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Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:30 PM

Some stuff in the news about him recently. What do you think the odds are he hits free agency, and the Chiefs end up in pursuit?

Been reading tons of Maclin stuff today.

Video is in the link. Looks pretty smooth.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/01/watch_jeremy_maclin_does_sprints_in_eagles_practice_facility.html

WATCH: Jeremy Maclin does sprints in Eagles practice facility
By Eliot Shorr-Parks
on January 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM

One of the biggest questions the Eagles will have to answer this offseason is whether or not they want to bring back Jeremy Maclin.

Maclin has been vocal about his desire to return to Philadelphia (http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/01/jeremy_maclin_says_he_wants_to_return_to_eagles.html), and on Monday he posted a video showing he is working hard to make it happen.

The below video was posted on Maclin's Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/jrUlF6u5hX/) account, with the caption: "It's what u do when the lights aren't on u... #18 #realcomebackstory"

It's hard to tell what to make of the video, and how optimistic fans should feel about Maclin's recovery from a torn ACL because of it.

Still, if you are hoping Maclin does return, seeing him sprint in the Eagles practice facility -- and look perfectly healthy while doing it -- likely only increases those wishes.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:31 PM

Snapplez

01-30-2014, 02:33 PM

Foles still has like 2 years left on his contract? Why the hell would they re-sign him so soon if it meant losing Maclin?

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:34 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310330/article/jeremy-maclin-riley-cooper-to-resign-with-eagles

Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper to re-sign with Eagles?
By Chris Wesseling
Published: Jan. 7, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
Updated: Jan. 7, 2014 at 02:33 p.m.

DeSean Jackson is angling for a pay raise (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000309914/article/desean-jackson-i-deserve-a-new-contract-from-eagles) with three years left on his current contract.

Higher on the Philadelphia Eagles' offseason priority list will be the fate of impending free-agent wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper.

Maclin said Monday, via CSN Philly, that he "definitely" wants to return because his "heart is in Philly (https://twitter.com/GeoffMosherCSN/status/420214197734371328)."

Coming off training-camp ACL surgery, Maclin acknowledged that he might have to accept a one-year contract to rebuild his value.

"I'm a realist, so I understand that's a possibility (http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/01/06/maclin-cooper-set-hit-market/)," Maclin said, per Philadelphia Magazine.

Asked if he would consider giving the Eagles a hometown discount, Maclin replied, "Money isn't everything. I just have to see what's best for me, look at the numbers, look at the personnel and I think we'll make our decision based on that."

Maclin said late last week that he's ahead of schedule in his knee rehab and expects to be ready (http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-04/sports/45837962_1_chip-kelly-eagles-center-jason-kelce-eagles-guard-todd-herremans) for spring workouts.

If Maclin returns, there's a good chance he will be joined by Cooper. Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is leaving the door open (https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/420308879571173376) for both players to return.

"I want to be back (http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-06/sports/45922031_1_riley-cooper-jeremy-maclin-desean-jackson)," Cooper said after Saturday's season-ending loss (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014010401/2013/POST18/saints@eagles), via the Philadelphia Daily News. "I love the coaching staff and I feel like I fit in the system here."

Cooper benefited not only from coach Chip Kelly's offense, but also the ascension of Nick Foles at quarterback.

After catching just eight passes for 93 yards and one touchdown from Michael Vick in the first five games of the season, Cooper racked up 45 receptions for 812 yards and eight touchdowns in the final eight games.

Cooper might draw interest from other teams on the heels of a breakout season, but his best career move is to re-sign with the Eagles.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:35 PM

http://fansided.com/2014/01/22/nfl-free-agency-rumors-eagles-expected-re-sign-jeremy-maclin-one-year-deal/#!t0sHk

NFL Free Agency rumors: Eagles expected to re-sign Jeremy Maclin to one-year deal
By Josh Sanchez
Jan 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin is set to become a free agent in the offseason, but he is coming off of a torn ACL and his value may take a hit. It was initially believed that the Eagles would allow him to walk in free agency and Maclin was linked to former head coach Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs, but now there may be a change in plans.

According to CSN Philly, the Eagles are expected to re-sign Maclin to a one-year deal.

Unfortunately for fellow wide receiver Riley Cooper, that means he is likely to be on the outs.

From the CSN Philly report (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-tight-end-depth-could-lead-changes):

With Cooper and Maclin slated to be free agents, it’s unlikely that both will be back. The hunch here is that Cooper walks in free agency and Maclin comes back under a one-year deal. Avant has one year left on his deal but underwent a major drop off in catches and receiving yards and isn’t much of a downfield threat.

Maclin is a better fit in Chip Kelly’s offense so the news isn’t a big surprise, but the Eagles will still run a risk at losing both Cooper and Maclin in the offseason.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:36 PM

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/maclin-give-me-one-year-deal-thats-cool

Maclin: 'Give me a one-year deal, that's cool'
CSN Philly
January 13, 2014, 4:00 pm

For Eagles free-agent-to-be Jeremy Maclin, a one-year deal is a realistic possibility.

And he knows it.

"I understand it could be a possibility that [the ACL tear] may scare some teams off, or a team may want to do a one-year deal as opposed to a long-term contract," Maclin told CSN's Derrick Gunn in an exclusive interview Monday. "That's the game, that's the business."

Maclin tore the ACL in his right knee at the end of July and didn't play a single snap this season.

But he's still regarded as one of the more intriguing free-agent wide receivers because of his speed, hands, first-round pedigree and the production he gave the Eagles from 2009-12 -- an average of 64 catches, 863 yards and six TDs.

"Both sides have had talks," Maclin said about returning to the Eagles. "I respect [GM] Howie [Roseman]. I understand this is a business, I understand he has to look out for what's best for the organization, and that's what he's supposed to do. I have all the faith that he's going to do what's best for the organization, whether that's deciding to keep me there or moving in another direction. I'm a realist, I understand that's a possibility.

"For a team that wants to give me a one-year deal, that's cool, I'll just go out there and ball out, do the things I think I can do. Hopefully get that type of deal I'm looking for. If a team wants to give me a long-term deal, I'll go out there and still do the same thing."

Eric Decker of the Broncos is the class of the free-agent WR market. Maclin fits into the next tier, with wideouts like Hakeem Nicks, Anquan Boldin, James Jones, Golden Tate, Emmanuel Sanders, Riley Cooper and Julian Edelman.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:37 PM

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/01/23/kansas-city-chiefs-rumors-team-to-pursue-wr-jeremy-maclin/

Kansas City Chiefs Rumors: Team To Pursue WR Jeremy Maclin
by Andrew Fisher
January 23, 2014 5:18 pm EST

The Kansas City Chiefs weren’t exactly known for their high-flying offense in 2013. Jamaal Charles had a ridiculous season, but outside of the talented running back, the Chiefs didn’t have many players turning heads on the offensive side of the ball. As the season progressed Andy Reid did open up the playbook a little more, but most of us will remember the 2013 Chiefs for their defense and for the performances by Charles.

So naturally, free agency rumors have already started to swirl in Kansas City. Most fans are wondering who the team will bring in to help boost the offense. A popular name that’s being kicked around the internet? Jeremy Maclin.

The talented WR of course sat out all of 2013 with a torn ACL. However, he’s expected to make a full recovery, as most players with repaired ACLs do these days. He’s also set to hit the free agent market on March 11th, which is why many are connecting the dots and realigning him with Reid in KC.

So the all important questions – (1) should the Chiefs open up their checkbook and pay Maclin? (2) will he want to play there?

The Eagles reportedly want to re-sign Maclin and are also prepared to let Riley Cooper walk in free agency. We’ll have to see who they choose, but you’d have to think they’ll lean towards Maclin, who clearly has a higher ceiling. Philly won’t have enough funds to re-sign both WRs, so it’s entirely possible that the Chiefs could end up with the guy they don’t want. Either way, they’d get a WR that’s familiar with Reid’s system.

