**Official Royals V Indians Thread 09-10-13**

[ChiTown]

Guthrie vs McAllister

Win, and we are still in it. Lose, and I don't see a lot of hope left. SO, LET'S WIN THIS MOTHER****ER!

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[BlackHelicopters]

In

[Mr. Laz]

gotta win the next 2

[BlackHelicopters]

Must win games

[LoneWolf]

I fucking hate Dyson in the lineup. IMO, his value is as a pinch runner in crucial situations.

[Prison Bitch]

Dyson has a better war than Myers in the same number of plate appearances.

[9er guy]

http://www.abbeyrosekudrin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Indians-Logo.gif

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!

[Dartgod]

*Racist image removed*

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!

Negged.

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[stonedstooge]

Hope that LeadHead Ned stays out of the way tonight. Can't afford too many more losses by manager

[WhawhaWhat]

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[stonedstooge]

http://www.abbeyrosekudrin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Indians-Logo.gif

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!

Take that war drum club and stick it where the sun don't shine

[BlackHelicopters]

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Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!![/QUOTE]

Neg

[Dartgod]

Biggest game of the year. Let's go get 'em guys!

[Dartgod]

He should have taken a walk. /3and13

[stonedstooge]

Need a good one tonight Guthrie

[stonedstooge]

Guthrie digging a hole

[Dartgod]

Fuck.

[stonedstooge]

Out, out, single, single, single. 1-0

[Dartgod]

Come on, Guthrie!

And will someone please beat down that asshole with the drum?

[stonedstooge]

Guthrie not fooling anyone yet

[chiefsfan987]

Need a good one tonight Guthrie

I'm not expecting it but hoping for one.

[kstater]

Not many must wins in baseball. This is one of them.

[stonedstooge]

Belly takes one to the gut

[kstater]

well fuck

[KCUnited]

Moose with the DP before I could get a Billy is fat post typed out.

[Archie F. Swin]

these MFers don't even deserve to go to the post season if their fans don't even turn out for their games. Less than 10k in atendance last night.

[kcjayhawks5]

http://www.abbeyrosekudrin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Indians-Logo.gif

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!

Fuck off

[Dartgod]

Guthrie better start getting his pitches down.

[stonedstooge]

I miss that Choo being on the Indians. You could always count on him to be a pussy at least once a series.

[petegz28]

that wasn't a misread....that was laziness

[Dartgod]

Jesus Christ, Dyson!

[Toadkiller]

Oh for fucks sake.

[stonedstooge]

Dyson makes it look easy

[petegz28]

and no way that was a hit...that was an error

[Dartgod]

Bullshit, that should be an error.

[Archie F. Swin]

thats what speed.......shit

[KevB]

At least he made that ridiculous miss look cool, that's what matters.

[chiefsfan987]

good god dyson.... after that misplay you're going to try and show up the ump. What an idiot.

[stonedstooge]

Dammit Alex. Pops up way too many of those high outside pitches

[kstater]

He may have balked there

[stonedstooge]

Time to show them who you are Hos

[stonedstooge]

fuck

[Mr. Laz]

You really would like for one of your best players to come through in that situation.

[stonedstooge]

Guthrie in trouble again. 1st and 3rd with 1 out

[stonedstooge]

w00t. Double play ends it

[ChiTown]

Huge DP! Now, lets get after McAllister!

[stonedstooge]

1 hit for the Royals so far.

[stonedstooge]

LOUGH WITH THE GREAT CATCH. w00t

[cosmo20002]

NICE

[KCUnited]

Whew.

[stonedstooge]

BYE BYE ESCOBAR HAHA HATERS

[kstater]

ESKY

[ChiTown]

WOW! Esky, Bitches!

[KCUnited]

Monster shot.

[C3HIEF3S]

ESKY!!

[stonedstooge]

w00t. Bunt single and pitcher throws it away. Come on ALEXXXXXXXX

[stonedstooge]

Umps going to start that shit again?

[Al Bundy]

Hummmm well another bad call.

[ChiTown]

Not even close. That was a ball.

