The Bucs are hiring Lovie Smith to be their new head coach

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Bucs are hiring Lovie Smith to be their new head coach, two sides are finalizing the contract tonight</p>&mdash; Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/statuses/418558583911882752">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Think he stays with Mike Glennon?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

But what about scooter?

[Al Bundy]

Think he stays with Mike Glennon?
Glennon will remain on the roster, but we won't win with him as the starter.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Expected to be Leslie Frazier as DC. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer">@JayGlazer</a> Bucs are hiring Lovie Smith to be HC, two sides are finalizing the contract tonight</p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/statuses/418558799985659904">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Titty Meat]

Meh

[In58men]

I love Lovie Smith. If they hire the same ole Scooter that was in KC, they are in trouble

[Titty Meat]

Will Lovie make a deal for Cutler?

[Fritz88]

Think he stays with Mike Glennon?

Based on his history with the Bears, I'd say yes.

However, it's interesting how owners now are looking for HCs before GMs.

[tecumseh]

Good move.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

I love Lovie Smith. If they hire the same ole Scooter that was in KC, they are in trouble

Pioli not going to the Bucs. You really think his ego would go to a place that hired a Coach before GM.

[Fritz88]

Pioli not going to the Bucs. You really think his ego would go to a place that hired a Coach before GM.

You never know. People change. Perhaps what happened in KC is a humbling experience.

[johnny961]

Good choice for them.

[tk13]

Even more than ego... Lovie and Frazier are Cover 2 guys. Pioli is not the GM you'd want trying to get players for their defense.

[Al Bundy]

Based on his history with the Bears, I'd say yes.

However, it's interesting how owners now are looking for HCs before GMs.

From what I have been told a GM is right on his heels.

[In58men]

You never know. People change. Perhaps what happened in KC is a humbling experience.

I think he learned a valuable lesson, unless it was Haley who was the crazy one.

[BigCatDaddy]

Good hire.

[FloridaMan88]

A safe hire by Tampa and a good fit.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lovie Smith had a strong working relationship with Chris Ballard (now Chiefs director of player personnel); both are friends.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565381872435201">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Speculation in league circles is that Lovie will want to bring Ballard with him to the Bucs.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565696915001344">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[BigCatDaddy]

Glennon will remain on the roster, but we won't win with him as the starter.

This amazes me. He kicked ass for a rookie but you already know he can't win games as he develops?

[Fritz88]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lovie Smith had a strong working relationship with Chris Ballard (now Chiefs director of player personnel); both are friends.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565381872435201">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Speculation in league circles is that Lovie will want to bring Ballard with him to the Bucs.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565696915001344">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Based on what we've seen from him, he'd be a loss.

[Titty Meat]

Who?

[Buehler445]

I have no idea why people think Lovie Smith is a good coach.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

http://i.imgur.com/KqDgY.gif

[Just Passin' By]

Will Lovie make a deal for Cutler?

Cutler's a free agent. About the only way Lovie would need to make a deal for him is if the Bears decide to franchise him for trading purposes.

[booger]

I wondered about Ballard joining him when kubiak was fired and interst in smith arose. Hope not but he's a fast riser and deserving. Mostly a college scouting background as opposed to pro side. Those types do well

[booger]

I have no idea why people think Lovie Smith is a good coach.

Depends on his OC but I think it's the best TB could hope for. Glazers are aweful

[kcxiv]

I think he learned a valuable lesson, unless it was Haley who was the crazy one.

Pioli had to have been humbled after see'ing how everyone absolutely hated him in KC and being sued by former employee's . I seen him on tv also admit that he stuck with the qb to long in KC.

If you can admit your mistakes and learn to fix them, ya should be ok. He did draft some nice players for the Chiefs.

[The Franchise]

Rumor is Jeff Tedford as OC.

[booger]

Also heard McKay, De Angleo and another name mentioned for GM/personnel guy

[Hoover]

Good move for them, but I wonder if it means Scott isn't Tampa bound. Pretty sure he would have wanted to pick his own HC.

[Simply Red]

***** can eat a sock of cock.

[booger]

Pioli can head to Penn St with Schiano and get Sandusky'd by all the Paterno fans who won't move on

[Direckshun]

Boy, I can't help but think this is the best possible hire they could make.

