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rico
04-12-2014, 10:54 AM
Blake Bortles.

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When watching this guy play football, does anyone else confuse him with a sack of shit flying out of a truck?

I don't understand the hype about this guy. If someone does, please, PLEASE explain it to me... Why is this guy projected in some mock drafts to be selected #1 overall?

I spent a long time yesterday, watching Blake Bortles clips on youtube and to say the least, I am not impressed. Even in highlight reels, he appears to be the epitome of mediocrity to me. In freaking highlight reels!!!

He throws a wobbly pass. His arm doesn't appear to be THAT strong. His receivers are constantly making acrobatic catches due to his lack of accuracy...in fact, most of his highlight reels prompt me to sit there and think to myself, "whoa...who is THAT receiver???"

His release is very, very questionable. The talent he faced is "meh."

Can someone please explain to me what the big deal about him is, besides his size and Big Ben-esque pocket presence/scrambling ability? I am obviously missing something. Did he have an awesome pro day, combine or Senior Bowl? Did Gruden schlob the hell out of his knob??? WHAT??? WHY?!?!?!

Something about him reminds me of Gabbert... I think it'd be hilarious if the Jaguars selected him.

In58men
04-12-2014, 10:57 AM
Gabbert will succeed in Harbaughs system

rico
04-12-2014, 10:59 AM
Gabbert will succeed in Harbaughs system

Yeah, yeah Harbaugh the QB guru, yada-yada....

TimBone
04-12-2014, 11:01 AM
Some of those receivers had some nice moves.

rico
04-12-2014, 11:02 AM
Some of those receivers had some nice moves.

Yes they did... One of them went all 2010 Moeaki vs. 49ers in the endzone.

rico
04-12-2014, 11:05 AM
The throw/catch at 3:08....that was a HELL of a catch...that's the one that reminded me of Moeaki's 2010 endzone catch vs. the 49ers.

TribalElder
04-12-2014, 11:06 AM
This dude will be one of the better QBs from this class in my opinion

In58men
04-12-2014, 11:10 AM
Yeah, yeah Harbaugh the QB guru, yada-yada....

Kinda like Reid is suppose to be too ROFL

rico
04-12-2014, 11:20 AM
Kinda like Reid is suppose to be too ROFL

:)

Mr. Laz
04-12-2014, 11:26 AM
must take a first round QB ...

Deberg_1990
04-12-2014, 11:28 AM
He's basically built big and stocky and has a nice arm.

Chiefshrink
04-12-2014, 11:44 AM
Physically he is the ideal NFL prototype. Whether he can truly play is another question.

Eleazar
04-12-2014, 11:46 AM
I guess we are at the point in draft season where everyone watches a youtube clip and declares a player they have never seen is garbage

rico
04-12-2014, 12:04 PM
I guess we are at the point in draft season where everyone watches a youtube clip and declares a player they have never seen is garbage

Hey... at least I requested for someone to explain why he is highly touted... I'm giving him a chance and basically admitted that my knowledge about the guy is limited as evidenced by my numerous amount of questions about the guy.

And not that it matters, but it was clips...plural...that I watched. :D

So do you know anything about him? If so, can you explain to me, why he is considered a number 1 overall pick by various sources?

rico
04-12-2014, 12:09 PM
He's basically built big and stocky and has a nice arm.

I've heard about his big arm a lot and I just...haven't noticed anything that has stuck out when compared to other QB's with big arms. I do notice that he is Big Ben-ish when scrambling under pressure to make plays, but the arm seems questionable to me... And the ball he throws appears to be wobbly quite often.

I read this comment where someone compared him to Andrew Luck. I read that and was like:

https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kirkpatrick-maloney-obamacare-laughing.gif

RealSNR
04-12-2014, 12:46 PM
Because the state of Florida has a history of turning out great NFL QBs.

Or... maybe it's the opposite of that. Yeah, actually, I think it's the opposite.

Chiefshrink
04-12-2014, 01:40 PM
I've heard about his big arm a lot and I just...haven't noticed anything that has stuck out when compared to other QB's with big arms. I do notice that he is Big Ben-ish when scrambling under pressure to make plays, but the arm seems questionable to me... And the ball he throws appears to be wobbly quite often.

