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Braincase
11-16-2013, 10:45 AM
From the "WTF is wrong with people" department.

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Winston-Salem State QB 'viciously' beaten by Virginia State players on eve of title game

Rudy Johnson, the starting quarterback for the Rams, was 'viciously beaten' by members of the Virginia State team, Winston-Salem State Chancellor Donald Reaves said in a statement. The conference announced that the title game set for Saturday has been canceled.

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Winston-Salem State quarterback Rudy Johnson was badly beaten during a luncheon for both teams on the eve of their conference championship game.



CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - A bathroom fight Friday among football players from Winston-Salem State and Virginia State during a CIAA championship game luncheon left the WSSU quarterback beaten and charges filed against a player from the other team.


The conference announced that the title game set for Saturday in Winston-Salem in North Carolina has been canceled.


Rudy Johnson, the starting quarterback for the Rams, was “viciously beaten” by members of the Virginia State team, Winston-Salem State Chancellor Donald Reaves said in a statement. He said one Virginia State player admitted his role in the beating.


School spokeswoman Nancy Young identified the suspect as 22-year-old Lamont Daniel Britt. A Forsyth County jail official says Britt, a running back from Portsmouth, Va., was being held there Friday night on a charge of misdemeanor assault inflicting serious injury.


“There is no excuse for the behavior of the Virginia State players,” Reaves said.


Young said Johnson was assaulted in the bathroom at the Anderson Conference Center on the Winston-Salem campus during the luncheon.
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Winston-Salem State quarterback Rudy Johnson enters a magistrate's office on Friday holding ice on his right eye.


“Today’s event was supposed to be a celebration for both teams and for all the players who were being recognized for an outstanding season,” Reaves said. “The actions from the Virginia State players certainly changed the outcome for everyone.”


Virginia State Athletic Director Peggy Davis didn’t return a phone call seeking comment, but the school issued a statement on its website saying it is fully cooperating with the CIAA in its investigation and couldn’t comment further.


Both Winston-Salem State Rams and Virginia State Trojans are 9-1. The Rams lost to Valdosta State in the NCAA Division II championship game last year, and both teams were in position to earn postseason berths this season.


The Winston-Salem Journal reported that five Virginia State players were involved and Reaves said university police are trying to identify the others.


One of Johnson’s teammates told the newspaper that “Rudy was beaten up bad and he can’t play.”


A photo taken of Johnson shows him holding ice over his right eye.
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Virginia State player Lamont Britt (r.) is escorted to a magistrate's office on Friday to face an assault charge.


CIAA Commissioner Jacqie Carpenter lamented the loss of the championship weekend. The conference consists of 12 historically black colleges and universities in Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Virginia.


“On the eve of such an important weekend for dozens of our student-athletes, many of whom have waited a lifetime for such a moment, we are left to focus instead on what might have been,” Carpenter said.


“But the CIAA has long had policies to encourage responsible behavior, and must consider what is necessary to assure days like today are not repeated, ever,” she said.


The conference volleyball championship, which also involved the two schools, was canceled as well.


Johnson, a 6-2, 205-pound junior from San Diego, moved into the starting lineup in the second game. He has completed 150 of 239 passes for 2,076 yards and 22 touchdowns with five interceptions in his nine games. He’s also the team’s second-leading rusher with 420 yards and six rushing scores.


Britt, a 5-foot-10, 205-pound sophomore, was Virginia State’s third-leading rusher with 276 yards and one touchdown on 63 carries. He also had seven catches for 78 yards on the year.


Winston-Salem State was trying to become the first team in two decades to win three straight CIAA championships, the last being Hampton from 1992-94. The Rams have won 24 straight games against CIAA opponents.
Virginia State and Winston-Salem State hadn’t played since 2003.

Whosurdaddy
11-16-2013, 10:47 AM
I thought this was a post about manning in a future AFC championship game.

Mr. Laz
11-16-2013, 10:50 AM
make them forfeit

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 10:52 AM
make them forfeit

I think that's where they're leaning. Whatever it is, this will be an important precedent. And it's exactly the reason I couldn't understand the people who weren't outraged by the bounty scandal.

Sorter
11-16-2013, 10:57 AM
Unfucking believable.

SAUTO
11-16-2013, 11:03 AM
I think that's where they're leaning. Whatever it is, this will be an important precedent. And it's exactly the reason I couldn't understand the people who weren't outraged by the bounty scandal.

