Union Pacific's Last of the giant's

[LiveSteam]

http://www.geocities.ws/jd696/upst7.jpg

UP Locomotive number 2014 is on her way from Pomona California to Cheyenne Wyoming this week





By John M. Glionna

July 29, 2013, 1:23 p.m.

It has been called the last of the giant freight locomotives, a lumbering behemoth known as the “Big Boy 4014.” For half a century it has been on display at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona, drawing railroad buffs from around the nation.

Now the mammoth steam engine is about to take another trip -- to the vast plains of rural Wyoming.

Union Pacific Railroad officials recently announced that the company has reached an agreement to acquire the locomotive from the RailGiants Train Museum at the fairgrounds. The railroad said it plans to move the engine to maintenance shops in Cheyenne, where crews will try to get it back to running condition.

“We’re really excited about the acquisition of the 2014 Big Boy,” railroad spokesman Aaron Hunt told the Los Angeles Times, adding that Union Pacific will post updates about the move, planned for the near future. Updates will be posted on Twitter @RailGiants.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-union-pacific-big-boy-locomotive20130729,0,2255582.story#axzz2kqXe3buz


web cam for anyone that wants to watch
http://trn.trains.com/Union%20Pacific%20Big%20Boy/Webcam/2013/11/Big%20Boy%20Webcam.aspx

[notorious]

That's amazing.

[DaFace]

Holy shit - that pic is hosted at Geocities? That place is still around?

EDIT: Nevermind...looks like geocities.ws has nothing to do with the old geocities.com. The latter is now owned by Yahoo, which appears to have killed it long ago.

[LiveSteam]

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[Ace Gunner]

years ago, I flew out to Lake Tahoe just to watch an old steamer locomotive on it's run. that was really neat to see. watched it come over donner pass, across the mountainside near donner lake and then went to a lil town nearby called verdi to put a penny on the track and watch it go by from up close to the tracks.

[otherstar]

Very cool! I had a great uncle that used to work on those in Omaha.

[cosmo20002]

Livesteam like big boys.

[notorious]

The amount of energy it takes to move that much steel is unbelievable.


They did it with coal and steam.

[blaise]

They brought Big Boy No 4018 to a railroad museum a few miles from my house. They moved a RR museum from Dallas to Frisco, because I guess they ran out of funds and room in Dallas. I'm pretty psyched to have it so close.

[Rausch]

The amount of energy it takes to move that much steel is unbelievable.


They did it with coal and steam.

Nuclear plants run on steam...

[Ace Gunner]

I believe the one we are looking at here is a diesel/EMF model

[notorious]

Nuclear plants run on steam...

Don't steal my thunder. :D

[LiveSteam]

Livesteam like big boys.

Livesteam Loves livesteam. I dnt care what form it comes in. Small,big & everything in between.
Its hard to describe, what running steam is like. nothing else quite like it.
You do it by the seat of your pants. you feel a loco as its running,you smell it, & you listen to it,you watch the gauges all at the same time. & by doing this,it will tell you whats going on.

[Strongside]

We always think of the Bald Eagle, the Cheeseburger and Apple Pie being American...but nothing says America like a big, badass locomotive.

[BlackHelicopters]

Great American nostalgia

[Graystoke]

That is Cool!
BigBoy indeed.

[Rausch]

Great American nostalgia

The only thing 100% pure American...

[cosmo20002]

I dnt care what form it comes in. Small,big & everything in between.


You like to ride big boys and little boys? Really gets you off, huh?

[bowener]

With tender on behind, it weighs more than a fucking 747-8.

edit: by roughly 300,000 lbs.