I read this comment where someone compared him to Andrew Luck. I read that and was like:

https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kirkpatrick-maloney-obamacare-laughing.gif

To your point, because of Big Ben and Flacco the media will always look for any kind of QB drama whether legit or created. 'They love that power to lead the general uneducated sports eye by the nose'. And the GMs/Coaches love that they(sports media) LOVE that power to lead because it means they(GMs/Coaches) can play better NFL POKER this time of year;)

Who really knows what these GMs/Coaches 'really think'.:shrug:

Everybody knows everybody in this league and they play NFL Poker all year long and especially this time of year. Because they all know each other they all know each other's main football fundamental philosophies when it comes to strategy,players,FAs,trading and especially 'The Draft'. And 'Wannabe Professional Athletes' Who Never Were Athletes' Complicit Sports Media immensely help in playing NFL Poker this time of year.

Dave Lane
04-12-2014, 01:52 PM
I see a lot to like. He stays in the pocket so the OL junkies will be big fans.

Direckshun
04-12-2014, 02:01 PM
I really like him.

Great decision maker.

BigMeatballDave
04-12-2014, 02:04 PM
He stays in the pocket so the OL junkies will be big fans.

Typically, good QBs who operate well in the pocket tend to make their line look better, not the other way.

mcaj22
04-12-2014, 02:08 PM
he has the NFL body and teams love that shit. He's not fast but his size keeps him standing, he has a chance to shed pass rushers in the NFL i.e. a poor man's Big Ben. But that is usually the difference in converting a play when the rushers shed off you with poor tackling.

So yea like someone said this dude is an Oline junkies dream QB.

Pasta Little Brioni
04-12-2014, 02:50 PM
Trade up for Bo Callahan

BlackHelicopters
04-12-2014, 03:51 PM
QB at 1.23

Dave Lane
04-12-2014, 04:12 PM
QB at 1.23

Never at any pick. No soup for you!!

rico
04-12-2014, 04:53 PM
Just say no to Blake Bortles.

Tombstone RJ
04-12-2014, 05:15 PM
He's a better prospect than Geno Smith.

Hog's Gone Fishin
04-12-2014, 06:36 PM
What a loser he will be !

BigMeatballDave
04-12-2014, 06:44 PM
I like him.

The OP is not a good assessment.

rico
04-12-2014, 07:29 PM
I like him.

The OP is not a good assessment.

The OP requested explanations. Do you have any? If so, enlighten me...please.

OldSchool
04-12-2014, 08:11 PM
I don't think that Bortles is anything special. But then again, I don't think that any of the available QBs are better football players than the top 10 players in this draft. They're always going to be overvalued because they are typically the most easily recognizable "stars" of the NFL.

BryanBusby
04-12-2014, 09:26 PM
That was a nice highlight reel of the UCF wide receivers.

Tribal Warfare
04-12-2014, 10:25 PM
The guy is clutch is and that's what really popped out to me when I saw him play.

jkw87
04-12-2014, 11:11 PM
I don't think that Bortles is anything special. But then again, I don't think that any of the available QBs are better football players than the top 10 players in this draft. They're always going to be overvalued because they are typically the most easily recognizable "stars" of the NFL.

I'd actually say most of the QBs this year that are touted as top talent players are in reality second rounders or lower. It's just the position that forces everything to be graded on a curve... There's at least twenty prospects out this year who are more talented with a higher ceiling..

rico
04-12-2014, 11:36 PM
I'd actually say most of the QBs this year that are touted as top talent players are in reality second rounders or lower. It's just the position that forces everything to be graded on a curve... There's at least twenty prospects out this year who are more talented with a higher ceiling..

Hmm...good point, dude.

MahiMike
04-13-2014, 08:50 PM
I don't get bortles either.

In58men
04-13-2014, 09:29 PM
Trade up for Bo Callahan

Chiefs trade up? You know damn well they'd trade for Brian Drew. 8 years experience with weak knees. Sounds about right.

DTLB58
04-13-2014, 10:39 PM
I don't get bortles either.

And then there's this: From Walter's mock draft trade :eek: :eek:

Minnesota Vikings: Blake Bortles , QB , UCF
*** Trade 1: Minnesota trades a 2014 second-round pick, 2014 third-round pick and 2015 second-round pick for the No. 2 overall selection. ***

Then just one spot later he mocks this trade:

Atlanta Falcons: Khalil Mack , OLB , Buffalo
*** Trade 2: Atlanta trades a 2014 second-round pick for the No. 3 overall selection. ***

:doh!:

Sorter
04-13-2014, 10:41 PM
I like Bortles.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-13-2014, 11:12 PM
I like Bortles.