[stonedstooge]

Tie ball game, but we should have more

[ChiTown]

Gawdamnit! Great shot by Emilio

[Pablo]

[IMG]

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!A 49er/Indians douche?

You're a rare fucking breed. Negged for gaying up the Royals thread.

[stonedstooge]

Defense bailing us out tonight

[kstater]

Nice

[stonedstooge]

w00t. Walk and double by Belly with no outs

[kstater]

How does moose hit into triple play here?

[LoneWolf]

MMMOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[stonedstooge]

MOOOOSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE doubles in 2. HAHAHAHA HATERS

[C3HIEF3S]

Moooooose!!!

[kstater]

Nice. Even enough to put Billy in.

[stonedstooge]

Salvy singles in Moose. 4-1

[Al Bundy]

Let's go Tribe!!!! We gotta keep pace with the Rays for that Wild Card!!

Suck on that.

[stonedstooge]

Hope Ned is getting his bullpen warming up

[stonedstooge]

Anyone know if Frenchy is playing AAA?

[KCUnited]

Oh my, look at the hijinx down at first!!

[stonedstooge]

Royals love to visit!

[kstater]

w00t

[stonedstooge]

DE FENCE

[C3HIEF3S]

Another double play!

[stonedstooge]

Let's put another 3 on them and make them quit

[BlackHelicopters]

Put it away

[stonedstooge]

Put it away

You getting healed up?

[stonedstooge]

Boys are playing hard

[JoeyChuckles]

Damn this pitcher's name is racist.

[C3HIEF3S]

Nice job Billy!
5-1 KC

[stonedstooge]

Belly SF RBI. 5-1

[WhawhaWhat]

Good Job Billy!

[BWillie]

Wow amazing. ..worthless fly out by moose shit tacos

[Al Bundy]

The ump squeezing hard

[stonedstooge]

Kelvin couldn't get the 4th strike

[Mr. Laz]

kelvin here
Hoch in the 8th
Holland in the 9th

[Cephalic Trauma]

kelvin here
Hoch in the 8th
Holland in the 9th

Bring on Hoch right now. Screw your shit, Kelvin.

[stonedstooge]

But he said he was o.k.!/Leadhead Ned

[C3HIEF3S]

So Herrera had a blister and they let him keep pitching?

[kstater]

Great job Ned! leave the injured pitcher out there. Fucking brilliant.

[SPchief]

He was clearly bothered by his hand.

[-King-]

Damn. Are they really going to keep Herrera in?

[Mr. Laz]

just pull him, dammit.

[petegz28]

Ned working hard at costing us another one

[kstater]

Damn. Are they really going to keep Herrera in?

If you're not live. Skip the next 30 seconds.

[petegz28]

Hoch will most likely give up a run if not a long ball

[Mr. Laz]

big red boobies

[-King-]

If you're not live. Skip the next 30 seconds.

I was as much as 2 hrs behind before accidentally changing the channel. I was 30 seconds behind when I made that post. Live now.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Hoch will most likely give up a run if not a long ball

Shut your fucking mouth pete.

[SPchief]

Hoch will most likely give up a run if not a long ball

Come on pete

[kstater]

Nasty

[SPchief]

Sit down bitch!

[stonedstooge]

HAHAHA. COOL HAND FUCKING LUKE

[kstater]

How did he not get tossed?

[Cephalic Trauma]

Fuck yes. Suck it pete.

[SPchief]

Toss his ass out

[KCUnited]

Get job of not throwing out the other team's player.

[Mr. Laz]

payback for that outside pitch called a strike earlier on Gordon

[-King-]

LMAO @ Swisher

[petegz28]

**** yes. Suck it pete.

You act like I'm mad because he got the K....

[kstater]

Watch Ned start Hochevar in a playoff game. SHow us all how smart he is.

[KCGal]

I want to punch Ned in the hunch right now.

[kstater]

Where the fuck was that?

[kstater]

Nice

[SPchief]

LUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[kstater]

SIT THE FUCK DOWN

[-King-]

Ouch. Ouch. Wow!