The two aren't related in any way.

In the bounty scandal they were hitting then on the field in pads. With refs there to retain some control. With television cameras.


Not five guys kicking one guys ass in the pisser.
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WhiteWhale
11-16-2013, 11:37 AM
I think that's where they're leaning. Whatever it is, this will be an important precedent. And it's exactly the reason I couldn't understand the people who weren't outraged by the bounty scandal.

Huh?

What does a 5 on 1 beating of a player in a bathroom have to do with paying players for performance?

Did the NFL ever find actual proof the Saints were encouraging their players to injure people with illegal hits? That's right... they fined players for illegal hits.

Every coach in the NFL encourages defensive players to lay hard legal hits and fans all celebrate clean body rattling hits. You're just not supposed to pay players to do it.

crossbow
11-16-2013, 11:43 AM
make them forfeit

Yep.

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 11:45 AM
Ice pack on eye=viciously beaten.

Lol. Pussies.

ElGringo
11-16-2013, 12:08 PM
If what we are reading holds to be true, yes, a forfeit seems to be a fair punishment. The only caveat I give is there are 2 sides to every story and right now it seems like we are only hearing one side.

Rain Man
11-16-2013, 12:14 PM
I wonder where Manning lives.

vailpass
11-16-2013, 12:18 PM
Ice pack on eye=viciously beaten.

Lol. Pussies.

I was wondering about that too.
Don't get me wrong,5 on 1 is ghetto fun and those 5 suck.
But "viciously beaten"? Dude is still standing...

ThaVirus
11-16-2013, 12:25 PM
I wonder where Manning lives.

Heh. I laughed out loud.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-16-2013, 12:42 PM
Ice pack on eye=viciously beaten.

Lol. Pussies.

Read the article. He was injured to the extent that he can't play. But you're a poster on the internet, so I have no doubt that you'd be able to suck it up through the pain and throw for 400 yards, five TDs, force two fumbles and block a punt on special teams.

Reerun_KC
11-16-2013, 12:47 PM
Ice pack on eye=viciously beaten.

Lol. Pussies.

You go Billy badass

vailpass
11-16-2013, 12:56 PM
Read the article. He was injured to the extent that he can't play. But you're a poster on the internet, so I have no doubt that you'd be able to suck it up through the pain and throw for 400 yards, five TDs, force two fumbles and block a punt on special teams.

A black eye swollen half shut could prevent him from playing. Hardly qualifies as vicious though.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-16-2013, 01:03 PM
A black eye swollen half shut could prevent him from playing. Hardly qualifies as vicious though.

Anti-inflammatories and a corticosteroid would likely get him ready to play in that case. You're assuming the black eye is the extent of the injury. For all we know he has three broken ribs and bruised internal organs.

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 01:08 PM
The two aren't related in any way.

In the bounty scandal they were hitting then on the field in pads. With refs there to retain some control. With television cameras.


Not five guys kicking one guys ass in the pisser.
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Assault happens all the time. When you intentionally hurt somebody to gain a competitive advantage that's when different rules come to play. Of course this is a more extreme version. But taking other players out through intentionally extracurricular stuff is cheating. The only reason we are talking about forfeit is because it involved taking out a player.

vailpass
11-16-2013, 01:10 PM
Anti-inflammatories and a corticosteroid would likely get him ready to play in that case. You're assuming the black eye is the extent of the injury. For all we know he has three broken ribs and bruised internal organs.

Agreed, we don't know the specifics of the injury. The story didn't do a very good job there.

Ace Gunner
11-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Ice pack on eye=viciously beaten.

Lol. Pussies.

ban fists

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 01:23 PM
Read the article. He was injured to the extent that he can't play. But you're a poster on the internet, so I have no doubt that you'd be able to suck it up through the pain and throw for 400 yards, five TDs, force two fumbles and block a punt on special teams.

I get it.

He got hurt. He can't play. And its totally fucked up.

I have taken a vicious beating though.
And I have also gotten my ass whipped, which is what he got.

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 01:27 PM
Huh?

What does a 5 on 1 beating of a player in a bathroom have to do with paying players for performance?

Did the NFL ever find actual proof the Saints were encouraging their players to injure people with illegal hits? That's right... they fined players for illegal hits.

Every coach in the NFL encourages defensive players to lay hard legal hits and fans all celebrate clean body rattling hits. You're just not supposed to pay players to do it.