I prefer cans.

BullJunkandIron
04-13-2014, 11:19 PM
I heard he has a cute butt.

RealSNR
04-13-2014, 11:19 PM
I prefer cans.

http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/when-youre-in-a-bad-mood-and-someone-tells-you-to-smile-for-a-picture.gif

Rausch
04-14-2014, 07:11 AM
I like Bortles.

I think he has some Rothlesburger in him.

Only less rapey...

mikey23545
04-14-2014, 07:18 AM
Please let him fall to 1.23...

:grovel:

Tombstone RJ
04-14-2014, 11:43 AM
And then there's this: From Walter's mock draft trade :eek: :eek:

Minnesota Vikings: Blake Bortles , QB , UCF
*** Trade 1: Minnesota trades a 2014 second-round pick, 2014 third-round pick and 2015 second-round pick for the No. 2 overall selection. ***

Then just one spot later he mocks this trade:

Atlanta Falcons: Khalil Mack , OLB , Buffalo
*** Trade 2: Atlanta trades a 2014 second-round pick for the No. 3 overall selection. ***

:doh!:

I don't see Minny trading all that away for Bortles.

Eleazar
04-14-2014, 11:44 AM
i there anything stupider than a mock draft that mocks trades?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
04-14-2014, 11:45 AM
He's so bad.

rico
08-17-2014, 02:04 PM
After watching what he has done in preseason so far..... I think there is a strong possibility that I should eat crow on this one. Kid looks tough as nails.

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2014, 02:51 PM
After watching what he has done in preseason so far..... I think there is a strong possibility that I should eat crow on this one. Kid looks tough as nails.

yep the QB whisperer called this one before media blitz, check it

rico
08-17-2014, 02:57 PM
yep the QB whisperer called this one before media blitz, check it

Who is that? Andy Reid?

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2014, 02:58 PM
Who is that? Andy Reid?

it feels good to be a gangsta, yeah boi!!!!!!!! :D

TimBone
08-17-2014, 03:00 PM
Good call, Rico!

OldSchool
08-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Bortles is going to be solid.

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2014, 05:28 PM
BTW, it's not my style to smear stuff like this in someones face, because it's not classy and uncool. Though if someone brings it up, I'll identify that I called it 1st before the media hype.

jonzie04
08-17-2014, 05:32 PM
After watching what he has done in preseason so far..... I think there is a strong possibility that I should eat crow on this one. Kid looks tough as nails.

I respect this. Not a lot of people can man up and admit they were wrong. Especially on the internet. :thumb:

milkman
08-17-2014, 05:35 PM
BTW, it's not my style to smear stuff like this in someones face, because it's not classy and uncool. Though if someone brings it up, I'll identify that I called it 1st before the media hype.

"I just want to blow my own horn about the fact that I don't blow my own horn, except when I blow my own horn."

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
08-17-2014, 05:36 PM
Bortles will bust

MahiMike
08-17-2014, 05:46 PM
This town has BORTLESMANIA!

MahiMike
08-17-2014, 05:50 PM
I can't believe with all the predraft hype, no mention of how bortles was a LB forced to play QB. You take a guy that huge with a LB mentality and a cannon arm that is very accurate and you have the makings of something great.

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2014, 05:53 PM
I can't believe with all the predraft hype, no mention of how bortles was a LB forced to play QB. You take a guy that huge with a LB mentality and a cannon arm that is very accurate and you have the makings of something great.


I called him to be good Franchise QB before media blitz, hence my comment.

New World Order
08-17-2014, 05:55 PM
He looks good so far.

Rico, you're analysis was spot on LMAO

Eleazar
08-17-2014, 07:15 PM
Bortles looks great, I think he's going to be the real deal.

It's so comical that CP had people pimping Manziel over Bortles. Typical CP quarterback analysis though... brought to you by "Geno at 1.1"

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
08-17-2014, 07:20 PM
Bortles looks great, I think he's going to be the real deal.

It's so comical that CP had people pimping Manziel over Bortles. Typical CP quarterback analysis though... brought to you by "Geno at 1.1"

I think you mean Bridgewater, dumbass. Most have always hated JFF. But Mmybe if Johnny has his 2nd good preseason game in a row we can go ahead and crown him too.