Perfect for their defense -- and if he brings Leslie Frazier with him? Holy shit, that could be a team in two years.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I'd like to start the rumor that he will bring Martz aboard. But I don't think they got along

[RealSNR]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lovie Smith had a strong working relationship with Chris Ballard (now Chiefs director of player personnel); both are friends.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565381872435201">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Speculation in league circles is that Lovie will want to bring Ballard with him to the Bucs.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/418565696915001344">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'm getting pretty sick of Lovie's teams hiring away our front office staff as GMs.

I have no clue if Ballard has done good things, but Phil Emery was pretty solid for us

[booger]

some snippet or article out there gives Ballard some credit for speaking up for Marcus Cooper

[Al Bundy]

Pat Yasinskas ‏@PatYazESPN 24m

Hearing that Rod Marinelli, not Leslie Frazier, will be Lovie Smith's DC.

Details

[WhawhaWhat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Former Cal coach Jeff Tedford will be Lovie Smith&#39;s OC, and Rod Marinelli will be the Bucs&#39; defensive coordinator, ESPN is reporting.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/418596901169012736">January 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[tk13]

Interesting hires. I'm not sure Tedford has ever actually coached in the NFL.

[Gravedigger]

I'm not confident in Glennon though, Lovie might have similar QB problems that he had in Chicago.

[Al Bundy]

I'm not confident in Glennon though, Lovie might have similar QB problems that he had in Chicago.

Glennon won't be the starting QB next year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This is what makes them the bucs

[Easy 6]

I have no idea why people think Lovie Smith is a good coach.

I'm personally not a big fan either, wouldn't want him coaching my team, many of his philosophies are dated imo... but i'll give him his due, he did take a team to the big game with Sexy Rexy.

Like 88 said, its a decent, safe hire for tampa, he'll bring them some stability and professionalism, if not many groundbreaking ideas.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Boy, I can't help but think this is the best possible hire they could make.

Perfect for their defense -- and if he brings Leslie Frazier with him? Holy shit, that could be a team in two years.

I don't know. Glennon seems like a QB who is just good enough to get you beaten in the playoffs.

[Lex Luthor]

I have no idea why people think Lovie Smith is a good coach.
He's no Andy Reid, but his resume doesn't exactly suck: three division titles in nine years with the Bears, including one Super Bowl appearance with a shitty quarterback.

I think Tampa Bay would be thrilled if they could get something like that over the next nine years.

The one thing I can't stand about him is his name. Lovie? Really?

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/28000000/Where-There-s-a-Will-gilligans-island-28001536-731-550.jpg

[Buehler445]

I'm personally not a big fan either, wouldn't want him coaching my team, many of his philosophies are dated imo... but i'll give him his due, he did take a team to the big game with Sexy Rexy.

Like 88 said, its a decent, safe hire for tampa, he'll bring them some stability and professionalism, if not many groundbreaking ideas.

Meh, I think he's a crappy coach that made a living off of Brian Urlacher (sp?) and Dave Taub.

I freaking hate the Tampon 2 with a passion, and IMO, teams built around defense are shit given the rules.

And my god the dude has made some bad decisions. Sticking with Rex Grossman for fucking ever? Letting Martz kill the QB he overpaid for? Devin Hester as a WR? And I haven't paid a damn bit of attention to what they've been doing. I'm sure there are far more boneheaded moron decisions that I've missed.

[mcaj22]

Tedford's the guy that had all those shitty QBs then somehow churned out Aaron Rodgers right?

[Easy 6]

Meh, I think he's a crappy coach that made a living off of Brian Urlacher (sp?) and Dave Taub.

I freaking hate the Tampon 2 with a passion, and IMO, teams built around defense are shit given the rules.

And my god the dude has made some bad decisions. Sticking with Rex Grossman for ****ing ever? Letting Martz kill the QB he overpaid for? Devin Hester as a WR? And I haven't paid a damn bit of attention to what they've been doing. I'm sure there are far more boneheaded moron decisions that I've missed.

Tampon 2 LMAO yeah that defense is six kinds of yesterday.

Cant argue with much if any of this post, particularly letting Mad Martz run wild with his brand of kookery, it seems like he didn't even TRY to rein the guy in.

