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Lzen
02-15-2014, 08:27 AM
TCU at Kansas
3:00pm Feb. 15, 2014
TV: Big 12 Network


No Joel Embid today. Surely KU can handle TCU easily, even without Embid.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:29 AM
I assume Black is starting?

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 08:30 AM
TCU at Kansas
3:00pm Feb. 15, 2014
TV: Big 12 Network


No Joel Embid today. Surely KU can handle TCU easily, even without Embid.

I'm curious how fair and balanced he is - does Saul Bad negative rep you when you do these? You know he did me when I did one a few mos back. He said he will ALWAYS do this upon a Beaker creating a game thread, he feels they all belong in the repository KU thread.

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 08:31 AM
& to be fair I'm not a KU fan nor any NCAA team really.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:33 AM
I'm curious how fair and balanced he is - does Saul Bad negative rep you when you do these? You know he did me when I did one a few mos back. He said he will ALWAYS do this upon a Beaker creating a game thread, he feels they all belong in the repository KU thread.

I did the last time I did one.

I hope to fuck that douche negrepped ChiTown when he did the KSU/KU game. It's only fair afterall.

It's dumb though, now that we have to make a new KU thread after 5000 posts.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:34 AM
& to be fair I'm not a KU fan nor any NCAA team really.

You're a UNC fan, right?

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 08:35 AM
I did the last time I did one.

I hope to **** that douche negrepped ChiTown when he did the KSU/KU game. It's only fair afterall.

It's dumb though, now that we have to make a new KU thread after 5000 posts.

lol, Saul's a friend of mine, I was floored when I saw the negative rep. Just floored.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 08:35 AM
Saul negged me the first time this year that i did a game thread. I just negged him right back. That was the last time. I don't give a shit if a rival fan thinks we shouldn't have a game thread. They can go fuck themselves. The official repository fills up too quickly if we don't do game threads. This is the way we've always done it.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 08:36 AM
lol, Saul's a friend of mine, I was floored when I saw the negative rep. Just floored.

Yeah me too. Never had a problem with Saul.

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 08:37 AM
You're a UNC fan, right?

You know what - no.

Not now, I really don't have an identity w/ a NCAA team (the UNC thing was to pacify my ex wife - who went there) It was fun for a while - but now that we're divorced, I'm not seeing any reason to like them.

I don't love or hate ANY school, really. My heart isn't in it until the end, then I usually pick some random smaller school to run with.

But no - not a fan of any, any longer.

LOL

Pablo
02-15-2014, 08:39 AM
Fuck what Saul thinks.

EMAW fans aren't allowed to have opinions. Little brothers should be quiet.

Anyhow, I'm sure this will be a breeze. TCU is hot garbage. If we struggle against them, I'm worry.

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 08:39 AM
Saul negged me the first time this year that i did a game thread. I just negged him right back. That was the last time. I don't give a shit if a rival fan thinks we shouldn't have a game thread. They can go **** themselves. The official repository fills up too quickly if we don't do game threads. This is the way we've always done it.

well you two used to work together, IIRC.


???

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:41 AM
Yeah me too. Never had a problem with Saul.

I don't really either unless he gets in troll mode or come in telling me how to be a fan. That irritates the shit out of me.

Probably should delete that. He'll get bored and troll me.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 08:55 AM
well you two used to work together, IIRC.


???

We used to work for the same organization but not in the same building. He has since moved on to another job.

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 09:11 AM
He'll get bored and troll me.

I doubt it. He's pretty quiet these days. Not a heavy poster like he used to be.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 09:18 AM
I'm in.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 09:25 AM
Saul is a part time referee guys.

There is NO over the back foul.

Just a dick in the butt foul.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 09:30 AM
Saul is a part time referee guys.

There is NO over the back foul.

Just a dick in the butt foul.

I believe it is SaulBadguy, not Saul Good.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 09:33 AM
So Kansas is favored by 23 in this one. If somebody have you $1000, and made you bet on this game, how would you play it?

I'd take TCU +23. I could see us getting off to a big lead, and coasting in a bit during the second half, winning by 14-20 points.

Braincase
02-15-2014, 09:33 AM
Saul is a part time referee guys.