Valiant
08-17-2014, 08:15 PM
Bortles looks great, I think he's going to be the real deal.

It's so comical that CP had people pimping Manziel over Bortles. Typical CP quarterback analysis though... brought to you by "Geno at 1.1"

And you had people pimping Bortles over everyone else??? I do not see your point..

Every QB in the draft had people pimping them here.

TimBone
08-17-2014, 08:42 PM
"I just want to blow my own horn about the fact that I don't blow my own horn, except when I blow my own horn."

toot toot

rico
08-17-2014, 11:17 PM
He looks good so far.

Rico, you're analysis was spot on LMAO

I know, right?!?! :D

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:16 PM
Do not draft a R1QB ever.

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/675502/bortlesomg.0.0.gif

RealSNR
08-28-2014, 11:22 PM
Bortles looks great, I think he's going to be the real deal.

It's so comical that CP had people pimping Manziel over Bortles. Typical CP quarterback analysis though... brought to you by "Geno at 1.1"

Fucking idiots liked Manziel over QBs like Bortles.

And as far as I know, none of the ardent Geno fans like Manziel over even guys like Bridgewater.

Would they have drafted Manziel over Dee Ford? You bet your ass, but that's not the point. The point is, you can't just take a misplaced QB opinion by someone and then say, "UHP! GENO!"

Because really, at this point Geno looks like a far better QB than Manziel. And he also looks like a far better pick than Eric Fisher.

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:24 PM
Do not draft R1QBs.

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/667118/bortlespower.0.0.gif

OldSchool
08-28-2014, 11:25 PM
Do not draft R1QBs.

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/667118/bortlespower.0.0.gif

How's Johnny Football doin?LMAO

Only guy within our reach that I would have liked to grab would have been Carr.

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:26 PM
How's Johnny Football doin?LMAO

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/675612/johnnyfootball.0.0.gif

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:27 PM
Johnny Manziel did not throw a single INT this preseason.

Chiefs fans should love him!

OldSchool
08-28-2014, 11:30 PM
Johnny Manziel did not throw a single INT this preseason.

Chiefs fans should love him!

He was 6/17 against back-ups. Fantastic! LMAO

Also, how is EJ Manuel doing? ROFL

Just saying, 1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.

RealSNR
08-28-2014, 11:30 PM
He was 6/17 against back-ups.

And no INTs?

He's downright Alex Smithian!

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:31 PM
1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.

AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:32 PM
There is only one place you find guys who can make throws like that throw Bortles made.

If you ever want to have a prayer of adding an explosive element to your passing game, get a R1QB.

Or round 2 if he falls because he's black.

rico
08-28-2014, 11:33 PM
I believe I was off about Bortles being a sack of shit flying out of a truck. Kid looks pretty damn good...and it's weird watching it come from a Jaguar... Not used to them having a potentially elite dude behind center.

I will say this though... his passes seem to have an awkward, sudden downward slope right before the ball falls into his receivers' hands. It's weird. I think that is what threw me off when I watched him prior to the draft....gave me the illusion that his passes are wobbly. Hey, he's seemingly making it work... There's something unique about the way he throws the ball and the spin he puts on it that makes him totally unique, IMO.

rico
08-28-2014, 11:36 PM
How's Johnny Football doin?LMAO

Only guy within our reach that I would have liked to grab would have been Carr.

How's Kenny Football doing? Man, that guy really came out slugging tonight....already breaking one of Johnny's records.

RealSNR
08-28-2014, 11:37 PM
Just saying, 1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.

And neither are OTs.

COULD IT BE THAT NO POSITION IS GUARANTEED IN THE NFL DRAFT????

OldSchool
08-28-2014, 11:39 PM
There is only one place you find guys who can make throws like that throw Bortles made.

If you ever want to have a prayer of adding an explosive element to your passing game, get a R1QB.

Or round 2 if he falls because he's black.

There are plenty of examples that prove otherwise, but sure.:thumb:

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:40 PM
Looks like that receiver was covered, very scary.

http://i.imgur.com/LC2a34W.gif

Hammock Parties
08-28-2014, 11:41 PM
There are plenty of examples that prove otherwise, but sure.:thumb:

Really? The fuck?

Tell me where you find a 6-5 guy with a cannon arm that can make elite throws. Give me some fucking examples.

rico
08-28-2014, 11:41 PM
Looks like that receiver was covered, very scary.

http://i.imgur.com/LC2a34W.gif

2 risque.

