If you could steal 1 player besides QB

[lcarus]

From any team in the NFL to be a Chief, who would it be?

[Ebolapox]

right now?

megatron

[RealSNR]

Our defense would own so much face with JJ Watt

[lcarus]

Megatron was the first one to come to my mind.

[KCwolf]

another Vote Calvin ... guy is a freak

[chiefzilla1501]

Eric Fisher

[saphojunkie]

AJ Green. He's younger than Megatron.

[Ace Gunner]

don't need younger. need megatron.

[Dayze]

Julio Jones

[Ace Gunner]

or andre johnson.

[Ace Gunner]

Julio Jones

IR???

[Tribal Warfare]

Our defense would own so much face with JJ Watt

This

[Ace Gunner]

or vernon davis

[Ace Gunner]

if I were only choosing defense I'd take suh

[Dayze]

IR???

well, after IR of course. :D

[notorious]

The best RT in the league.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Probably Calvin Johnson, yes.

[Mr. Laz]

AJ Green. He's younger than Megatron.and cheaper allowing us to still add more players this offseason

i'm thinking AJ Green too

[a pp roach]

surprised nobody has said peyton manning.

he's a forehead, not a qb.

[JakeLV]

Earl Thomas

[ThaVirus]

Watt, Earl Thomas, or Richard Sherman. We could use either of the three so fucking badly right now.

If forced to choose I'd probably go:

1. Watt
2. Earl Thomas
3. Richard Sherman
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Navarro Bowman

Seems odd to go mostly defense over offense when it's obvious we need some firepower at key offensive positions, but the defensive guys are all so young that we'd be straight for years to come with any of them as opposed to a 28 year "old" Megatron.

Watt, Hali and Houston rushing the passer? Earl Thomas locking down the deep middle in our defense? Richard Sherman locking up an entire side of the field? Navarro Bowman and DJ at the LB spots so we could kick Berry up to deep safety? We'd be fucking incredible.

I might consider Jimmy Graham as well, though, given Alex Smith's love for TEs.

[lcarus]

Watt, Earl Thomas, or Richard Sherman. We could use either of the three so fucking badly right now.

If forced to choose I'd probably go:

1. Watt
2. Earl Thomas
3. Richard Sherman
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Navarro Bowman

Seems odd to go mostly defense over offense when it's obvious we need some firepower at key offensive positions, but the defensive guys are all so young that we'd be straight for years to come with any of them as opposed to a 28 year "old" Megatron.

Watt, Hali and Houston rushing the passer? Earl Thomas locking down the deep middle in our defense? Richard Sherman locking up an entire side of the field? Navarro Bowman and DJ at the LB spots so we could kick Berry up to deep safety? We'd be fucking incredible.

I might consider Jimmy Graham as well, though, given Alex Smith's love for TEs.

Graham would be a huge boost to offense

[RunKC]

Darkhorse: Muhammed Wilkerson. The best 3-4 DE in the league not named Watt.

[Dayze]

Richard Sherman?

[RealSNR]

Darkhorse: Muhammed Wilkerson. The best 3-4 DE in the league not named Watt.

Wouldn't it be easier to just have Watt?

[The Bad Guy]

Jimmy Graham.

[Bewbies]

A ref that calls holding for Hali once or twice a season.

[Halfcan]

and cheaper allowing us to still add more players this offseason

i'm thinking AJ Green too

:thumb:

[RunKC]

Wouldn't it be easier to just have Watt?

yes but I wanted to be different goddamnit!

[Gravedigger]

Matt Prater, DID YOU SEE THAT 64 YARD FIELD GOAL!!!! I'M TELLING YOU GUYS KICKERS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

[cosmo20002]

right now?

megatron

/thread over

[Deberg_1990]

Geno Smith

/average CP fan

[lcarus]

Matt Prater, DID YOU SEE THAT 64 YARD FIELD GOAL!!!! I'M TELLING YOU GUYS KICKERS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

LOL! I've got weak chicken legs and I could kick a 64 yarder in that stadium wearing high heels.

[lcarus]

Geno Smith

/average CP fan

There's nothing average about them at all. They're very very special.