Brainiac pointed out some pretty nice bona fides, maybe Lovie has learned a thing or two in the interim, we'll see, tampa could've done worse imo.

[Al Bundy]

Lovie didn't use the Tampa 2 much in his final 2 years in Chicago. He adapted his defenses to the pieces he had. He will have the best or second best DT in the NFL.

[The Franchise]

And one of the best CBs. If he runs zone.....he's an idiot.

[Saccopoo]

Even more than ego... Lovie and Frazier are Cover 2 guys. Pioli is not the GM you'd want trying to get players for their defense.

http://sinfl.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dontaripoegettyid150463009.jpg?w=600&h=406
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Justin_Houston.jpg

[RealSNR]

http://sinfl.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dontaripoegettyid150463009.jpg?w=600&h=406
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Justin_Houston.jpg

I see two superb athletes who are thriving in a 1-gap 3-4 defense.

What that has to do with operating a cover-2 in a 4-3 is beyond me, but congratulations for posting pictures on CP.

[ThaVirus]

Lovie didn't use the Tampa 2 much in his final 2 years in Chicago. He adapted his defenses to the pieces he had. He will have the best or second best DT in the NFL.

And one of the best CBs. If he runs zone.....he's an idiot.

McCoy, Revis, Goldson, Mark Barron, and Lavonte David is about as underrated as it gets.

Their defense could be scary good if Banks amounts to anything.

[MMXcalibur]

Did they interview a white person before hiring Lovie?
Or does it not work that way?

[HemiEd]

Did they interview a white person before hiring Lovie?
Or does it not work that way?

Of course they didn't, it mirrors the real world.

[millz]

meh, he won't win them a bowl.

[-King-]

Meh, I think he's a crappy coach that made a living off of Brian Urlacher (sp?) and Dave Taub.

I freaking hate the Tampon 2 with a passion, and IMO, teams built around defense are shit given the rules.

And my god the dude has made some bad decisions. Sticking with Rex Grossman for fucking ever? Letting Martz kill the QB he overpaid for? Devin Hester as a WR? And I haven't paid a damn bit of attention to what they've been doing. I'm sure there are far more boneheaded moron decisions that I've missed.

How the hell do you make a living off a linebacker and special teams coach?

He was also the coach, not the GM, so he couldn't really control the teams personnel as far as QBs. He worked with what he was given, and made it work. And FWIW, Rex Grossman only started ONE full season for the Bears. Other than that season, he started 15 games in 5 seasons, with 7 of those starts coming in one season. So Lovie didn't really stick with him "forever".

[millz]

and as underrated as that D is, the league doesn't wanna see them unleash. they're constantly penalized for doing they're job. banks, lavonte david and barron really intrigue me though. on offense though, it's a complete dud.

[-King-]

Did they interview a white person before hiring Lovie?
Or does it not work that way?Of course they didn't, it mirrors the real world.

Yeah, just another case of how America is keeping down the white man.

[Sorter]

and as underrated as that D is, the league doesn't wanna see them unleash. they're constantly penalized for doing they're job. banks, lavonte david and barron really interest me though. on offense though, it's a complete dud.

wut

[Hoopsdoc]

Glennon won't be the starting QB next year.

As someone else mentioned, I thought Glennon had a heckuva year for a rookie. If he's not the starter, who is? Lovie gonna sign Grossman up?:eek:

[Al Bundy]

As someone else mentioned, I thought Glennon had a heckuva year for a rookie. If he's not the starter, who is? Lovie gonna sign Grossman up?:eek:

Glennon had a couple of games where he was decent, but overall he was terrible. As far as who they bring? I have no idea. But one of the reasons Greg was fired was because of his love affair with Glennon.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Who?

The new Ray Farmer.

[htismaqe]

Trying to recreate the Tony Dungy glory years. Pathetic.

[LoneWolf]

Glennon had a couple of games where he was decent, but overall he was terrible. As far as who they bring? I have no idea. But one of the reasons Greg was fired was because of his love affair with Glennon.

13 games started with an almost 60% completion percentage and 10 more touchdowns than interceptions is terrible? I thought Glennon played the best of any of the rookie QBs this season. The few times I watched him play, he seemed poised and confident and he has a great arm. I'd be surprised if he isn't the starter next season.