There is audio of Gregg Williams telling players to target specific injurable body parts. There were players yelling 'pay me my money' after knocking qbs out. Against Minnesota there were clear cheap shots against Brett favre.

And what happened? The integrity of the saints vikings game was compromised. We as fans deserved to watch Brett favre make or break the final drive. He had to get yanked because he was too injured to play. So no, I don't understand how that is much different. In both cases, they executed a strategy to intentionally injure the best player.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-16-2013, 01:27 PM
I get it.

He got hurt. He can't play. And its totally fucked up.

I have taken a vicious beating though.
And I have also gotten my ass whipped, which is what he got.

What are the extent of his injuries?

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 01:38 PM
What are the extent of his injuries?

A busted eye. Caused by one dude.

vicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9981615/five-virginia-state-players-beat-winston-salem-state-qb-rudy-johnson-day-game-according-report

Bugeater
11-16-2013, 01:41 PM
There is audio of Gregg Williams telling players to target specific injurable body parts. There were players yelling 'pay me my money' after knocking qbs out. Against Minnesota there were clear cheap shots against Brett favre.

And what happened? The integrity of the saints vikings game was compromised. We as fans deserved to watch Brett favre make or break the final drive. He had to get yanked because he was too injured to play. So no, I don't understand how that is much different. In both cases, they executed a strategy to intentionally injure the best player.
Huh? I seem to recall him being in and throwing one of his infamous game-ending INTs.

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 01:45 PM
Hey Hamas,
here's a vicious beating.:D
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Deberg_1990
11-16-2013, 01:53 PM
Wow, shades of Harding, Gillooly, Eckhardt vs. Nancy Kerrigan

Brock
11-16-2013, 01:54 PM
There is audio of Gregg Williams telling players to target specific injurable body parts. There were players yelling 'pay me my money' after knocking qbs out. Against Minnesota there were clear cheap shots against Brett favre.

And what happened? The integrity of the saints vikings game was compromised. We as fans deserved to watch Brett favre make or break the final drive. He had to get yanked because he was too injured to play. So no, I don't understand how that is much different. In both cases, they executed a strategy to intentionally injure the best player.

Bret did make or break the final drive. What are you babbling about?

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 02:05 PM
Huh? I seem to recall him being in and throwing one of his infamous game-ending INTs.

You're right. Could have sworn otherwise. In either event, he was pretty much a cripple at the end of the game. And it was largely because of some cheap shots.

I know people talk about pussification of the Nfl. I prefer seeing the best players on the field. When a guy gets knocked out even with a concussion, that cheapens the game for me.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-16-2013, 02:05 PM
A busted eye. Caused by one dude.

vicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9981615/five-virginia-state-players-beat-winston-salem-state-qb-rudy-johnson-day-game-according-report

Yup. He's definitely a pussy because a university administrator called it a vicious attack. Please, Ricky Roughnuts, break down the hierarchy of beatings since you're a street fighting expert.

What is the definition of vicious?

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 02:18 PM
Yup. He's definitely a pussy because a university administrator called it a vicious attack. Please, Ricky Roughnuts, break down the hierarchy of beatings since you're a street fighting expert.

What is the definition of vicious?

Not him, dude.

The guys that called it a vicious beating.

I think the kid is actually pretty tough. Had he not stood up for himself in that situation, he probably wouldn't have caught that ass whippin.

As for a vicious beating, I posted one for you. Doesn't need to result in death, but its more than a swollen eye.

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 02:23 PM
It's obviously subjective. So I concede.
I'm sure this is vicious to some.

It's not to me. Hence my pussy remark.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-16-2013, 02:33 PM
Vicious is what this Taco Bell is going to do to by colon.

beach tribe
11-16-2013, 02:38 PM
Vicious is what this Taco Bell is going to do to by colon.