[LiveSteam]

From Wikipedia
With tender 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)

Power type Steam
Reference:[1]
Builder American Locomotive Company
Build date 1941 (20), 1944 (5)
Total produced 25
Configuration 4-8-8-4
UIC classification (2′D)D2′ h4
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge
Leading wheel
diameter 36 in (914 mm)
Driver diameter 68 in (1,727 mm)
Trailing wheel
diameter 42 in (1,067 mm)
Wheelbase 72 ft 5.5 in (22.09 m)
Length Locomotive: 85 ft 3.4 in (25.99 m)
Overall: 132 ft 9 1⁄4 in (40.47 m)
Width 11 ft (3.4 m)
Height 16 ft 2 1⁄2 in (4.94 m)
Weight on drivers 540,000 lb (244,939.9 kilograms)
Locomotive weight 762,000 lb (345,637.4 kilograms)
Tender weight 342,200 lb (155,219.3 kilograms) (2/3 load)
Locomotive and tender
combined weight 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)
Fuel type Coal
Fuel capacity 28 short tons (25.4 t; 25.0 long tons)
Water capacity 25,000 US gal (95,000 l; 21,000 imp gal)
Boiler 95 in (2,400 mm)
Boiler pressure 300 lbf/in² (2.1 MPa)
Firegrate area 150 sq ft (14 m2)
Heating surface:
Tubes and flues 5,035 sq ft (468 m2)
Heating surface:
Firebox 720 sq ft (67 m2)
Heating surface:
Total 5,735 sq ft (533 m2)
Superheater type Type A
Superheater area 2,043 sq ft (190 m2)
Cylinders 4
Cylinder size 23.75 × 32 in (603 × 813 mm)
Top speed 80 mph (130 km/h)
Tractive effort 135,375 lbf (602.18 kN)
Factor of
adhesion 4.11
Career
Railroad(s) Union Pacific Railroad
Class 4000–4019: 4884-1
4020–4024: 4884-2
Last run July 21, 1959
Preserved 4004, 4005, 4006, 4012, 4014, 4017, 4018, 4023

[MOhillbilly]

My dad took me to the railroad museum in St. Louis when I was 15. Only vacation we ever took that wasn't on the river.
My great grandpa started on the Frisco and my cousins work for B & N.

My uncle put in over 40 years.

[Chief_For_Life58]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7hoNHhaqQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[LiveSteam]

You like to ride big boys and little boys? Really gets you off, huh?

Your just not funny Jay Carney. not now,not ever
The only one in this thread, that has been fucking Americans in the ass
IS YOU JAY

[LiveSteam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY7hoNHhaqQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

For the record that is not. I repeat NOT ME. I could give two fucks about diesel electric locomotives,but I wont. My fucks are worth much more

[Donger]

Nuclear plants run on steam...

Yes, but they don't move. Well, except for Fukushima...

[vailpass]

If I was "driving" that thing I'd sport club the entire trip...

[LiveSteam]

Tool & dye makers. Sad that they are a dying breed in this country.
I wounder how many hours it took this old-timer to build this 8th scale Big Boy? 15,000 hours?

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[Eleazar]

That thing is massive, pretty crazy. How cool that it's still rolling

[Dunerdr]

For the record that is not. I repeat NOT ME. I could give two ****s about diesel electric locomotives,but I wont. My ****s are worth much more

Ive got a cousin that re does old steam engines in the kc area you remind me alot of him. And your right theres nothing like being there and feeling a steam engine do its thing.

[LiveSteam]

Ive got a cousin that re does old steam engines in the kc area you remind me alot of him. And your right theres nothing like being there and feeling a steam engine do its thing.

Good chance I know him, or know of him

[ChiTown]

you're dead to me man :cuss:.
This country was built on the backs of the UP & Central pacific railroads.
Its one of the greatest stories ever told about this country

Was.

I have to deal with those mother fucking pirates all the time. There is nothing great about running a monopoly - nothing.

[Buehler445]

From Wikipedia
With tender 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)

