810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

[Mojo Jojo]

Two people in custody.

[Rain Man]

Von Miller. You know he's involved.

[MMXcalibur]

Peyton Manning in custody?

[BigRichard]

So they have the case closed and everything already huh?

[In58men]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

[TinyEvel]

Kinda hoping it was Manning or Decker.

justsayin

[Phobia]

OMG. Horrific. I hope this is over something other than a football game.

[Rain Man]

Kinda hoping it was Manning or Decker.

justsayin

You think Von Miller had a disagreement with Manning or Decker?

[Ceej]

Was it Decker murdering Cooper again?

[FloridaMan88]

In related news Von Miller was driving Denver's team bus.

[ThaVirus]

Von Miller. You know he's involved.

You think Von Miller had a disagreement with Manning or Decker?

LMAO

[Rasputin]

Hope it was bronco on bronco hate.



fucking 49ers fans must be involved.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

My gosh. WTF is wrong with people

[eDave]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Homicide in parking lot at Arrowhead. 2 in custody. No info on them or victim or their fan affiliation. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ridiculous&amp;src=hash">#ridiculous</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ItsAGame&amp;src=hash">#ItsAGame</a></p>&mdash; Eric Burke (@Fox4eb) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fox4eb/statuses/407316807842684928">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Deberg_1990]

Is that what Knowshon was crying about?

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

Yup that'll solve everything.

:shake:

[Demonpenz]

Williams and belcher

[stonedstooge]

Did someone have a hit out on Clay?

[In58men]

Yup that'll solve everything.

:shake:

It will once Bray is under center.

[Marcellus]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

WWW.karmaisabitchwhenyouarestupidlikeyou.com (http://WWW.karmaisabitchwhenyouareretarded.com)

[cosmo20002]

I thought I was going to witness a murder walking out of the Chargers game last week. The truth is a good portion of the people who go to NFL games are fucking morons.

[texaschiefsfan]

I bet a Bronco murdered a Chief. I'll also bet a bunch of Chiefs stood around watching and did nothing.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

It will once Bray is under center.

Kill off our best player the last 2 weeks.

Not only are you stupid, you're sick.

[ChiefsSuckBalls]

It's just a game chief fans. Jeez.

[Rain Man]

WWW.karmaisabitchwhenyouareretarded.com

It seems like karma should help retarded people. They should be winning lotteries and stuff.

[gosampel]

My gosh. WTF is wrong with people

yah that's terrible, I bet drinking was involved

[eDave]

I thought I was going to witness a murder walking out of the Chargers game last week. The truth is a good portion of the people who go to NFL games are ****ing morons.

In general. Ever been to a hockey game or Nascar race? It's gets worse as you go down. Monster truck pulls and wrestling: Shutter.

[Eleazar]

I'm guessing it was a fight and the person who went down never got up.

[cosmo20002]

In general. Ever been to a hockey game or Nascar race? It's gets worse as you go down. Monster truck pulls and wrestling: Shutter.

A couple NHL games, but they were in California. They don't really get too intense about hockey there, but I imagine you're right.

[eDave]

I'm guessing it was a fight and the person who went down never got up.

Bronco fan mouthing off and got killed for it, presumably.

[tredadda]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

Go away with your Alex Smith hate. If you can't grasp that this loss was not on him then you really need to rewatch the game.

[Marcellus]

It seems like karma should help retarded people. They should be winning lotteries and stuff.

Shit, that is a very valid point. I will retract.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Did Johnny Football jump off the upper deck?

[arrowheadnation]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

Kinda hoping it was Manning or Decker.

justsayin

For the love of God. Step away from the computer and the TV and spend some time with some loved ones. I know you don't mean this, but wow....priorities people.

[Brock]

Late games at arrowhead. Always a treat.

[Saul Good]

It seems like karma should help retarded people. They should be winning lotteries and stuff.

Pretty much everyone who plays the lottery is functionally retarded, so you may be onto something.

[ROYC75]

Some of you people need to get a life, seriously!

[HonestChieffan]

Fucking idiots.

[King_Chief_Fan]

I bet a Bronco murdered a Chief. I'll also bet a bunch of Chiefs stood around watching and did nothing.
I noticed that Manning killed 11 guys today....repeatedly

[Phobia]

Pretty much everyone who plays the lottery is functionally retarded, so you may be onto something.

Everybody? I spend about $6 a year. I can afford that. I realize I'm pissing my money away. I'm not smart but I don't think I'm retarded.

[SLAG]

At mass today the Priest in the sermon said " Someone could die today at arrowhead..."

[Pooch]

Heard on Facebook it may have happened during the game and theft was involved!! Not a reliable source but I sure hope it it wasn't over the game!! Anyone hearing anything like this?

[BryanBusby]

Exactly one year after Belcher shot himself dead at Arrowhead.

Freaky

[KCUnited]

5 hour tailgates about to get murdered in the offseason.

[Sassy Squatch]

Heard on Facebook it may have happened during the game and theft was involved!! Not a reliable source but I sure hope it it wasn't over the game!! Anyone hearing anything like this?
Because Facebook is a reliable source and all.

[a pp roach]

Exactly one year after Belcher shot himself dead at Arrowhead.

Freaky

festive

[Mojo Jojo]

OMG...reading this thread and it seems Chiefs fans have stooped to the level of Raiders and Eagles fans. Have some class...someone died.

[texaschiefsfan]

OMG...reading this thread and it seems Chiefs fans have stooped to the level of Raiders and Eagles fans. Have some class...someone died.

People die all the time. We all die. Hate to break it to you like this.

[a pp roach]

OMG...reading this thread and it seems Chiefs fans have stooped to the level of Raiders and Eagles fans. Have some class...someone died.

careful with that sensible stuff around here. might get called a pussy.

