers, not the knees.

It was a dirty play by a dirty player who continually shows that yes, he is intact a dirty player

[Consistent1]

That's dirty. That's not playing hard or reacting.

Like its discussed here, first off its an illegal play. You can't cut guys on Chang of possession plays. Second, it's behind the ball. Third, it's just a shit way to block the guy. If you are going to cutback on someone like that ( I think is a push way to block but anyway) you hit him right between the numbers, not the knees.

It was a dirty play by a dirty player who continually shows that yes, he is intact a dirty player

Whatever. I don't even think it was a dirty block.

[O.city]

Hitting a guy from the side and behind, blindsided, below the waist is dirty. It's a career ending block.

[LiveSteam]

It was not from behind. thats a clip
& back when I played football. (before the pussification) That would have been a clean block on any other play

[O.city]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/09/suhcheap.gif

If you can't block a guy in his numbers or see his numbers when making the block, it can technically be termed an illegal block in the back.

This wasn't a block in the back, but knowing how most knees are destroyed ( hit from th side, that movement right there) that's a dirty play.

The guy is out of the play as well.

Call it pussification whatever you want, whatever age you played in, that's a dirty play.

[O.city]

And fwiw, in high school football, it's illegal to cut block outside of the tackle box, and has been for as long as I can remember

At least, if my memory serves me right

[Consistent1]

And fwiw, in high school football, it's illegal to cut block outside of the tackle box, and has been for as long as I can remember

At least, if my memory serves me right


I still say that Suh was probably gassed from being huge and still went after the guy. It was probably falling down as much as anything. Haha.

As far as the guy being out of the play, maybe, but you don't want your players assuming that.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I probably in the minority ... but i didn't think it was that bad.


Suh saw the turnover and went to block :shrug:


He supposed to wait and judge whether the guy could catch him or not?

If you wait for that then you might as well not block at all.

I agree with this. This was like the least dirty play Suh has ever made.

[mr. tegu]

I still say that Suh was probably gassed from being huge and still went after the guy. It was probably falling down as much as anything. Haha.

As far as the guy being out of the play, maybe, but you don't want your players assuming that.

The play happened at the beginning of the second quarter so I doubt he was gassed.

The Lions got a TD called back because of his idiocy. If he really didn't think the guy was out of the play he should have done something legal like try to get in front of him or at least shoulder bump him to slow him down.

[AussieChiefsFan]

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/09/suhcheap.gifPure asshole. It takes a special kind of person to do that. I'm amazed Sullivan didn't tear a ligament.

[vailpass]

Pure asshole. It takes a special kind of person to do that. I'm amazed Sullivan didn't tear a ligament.

Guy plays hard, I'd have him on my team. Needs coaching.

[Saccopoo]

Guy plays hard, I'd have him on my team. Needs coaching.

He's a real douche. He has a history of cheap shots and attempts to injure beyond the rules of the game. You can see him look into Sullivan's knees when he goes in. It was completely malicious.

And he's never reached the level of his rookie seasons since then. He's not worth what he's getting paid at this point and the refs and league are now on him like stink on a monkey.

Fuck Suh and fuck Jim Schwartz, who's a world class turd himself who is happy to allow his players to play and conduct themselves with zero discipline and respect for the game.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Guy plays hard, I'd have him on my team. Needs coaching.True, he IS a very talented player, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a douche who wouldn't want mentoring a rookie.

[LiveSteam]

JFC its football. American style. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vailpass]

True, he IS a very talented player, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a douche who wouldn't want mentoring a rookie.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/timing
Can't argue with you there.

[AussieChiefsFan]

JFC its football. American style. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not.

[Consistent1]

The play happened at the beginning of the second quarter so I doubt he was gassed.

The Lions got a TD called back because of his idiocy. If he really didn't think the guy was out of the play he should have done something legal like try to get in front of him or at least shoulder bump him to slow him down.

On the play he was gassed. Going up against other huge dudes calling you a bitch is not easy. I mean really, is just supposed to magically obtain 4.3 forty speed and get in front of him. What the fuck ever, he was at least trying to do something.

There are a lot of guys who wouldn't have done shit. He thought the block was needed. And it all happens FAST.

[AussieChiefsFan]

On the play he was gassed. Going up against other huge dudes calling you a bitch is not easy. I mean really, is just supposed to magically obtain 4.3 forty speed and get in front of him. What the fuck ever, he was at least trying to do something.

There are a lot of guys who wouldn't have done shit. He thought the block was needed. And it all happens FAST.

For most other players, that would be a good point, but it's Suh.

[Consistent1]

For most other players, that would be a good point, but it's Suh.

Would you take him on the Chiefs?

[AussieChiefsFan]

Would you take him on the Chiefs?

You know, that's tough. I really think Poe is turning into the player we need him to be. If it was a straight up "Here, have Suh for free" then sure. But if we need to pay him as much as he is getting paid by detroit, then maybe not.

[LiveSteam]

I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not.

NO I am not. I cant stand the pussification that is becoming the NFL
National Flag League

[Consistent1]

You know, that's tough. I really think Poe is turning into the player we need him to be. If it was a straight up "Here, have Suh for free" then sure. But if we need to pay him as much as he is getting paid by detroit, then maybe not.

I think questioning it is crazy. He is way better than anyone we have.

He plays like the old school Steeler teams I hated.

Just no regard for anything most people would think is responsible.

The lazy guys are the ones that suck.

[AussieChiefsFan]

NO I am not. I cant stand the pussification that is becoming the NFL
National Flag League

Man that was a cheap shot if I ever saw one. I agree that the rules ate getting ridiculous, but that low hit was horrible. I'm still amazed its only a contusion.

[AussieChiefsFan]

I think questioning it is crazy. He is way better than anyone we have.

He plays like the old school Steeler teams I hated.

Just no regard for anything most people would think is responsible.

The lazy guys are the ones that suck.

I'm not doubting his ability, but I just hate players that do shit like that. That could have Bern Sullivan's season(s) in one cheap shot.