ROFL

SAUTO
11-16-2013, 02:44 PM
A busted eye. Caused by one dude.

vicious.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9981615/five-virginia-state-players-beat-winston-salem-state-qb-rudy-johnson-day-game-according-report

Actually the next paragraph says one guy had admitted to it and the cops are trying to identify up to four other people involved in the beating
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SAUTO
11-16-2013, 02:46 PM
Assault happens all the time. When you intentionally hurt somebody to gain a competitive advantage that's when different rules come to play. Of course this is a more extreme version. But taking other players out through intentionally extracurricular stuff is cheating. The only reason we are talking about forfeit is because it involved taking out a player. if too can't see the difference between a cheap shot during a fucking game with pads and helmets and this situation you have a serious mental problem
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stonedstooge
11-16-2013, 03:01 PM
NWMSU Bearcats currently viciously beating up the Missouri Western Griffins 14 zip in the first quarter. w00t

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 03:33 PM
if too can't see the difference between a cheap shot during a ****ing game with pads and helmets and this situation you have a serious mental problem
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Both were players intentionally trying to injure the teams other player. And neither were just players being players. It's not like we are talking about players hitting people over competitively. We have players instructed and rewarded for taking a player out of the game.

Let me ask you this. What's stopping a coach from telling his player in a playoff game to helmet to helmet megatron . You may get fined but it will be worth it to we win?

I don't know how you fail to see the difference. Did you see the cheap shots favre took and how it messed up his ankle? You really think that was in the spirit of the game? It was obvious what the saints were trying to do. It was cheating. So is beating up the other teams QB.

jspchief
11-16-2013, 03:45 PM
So he got punched. How vicious.

KC Tattoo
11-16-2013, 03:59 PM
There is audio of Gregg Williams telling players to target specific injurable body parts. There were players yelling 'pay me my money' after knocking qbs out. Against Minnesota there were clear cheap shots against Brett favre.

And what happened? The integrity of the saints vikings game was compromised. We as fans deserved to watch Brett favre make or break the final drive. He had to get yanked because he was too injured to play. So no, I don't understand how that is much different. In both cases, they executed a strategy to intentionally injure the best player.




I saw an interview with Brett Frafravre that he basically said he liked the thought of teams putting a bounty on his head. It gave him an even bigger ego.

vailpass
11-16-2013, 04:19 PM
Yup. He's definitely a pussy because a university administrator called it a vicious attack. Please, Ricky Roughnuts, break down the hierarchy of beatings since you're a street fighting expert.

What is the definition of vicious?

When I hear "5 on 1 vicious beating" I picture the guy on the ground taking a 10 boot nazi stomping that leaves him bloody, battered and broken.
Clearly it's a subjective term, it just seems a bit over the top to me considering he just took a shot to the eye.

KC Tattoo
11-16-2013, 04:21 PM
Maybe the quarterback shouldn't have peed on their shoes in the bathroom?

Eleazar
11-16-2013, 04:34 PM
NWMSU Bearcats currently viciously beating up the Missouri Western Griffins 14 zip in the first quarter. w00t

WooWoo

displacedinMN
11-16-2013, 05:20 PM
NW close to wrapping that thing up.

Sounds like that game was called off. The NW commentators mentioned it.

chiefzilla1501
11-16-2013, 10:04 PM
I saw an interview with Brett Frafravre that he basically said he liked the thought of teams putting a bounty on his head. It gave him an even bigger ego.

Except he didn't know it happened until after it happened. There's no doubt that favre was a shell of himself I'm the 4th quarter. I am just saying that as much as people complain about being too harsh on big hits or excusing bounties, the issue with those is similar to the issue at Winston.

If you can't beat the other team, take their other player out. If you can't win a gold medal in figure skating, knee cap the favorite. Even with the Chiefs... This Sunday, one cheap shot to Peyton or to jamaal Charles could completely swing the game. A 15 yard penalty and a small fine is nothing if it knocks Peyton out and leads to a win.

It makes me cringe that one cheap shot has that much ability to completely change a teams chance of winning and potentially crush a teams season. Something to think about. I'll close with this. If is college beating was about beating up a backup QB, would a forfeit even be in the conversation? No. It's only in the conversation because the opponent sabotaged the game by taking out the most important player. It is the same damn thing when you try to sabotage a game by trying to cripple a QB extracurricular to normal football.

Iowanian
11-16-2013, 10:17 PM
Sounds like Curtis was slapped

Phobia
11-16-2013, 10:26 PM
Read the article. He was injured to the extent that he can't play. But you're a poster on the internet, so I have no doubt that you'd be able to suck it up through the pain and throw for 400 yards, five TDs, force two fumbles and block a punt on special teams.

I doubt I would block a punt.

salame
11-17-2013, 12:15 AM
hay high schuelers
Like Ylvis says
don be cruel
go chuefs!