If it’s not Maclin or Cooper, it’s got to be someone else for Kansas City. The offense they put on the field in 2013 was simply not Super Bowl-caliber. Until pieces are added, the Chiefs will remain in the tier of potential Wild Card teams. Pursuing Maclin would be a great way to start the process of getting out of that tier.

Easy 6

01-30-2014, 02:39 PM

Starting to sound like its gonna be tough to bring him here, so we get a guy in the draft, but we're still gonna need a vet from free agency.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:39 PM

http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-27/sports/46641356_1_riley-cooper-jeremy-maclin-howie-roseman

Receiver draft class may determine Eagles future of Cooper, Maclin
By Jeff McLane
Posted: January 27, 2014

MOBILE, Ala. - The Senior Bowl, once again, was not the place to find wide receivers who will be selected in the first round of the draft.

But buzz had already developed here about a group of underclassmen who could make the 2014 draft the deepest at the receiver position in years. And that could affect how the Eagles approach re-signing Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin.

Free agency is more than six weeks away, though, and a poll of coaches, executives, scouts, and agents suggested the Eagles would likely keep both wide receivers. As one NFC executive put it, "Who else will like Cooper as much as Chip [Kelly]?" And as an AFC coach posited, "Only the Eagles know how healthy Maclin is."

The market will ultimately decide the worth of both players, but the Eagles have exclusive rights to re-sign Cooper and Maclin before March 11. The team and each player's representative have already had communication, but the receivers could opt to test the market.

Cooper's value is up for debate. He had a career year filling in for the injured Maclin, catching 47 passes for 835 yards and eight touchdowns. His 17.8 yards per reception was third best in the NFL.

Before 2013, Cooper caught 46 passes for 678 yards and five touchdowns in three seasons, mostly as a fourth or fifth receiver. He said the significant increase in production was due to his taking advantage of an opportunity.

Some have argued - and general manager Howie Roseman could certainly make the same claim in negotiations - that Cooper benefited from Kelly's system. The Eagles head coach, though, has given the majority of credit to the 26-year-old receiver.

Kelly's commitment to Cooper goes beyond his performance. While he admired the receiver's toughness and willingness to block, Kelly appreciated Cooper's response to adversity the most, according to a source close to the coach. Cooper rewarded his coach after he stood behind him when his racial slur threatened to derail Kelly's first season before it even started.

But the Eagles are sure to use the incident as a bargaining chip. In December, one NFL executive told The Inquirer that he would pause before signing Cooper because the addition could disrupt locker-room harmony. But, he added: "Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it."

"It's hard for me to predict how another locker room would handle it," Roseman said last week in Mobile. "I know what kind of player [Cooper] is to be around. . . . He's a very up-front guy. He knows that he made a mistake. He's a guy that we drafted. Had a good year for us. Works really hard. And so, he's a young asset."

Maclin was drafted a year before Cooper, but he's 10 months younger. His resumé is longer, too. He has 165 catches, 1,939 yards, and 13 touchdowns more than Cooper. But Maclin has torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee twice - the second time occurring at the start of training camp in July.

He said after the season that he realized he may have to accept a one-year contract to prove his health. The Eagles will have firsthand knowledge of his progress. Maclin will rehab at the NovaCare Complex over the next six weeks.

If he remains unsigned after March 11, any other team would be free to work Maclin out. With a thin free-agent field - the Broncos' Eric Decker, the Giants' Hakeem Nicks, and the Seahawks' Golden Tate are three of the most attractive - Maclin could get a multiyear offer despite the injury.

But the wide-receiver depth in the draft does provide alternatives. Seven receivers, all underclassmen - Sammy Watkins of Clemson, Mike Evans of Texas A&M, Marquise Lee of Southern Cal, Kelvin Benjamin of Florida State, Allen Robinson of Penn State, Odell Beckham of Louisiana State, and Brandon Cooks of Oregon State - could go in the first round.

The talent doesn't end there, though, and the Eagles could look to the later rounds for replacements if either Cooper or Maclin leaves or veteran Jason Avant is waived.

The Eagles have around $20 million in salary-cap space, but they don't have a franchise quarterback contract, and they need to look ahead, especially if their young core improves and the team plans on retaining its own draft picks.

"Can we keep this team together?" Roseman said. "These drafts come around really quickly, so all of sudden, you get there and you go: 'Wow, this guy is going to be [beyond] his third year next year. We want to keep him here.' "

So the Eagles will look to save a buck here and there on their own players, even if they're under contract. And there could be a trade or two, although predraft swapping is hard to pull off. But there likely won't be as much cost-cutting and movement as some expect, judging from the consensus among NFL people during Senior Bowl week.

The Eagles like all three of their tight ends - Brent Celek, Zach Ertz, and James Casey - and just because Celek ($4 million salary) and Casey ($4 million) get raises in 2014, it doesn't mean they won't be back.

Todd Herremans ($3 million) should return at right guard. Inside linebacker DeMeco Ryans ($6.8 million) will likely have to take a pay cut. Outside linebacker Trent Cole ($5 million) could be easier to trade this offseason. Brandon Graham's future as an outside linebacker with the Eagles could depend upon Cole's whereabouts.

The Eagles may want to extend left tackle Jason Peters ($9.65 million), who has one year left on his deal. Cary Williams ($4.75 million) and Bradley Fletcher ($3.275 million) are relatively cheap for starting cornerbacks.

Even though a former coach said free agent Nate Allen's biggest drawback was that he was "afraid to hit," the safety ought to be back, although there are no guarantees. The only Eagles free agent who appeared to be a slam dunk to return was punter Donnie Jones.

BossChief

01-30-2014, 02:40 PM

Cooper, Boldin, Maclin or even Edelman would be good pickups at WR, but I just think we would be smart to wait and draft one unless the price is right on one of these guys.

POND_OF_RED

01-30-2014, 02:40 PM

If he's willing to sign a short term contract, we'd be stupid to not at least make an offer.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:42 PM

Tons of stuff on Maclin (http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/1/21/5324296/nfc-east-notebook-jan-21-jeremy-maclin-a-fit-for-the-chiefs):

Philadelphia Eagles

Wide receiver will certainly be an interesting position to watch during the offseason, as both Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper are impending free agents. While Maclin has already stated he's willing to accept a one-year deal to remain in Philly, other teams are expected to show interest.

According to the Kansas City Star (http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/18/4761227/ways-the-chiefs-can-upgrade-in.html), the Kansas City Chiefs are one of those teams. Despite injuries plaguing each of the past two seasons, Maclin is expected to medically cleared for training camp and perhaps a fit with his former coach Andy Reid could be a fit.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 02:44 PM

DeSean Jackson may be a factor here, too, as he's hunting for a new contract this offseason...

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/26205/20140106/desean-jackson-rumors-philadelphia-eagles-make-jeremy-maclin-riley-cooper-free-agency-wr-new-contract-2014.htm

DeSean Jackson Rumors: Philadelphia Eagles Make Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper Priorities in Free Agency Over WR After New Contract Requested in 2014

With the Philadelphia Eagles season over following a loss to the New Orleans Saints and already wide receiver DeSean Jackson is thinking about a pay raise. Just two years removed from signing a long-term contract extension, Jackson is requesting a new deal because he thinks he deserves it.

Jackson has three years remaining on his five-year deal signed back in 2010. He is set to make $10.5 million in 2014 after making $7 million this year plus some performance bonus cash. Jackson's total deal is worth $50 million, including a $10 million signing bonus and yet, Jackson is not satisfied.

"I definitely feel it's something deserving," Jackson said, via CSNPhilly.com. "We'll see how that plays out, and hopefully we can work things out smoothly and not have to worry about anything out of the ordinary. But I definitely feel like it's deserving. I'm proven in this league, and after this past year, went out there, no distractions, and just really put it all in for my team and went out there and had a lot of success, so we'll see how it goes."