OldSchool
08-29-2014, 12:05 AM
Really? The ****?

Tell me where you find a 6-5 guy with a cannon arm that can make elite throws. Give me some ****ing examples.

Bortles does not have a cannon. He has really good touch and feel for the passing game though.

Great QBs found after the 1st, can make all the throws, or weren't drafted by the team they became great with? Some of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round picks or won with another team.

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Joe Theismann
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Matt Hasselbeck
Rich Gannon
Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas

Etc, etc

Arguably the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round draft picks. (Montana, Brady, Starr, Unitas were all drafted in the 3rd or later.)

Does taking one in the 1st round improve your chances? Sure, but it largely depends on the quality of the QBs in that draft class. Just taking one for the sake of drafting a 1st round QB (Bills with EJ Manuel in 2013) in a crappy class will just set you back.

Now if a blue chip QB prospect is available (think Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc) by all means, go for it. If they aren't then it's better to wait, draft an elite player at a different position, and take your shot at a QB in the 2nd or later rounds while adding stronger pieces at other positions with your higher picks which will give whatever QB you bring in a better chance and less pressure to succeed.

Hammock Parties
08-29-2014, 12:07 AM
Bortles does not have a cannon.


Total fucking bullshit.


Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Joe Theismann
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Matt Hasselbeck
Rich Gannon
Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas


None of those guys had top end talent with arms that could destroy brick walls. Staubach, maybe, but that was a different time.

The guys coming out of college that look like sick fucking freak monsters that do ridiculous shit with the football....they all go in the first round. That's where you get a guy like that. That's where you find Blake Fucking Bortles.

mcaj22
08-29-2014, 12:10 AM
Bortles definitely has a cannon, you thinking otherwise means you havent watched him play and just read analysis about him on messageboards and the internet.

Hammock Parties
08-29-2014, 12:11 AM
Yeah you can wait until the third and pick up a Joe Montana...but he's a lot more likely to be some asshole with an average arm who can't hack it.

Mav
08-29-2014, 03:00 AM
Yeah you can wait until the third and pick up a Joe Montana...but he's a lot more likely to be some asshole with an average arm who can't hack it.
Like Russell wilson? Or nick foles? Who Andy drafted.

Eleazar
08-29-2014, 04:13 AM
History shows us that there's an average of 1 guy per draft who will become a starter in the NFL at QB. Bortles is the one for this draft.

Mav
08-29-2014, 04:47 PM
History shows us that there's an average of 1 guy per draft who will become a starter in the NFL at QB. Bortles is the one for this draft.
Teddy as well

RunKC
08-29-2014, 04:50 PM
I saw that bomb to Lee. The guy looks good. The Jags had a great offseason.

Tribal Warfare
08-29-2014, 05:10 PM
Total fucking bullshit.



None of those guys had top end talent with arms that could destroy brick walls. Staubach, maybe, but that was a different time.

The guys coming out of college that look like sick fucking freak monsters that do ridiculous shit with the football....they all go in the first round. That's where you get a guy like that. That's where you find Blake Fucking Bortles.


Staubach was selected in later rounds because he had to serve two years in the military

Easy 6
08-29-2014, 05:44 PM
I almost wish Dorsey would've pulled a Ditka and traded the whole draft for this guy, he's gonna be a top player no question about it.

I dont know if he has the same fire in his belly as Luck, but this kid is prototype and cool under pressure... if he had sat behind Smith for a year or two we would've unleashed an unholy beast on the NFL.

Him and this UDFA kid Hurd are playing together like Manning and Harrison.

Eleazar
08-29-2014, 06:49 PM
2 risque.

He isn't covered. He's got his man beat.

Hammock Parties
08-29-2014, 06:59 PM
He isn't covered. He's got his man beat.

He's "NFL open."

Alex Smith would never attempt that throw.

Snapplez
08-29-2014, 07:02 PM
I thought Bortles had "one-year college wonder" feel about him. Damn, though. He's been very impressive.

ILChief
08-29-2014, 07:04 PM
Yeah you can wait until the third and pick up a Joe Montana...but he's a lot more likely to be some asshole with an average arm who can't hack it.

Or you can blow a pick on EJ Manuel by reaching

Deberg_1990
08-29-2014, 08:23 PM
I guess Bortles proves that NFL scouts and execs really do know more about football than Chiefsplanet.