[Rain Man]

If you look at our areas of weakness, you'd probably want a free safety, a wide receiver, or an offensive lineman. Since our D is doing okay with Lewis, I'd go offense. It's hard to argue against Calvin Johnson, though from an age perspective you might go with AJ Green or Dez Bryant. Bryant impressed the heck out of me when we played the Cowboys, and it sounds like he's maturing to stay out of trouble if you believe the reports.

[Tribal Warfare]

/thread over

He'll need a QB that'll get him the ball and a dominant passrusher would affect that

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's Calvin Johnson, and it's not close. There isn't a single non-QB that has an impact on the game equivalent to his.

[Rain Man]

It's Calvin Johnson, and it's not close. There isn't a single non-QB that has an impact on the game equivalent to his.

But I hear that he's old and not very physical.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

But I hear that he's old and not very physical.

Those Florida educations don't seem to teach much about throwing a football, not murdering, or common sense.

[lcarus]

I'd probably go with Calvin, Dez, AJ, or Julio.....but god DAMN Earl Thomas would make our secondary beastly for a long ass time.

[TheGuardian]

Vernon Davis????

Jimmy Graham >>>>>>>>>>>> VErnon Davis.

JJ Watt.

[Kidd Lex]

Luke Joeckel obviously

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Matt Cassel

[Tribal Warfare]

Matt Cassel

Shut your pirate hooker mouth

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Vegas has considered this. Since we aren't replacing Charles, Johnson has the biggest single impact of any other offensive or defensive player:

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/72756/if-he-goes-down-we-go-down-nfl-injury-value-in-vegas

[Mr. Laz]

With the Cap room we save by getting AJ Green instead of Calvin Johnson we can go after Jimmy Graham in free agency.

Green + Graham > Johnson + cap hell


boom!! :)

[ILChief]

Calvin johnson

[Mav]

Josh Gordon

[Tribal Warfare]

Vegas has considered this. Since we aren't replacing Charles, Johnson has the biggest single impact of any other offensive or defensive player:

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/72756/if-he-goes-down-we-go-down-nfl-injury-value-in-vegas
WR is too reliant on the QB and OL

Hence, we go to the positional value issue

[Mav]

Darkhorse: Muhammed Wilkerson. The best 3-4 DE in the league not named Watt.

Yeah. Justin Smith says hi!

[Rain Man]

Vegas has considered this. Since we aren't replacing Charles, Johnson has the biggest single impact of any other offensive or defensive player:

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/72756/if-he-goes-down-we-go-down-nfl-injury-value-in-vegas

Louis Delmas?

[stonedstooge]

I'd get that Jeffrey kid from Da Bears

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Louis Delmas?

Keep in mind that value is relative to the player’s backup. Many experts consider Joe Montana to be the best quarterback of all time. Wonder how many points he was worth? Not many, when he was backed up by Hall of Famer Steve Young. Las Vegas bookmaker Mike Colbert makes the case that the value of Matt Ryan and Eli Manning is inflated by inept backups, while the value of Tony Romo and Andrew Luck is lessened by extra-capable backups.

[noa]

I'd go with Megatron, too. He would certainly make Alex look a lot better.

[Rain Man]

Keep in mind that value is relative to the player’s backup. Many experts consider Joe Montana to be the best quarterback of all time. Wonder how many points he was worth? Not many, when he was backed up by Hall of Famer Steve Young. Las Vegas bookmaker Mike Colbert makes the case that the value of Matt Ryan and Eli Manning is inflated by inept backups, while the value of Tony Romo and Andrew Luck is lessened by extra-capable backups.

You'd think that Christian Ponder would blow away the entire league under those rules.

[ThaVirus]

Calvin benefits a lot from Stafford's affinity for chucking the ball up there for him to make a play. I'm not sure he'd look as amazing with Alex as he does right now, although his presence alone would do wonders.

[Mav]

WR is too reliant on the QB and OL

Hence, we go to the positional value issue

Josh Gordon leads the league in receiving with three different average to straight garbage qbs. Let's stop with the excuses. If you can play, you can play.

[ThaVirus]

Hoyer, Weeden and Campbell are closer to average. Weeden is the worst of the bunch and he actually throws a decent deep ball and isn't afraid to let it go.