Jackson did have a career-high year after putting up 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns off 82 catches. He finished the regular season ranking ninth in the NFL in both yards and yards after the catch. He is currently the eighth-richest receiver, sitting just behind Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson. While he feels his salary is good, he is hopeful his agent can work out a better extension.

"Honestly, I feel very confident that my agent will work something out," Jackson said. "I feel like I have a great agent, that's what he's for, that's what his job is, all I have to really worry about is staying out of trouble and keeping my nose clean and doing the things I need to do, working on my craft and playing football. I think this year was a big statement for my team and for myself and the things we were able to accomplish and do. I definitely feel it's deserving. Hopefully we can get it worked out and see how it goes."

General manager Howie Roseman did not offer up any comments regarding Jackson's request for a new contract. The Eagles have plenty more to worry about over offering the wide receiver yet another extension. Wide receiver Jeremy Maclin is set to become a free agent. He tore his ACL at the start of the season and is hopeful the Eagles give him a new deal.

"My heart is in Philadelphia," Maclin said. "I would like to stay if I can. We've had talks about the future plans, and stuff like that. I have an idea of what they are thinking."

Receiver Riley Cooper is also due to become a free agent after a strong 2013 season where he showed plenty of chemistry with Nick Foles. Also, quarterback Michael Vick's contract is up which is another issue in itself.

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 02:47 PM

BossChief

01-30-2014, 02:52 PM

Desean Jackson is a damn fool.

He is slated to make 10.5 in base salary next year and then basically 10/yr after that.

He wants more than that?

Rausch

01-30-2014, 02:52 PM

I don't see why Maclin wouldn't want to come to KC. He'd get to play for the coach that drafted him.....in an offense that he knows and has experience in. Plus factor in that we have dick at WR outside of Bowe.

Worst case: he sucks. Right now everyone 2 deep outside of Hemingway sucks.

Best case: He steals a no 2 or 3 slot and produces.

If we can get his gimp ass cheap I'd be all for it...

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 02:54 PM

Worst case: he sucks. Right now everyone 2 deep outside of Hemingway sucks.

Best case: He steals a no 2 or 3 slot and produces.

If we can get his gimp ass cheap I'd be all for it...

Best case scenario? We sign him to a 1 year prove it deal and he succeeds. Because 2014 is also going to be a prove it year for Bowe as well. Maclin succeeds and Bowe doesn't? Cut Bowe and give Maclin a new deal. They both do? We work at getting Maclin locked up. Neither of them succeed? We're looking for a #1 WR in 2015.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 02:57 PM

Maclin succeeds and Bowe doesn't? Cut Bowe and give Maclin a new deal.

You can't do that because in a leading role Maclin WILL get hurt.

His best option would be a mixed role in this offense (slot, split out) with about 20 snaps a game...

BossChief

01-30-2014, 02:57 PM

I don't see why Maclin wouldn't want to come to KC. He'd get to play for the coach that drafted him.....in an offense that he knows and has experience in. Plus factor in that we have dick at WR outside of Bowe.

If all he is looking for is a short term deal and Philly doesn't want to give it to him...there has to be a significant reason.

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 02:59 PM

If all he is looking for is a short term deal and Philly doesn't want to give it to him...there has to be a significant reason.

I don't think he's "looking" for a short term deal. I think he's stating that he's OK with taking a short term deal. If KC comes out and offers him a 2-3 year contract....he'll take it.

Titty Meat

01-30-2014, 02:59 PM

Explain the logic in wanting a guy who's had 2 ACL injuries to he same knee? If the Eagles let him go it means he's damaged goods IE: not the player he once was yet many of you think this is how we will contend with Denver? Please.

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 02:59 PM

You can't do that because in a leading role Maclin WILL get hurt.

His best option would be a mixed role in this offense (slot, split out) with about 20 snaps a game...

Then don't sign him. 20 snaps a game is fucking retarded.

Titty Meat

01-30-2014, 03:02 PM

If you're going to sign a WR to compete sign Golden Tate.

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:03 PM

If you're going to sign a WR to compete sign Golden Tate.

Oh, I'm fully on that bandwagon.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:07 PM

Then don't sign him. 20 snaps a game is ****ing retarded.

You replace McCluster-fuck with him and rethink that statement...

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:08 PM

You replace McCluster-fuck with him and rethink that statement...

Or you sign Golden Tate and he plays more than 20 snaps a game.

Titty Meat

01-30-2014, 03:08 PM

Oh, I'm fully on that bandwagon.

Yeah being a Notre Dame fan you know how good he is. He does more and isn't injured like Maclin. The only reason he's a free agent is because Seattle has a bunch of guys they need to re-sign and foolishly traded for Harvin which I was against.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:10 PM

Yeah being a Notre Dame fan you know how good he is. He does more and isn't injured like Maclin. The only reason he's a free agent is because Seattle has a bunch of guys they need to re-sign and foolishly traded for Harvin which I was against.

I wanted him and Clausen (my bad) on draft day.

And he'll be a free agent because he drops too many passes for the type of WR he is...

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:11 PM

Yeah being a Notre Dame fan you know how good he is. He does more and isn't injured like Maclin. The only reason he's a free agent is because Seattle has a bunch of guys they need to re-sign and foolishly traded for Harvin which I was against.

Golden Tate is a rich man's McCluster. A little less ST ability....but his WR ability is fucking 100 times better than McClusters. It just so happens that they were drafted in the same fucking round. We should have Tate instead of McCluster right now.

Gravedigger

01-30-2014, 03:12 PM

Grab Maclin and draft Best WR at #1. Get your Safety and CB out of FA or rounds 2-4.

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:15 PM

I wanted him and Clausen (my bad) on draft day.

And he'll be a free agent because he drops too many passes for the type of WR he is...

lolwut? Do you know what you're talking about?

2013 - 2 drops. Drop percentage of 2% (98 targets)
2012 - 2 drops. Drop percentage of 3% (67 targets)
2011 - 0 drops. Drop percentage of 0% (18 targets)
2010 - 3 drops. Drop percentage of 7.7% (39 targets)

His worst year was his rookie year.

-King-

01-30-2014, 03:16 PM

Fuck Cooper.
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Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:16 PM

Grab Maclin and draft Best WR at #1. Get your Safety and CB out of FA or rounds 2-4.

Likely the 2nd best FS in the league is a FA right now.

To me that's the priority sign. The Byrd is the word...

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:19 PM

Likely the 2nd best FS in the league is a FA right now.

To me that's the priority sign. The Byrd is the word...

You want to pay him $9 million a year?

BossChief

01-30-2014, 03:20 PM

There are at least 20 receivers in this class with a third or higher grade. I think the wise money would be spending fa money on a position we have a need at and is thin in the draft.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:22 PM

lolwut? Do you know what you're talking about?

2013 - 2 drops. Drop percentage of 2% (98 targets)
2012 - 2 drops. Drop percentage of 3% (67 targets)
2011 - 0 drops. Drop percentage of 0% (18 targets)
2010 - 3 drops. Drop percentage of 7.7% (39 targets)

His worst year was his rookie year.

Did you just dig that up or watch the guy play?

His first two years he was an afterthought and didn't do much to convince the world he was anything else.

I don't know where you stats come from and don't care. Drops are like "deserved sacks."

Every play can be debated. My argument is until the last two years he was completely forgetable...

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:23 PM

There are at least 20 receivers in this class with a third or higher grade. I think the wise money would be spending fa money on a position we have a need at and is thin in the draft.

This...

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:24 PM

Did you just dig that up or watch the guy play?

His first two years he was an afterthought and didn't do much to convince the world he was anything else.

I don't know where you stats come from and don't care. Drops are like "deserved sacks."