[Stanley Nickels]

Because Facebook is a reliable source and all.

He actually mentioned that exact point in his post.

[Rain Man]

Everybody? I spend about $6 a year. I can afford that. I realize I'm pissing my money away. I'm not smart but I don't think I'm retarded.

Don't knock it. You get good karma.

I spend probably $50 a year on powerball tickets. At some point, the odds say that I'll win. I just have to live long enough.

[GloryDayz]

:facepalm:

[digger]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.

[cosmo20002]

People die all the time. We all die. Hate to break it to you like this.

:spock:

[Rain Man]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.

Oh.




Well, that took all the fun out of it. That's terrible.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.

That sucks

[DJJasonp]

I pray this isnt a fan/opposing fan thing.

The national media will jump all over this (and rightfully so).

EDIT: looks like it was a dirtbag thief.

[The Franchise]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.

WTF

[Sassy Squatch]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.
Damn.

[Deberg_1990]

Was this in an Arrowhead lot or one of the crackhead lots across the street?

[tecumseh]

Don't try to handle crime on your own. Get on the phone and call the police. Few people are equiped to handle perps.

[Sassy Squatch]

Thats awful for the son. Presumably watching his dad die.

[Prison Bitch]

We just celebrated my youngest son's 1st birthday yesterday. I told him I'd take him to Chiefs games in just a few years. That update just made me physically ill to read.

[hometeam]

Now it says thief died

[RaiderH8r]

I bet a Bronco murdered a Chief. I'll also bet a bunch of Chiefs stood around watching and did nothing.

While Manning and Decker did kill Cooper's career in front of thousands of Chiefs fans tonight I think this event refers to an actual homicide.

[BlackHelicopters]

Just a game folks. The sun will come up tomorrow

[Ceej]

We just celebrated my youngest son's 1st birthday yesterday. I told him I'd take him to Chiefs games in just a few years. That update just made me physically ill to read.

His name is Perry, right?

[cosmo20002]

HOMICIDE UPDATE:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a disturbance broke out. The father apparently died during the fight.

I don't know why they say "the vehicle." We all know it was a Camaro, so they should just say that.

[texaschiefsfan]

Don't try to handle crime on your own. Get on the phone and call the police. Few people are equiped to handle perps.

Yeah, call the cops so they can come and hide behind some cars until the guy gets away.

[Marcellus]

We just celebrated my youngest son's 1st birthday yesterday. I told him I'd take him to Chiefs games in just a few years. That update just made me physically ill to read.

Then you need to change your fucking stupid user name because people see it and think prison trash just like the guy who killed the guy outside Arrowhead.

[Rain Man]

Now it says thief died

Let's hope. That would be the only good thing coming out of today's show.

[Stinger]

Struggle at Arrowhead Stadium during game leaves 1 man dead
Posted: Dec 01, 2013 7:11 PM CST Updated: Dec 01, 2013 7:51 PM CST
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager - email
KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

A man is dead following a struggle in an Arrowhead Stadium parking as the Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos played each other.

Kansas City police Chief Darryl Forte called it a homicide in a tweet. Other police officials called it a death investigation.

Police officials said the struggle occurred in Lot A during the game. The man was rushed to an area hospital where he died.

Forte said two suspects are in custody.

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

Police officials did not say whether the two in custody were the father and his son or not.

This occurred exactly one year after Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, the mother of his infant daughter, and then drove to Arrowhead where he killed himself in front of horrified team leaders.

KCTV5 is gathering more information. Refresh this page for updates.

Copyright 2013 KCTV (Meredith Corp.) All rights reserved.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Bugeater]

Well we know it wasn't anyone from CP because they would've blown the perp away.

[Mojo Jojo]

Was this in an Arrowhead lot or one of the crackhead lots across the street?

Lot A

[Raiderhater]

Now it says thief died

That would be wonderful if true.

[BigRedChief]

People die all the time. We all die. Hate to break it to you like this.A son went with his father to a Chiefs game. They came back to their car and it was being robbed. Son gets to watch his father die in front of him. Or watch his dad kill someone. Either way......

Posting humorus shit has left this thread.

[Prison Bitch]

His name is Perry, right?

Sagarin.


Full name: Sagarin Ratings Bitch.

[Sassy Squatch]

Struggle at Arrowhead Stadium during game leaves 1 man dead
Posted: Dec 01, 2013 7:11 PM CST Updated: Dec 01, 2013 7:51 PM CST
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager - email
KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

A man is dead following a struggle in an Arrowhead Stadium parking as the Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos played each other.

Kansas City police Chief Darryl Forte called it a homicide in a tweet. Other police officials called it a death investigation.

Police officials said the struggle occurred in Lot A during the game. The man was rushed to an area hospital where he died.

Forte said two suspects are in custody.

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

Police officials did not say whether the two in custody were the father and his son or not.

This occurred exactly one year after Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, the mother of his infant daughter, and then drove to Arrowhead where he killed himself in front of horrified team leaders.

KCTV5 is gathering more information. Refresh this page for updates.

Copyright 2013 KCTV (Meredith Corp.) All rights reserved.
Posted via Mobile Device
Oh yeah. Forgot about that whole 2 suspect thing. Must be the father and son beat down combo.

[Rain Man]

Struggle at Arrowhead Stadium during game leaves 1 man dead
Posted: Dec 01, 2013 7:11 PM CST Updated: Dec 01, 2013 7:51 PM CST
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager - email
KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

A man is dead following a struggle in an Arrowhead Stadium parking as the Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos played each other.

Kansas City police Chief Darryl Forte called it a homicide in a tweet. Other police officials called it a death investigation.

Police officials said the struggle occurred in Lot A during the game. The man was rushed to an area hospital where he died.