[rabblerouser]

Yeah, just another case of how America is keeping down the white man.

Well, you can't have it both ways...

[rabblerouser]

Trying to recreate the Tony Dungy glory years. Pathetic.

Unless Lovie brings the defense around and makes the organization respectable again.

If that happens, then the Glazers can fire Lovie after he loses the NFC Championship game, and hire Jay Gruden or Josh McDaniels to bring the trophy home.

Lovie, of course, goes on to Cleveland, where he wins a Super Bowl with Dan Marino's son at QB.

[Rams Fan]

Glennon had a couple of games where he was decent, but overall he was terrible. As far as who they bring? I have no idea. But one of the reasons Greg was fired was because of his love affair with Glennon.

I thought Schiano was fired because he was one of Dominik's guys and the entire Freeman situation(though he did end up being right). I could be wrong, though.

I'm actually mind fucked into how the Bucs haven't made the POs since '07. That team has had decent talent for at least the last 2 or 3 seasons, no?

[htismaqe]

Unless Lovie brings the defense around and makes the organization respectable again.

If that happens, then the Glazers can fire Lovie after he loses the NFC Championship game, and hire Jay Gruden or Josh McDaniels to bring the trophy home.

Lovie, of course, goes on to Cleveland, where he wins a Super Bowl with Dan Marino's son at QB.

ROFL

Awesome. Early POTY candidate.

[Buehler445]

Like I said, I haven't watched what the Bears did. All I know is a bunch of dudes wanted him here. I did not.

Lovie didn't use the Tampa 2 much in his final 2 years in Chicago. He adapted his defenses to the pieces he had. He will have the best or second best DT in the NFL.

If he did, then that is certainly more optimistic for you guys. If he's going to run a Tampon 2, duck and cover dude.

How the hell do you make a living off a linebacker and special teams coach?

He was also the coach, not the GM, so he couldn't really control the teams personnel as far as QBs. He worked with what he was given, and made it work. And FWIW, Rex Grossman only started ONE full season for the Bears. Other than that season, he started 15 games in 5 seasons, with 7 of those starts coming in one season. So Lovie didn't really stick with him "forever".

Well, he put together good teams with a Defense that Urlacher made and Taub's propensity to come up with ST scores covered up a lot of bad O for YEARS. Urlacher was freaking great. He made an average defense really really good for a fucking LONG time. You won't ever see him in any lists because he spent all day covering LBs, but he was really good.

When I look at Smith's work, I don't see a defensive mastermind that hones his team into a well oiled machine. I see a guy who would have had a bunch of fucking shitty ass years if it weren't for a linebacker and a ST coach. Maybe I'm wrong but I sure didn't want that shit here.

Re: The Grossman thing. I have a hard time remembering, but I remember Grossman got hurt Orton's rookie year and Orton came in and kept shit together and won a bunch of games by not turning the ball over. Then they got to the playoffs and started Grossman again, and he threw 7,642 picks in one quarter. Bottom line is, he was a guy trying to win with defense and put waaaay too much stock in a guy that couldn't help but throw deep to the wrong guy.

I'll say it again, I didn't pay too much attention to what was going on in Chicagoland, but from what I do know, I didn't want his ass in KC.

[jspchief]

Very similar to KC's Reid hire. A team with a lot of individual talent, bring in an experienced NFL coach to pull them out of a tailspin.

It's not sexy like a Chip Kelly or flavor of the month coordinator, but it can save a franchise from a decade of swirling the drain.

[htismaqe]

Very similar to KC's Reid hire. A team with a lot of individual talent, bring in an experienced NFL coach to pull them out of a tailspin.

It's not sexy like a Chip Kelly or flavor of the month coordinator, but it can save a franchise from a decade of swirling the drain.

Lovie isn't in Reid's zip code as far as being a winner though.

[jd1020]

Lovie isn't in Reid's zip code as far as being a winner though.

They are both successful failures.

[htismaqe]

They are both successful failures.

Reid hasn't won a trophy but he was consistently in contention. Lovie was pretty much nothing but mediocre.

[jd1020]

Reid hasn't won a trophy but he was consistently in contention. Lovie was pretty much nothing but mediocre.