Every play can be debated. My argument is until the last two years he was completely forgetable...

Both. Seriously? Have I watched Golden Tate play? I've watched him play since his first year at ND until now.

So a rookie WR didn't come into his own until his 3rd season. Color me surprised.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:25 PM

You want to pay him $9 million a year?

If we can take the weakest position on the field and make it the 2nd best in the league I'd pay $14 mil of Clark's money, boot Albert, boot Robinson, and let McClusterfuck walk...

Rausch

01-30-2014, 03:27 PM

Both. Seriously? Have I watched Golden Tate play? I've watched him play since his first year at ND until now.

So a rookie WR didn't come into his own until his 3rd season. Color me surprised.

You admit I've been watching. We both know he didn't do fuck-all until year 3 and even that year was mediocre.

Only THIS year did he really impress.

I'm not saying we shouldn't look at him but I think he'll end up in DC with a retarded DC contract...

TLO

01-30-2014, 03:28 PM

http://www.sportsinjuryalert.com/2014/01/jeremy-maclins-future-with-eagles.html

Jeremy Maclin's future with the Eagles uncertain
By Chris Hecker
on 1/27/2014 04:30:00 PM

Free agency is about six weeks away and the Philadelphia Eagles will have some tough decisions to make this offseason with wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper both set to hit free agency this March.

Maclin has previously acknowledged (http://www.sportsinjuryalert.com/2014/01/eagles-jeremy-maclin-understands-impact.html) that after missing the entire 2013 season with a torn ACL, odds would be against him landing a big payday with the Eagles or another team in free agency. Maclin said he would be okay with signing a one-year deal to prove that he is healthy and can still perform at a high level.

Only the Eagles know exactly how well Maclin is coming along in his rehab from the torn ACL, which gives them an advantage in contract negotiations. However, with a potentially thin class of wide receivers in this year's free agent market, Maclin may be able to dictate the market and get the type of multiyear deal he is seeking.

The 2014 draft class is loaded with talent at the wide receiver position. Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer (http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-26/sports/46641356_1_riley-cooper-jeremy-maclin-howie-roseman) reports that could affect the way the Eagles approach re-signing Cooper and Maclin. Wide receivers Sammy Watkins of Clemson, Mike Evans of Texas A&M, Marquise Lee of USC, Kelvin Benjamin of Florida State, Allen Robinson of Penn State, Odell Beckham of LSU, and Brandon Cooks of Oregon State are all potential first-round picks. There is even more talent at wide receiver in the second round and beyond, should the Eagles lose Maclin or Cooper and find themselves in need of a replacement.

As it currently stands, the Eagles have $20 million in cap space, but if quarterback Nick Foles keeps playing the way he did this year, they'll have to sign him to a long-term contract, which could mean letting one of their free agent wide receivers walk.

Some stuff in the news about him recently. What do you think the odds are he hits free agency, and the Chiefs end up in pursuit?

Been reading tons of Maclin stuff today.

Video is in the link. Looks pretty smooth.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/01/watch_jeremy_maclin_does_sprints_in_eagles_practice_facility.html

WATCH: Jeremy Maclin does sprints in Eagles practice facility
By Eliot Shorr-Parks
on January 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM

One of the biggest questions the Eagles will have to answer this offseason is whether or not they want to bring back Jeremy Maclin.

Maclin has been vocal about his desire to return to Philadelphia (http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/01/jeremy_maclin_says_he_wants_to_return_to_eagles.html), and on Monday he posted a video showing he is working hard to make it happen.

The below video was posted on Maclin's Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/jrUlF6u5hX/) account, with the caption: "It's what u do when the lights aren't on u... #18 #realcomebackstory"

It's hard to tell what to make of the video, and how optimistic fans should feel about Maclin's recovery from a torn ACL because of it.

Still, if you are hoping Maclin does return, seeing him sprint in the Eagles practice facility -- and look perfectly healthy while doing it -- likely only increases those wishes.

Foles still has like 2 years left on his contract? Why the hell would they re-sign him so soon if it meant losing Maclin?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000310330/article/jeremy-maclin-riley-cooper-to-resign-with-eagles

Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper to re-sign with Eagles?
By Chris Wesseling
Published: Jan. 7, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
Updated: Jan. 7, 2014 at 02:33 p.m.

DeSean Jackson is angling for a pay raise (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000309914/article/desean-jackson-i-deserve-a-new-contract-from-eagles) with three years left on his current contract.

Higher on the Philadelphia Eagles' offseason priority list will be the fate of impending free-agent wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper.

Maclin said Monday, via CSN Philly, that he "definitely" wants to return because his "heart is in Philly (https://twitter.com/GeoffMosherCSN/status/420214197734371328)."

Coming off training-camp ACL surgery, Maclin acknowledged that he might have to accept a one-year contract to rebuild his value.

"I'm a realist, so I understand that's a possibility (http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/01/06/maclin-cooper-set-hit-market/)," Maclin said, per Philadelphia Magazine.

Asked if he would consider giving the Eagles a hometown discount, Maclin replied, "Money isn't everything. I just have to see what's best for me, look at the numbers, look at the personnel and I think we'll make our decision based on that."

Maclin said late last week that he's ahead of schedule in his knee rehab and expects to be ready (http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-04/sports/45837962_1_chip-kelly-eagles-center-jason-kelce-eagles-guard-todd-herremans) for spring workouts.

If Maclin returns, there's a good chance he will be joined by Cooper. Eagles general manager Howie Roseman is leaving the door open (https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/420308879571173376) for both players to return.

"I want to be back (http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-06/sports/45922031_1_riley-cooper-jeremy-maclin-desean-jackson)," Cooper said after Saturday's season-ending loss (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014010401/2013/POST18/saints@eagles), via the Philadelphia Daily News. "I love the coaching staff and I feel like I fit in the system here."

Cooper benefited not only from coach Chip Kelly's offense, but also the ascension of Nick Foles at quarterback.

After catching just eight passes for 93 yards and one touchdown from Michael Vick in the first five games of the season, Cooper racked up 45 receptions for 812 yards and eight touchdowns in the final eight games.

Cooper might draw interest from other teams on the heels of a breakout season, but his best career move is to re-sign with the Eagles.

http://fansided.com/2014/01/22/nfl-free-agency-rumors-eagles-expected-re-sign-jeremy-maclin-one-year-deal/#!t0sHk

NFL Free Agency rumors: Eagles expected to re-sign Jeremy Maclin to one-year deal
By Josh Sanchez
Jan 22nd, 2014 at 12:04 pm

Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin is set to become a free agent in the offseason, but he is coming off of a torn ACL and his value may take a hit. It was initially believed that the Eagles would allow him to walk in free agency and Maclin was linked to former head coach Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs, but now there may be a change in plans.

According to CSN Philly, the Eagles are expected to re-sign Maclin to a one-year deal.

Unfortunately for fellow wide receiver Riley Cooper, that means he is likely to be on the outs.

From the CSN Philly report (http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/eagles-tight-end-depth-could-lead-changes):

Maclin is a better fit in Chip Kelly’s offense so the news isn’t a big surprise, but the Eagles will still run a risk at losing both Cooper and Maclin in the offseason.

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/maclin-give-me-one-year-deal-thats-cool

Maclin: 'Give me a one-year deal, that's cool'
CSN Philly
January 13, 2014, 4:00 pm

For Eagles free-agent-to-be Jeremy Maclin, a one-year deal is a realistic possibility.

And he knows it.

"I understand it could be a possibility that [the ACL tear] may scare some teams off, or a team may want to do a one-year deal as opposed to a long-term contract," Maclin told CSN's Derrick Gunn in an exclusive interview Monday. "That's the game, that's the business."

Maclin tore the ACL in his right knee at the end of July and didn't play a single snap this season.