Forte said two suspects are in custody.

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

Police officials did not say whether the two in custody were the father and his son or not.

This occurred exactly one year after Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, the mother of his infant daughter, and then drove to Arrowhead where he killed himself in front of horrified team leaders.

KCTV5 is gathering more information. Refresh this page for updates.

Copyright 2013 KCTV (Meredith Corp.) All rights reserved.
Posted via Mobile Device


Excellent. I hope they give season tickets to the father and son.

[Bugeater]

A son went with his father to a Chiefs game. They came back to their car and it was being robbed. Son gets to watch his father die in front of him

Posting humorus shit has left this thread.
Now they're saying the thief died, SO BREAK OUT THE JOKEZZZZ

[KCUnited]

Hoping it was Cooper looking for his jock.

[Rain Man]

Now they're saying the thief died, SO BREAK OUT THE JOKEZZZZ

Why did the Chiefs fans cross the road?

To kill a criminal.

[The Bad Guy]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

You're a vile sack of shit.

[cosmo20002]

Who goes to their car during the game? I guess some people go at halftime to drink?

[Raiderhater]

Excellent. I hope they give season tickets to the father and son.

This.

[Pablo]

Now they're saying the thief died, SO BREAK OUT THE JOKEZZZZYEAH FUCK YEAH

SOMEBODY DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL AND SHITTY DIED SO I FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT A DEATH AT ARROWHEAD!!!

Woot bitches.

[Eleazar]

I've heard about lowlives breaking into cars in the parking lot during the games

[digger]

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

[Bugeater]

Who goes to their car during the game? I guess some people go at halftime to drink?
You can't re-enter the stadium if you leave.

[Eleazar]

Who goes to their car during the game? I guess some people go at halftime to drink?

I don't know, you can't go back in though

[ThaVirus]

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

Thanks for the update.

Can we expect more 5 minute-late news from you in the future?

[Prison Bitch]

Then you need to change your ****ing stupid user name because people see it and think prison trash just like the guy who killed the guy outside Arrowhead.

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/p_mcclellan/Fark/You%20Mad/fc85535_oh_he_mad.jpg

[BigBeauford]

The jokes are sickening. I would understand if this were girls getting their feet sliced off on an amusement park ride.

[Bugeater]

Thanks for the update.

Can we expect more 5 minute-late news from you in the future?
THIS JUST IN:

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Was it Clay stealing Gifs?

[Pablo]

WHYD THEY ARREST THE CAR OWNER????

YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYONE BREAKING INTO YOUR CAR.

[Raiderhater]

WHYD THEY ARREST THE CAR OWNER????

YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYONE BREAKING INTO YOUR CAR.

Actually, you should. F#ck a thief.

[cosmo20002]

Lot A

They walked all the way out to Lot A during the game? Just seems odd is all.

[Eleazar]

We really don't know what happened, it could have been a self defense situation or who the hell knows.

That is one unlucky ass thief. Of all the cars in the lot, he breaks into the one that the owners come out to during the game.

[Pablo]

Actually, you should. **** a thief.LMAO

This is the response I was waiting for.

[cosmo20002]

You can't re-enter the stadium if you leave.

I don't know, you can't go back in though

Says they went to their car during the game. I guess it could mean they left early.

[JoeyChuckles]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

We found the guy that cheered when Cassel went down. Mission accomplished.

[Rain Man]

Who goes to their car during the game? I guess some people go at halftime to drink?

Maybe they realized that the league was planning to hand the game to Manning, and decided to go do something else with their lives. Like maybe...fight crime.

[Eleazar]

I really don't think many people are going to have sympathy for some thief who got beaten down.

[cosmo20002]

I really don't think many people are going to have sympathy for some thief who got beaten down.

Maybe it wuz a repo man.

[Raiderhater]

LMAO

This is the response I was waiting for.

Anyone who doesn't have that response has some kind of issue. You get up and go to work every day and EARN your possessions and some asshole thinks it is ok to just come and take it instead of going through the same hard work to get his/her own? F#ck that shit.

[Bambi]

I really don't think many people are going to have sympathy for some thief who got beaten down.

Because it's a human life. We aren't meant to live like savages. JFC

[Marcellus]

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/p_mcclellan/Fark/You%20Mad/fc85535_oh_he_mad.jpg

WTF would I be mad you have a dumb user name? I am just trying to help you out. Think about that.

[Tanner21]

WHYD THEY ARREST THE CAR OWNER????

YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYONE BREAKING INTO YOUR CAR.

I don't know about there, but here in Ohio it is completely legal kill a car or house intruder.

[eDave]

Maybe it wuz a repo man.

I've been repo'd. I knew exactly who he was.

[Bambi]

Anyone who doesn't have that response has some kind of issue. You get up and go to work every day and EARN your possessions and some asshole thinks it is ok to just come and take it instead of going through the same hard work to get his/her own? **** that shit.

You believe all people who steal should be put to death?

Or at a minimum death is a suitable result of people in the act of stealing something?

You truly think that?

[Raiderhater]

Because it's a human life. We aren't meant to live like savages. JFC

LMAO WTF was the supposed thief doing? Being a humanitarian?

[Eleazar]

Because it's a human life. We aren't meant to live like savages. JFC

Obviously that is true. But if you get killed in the process of committing a crime, people aren't going to be inclined to feel sorry for you.

[Sassy Squatch]

I've been repo'd. I knew exactly who he was.
Did he died?

[Raiderhater]

You believe all people who steal should be put to death?

Or at a minimum death is a suitable result of people in the act of stealing something?

You truly think that?

I didn't say that. I have zero problems if that is the out come though.

[bowener]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

Why exactly? Because he couldn't run down and catch his own passes?

[Sassy Squatch]

Bambi with a poor trolling attempt. Someone will take the bait though.