Ummmm....

Both coaches have been to the SB exactly 1 time. Not sure how you can make this claim that one is soooooooooooooooo much better than the other.

They both failed with teams that SHOULD have won at least 1 SB.

[GordonGekko]

Lovie took a Rex Grossman led team to the Superbowl, pretty solid work there. Buccs could do a lot worse.

[GordonGekko]

Ummmm....

Both coaches have been to the SB exactly 1 time. Not sure how you can make this claim that one is soooooooooooooooo much better than the other.

They both failed with teams that SHOULD have won at least 1 SB.

Lovie had a team that SHOULD have won the SB??

I know Reid had about 3 teams that should have won...

[jd1020]

Lovie had a team that SHOULD have won the SB??

I know Reid had about 3 teams that should have won...

So you don't think that the Bears should have won a SB with that defense? All they needed was not to be married to Rex Grossman...

[GordonGekko]

So you don't think that the Bears should have won a SB with that defense? All they needed was not to be married to Rex Grossman...

I can definitely see the argument for Reid's Eagle teams, they were absolutely loaded there for a stretch.

[jspchief]

Lovie isn't in Reid's zip code as far as being a winner though.

Not saying the two coaches are comparable in terms of accolades.

The similarity is in the impact they can have on a franchise. Smith will field competitive teams. He may still be fired in 4 years for not getting the team over the hump, but he'll likely keep the Bucs from finishing last in the division year after year.

From a team owner perspective, it's the same type of hire KC made. Worst case scenario, he still keeps the team from being a laughing stock and keeps fans from wearing bags and flying banners.

[htismaqe]

So you don't think that the Bears should have won a SB with that defense? All they needed was not to be married to Rex Grossman...

Being married to Rex was Lovie's idea.

[htismaqe]

Not saying the two coaches are comparable in terms of accolades.

The similarity is in the impact they can have on a franchise. Smith will field competitive teams. He may still be fired in 4 years for not getting the team over the hump, but he'll likely keep the Bucs from finishing last in the division year after year.

From a team owner perspective, it's the same type of hire KC made. Worst case scenario, he still keeps the team from being a laughing stock and keeps fans from wearing bags and flying banners.

Oh yeah, I can agree with that.

[jd1020]

Being married to Rex was Lovie's idea.

Your point?

Lovie was married to Rex...

56% win pct vs 59% win pct.

3-3 in the playoffs vs 10-9 in the playoffs.

1 SB loss vs 1 SB loss.

I know its hard for Chiefs fans to open their eyes and see reality, but the reality is that Andy Reid is a successful failure like Lovie Smith.

Lovie Smith lost because of his infatuation with Rex. Just wait til Reid ultimately loses because he still hasn't figured out how to micromanage a game clock.

[dirk digler]

Lovie won't be bringing Cutler with him, Bears just extended him for 7 years.

[Buehler445]

Lovie won't be bringing Cutler with him, Bears just extended him for 7 years.

Really? I poked around and didn't see anything about it.

[jd1020]

Really? I poked around and didn't see anything about it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jay+cutler

[MTG#10]

Good hire, Lovie has a lot of experience and escalades/ JC

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Your point?

Lovie was married to Rex...

56% win pct vs 59% win pct.

3-3 in the playoffs vs 10-9 in the playoffs.

1 SB loss vs 1 SB loss.

I know its hard for Chiefs fans to open their eyes and see reality, but the reality is that Andy Reid is a successful failure like Lovie Smith.

Lovie Smith lost because of his infatuation with Rex. Just wait til Reid ultimately loses because he still hasn't figured out how to micromanage a game clock.

What the fuck ever ROFL Herp other than 7 fewer playoff wins dey da same!!!!

[Buehler445]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jay+cutler

Thx.

[jd1020]

What the **** ever ROFL Herp other than 7 fewer playoff wins dey da same!!!!

Care to guess which one has been coaching longer?

[MotherfuckerJones]

Not saying the two coaches are comparable in terms of escalades.

The similarity is in the impact they can have on a franchise. Smith will field competitive teams. He may still be fired in 4 years for not getting the team over the hump, but he'll likely keep the Bucs from finishing last in the division year after year.