But he's still regarded as one of the more intriguing free-agent wide receivers because of his speed, hands, first-round pedigree and the production he gave the Eagles from 2009-12 -- an average of 64 catches, 863 yards and six TDs.

"Both sides have had talks," Maclin said about returning to the Eagles. "I respect [GM] Howie [Roseman]. I understand this is a business, I understand he has to look out for what's best for the organization, and that's what he's supposed to do. I have all the faith that he's going to do what's best for the organization, whether that's deciding to keep me there or moving in another direction. I'm a realist, I understand that's a possibility.

"For a team that wants to give me a one-year deal, that's cool, I'll just go out there and ball out, do the things I think I can do. Hopefully get that type of deal I'm looking for. If a team wants to give me a long-term deal, I'll go out there and still do the same thing."

Eric Decker of the Broncos is the class of the free-agent WR market. Maclin fits into the next tier, with wideouts like Hakeem Nicks, Anquan Boldin, James Jones, Golden Tate, Emmanuel Sanders, Riley Cooper and Julian Edelman.

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/01/23/kansas-city-chiefs-rumors-team-to-pursue-wr-jeremy-maclin/

Kansas City Chiefs Rumors: Team To Pursue WR Jeremy Maclin
by Andrew Fisher
January 23, 2014 5:18 pm EST

The Kansas City Chiefs weren’t exactly known for their high-flying offense in 2013. Jamaal Charles had a ridiculous season, but outside of the talented running back, the Chiefs didn’t have many players turning heads on the offensive side of the ball. As the season progressed Andy Reid did open up the playbook a little more, but most of us will remember the 2013 Chiefs for their defense and for the performances by Charles.

So naturally, free agency rumors have already started to swirl in Kansas City. Most fans are wondering who the team will bring in to help boost the offense. A popular name that’s being kicked around the internet? Jeremy Maclin.

The talented WR of course sat out all of 2013 with a torn ACL. However, he’s expected to make a full recovery, as most players with repaired ACLs do these days. He’s also set to hit the free agent market on March 11th, which is why many are connecting the dots and realigning him with Reid in KC.

So the all important questions – (1) should the Chiefs open up their checkbook and pay Maclin? (2) will he want to play there?

The Eagles reportedly want to re-sign Maclin and are also prepared to let Riley Cooper walk in free agency. We’ll have to see who they choose, but you’d have to think they’ll lean towards Maclin, who clearly has a higher ceiling. Philly won’t have enough funds to re-sign both WRs, so it’s entirely possible that the Chiefs could end up with the guy they don’t want. Either way, they’d get a WR that’s familiar with Reid’s system.

If it’s not Maclin or Cooper, it’s got to be someone else for Kansas City. The offense they put on the field in 2013 was simply not Super Bowl-caliber. Until pieces are added, the Chiefs will remain in the tier of potential Wild Card teams. Pursuing Maclin would be a great way to start the process of getting out of that tier.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-01-27/sports/46641356_1_riley-cooper-jeremy-maclin-howie-roseman

Receiver draft class may determine Eagles future of Cooper, Maclin
By Jeff McLane
Posted: January 27, 2014

MOBILE, Ala. - The Senior Bowl, once again, was not the place to find wide receivers who will be selected in the first round of the draft.

But buzz had already developed here about a group of underclassmen who could make the 2014 draft the deepest at the receiver position in years. And that could affect how the Eagles approach re-signing Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin.

Free agency is more than six weeks away, though, and a poll of coaches, executives, scouts, and agents suggested the Eagles would likely keep both wide receivers. As one NFC executive put it, "Who else will like Cooper as much as Chip [Kelly]?" And as an AFC coach posited, "Only the Eagles know how healthy Maclin is."

The market will ultimately decide the worth of both players, but the Eagles have exclusive rights to re-sign Cooper and Maclin before March 11. The team and each player's representative have already had communication, but the receivers could opt to test the market.

Cooper's value is up for debate. He had a career year filling in for the injured Maclin, catching 47 passes for 835 yards and eight touchdowns. His 17.8 yards per reception was third best in the NFL.

Before 2013, Cooper caught 46 passes for 678 yards and five touchdowns in three seasons, mostly as a fourth or fifth receiver. He said the significant increase in production was due to his taking advantage of an opportunity.

Some have argued - and general manager Howie Roseman could certainly make the same claim in negotiations - that Cooper benefited from Kelly's system. The Eagles head coach, though, has given the majority of credit to the 26-year-old receiver.

Kelly's commitment to Cooper goes beyond his performance. While he admired the receiver's toughness and willingness to block, Kelly appreciated Cooper's response to adversity the most, according to a source close to the coach. Cooper rewarded his coach after he stood behind him when his racial slur threatened to derail Kelly's first season before it even started.

But the Eagles are sure to use the incident as a bargaining chip. In December, one NFL executive told The Inquirer that he would pause before signing Cooper because the addition could disrupt locker-room harmony. But, he added: "Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it."

"It's hard for me to predict how another locker room would handle it," Roseman said last week in Mobile. "I know what kind of player [Cooper] is to be around. . . . He's a very up-front guy. He knows that he made a mistake. He's a guy that we drafted. Had a good year for us. Works really hard. And so, he's a young asset."

Maclin was drafted a year before Cooper, but he's 10 months younger. His resumé is longer, too. He has 165 catches, 1,939 yards, and 13 touchdowns more than Cooper. But Maclin has torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee twice - the second time occurring at the start of training camp in July.

He said after the season that he realized he may have to accept a one-year contract to prove his health. The Eagles will have firsthand knowledge of his progress. Maclin will rehab at the NovaCare Complex over the next six weeks.

If he remains unsigned after March 11, any other team would be free to work Maclin out. With a thin free-agent field - the Broncos' Eric Decker, the Giants' Hakeem Nicks, and the Seahawks' Golden Tate are three of the most attractive - Maclin could get a multiyear offer despite the injury.

But the wide-receiver depth in the draft does provide alternatives. Seven receivers, all underclassmen - Sammy Watkins of Clemson, Mike Evans of Texas A&M, Marquise Lee of Southern Cal, Kelvin Benjamin of Florida State, Allen Robinson of Penn State, Odell Beckham of Louisiana State, and Brandon Cooks of Oregon State - could go in the first round.

The talent doesn't end there, though, and the Eagles could look to the later rounds for replacements if either Cooper or Maclin leaves or veteran Jason Avant is waived.

The Eagles have around $20 million in salary-cap space, but they don't have a franchise quarterback contract, and they need to look ahead, especially if their young core improves and the team plans on retaining its own draft picks.

"Can we keep this team together?" Roseman said. "These drafts come around really quickly, so all of sudden, you get there and you go: 'Wow, this guy is going to be his third year next year. We want to keep him here.' "

So the Eagles will look to save a buck here and there on their own players, even if they're under contract. And there could be a trade or two, although predraft swapping is hard to pull off. But there likely won't be as much cost-cutting and movement as some expect, judging from the consensus among NFL people during Senior Bowl week.

The Eagles like all three of their tight ends - Brent Celek, Zach Ertz, and James Casey - and just because Celek ($4 million salary) and Casey ($4 million) get raises in 2014, it doesn't mean they won't be back.

Todd Herremans ($3 million) should return at right guard. Inside linebacker DeMeco Ryans ($6.8 million) will likely have to take a pay cut. Outside linebacker Trent Cole ($5 million) could be easier to trade this offseason. Brandon Graham's future as an outside linebacker with the Eagles could depend upon Cole's whereabouts.

The Eagles may want to extend left tackle Jason Peters ($9.65 million), who has one year left on his deal. Cary Williams ($4.75 million) and Bradley Fletcher ($3.275 million) are relatively cheap for starting cornerbacks.

Even though a former coach said free agent Nate Allen's biggest drawback was that he was "afraid to hit," the safety ought to be back, although there are no guarantees. The only Eagles free agent who appeared to be a slam dunk to return was punter Donnie Jones.