John Dope
08-29-2014, 09:37 PM
Meh, one year Greg McElroy was literally the best rookie QB in the preseason. It doesn't mean shit.

Tribal Warfare
08-29-2014, 09:39 PM
I guess Bortles proves that NFL scouts and execs really do know more about football than Chiefsplanet.

I called him before the media blitz :D

Eleazar
08-30-2014, 02:11 PM
I guess Bortles proves that NFL scouts and execs really do know more about football than Chiefsplanet.

The hell you say.

Dave Lane
08-30-2014, 02:45 PM
Typically, good QBs who operate well in the pocket tend to make their line look better, not the other way.

So are you dissing Alex?

Setsuna
08-30-2014, 02:50 PM
Don't hate guys. Be jelly.

Setsuna
08-30-2014, 02:51 PM
Bortles does not have a cannon. He has really good touch and feel for the passing game though.

Great QBs found after the 1st, can make all the throws, or weren't drafted by the team they became great with? Some of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round picks or won with another team.

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Joe Theismann
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Matt Hasselbeck
Rich Gannon
Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas

Etc, etc

Arguably the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round draft picks. (Montana, Brady, Starr, Unitas were all drafted in the 3rd or later.)

Does taking one in the 1st round improve your chances? Sure, but it largely depends on the quality of the QBs in that draft class. Just taking one for the sake of drafting a 1st round QB (Bills with EJ Manuel in 2013) in a crappy class will just set you back.

Now if a blue chip QB prospect is available (think Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc) by all means, go for it. If they aren't then it's better to wait, draft an elite player at a different position, and take your shot at a QB in the 2nd or later rounds while adding stronger pieces at other positions with your higher picks which will give whatever QB you bring in a better chance and less pressure to succeed.
Dumb.

Deberg_1990
12-14-2015, 06:36 PM
30 TDs


Think the Texans are having regrets?
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The Franchise
12-14-2015, 06:42 PM
30 TDs


Think the Texans are having regrets?
Posted via Mobile Device

He's good. He just needs to continue working on being more consistent.

Eleazar
12-14-2015, 06:42 PM
Liked him before the draft, after the draft, and now.

Jacksonville is starting to get a lot of pieces in place. Hurns, Yeldon, Bortles, etc.

ModSocks
12-14-2015, 06:43 PM
Liked him before the draft, after the draft, and now.

Jacksonville is starting to get a lot of pieces in place. Hurns, Yeldon, Bortles, etc.

Don't forget Robinson. They need to develop that defense now.

Sorter
12-14-2015, 06:54 PM
I don't think that Bortles is anything special. But then again, I don't think that any of the available QBs are better football players than the top 10 players in this draft. They're always going to be overvalued because they are typically the most easily recognizable "stars" of the NFL.

Bortles is going to be solid.

How's Johnny Football doin?LMAO

Only guy within our reach that I would have liked to grab would have been Carr.

Bortles does not have a cannon. He has really good touch and feel for the passing game though.

Great QBs found after the 1st, can make all the throws, or weren't drafted by the team they became great with? Some of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round picks or won with another team.

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Joe Theismann
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Matt Hasselbeck
Rich Gannon
Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas

Etc, etc

Arguably the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round draft picks. (Montana, Brady, Starr, Unitas were all drafted in the 3rd or later.)

Does taking one in the 1st round improve your chances? Sure, but it largely depends on the quality of the QBs in that draft class. Just taking one for the sake of drafting a 1st round QB (Bills with EJ Manuel in 2013) in a crappy class will just set you back.

Now if a blue chip QB prospect is available (think Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc) by all means, go for it. If they aren't then it's better to wait, draft an elite player at a different position, and take your shot at a QB in the 2nd or later rounds while adding stronger pieces at other positions with your higher picks which will give whatever QB you bring in a better chance and less pressure to succeed.


LMAO.

ChiefsCountry
12-14-2015, 07:04 PM
LMAO.

Alex Smith 49er fan what do you expect.

milkman
12-16-2015, 07:19 AM
LMAO.

I have no idea what you are laughing at there.

mcaj22
12-16-2015, 10:11 AM
I have no idea what you are laughing at there.

Probably the part where he said "Bortles does not have a cannon" and yet Bortles leads the league in deep passes this season and I don't think it's even close.

Mile High Mania
12-16-2015, 10:14 AM
I hope the Jags win that division... looks like a fun young team. The NFL needs young faces.

ThaVirus
12-16-2015, 10:22 AM
The Jags are all about youth.

Bortles, Allen Robinson, Denard Robinson, Allen Hurns, TJ Yeldon, Julius Thomas.

They just need to be more consistent on offense and shore up the defense.

ThaVirus
12-16-2015, 10:22 AM
I think Allen Robinson is tied with OBJ for league-lead in TDs.

Who would have guessed?

OctoberFart
12-16-2015, 10:27 AM
More proof that there are a lot of clueless posters on this board who jump to conclusions in year one. Don't worry though that happens in all message boards.

Skyy God
12-16-2015, 10:34 AM
30 TDs

Think the Texans are having regrets?
Posted via Mobile Device

The Texans passed on Bortles, Johnny Foosball, Bridgewater, and Carr. What a retarded franchise.

Oh, and it was a typical Rams move to pass on a potentially elite QB and draft OL.

OctoberFart
12-16-2015, 10:39 AM
30 TDs


Think the Texans are having regrets?
Posted via Mobile Device

Regrets on passing on Mack. Mack in the first Carr in the second.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-16-2015, 10:42 AM
don't worry fart, Cryptkeeper will rise from the grave before Carr is a top QB

OctoberFart
12-16-2015, 10:43 AM
don't worry fart, Cryptkeeper will rise from the grave before Carr is a top QB

I know I don't have to worry about KC drafting a franchise QB. We can all say stuff about teams but that one is a fact even you guys cannot deny.

milkman
12-16-2015, 11:02 AM
Probably the part where he said "Bortles does not have a cannon" and yet Bortles leads the league in deep passes this season and I don't think it's even close.


He quoted a number of posts, ones that seem to be reasonable, that he laughs at.

Don't get it.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-16-2015, 11:06 AM
I know I don't have to worry about KC drafting a franchise QB. We can all say stuff about teams but that one is a fact even you guys cannot deny.

Still packed the faids Shit in

Sorter
12-16-2015, 11:16 AM
I have no idea what you are laughing at there.

That's a shame.

rico
12-16-2015, 04:06 PM
The dude started out by slamming Bortles, then the very next quoted post he wrote, "Bortles is going to be solid." Then on the next post wrote something that was less positive about Bortles again...with the "doesn't have a cannon" comment, when it seems to me that he does... I dunno, that's what I thought was funny about it...

I've been back and forth about Bortles... Someone mentioned his inconsistency. That's kind of what I've noticed...I think he will fully pan out eventually though.

Discuss Thrower
12-16-2015, 04:28 PM
The dude started out by slamming Bortles, then the very next quoted post he wrote, "Bortles is going to be solid." Then on the next post wrote something that was less positive about Bortles again...with the "doesn't have a cannon" comment, when it seems to me that he does... I dunno, that's what I thought was funny about it...

I've been back and forth about Bortles... Someone mentioned his inconsistency. That's kind of what I've noticed...I think he will fully pan out eventually though.

Mini-rapistburgher.

NJChiefsFan
12-16-2015, 04:49 PM
Mini-rapistburgher.

I see stafford when he was young, but ben is a decent comparison as well.

Buehler445
12-16-2015, 05:02 PM
I see stafford when he was young, but ben is a decent comparison as well.

Ben in a different system.

Remember cowherd scared ass didn't hardly let him throw the ball the first couple years.

Setsuna
12-16-2015, 07:49 PM
The past 3 games he's been consistent. I think he's over his bipolar moments and has figured it out.

58-4ever
12-16-2015, 08:18 PM
Bortles is going to throw a TON of TDs in his career. He's a playmaker and that Jags offense has won me a lot of money on Fan Duel.

BigCatDaddy
12-16-2015, 09:15 PM
A 2nd year QB asked to carry a team is going to be inconsistent a bit. Looks damn promising though.

MahiMike
12-16-2015, 09:28 PM
Love the guy. He's a gunslinger. Helps having the 2 alans.

rico
08-21-2017, 09:17 AM
For you PASmithGuy...

And of course...eat shit, squirrel tits.

Pasta Little Brioni
08-21-2017, 09:35 AM
I really like him.

Great decision maker.

Voyager in a nutshell, folks ROFL

rico
08-21-2017, 09:39 AM
Voyager in a nutshell, folks ROFL

ROFL

Direckshun, I love you man...but this is funny as hell. :D