There is NO over the back foul.

Just a dick in the butt foul.

I've found it quite humorous how many times I've seen OTB fouls called since being reassured that it doesn't get called at the HS or College level.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 09:34 AM
So Kansas is favored by 23 in this one. If somebody have you $1000, and made you bet on this game, how would you play it?

I'd take TCU +23. I could see us getting off to a big lead, and coasting in a bit during the second half, winning by 14-20 points.

Yeah, I'm not taking KU.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 09:58 AM
I believe it is SaulBadguy, not Saul Good.

Too many Saul's.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 10:02 AM
Too many Saul's.

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-kill-them-all-114.png

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 10:08 AM
Big 12 network is the one on 38 the spot right? Guess I'll have to break out the rabbit ears to watch this one.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 10:13 AM
on DTV it is channel 34. The Paid programming was coming through so I assume the game will also.

Simply Red
02-15-2014, 10:13 AM
I believe it is SaulBadguy, not Saul Good.




http://i.imgur.com/3tMaX4O.jpg

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 10:15 AM
on DTV it is channel 34. The Paid programming was coming through so I assume the game will also.

Oh ok. I'll have to check out channel 34. Thanks!

Pants
02-15-2014, 10:46 AM
lol, Saul's a friend of mine, I was floored when I saw the negative rep. Just floored.

I don't think you should let rep affect you this much. It doesn't really mean anything.

Pants
02-15-2014, 10:52 AM
So Kansas is favored by 23 in this one. If somebody have you $1000, and made you bet on this game, how would you play it?

I'd take TCU +23. I could see us getting off to a big lead, and coasting in a bit during the second half, winning by 14-20 points.

Agreed, I would take TCU + 23 as well.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 11:11 AM
I hate watching TCU games as a rule, but I'd like to see what Greene/Frankamp/Lucas can do over a longer time if we get a big enough lead.

Prison Bitch
02-15-2014, 11:50 AM
I believe it is SaulBadguy, not Saul Good.

No it was Saul GOod. The same dipshit who tried to explain there is no home field advantage in the NFL either. He has been completely AWOL since basketball started, oddly enough.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 11:57 AM
No it was Saul GOod. The same dipshit who tried to explain there is no home field advantage in the NFL either. He has been completely AWOL since basketball started, oddly enough.

Heh. SR was talking about Saul bad guy to start with though. I know it was that dumbass Saul Good that started the dick in the butt foul thing (still makes me laugh every time. And my wife always gives me some weird look when I say dick in the butt foul during games).

Sorry for the confusion.

BWillie
02-15-2014, 01:14 PM
Got tickets for the game for my birthday. Ill be the guy 4 rows from the court in a jayhawk bird hat

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 01:41 PM
Lots of former players coming back to watch today's game. Withey, Rush to name a few. All-Star break.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:17 PM
Is Greene inactive today? I heard he's not really participating in warm ups.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:22 PM
TT is looking tough. Geez Louise no gimmes the rest of the way.

KC native
02-15-2014, 02:23 PM
I'm going to laugh if we win. TCU's basketball has a long ways to go so I have no expectations of this even being competitive, but it we win, I'm going to laugh my ass off.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 02:24 PM
I'm going to laugh if we win. TCU's basketball has a long ways to go so I have no expectations of this even being competitive, but it we win, I'm going to laugh my ass off.
It would be a bigger upset than Norfolk State beating Missouri.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:25 PM
Greene is indeed inactive today.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 02:27 PM
Greene is indeed inactive today.

Do we know why?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:28 PM
Do we know why?

No word yet. We'll have to wait for Bill Selflichick to speak on it. ;)

Demonpenz
02-15-2014, 02:28 PM
I am referee. I call over the back all the time. Not sure what else to call when someone makes contact and goes over the back...not sure how to explain to people that it is a foul.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:29 PM
I am referee. I call over the back all the time. Not sure what else to call when someone makes contact and goes over the back...not sure how to explain to people that it is a foul.

Please. Not this again lol.

Demonpenz
02-15-2014, 02:30 PM
I just call over the back and I think until a supervisor is there, no one will bust my balls on it.

