Great day for the Chiefs

[buddha]

Two legitimate offensive difference makers drafted today. Thomas is incredibly fast and quick, who can play slot, TB in certain sets and gives you a ton of gadget play possibilities. He is a freak on special teams. He and Tavon Austin are very similar players when both are healthy. Love that addition.

Aaron Murray is a terrific QB and perfect for Reid's West Coast passing game. He is very accurate in the short passing game, but also has the arm to stretch the field. I know he's not the tallest guy, but he's an exceptional four year QB who comes in with real skills, experience and is smart as hell.

I don't see Daniel being waived, because he gives the team NFL experience and moxie. Bray will be the casualty here.

Aaron Murray will be the QB of the future.

[Urc Burry]

Can we ride Bray or Daniel into the preseason and try and flip them for picks?

[Rausch]

I wonder if we can even get a 7th for Bray...

[keg in kc]

Yeah, I mentioned the Tayvon Austin similarity to a friend on facebook a bit ago. Austin was more polished as a receiver, but the playmaking ability is similar. People are too hung up on McCluster. This dude is not McCluster 2.0. More like Sproles 2.0.

I wasn't a Murray fan, but I'm a fan of the philosophy, so I'm good with it.

[Three7s]

I wonder if we can even get a 7th for Bray...
He'd have to do something in an actual game to get anything for him.....

[Ragged Robin]

I'm disappointed. After doing jack shit in free agency they go five rounds with only depth/developmental players..

[Sassy Squatch]

He'd have to do something in an actual game to get anything for him.....
IDK. Mallet has done jack shit and he seems to be on teams radars.

[BlackHelicopters]

Bray has no draft pick value

[keg in kc]

Bray may not have draft pick value now, but it doesn't mean he can't have draft pick value in 2015 or 2016.

[Mecca]

I'm disappointed. After doing jack shit in free agency they go five rounds with only depth/developmental players..

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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[Ragged Robin]

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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yeah.. it just sucks because last season felt close to something :(

[Chief_For_Life58]

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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sad but true

[Lex Luthor]

I'm disappointed. After doing jack shit in free agency they go five rounds with only depth/developmental players..
You're right. Dorsey really should have drafted Jadeveon Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, and Justin Gilbert.

Some of you guys are really just annoying because you speak with such authority when you really have no idea what you're talking about.

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer. And then when they draft a guy in the 5th round who some people have said has the potential to be the best quarterback in this class, you still find an excuse to bitch and complain.

Just shut up. Seriously.

[Ragged Robin]

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer.

They won't. Yes you can count on that. Ford will spell Hali in passing situations and Gaines might see the field as a nickel. Maybe starters next year but this year, no way in hell unless a few people up the depth chart get moved.

[Lex Luthor]

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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You should probably go back to telling everyone how disgusted you were with the Chiefs for not drafting Mark Sanchez, because Sanchez was going to be so freaking GREAT. At least then you could make a believable argument, even if it turned out that you were 100% wrong.

Your football takes haven't had any credibility for several years.

[Chief_For_Life58]

who have we drafted so far? ford, rice cb, thomas, murray?

[Exoter175]

I'm disappointed. After doing jack shit in free agency they go five rounds with only depth/developmental players..

What else did you want? Short of a Slot Receiver, Free Safety, and an Inside Linebacker, we have no holes to draft starters for. Everything is going to be depth or specialist types this year anyways.

[Ragged Robin]

What else did you want? Short of a Slot Receiver, Free Safety, and an Inside Linebacker, we have no holes to draft starters for. Everything is going to be depth or specialist types this year anyways.

Dood. Wat.

[buddha]

You're right. Dorsey really should have drafted Jadeveon Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, and Justin Gilbert.

Some of you guys are really just annoying because you speak with such authority when you really have no idea what you're talking about.

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer. And then when they draft a guy in the 5th round who some people have said has the potential to be the best quarterback in this class, you still find an excuse to bitch and complain.

Just shut up. Seriously.

The best post of the day...Brainiac just nailed it.

