Complete PFF Ratings of every position from 2013 Regular Season

[planetdoc]

http://imgur.com/a/DEkM8

this should generate plenty of discussion.
for starters:

Vance Walker: 791 snaps, +4 overall grade, +1.5 pass rush, -0.6 run, 3 sacks, 3 hits, 32 hurries.

Tyson Jackson (not an apples to apples comparison): +14.5 overall, -3.3 pass rush, +15.5 run, 4 sack, 0 hits, 8 hurries.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

http://imgur.com/a/DEkM8

this should generate plenty of discussion.
for starters:

Vance Walker: 791 snaps, +4 overall grade, +1.5 pass rush, -0.6 run, 3 sacks, 3 hits, 32 hurries.

Tyson Jackson (not an apples to apples comparison): +14.5 overall, -3.3 pass rush, +15.5 run, 4 sack, 0 hits, 8 hurries.

Jackson was playing with studs on D. Walker not so much.

[planetdoc]

I hope they move Devito to LDE and have walker at RDE.

[Mugsy]

Very impressed with Walkers hurries... That's ****ing nice... Maybe he will wreak some havoc after all? Will that translate to our scheme? How will he hold up in a one gap with one or two other linemen instead of three?

[thabear04]

Jackson was playing with studs on D. Walker not so much.

L.Houston was good.

[Direckshun]

I hope they move Devito to LDE and have walker at RDE.

That makes as much sense as anything.

[Mugsy]

I hope they move Devito to LDE and have walker at RDE.

Has Walker ever played in a 3-4 or DE at all? That could be a pretty big jump. Also, I could see Sutton wanting him with Houston on the left.

[LoneWolf]

Yes, I always trust rankings on football players from a website ran by a soccer loving Englishman.

[planetdoc]

Has Walker ever played in a 3-4 or DE at all?

dont know, but I dont think it was very often.


That could be a pretty big jump. Also, I could see Sutton wanting him with Houston on the left.

agree, big jump.
Usually you want your best run defenders on the strong side because that is usually where an additional run blocker (such as a TE) is located. Generally you also want your best pass rusher on the QBs blind side.

Devito is much more a run defender than pass rusher, and Walker is the opposite.

Yes, I always trust rankings on football players from a website ran by a soccer loving Englishman.

thus the good discussion. There is plenty of WTF material in there, as well as plenty of good (interesting) material as well. Just for instance, JJ Watts overall score is ridiculous and absurd.

[GoChargers]

I'm just shocked that there were six worse cornerbacks than Derek Cox last year.

[GoChargers]

Yes, I always trust rankings on football players from a website ran by a soccer loving Englishman.

Most NFL teams not only subscribe to PFF but use it to supplement their internal evaluations and even make suggestions to the founders on how to improve their stats. I'd say they're pretty trustworthy.

[SAUTO]

I hope they move Devito to LDE and have walker at RDE.

Wasn't devito on a one year deal?
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[LoneWolf]

Most NFL teams not only subscribe to PFF but use it to supplement their internal evaluations and even make suggestions to the founders on how to improve their stats. I'd say they're pretty trustworthy.

Bullshit. They use it for basic stats like # of snaps played, etc. Marvin Lewis voiced his opinion about PFF and I'm positive most other coaches/executives feel the same way.

[Dylan]

Not for nothing - but you really should judge a player on how they perform in the system they play in.

back to Bristol ... :D

[Direckshun]

Jesus, how bad were our corners.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Not for nothing - but you really should judge a player on how they perform in the system they play in.

back to Bristol ... :D

How's your boy going to do in Oakland? You mad they let him go? Not trolling just asking. When the Chiefs don't make the playoffs I pull for the giants. I think the giants got stupid cheap I would have kept him for oakland gave him.
NY post said ny offered 1/2 what oak gave him.

[Dylan]

How's your boy going to do in Oakland? You mad they let him go? Not trolling just asking. When the Chiefs don't make the playoffs I pull for the giants. I think the giants got stupid cheap I would have kept him for oakland gave him.
NY post said ny offered 1/2 what oak gave him.

I wish Tuck the best of luck. He helped us to win two Super Bowls - However, he is not close to the player he once was during the last couple of years.

In 2013, Tuck compiled nine sacks during the last six games and six of those sacks came against the Redskins. He had 10 sacks in the prior thirty-seven injury-plagued games.

Contracts are based on what a player can do for a team in the future - Not on what he did in the past. They are lucky - The NFL is a business that pays players very well.

I am sad the Giants let Linval Joseph walk.

Thank you for asking...

[RippedmyFlesh]

If they were trying to sign me before free agency hit, or at least were trying to communicate with us, then I probably would’ve took somewhere around a two-year deal, $8 million.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/lack-effort-giants-drove-tuck-raiders-article-1.1721734

At 4 a year he would have been worth it. Thats not a break the bank contract. He's 30 he still might have a couple of years left.

[Dylan]

RippedmyFlesh, Honestly, I could not bear to watch him moping on the sidelines, and dragging around his shoulder any longer. He was hurt all the time and played awful.

Tuck was paid $10 million a year and had four or five sacks per year to show for it. Everyone in NY knew that his productivity diminished two-three years ago.

[SeeingRed]

http://imgur.com/a/DEkM8

this should generate plenty of discussion.
for starters:

Vance Walker: 791 snaps, +4 overall grade, +1.5 pass rush, -0.6 run, 3 sacks, 3 hits, 32 hurries.

Tyson Jackson (not an apples to apples comparison): +14.5 overall, -3.3 pass rush, +15.5 run, 4 sack, 0 hits, 8 hurries.

yep interesting.....MOST interesting thing I saw in the ratings for each position was that we had a #1 rated player in only 1 position......Fullback! Anthony Sherman is tha man! Top rated FB in the NFL! One of the most underrated guys on our team...no question! :clap:

[milkman]

Bullshit. They use it for basic stats like # of snaps played, etc. Marvin Lewis voiced his opinion about PFF and I'm positive most other coaches/executives feel the same way.

PFF ratings, like stats, is just a tool.

You can't make evaluations and decisions based on those numbers, but it's something that you can begin the process with.

[ThaVirus]

yep interesting.....MOST interesting thing I saw in the ratings for each position was that we had a #1 rated player in only 1 position......Fullback! Anthony Sherman is tha man! Top rated FB in the NFL! One of the most underrated guys on our team...no question! :clap:


Justin Houston was the highest rated 3-4 OLB.