Please stop talking about Josh Gordon every chance you get.

[SAUTO]

Josh Gordon

if it was guaranteed no suspension for the life of the contract its josh gordon or jimmy graham for me.

[JoeyChuckles]

Vince Agnew.

[BossChief]

Earl Thomas on defense or Jimmy Graham on offense.

Either guy would make an immense impact at critical need spots.

The contract is the only thing keeping me from saying CJ

[ChiefsCountry]

Joe Thomas /truefans

[donkhater]

I vote for a healthy Gronkowski. He is a man among boys.

[Dave Lane]

Peyton Manning

[KCrockaholic]

Calvin Johnson.

Maybe Jimmy Graham. He's basically a WR anyways.

If I had to pick a defensive player, I'd say JJ Watt to replace DeVito. Not that DeVito has been bad at all.

[Chief Roundup]

JJ SWatt or A.J. Green

[O.city]

A healthy Percy Harvin.

Megatron (without the contract)

I'm not a fan of Earl Thomas, so I'd rather have Byrd if I'm taking a FS.

But it's pretty hard to argue against JJ Watt.

[doomy3]

Calvin for sure.

[ThaVirus]

Earl Thomas does miss a shit ton of open field tackles. He actually really sucks in that regard.. So there's that.

[Bump]

Megatron or Aaron Rodgers....

[prhom]

Josh Gordon, think about what he has done with shitty QB play. Megatron has had a pretty good QB and Gordon is just getting warmed up.

[crossbow]

Josh Gordon - not even close.

He has already smashed some rookie records with a crappy team while everyone in the house knows he is the target.

[Sorter]

I prefer Watt, although I think it's a wash with the receiving options already mentioned.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Megatron. Without him Detroit isn't very good at all. I realize that Alex isn't the kiond of QB to just throw it up to let a guy go and get the ball, but with Megatron, I think he'd make an exception. Calvin Johnson single-handed can change the outcomes of games.

[Mav]

Hoyer, Weeden and Campbell are closer to average. Weeden is the worst of the bunch and he actually throws a decent deep ball and isn't afraid to let it go.

Please stop talking about Josh Gordon every chance you get.

Nope. Get over it. 22 year old stud.

[Exoter175]

AJ Green. He's younger than Megatron.

This, I'd take AJ over any receiver in the league, period. Twice on Tuesday.

[Mav]

This, I'd take AJ over any receiver in the league, period. Twice on Tuesday.

I like him too.

[BossChief]

If the decision was mine, I would first think about a player from our division to take.

Demarius Thomas or Von Miller would give us a top shelf player and take one away from a rival.

Eric Weddle would fit in our defense perfectly and would kill SDs defense.

Outside of that, Suh or Watt would be beasts in this defense. CJ would change any offense, but would make us release good players to make room for the contract.

We NEED a safety that can limit those deeper routes so guys like Earl Thomas or Jarius Byrd attractive because of their immediate impact in speed in the back end.

It's easy to just say "it's CJ and its not close" but I'm not sure he is who I'd pick.

[Just Passin' By]

With Gronk on the shelf, and QB off the table, I'd pick from this group:

Calvin Johnson
Jimmy Graham
Patrick Peterson

[crossbow]

I am changing my bid. I want a offensive tackle or 5 tech.

[Saccopoo]

Right here, right now, for this team as it stands and all things considered?

Offense: Jason Witten

Defense: Eric Weddle

[ChiefsCountry]

Sac picks a Utah player imagine that.

[Sorter]

I am changing my bid. I want a offensive tackle or 5 tech.

JJ Watt is a 5 tech.

You've now won Planet Earth. What will you do, Johnny?

[Pablo]

Like most have said; it has to be Megatron. That is what a generational talent looks like. He in unstoppable.

[Nightfyre]

Jj watt, imo. There is no shutting down that beast. Ngata would also create some really interesting matchup problems playing beside poe.

[AussieChiefsFan]

If the decision was mine, I would first think about a player from our division to take.

Demarius Thomas or Von Miller would give us a top shelf player and take one away from a rival.

Eric Weddle would fit in our defense perfectly and would kill SDs defense.

Outside of that, Suh or Watt would be beasts in this defense. CJ would change any offense, but would make us release good players to make room for the contract.