From a team owner perspective, it's the same type of hire KC made. Worst case scenario, he still keeps the team from being a laughing stock and keeps fans from wearing bags and flying banners.

FYP

[htismaqe]

Your point?

Lovie was married to Rex...

56% win pct vs 59% win pct.

3-3 in the playoffs vs 10-9 in the playoffs.

1 SB loss vs 1 SB loss.

I know its hard for Chiefs fans to open their eyes and see reality, but the reality is that Andy Reid is a successful failure like Lovie Smith.

Lovie Smith lost because of his infatuation with Rex. Just wait til Reid ultimately loses because he still hasn't figured out how to micromanage a game clock.

I'm not suggesting Andy Reid is "all that".

Lovie is just like Tony Dungy and Herm. No thanks.

[Easy 6]

Like I've already said. Lovie will atleast bring some stability and professionalism to Tampa, compared to the last two jokers... that's a good start.

But he's also one of the stodgiest guys out there, he may situationally change it up here and there, but his foundation is the outdated cover 2 zone and he isn't going to be changing his stripes. The only time I've seen him attempt to think outside the box was when he brought in Martz, which I applauded at the time "hey not bad, put some explosive offense with that defense for once".

But of course that backfired because Martz went full retard like some 12 year old playing Madden, so after that, you can bet Lovie wont be trying anything explosive or new again.

[MahiMike]

The Tampa Two is BACK! It's the 90's again. Why not hire Romeo too while you're at it.

[Sorter]

Lovie doesn't just run Tampa 2 every play. Nobody does.


This is the same defensive scheme that just last year was absolutely destroying teams.

[mcaj22]

Lovie doesn't just run Tampa 2 every play. Nobody does.


This is the same defensive scheme that just last year was absolutely destroying teams.

7000 year old Kiffin did in Dallas almost exclusively which is why they gave up a billion yards. He doesn't know anything else and he ran the Tampa 2 with Rob Ryans 34 players, lol. And got torched

[Al Bundy]

13 games started with an almost 60% completion percentage and 10 more touchdowns than interceptions is terrible? I thought Glennon played the best of any of the rookie QBs this season. The few times I watched him play, he seemed poised and confident and he has a great arm. I'd be surprised if he isn't the starter next season.

All dinking and dunking, some down field throws, but for the most part he doesn't have a deep pass.

[Al Bundy]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 16m

RT @mortreport: Bucs reach deal w Jeff Tedford as OC. Source:Chiefs director of personnel Chris Ballard is leading candidate as next Bucs GM

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 16m

RT @mortreport: Bucs reach deal w Jeff Tedford as OC. Source:Chiefs director of personnel Chris Ballard is leading candidate as next Bucs GM

Tell Lovie Dungy to stay away from our personnel guy!!

[Al Bundy]

Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 4m

Filed to ESPN: Leslie Frazier just text me "going to Tampa." Frazier then told me he will be the next defensive coordinator for the Bucs.

[TEX]

I'm not suggesting Andy Reid is "all that".

Lovie is just like Tony Dungy and Herm. No thanks.

I think that's racist...:rolleyes:

[booger]

Looks like Lovie is going to take our asst special teams coach Kevin O'Dea too


https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/419494685460017153

Look for #Bucs and Lovie Smith to hire Kevin O'Dea as special teams coordinator. O'Dea has worked for Smith in Chicago, and in Tampa before.

[Easy 6]

Fine, he can have Toubs assistant.

NOW LEAVE US ALONE LOVIE.

[Sorter]

Looks like Lovie is going to take our asst special teams coach Kevin O'Dea too


https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/419494685460017153

Look for #Bucs and Lovie Smith to hire Kevin O'Dea as special teams coordinator. O'Dea has worked for Smith in Chicago, and in Tampa before.

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[booger]

not a huge loss. Kind of a Steve Hoffman type. Specializes with the kickers mostly

[Al Bundy]

Bucs bring in Hardy Nickerson as the Linebackers coach.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Based on what I&#39;m hearing, it&#39;s unlikely <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bucs&amp;src=hash">#Bucs</a> will be able to hire <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> personnel man Chris Ballard since Lovie Smith has final say.</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonPhilCole) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole/statuses/420939113098117121">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Good news

[htismaqe]

I think that's racist...:rolleyes:

ROFL

[The Franchise]

What has Tedford ever done to deserve an OC job?