[Lex Luthor]

who have we drafted so far? ford, rice cb, thomas, murray?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/tracker#dt-by-round-input:6/dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-team-input:kc

[mrroandrro]

You're right. Dorsey really should have drafted Jadeveon Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, and Justin Gilbert.

Some of you guys are really just annoying because you speak with such authority when you really have no idea what you're talking about.

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer. And then when they draft a guy in the 5th round who some people have said has the potential to be the best quarterback in this class, you still find an excuse to bitch and complain.

Just shut up. Seriously.

THIS X A MILLION!!!

[Kaepernick]

IDK. Mallet has done jack shit and he seems to be on teams radars.

Bellichick and McCarthy are just assumed to work wonders. Which explains the Matt Flynn sweepstakes.

[gblowfish]

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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The Season Tickets were not discounted, though. Big surprise...

[Kaepernick]

yeah.. it just sucks because last season felt close to something :(

But now you are on everybody's radar. It is serious go time now. Dorsey is doing the exact right thing - rebuilding the team in Andy's image. Going BPA has given you the best possible draft, I mean if those guys hit of course...

For so few picks, you had a good draft.

[Kaepernick]

You should probably go back to telling everyone how disgusted you were with the Chiefs for not drafting Mark Sanchez, because Sanchez was going to be so freaking GREAT. At least then you could make a believable argument, even if it turned out that you were 100% wrong.

Your football takes haven't had any credibility for several years.

Sanchez was ruined by poor QB development. Who knows how good he would have been?

[Why Not?]

yeah.. it just sucks because last season felt close to something :(

Playing Jeff Tuel and the like will do that to a man

[BlackHelicopters]

Andrew Lucks no Jeff Tuel

[TEX]

The best post of the day...Brainiac just nailed it.

No he didnt. Its a rah-rah post. Ill bet you and he anything that Gains is not going to be an immediate starter. He's got potential to be that some day, but not immediately. Havng said that, I like the pick.

[buddha]

No he didnt. Its a rah-rah post. Ill bet you and he anything that Gains is not going to be an immediate starter. He's got potential to be that some day, but not immediately. Havng said that, I like the pick.

Tex, I bet he's in the rotation back there. I don't really care if he's starting immediately or not.

That detail doesn't discredit the point of the post.

[TEX]

What else did you want? Short of a Slot Receiver, Free Safety, and an Inside Linebacker, we have no holes to draft starters for. Everything is going to be depth or specialist types this year anyways.

You happy with the O-Line? Far too many questions for them all to work out.

[Mr. Laz]

Yeah, I mentioned the Tayvon Austin similarity to a friend on facebook a bit ago. Austin was more polished as a receiver, but the playmaking ability is similar. People are too hung up on McCluster. This dude is not McCluster 2.0. More like Sproles 2.0.

I wasn't a Murray fan, but I'm a fan of the philosophy, so I'm good with it.
no way

sproles is physical and tough

this guy goes down finger tackles, much like DmC

[keg in kc]

no way

sproles is physical and tough

this guy goes down finger tackles, much like DmCI was comparing them in terms of explosiveness. McCluster doesn't have the speed to pull away from a secondary. He's a lateral sort of shifty guy, more akin to Dante Hall. Thomas (like Sproles) does have that extra gear. He can hit hard north/south and turn plays that netted Dex 5 or 10 yards (before he was folded in half like a cheap lawn chair...) into a longer gain.

Yes, Sproles is more of a pure running back than Thomas. He's about 15 pounds heavier. I'm not saying they're the same guy. What I'm saying is that the end result is likely to be an improvement over McCluster.

I think we're all conditioned to expect less because of Dex. This guy may/should end up being more.

[htismaqe]

They won't. Yes you can count on that. Ford will spell Hali in passing situations and Gaines might see the field as a nickel. Maybe starters next year but this year, no way in hell unless a few people up the depth chart get moved.

They're both going to play significant minutes.

[dtrain]

You're right. Dorsey really should have drafted Jadeveon Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, and Justin Gilbert.