We NEED a safety that can limit those deeper routes so guys like Earl Thomas or Jarius Byrd attractive because of their immediate impact in speed in the back end.

It's easy to just say "it's CJ and its not close" but I'm not sure he is who I'd pick.That's an interesting way to look at it. I agree completely with Eric Weddle being a great addition. Imagine having Berry and Weddle at Safety. Daaaaamn.

[lcarus]

That's an interesting way to look at it. I agree completely with Eric Weddle being a great addition. Imagine having Berry and Weddle at Safety. Daaaaamn.

Yeah I agree. I didn't even think about a rival losing a player. But if I could pick any one player from the league to be a Chief, there's no way in absolute hell it would be Eric Weddle lol.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Yeah I agree. I didn't even think about a rival losing a player. But if I could pick any one player from the league to be a Chief, there's no way in absolute hell it would be Eric Weddle lol.Yeah of course. If we could have any player, I'd take a guy that benefits us rather than negatively impacts a rival.

[Hoover]

Jimmy Graham or Megatron.

[jaa1025]

Defense: JJ Watt or Earl Thomas (fills by far the biggest hole in the defense)

Offense: Megatron, by far the best WR in the game. AJ Green is 2nd. Bryant is 3rd.

However, if we were taking players from teams in our division then Manning should be the obvious choice. The Bronco's would crumble and we'd be even better.

[Sorter]

I do wonder about what adding Kuechly would do for this team.

[Saccopoo]

Sac picks a Utah player imagine that.

Sac picks the best free safety in the NFL. Imagine that.

[AussieChiefsFan]

I do wonder about what adding Kuechly would do for this team.I remember really wanting us to draft him, I think he went a couple picks before us. Really glad we got Poe though.

[TLO]

Todd Pinkston

Freddie Mitchell

E.G. Green

[GoChargers]

Defense: Eric Weddle
Nah, he's ours. You can have Derek Cox though. :thumb:

[BandwagonChiefsFan]

We stole Alex Smith from the 49ers

[wink91wink]

Megatron, Jimmy Graham, Sherman. One of those 3.

[KC Hawks]

Glenn Dorsey.

[ILChief]

I do wonder about what adding Kuechly would do for this team.

Unless you think he is a lot better than DJ, not much as we only play one MLB most of the time

[bricks]

Calvin Johnson.

[FRCDFED]

J.J. Watt, Jimmy Graham, or Josh Gordon. In that order.

[UK_Chief]

Matt Cassel.

(He doesn't fit any description of a QB)

[beach tribe]

It's Calvin Johnson, and it's not close. There isn't a single non-QB that has an impact on the game equivalent to his.
Seriously.

How is this a discussion?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Taylor Mays

[crossbow]

JJ Watt is a 5 tech.

You've now won Planet Earth. What will you do, Johnny?

Going to Disney Land.

[The Franchise]

Megatron and it isn't close.

[donkhater]

Megatron and it isn't close.

Sure it's close. You look at Gronkowski and, when healthy, is as dominant if not more than Megatron. There is simply no stopping him.

Now his ability to stay healthy is an issue, but when you talk about physical freaks in the NFL that DOMINATE, Gronk is every bit in the disscussion with Johnson.

[FRCDFED]

Megatron and it isn't close.

Depends on the offensive scheme and the strengths of your QB. IMO Graham would see more balls thereby keeping the chains moving, eating up more clock, and scoring more TD's in this offense with this QB. This being said, to see a stud like Megatron wearing red would be a dream. Dude is a monster.

[TEX]

Depends on the offensive scheme and the strengths of your QB. IMO Graham would see more balls thereby keeping the chains moving, eating up more clock, and scoring more TD's in this offense with this QB. This being said, to see a stud like Megatron wearing red would be a dream. Dude is a monster.

I agree. Graham for this offense.

[ct]

Matt Cassel

nuthooks


I gotta say Jimmy Graham would make the biggest impact for this team right now

[King_Chief_Fan]

I agree. Graham for this offense.
ditto

[Dave Lane]

Sac picks a Utah player imagine that.

I'm starting to think he's Andy Reid or a son that didn't kill themselves.