Pablo
02-15-2014, 02:31 PM
I'm going to laugh if we win. TCU's basketball has a long ways to go so I have no expectations of this even being competitive, but it we win, I'm going to laugh my ass off.

Dream that impossible dream.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:34 PM
@joshklingler: Greene was the Thurs media availability for #kubball so something between Thurs afternoon and today

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:36 PM
@KUTheShiver: I'm told Brannen Greene won't play due to a pattern of irresponsible behavior & coach will address it after the game #kubball

This is getting ridiculous. Self has lost control of this team. Fire his ass. Lol

KC native
02-15-2014, 02:37 PM
It would be a bigger upset than Norfolk State beating Missouri.

LMAO Not really. Did you forget last year's TCU win over KU?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:38 PM
@Schustee19: So to recap: Jamari back from benching after one game, Greene currently benched and no Embiid today. #KUbball

KC native
02-15-2014, 02:38 PM
Dream that impossible dream.

Last year showed that it was indeed possible.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 02:40 PM
LMAO Not really. Did you forget last year's TCU win over KU?
Yes, really. TCU is a worse team than 2012 Norfolk State and 2012 MU was better than this year's KU team. Also, that upset was on a neutral court instead of at AFH (which carries one of the strongest home advantages in the sport).

Have no idea what last year's TCU win has to do with my statement. That was a massive upset too (although that was on the road).

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:40 PM
Last year showed that it was indeed possible.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?! YES!!!

lol

Al Czervik
02-15-2014, 02:43 PM
Last year showed that it was indeed possible.

1998 - Last time the Frogs were in the NCAA Tourney.
They were curb stomped by Florida State by 22.....
Florida State was a 12 seed.....LOL
Enuf said....you guys suck.....still

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 02:47 PM
Almost game time!

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 02:48 PM
@RockChalkBlog: I'm guessing Self is less than pleased that two players have to sit for irresponsible behavior in consecutive games...Especially in February

KC native
02-15-2014, 02:53 PM
1998 - Last time the Frogs were in the NCAA Tourney.
They were curb stomped by Florida State by 22.....
Florida State was a 12 seed.....LOL
Enuf said....you guys suck.....still

I know our basketball program sucks. I've never said otherwise. We did beat KU last year though.

KC native
02-15-2014, 02:55 PM
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES?! YES!!!

lol

post fail. No video

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Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:01 PM
It's Senior day/night?

Who knew.. At least that's what I think they said on the radio?t

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:09 PM
Black in early foul trouble...

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:09 PM
0 for 5 from the free throw line. Great.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:11 PM
What an awful start.

Imon Yourside
02-15-2014, 03:12 PM
Man we look great. Can't hit free throws...can't make simple passes..can't defend the mighty Horn Frogs.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:12 PM
They're not trying today. Fantastic.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:15 PM
:facepalm:

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:16 PM
You'd think missing the team's best player would make the rest of them play harder. Not with this group.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:16 PM
Jamari needs to pull his head out.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 03:18 PM
Little hung over from the monday night spanking?

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:19 PM
Take some fucking pride in your defense.

KC native
02-15-2014, 03:20 PM
LMAO Horned Frogs are "sizzlin" from the field.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:21 PM
This is a fucking joke. LMAO

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:23 PM
YESSSSSS, A FREE THROW!!

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 03:23 PM
Play with some f'in energy.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:25 PM
Ellis from downtown! :LMAO:

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:26 PM
Dick in the butt.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:27 PM
Holy shit, we're leading.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 03:29 PM
This is bad. Real fucking bad.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:32 PM
If this is what KU looks like without Embiid, I don't know that they will win conference if he's out an extended period of time.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 03:32 PM
Can someone explain to me why Perry Ellis always hedges and then stays With the ball handler?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 03:33 PM
Play harder. Play consistent defense.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:35 PM
We're fine for this game, but we can't start out like this one the road against Texas Tech on Tuesday, or anywhere for that matter.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:36 PM
If this is what KU looks like without Embiid, I don't know that they will win conference if he's out an extended period of time.

He's expected to play on Tuesday.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:37 PM
Can someone explain to me why Perry Ellis always hedges and then stays With the ball handler?
He's a bad defender.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:38 PM
Anderson is quite fast.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 03:38 PM
This team is in deep shit.