Tons of stuff on Maclin (http://www.bigblueview.com/2014/1/21/5324296/nfc-east-notebook-jan-21-jeremy-maclin-a-fit-for-the-chiefs):

DeSean Jackson may be a factor here, too, as he's hunting for a new contract this offseason...

http://www.sportsworldreport.com/articles/26205/20140106/desean-jackson-rumors-philadelphia-eagles-make-jeremy-maclin-riley-cooper-free-agency-wr-new-contract-2014.htm

[B]DeSean Jackson Rumors: Philadelphia Eagles Make Jeremy Maclin, Riley Cooper Priorities in Free Agency Over WR After New Contract Requested in 2014

With the Philadelphia Eagles season over following a loss to the New Orleans Saints and already wide receiver DeSean Jackson is thinking about a pay raise. Just two years removed from signing a long-term contract extension, Jackson is requesting a new deal because he thinks he deserves it.

Jackson has three years remaining on his five-year deal signed back in 2010. He is set to make $10.5 million in 2014 after making $7 million this year plus some performance bonus cash. Jackson's total deal is worth $50 million, including a $10 million signing bonus and yet, Jackson is not satisfied.

"I definitely feel it's something deserving," Jackson said, via CSNPhilly.com. "We'll see how that plays out, and hopefully we can work things out smoothly and not have to worry about anything out of the ordinary. But I definitely feel like it's deserving. I'm proven in this league, and after this past year, went out there, no distractions, and just really put it all in for my team and went out there and had a lot of success, so we'll see how it goes."

Jackson did have a career-high year after putting up 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns off 82 catches. He finished the regular season ranking ninth in the NFL in both yards and yards after the catch. He is currently the eighth-richest receiver, sitting just behind Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson. While he feels his salary is good, he is hopeful his agent can work out a better extension.

"Honestly, I feel very confident that my agent will work something out," Jackson said. "I feel like I have a great agent, that's what he's for, that's what his job is, all I have to really worry about is staying out of trouble and keeping my nose clean and doing the things I need to do, working on my craft and playing football. I think this year was a big statement for my team and for myself and the things we were able to accomplish and do. I definitely feel it's deserving. Hopefully we can get it worked out and see how it goes."

General manager Howie Roseman did not offer up any comments regarding Jackson's request for a new contract. The Eagles have plenty more to worry about over offering the wide receiver yet another extension. Wide receiver Jeremy Maclin is set to become a free agent. He tore his ACL at the start of the season and is hopeful the Eagles give him a new deal.

"My heart is in Philadelphia," Maclin said. "I would like to stay if I can. We've had talks about the future plans, and stuff like that. I have an idea of what they are thinking."

Receiver Riley Cooper is also due to become a free agent after a strong 2013 season where he showed plenty of chemistry with Nick Foles. Also, quarterback Michael Vick's contract is up which is another issue in itself.

I'm freakin out man...

BossChief

01-30-2014, 03:29 PM

I don't think he's "looking" for a short term deal. I think he's stating that he's OK with taking a short term deal. If KC comes out and offers him a 2-3 year contract....he'll take it.
Why wouldnt philly pay that?
You want to pay him $9 million a year?
38 turnovers in 5 years

The Franchise

01-30-2014, 03:31 PM

Why wouldnt philly pay that?

38 turnovers in 5 years

Good luck locking $20 million dollars into the safety position. Say goodbye to Houston.

mcaj22

01-30-2014, 03:41 PM

There are at least 20 receivers in this class with a third or higher grade. I think the wise money would be spending fa money on a position we have a need at and is thin in the draft.

aka an NFL veteran that is good enough to play single high coverage free safety and has a very high IQ and good range.

you won't find a day 1 single high FS for our scheme in the draft that you can throw into the fire and not have road bumps. The Earl Thomases of the world don't grow on trees.

Dante84

01-30-2014, 03:50 PM

Would you trade a 1st for Desean Jackson?

Dante84

01-30-2014, 03:50 PM

Because I sure as shit would.

-King-

01-30-2014, 03:52 PM

Would you trade a 1st for Desean Jackson?

Would you trade a 2nd for Calvin Johnson?
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mcaj22

01-30-2014, 03:54 PM

i would have traded our entire draft for Josh Gordon when the Browns were the Browns in the middle of the year.

Easy 6

01-30-2014, 03:54 PM

Would you trade a 1st for Desean Jackson?

Absolutely no question about it.

BossChief

01-30-2014, 03:57 PM

Good luck locking $20 million dollars into the safety position. Say goodbye to Houston.

If they rework Hali, Berry and Flowers and work the for Byrd correctly, that's a big-time impact signing.

Stewie

01-30-2014, 03:57 PM

We have much bigger needs than that MU turd.

Dante84

01-30-2014, 03:58 PM

Would you trade a 2nd for Calvin Johnson?
Posted via Mobile Device

yeah yeah....

I only ask because if he whines enough, and Reid wants him enough, it would be crazy as shit to put a package together for him.

Anything's possible. What would he cost?

notorious

01-30-2014, 05:00 PM

If this guy came from another college we would give him 1/10 the amount of attention.

Rausch

01-30-2014, 05:09 PM

If this guy came from another college we would give him 1/10 the amount of attention.

I'd argue 3/10ths, which still is too much...

saphojunkie

01-30-2014, 05:58 PM

Take that Desean Jackson first round trade and turn it directly towards Josh Gordon.

Eleazar

01-30-2014, 06:13 PM

He's exactly the sort of signing we should be making. A bargain price for a player who would be a nice addition at his average output over his career but has room to grow statistically, who is familiar with the coach and the system.

Dylan

01-30-2014, 06:43 PM

First, Maclin is injury prone. He is also inconsistent. There are times that he disappears in games.

It seems every time Maclin steps up his game and looks impressive, something goes wrong with his health.

I believe Maclin has the potential to be that special player – Age is on his side, but for various reasons, he has struggled to reach the next level due to injuries, sickness, or other issues.

Just my opinion

Mr. Laz

01-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Looks like Maclin had only missed 5 games, in 4 seasons, until 2013.

averages about 850 yards per year, with a 13+ yard per catch

doesn't seem that injury prone

2 injuries to the same knee is bothersome

imo we need to sign a pass catcher in FA and draft one. We need more speed and explosion on offense and in our secondary.

BossChief

01-30-2014, 06:58 PM

Denario Alexander and Jeremy Maclin

TO THE MU SUPERBOWL!

O.city

01-30-2014, 07:00 PM

Wouldn't give him big money, but one year with incentives make sense

Just Passin' By

01-30-2014, 07:11 PM

Denario Alexander and Jeremy Maclin

TO THE MU SUPERBOWL trainer's room!

FYP

beach tribe

01-30-2014, 07:11 PM

If this guy came from another college we would give him 1/10 the amount of attention.

I have zero ties to Mizzou and Maclin is one of my most desired FAs

OldSchool

01-30-2014, 07:16 PM

Anyone like Andre Roberts out of AZ? Chances are they won't be able to keep him and they didn't use him as much this past season as they did in 2012. His numbers went down because Arians liked to utilize the TE in the slot a lot and Roberts is the 3rd Wr behind Fitz and Floyd. He's not quite as explosive but is more consistent of a player than Maclin is. He ran a 4.4 flat at the combine and has learned from the best in the business in Fitzgerald. Could be prime for a breakout year. I mean, he put up 700+ yards in 2012 with John Skelton as his main QB.

Dylan

01-30-2014, 07:26 PM

BossChief

01-30-2014, 08:02 PM

KcMizzou

01-30-2014, 08:14 PM

I think it's funny that I caught so much shit for being happy we drafted Moeaki because of his injury history...but so many here want us to sign a guy that has blown out the same knee twice.