[Dave Lane]

Matt Cassel.

(He doesn't fit any description of a QB)

We already have him. He just wears a different number now.

[Buck]

For the Chargers I would probably say Von Miller or Tamba Hali.

[mschiefs1984]

Megatron easy.

[DJ's left nut]

I feel like there are only 2 even remotely reasonable answers here.

It's Megatron or Watt.

Sure AJ Green is younger than Megatron, but he's just a good WR. He's not Calvin Johnson. Johnson will go down as one of the 5 best WRs of all time (2nd, IMO). AJ Green will not. You can triple cover Johnson and he's still open. Green can be neutralized.

As for Watt - getting a legitimately premier pass-rusher and top-end run stopper as a 5-tech would be like playing with 12 guys on the field at all times with this defense.

I just don't see any other non-QB options that are even close.

[DJ's left nut]

I agree. Graham for this offense.

Graham isn't a TE - he's a WR.

Megatron can do literally everything that Graham can do and he can do them better.

Graham lines in receiver formation about 80% of the time these days. He's listed as a TE, but he isn't one.

If you're looking for a true TE, Gronk was about the only premier pass-catcher left that actually plays TE.

[GoChargers]

For the Chargers...

Offense: Megatron (seriously, Rivers/Allen/CJ would be unstoppable)

Defense: Richard Sherman (this could have been at least a 10 win team with a secondary that didn't blow chunks)

[O.city]

I think this thread alone just goes to show how ridiculous it is to base player performance by wins and losses.

JJ Watt is a prime example. Dude has been a monster, as usual, this year and could be the defensive MVP, yet his team is in line to pick first overall.

crazy

[Direckshun]

I'd go with Calvin Johnson on offense, and Robert Mathis on defense.

The game is won by getting to the QB. Houston is stoppable. Mathis and Hali would be unstoppable.

[seaofred]

My head tells me it's Megatron, but I really want to pick JJ Watt too.

[DJ's left nut]

I'd go with Calvin Johnson on offense, and Robert Mathis on defense.

The game is won by getting to the QB. Houston is stoppable. Mathis and Hali would be unstoppable.

You believe the Chiefs would be better with Mathis, Hali, Jackson and Devito than they would be with Houston, Hali, Jackson and Watt?

You're high. The pass rush would be significantly better with Watt replacing Devito. Mathis is a little better than Houston, but not nearly as much better than Houston as Watt is better than Devito.

[O.city]

If I'm going with another 34 OLB, give me Von to pair with Hali or Houston.

[Bowser]

Calvin Johnson



JJ Watt


Jimmy Graham
Josh Gordon
Richard Sherman

Luke Keuchley
Navarro Bowman
Eric Weddle

[Chief Roundup]

If I'm going with another 34 OLB, give me Von to pair with Hali or Houston.

Why Von dumbass Miller? That guy has been pedestrian since he can't take any of his PED's.

[Bowser]

Why Von dumbass Miller? That guy has been pedestrian since he can't take any of his PED's.

He has 33 tackles and five sacks since his return. Not chopped liver, but not exactly the stats of a game changer, either.

[Eleazar]

Can we steal Will Shields and Brian Waters from a team in the past?

[Sandy Vagina]

Calvin Johnson, of course... Jimmy Graham would also be a huge boost to the offense.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Can we steal Will Shields and Brian Waters from a team in the past?

Throw in Roaf and I'd still take Calvin over the three of them

[loochy]

Martin Grammatica

[Jakemall]

or vernon davis

Or Megatron. They are the two players that would make the most significant change to the talent at their respective positions for this team.

A few weeks ago I might have suggested one of the better RTs or Guards in the league...but I've been impressed with the improvement this line has made.

[Jakemall]

Calvin Johnson



JJ Watt


Jimmy Graham
Josh Gordon
Richard Sherman

Luke Keuchley
Navarro Bowman
Eric Weddle

Bowman over Willis? Interesting.

[Bowser]

Bowman over Willis? Interesting.

Willis is no slouch but Bowman is on a tear. I wouldn't cry if PW lined up next to DJ.

[ThaVirus]

I agree and would likely take Bowman over Willis at this moment.