[Rausch]

Reid hasn't won a trophy but he was consistently in contention. Lovie was pretty much nothing but mediocre.

He's like a lot of hot coordinators: great Coordinator but meh/horrible HC.

[booger]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Based on what I'm hearing, it's unlikely <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bucs&amp;src=hash">#Bucs</a> will be able to hire <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> personnel man Chris Ballard since Lovie Smith has final say.</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonPhilCole) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole/statuses/420939113098117121">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Good news


I'd expect to see him promoted to either VP of player personnel or asst GM then if they basically blocked the move

[Jimmya]

Can kc promote Sutton?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bucs&amp;src=hash">#Bucs</a> officially asked for permission to talk to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> personnel exec Chris Ballard. I&#39;m led to believe it will be turned down. We&#39;ll see</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonPhilCole) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole/statuses/421042786423816192">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Easy 6]

IF... Lovie wasnt such a damn idiot about offense, he'd be doing everything possible to get Norv Turner, he may not be a HC but he's an excellent, proven OC at the pro level.

But nope, go get the unproven college guy, what a maroon.

[booger]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bucs&amp;src=hash">#Bucs</a> officially asked for permission to talk to <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> personnel exec Chris Ballard. I'm led to believe it will be turned down. We'll see</p>&mdash; Jason Cole (@JasonPhilCole) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole/statuses/421042786423816192">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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going to depend on power of final say and how that is termed in the contract I would Imagine. A structure with both reporting to ownership like Reid and Dorsey have would be enough to make it a promotion I would guess so it looks as if Lovie has final say. Just my opinion. If Lovie just wants his own personnel guy and to answer to Lovie while having the GM title is what teams, KC in this instance, are trying to protect against it looks like

[Al Bundy]

IF... Lovie wasnt such a damn idiot about offense, he'd be doing everything possible to get Norv Turner, he may not be a HC but he's an excellent, proven OC at the pro level.

But nope, go get the unproven college guy, what a maroon.

For all we know he did reach out and Turner said no.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 6m
Buccaneers have requested permission to speak to Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross for vacant GM spot.

[Easy 6]

For all we know he did reach out and Turner said no.

You may be right, but I honestly doubt it... the talent cupboard isnt threadbare down there on either side of the ball, Norv would have had some nice toys to get started with and if Lovie can get the defense up and running quickly they'd be poised for a turnaround similar to KC's.

Offense has always been Lovies achilles heel, he lurches from old fogies like Ron Turner to mad scientists who've went too far like Martz and everything inbetween.

Not trying to totally poop on your new boss, he'll bring some consistency, some respectability back... but he can never get the offense just right, he can never settle on what exactly it is that he wants.

Living where I live, I've watched a ton of Bears football and thats my two cents on Lovie, FWIW.

[booger]

Lionel Vital to interview for Bucs G.M. job

Posted by Mike Florio on January 8, 2014, 8:52 AM EST

Multiple reports have indicated that Chiefs director of pro personnel Chris Ballard has become the leading candidate to succeed Mark Dominik as the Tampa Bay General Manager.

But Ballard isn’t the only candidate. Per a league source, Falcons director of player personnel Lionel Vital will interview for the job.

Vital, who become the director of player personnel after Dave Caldwell was hired to be the General Manager in Jacksonville, has learned most recently under Falcons G.M. Thomas Dimitroff. Also during his 23 years of experience, Vital worked with men like Bill Belichick, Ozzie Newsome, and Scott Pioli.

If Vital gets the job, he’d become the third straight Falcons director of player personnel to land a General Manager position, following Caldwell in 2013 and Rams G.M. Les Snead in 2012.

During a Tuesday appearance on PFT Live, Buccaneers coach Lovie Smith declined to address whether his contract gives him final say over personnel, but Smith said he’ll be involved in the interviews for the G.M. position — as he was in Chicago two years ago. He added that the team wants to find a G.M. “as soon as possible,” and that as of Tuesday the search had already started.

