Oh shit....

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Who goes?

Bray or Daniels. :(

[buddha]

Bray goes away...

And it's "Daniel"...no "s".

[keg in kc]

Neither would be my guess. But if one has to it's Daniel. Bray showed too much in the pre-season.

[KCDC]

Daniel goes. His salary is too high.

[fairladyZ]

i think daniel goes before bray... to much $$ and bray's had a year to sit in the system and alot cheaper than daniel

[Exoter175]

IF anybody goes, its Chase. Otherwise one of them gets IR.

[Hammock Parties]

Fuck them both. And Alex.

We bout to roll with this midget from the south.

Ain't got no gold-toof dawg but he a dawg nonetheless. And I gots a feelin' he a brotha inside.

[Ultra Peanut]

I'd rather it be Daniel, but whatevs

[BlackHelicopters]

Bray is gone

[hometeam]

Hopefully Daniel. I like Bray better, and he costs way less.

[milkman]

IF anybody goes, its Chase. Otherwise one of them gets IR.

Agreed.

I think jd has it right in the draft thread.

Murray suffered that ACL in November.

Perfect.

You get a chance to keep that vet backup, develop and evaluate Bray, and allow Murray to digest the system from IR.

[Hoover]

Who cares?

I mean really?

Surprised people are not asking: Who's staying Smith or Daniels.

[mcaj22]

Agreed.

I think jd has it right in the draft thread.

Murray suffered that ACL in November.

Perfect.

You get a chance to keep that vet backup, develop and evaluate Bray, and allow Murray to digest the system from IR.

so he can compete for a starting job in 2015 and we don't have to waste our cap on a 100 million dollar Alex Smith contract and all the 49ers fans can fuck back off to fucksville when Smith is gone

[RealSNR]

Murray has shown remarkable progress recovering from his ACL.

I'll bet you he's healthy enough to participate in limited drills in training camp.

[Ragged Robin]

so he can compete for a starting job in 2015 and we don't have to waste our cap on a 100 million dollar Alex Smith contract and all the 49ers fans can **** back off to ****sville when Smith is gone

ROFL so true

[Hammock Parties]

http://i.imgur.com/9orKCUo.jpg

[keg in kc]

Murray has shown remarkable progress recovering from his ACL.

I'll bet you he's healthy enough to participate in limited drills in training camp.Makes too much sense to hide him on IR though.

[Three7s]

People pimped the shit out of Stanzi and he was a 5th round pick. I'm not going anywhere with this one just yet.

And yes, I have seen him out of college, just saying there's always a chance he does nothing. We'll see.

That said, he's still worth the "risk".

[Rasputin]

TC & Preseason is going be a big deal to see how many reps each of these back up quarterbacks are going to get.

I hope Chase gets beat out and is gone.

[Rasputin]

People pimped the shit out of Stanzi and he was a 5th round pick. I'm not going anywhere with this one just yet.

And yes, I have seen him out of college, just saying there's always a chance he does nothing. We'll see.



I think it's going be if he can take advantage of the opportunities he gets & make more opportunity happen for himself.


Regardless I hope we draft a first round quarterback next year and let them compete.

[mcaj22]

People pimped the shit out of Stanzi and he was a 5th round pick. I'm not going anywhere with this one just yet.

And yes, I have seen him out of college, just saying there's always a chance he does nothing. We'll see.

That said, he's still worth the "risk".

People pimped every Pioli pick just to find the silver lining because we were desperate as a fan base grasping for straws from 2009-2012.

This is different.

[O.city]

Murray would have been a 3rd round pick if healthy.

[Fire Me Boy!]

You people thing Bray stays are retarded. There is zero chance we go into the season with Smith, a UFA sophomore, and a fifth-round draft pick.

[Discuss Thrower]

http://i.imgur.com/9orKCUo.jpg

Now I see it. Now I fuckin' know why Alex's look unsettled me.

He's a 21st century Max fucking Schreck.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/7/7/1278500923349/Max-Schreck-Nosferatu-006.jpg

[aturnis]

Daniel is gone. They seem to be getting replacements for our expensive guys, intentional or not.

[Mr. Kotter]

Daniel is gone. They seem to be getting replacements for our expensive guys, intentional or not.

Yep. Decent strategy at that.

[Strongside]

Butt chin is outie. Peace out, booger.

[CapsLockKey]

Does it matter? Neither are very good.

[ptlyon]

People pimped the shit out of Stanzi and he was a 5th round pick.

Stanzi sucked. Said so the day we drafted him. That was a Piloli/Ferentz favor hands down.

[unlurking]

Now I see it. Now I fuckin' know why Alex's look unsettled me.

He's a 21st century Max fucking Schreck.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/7/7/1278500923349/Max-Schreck-Nosferatu-006.jpg
Uncanny.

Oh, and agree with most everyone else. Daniel's salary will be what goes.

[ptlyon]

With the contract troubles, what if its Smith?

[kcpasco]

Daniel should be gone with that contract.

Murray and Bray as the backups. HELL YEAH!!!!

[BryanBusby]

You people thing Bray stays are retarded. There is zero chance we go into the season with Smith, a UFA sophomore, and a fifth-round draft pick.
It's not retarded in the slightest, really. These draft moves have been to cover dudes they have lost or for future salary dumps.

Chase Daniel is one salary they are going to dump, as paying a back up QB nearly 5 mil is just not going to happen.

[Mr. Laz]

depends on what Bray has shown in the meeting rooms and on the practice field


If the Chiefs really think Bray has a chance then Daniel is gone, if not then Bray gets whacked

[BryanBusby]

Not necessarily.

If they think Bray is ready to be the #2 guy, Daniel is cut right away. If they feel he isn't ready just yet, Murray lands on the IR with a made up injury.

If Bray is hopeless, yeah he gone.

[buddha]

If Bray were good enough, they wouldn't have taken Murray, IMO.

[Mr. Laz]

If Bray were good enough, they wouldn't have taken Murray, IMO.

that's a fair point, unless they are taking BPA and Murray was just next on the list

Maybe they think Daniel is tradable

[warrior]

Daniel goes. His salary is too high.

This :thumb:

[htismaqe]

They'll keep Daniel. No way they go into the season with Bray and Murray. Either Bray or Murray will be cut.

[htismaqe]

that's a fair point, unless they are taking BPA and Murray was just next on the list

Maybe they think Daniel is tradable

Maybe they'll just cut Murray.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Daniel is the better player right now, but Bray/Murray are the future.

[Baby Lee]

Daniel goes. His salary is too high.

My hope, with further hope someone thinks he can perform and offers us value for him.

[BryanBusby]

If Bray were good enough, they wouldn't have taken Murray, IMO.
Nope. Andy will keep investing in QB's even if the rotation looks set, get used to it.

[htismaqe]

Daniel is the better player right now, but Bray/Murray are the future.

One of them is.

They won't go into the season with both of them. No way.

They've been pretty conservative with a lot of moves so far, they're going to have a vet #2.

[kcjoker]

How much of a cap hit would it be to cut Daniel? I think Bray is out...Daniel played pretty well in that game vs the Chargers 70% completion and a QBR of 83. Maybe they tell Daniel he has to restructure his contract or they'll cut him...who knows.

[Whosurdaddy]

I hope we keep Daniels, because he reminds me of Chiefsplanet always doing this in the preseason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwchohlMjI

[TEX]

Who goes?

Bray or Daniels. :(

Bray

[Simply Red]

Does it matter? Neither are very good.

lol

[ILChief]

One of them is.

They won't go into the season with both of them. No way.

They've been pretty conservative with a lot of moves so far, they're going to have a vet #2.

Chase Daniel has started one game in the NFL. It's not like he has this wealth of experience

[KChiefs1]

The battle is between Bray & Murray.

[htismaqe]

Chase Daniel has started one game in the NFL. It's not like he has this wealth of experience

He has a ton of experience carrying a clipboard.

They're not going to go into the season with Bray and Murray as the backups.

Just can't see it.

[mcaj22]

He has a ton of experience carrying a clipboard.

They're not going to go into the season with Bray and Murray as the backups.

Just can't see it.

Why not? Andy Reid has done it before (go into the season with an inexperienced #2) a couple times.

Most recently was Vick and Foles as his 2

[htismaqe]

Why not? Andy Reid has done it before (go into the season with an inexperienced #2) a couple times.

Most recently was Vick and Foles as his 2

Well, you've got me there. He did do it that time.

How many other times has he done it that you can remember? I don't have THAT good of a memory about stuff like that...

[mcaj22]

Well, you've got me there. He did do it that time.

How many other times has he done it that you can remember? I don't have THAT good of a memory about stuff like that...

this one doesn't count because he was expected to start but he did it in 1999 with McNabb

McNabb was a rookie (Murray)
Detmer had 1 year in the league (Bray)
Pederson was 31 years old and started the season (Smith)

obviously the parameters are different (Murray being a 5th round pick, McNabb being a first rounder) but he has carried inexperience as his #2 before.

[htismaqe]

this one doesn't count because he was expected to start but he did it in 1999 with McNabb

McNabb was a rookie (Murray)
Detmer had 1 year in the league (Bray)
Pederson was 31 years old and started the season (Smith)

obviously the parameters are different (Murray being a 5th round pick, McNabb being a first rounder) but he has carried inexperience as his #2 before.

Yeah, that's a little different situation as far as the QBs.

But the one thing that has in common with now? It was early in his tenure.

Maybe he will do it. I'm still skeptical but there's certainly at least some precedent there...

[mcaj22]

Yeah, that's a little different situation as far as the QBs.

But the one thing that has in common with now? It was early in his tenure.

Maybe he will do it. I'm still skeptical but there's certainly at least some precedent there...

Yea I don't think he's afraid to go with inexperience as his #2. The question is are Murray/Bray more of the mold of Detmer/Feeley for Reid or are they a potential homerun like Foles. That's the question. If they are just young guys that are going to backup Smith for 5/6 years and be the next Detmer/Feeley then who cares.

[Reerun_KC]

How about Daniels and Billy Ray both go?

[htismaqe]

Yea I don't think he's afraid to go with inexperience as his #2. The question is are Murray/Bray more of the mold of Detmer/Feeley for Reid or are they a potential homerun like Foles. That's the question. If they are just young guys that are going to backup Smith for 5/6 years and be the next Detmer/Feeley then who cares.

If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

[Exoter175]

If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

Hey look, we're on the same page with Daniel. LMAO

[mcaj22]

If it were up to me, I'd pencil Murray in at the #2 spot right now.

I think he's "NFL ready" moreso than Bray. Bray is your developmental guy.

Murray needs development, but not as much as Bray.

The main reason I'd do it is because Daniel is just horribly overcompensated. I know I keep saying "awful" but it just is. Terrible.

even if they keep Daniel, Murray will beat him out for the #2. So you'd be paying that contract for a #3. That's how I justify not keeping him. If Smith gets hurt and you choose to want to put in Murray anyway, then there's no point in keeping Daniel. Murray can play from day 1, that's the argument. So you might as well have the development guy as the #3 and not the career clipboard holder eating cap space.

[htismaqe]

Hey look, we're on the same page with Daniel. LMAO

We always were.

[htismaqe]

even if they keep Daniel, Murray will beat him out for the #2. So you'd be paying that contract for a #3. That's how I justify not keeping him. If Smith gets hurt and you choose to want to put in Murray anyway, then there's no point in keeping Daniel. Murray can play from day 1, that's the argument. So you might as well have the development guy as the #3 and not the career clipboard holder eating cap space.

Yep, pretty much how I see it too.

[Anyong Bluth]

Is this a real question?

Because it should mostly definitely be an echo chamber.


DANIEL...



Daniel...



daniel...




danielle...




booger...

[TimeForWasp]

TC & Preseason is going be a big deal to see how many reps each of these back up quarterbacks are going to get.

I hope Chase gets beat out and is gone.


I agree, It would be better for him to actually get beat out instead of just cutting him for the money. I hope he does actually get beat out.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

How much cap space would be cleared if we cut Chase in preseason?

Edit: would it make sense?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I rather it be Daniel, but got a feeling its Bray unless he just absoluetly lights it up in training camp. I think they do want 1 developmental guy and then seasoned back up. But who knows maybe they can just IR Murray to let him completely heel up and keep all 4.