Power type Steam
Reference:[1]
Builder American Locomotive Company
Build date 1941 (20), 1944 (5)
Total produced 25
Configuration 4-8-8-4
UIC classification (2′D)D2′ h4
Gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge
Leading wheel
diameter 36 in (914 mm)
Driver diameter 68 in (1,727 mm)
Trailing wheel
diameter 42 in (1,067 mm)
Wheelbase 72 ft 5.5 in (22.09 m)
Length Locomotive: 85 ft 3.4 in (25.99 m)
Overall: 132 ft 9 1⁄4 in (40.47 m)
Width 11 ft (3.4 m)
Height 16 ft 2 1⁄2 in (4.94 m)
Weight on drivers 540,000 lb (244,939.9 kilograms)
Locomotive weight 762,000 lb (345,637.4 kilograms)
Tender weight 342,200 lb (155,219.3 kilograms) (2/3 load)
Locomotive and tender
combined weight 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)
Fuel type Coal
Fuel capacity 28 short tons (25.4 t; 25.0 long tons)
Water capacity 25,000 US gal (95,000 l; 21,000 imp gal)
Boiler 95 in (2,400 mm)
Boiler pressure 300 lbf/in² (2.1 MPa)
Firegrate area 150 sq ft (14 m2)
Heating surface:
Tubes and flues 5,035 sq ft (468 m2)
Heating surface:
Firebox 720 sq ft (67 m2)
Heating surface:
Total 5,735 sq ft (533 m2)
Superheater type Type A
Superheater area 2,043 sq ft (190 m2)
Cylinders 4
Cylinder size 23.75 × 32 in (603 × 813 mm)
Top speed 80 mph (130 km/h)
Tractive effort 135,375 lbf (602.18 kN)
Factor of
adhesion 4.11
Career
Railroad(s) Union Pacific Railroad
Class 4000–4019: 4884-1
4020–4024: 4884-2
Last run July 21, 1959
Preserved 4004, 4005, 4006, 4012, 4014, 4017, 4018, 4023


It would go fucking 80? 1.25M lb going 80 MPH? Fuck that in the facehole.

[LiveSteam]

It would go fucking 80? 1.25M lb going 80 MPH? Fuck that in the facehole.

Railroads were maintained to a much higher standard back then.


Hell the UPs 4-8-4 eight-hundred class Northern's didnt hit they're power band until 85MPH they were easily capable of twice that even with a heavy train in tow
http://images.wikia.com/locomotive/images/4/40/UP_844.jpg

[Buehler445]

Railroads were maintained to a much higher standard back then.


Hell the UPs 4-8-4 Northern's didnt hit they're power band until 85MPH they were easily capable of twice that even with a heavy train in tow
http://images.wikia.com/locomotive/images/4/40/UP_844.jpg

That'd scare the fuckballs out of me. Hell an 85,000 lb truck is good enough for this fat man.

[LiveSteam]

Was.
WAS? We all still live off the backs of railroad men. dnt think for a second that we dont
I have to deal with those mother fucking pirates all the time. There is nothing great about running a monopoly - nothing.
WAS?. We all still live off the backs of railroad men & woman. Dont think for second that we dont
The Great Northern Railroad is another great story of American awesomeness

[LiveSteam]

grr

[TLO]

Very cool.

[Saulbadguy]

WAS?. We all still live off the backs of railroad men & woman. Dont think for second that we dont
The Great Northern Railroad is another great story of American awesomeness

Not really. Compared to the interstate system, it's not a big deal.

[LiveSteam]

Not really. Compared to the interstate system, it's not a big deal.

really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html

[Dave Lane]

Interesting UP passes my farm at about 3-400 yards be interesting to see it barrel down the highway. Any route map available?

[TIED5573]

Interesting UP passes my farm at about 3-400 yards be interesting to see it barrel down the highway. Any route map available?

www.uprr.com

Should be able to find a map there.


P.S November 12 started my 40th year as a railroader.


21 mos. to go.

[Baby Lee]

really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html

Good point, especially dragging all that low energy Buffalo Dung out of Wyoming every day.

Literally nearly 2 miles of dung rolling into a decent sized plant every day. 200 cars a day at 53' a car.

[Dayze]

that looks like the kind of train that could fuck shit up.

[Rain Man]

really? ya think those trucks & roads can keep Americas power plants supplied?
& thats just 1 aspect

The train-truck debate has been brewing as long as interstates connected major centers of commerce. While railroads reigned supreme for over one-hundred years going back to Abraham Lincoln’s time, trucks are an increasingly visible form of transporting goods over land. (Trains still transport more freight however.)
http://www.thezephyr.com/environ/trucktrain.html

I was at the Mississippi River near Hannibal a while back, and some signage there was touting barges as carrying way more than trucks and trains. I was quite surprised. I don't remember the numbers and if they were national or just some pro-barge subset. I'd like to see national tonnage numbers.

[LiveSteam]

Could be again . :D Not that it is steam .... but my first trip out to MO as a kid was on a train. We have a local steam train up in the hills that everyone born here is obliged to be taken to at least once. You might enjoy riding some of the steam trains we have out here LiveSteam . The redwoods are beautiful to see while riding on one of them.

I dont ride them. I run them, & at Gods speed to I might add :D.
I have chased UPs 844 & 3985 down HYW 30 all the way Cheyenne more times then I can count before my Pops passed away. Out west of North Platte they really open them up

[LiveSteam]

I was at the Mississippi River near Hannibal a while back, and some signage there was touting barges as carrying way more than trucks and trains. I was quite surprised. I don't remember the numbers and if they were national or just some pro-barge subset. I'd like to see national tonnage numbers.

I know they move huge amounts of grain by way of Missouri river to the gas refineries to blend ethanol

[Eleazar]

I dont know about volume, but there's no more fuel-efficient way to move cargo. Over land anyhow

[LiveSteam]

Sounds like a blast . So you work on steam train restoration ?

Back in 80s I helped restore this USRA 2-8-0 Consolidation. about 2 years after it was up & operating, the owner who swore he would never take it if we got it running,came & took it to NC & thats where it is running today
http://www.fremontrailroad.com/images/FEVR-1702--8-24-86--982-24.jpg

I spent a lot of time running both loco's at the Omaha zoo
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ikXVBlnr2z4/UDE9CzkqHsI/AAAAAAAAA_U/Y69aqmWmR_k/s1600/DSC_0955.JPG

http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/484/622/48462200_640.jpg


& then this was built by my father & has been maintained by me for the last 10 years
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/226288_1677685225581_5395778_n.jpg

[LiveSteam]

Lol. Cosmo Carney got banned from the choo choo thread. I owe someone a thank you















Thank you, whom ever you are?

[crossbow]

Back in the 40s a passenger engine broke down and stranded people in Denver that were destined for Kansas City. The railroad guys argued over whether or not an engine designed to pull coal out of the mountains could pull people. I know, a pound of humans vs. a pound of rocks. They gambled and hooked up the powerful steam engine...

It maintained a cruise speed of 110 mph while crossing the flat planes north of Omaha. Broke that companies time record. Go figure.

[suzzer99]

Pretty cool. I took the Durango – Silverton train a few years ago and will never forget it. It would be cool if they could get this thing running on some tourist line like that somewhere.

On a sidenote I'm getting ready to go on the Copper Canyon train in Mexico in a week, and I'm super pumped about it.

[LiveSteam]

If you like Durango go check out
Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad.
Its all part of whats left of the D&RG narrow gauge that ran through the Colorado san juan mountain range.
They are lot more hands on at Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad as far as the public is concerned. I have fired two different locos up through Windy Pass. You cant feed the coal fast enough.

In 1970, the states of Colorado and New Mexico jointly purchased the portion of the line from Antonito, Colorado to Chama, NM, along with much of the equipment that operated on the line. This section is the most scenic portion of the line, and a part that loops back and forth between the two states. The Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad Commission was created by an act of Congress as a bi-state entity to oversee the railroad

The coolest thing about CTSR is they have a steam operated rotary snow plow. & they use it
5.17 mark
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[Earthling]

years ago, I flew out to Lake Tahoe just to watch an old steamer locomotive on it's run. that was really neat to see. watched it come over donner pass, across the mountainside near donner lake and then went to a lil town nearby called verdi to put a penny on the track and watch it go by from up close to the tracks.

I wish you hadn't mentioned donner pass. Now I'm hungry...

[Baby Lee]

I wish you hadn't mentioned donner pass. Now I'm hungry...

Grill yourself up a foot. :thumb:

[Earthling]

Grill yourself up a foot. :thumb:

Long as it doesn't make me hack...

[Earthling]

I spent 6 monthes up in that area , and it was a cold and deep winter . Kissed the green grass when I finally split in February and got back down to sea level.

Wow! Heavy snow?

[ciaomichael]

The UP gets a lot of the glory, but it was the Santa Fe railway (Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe or ATS&F) that was most instrumental in development of the economy in the prairie, especially right around Kansas City. They did a lot of things, like recruiting a bunch of Mennonites from Russia to farm in Kansas. I remember riding one of their passenger trains, the "Super Chief" back in the 1960's when my grandfather was the conductor.

[LiveSteam]

The UP gets a lot of the glory, but it was the Santa Fe railway (Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe or ATS&F) that was most instrumental in development of the economy in the prairie, especially right around Kansas City. They did a lot of things, like recruiting a bunch of Mennonites from Russia to farm in Kansas. I remember riding one of their passenger trains, the "Super Chief" back in the 1960's when my grandfather was the conductor.

http://www.leclairerail.com/Baldwin/0505-5012-1937.jpg


http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/gregelmassian/Santa%20Fe%20Steam/2-10-4%20helper.jpg

[stevieray]

live... there is a guy running a train like your dads not too far from my house..every time i drive by i think of you and your dad.

[LiveSteam]

live... there is a guy running a train like your dads not too far from my house..every time i drive by i think of you and your dad.

you live around Lee Summit ? Pat McCarthy's railroad. Its real nice, & set up for running at night time. Its a very cool railroad when he turn the lights on at night

[Demonpenz]

Trains are lame as fuck. Any man who likes them running through a cave obviously wants to be fucked in the ass.

[LiveSteam]

Trains are lame as fuck. Any man who likes them running through a cave obviously wants to be fucked in the ass.

You wanted a Lionel & Santa brought you a Put Put train & a Barbie doll instead. I wish I could say I feel your pain weirdo. But I cant

[Demonpenz]

I got a teddy ruxben for christmas.

[stevieray]

you live around Lee Summit ? Pat McCarthy's railroad. Its real nice, & set up for running at night time. Its a very cool railroad when he turn the lights on at night



Wakounis..just a liitle east of Riverside!

[MOhillbilly]

Some times wild turkey can make you feel like that train looks.

[Dayze]

I blame global warming on theses locomotives

[go bo]

Your just not funny Jay Carney. not now,not ever
The only one in this thread, that has been ****ing Americans in the ass
IS YOU JAY

ooooh, sounds kinky... :p

[LiveSteam]

Wakounis..just a liitle east of Riverside!

Im not that familiar with KC. the 2 railroads i have been to are both in Pleasent Hill. Their are several others in the KC metro area

[MOhillbilly]

Steam tractors are also bitchin

[LiveSteam]

Some times wild turkey can make you feel like that train looks.

I soak coal in wild turkey to get it burning

[MOhillbilly]

I soak coal in wild turkey to get it burning

Make em mean?

[LiveSteam]

Steam tractors are also bitchin

We have a few old Case 75 horse & 1 Minneapolis we run.

you will like this vid. 90hr Case doing wheelies :doh!:
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[MOhillbilly]

They have steam powered tractor pulls at the show in republic. Better than the county fair IMO.

[LiveSteam]

I love me a good old thresh-en B.
We have our railroad on these fair grounds as well
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[LiveSteam]

They have steam powered tractor pulls at the show in republic. Better than the county fair IMO.

You need to come up to ours in July . 3rd weekend every year. camp out. its a lot of fun
Some of the best WWII & Korean war stories ever told. Were told to me out here as a young child by different vets sitting around the camp fire at night. Not so much anymore as most have pasted on. But back when I was a grade schooler, these stories always came at night around those camp fires by the men that were sent there.

[MOhillbilly]

You need to come up to ours in July . 3rd weekend every year. camp out. its a lot of fun

I don't get days off. They have a antique show in lathrop but I haven't gone yet.

[salame]

hay one time I rhode a train
go chuefs

[LiveSteam]

Some pics of Godshall Custom Locomotive works, & his machining shop

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1422487_618538068188544_1329875741_n.jpg

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http://https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/556860_618538851521799_849921390_n.jpg

[LiveSteam]

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[Bugeater]

Whoa, it's coming to the CWS?

[LiveSteam]

Just an update. The largest locomotive ever built. Is completely back together and her boiler was filled with in-house steam a few weeks back.
Her maiden run will be to Ogden Utah for the 150th anniversary of the Golden Spike. They will have 844 there as well and from what I'm hearing. Both locomotives will double head back to Cheyenne.

[LiveSteam]

Whoa, it's coming to the CWS?

I'm sure it'll make it down here sooner than later.