[petegz28]

Never a doubt

[siberian khatru]

Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

[stonedstooge]

w00t. LUKE STOPS THE BLEEDING. 5-3

[Mr. Laz]

A 98 mph sit down bitch pitch

[KCGal]

If he doesn't leave hoch out for the 8th It will be like someone peeing on my cinnamon toast. Man I can't stand Ned.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Hoch will most likely give up a run if not a long ball

wut?

Go be an Indian fan you dirty bastard.

[Shogun]

HIGH LEVERAGE LUKE MAKING AN APPEARANCE

[C3HIEF3S]

Hoch is becoming unfuckingtouchable.

[KevB]

JFC, sit down son

For all the hate I've built up for Hoch as a starter, that dude has been frickin' nails this season out of the pen. He has closer stuff right now.

[siberian khatru]

If he doesn't leave hoch out for the 8th It will be like someone peeing on my cinnamon toast. Man I can't stand Ned.

Crooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[stonedstooge]

Crooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ROFL

[Cephalic Trauma]

As it stands, we will gain 3 games on teams ahead of us. Badass.

[LoneWolf]

And Hoch says, "Hey, Pete, how does my ass taste?"

[petegz28]

wut?

Go be an Indian fan you dirty bastard.

shut your vag hole...I was watching Royals baseball before you were itchin your daddy's peni

[KCGal]

Crooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

You take that back.

Oh crap. He's gonna do it isn't he?

[petegz28]

And Hoch says, "Hey, Pete, how does my ass taste?"

sun and a dog's ass, broken clock and what not

[Cephalic Trauma]

shut your vag hole...I was watching Royals baseball before you were itchin your daddy's peni

Not everyone does that Pete. Just your family.

[LoneWolf]

sun and a dog's ass, broken clock and what not

I prefer Pete and a prediction.

[petegz28]

Not everyone does that Pete. Just your family.

wow, you told me.....:spock:

[-King-]

sun and a dog's ass, broken clock and what not

Have you missed how Hoch has pitched this whole season?

[kstater]

LOUGH

[-King-]

I prefer Pete and a prediction.

LMAO

[petegz28]

Dude, Lough is a fucking gamer..that's all there is to it

[stonedstooge]

Lough turns a double in to 3

[KCGal]

As it stands, we will gain 3 games on teams ahead of us. Badass.

Whoa. Don't get ahead of yourself. I soooo hope you're right. But it is doubtful we will score anymore. if we have to watch the crow magic this could turn ugly. We just don't match up well against Cleveland.


What do my eyes see!!! Lough!!!!

[kstater]

Bring in Pena

[SPchief]

DLough!

[petegz28]

Have you missed how Hoch has pitched this whole season?

Hoch coming in with runners on has not been his best moments of the season

[-King-]

Nice Lough.

[-King-]

Lough turns a double in to 3

Thought it was a triple all the way.

[SPchief]

sun and a dog's ass, broken clock and what not

Have you watched Hoch pitch at all this year? He's been money

[kstater]

sun and a dog's ass, broken clock and what not

5 ER since 1st of June.

[petegz28]

a flyball hitter in Escobar and you fucking squeeze bunt

[KCGal]

Who do you think Ned will put in to pitch the 8th?

[-King-]

I still don't understand why suicide squeezes aren't used more often.

[petegz28]

5 ER since 1st of June.

Does that include runners other pitchers put on?

[kstater]

w00t

[SPchief]

Clutchscobar!

[-King-]

ESCOBARRRRRR!

[stonedstooge]

ESKY IS CLUTCH. w00t

[ReynardMuldrake]

Woo hoo!

[-King-]

Does that include runners other pitchers put on?

How many games have you watched this year?

[kstater]

Does that include runners other pitchers put on?
Since June 1st
5 R
5 ER

[petegz28]

How many games have you watched this year?

Probably more than you but what's your point? All year the gig with Hoch is he did better starting an inning as opposed to coming in with runners on

[-King-]

Probably more than you but what's your point? All year the gig with Hoch is he did better starting an inning as opposed to coming in with runners on

He's come on in numerous high pressure situations and gotten out of it. You have a selective memory.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Does that include runners other pitchers put on?


5 runs (earned and unearned) allowed.

Pete fail.