[Brock]

You believe all people who steal should be put to death?

Or at a minimum death is a suitable result of people in the act of stealing something?

You truly think that?

What's one thief more or less?

[tooge]

We had a dead battery and got assistance from a fan assistance vehicle. He told us good thing we weren't in A lot because it was shut off as a homocide scene. Horrible

[Simply Red]

Ban cars and Parking lots.

[Raiderhater]

What's one thief more or less?

Apparently a lot.

[Bambi]

Obviously that is true. But if you get killed in the process of committing a crime, people aren't going to be inclined to feel sorry for you.

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

[Raiderhater]

Ban cars and Parking lots.

Ban Chiefs games.

[Pablo]

Anyone who doesn't have that response has some kind of issue. You get up and go to work every day and EARN your possessions and some asshole thinks it is ok to just come and take it instead of going through the same hard work to get his/her own? **** that shit.It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my insurance.

[Phobia]

You believe all people who steal should be put to death?

Or at a minimum death is a suitable result of people in the act of stealing something?

You truly think that?

I don't think they should die but I think their feet should be chopped off in a horrific roller coaster accident.

[stonedstooge]

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

LMAO

[Bambi]

What's one thief more or less?

You've never committed a crime in your life? Would you like you life to be taken in the same dismissed tone as you've just done with this man's?

I'm not saying this was a good guy or anything but have some fucking decency.

[Eleazar]

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

It could have been anything. They confront thief, thief attacks them, dad lays him out with one punch. Thief hits his head and never gets up.

Or it could be a couple of drunken rednecks beat somebody to death when they could have just beaten him almost to death.

I bet there weren't any other people around, so I doubt we'll ever know.

[Raiderhater]

It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my auto insurance.

Actively searching for them? According to current reports they found him IN the car. You make it sound like he was hunted down The Searchers style.

[Rain Man]

It's not "feeling sorry for anyone". It's trying to protect a civilized society that we've spent the better part of 500 years trying to move away from.

I'll allow the facts to be collected but this sounds like the "father/son" may be a bit more at fault due simply to the fact that they beat a man to death 2 on 1.

If it's a 1 on 1 situation I think that's completely different. But let's see.

If it's a 1 on 1 beating of a thief it's okay, but not 2 on 1? I would think that 2 on 1 is more civilized because it shows an ability to cooperate with other people and build alliances.

[Hammock Parties]

Did someone have a hit out on Clay?

LMAO

Manning put a hit out on my heart.

[Pablo]

Actively searching for them? According to current reports they found him IN the car. You make it sound like he was hunted down The Searchers style.I'm just letting you know the amount of outrage I had in my own personal situation. I didn't walk up on somebody breaking into my car.

[Rain Man]

It could have been anything. They confront thief, thief attacks them, dad lays him out with one punch. Thief hits his head and never gets up.

Or it could be a couple of drunken rednecks beat somebody to death when they could have just beaten him almost to death.

I bet there weren't any other people around, so I doubt we'll ever know.

I bet they have cameras in the parking lots, so I suspect we'll know the full story soon.

[Brock]

You've never committed a crime in your life? Would you like you life to be taken in the same dismissed tone as you've just done with this man's?

I'm not saying this was a good guy or anything but have some fucking decency.

Breaking into someone's home or vehicle is dangerous. If you getcaught sometimes you get killed. All in the game yo.

[Prison Bitch]

It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my insurance.


But this story is quite different. If they confronted the man inside their car, they MUST assume he's dangerous and they MUST protect themselves. It's dark out there and nobody is around, how do they know he isn't armed?


Nobody should shoot someone walking out of your backyard with your step ladder, but this seems dangerous.

[BWillie]

WHYD THEY ARREST THE CAR OWNER????

YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYONE BREAKING INTO YOUR CAR.

Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. Doesnt warrant killing the guy, at all. Especially, especially when its far far away from your home. Not going to rush to judgment, the car owner could have defended himself or the fight went overboard but tobsay its just ok to kill someone cuz they broke into your car is definitely not ok.

[Raiderhater]

If it's a 1 on 1 beating of a thief it's okay, but not 2 on 1? I would think that 2 on 1 is more civilized because it shows an ability to cooperate with other people and build alliances.

LMAO

[splatbass]

It will once Bray is under center.

You have to be the dumbest guy on this board. And that is saying something.

[Demonpenz]

I once borrowed my dad's astrovan. I was banging a really fatty. I mean she was fucking fat. Anyway the side door slid open because we delivered flowers in our off hours sometimes and I kept banging away...the sliding door caught a piece of her fat and she squeeled like a pig. I came in Rhino Pro bowling rag and we went back to Shoney's.

[Eleazar]

It's not really much different from breaking into a house. You know before you commit the crime there's a percentage chance it could end badly. It's an assumption of the risk.

[Demonpenz]

I bet they have cameras in the parking lots, so I suspect we'll know the full story soon.

you know the lights got stolen out of arrowheads parking lot.

[Raiderhater]

I'm just letting you know the amount of outrage I had in my own personal situation. I didn't walk up on somebody breaking into my car.

So then why so quick to judge a situation where people did.

[Pablo]

But this story is quite different. If they confronted the man inside their car, they MUST assume he's dangerous and they MUST protect themselves. It's dark out there and nobody is around, how do they know he isn't armed?


Nobody should shoot someone walking out of your backyard with your step ladder, but this seems dangerous.I'm actually quite sure we don't know the full story yet.

The thief could have gotten violent and attacked the guy, or this guy could have went apeshit on the dude when it wasn't warranted.

[Rain Man]

Breaking into someone's home or vehicle is dangerous. If you getcaught sometimes you get killed. All in the game yo.