If Maclin played for Iowa and Moeaki played for MU, these two players perceptions would be completely different, I think.Maclin's done a hell of a lot more in the NFL than Moeaki. This isn't Danario Alexander we're talking about.

That'd be a closer comparison. (And even he has done more than Moeaki)

Brock

01-30-2014, 08:19 PM

BossChief

01-30-2014, 08:28 PM

The guy has missed 20 games in his 4 year career.

Moeaki missed 16 games in his 5 years in college.

If it weren't for those injuries, Moeaki would have been a first round pick.

If it weren't for Maclins injuries, he would be a top tier free agent.

Both are injury gambles with his upside and really low floors.

O.city

01-30-2014, 08:29 PM

16 of hose came in one year

BossChief

01-30-2014, 08:35 PM

9 of Moeakis came in 1 year and his injuries came from broken bones that once healed are actually stronger most of the time.

Maclin has torn up the same acl twice.

Eleazar

01-30-2014, 08:43 PM

Dunerdr

01-30-2014, 08:51 PM

So a 1st and whatever the browns want on our roster(exc jamaal) for Gordon?

BossChief

01-30-2014, 08:51 PM

Maclin had an ACL injury this year, which happens to receivers. The previous four years, he played 15, 16, 13, and 15 games.

Tony had an acl injury in 2011, which happens to tight ends. Tony had 15, 15, 10 (out of 12) and 9 (out of 12) in his last 2 years in college and his time in KC...basically the surrounding years of his acl injury.

So, apart from his acl year he had really only missed 7 games in those 4 years.

notorious

01-30-2014, 09:34 PM

So a 1st and whatever the browns want on our roster(exc jamaal) for Gordon?

I would do that before touching MACLin.

Just Passin' By

01-30-2014, 09:34 PM

Tony had an acl injury in 2011, which happens to tight ends. Tony had 15, 15, 10 (out of 12) and 9 (out of 12) in his last 2 years in college and his time in KC...basically the surrounding years of his acl injury.

So, apart from his acl year he had really only missed 7 games in those 4 years.

Moeaki's played 31 games in four NFL seasons. Anyone who worried about his injury history has been proven right. Maclin, on the other hand, played in 59 games in his first four NFL seasons.

So, other than the two situations being completely different... well, no, that's it. They're completely different. I'm not saying the Chiefs should sign him, I'm not saying Maclin's never going to miss another game, and I'm not saying he'll ever be a healthy player, but I am saying that your comparison sucks.

Direckshun

01-30-2014, 09:38 PM

Denario Alexander and Jeremy Maclin

TO THE MU SUPERBOWL!

I believe that's called the M Uperbowl.

'Hamas' Jenkins

01-30-2014, 09:45 PM

I think it's funny that I caught so much shit for being happy we drafted Moeaki because of his injury history...but so many here want us to sign a guy that has blown out the same knee twice.

If Maclin played for Iowa and Moeaki played for MU, these two players perceptions would be completely different, I think.

Maclin blew out his knee and came back faster as one of the most dynamic players in the country.

He's suffered one significant injury in his pro career, and he's proven that he's a quick healer.

Moeaki, on the other hand, is a threat to end up inside a zipped rubber bag if the temperature of the Whirlpool is two degrees below normal.

BossChief

01-30-2014, 09:51 PM

Moeaki's played 31 games in four NFL seasons. Anyone who worried about his injury history has been proven right. Maclin, on the other hand, played in 59 games in his first four NFL seasons.

So, other than the two situations being completely different... well, no, that's it. They're completely different. I'm not saying the Chiefs should sign him, I'm not saying Maclin's never going to miss another game, and I'm not saying he'll ever be a healthy player, but I am saying that your comparison sucks.

As usual, you didn't read/comprehend what was written and just started typing a bunch of worthless drivel that nobody here cares to hear.

My comparison had NOTHING to do with Moeakis NFL play...it had to do with the injury risk he carried coming out of college being compared to the injury risk Maclin has currently. You apparently can't understand that and I'm not surprised because that's been your problem every day you've been here.

Aren't you supposed to be swallowing Pioli condoms...or are you gonna tell us more about how great Vrabel is gonna be for KC and how much of a bargain we got with Matt Cassel?

thabear04

01-31-2014, 02:13 AM

Is he the next Freddie Mitchell that sign with Kansas City and don't play a down for us Because he had hurt his knee during camp.

Phobia

01-31-2014, 02:21 AM

Are we really talking about Moeaki and Macklin? For the record, I would like Macklin. I think he's a quality athlete.

salame

01-31-2014, 02:31 AM

pipe dream

Just Passin' By

01-31-2014, 02:31 AM

As usual, you didn't read/comprehend what was written and just started typing a bunch of worthless drivel that nobody here cares to hear.

My comparison had NOTHING to do with Moeakis NFL play...it had to do with the injury risk he carried coming out of college being compared to the injury risk Maclin has currently. You apparently can't understand that and I'm not surprised because that's been your problem every day you've been here.

Aren't you supposed to be swallowing Pioli condoms...or are you gonna tell us more about how great Vrabel is gonna be for KC and how much of a bargain we got with Matt Cassel?

Moeaki had a long history of missing time with injury, in college, where the game is not as physical. He came into the NFL with that as a problem, and it stayed with him. It's not as if his broken bones problems were all in one location.

There's 7 years between popped ACLs for Maclin, so it's not as if he's consistenly going on the shelf. Is it possible that Maclin could pop the same ACL for the 3rd time? Sure, but he's not breaking every bone in his body, which seems to be Moeaki's unfortunate trajectory.

I did read your post, slick. I just pointed out that it was a lousy comparison. That's what people tend to do when someone makes a lousy comparison.

Dunerdr

01-31-2014, 04:58 AM

So maybe fisher Fasano our 1st Clark's soccer team and we all have to get gas at flying j for Gordon. Obviously our support as customers hinges on him and the drug thing. Package that shit Dorsey!

KChiefs1

01-31-2014, 08:23 AM

Olivo & now Maclin? Awesome!

duncan_idaho

01-31-2014, 09:41 AM

I'm as big a Jeremy Maclin as anyone. Both as a player and a person, I have a lot of respect, appreciation and admiration for him.

I think he could be a good fit for the Chiefs, at the right price. If KC is trying to win now, which it obviously is, Maclin could fit in on a one-year deal.

He gets to try to rebuild his value and show his knee is healthy. The Chiefs can sign a high reward type player who knows Andy Reid's system and should have a more shallow learning curve in the offense than a random guy off of the street.

There's a lot of WR talent in this draft, but counting on a 1st year receiver to make a big impact is usually foolish. There are some exceptions, but Keenan Allen is much more of an exception than a rule.

IF they can get Maclin at a bargain (for his level of production in the NFL) price on a short-term deal, the Chiefs get the upgrade at WR they need without breaking the bank and allowing any drafted WRs to work in gradually.

There's some risk involved - you'd need to see clean medicals on that knee and believe the ACL is going to hold up - but it offers the highest payoff/lowest price.

If it requires multiple years or does not come at a discount, it starts losing appeal, quickly. The less of a bargain it is, the less the risk is mitigated, and the smaller the potential return becomes.

kepp

01-31-2014, 10:17 AM

HC_Chief

01-31-2014, 10:22 AM

We need speedy receivers...Maclin is a good fit. This, coming from a KU fan, so it's definitely not a case of mu homerism.

Mile High Mania

01-31-2014, 10:29 AM

I don't think Maclin (or Bowe) are strong #1 guys, they're both strong #2 guys... IMO, KC should bring in a WR that is better than Bowe and improve the offense in that manner.

kepp

01-31-2014, 10:33 AM

I don't think Maclin (or Bowe) are strong #1 guys, they're both strong #2 guys... IMO, KC should bring in a WR that is better than Bowe and improve the offense in that manner.

Weston Dressler says, "Hi".

nychief

01-31-2014, 11:46 AM

only be 26 next year.... he'll only command a one year deal. See if there is any tread on those tires.

Easy 6

01-31-2014, 11:49 AM

Dante's question from last night now has me wishing for Jackson, I'd prefer Gordon but would still give a first for Jackson.

Philly may not be able to keep all 3.

FRCDFED

01-31-2014, 12:21 PM

I don't think Maclin (or Bowe) are strong #1 guys, they're both strong #2 guys... IMO, KC should bring in a WR that is better than Bowe and improve the offense in that manner.

This. Bowe/Jenkins/Hemmingway/Dressler are all #2/3 WR's. We need a solid #1 to open up this offense.

htismaqe

01-31-2014, 12:47 PM

I don't think Maclin (or Bowe) are strong #1 guys, they're both strong #2 guys... IMO, KC should bring in a WR that is better than Bowe and improve the offense in that manner.

WR is a secondary concern. The offense caters to RBs and TEs. We need a dynamic TE more than anything else.

Easy 6

01-31-2014, 01:01 PM

WR is a secondary concern. The offense caters to RBs and TEs. We need a dynamic TE more than anything else.

That a fair point, wouldn't bother me one bit to use the first on one... going into 2014 with Fasano and Kelce isn't gonna cut it.

BossChief

01-31-2014, 01:06 PM

I don't think Maclin (or Bowe) are strong #1 guys, they're both strong #2 guys... IMO, KC should bring in a WR that is better than Bowe and improve the offense in that manner.I think once we get a TE that can win matchups in the passing game (this draft has 3 really good ones) that will prevent teams from being able to bracket Bowe all game...which was the case a lot in the first half of the year.

In 2010, Bowe was a clear cut bonafide #1 guy. Not too many receivers can come down with 15 tds in a year with b level guys throwing to them. It's no surprise that once they started getting the ball to Dwayne, the offense opened up. It's the coaches, Alex's and Bowes responsibility to find a way to replicate that level of production in 2014.

The good thing is this is a deep tight end and receiver class and a really good one should fall to us.

Mr. Laz

01-31-2014, 01:10 PM

WR is a secondary concern. The offense caters to RBs and TEs. We need a dynamic TE more than anything else.

That's not necessarily true.

We need the best pass catcher(s) that we can get regardless of being a TE or WR.

getting 1 of each would be best but i don't want to sacrifice a single drop of talent for a specific position.

2 elite WRs and we can slide Bowe in tight
2 elite TEs and we can run double tights all game

Whatever gets the most talent on the field

We do have more room to add talent at the WR position right now though.

ShowtimeSBMVP

02-15-2014, 03:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Jeremy Maclin & the Eagles are talking about a contract extension. If a deal is not done by March 11th, Maclin will be a free-agent</p>— Jeff Skversky (@JeffSkversky) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffSkversky/statuses/434791358646059008">February 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Direckshun

02-15-2014, 03:11 PM

Plot thickens.

Titty Meat

02-15-2014, 03:19 PM

No thanks to a broke WR.

Titty Meat

02-15-2014, 03:20 PM

WR is a secondary concern. The offense caters to RBs and TEs. We need a dynamic TE more than anything else.

Ebron should be the pick

Mr_Tomahawk

02-15-2014, 03:32 PM

Gimme Boldin for a year.

-King-

02-15-2014, 03:35 PM

Gimme Boldin for a year.

Doubt he'd come here. I could see him going to the Patriots. And as good as he is, I don't really want a better version of Bowe.

htismaqe

02-15-2014, 03:37 PM

That's not necessarily true.

We need the best pass catcher(s) that we can get regardless of being a TE or WR.

getting 1 of each would be best but i don't want to sacrifice a single drop of talent for a specific position.

2 elite WRs and we can slide Bowe in tight
2 elite TEs and we can run double tights all game

Whatever gets the most talent on the field

We do have more room to add talent at the WR position right now though.

Jeremy Maclin is a stretch the field guy. Those kind of guys are going to have marginal impact in this offense if we don't find better outlets for a QB that makes plays with his feet.

1 impact TE changes this offense more than any WR at this point.

htismaqe

02-15-2014, 03:37 PM

Ebron should be the pick

I like Amaro.

Mav

02-15-2014, 05:18 PM

I like Amaro.

I prefer Ebron. Amaro reminds me a lot of Tyler Eifert. Where as Ebron Reminds me of Antonio Gates from 7, 8 years ago.

Absolutely uncoverable.

rtmike

02-15-2014, 05:21 PM

Or you sign Golden Tate and he plays more than 20 snaps a game.

The last I read from him was he would take a discount to stay with the 'hawks.

TEX

02-15-2014, 05:21 PM

Jeremy Maclin is a stretch the field guy. Those kind of guys are going to have marginal impact in this offense if we don't find better outlets for a QB that makes plays with his feet.

1 impact TE changes this offense more than any WR at this point.

This.
Cant go wrong with either Ebron or Amaro. If I HAD to pick one, it would be Ebron because when he's on, you can't cover him. Though I'd be absolutely thrilled with Amaro. Dude can catch anything thrown his way.

-King-

02-15-2014, 05:49 PM

Jeremy Maclin is a stretch the field guy. Those kind of guys are going to have marginal impact in this offense if we don't find better outlets for a QB that makes plays with his feet.

1 impact TE changes this offense more than any WR at this point.

Maclin is versatile. Yes he can be a stretch the field guy, but he's also VERY good at running short and intermediate routes and can be a possession type receiver. He was doing more of that in Philly while Jackson was being asked to stretch the field.

Titty Meat

02-15-2014, 06:00 PM

I prefer Ebron. Amaro reminds me a lot of Tyler Eifert. Where as Ebron Reminds me of Antonio Gates from 7, 8 years ago.

Absolutely uncoverable.

This. Ebron is the best tight end to come out since Jimmy Graham.

htismaqe

02-15-2014, 06:40 PM

This. Ebron is the best tight end to come out since Jimmy Graham.

He's the best potential TE. Ebron has a higher ceiling but Amaro has growing room physically and is a better football pass catcher right now, IMO.

Put it this way - in Ebron I see Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales. With Amaro, I see Shannon Sharpe.

You really can't go wrong with either one.

Hog's Gone Fishin

02-15-2014, 06:55 PM

Dorsey says he sticks to his BPA no matter where they pick, what if the BPA available is a Guard ?

Pasta Little Brioni

02-15-2014, 07:01 PM

Now this guy would be a good signing.

Mr_Tomahawk

02-15-2014, 07:02 PM

Dorsey says he sticks to his BPA no matter where they pick, what if the BPA available is a Guard ?

Dennard.

Bewbies

02-15-2014, 07:04 PM

Dennard.

He's your new Arkansas QB. LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni

02-15-2014, 07:04 PM

I still have hopes for Kelce...stud

ShowtimeSBMVP

02-19-2015, 03:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Watching Total Access, <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet">@RapSheet</a> said don't be surprised if Jeremy Maclin reunites with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> coach Andy Reid. Would be homecoming, too.</p>— Chris Wesseling (@ChrisWesseling) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisWesseling/status/568514698900975617">February 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise

02-19-2015, 03:24 PM

dls6501

02-19-2015, 03:37 PM

Provided optimal health, I see Maclin as a 750 yard, 5 TD machine playing with Alex.

BigBeauford

02-19-2015, 03:50 PM

Provided optimal health, I see Maclin as a 750 yard, 5 TD machine playing with Alex.

Nice so roughly....half production after a season playing with Michael Vick, Mark Sanchez, and Nick Foles.

dls6501

02-19-2015, 03:53 PM

Nice so roughly....half production after a season playing with Michael Vick, Mark Sanchez, and Nick Foles.

Yep.