[petegz28]

Since June 1st
5 R
5 ER

Link that stat, please. I would be curious to see that. Seems like he hasn't done well with runners on. I can remember this place fuming over Ned bringing him in with runners on.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Link that stat, please. I would be curious to see that. Seems like he hasn't done well with runners on. I can remember this place fuming over Ned bringing him in with runners on.

Also, on the year:

12R
12ER

Pete, your ass is talking.

[kstater]

Link that stat, please. I would be curious to see that. Seems like he hasn't done well with runners on. I can remember this place fuming over Ned bringing him in with runners on.

Shovel is gonna be dull soon.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/28643/luke-hochevar

DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Sep 7 vs DET W 4-3 1.2 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 21 6 - - H(5) 1.74
Sep 4 vs SEA L 6-4 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 9 2 - - - 1.79
Sep 3 vs SEA W 4-3 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 6 2 - W(4-2) - 1.81
Sep 1 @ TOR W 5-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 21 3 - - - 1.83
Monthly Totals 4.0 1 0 0 0 0 6 2 5 57 13 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Aug 30 @ TOR L 3-2 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 10 2 - - - 1.86
Aug 28 @ MIN W 8-1 1.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 17 4 - - H(4) 1.88
Aug 24 vs WSH L 7-2 3.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 6 40 10 - - - 1.93
Aug 22 vs CHW L 4-3 2.0 1 1 1 1 0 4 2 1 27 7 - L(3-2) - 2.04
Aug 20 vs CHW L 2-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 18 3 - - - 1.94
Aug 16 @ DET W 3-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - H(3) 1.98
Aug 14 vs MIA L 5-2 2.0 3 2 2 0 1 2 1 6 30 10 - - - 2.02
Aug 12 vs MIA W 6-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 13 4 - - - 1.72
Aug 10 vs BOS L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Aug 8 vs BOS W 5-1 1.1 2 1 1 0 0 0 2 3 15 5 - - Sv(2) 1.80
Aug 3 @ NYM W 4-3 0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 11 4 - - H(2) 1.65
Aug 1 @ MIN W 7-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 1 26 6 - - - 1.67
Monthly Totals 17.0 10 4 4 1 5 20 13 25 248 63 -- 0-1 1 sv 2.12
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jul 30 @ MIN W 7-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Jul 28 @ CHW W 4-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 1 22 6 - - - 1.80
Jul 26 @ CHW W 5-1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4 3 - - - 1.89
Jul 24 vs BAL W 4-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 20 4 - W(3-1) - 1.95
Jul 22 vs BAL L 9-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 16 4 - - - 2.00
Jul 20 vs DET W 6-5 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 1 - - H(1) 2.06
Jul 13 @ CLE L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 11 4 - - - 2.08
Jul 12 @ CLE L 3-0 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 1 - - - 2.14
Jul 8 @ NYY W 5-1 0.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 2 - - - 2.16
Jul 4 vs CLE W 10-7 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 15 3 - W(2-1) - 2.16
Jul 2 vs CLE L 6-5 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 2 26 7 - - - 2.23
Monthly Totals 10.2 5 0 0 0 3 11 10 16 159 40 -- 2-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jun 29 @ MIN L 6-2 2.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 3 1 30 7 - - - 2.37
Jun 26 vs ATL W 4-3 1.1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 18 5 - - BlSv(2) 2.54
Jun 23 vs CHW W 7-6 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 12 3 - W(1-1) - 2.67
Jun 19 @ CLE L 6-3 1.0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 3 17 5 - - - 2.77
Jun 15 @ TB L 5-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 13 4 - - - 2.52
Jun 12 vs DET W 3-2 1.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 13 5 - - - 2.63
Jun 6 vs MIN W 7-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - - 2.82
Jun 4 vs MIN L 3-0 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 15 3 - - - 2.95
Monthly Totals 9.2 4 1 1 1 3 10 9 13 134 35 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.93

[siberian khatru]

Link that stat, please. I would be curious to see that. Seems like he hasn't done well with runners on. I can remember this place fuming over Ned bringing him in with runners on.

That was early in the year when his trend as a starter was to fold with men on.

He's pitched well in relief in virtually every situation this year.