Thievery is an inherently dangerous profession, and there are no OSHA guidelines at all.

[stonedstooge]

I once borrowed my dad's astrovan. I was banging a really fatty. I mean she was ****ing fat. Anyway the side door slid open because we delivered flowers in our off hours sometimes and I kept banging away...the sliding door caught a piece of her fat and she squeeled like a pig. I came in Rhino Pro bowling rag and we went back to Shoney's.

LMAO Get back on your meds.

[Jimmya]

The liberals are out........"it's not ok to kill someone stealing" lol...let me know where you live please.

[Pablo]

So then why so quick to judge a situation where people did.I was actually judging your blanket statement where you said you should be able to kill anyone you catch breaking into your vehicle.

That's what I found funny.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Wowa.

Me and my buddies walked by the crime scene by the charter buses and joked someone got offed.

Whoops...pretty creepy.

[Bwana]

Hmmm? If you don't go around being a lowlife drag on society and stealing shit that doesn't belong to you, your risk of getting your ass kicked (or worse) goes down substantially.

[BWillie]

It's not really much different from breaking into a house. You know before you commit the crime there's a percentage chance it could end badly. It's an assumption of the risk.

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

[JoeyChuckles]

Nothing like a little homicide to put a loss in perspective.

[Rain Man]

Nothing like a little homicide to put a loss in perspective.

I'll be honest. Since it was the criminal who died, I'm much more bothered by the loss.

[Raiderhater]

I was actually judging your blanket statement where you said you should be able to kill anyone you catch breaking into your vehicle.

That's what I found funny.

I don't find it funny at all. One of the issues that drove the creation of this country was personal property. If we can not defend that which we work to own and/or create, how long before we cannot defend ourselves (and there are plenty of people who already would like to have that taken away)? The right to legally own property has always been a key principal in this nation, for a reason.

[BWillie]

The liberals are out........"it's not ok to kill someone stealing" lol...let me know where you live please.

Im not a liberal at all, but some ppl on CP are boarderline psychopaths. I've heard ppl on here brag about how they cant wait to see someone rummaging thru their shed so they can blow someones brains out. Same thing with breaking into your car. That is why I was so outraged at the Joe Horn case (where next store neighbor shoots guy that was leaving next store neighbors unoccupied house and got away w it)

[redfan]

Instant karma's gonna get you?

[Eleazar]

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

Not really. If I walk up on someone in the act of committing a crime in a dark parking lot, I have no idea how they intend to deal with the fact that I am now a witness.

[Saul Good]

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

You might be if they are in your car when you get there.

[Raiderhater]

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

So, you are in no I men treat if you walk up to your unoccupied house with a thief in it? GTFO

[tooge]

I was told by the fan assistance guy that a stabbing was involved. FWIW

[Jimmya]

Here in texas we can protect our personal property with our guns. If you're dumb enough to risk it, you should be aware of the consequences.

[cosmo20002]

Thievery is an inherently dangerous profession, and there are no OSHA guidelines at all.

Thanks, Obama.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

It could have been some drunk guy trying to free the rest of the cat from some MIZZU fan's trunk.

[Demonpenz]

Here in texas we can protect our personal property with our guns. If you're dumb enough to risk it, you should be aware of the consequences.

Also you have to a fiddle in your band.

[Eleazar]

Instant karma's gonna get you?

I doubt this was a case of instant karma. This person's probably got a rap sheet and has been getting away with it for a long time before this.

[BWillie]

I don't find it funny at all. One of the issues that drove the creation of this country was personal property. If we can not defend that which we work to own and/or create, how long before we cannot defend ourselves (and there are plenty of people who already would like to have that taken away)? The right to legally own property has always been a key principal in this nation, for a reason.

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Tempo parked along the street.

[Eleazar]

I was told by the fan assistance guy that a stabbing was involved. FWIW

I hope the fan assistance guy was professional enough not to make any cutting remarks.

[Prison Bitch]

Actually its totally different. You are of no imment threat to someone that broke into your unoccupied vehicle. Especially if its in the god damned Chiefs parking lot.

I mean we dont know the facts, it could be self defense, but lets be honest its way way way way different than someone breaking into your house while you are home.

No, its really not. And I am 100% opposed to shooting someone who steals from you, but it's dark out and you have no idea what he's up to.

[Eleazar]

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Temp parked along the street.

I wouldn't kill someone for breaking into my car, but I'd definitely enjoy putting some lumps on them if I had the chance.

[Demonpenz]

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Temp parked along the street.

depends if it is the GL

[Pablo]

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Temp parked along the street.Justified.

[Raiderhater]

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Temp parked along the street.

If I need a gun to take down a 12 year old I deserve to have my hubcaps stolen.

[Pablo]

depends if it is the GLLMAO

[cosmo20002]

OMG come on dude.

I bet your the kind of guy that would blow a 12 year olds brains out when you saw him stealing hubcaps off of your 93 Ford Temp parked along the street.

This was in the Arrowhead parking lot. Chances are it was a sweet-ass Camaro.

[Eleazar]

This was in the Arrowhead parking lot. Chances are it was a POS 80s Camaro.

:doh!:

[Bugeater]

depends if it is the GL
If it was a GL it would have alloy wheels, not hubcaps.

[a pp roach]

depends if it is the GL

:LOL:

wow

[BWillie]

So, you are in no I men treat if you walk up to your unoccupied house with a thief in it? GTFO

Did I say that? Obviously it depends on the situation. But what bothers me is the blanket statements on this board that you should be able to just kill anybody in cold blood, in ANY situation, if they are breaking into a car.

[Rain Man]

I've probably mentioned this before, but in college I had a roommate who was a very brawny survivalist type of fellow. He actively hoped someone would break into our house, because he really wanted to have a legal justification for beating the daylights out of someone. He was a good guy to be friends with.