Keuchly would be fucking fantastic too but I might go with Bowman for his familiarity with the 3-4. Neither of them really have a weakness and Bowman has experience in a defense similar to ours while Keuchly is a bit younger. You couldn't go wrong.

[Eleazar]

Throw in Roaf and I'd still take Calvin over the three of them

I was just trying to come up with a creative answer since there was already a consensus.

[Jakemall]

Willis is no slouch but Bowman is on a tear. I wouldn't cry if PW lined up next to DJ.

I wonder how much of Bowman being Bowman is because of Willis being Willis?

[ThaVirus]

I wonder how much of Bowman being Bowman is because of Willis being Willis?

Willis has missed a ton of time this season, while Aldon Smith was also out, and Bowman appeared to shine even brighter. He's a legit ass player, no doubt in my mind.

[CoMoChief]

WR Calvin Johnson or DE JJ Watt

[CallMeSquidwad]

JJ.

[Easy 6]

Jimmy Graham.

I was going to say Gronk, but since he's out this is an excellent choice.

[Mav]

I wonder how much of Bowman being Bowman is because of Willis being Willis?

Considering that when pwill was out earlier this season, Bowman dominated with no aldon, and no p Willis. I have for two years thought Bowman had passed by willis

[Mav]

Willis has missed a ton of time this season, while Aldon Smith was also out, and Bowman appeared to shine even brighter. He's a legit ass player, no doubt in my mind.

Yeah. At least we can agree on something.

[Jakemall]

Considering that when pwill was out earlier this season, Bowman dominated with no aldon, and no p Willis. I have for two years thought Bowman had passed by willis

Do you remember when Willis and Bowman were taking turns in the Dime formation last season? 3 and outs when Willis was on the field.

With that said, I think they have somewhat different skill sets. Willis is better in coverage and Bowman is the better pass rusher...but if I was going to chose just one, I'm going to chose Willis every time.

I do think that Bowman is an excellent LB...but I think Willis is HoF material.

[Mav]

Do you remember when Willis and Bowman were taking turns in the Dime formation last season? 3 and outs when Willis was on the field.

With that said, I think they have somewhat different skill sets. Willis is better in coverage and Bowman is the better pass rusher...but if I was going to chose just one, I'm going to chose Willis every time.

I do think that Bowman is an excellent LB...but I think Willis is HoF material.

Why cant they both be Hall of Fame Material?

Do you remember when on Thursday night against the rams, that Bowman had his own little party and invited the other 10 guys to join him?

Now, lets be honest, over the past two years, Willis has been injured quite a bit. Bowman is never hurt.

You really are splitting hairs when you are saying that Willis>Bowman, or the other way around. Its saying, who is 1.a, and who is 1.b


I just prefer the Bowman, to the P Willis.

no biggie. Nice problem to have when having both.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Calvin Johnson easily

[O.city]

There is some reason for Willis or Bowman, in that it would allow the Chiefs to not have to have Berry play LB in the nickel and dime.

So it would improve two spots at once. However, Watt would likely make that not matter.

[ThaVirus]

There is some reason for Willis or Bowman, in that it would allow the Chiefs to not have to have Berry play LB in the nickel and dime.

So it would improve two spots at once. However, Watt would likely make that not matter.

Yep.

We desperately need a consistent pass rush from the DE spots. Hali, Poe, Watt and Houston on the line in nickel and dime packages would be filthy.

[Rausch]

Calvin Johnson easily

He'd never get the ball.

I'd say Slow-Fry Whitey in NO.

BEASTING at TE and we know Smiff loves him some TE...

[TripleThreat]

Vernon Davis????

Jimmy Graham >>>>>>>>>>>> VErnon Davis.

JJ Watt.

Agreed. Alex loves throwing to tight ends so I think if we got a aj green or Bryant or a johnson it would be not exactly a waste because they would draw coverage but we wouldn't see the production out of them as some would expect.

With that I think graham would do wonders for our team. Vernon Davis was Alex favorite target after all.

[milkman]

Just to bring something different to the table, I would submit the names of Larry Fitzgerald and Sheldon Richardson.

[Unsmooth Moment]

Jimmy Graham

[Reerun_KC]

Would dump the whole wr and te corp and start over. Including dimebag.