[-King-]

What the fuck is wrong with these fans?

[petegz28]

He's come on in numerous high pressure situations and gotten out of it. You have a selective memory.

Selective my ass..dude has allowed 12 runs this year. So 5 since June is great but 7 up til then shows why I ain't all that hot on him

[petegz28]

That was early in the year when his trend as a starter was to fold with men on.

He's pitched well in relief in virtually every situation this year.

Hoch was never a starter this year.

[huskerdooz]

Does that include runners other pitchers put on?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2013-reliever-pitching.shtml

Per Baseball Reference he's allowed 6 out of 26 inherited runners to score all year.

[siberian khatru]

Hoch was never a starter this year.

Reread what I wrote, carefully.

[-King-]

Selective my ass..dude has allowed 12 runs this year. So 5 since June is great but 7 up til then shows why I ain't all that hot on him

12 runs allowed in 63 innings is bad?

[SPchief]

Shovel is gonna be dull soon.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/28643/luke-hochevar

DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Sep 7 vs DET W 4-3 1.2 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 21 6 - - H(5) 1.74
Sep 4 vs SEA L 6-4 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 9 2 - - - 1.79
Sep 3 vs SEA W 4-3 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 6 2 - W(4-2) - 1.81
Sep 1 @ TOR W 5-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 21 3 - - - 1.83
Monthly Totals 4.0 1 0 0 0 0 6 2 5 57 13 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Aug 30 @ TOR L 3-2 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 10 2 - - - 1.86
Aug 28 @ MIN W 8-1 1.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 17 4 - - H(4) 1.88
Aug 24 vs WSH L 7-2 3.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 6 40 10 - - - 1.93
Aug 22 vs CHW L 4-3 2.0 1 1 1 1 0 4 2 1 27 7 - L(3-2) - 2.04
Aug 20 vs CHW L 2-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 18 3 - - - 1.94
Aug 16 @ DET W 3-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - H(3) 1.98
Aug 14 vs MIA L 5-2 2.0 3 2 2 0 1 2 1 6 30 10 - - - 2.02
Aug 12 vs MIA W 6-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 13 4 - - - 1.72
Aug 10 vs BOS L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Aug 8 vs BOS W 5-1 1.1 2 1 1 0 0 0 2 3 15 5 - - Sv(2) 1.80
Aug 3 @ NYM W 4-3 0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 11 4 - - H(2) 1.65
Aug 1 @ MIN W 7-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 1 26 6 - - - 1.67
Monthly Totals 17.0 10 4 4 1 5 20 13 25 248 63 -- 0-1 1 sv 2.12
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jul 30 @ MIN W 7-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Jul 28 @ CHW W 4-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 1 22 6 - - - 1.80
Jul 26 @ CHW W 5-1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4 3 - - - 1.89
Jul 24 vs BAL W 4-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 20 4 - W(3-1) - 1.95
Jul 22 vs BAL L 9-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 16 4 - - - 2.00
Jul 20 vs DET W 6-5 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 1 - - H(1) 2.06
Jul 13 @ CLE L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 11 4 - - - 2.08
Jul 12 @ CLE L 3-0 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 1 - - - 2.14
Jul 8 @ NYY W 5-1 0.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 2 - - - 2.16
Jul 4 vs CLE W 10-7 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 15 3 - W(2-1) - 2.16
Jul 2 vs CLE L 6-5 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 2 26 7 - - - 2.23
Monthly Totals 10.2 5 0 0 0 3 11 10 16 159 40 -- 2-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jun 29 @ MIN L 6-2 2.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 3 1 30 7 - - - 2.37
Jun 26 vs ATL W 4-3 1.1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 18 5 - - BlSv(2) 2.54
Jun 23 vs CHW W 7-6 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 12 3 - W(1-1) - 2.67
Jun 19 @ CLE L 6-3 1.0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 3 17 5 - - - 2.77
Jun 15 @ TB L 5-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 13 4 - - - 2.52
Jun 12 vs DET W 3-2 1.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 13 5 - - - 2.63
Jun 6 vs MIN W 7-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - - 2.82
Jun 4 vs MIN L 3-0 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 15 3 - - - 2.95
Monthly Totals 9.2 4 1 1 1 3 10 9 13 134 35 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.93

Could you format that for him and provide multiple links? He's clearly wrong, might as well show him

[petegz28]

Reread what I wrote, carefully.