[Raiderhater]

Did I say that? Obviously it depends on the situation. But what bothers me is the blanket statements on this board that you should be able to just kill anybody in cold blood, in ANY situation, if they are breaking into a car.

What bothers me are the blanket statements about the blanket statements. All I have read is that if that is the final out come it was deserved. Not that you should try for that out come.

Reading comprehension, try it some time.

[Eleazar]

Was that bad? Sorry. It was just a clip from youtube.

[Eleazar]

I actually had one of those when I was 16 or so. It wasn't a bad car.

[BWillie]

I've probably mentioned this before, but in college I had a roommate who was a very brawny survivalist type of fellow. He actively hoped someone would break into our house, because he really wanted to have a legal justification for beating the daylights out of someone. He was a good guy to be friends with.

Sounds like a psychopath. I never ever want to have to resort to taking a life if someone breaks into my house. DDefinitely not something I would actively hope for.

[TribalElder]

Struggle at Arrowhead Stadium during game leaves 1 man dead
Posted: Dec 01, 2013 7:11 PM CST Updated: Dec 01, 2013 7:51 PM CST
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager - email
KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

A man is dead following a struggle in an Arrowhead Stadium parking as the Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos played each other.

Kansas City police Chief Darryl Forte called it a homicide in a tweet. Other police officials called it a death investigation.

Police officials said the struggle occurred in Lot A during the game. The man was rushed to an area hospital where he died.

Forte said two suspects are in custody.

Police sources tell KCTV5 that a man and his son had gone to their vehicle during the game. When they arrived, they found another man rifling through the vehicle and a fight broke out. The man who apparently did not belong in the vehicle died.

Police officials did not say whether the two in custody were the father and his son or not.

This occurred exactly one year after Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher killed Kasandra Perkins, the mother of his infant daughter, and then drove to Arrowhead where he killed himself in front of horrified team leaders.

KCTV5 is gathering more information. Refresh this page for updates.

Copyright 2013 KCTV (Meredith Corp.) All rights reserved.
Posted via Mobile Device

I feel bad for suggesting the offense should go belcher themselves in the game thread now

[BWillie]

c

They see me rollin'

They hatin'

[Demonpenz]

I guess my meme got deleted?

[EPodolak]

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

What a douchebag comment.

[Eleazar]

There couldn't have been many people around, and if the thief was "rushed to the hospital", and the two are in custody, I'm guessing they may have reported the incident themselves. Maybe they were even the ones who called for help?

[stonedstooge]

I remember there being a stabbing outside of one of the gates at old Municipal Stadium when I went to a ballgame there back in the day

[Rain Man]

Sounds like a psychopath. I never ever want to have to resort to taking a life if someone breaks into my house. DDefinitely not something I would actively hope for.

I don't think he was a psychopath. He was a nice guy. He just wanted to beat up a criminal. In the big scheme of things, he was no different than Batman.

[Demonpenz]

probably arguing which sauces is better.

[Rain Man]

I remember there being a stabbing outside of one of the gates at old Municipal Stadium when I went to a ballgame there back in the day

It would be wild if that was another father/son deal and the father in this case was the son in that case.

[BWillie]

I don't think he was a psychopath. He was a nice guy. He just wanted to beat up a criminal. In the big scheme of things, he was no different than Batman.

Pretty sure Batman doesn't sit in his Mansion hoping ppl break in so he can bust their skull in.

So, much different.

[cosmo20002]

It would be wild if that was another father/son deal and the father in this case was the son in that case.

Maybe it was the father and son who jumped the rail and attacked the Royals 1st base coach that one time.

[Fish]

Walked by the spot on the way back to the vehicle after the game. Some dumb parking attendant was yelling at people to walk around the spot near the RVs, but most people were completely ignoring it. Lady was saying "You can't walk through here, there's a homicide." but we didn't pay it much attention, and walked on by.

[Saul Good]

It would be wild if that was another father/son deal and the father in this case was the son in that case.

And then the doctor was all, "I can't operate on this man...because he's my son" and it turns out that the doctor was a woman. Life imitates brain teasers.

[a pp roach]

Walked by the spot on the way back to the vehicle after the game. Some dumb parking attendant was yelling at people to walk around the spot near the RVs, but most people were completely ignoring it. Lady was saying "You can't walk through here, there's a homicide." but we didn't pay it much attention, and walked on by.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/be/be09aaf228b98c2eb3c49b4690f27c7adbf569519349f36cec1b829330e8490a.jpg

:D would've done the same

[Predarat]

With the price people pay to park that damn lot should be 100% secure with a 0.00% chance someone breaks into your car. The season ticket holders should file a class action lawsuit against the Kansas City Chiefs.

[cosmo20002]

I don't think he was a psychopath. He was a nice guy. He just wanted to beat up a criminal. In the big scheme of things, he was no different than Batman.

LMAO
As his roommate, were you Robin?

[GloryDayz]

I'm really having a hard time giving a shit... If nothing else, it's just adding one more reason to not go see this band of fools represent our city.

[RNR]

Go away with your Alex Smith hate. If you can't grasp that this loss was not on him then you really need to rewatch the game.

Hopefully Alex Smith was stabbed repeatedly.

For fucks sake you clearly do not watch the games and must follow the game by reading gochiefs posts~

[GloryDayz]

Go away with your Alex Smith hate. If you can't grasp that this loss was not on him then you really need to rewatch the game.

You must be blind... He throws an INT on the first drive, in the endzone, when he might very-well have been able to walk in. But no, he didn't the the big guy wearing the orange shirt... Yeah, the first game-changing dagger was an INT from HIM!

THEN, unless you're re-blind, you may have missed that he rarely hits our WRs in stride. The WRs are always making a circus catch or wondering if that ball was meant for them. Hell, they're usually so fucking surprised it's near them that their untalented asses miss the ball. But hey, the point is he's a VERY inaccurate thrower...

So keep sucking his dick, that'll help fix things!

[threebag]

If you don't want no shit don't start no shit

[Mr_Tomahawk]

@MattEvansKMBC: Here's the full release from police about the suspicious death outside Arrowhead Stadium during today's game. http://t.co/befX1Rf4kZ

[SAUTO]

Walked by the spot on the way back to the vehicle after the game. Some dumb parking attendant was yelling at people to walk around the spot near the RVs, but most people were completely ignoring it. Lady was saying "You can't walk through here, there's a homicide." but we didn't pay it much attention, and walked on by.

we did the exact same thing

[Saul Good]

No obvious signs of what caused the death.

How weird...

[kc rush]

@MattEvansKMBC: Here's the full release from police about the suspicious death outside Arrowhead Stadium during today's game. http://t.co/befX1Rf4kZ

No obvious signs of cause of death, interesting. So no stabbing then I guess.

[Phobia]

You must be blind... He throws an INT on the first drive, in the endzone, when he might very-well have been able to walk in. But no, he didn't the the big guy wearing the orange shirt... Yeah, the first game-changing dagger was an INT from HIM!

THEN, unless you're re-blind, you may have missed that he rarely hits our WRs in stride. The WRs are always making a circus catch or wondering if that ball was meant for them. Hell, they're usually so ****ing surprised it's near them that their untalented asses miss the ball. But hey, the point is he's a VERY inaccurate thrower...

So keep sucking his dick, that'll help fix things!

With the exception of the last throw of the night, I think he was pretty spot on all day.

[threebag]

@MattEvansKMBC: Here's the full release from police about the suspicious death outside Arrowhead Stadium during today's game. http://t.co/befX1Rf4kZ

That filled in all the gaps

[threebag]

With the exception of the last throw of the night, I think he was pretty spot on all day.

I am excited to see the improvement that has been coming along.

I am on board with Alex. He can take us there.

[cosmo20002]

@MattEvansKMBC: Here's the full release from police about the suspicious death outside Arrowhead Stadium during today's game. http://t.co/befX1Rf4kZ

So police call came at 5:20. Less than 2 hours into the game. Who is leaving that early? Something weird here.

[tk13]

Very weird that the whole thing happened at 5:20 PM.

[Bugeater]

So police call came at 5:20. Less than 2 hours into the game. Who is leaving that early? Something weird here.
Yep. There's more to this story.

[BigCatDaddy]

@MattEvansKMBC: Here's the full release from police about the suspicious death outside Arrowhead Stadium during today's game. http://t.co/befX1Rf4kZ

My guess.

Dude high on meth/coke out breaking into cars. Gets caught and the fight ensues causing adrenaline to hit and the heart rate to spike even more. Heart gives out, bad guy no longer breaking into cars.

[Prison Bitch]

Wasn't 5:20 a few min after Reid chickened out on the 4th & 2 from their 42? That may have caused the fans to give up hope and leave.

[booger]

Poor crackhead was so scared his heart gave out

[Saul Good]

My guess.

Dude high on meth/coke out breaking into cars. Gets caught and the fight ensues causing adrenaline to hit and the heart rate to spike even more. Heart gives out, bad guy no longer breaking into cars.

That's kind of what I was thinking...except I doubt it was coke.

[BigCatDaddy]

That's kind of what I was thinking...except I doubt it was coke.

Meth/Coke/Crack if he was black; some type of stim.

[kevonm]

Huffing can sensitize your heart to catecholamines, causing sudden death if you are surprised. From an arrhythmia

[aturnis]

With the exception of the last throw of the night, I think he was pretty spot on all day.

Agree. Most of the offensive ineptitude that embodied the better part of three quarters was on Reid IMO. His playcalling became awful and predictable. All of the short drives gave Peyton and co. more time and more chances to score. Not to mention our defense had to be pooped. Wonder if it's any coincidence that they came up with a stop after the offense led a long sustained drive.

[Bugeater]

Wasn't 5:20 a few min after Reid chickened out on the 4th & 2 from their 42? That may have caused the fans to give up hope and leave.
Good memory. I looked through the game thread and people were bitching about it right at that time. Thing is they would've had to have left long before that if the call came at that time.

[SAUTO]

Meth/Coke/Crack if he was black; some type of stim.

white people don't smoke crack?

[dj56dt58]

So police call came at 5:20. Less than 2 hours into the game. Who is leaving that early? Something weird here.

couldn't stand watching the defense take it in the ass anymore?

[Prison Bitch]

Good memory. I looked through the game thread and people were bitching about it right at that time. Thing is they would've had to have left long before that if the call came at that time.

Good find. I about bolted when he threw in the towel.

[dj56dt58]

No obvious signs of cause of death, interesting. So no stabbing then I guess.

yeah it doesn't show the cause of branden alberts

[booger]

Probably freaked out while being retained/sat on before the cops got there

[Prison Bitch]

Prob hit his head on the concrete. Or had it hit on the concrete.

[booger]

Maybe got his head shut in the car door repeatedly by accident

[kc rush]

Meth/Coke/Crack if he was black; some type of stim.

Says he was a white male, mid-20's

[Bugeater]

Maybe got his head shut in the car door repeatedly by accident
I hate it when that accidentally happens.

[Predarat]

Lot A - You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Not surprised at all this kind of thing happened there.

[booger]

I hate it when that accidentally happens.

Me too. Finally gave in and bought a red truck

[GloryDayz]

With the exception of the last throw of the night, I think he was pretty spot on all day.