Some of you guys are really just annoying because you speak with such authority when you really have no idea what you're talking about.

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer. And then when they draft a guy in the 5th round who some people have said has the potential to be the best quarterback in this class, you still find an excuse to bitch and complain.

Just shut up. Seriously.

WORD! :thumb:

[TLO]

Love this draft. Love the AM pick.

[Chiefshrink]

IDK. Mallet has done jack shit and he seems to be on teams radars.

Studying under Bellichek/McDaniel/Brady development brings street cred. Even without ever seeing the field, is the only possible explanation that I can come up with.

[mlyonsd]

I see this draft as Dorsey building the core.

I can't explain what he's thinking for WR's or S though.

[kysirsoze]

You happy with the O-Line? Far too many questions for them all to work out.

There was no way they were going to draft a day 1 OL starter.

[Saccopoo]

Pretty obvious they think this is a rebuilding team not a win now team, probably should accept that.
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I disagree.

If they felt it was a rebuild, they would have actually taken players who were good and offered some degree of upside instead of a bunch of fucking stiffs who are worse than the guys they lost in free agency.

[Tribal Warfare]

You're right. Dorsey really should have drafted Jadeveon Clowney, Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack, Jake Mathews, and Justin Gilbert.

Some of you guys are really just annoying because you speak with such authority when you really have no idea what you're talking about.

If you think Dee Ford and Phillip Gaines aren't going to be immediate starters, then you should really stick to watching soccer. And then when they draft a guy in the 5th round who some people have said has the potential to be the best quarterback in this class, you still find an excuse to bitch and complain.

Just shut up. Seriously.

Alex Only Fans dude

[SDChiefs]

i agree. they should let smith walk, they only gave up 2 picks for him. Hes easily replacable by a late rd qb. and charles is overrated anyways. cut him and save money. davis too. rbbc new running back every play. defenses will never know what them. now all we need is 10 or 12 more olbs that missed games in every season and were set. to the ship!!!!!

[Strongside]

Please stop comparing Thomas to McCluster. Please.

[BigRedChief]

I'm disappointed. After doing jack shit in free agency they go five rounds with only depth/developmental players..
https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10277417_10152384844376462_1574626906759130188_n.jpg

[Aspengc8]

They won't. Yes you can count on that. Ford will spell Hali in passing situations and Gaines might see the field as a nickel. Maybe starters next year but this year, no way in hell unless a few people up the depth chart get moved.

:spock:

[Chieftain58]

Well if we can get some production out of Kelce and Commings then we might actually be onto to something

[chiefzilla1501]

Two legitimate offensive difference makers drafted today. Thomas is incredibly fast and quick, who can play slot, TB in certain sets and gives you a ton of gadget play possibilities. He is a freak on special teams. He and Tavon Austin are very similar players when both are healthy. Love that addition.

Aaron Murray is a terrific QB and perfect for Reid's West Coast passing game. He is very accurate in the short passing game, but also has the arm to stretch the field. I know he's not the tallest guy, but he's an exceptional four year QB who comes in with real skills, experience and is smart as hell.

I don't see Daniel being waived, because he gives the team NFL experience and moxie. Bray will be the casualty here.

Aaron Murray will be the QB of the future.

I think the Chiefs will keep 4 QBs and ditch Daniel when they feel like one of our young guys is good enough to be a starter. It doesn't seem to be Dorsey's nature to like overpaying for free agents. He seems to be bringing in big contracts to be stopgaps he hopes to replace one day.

[saphojunkie]

I think the Chiefs will keep 4 QBs and ditch Daniel when they feel like one of our young guys is good enough to be a starter. It doesn't seem to be Dorsey's nature to like overpaying for OUR free agents. He seems to be bringing in big contracts to be stopgaps he hopes to replace one day.

Fixed

[xztop123]

Please stop comparing Thomas to McCluster. Please.

I was under the impression that he's probably not as good as mccluster... how are they different?

[htismaqe]

Fixed

Really? ;)

[BlackOp]

This was a very logical draft..actually the $28 million draft, IMO. Hali, Flowers, Daniels...and McCluster. Hali is around $10 million next year as is Flowers...Chase is $4 million and Dexter got something around $4 million this year. KC was strapped and couldn't maneuver in FA. Flowers is an above average under-sized corner playing in the wrong system and Hali will be 32.

Would I have liked KC to take Lee at 23....sure...but then they would have to draft Hali's replacement next season and not have him around to mentor Ford. Smith and Houston are going to get paid and this is how the Chiefs plan on doing it.

It's a pretty solid strategy as the offense wasn't the issue over the last 8 games...not to mention Kelce is like a 2014 draft pick as is Commings..except they have a year under their belts in the system.

[Saccopoo]

I was under the impression that he's probably not as good as mccluster... how are they different?

He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.

[htismaqe]

He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.

Not that I don't agree with you (I do) but Jamaal Charles was also a "track guy" when we drafted him.

Sometimes we have to be patient.

[BlackOp]

He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.

He scored 46 TD's in 3 years at Oregon...that's pretty much a football guy. KC used a 4th..instead of a second. I didn't hate McCluster...but it was too high for him. I wasn't upset that he wasn't resigned. I think the Chiefs can do better..

[mcan]

He scored 46 TD's in 3 years at Oregon...that's pretty much a football guy. KC used a 4th..instead of a second. I didn't hate McCluster...but it was too high for him. I wasn't upset that he wasn't resigned. I think the Chiefs can do better..

McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.

[htismaqe]

McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.

I only really disagree with the part in bold. At times last year, he was one of the few that could consistently move the chains it seemed like.

Otherwise, I agree with you.

[jd1020]

I only really disagree with the part in bold. At times last year, he was one of the few that could consistently move the chains it seemed like.

Otherwise, I agree with you.

He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.

[Baby Lee]

McCluster showed some flash, but never really developed a second dimension to his game. Never really made people miss. Never really became a great slot receiver who could move the chains. Never really became a speed threat. Went down too easily. Had great return averages, but never really became that "break the game wide open" with a great return guy either... He's really pretty average.

The one thing that disappointed me about losing McCluster was, after the egregious drop earlier in the season, he had one of the most impressive unheralded receptions of the season later. I have no idea how to track it down, but it was on the sidelines and and he twisted his entire body nearly 360 degrees and snatched it over his head, hands only. He like launched himself horizontal, went into a corkscrew, caught it at about 270 degrees rotation and landed on his chest with the ball overhead.

[htismaqe]

He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.

True.

[mcan]

He also did become that return guy that breaks open a game. Near the end of the season it seemed like every time he returned a punt it was for big yards.

He had a few big games, but even in those he wasn't breaking tackles or out running people. He was following some damn good blocking up to the point where someone would touch him and he'd just go down or get pushed out of bounds. I thought our other returners actually showed more flash and athleticism/speed.

[RunKC]

He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.

How about we make a bet Sac? I bet that Thomas easily produces more on offense than McCluster did in his best season in KC.

511 yards and 2 TD's in McClusters best offensive production in 4 years in KC. I'm telling you right now Thomas easily outdoes him year 1.

What say you?

[BlackOp]

I think it speaks volumes that Reid wanted to draft McCluster to the Eagles...but let him roll after having him for one season.

[Exoter175]

I think it speaks volumes that Reid wanted to draft McCluster to the Eagles...but let him roll after having him for one season.

And then drafts his cheaper, faster replacement?

I don't think it speaks volumes that "Reid" anything, I think it speaks volumes that Dorsey wasn't going to pay him.

Dorsey seems to have control of the final decision on roster moves, not the other way around.

[Dayze]

this recent football activity has caused me to develop a football itch. (need ball powder). I'm read for football to start already.

[aturnis]

He's a track guy and McCluster is a football player.

McCluster is stronger.

If I had a choice, I'd take McCluster every single time.

Wow. Good for you?

[Saccopoo]

Wow. Good for you?

Good for me.