Imon Yourside
02-15-2014, 03:38 PM
Traylor=trainwreck...way to run interference for the other team.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:39 PM
Atta boy Selden.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:39 PM
Why not put Wiggins on Anderson?

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:41 PM
Why not put Wiggins on Anderson?

Was thinking the same thing. Maybe they'll switch it up coming out of this timeout.

chiefsfan987
02-15-2014, 03:41 PM
We're not beating Tech without Embid. Our defense is just not good.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:42 PM
Yeah! Royals baseball. BE ROYAL

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:42 PM
EMBIID.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 03:42 PM
I like apple turnovers.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:43 PM
We're not beating Tech without Embid. Our defense is just not good.

He should be back.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:44 PM
Shooting 65% but only up 4 points against TCU at home. Quite the defense.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:44 PM
Well, Wiggins was on him, but then got switched up and was on Mr. White guy.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:45 PM
Fuck you Anderson.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:45 PM
FRANKCAMP FOR 3!!!!!!

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:46 PM
Pretty sweet transition defense.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 03:46 PM
Anderson abusing the jayhawks.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:47 PM
Good half TCU.

Baby Lee
02-15-2014, 03:47 PM
That looked like more of a Miranda

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:48 PM
Man, if we run into a team with two really, really good guards in the NCAA tournament this team could be in trouble.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:48 PM
TCU with the 40 points on 56% shooting in a half. LMAO

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 03:48 PM
The defense has to get better. Pathetic.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 03:50 PM
This team needs a flopper.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:50 PM
I think West Virginia beats Texas tonight.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 03:54 PM
I think West Virginia beats Texas tonight.
I'd feel better about it if it wasn't at Texas, but it's very possible.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 03:59 PM
I'd feel better about it if it wasn't at Texas, but it's very possible.

Yeah. Mostly wishful thinking on my part, but, Juwan Staten is crazy talented. We'll see.

chiefsfan987
02-15-2014, 04:01 PM
The defense has to get better. Pathetic.

I think it's getting a little too late in the season to expect much better than what it is. It is what it is.

chiefsfan987
02-15-2014, 04:03 PM
I think West Virginia beats Texas tonight.

I could see it happening, but don't expect it.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:09 PM
I'm glad Shepard picked TCU over KU.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:17 PM
BOOM!!

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 04:18 PM
They play defense for 5 minutes and this happens. LMAO

Wonder how long this little spurt will last.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:18 PM
Cheesburger? Cheeseburger? Double cheesburger!!!!

Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper?

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:19 PM
Nice to see some intensity this half. Defensive and offensive intensity.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:20 PM
Cheesburger? Cheeseburger? Double cheesburger!!!!

Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper? Hopper?

SHUT THE **** UP.

Don't forget that damn Buick commercial.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 04:20 PM
How bad was KU's defense in the first half? TCU ranks 313th in the nation in points and 321st in FG%. Better now. Thanks Self.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:22 PM
Don't forget that damn Buick commercial.

:bang:

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:23 PM
Ellis making his bunnies today.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:24 PM
Ellis isn't a very good defender.

Having a nice offensive game though.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:26 PM
The rape is on.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:26 PM
Jayhawks abusing the Frogs.

chiefsfan987
02-15-2014, 04:27 PM
Whatever Bill said at half regarding defense he needs to say at the start of every half of every game the remainder of the season.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:28 PM
Is kcnative still dreaming a little dream?

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:30 PM
I used to dream of jeannie. They were rated R.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 04:30 PM
Whatever Bill said at half regarding defense he needs to say at the start of every half of every game the remainder of the season.

This. A lot.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 04:37 PM
Perry ellis sucks. /smart prision flopper

ArrowheadHawk
02-15-2014, 04:38 PM
Nice, this is how I like to see them play. Amazing how good they look when they play with effort.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:38 PM
This team needs more pieces of shit.

KC native
02-15-2014, 04:41 PM
Been doing my defensive driving to get rid of a damn ticket so haven't been watching the game much.

LMAO you guys were worried in the first half.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:43 PM
Ellis with 30 points. Very nice.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:43 PM
Dang Perry Ellis is terrible

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:43 PM
Been doing my defensive driving to get rid of a damn ticket so haven't been watching the game much.

LMAO you guys were worried in the first half.

I think we were more worried about KU's lack of defense and effort.

Lzen
02-15-2014, 04:46 PM
Been doing my defensive driving to get rid of a damn ticket so haven't been watching the game much.

LMAO you guys were worried in the first half.

Uh no. No we weren't.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 04:46 PM
Been doing my defensive driving to get rid of a damn ticket so haven't been watching the game much.

LMAO you guys were worried in the first half.
Worried, no. Pissed at an entire half of no defensive effort, yes.

KU would have won this game by 50 points if they tried throughout.

Baby Lee
02-15-2014, 04:49 PM
So Kansas is favored by 23 in this one. If somebody have you $1000, and made you bet on this game, how would you play it?

I'd take TCU +23. I could see us getting off to a big lead, and coasting in a bit during the second half, winning by 14-20 points.

Heeee!!!

ArrowheadHawk
02-15-2014, 04:51 PM
Yeah +23 not looking so good right now!

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 04:52 PM
Super scrubs are in, time for some turnovers.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:52 PM
I think we were more worried about KU's lack of defense and effort.

Uh no. No we weren't.

Worried, no. Pissed at an entire half of no defensive effort, yes.

KU would have won this game by 50 points if they tried throughout.

All of this.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:53 PM
Yeah +23 not looking so good right now!

No kidding.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 04:53 PM
GAHHH THESE WALK-ONS SUCK SO BAD!!!!

/idiots

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 04:55 PM
GG TCU.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 05:00 PM
GAHHH THESE WALK-ONS SUCK SO BAD!!!!

/idiots
Even TCU's walk-ons were better.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 05:03 PM
See if Christian Moody has any more eligibility.

Walk-ONS are a vital part of games. We need a brand new group.

BWillie
02-15-2014, 05:36 PM
You'd think missing the team's best player would make the rest of them play harder. Not with this group.

Why do you always think when KU isnt winning they arent trying hard enough. For that matter why do so many fans buy into this bullshit argument. Winning and losing a basketball game is rarely about who ''tried'' harder. Its almost always about who has superior coaching, talent, home court advantage, and just dumb luck.

BWillie
02-15-2014, 05:38 PM
Even TCU's walk-ons were better.

This is actually true. Doesn't really bother me because Tyler Self helps ensure coach stays at least 5 more years but this seriously is probably the worst crop of walk ons ive seen in my lifetime

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 05:47 PM
Why do you always think when KU isnt winning they arent trying hard enough. For that matter why do so many fans buy into this bullshit argument.

Because I understand what I'm watching and therefore am able to notice when a team isn't giving any effort defensively (and KU didn't for the entirety of the first half). Do you seriously think the fact that TCU stopped scoring in the 2nd half had nothing to do with KU raising its intensity level?


Winning and losing a basketball game is rarely about who ''tried'' harder.

Effort always plays a role. Players don't bring a consistent level of that from game to game (or in the case of this version of KU, from minute to minute). This is even more obvious in professional basketball with its 82 game schedule (where players often float around defensively during the regular season until the final few minutes of each game, before turning it up consistently in the playoffs). Not exactly sure how that is a point of contention.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 05:55 PM
FYI:
joshklingler ‏@joshklingler 22m
#Kubball self on Anderson "we couldn't guard him down there either" 2nd message was more "try harder" than major adjustment

It seems Self understands the game too. Good to know.

Ceej
02-15-2014, 05:59 PM
This is actually true. Doesn't really bother me because Tyler Self helps ensure coach stays at least 5 more years but this seriously is probably the worst crop of walk ons ive seen in my lifetime

How, or why does this even matter?

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 06:03 PM
Why do you always think when KU isnt winning they arent trying hard enough. For that matter why do so many fans buy into this bullshit argument. Winning and losing a basketball game is rarely about who ''tried'' harder. Its almost always about who has superior coaching, talent, home court advantage, and just dumb luck.

In this case it is all effort. TCU did some things, but it was effort.

Al Czervik
02-15-2014, 06:14 PM
In this case it is all effort. TCU did some things, but it was effort.

Yep...and if you don't understand that effort is a big factor....clueless

Lzen
02-15-2014, 06:47 PM
Why do you always think when KU isnt winning they arent trying hard enough. For that matter why do so many fans buy into this bullshit argument. Winning and losing a basketball game is rarely about who ''tried'' harder. Its almost always about who has superior coaching, talent, home court advantage, and just dumb luck.

Sure those things you mention have a to do with winning or losing. But effort is related to those things. Coach Self has talked about it a as of late.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 06:48 PM
Baylor is so, so bad.

KSU is playing like nutsack and winning by 7 at Baylor.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 06:56 PM
KSU 30 Baylor 21 at half ROFL

Christ

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 06:58 PM
KSU 30 Baylor 21 at half ROFL

Christ

If we would've tried on Monday night in Manhattan it would've been over at the half.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 07:02 PM
If we would've tried on Monday night in Manhattan it would've been over at the half.


Probably not.

We tried. KSU just brought it more. It's tough to win on the road. It's that simple.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 07:06 PM
Probably not.

We tried. KSU just brought it more. It's tough to win on the road. It's that simple.

Beg to differ. We did not play with the same intensity and energy that we did in the second half today. If we did, we'd be 11-1 in conference play right now. Nobody will argue that KSU is better. KU brings their A game against them it's over. They're kids. They'll learn.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 07:08 PM
Beg to differ. We did not play with the same intensity and energy that we did in the second half today. If we did, we'd be 11-1 in conference play right now. They're kids. They'll learn.


You're talking about the 2nd half of the game we played at home...?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 07:09 PM
You're talking about the 2nd half of the game we played at home...?

There's a reason we're 48-4 against them in as many games man. We're better. We bring it, we beat them. It didn't happen Monday night.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 07:10 PM
Probably not.

We tried. KSU just brought it more. It's tough to win on the road. It's that simple.

We didn't get after them as much as we have in some other games. KSUs effort was far far better than it was at AFH, but yeah. It may not have been OVAH, but we come out with a win I think.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 07:12 PM
There's a reason we're 48-4 against them in as many games man. We're better. We bring it, we beat them. It didn't happen Monday night.


You do realize that webber only has 2 home losses in his 2 seasons there, right? The same number self has had in the past 2 seasons. Webber is no self...but he is a good coach. Don't live in the past or you will look like a fool.

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 07:16 PM
You do realize that webber only has 2 home losses in his 2 seasons there, right? The same number self has had in the past 2 seasons. Webber is no self...but he is a good coach. Don't live in the past or you will look like a fool.

Lol just stop.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 07:18 PM
Lol just stop.


I'm not the delusional fan....

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 07:20 PM
In other news, the officials got the clock, and call right at Cameron. Call went to Maryland. I'm impressed.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 07:23 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUCK Maryland misses on the last second shot. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. FUCK.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 07:24 PM
Is the Texas/West Virginia game on anywhere?

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 07:38 PM
I'm not the delusional fan....

We've won 4 of 5 against them. They definitely present a challenge recently. Stop.

chiefsfan987
02-15-2014, 07:39 PM
Is the Texas/West Virginia game on anywhere?

Its on the longhorn network. I don't think it's worth watching though... they're blowing west virginia out.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 07:42 PM
We've won 4 of 5 against them. They definitely present a challenge recently. Stop.

I've never understood throwing stats out like "4 of 5 against them" when you are talking about new players and a new team....

THIS team is 1-1 against them...why should it matter what last years team did?

Lzen
02-15-2014, 07:43 PM
Is the Texas/West Virginia game on anywhere?

It doesn't seem like it. Texas up 33-20 with just under 4 minutes in the half.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 07:46 PM
It doesn't seem like it. Texas up 33-20 with just under 4 minutes in the half.

Well poop.

kstater
02-15-2014, 07:47 PM
Its a LHN game

Chiefs Pantalones
02-15-2014, 07:50 PM
I'm glad Texas is winning. Keep the pressure on our guys.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 07:52 PM
Baylor ties it up. 51 all.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 07:56 PM
And Baylor starts playing sloppy.. K State up by 5.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:01 PM
Syracuse in danger of going down for the second game in a row.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:03 PM
Big offensive foul called on Ennis. Man o man.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:05 PM
NCSU just pooped their pants. Syracuse wins.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:07 PM
BOOOOOM!

LMAO

Baylor sends it into overtime. Somehow.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:09 PM
I'm talking to myself apparently.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:13 PM
Hmmm.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:23 PM
Baylor with a chance to win it in OT
68 all.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 08:23 PM
go burs

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:24 PM
BOOOOOM!

LMAO

Baylor sends it into overtime. Somehow.

Nah, I'm watching. I fell asleep for it a bit though.

Baylor tried REAL hard to lose it with all those 2 attempts. Thank God Austin got the rebound and found Heslip.

We'll see if Chery can poop his pants again.

2OT.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:25 PM
Double OT coming for K-State and Baylor.

KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 08:26 PM
Chery is useless. What the hell was that last hero shot?

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:29 PM
Chery is useless. What the hell was that last hero shot?

He watched too much Pierre Jackson. The thing he doesn't know is that Pierre Jackson is far far better than Chery.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:33 PM
That was big.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:35 PM
I'd be embarrassed if Brady Heslip beat me on a fast break drive. That's bad.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:36 PM
Chery makes his first point guard play in the second overtime.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:37 PM
K-State is gonna lose.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 08:37 PM
As I was just saying earlier...

...it's tough to win on the road in this league.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:38 PM
As I was just saying earlier...

...it's tough to win on the road in this league.

Statistically, yeah. It is. KU is an exception.

Big Smoke
02-15-2014, 08:38 PM
LMAO Chery.

But still... Game over.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:39 PM
Wow. KSU is done. Down 10 with 1:15 left.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:40 PM
LMAO Chery.

But still... Game over.

I mean, the board was good....ROFL

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 08:41 PM
Statistically, yeah. It is. KU is an exception.

We still have to go to WVU, and OSU...those are not gimme's

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 08:42 PM
No tee shirts this week.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:43 PM
We still have to go to WVU, and OSU...those are not gimme's

No. I had the OSU one as a loss, but the WV one is looking tougher all the time.

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 08:43 PM
We still have to go to WVU, and OSU...those are not gimme's

And TT. We can still lose 3 more games.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 08:44 PM
Does KSU break the top 25 this week after back-to-back home wins against top 25 teams, then a road loss to a bottom feeder?

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:44 PM
And TT. We can still lose 3 more games.

We really need to beat TT. But they almost pulled it off at Hilton Tragic.

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:46 PM
Florida UK is decent.

But there is a dick in the butt foul.

Mr_Tomahawk
02-15-2014, 08:47 PM
Gonna watch this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgjXXY6CQAER_fl.jpg:large

Buehler445
02-15-2014, 08:48 PM
Gonna watch this...



Kings any good this year?

Reerun_KC
02-15-2014, 08:48 PM
Does KSU break the top 25 this week after back-to-back home wins against top 25 teams, then a road loss to a bottom feeder?

I think they should. KU turned Spradling into Mark Price for a night.

BWillie
02-15-2014, 09:18 PM
Sure those things you mention have a to do with winning or losing. But effort is related to those things. Coach Self has talked about it a as of late.

Of course he does, its coach speak. I played competitive sports in HS and college and when we won and lost, it had absolutely nothing to do with effort. I didnt make it past that level because I didnt try hard enough, its because i wasnt skilled or talented enough. Now effort in practice and effort in the offseason is a totally different story.



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KC_Connection
02-15-2014, 09:29 PM
Of course he does, its coach speak. I played competitive sports in HS and college and when we won and lost, it had absolutely nothing to do with effort. I didnt make it past that level because I didnt try hard enough, its because i wasnt skilled or talented enough. Now effort in practice and effort in the offseason is a totally different story.

ICYMI:

joshklingler ‏@joshklingler 22m
#Kubball self on Anderson "we couldn't guard him down there either" 2nd message was more "try harder" than major adjustment

Effort matters in sports. It mattered in the game today (see the difference in KU's defensive intensity between the 1st and 2nd half and the tangible effect that had). I'm not exactly sure where you've come up with the rather ridiculous idea that it doesn't.