I guess my standard for "spot on" is what Manning, Brees, and Brady can do. All these circus catches our WRs have to make to get to the ball, or back to it, seems less than spot-on.

I guess I have to just accept the Chiefs will never have a Manning or a Brady (and their version of spot on). We'll draft another RT in the first round, and I'm sure next time we pick #1, we'll even pick a RT at that point.

As for an elite QB coming here in FA, well, we saw what happened with Manning...

FML!

[Phobia]

My guess.

Dude high on meth/coke out breaking into cars. Gets caught and the fight ensues causing adrenaline to hit and the heart rate to spike even more. Heart gives out, bad guy no longer breaking into cars.

Has that Barry Koolaid released a podcast yet tonight?

[booger]

Has that Barry Koolaid released a podcast yet tonight?

Lmao

[Phobia]

I guess my standard for "spot on" is what Manning, Brees, and Brady can do. All these circus catches our WRs have to make to get to the ball, or back to it, seems less than spot-on.

I guess I have to just accept the Chiefs will never have a Manning or a Brady (and their version of spot on). We'll draft another RT in the first round, and I'm sure next time we pick #1, we'll even pick a RT at that point.

As for an elite QB coming here in FA, well, we saw what happened with Manning...

FML!

I saw Manning put up two INT's that should have put the Chiefs up 28-7. Remember those?

[Rain Man]

I guess my standard for "spot on" is what Manning, Brees, and Brady can do. All these circus catches our WRs have to make to get to the ball, or back to it, seems less than spot-on.

I guess I have to just accept the Chiefs will never have a Manning or a Brady (and their version of spot on). We'll draft another RT in the first round, and I'm sure next time we pick #1, we'll even pick a RT at that point.

As for an elite QB coming here in FA, well, we saw what happened with Manning...

FML!

While it's a great aspiration to have a Manning or a Brady, those are probably two of the top five or six quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, even with the watered-down rules. The odds are that we'll never have a Manning or a Brady on our team.

[Shogun]

Poor guy was just heartbroken at this team. Died on the spot

[GloryDayz]

I saw Manning put up two INT's that should have put the Chiefs up 28-7. Remember those?

Yep... I did... And it should have, but it didn't.

I also saw Manning beat us deep with PERFECTLY thrown passes. I seem to recall fixing my post that said he'd burn us for 50, but he burned us for 77.

Now, where are those throws for Alex? He's had a few, prolly throws them all the time in practice, but he rarely makes them on gameday.

He sucks compared to Manning and Brady; he just can't throw the ball as well as they can (not even close to as well).

But he's what we have, and we'll simply have to live with his arm (like it or not).

[GloryDayz]

While it's a great aspiration to have a Manning or a Brady, those are probably two of the top five or six quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, even with the watered-down rules. The odds are that we'll never have a Manning or a Brady on our team.

Yup....

Now we just have to wait for the next Stanzi, cASSHOLE, or Smith to be trotted in...

[dj56dt58]

Yep... I did... And it should have, but it didn't.

I also saw Manning beat us deep with PERFECTLY thrown passes. I seem to recall fixing my post that said he'd burn us for 50, but he burned us for 77.

Now, where are those throws for Alex? He's had a few, prolly throws them all the time in practice, but he rarely makes them on gameday.

He sucks compared to Manning and Brady; he just can't throw the ball as well as they can (not even close to as well).

But he's what we have, and we'll simply have to live with his arm (like it or not).

I saw some great throws by smith today. Manning hit his receivers deep in stride because completely beat the coverage, including the safeties. It takes a Kendrick Lewis life effort to get beat over the top that many times. This was 2002 defense bad. Unless you can see all 22, you don't know if smith could have led receivers or not, for all you know had smith lead receivers he might have been leading them into coverage.

[SAUTO]

Yep... I did... And it should have, but it didn't.

I also saw Manning beat us deep with PERFECTLY thrown passes. I seem to recall fixing my post that said he'd burn us for 50, but he burned us for 77.

Now, where are those throws for Alex? He's had a few, prolly throws them all the time in practice, but he rarely makes them on gameday.

He sucks compared to Manning and Brady; he just can't throw the ball as well as they can (not even close to as well).

But he's what we have, and we'll simply have to live with his arm (like it or not).he put it on the money today.

[Phobia]

Yep... I did... And it should have, but it didn't.

I also saw Manning beat us deep with PERFECTLY thrown passes. I seem to recall fixing my post that said he'd burn us for 50, but he burned us for 77.

Now, where are those throws for Alex? He's had a few, prolly throws them all the time in practice, but he rarely makes them on gameday.

He sucks compared to Manning and Brady; he just can't throw the ball as well as they can (not even close to as well).

But he's what we have, and we'll simply have to live with his arm (like it or not).

Those guys aren't perfect either. They miss throws all the time. But it's a lot easier to throw the ball to guys who are world class athletes.

[dj56dt58]

wait..did someone get killed outside arrowhead?

[GloryDayz]

he put it on the money today.

OK, you win, he's just like Brady and Manning, except he can run too. We give our WRs a little stickum (well, a lot of it), and we can't be stopped.

Let's hope we get to Denver so we can rip Manning's heart out...

[GloryDayz]

Those guys aren't perfect either. They miss throws all the time. But it's a lot easier to throw the ball to guys who are world class athletes.

Good point, our WRs are anything but "world class"...

[SAUTO]

OK, you win, he's just like Brady and Manning, except he can run too. We give our WRs a little stickum (well, a lot of it), and we can't be stopped.

Let's hope we get to Denver so we can rip Manning's heart out...

see i never said anything like that.

[Coach]

wait..did someone get killed outside arrowhead?

Yes, on Lot A. Happened near me.

[GloryDayz]

see i never said anything like that.

OK, you win, he "put it on the money today"....