[Al Bundy]

You may be right, but I honestly doubt it... the talent cupboard isnt threadbare down there on either side of the ball, Norv would have had some nice toys to get started with and if Lovie can get the defense up and running quickly they'd be poised for a turnaround similar to KC's.

Offense has always been Lovies achilles heel, he lurches from old fogies like Ron Turner to mad scientists who've went too far like Martz and everything inbetween.

Not trying to totally poop on your new boss, he'll bring some consistency, some respectability back... but he can never get the offense just right, he can never settle on what exactly it is that he wants.

Living where I live, I've watched a ton of Bears football and thats my two cents on Lovie, FWIW.

Ohh I know. This one has been discussed at length on pewter report. But as far as I can tell Turner is still under contract from Cleveland.

[Titty Meat]

Why wont the Chiefs allow Ballard to speak with the Bucs?

[Rams Fan]

Why wont the Chiefs allow Ballard to speak with the Bucs?

In previous years the Bucs refused for their assistants to be interview for coordinator jobs on other teams.

[booger]

Why wont the Chiefs allow Ballard to speak with the Bucs?

I'm guessing they are arguing it would be more of a lateral move if he doesn't have final say over the roster if Lovie does. So it would be a promotion in pay and title only.

[Rausch]

Why wont the Chiefs allow Ballard to speak with the Bucs?

Because fuck them...

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> director of player personnel Chris Ballard will not be taking the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Buccaneers&amp;src=hash">#Buccaneers</a> general manager job, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/421295866905772032">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source said the Chiefs actually blocked him from taking the job, which does not include final say on personnel. So he remains with KC.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/421295902381182976">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Chiefshrink]

Lovie Smith = Wade Phillips

[Al Bundy]

Lovie Smith = Wade Phillips

STFU

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chiefs says director of pro personnel Chris Ballard and his family decided to stay in Kansas City. More to come on PFT, after PFT Live.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/statuses/421322245865107456">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Al Bundy]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 26m

Titans VP Lake Dawson, Giants VP Marc Ross scheduled to interview for Bucs and Dolphins GM jobs. Packers exec Alonzo Highsmith also on radar

[mcaj22]

good to see the Chiefs finally tell someone to piss off

[ROYC75]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 26m

Titans VP Lake Dawson, Giants VP Marc Ross scheduled to interview for Bucs and Dolphins GM jobs. Packers exec Alonzo Highsmith also on radar

Titans VP Lake Dawson .... hmm sounds familiar, former Chief maybe

[Titty Meat]

Lake Dawson would be a shit hire

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Bucs have hired <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a> assistant special teams coach Kevin O’Dea to be their special teams coordinator, joining Lovie Smith in Tampa.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/421414615747006464">January 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Fritz88]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 26m

Titans VP Lake Dawson, Giants VP Marc Ross scheduled to interview for Bucs and Dolphins GM jobs. Packers exec Alonzo Highsmith also on radar

Carl Peterson has no shot at the 'fins GM vacancy?

[Chiefshrink]

STFU

Truth hurts !! Get emotionally prepared.:p

[htismaqe]

They're going to give Lovie final say over personnel? ROFL

[Jimmya]

Bucs should be better due to the fact that they have decent talent

[Buehler445]

They're going to give Lovie final say over personnel? ROFL

Yeah, ouch.

[BlackHelicopters]

They're going to give Lovie final say over personnel? ROFL

No way.

[durtyrute]

When your team sucks hire a black coach to place the blame on, works every time. Romeo, Lovie in Chicago, Lovie now, fuck nut in Minnesota, Singletary. Even Tomlin, team coming off a Superbowl, not expected to stay good for so long.

[Easy 6]

When your team sucks hire a black coach to place the blame on, works every time. Romeo, Lovie in Chicago, Lovie now, **** nut in Minnesota, Singletary. Even Tomlin, team coming off a Superbowl, not expected to stay good for so long.

:facepalm:

[TEX]

When your team sucks hire a black coach to place the blame on, works every time. Romeo, Lovie in Chicago, Lovie now, **** nut in Minnesota, Singletary. Even Tomlin, team coming off a Superbowl, not expected to stay good for so long.

You're on a roll but but you forgot Herm ****ING Edwards - Or does he not count because he's half white? Which no doubt is the "good" half that can coach...:rolleyes: