Compensatory picks released...

[The Franchise]

Chiefs get none.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 1m

The Chiefs received no compensatory picks.

Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 14m

#Chiefs did not receive a compensatory pick this year, NFL announces. But next year they could see as many as four.

[jjchieffan]

I don't think anyone expected the Chiefs to get any. They picked up a lot more than they lost.

[Direckshun]

Duh-doy. We signed like 18 FAs last year to nearly every contract size imaginable.

Honestly, at this point, the less we do in free agency the better. We've already flubbed the first wave with the best talent. Now we need to stay put and let the picks roll in next year.

I think we're in line for a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 6th... But who the hell knows.

[Rasputin]

Pffft the NFL should give us sympathy picks for the years of Matt Cassell & Snott Pioli & the Belcher thing.
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[DaWolf]

Yeah, we were pretty active in free agency last year. And I think we cut a lot of guys that didn't really find work elsewhere...

[chiefzilla1501]

Chiefs get none.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 1m

The Chiefs received no compensatory picks.

Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 14m

#Chiefs did not receive a compensatory pick this year, NFL announces. But next year they could see as many as four.

Thanks for the update. No surprise we got none.

Right now, the Chiefs are very well positioned to be rewarded handsomely next year. They've currently lost more free agents than they've signed. And the value of the contracts they've lost is massively higher than the ones they brought in.

Which is why it's great to focus on signing Houston, Berry, and Smith to extensions this year. We can sign those 3 guys and it doesn't at all affect our ability to earn compensatory picks.

[The Franchise]

Duh-doy. We signed like 18 FAs last year to nearly every contract size imaginable.

Honestly, at this point, the less we do in free agency the better. We've already flubbed the first wave with the best talent. Now we need to stay put and let the picks roll in next year.

I think we're in line for a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 6th... But who the hell knows.

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.

[Bob Dole]

I think we're in line for a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 6th... But who the hell knows.

Which means we'll get a 6th only.

[jd1020]

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.

LMAO

[Direckshun]

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.

Unless I'm dramatically misunderstanding your point, extending our own players doesn't factor into the comp picks formula.

Also, you are a smelly douche.

[chiefzilla1501]

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.

It could save us money vs. trying to extend him next year.

[The Franchise]

Unless I'm dramatically misunderstanding your point, extending our own players doesn't factor into the comp picks formula.

Also, you are a smelly douche.

LMAO

Your Mom.

[Direckshun]

It could save us money vs. trying to extend him next year.

Ding ding ding

[Rain Man]

Who did we gain and lose last year? The seasons tend to blend together for me at this point since I can't anchor my memories on things like playoff wins.

[chiefzilla1501]

Unless I'm dramatically misunderstanding your point, extending our own players doesn't factor into the comp picks formula.

Also, you are a smelly douche.

It doesn't affect comp picks. Dunta Robinson, for example, does not count toward comp because he was cut before his contract expired so the Chiefs didn't technically lose him. Just as Houston, Berry, and Alex Smith will still be under contract if they re-sign.

[BlackHelicopters]

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.

LMAO

[BossChief]

Houston was the last player from the 2011 draft to sign his rookie deal because he wanted to milk every drop. What does that tell you?

It tells me that we will need to franchise him unless we give him the biggest contract ever for his position.

[Mr. Laz]

Extend Justin Houston, he said. It'll save us money, he said.
I imagine we will franchise him once or twice and then let him go.

[O.city]

Weren't there reports that we were talking to him about an extension at the combine?

Must not be going very well.

[TEX]

Thanks for the update. No surprise we got none.

Right now, the Chiefs are very well positioned to be rewarded handsomely next year. They've currently lost more free agents than they've signed. And the value of the contracts they've lost is massively higher than the ones they brought in.

Which is why it's great to focus on signing Houston, Berry, and Smith to extensions this year. We can sign those 3 guys and it doesn't at all affect our ability to earn compensatory picks.

There's that term "NEXT YEAR" again that all Chiefs fans know all too well. Why even play the upcoming season? We all know how its gonna play out. And after this season our core players are yet another year older...The more things change, the more they remain the same...

[chiefzilla1501]

Houston was the last player from the 2011 draft to sign his rookie deal because he wanted to milk every drop. What does that tell you?

It tells me that we will need to franchise him unless we give him the biggest contract ever for his position.

It's still going to be cheaper than if we negotiate in 2015 when the cap jumps. And we can structure his contract to take one hit today and skip the next hit until 2016 when we have a shitload of cap space we can play with. And none of this affects our comp picks. Re-signing him this year is an excellent idea.

[houstonwhodat]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday, March 24, 2014

TEXANS AWARDED THREE COMPENSATORY PICKS IN 2014 NFL DRAFT

HOUSTON – The Houston Texans have been awarded three compensatory picks in the 2014 NFL Draft, the NFL announced today. The NFL Management Council determined the Texans will receive the 35th pick in the fourth round (135th overall), 35th pick in the sixth round (211th overall) and the 41st pick in the seventh round (256th overall and final pick of the draft).

Below is the entire release from the NFL detailing the compensatory picks awarded in 2014:

NFL ANNOUNCES 32 COMPENSATORY DRAFT CHOICES TO 13 CLUBS

A total of 32 compensatory choices in the 2014 NFL Draft have been awarded to 13 teams, the NFL announced today.

Under the rules for compensatory draft selections, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.

The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four. The 32 compensatory choices announced today will supplement the 224 choices in the seven rounds of the 2014 NFL Draft (May 8-10), which will kick off in primetime for the fifth consecutive year.

The first round will be held on Thursday, May 8 and begin at 8:00 PM ET. The second and third rounds are set for Friday, May 9 at 7:00 PM ET followed by rounds 4-7 on Saturday, May 10 at 12:00 PM ET.

This year, the compensatory picks will be positioned within the third through seventh rounds based on the value of the compensatory free agents lost.

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.

The NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement limits the number of compensatory picks to the number of clubs then in the league (32). This year, three clubs – Chicago, Atlanta and Cincinnati – qualified for compensatory picks under the net loss formula but will not receive those picks because they ranked 33rd, 34th and 35th, respectively, among all compensatory picks. Atlanta and Cincinnati will receive picks for other compensatory free agents lost who ranked within the top 32 compensatory picks.

A fourth club, Oakland, did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents last year but qualified for a compensatory pick because the compensatory free agents lost by the club were ranked higher than the ones they signed (by a specified points differential based upon salary and playing time). Because such picks are awarded after all compensatory picks at the end of the seventh round have been made, Oakland’s pick effectively ranked 36th among all compensatory picks, so the club will not receive a selection.

The following 2014 compensatory draft picks have been determined by the NFL Management Council:

ROUND CHOICE/
ROUND OVERALL SELECTION TEAM
3 33-97 Pittsburgh
3 34-98 Green Bay
3 35-99 Baltimore
3 36-100 San Francisco
4 33-133 Detroit
4 34-134 Baltimore
4 35-135 Houston
4 36-136 Detroit
4 37-137 New York Jets
4 38-138 Baltimore
4 39-139 Atlanta
4 40-140 New England
5 33-173 Pittsburgh
5 34-174 New York Giants
5 35-175 Baltimore
5 36-176 Green Bay
6 33-209 New York Jets
6 34-210 New York Jets
6 35-211 Houston
6 36-212 Cincinnati
6 37-213 New York Jets
6 38-214 St. Louis
6 39-215 Pittsburgh
7 33-248 Dallas
7 34-249 St. Louis
7 35-250 St. Louis
7 36-251 Dallas
7 37-252 Cincinnati
7 38-253 Atlanta
7 39-254 Dallas
7 40-255 Atlanta
7 41-256 Houston

Following are the compensatory free agents lost and signed last year by the clubs that will receive compensatory picks in the 2014 NFL Draft:

ATLANTA Lost: Brent Grimes, Luke McCown (did not qualify for a compensatory pick, 32 picks already awarded), Christopher Owens, Will Svitek, Vance Walker
Gained: Osi Umenyiora

BALTIMORE Lost: Dannell Ellerbe, Paul Kruger, Ed Reed, Cary Williams
Gained: None

CINCINNATI Lost: Josh Brown, Bruce Gradkowski, Manny Lawson, Brian Leonard (did not qualify for a compensatory pick, 32 picks already awarded), Pat Sims, Dan Skuta
Gained: Josh Johnson, Mike Pollak, Alex Smith

DALLAS Lost: Victor Butler, Kenyon Coleman, Mike Jenkins, John Phillips
Gained: Justin Durant

DETROIT Lost: Cliff Avril, Gosder Cherilus, Justin Durant, Drayton Florence, Sammie Lee Hill
Gained: Reggie Bush, Jason Jones, Glover Quin

GREEN BAY Lost: Greg Jennings, Erik Walden
Gained: None

HOUSTON Lost: Alan Ball, Connor Barwin, James Casey, Justin Forsett, Donnie Jones, Glover Quin
Gained: Greg Jones, Shane Lechler, Ed Reed

NEW ENGLAND Lost: Patrick Chung, Donald Thomas, Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead
Gained: Danny Amendola, Isaac Sopoaga, Will Svitek

NEW YORK GIANTS Lost: Martellus Bennett, Chase Blackburn, Domenik Hixon, Osi Umenyiora
Gained: Josh Brown, Ryan Mundy, Brandon Myers

NEW YORK JETS Lost: Yeremiah Bell, Mike DeVito, Shonn Greene, Dustin Keller, LaRon Landry, Matt Slauson
Gained: Antwan Barnes, Mike Goodson

PITTSBURGH Lost: Keenan Lewis, Rashard Mendenhall, Ryan Mundy, Mike Wallace
Gained: Bruce Gradkowski

SAN FRANCISCO Lost: Ted Ginn, Dashon Goldson, Ricky Jean Francois, Isaac Sopoaga, Delanie Walker
Gained: Craig Dahl, Phil Dawson, Glenn Dorsey, Dan Skuta

ST. LOUIS Lost: Danny Amendola, Craig Dahl, Bradley Fletcher, Brandon Gibson, Robert Turner
Gained: Jared Cook, Jake Long


TOTAL 2014 NFL COMPENSATORY DRAFT PICKS

Baltimore 4
New York Jets 4
Atlanta 3
Dallas 3
Houston 3
Pittsburgh 3
St. Louis 3
Cincinnati 2
Detroit 2
Green Bay 2
New England 1
New York Giants 1
San Francisco 1
TOTAL 32

NFL CLUB SUMMARY OF COMPENSATORY DRAFT PICKS, 1994-2014 *

Baltimore 41
Dallas 33
Green Bay 33
Philadelphia 30
Tennessee *** 30
St. Louis ** 30
Pittsburgh 29
New England 27
Buffalo 26
NY Giants 23
San Francisco 23
Cincinnati 22
Indianapolis 20
Seattle 20
Detroit 19
Jacksonville 19
Atlanta 18
San Diego 18
Tampa Bay 18
Chicago 17
Miami 17
Minnesota 17
Oakland 17
Arizona 16
Kansas City 15
Carolina 14
NY Jets 13
Washington 12
New Orleans 10
Denver 9
Houston 9
Cleveland 6
TOTAL 651

* 1994 was the first year that compensatory draft choices were awarded.
** St. Louis picks include those awarded to Los Angeles Rams.
*** Tennessee picks include those awarded to Houston Oilers.

[chiefzilla1501]

There's that term "NEXT YEAR" again that all Chiefs fans know all too well. Why even play the upcoming season? We all know how its gonna play out. And after this season our core players are yet another year older...The more things change, the more they remain the same...

There's also that term "BAND AID" again that all Chiefs fans know too well. A hard lesson we learned in the Vermeil era.

[OnTheWarpath15]

There's also that term "BAND AID" again that all Chiefs fans know too well. A hard lesson we learned in the Vermeil era.

And trading for Alex Smith isn't a band-aid?

Let's trade two seconds for a QB so we can fill the stadium with a clear win-now move, then proceed to follow it up by claiming the new plan is to build through the draft with only 6 picks.

Nothing like a win-now move that is set to potentially pay off in 2015 at the earliest.

Meanwhile, the best players on this team are another year older, with no replacements in sight. Best case scenario is Dorsey drafts his ass off and we start to see dividends in 3 years when the core of this team is on their last legs.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Meanwhile, let's not sign any FA's to fill the massive holes on this roster, because the 3 late round comp picks we're going to get in 2015 are going to be crucial to the success of the organization..


Love the rationalization around here.

[Mr. Laz]

Meanwhile, let's not sign any FA's to fill the massive holes on this roster, because the 3 late round comp picks we're going to get in 2015 are going to be crucial to the success of the organization..


Love the rationalization around here.
just wait until 2015!!!/chiefzilla1501

[chiefzilla1501]

And trading for Alex Smith isn't a band-aid?
If the Chiefs draft very well, including finding a QBOTF, it doesn't have to be. The window never closes.

Let's trade two seconds for a QB so we can fill the stadium with a clear win-now move, then proceed to follow it up by claiming the new plan is to build through the draft with only 6 picks.
Giving up 2 seconds sucks. But silly to think that takes us out of the draft game. Adding 4 picks next year would be an awesome place to start.

Nothing like a win-now move that is set to potentially pay off in 2015 at the earliest.
We will still be competitive in 2014 and I don't get why people think we can't be better with a very good draft and some smart scrap pile moves.

Meanwhile, the best players on this team are another year older, with no replacements in sight. Best case scenario is Dorsey drafts his ass off and we start to see dividends in 3 years when the core of this team is on their last legs.
If Dorsey does the job he's paid to do and draft well (and believe me, last year's draft did not inspire much confidence...), then there is no reason why this team can't fully transition into not just a good, but very good team by 2016 or 2017. If he needs more time than that, then he's not fit to be a GM.

[chiefzilla1501]

Meanwhile, let's not sign any FA's to fill the massive holes on this roster, because the 3 late round comp picks we're going to get in 2015 are going to be crucial to the success of the organization..


Love the rationalization around here.

Okay, then let's sign 3 free agents today to fill massive holes and let's play this magical game of Candyland where we pretend this is a team fit to win a Super Bowl.

If we get comp picks, we'll end up with 16-17 draft picks next year. And we set up a really attractive 2015 to 2016 cap situation.

Both are long shot approaches. But at least the situation where we play it patient actually gives us a shot to be a real contender on the gamble that we play our cards right.

[Rausch]

Giving up 2 seconds sucks. But silly to think that takes us out of the draft game. Adding 4 picks next year would be an awesome place to start.

I don't get where we're getting 4 picks. Are we trading players?...

[chiefzilla1501]

I don't get where we're getting 4 picks. Are we trading players?...

A team can earn up to 4 comp picks.

As of now, we are in a great situation to earn a lot of them. We gave up a lot more players than we brought in. The value of the players we brought in was a whole lot less than what we lost. We will get rewarded handsomely.

Signing Jairus Byrd, on the other hand... that probably would have jeopardized any hope of getting that 3rd we will probably get for Albert.

[O.city]

It's not as if going out and signing free agents prohibits you from getting to draft players. Deals can be structured so that certain guys are cuttable when other rookie deals come due.

Hell, most contracts in the league today are essentially 2 year deals.

[TribalElder]

http://i.imgur.com/oyPFqcv.gif

[Dylan]

Ravens cleaned up. They get extra 3rd, 4th, and 5th

However, they lost their players to UFA and did not sign any UFA's until after June:

Paul Krueger - 5 years, $40 Million
Dannell Ellerbe - 5 years, $35 Million
Ed Reed - 3 years, $15 Million
Cary Williams - 3 years, $16 Million


Nice...

[tecumseh]

Ravens cleaned up. They get extra 3rd, 4th, and 5th

However, they lost their players to UFA and did not sign any UFA's until after June:

Paul Krueger - 5 years, $40 Million
Dannell Ellerbe - 5 years, $35 Million
Ed Reed - 3 years, $15 Million
Cary Williams - 3 years, $16 Million


Nice...

Howboutthat?

[O.city]

Ravens essentially did what we're (hopefully) doing this offseason. Look at all they lost, and didn't really lose anything.

[Titty Meat]

Ravens essentially did what we're (hopefully) doing this offseason. Look at all they lost, and didn't really lose anything.

They won the super bowl and then didn't even make the playoffs but at least they have comp picks right?

[O.city]

They won the super bowl and then didn't even make the playoffs but at least they have comp picks right?

I don't really know what youre getting at, but they lost alot of free agents that really weren't worth signing or resigning for what they made, and replaced those players with either young draft picks or better free agents.

[splatbass]

There's that term "NEXT YEAR" again that all Chiefs fans know all too well. Why even play the upcoming season? We all know how its gonna play out. And after this season our core players are yet another year older...The more things change, the more they remain the same...

The butthurt is strong in this one.

[mcaj22]

Ravens essentially did what we're (hopefully) doing this offseason. Look at all they lost, and didn't really lose anything.

so what you're saying is, we are going 8-8 this year but at least we got comp picks for '15 guys!

[Tombstone RJ]

http://i.imgur.com/oyPFqcv.gif

LMAO

[the Talking Can]

1. Trent Baalke is a force to be reckoned with in the NFL. The San Francisco general manager, the former protégé of Bill Parcells, slips in and out of meetings quietly and rarely stops to talk to reporters here, because he just doesn’t want the light to shine on him; Baalke’s a scout at heart. When you see him, he’s often deep in conversation with someone he can learn from, as I’m assuming he was at dinner with John Elway on Monday night at the Italian place inside the JW Marriott here. Talking with his peers, I find a deep respect for Baalke, who is all about building his team for the long term, regardless of the temporary bumps in the road.

When the NFL announced its 32 compensatory draft picks for 2014 late Monday, Baalke was a winner again. For letting high-priced free-agent Dashon Goldson and mid-level guys Delanie Walker and Ted Ginn walk a year ago, the Niners were awarded a third-round pick in the 2014 draft—No. 100 overall in what’s expected to be a rich draft. That gives San Francisco six picks in the top 100, one in the first round (30th overall), two in the second (56th and 61st), and three in the third (77th, 94th and 100th). Baalke runs the draft the way Jimmy Johnson used to in Dallas, wheeling and dealing for extra picks to allow the Niners the freedom on draft day to do what they want in moving up or down or into better position for next season. The extra two comes from the Alex Smith trade with Kansas City. I love the genesis of the 77th pick. It comes from Tennessee. Last year, Baalke traded backup quarterback Alex Smith to Kansas City for what turned out to be second-round picks in 2013 and 2014. The 2013 second-rounder was the 34th overall pick. Baalke traded that down to No. 40 with Tennessee, and got a seventh-rounder last year and a third-rounder this year in return. So for Alex Smith, it turns out Baalke got two second-rounders, a third-rounder and a seventh-rounder in return. That’s why he’s admired among his peers: Baalke consistently takes medium value and makes very good value out of it.

The moral of the story is Baalke doesn’t have to throw too much cap money at receivers like Julian Edelman and Emmanuel Sanders, because he knows he can sit there on draft day and move up or down to get the player he wants at the right value. At 30 this year, he might get a good wideout, Marqise Lee of USC or Brandin Cooks of Oregon State, to fall to him in a deep first round. Imagine Lee stretching a defense, or Cooks trolling the middle as a dangerous slot man for Colin Kaepernick. These Niners are going to be good for a long, long time.

2. The Ravens know when to let players walk—and it pays for them. GM Ozzie Newsome knew he shouldn’t overpay to keep Paul Kruger, Ed Reed and Dannell Ellerbe last year, and all left for good money elsewhere (Kruger and Ellerbe got $75 million combined in free agency, way too much as it turns out for their middling production). The results came in Monday: Newsome and the Ravens got a third-rounder, two fourths and a fifth for the players they lost. Look at it this way: In the past six months, Baltimore has paid a fourth-rounder, fifth-rounder and sixth-rounder, total, to acquire its current starting left tackle (Eugene Monroe) and likely starting center (Jeremy Zuttah).

In baseball, we’re now seeing GMs refuse to sign good free agents like Stephen Drew, the shortstop on Boston’s World Series team last year, because it would cost the acquiring team its first-round pick this year. It’s different in football, but the message Newsome sends every year is the same: Let your vets walk if they don’t fit into your salary structure, because part of the value you get in return is compensatory picks. In the 21-year history of the compensatory picks, Baltimore has been awarded a league-high 41.


http://mmqb.si.com/2014/03/25/trent-baalke-nfl-owners-meetings/

[Titty Meat]

so what you're saying is, we are going 8-8 this year but at least we got comp picks for '15 guys!

Yeah this board loves cop picks they treat them like they are fucking casino comps when really they don't mean much.

[chiefzilla1501]

so what you're saying is, we are going 8-8 this year but at least we got comp picks for '15 guys!

Better than settling for a slightly better 10-6 at the expense of 3 or 4 picks

[Titty Meat]

Better than settling for a slightly better 10-6 at the expense of 3 or 4 picks

Not really.

[Simply Red]

Meanwhile, let's not sign any FA's to fill the massive holes on this roster, because the 3 late round comp picks we're going to get in 2015 are going to be crucial to the success of the organization..


Love the rationalization around here.

Jeff Linkenbach bra

[chiefzilla1501]

so what you're saying is, we are going 8-8 this year but at least we got comp picks for '15 guys!

Approach 1:
2014: Extend Berry, Smith, Houston. Sign minimal free agents.
2015: Earn 3 - 4 comp picks. Open up a shitload of cap space on what could be a blue chip free agent class

Approach 2:
2014: Spend on Jairus Byrd, Emmanuel Sanders, Schwartz, and maybe Albert and/or McCluster
2015: Limited comp. Limited cap space

Umm.... yeah, I'd rather wait until 2015. Thank you very much.

[Titty Meat]

Approach 1:
2014: Extend Berry, Smith, Houston. Sign minimal free agents.
2015: Earn 3 - 4 comp picks. Open up a shitload of cap space on what could be a blue chip free agent class

Approach 2:
2014: Spend on Jairus Byrd, Emmanuel Sanders, Schwartz, and maybe Albert and/or McCluster
2015: Limited comp. Limited cap space

Umm.... yeah, I'd rather wait until 2015. Thank you very much.

Yeah you're wrong.

This team would have contended this year had they kept schwartz, signed a guy like Clemons or Mitchell, and adding a #2 WR.

[O.city]

Yeah you're wrong.

This team would have contended this year had they kept schwartz, signed a guy like Clemons or Mitchell, and adding a #2 WR.

Isn't Clemons still out there? Really wish we'd bring him in.

Sign him, draft Beckham, I think we'd have a chance if all else goes right

[chiefzilla1501]

Yeah you're wrong.

This team would have contended this year had they kept schwartz, signed a guy like Clemons or Mitchell, and adding a #2 WR.

You're right. Adding two guys puts us right in the same class as Denver, New England, Seattle, and San Francisco.

[splatbass]

Yeah you're wrong.

This team would have contended this year had they kept schwartz, signed a guy like Clemons or Mitchell, and adding a #2 WR.

"Would have"? "Had they"? The season isn't even close to starting, much less a done deal. You understand what "past tense" means, right?

It is way to early to know what will happen this season. The fact that you always think the worst doesn't mean you are right, it just means you are a miserable, negative person.