You might reword that.

[petegz28]

12 runs allowed in 63 innings is bad?

Those are just runs he was charged with. If Collins put men on and Hoch came in and one scored, Hoch is not charged with that run.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Selective my ass..dude has allowed 12 runs this year. So 5 since June is great but 7 up til then shows why I ain't all that hot on him

.

[kstater]

Selective my ass..dude has allowed 12 runs this year. So 5 since June is great but 7 up til then shows why I ain't all that hot on him

Puts him behind only Holland of our regular bullpen. Keep digging.

[siberian khatru]

You might reword that.

Early in the year, before we knew what to expect out of him as a reliever, there was fear of how he would fare with men on base based on his history as a starter.

But as the year has unfolded, he has proved to be able to pitch effectively in virtually every situation.

Is that clear enough for you, motherfucker? :D

[KCGal]

Well anyways, does anyone have thoughts on who will pitch in the 8th?

[stonedstooge]

Well anyways, does anyone have thoughts on who will pitch in the 8th?

Maybe Hoch?

[KCGal]

Never mind

[kstater]

Yeesh taht was a free strike.

[petegz28]

Shovel is gonna be dull soon.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/28643/luke-hochevar

DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Sep 7 vs DET W 4-3 1.2 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 3 21 6 - - H(5) 1.74
Sep 4 vs SEA L 6-4 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 9 2 - - - 1.79
Sep 3 vs SEA W 4-3 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 6 2 - W(4-2) - 1.81
Sep 1 @ TOR W 5-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 21 3 - - - 1.83
Monthly Totals 4.0 1 0 0 0 0 6 2 5 57 13 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Aug 30 @ TOR L 3-2 0.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 10 2 - - - 1.86
Aug 28 @ MIN W 8-1 1.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 17 4 - - H(4) 1.88
Aug 24 vs WSH L 7-2 3.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 6 40 10 - - - 1.93
Aug 22 vs CHW L 4-3 2.0 1 1 1 1 0 4 2 1 27 7 - L(3-2) - 2.04
Aug 20 vs CHW L 2-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 18 3 - - - 1.94
Aug 16 @ DET W 3-0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - H(3) 1.98
Aug 14 vs MIA L 5-2 2.0 3 2 2 0 1 2 1 6 30 10 - - - 2.02
Aug 12 vs MIA W 6-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 13 4 - - - 1.72
Aug 10 vs BOS L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Aug 8 vs BOS W 5-1 1.1 2 1 1 0 0 0 2 3 15 5 - - Sv(2) 1.80
Aug 3 @ NYM W 4-3 0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3 11 4 - - H(2) 1.65
Aug 1 @ MIN W 7-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 2 1 26 6 - - - 1.67
Monthly Totals 17.0 10 4 4 1 5 20 13 25 248 63 -- 0-1 1 sv 2.12
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jul 30 @ MIN W 7-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 25 5 - - - 1.76
Jul 28 @ CHW W 4-2 2.0 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 1 22 6 - - - 1.80
Jul 26 @ CHW W 5-1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4 3 - - - 1.89
Jul 24 vs BAL W 4-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 20 4 - W(3-1) - 1.95
Jul 22 vs BAL L 9-2 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 16 4 - - - 2.00
Jul 20 vs DET W 6-5 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 6 1 - - H(1) 2.06
Jul 13 @ CLE L 5-3 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 11 4 - - - 2.08
Jul 12 @ CLE L 3-0 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 1 - - - 2.14
Jul 8 @ NYY W 5-1 0.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 2 - - - 2.16
Jul 4 vs CLE W 10-7 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 15 3 - W(2-1) - 2.16
Jul 2 vs CLE L 6-5 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 2 26 7 - - - 2.23
Monthly Totals 10.2 5 0 0 0 3 11 10 16 159 40 -- 2-0 0 sv 0.00
DATE OPPONENT RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB Pit BF GSc Dec. Rel. ERA
Jun 29 @ MIN L 6-2 2.0 1 0 0 0 0 3 3 1 30 7 - - - 2.37
Jun 26 vs ATL W 4-3 1.1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 3 18 5 - - BlSv(2) 2.54
Jun 23 vs CHW W 7-6 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 12 3 - W(1-1) - 2.67
Jun 19 @ CLE L 6-3 1.0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 3 17 5 - - - 2.77
Jun 15 @ TB L 5-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 13 4 - - - 2.52
Jun 12 vs DET W 3-2 1.2 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1 13 5 - - - 2.63
Jun 6 vs MIN W 7-3 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 16 3 - - - 2.82
Jun 4 vs MIN L 3-0 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 15 3 - - - 2.95
Monthly Totals 9.2 4 1 1 1 3 10 9 13 134 35 -- 1-0 0 sv 0.93

thanks... as I figured I don't think that counts runs that weren't charged to him that scored with him on the mound

[KCGal]

Maybe Hoch?

Phew. If Ned went with crow it was going to destroy me.

[-King-]

Those are just runs he was charged with. If Collins put men on and Hoch came in and one scored, Hoch is not charged with that run.

No, that includes unearned runs.

That stat was posted on the last page. He's allowed 6 inherited runs this season.

[Cephalic Trauma]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2013-reliever-pitching.shtml

Per Baseball Reference he's allowed 6 out of 26 inherited runners to score all year.

Good stat.

Pete, your rebuttal, please.

[-King-]

Why are these fans so annoying?

[kstater]

SIT YOUR ASS DOWN

[-King-]

Good stat.

Pete, your rebuttal, please.

Baseball reference might want to reword their stats.

[KevB]

They have no answer for that inside heat

[SPchief]

That inside strike is gonna get called all night, keep at it.

[C3HIEF3S]

Why are these fans so annoying?

Everything about the Indians annoys the fuck out of me.

[Prison Bitch]

Well anyways, does anyone have thoughts on who will pitch in the 8th?

Gotta get Crow warming up...

[stonedstooge]

Phew. If Ned went with crow it was going to destroy me.

He's done a little better this year with the pitching changes. Last year was like a nightmare over and over and over

[Cephalic Trauma]

Baseball reference might want to reword their stats.

ROFL

[SPchief]

thanks... as I figured I don't think that counts runs that weren't charged to him that scored with him on the mound

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/28643/luke-hochevar

26 inherited runners, 6 have scored

[petegz28]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2013-reliever-pitching.shtml

Per Baseball Reference he's allowed 6 out of 26 inherited runners to score all year.

Sweet site dude...thanks for that link. I like the way they lay out stats

[huskerdooz]

Good stat.

Pete, your rebuttal, please.

In addition ...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=hochelu01&t=p&year=2013

he's allowed 1 inherited runner to score since 26Jun2013

that's actually not too bad

[GloryDayz]

I'm here now folks, you can rest easy!

[-King-]

Sit down.

[kstater]

Dude he sucks. Those strikeouts need reworded

[Prison Bitch]

Luke gonna get PAID this offseason

[Ceej]

These Indians fans can woo on my dick.

[GloryDayz]

See, I'm like magic...

[SPchief]

In addition ...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=hochelu01&t=p&year=2013

he's allowed 1 inherited runner to score since 26Jun2013

that's actually not too bad

BUT BUT PETE SAYS HE'S NOT CLUCTCH. Is it because he's fat?

[GloryDayz]

OK, that kid doing the Macaraina is a fag!

[Shogun]

Clutch

[kstater]

SNAP

[-King-]

LMAO LMAO Nasty

[stonedstooge]

HOCH GETTING SOME SWAGGER! w00t

[siberian khatru]

LuKKKKKe Holland

[C3HIEF3S]

Just nasty. 5 batters, 5 k's.

[kstater]

Watch Ned leave him out there.

[-King-]

Dude he sucks. Those strikeouts need reworded

ROFLROFL

[petegz28]

Too bad dude couldn't stay away from the big inning. He would have been good in the rotation with that stuff.

[KCGal]

Oh no he didn't!

Whoooo!

I love seeing the batters swearing at themselves when they leave the plate.

[Toadkiller]

Luke just said, Fuck you Indians.

[SPchief]

LUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEE



5 batters, 5 K's

[HemiEd]

How do you like me now?/Papa Hoch :D

[GloryDayz]

OK, the "Woooooo" dude(s) are ****ing assholes!

[petegz28]

Ned says they had to execute better last night as he pulled a guy who was 2-3 for a guy who hasn't hit a SAC fly all year

[Cephalic Trauma]

Hoch will most likely give up a run if not a long ball

Hoch coming in with runners on has not been his best moments of the season

Too bad dude couldn't stay away from the big inning. He would have been good in the rotation with that stuff.

Love Pete. Dude doesn't even know how he feels or what to think at this point.

[kstater]

All 30 fans in attendance are annoying tonight.

[-King-]

Wow @ That guy's mustache.

[petegz28]

Love Pete. Dude doesn't even know how he feels or what to think at this point.

I know exactly how I feel. Hoch is an overpaid bust of a #1 pick that we are wasting almost $5mil on to pitch a whopping 10-15 innings a month.

Dude has great stuff but can't stay away from the big inning. Otherwise he wouldn't be our highest paid RELIEVER.

[stonedstooge]

Belly had a good night tonight. Hope he keeps it going.

[ChiefsCountry]

MOAR steals

[Great Expectations]

I hate it when they pr for Billay late like this.

I understand in a tie game, but not with 2 outs and a 3 run lead

[kstater]

I hate it when they pr for Billay late like this.

I understand in a tie game, but not with 2 outs and a 3 run lead

Billy ain't standing on 3rd right now

[petegz28]

I hate it when they pr for Billay late like this.

I understand in a tie game, but not with 2 outs and a 3 run lead

It's Ned Yost. The same coach that moved Gordon out of the leadoff spot and back to it 3 times this year only to figure out what we all said from the start of the season...we do better with him there than with him elsewhere

[SPchief]

I hate it when they pr for Billay late like this.

I understand in a tie game, but not with 2 outs and a 3 run lead

Would you rather him be on the basepath with the odds of him not hitting again?

[KevB]

I know exactly how I feel. Hoch is an overpaid bust of a #1 pick that we are wasting almost $5mil on to pitch a whopping 10-15 innings a month.

Dude has great stuff but can't stay away from the big inning. Otherwise he wouldn't be our highest paid RELIEVER.

Is this schtick?

The guy went from an abject failure to a very productive player on a hopeful playoff team. Given where we were with him to end last season, how can you not be positive about his success this year?

[Great Expectations]

Rays lose

[stonedstooge]

Rays lose

Kewl

[SPchief]

It's about to be 4 teams within 3 games.

[ChiefsCountry]

Let Dirty South do his thing and lets go win the series tomorrow.

[-King-]

Baltimore lost too so the loss last night didn't lose us any ground if we win today.

[petegz28]

Is this schtick?

The guy went from an abject failure to a very productive player on a hopeful playoff team. Given where we were with him to end last season, how can you not be positive about his success this year?

Yay!!! We got a #1 pick in the bullpen making $5mil. That's something to be proud of.

He was a #1 pick. Dude is not supposed to be in the pen. Nothing about that is successful from that aspect.

[Great Expectations]

Would you rather him be on the basepath with the odds of him not hitting again?

Yes, because the chance of Getz scoring from first with 2 outs aren't significantly better than Billay.

Getz stealing 2nd isn't automatically either. We have missed Billay's bat in extra innings too many times this year. It helps negate our bullpen advantage.

[Dartgod]

Whew!

[siberian khatru]

One pitch, one out

[SPchief]

Yes, because the chance of Getz scoring from first with 2 outs aren't significantly better than Billay.

Getz stealing 2nd isn't automatically either. We have missed Billay's bat in extra innings too many times this year. It helps negate our bullpen advantage.

The potential for a run is far greater than the potential of giving up 3 runs. It's baseball 101

[stonedstooge]

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[petegz28]

Now THAT was fucking nasty