Andre Johnson anyone?

[Kiimo]

Come be a hero.


Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith · 15m
Andre Johnson: "This offseason has been very frustrating for me." Doesn't plan to attend OTAs. #Texans

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli · 13m
Andre Johnson says he's been wondering if this is the place for him. Says he doesn't plan to be at OTAs or minicamp currently. #Texans

Brian T. Smith ‏@ChronBrianSmith · 17m
Andre Johnson: "Is this still the place for me?"

Tania Ganguli ‏@taniaganguli · 12m
Johnson said losing has been frustrating him. Mentioned being on his third head coach. #Texans

[Chief_For_Life58]

yes

[Chief_For_Life58]

IWSH

[seaofred]

What's his contract look like?

[Chiefs316]

Don't like the fit he is throwing but yes please.

[ModSocks]

So.....he has no real qualms other than tired of being on a losing team?

So.....he's giving up on his team?

Hrmmm.....interdasting. I never thought he was that kinda guy.

[In58men]

He's good for 2 solid years IMO. I would take a flyer on him, draft a WR next year and let him groom under Bowe and Johnson.

[silver5liter]

yes, give our first next year and something else.

[thabear04]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/andre-johnson/

I found this on this contract.

[Direckshun]

Why not two 2nds? LMAO

[ModSocks]

He'll be a Patriot.

[ModSocks]

yes, give our first next year and something else.

Put down the pipe.

[In58men]

yes, give our first next year and something else.

No way, hopefully you're being sarcastic.

[thabear04]

yes, give our first next year and something else.

Or give him a second round and a third round and if he does good than that third round become a second round.

[In58men]

He'll be a Bronco.

FYP

[seaofred]

No, way too much money owed for a 32 year old WR.

[ModSocks]

Or give him a second round and a third round and if he does good than that third round become a second round.

Fuck that.

He's getting old (33 before the season starts), has a huge contract and is dinged up every season.

[WhawhaWhat]

I'd offer a 4th and would accept a trade for a 3rd. He's got a hefty contract.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

3rd head coach in 12 years is nothing. Probably speaks to how much of a Pats dolt that O'Brien is.

[ThaVirus]

Guy is 46 years old. I'll pass.

[King_Chief_Fan]

He will be a Raider?

[-King-]

So.....he has no real qualms other than tired of being on a losing team?

So.....he's giving up on his team?

Hrmmm.....interdasting. I never thought he was that kinda guy.

What kind of guy? A guy that would rather win than lose?

[ModSocks]

What kind of guy? A guy that would rather win than lose?

A guy that would quit on his teammates and fans.

[ThaVirus]

What kind of guy? A guy that would rather win than lose?

Larry Fitzgerald has been on some shit teams with even shittier QBs and that dude's never complained a day in his life.

Andre Johnson has been nothing but class (except when he dicked that little douche Finnegan) his entire career so I don't agree that he's a quitter, but this is definitely uncharacteristic for him.

[J Diddy]

Larry Fitzgerald has been on some shit teams with even shittier QBs and that dude's never complained a day in his life.

Andre Johnson has been nothing but class (except when he dicked that little douche Finnegan) his entire career so I don't agree that he's a quitter, but this is definitely uncharacteristic for him.

Dude wants to win.

[Hoover]

I'd take him, but only after he was cut. No way you can deal with that contract.

[TEX]

This deal with Andre has been brewing for the better part of a year now. Before last season, his agent informed the Texans that he wanted an extension so he could, "Retire a Texan." The Texans refused because they have JJ Watt, and other deals to do after this season and they had questions with Schaub and others last season in that they didn't know how it would all play out, not to mention AJ's age. A.J feels like he's been loyal to the team, when he didn't have to be, and could have played elsewhere for more $$$, but he didn't, Dude just wants a ring now that he's nearing the end of his career. My bet is he goes elsewhere, he ends up with Kubes in Baltimore - Dude (when healthy) is still a top 5 WR and if KC can get him somehow they should do it, - Just my opinion. Deal is though, his contract is a problem and he's starting to get those nagging injuries that seem to signal the decline of aging players.

[Chief Roundup]

He will be a Raider?

Not if he wants to win and doesn't like a coaching carousel.

[Chief Roundup]

Not paying 21.5 over the next 2 for a guy of his age, 32, either.

[TEX]

Guy is 46 years old. I'll pass.

More like 32...

[-King-]

A guy that would quit on his teammates and fans.
That's bullshit. A player's goal is to win. If you're constantly losing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to go to a team that wins.

[ndws]

Dorsey likes player/player trades, so go straight up for Flowers and call it a day.

[TEX]

Larry Fitzgerald has been on some shit teams with even shittier QBs and that dude's never complained a day in his life.

Andre Johnson has been nothing but class (except when he dicked that little douche Finnegan) his entire career so I don't agree that he's a quitter, but this is definitely uncharacteristic for him.

When players / people feel "slighted", they do weird things. In his eyes, the Texans have disrespected him.

[TEX]

Dorsey likes player/player trades, so go straight up for Flowers and call it a day.

The Texans would do that in a second.

[Easy 6]

More like 32...

The man is 77 years old.

But really, I thought the Texans did some nice things in the draft, why should he be so mad, his defense is about to be a pass rushing nightmare and they also got a QB with some solid bona fides.

[BlackHelicopters]

21.5? Think again.

[TEX]

That's bullshit. A player's goal is to win. If you're constantly losing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to go to a team that wins.

Especially when you could have gone elsewhere for more $$$, when the team was a perennial loser, but chose to stay.

[DeezNutz]

Yep.

Don't care about the contract. Want the talent.

[TEX]

The man is 77 years old.

Oh yeah, you're right. My bad...

[The Franchise]

The Texans would do that in a second.

Chase Daniel and Brandon Flowers.....straight up.

[Easy 6]

Chase Daniel and Brandon Flowers.....straight up.

DONE

[RealSNR]

I'd give them Eric Fisher

[salame]

I would die
he is my favorite

[Discuss Thrower]

Trade every pick that is in the same round as a compensation pick in 2015.

[ModSocks]

He's going to be 33 Before the season starts.

33.

When's the last time he played a full season?

Add in the size of his contract....

Does it REALLY make sense?

Anything more than a 3rd-4th (and that's pushing it) is overpaying.

[ModSocks]

Yep.

Don't care about the contract. Want the talent.

Or whatever talent is left. He's getting old and he's battled nagging injuries every season. He's good for a 1-2 year flyer on a team that's ready to compete for a SB NOW.

It's not a good fit for the Chiefs.

[TEX]

He's going to be 33 Before the season starts.

33.

When's the last time he played a full season?

Add in the size of his contract....

Does it REALLY make sense?

Anything more than a 3rd-4th (and that's pushing it) is overpaying.

Played a full season in 2012. Last season he missed a couple of games. 2011 he missed more than just a few.

[Omaha]

Oh fuck yeah!

[KCUnited]

Don't need no 1,400 yard receivers here.

[keg in kc]

If it was 5 years ago, sure.

[Chief Roundup]

21.5? Think again.

http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Andre%20Johnson&Position=WR&Team=Texans


If he is cut or traded the Texans eat the signing and roster bonuses as well as any and all other bonuses.
He is due 10.5 this year and 11 next year in base salary.

What are you thinking?

[OldSchool]

I'd be pissed too if my FO did nothing except sign Ryan Fitzpatrick and draft a 4th round QB in Tom Savage.

[TEX]

I'd be pissed too if my FO did nothing except sign Ryan Fitzpatrick and draft a 4th round QB in Tom Savage.

and SIGNED KENDRICK LEWIS!!!!! ROFL

[CaliforniaChief]

In 2011 he only started 7 games due to injury. Other than that year, here is his production:

2013: 109 catches, 1,407 yards, 5 TD's.
2012: 112 catches, 1,598 yards, 4 TD's.
2010: 86 catches, 1,216 yards, 8 TD's.

Even in his 2011 injury year, he only played in 7 games and still managed 33 catches/492 yards, which is under 200 yards less than Dwayne Bowe had ALL SEASON last year.

Oh yeah, and that's with Matt Schaub as his QB.

[OldSchool]

Trade them Flowers for Johnson. I wish.

[-King-]

Or whatever talent is left. He's getting old and he's battled nagging injuries every season. He's good for a 1-2 year flyer on a team that's ready to compete for a SB NOW.

It's not a good fit for the Chiefs.

"Whatever talent is left" was still good enough for 1400 yards last year.
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[bevischief]

Trade them Flowers for Johnson. I wish.

Maybe...

[lcarus]

I'd be good with it, but he does seem hurt quite a bit.

[ModSocks]

In 2011 he only started 7 games due to injury. Other than that year, here is his production:

2013: 109 catches, 1,407 yards, 5 TD's.
2012: 112 catches, 1,598 yards, 4 TD's.
2010: 86 catches, 1,216 yards, 8 TD's.

Even in his 2011 injury year, he only played in 7 games and still managed 33 catches/492 yards, which is under 200 yards less than Dwayne Bowe had ALL SEASON last year.

Oh yeah, and that's with Matt Schaub as his QB.

I will now gracefully bow out. Despite his dings, he's productive as fuck.

But his injury history, age and contract are still very bothersome.

[TEX]

I will now gracefully bow out. Despite his dings, he's productive as ****.

But his injury history, age and contract are still very bothersome.

I know the kind of player he is because I've seen nearly every game he's played. Dude is a top 5 WR when healthy and he's slipped a bit ONLY because of nagging injuries.

[kc79]

Dorsey likes player/player trades, so go straight up for Flowers and call it a day.

They would have to give us a pick as well. Flowers for Johnson+5th rd pick that could turn into a 3rd

[ThaVirus]

Yeah, I just checked and the dude is a yardage BEAST. Only averages 14 games a season but still goes for 1,150 per. That's an insane average over an 11 year career.

He has yet to crack 10 TDs in a single season though. I wonder how a guy can be so productive as far as catches and yards go but lag so significantly in TDs.. Strange.

[Easy 6]

Its a fun subject to banter and dream about, but the 100% fact of the matter is that no matter what happens... he WONT be coming to Kansas City.

[saphojunkie]

I will now gracefully bow out. Despite his dings, he's productive as ****.

But his injury history, age and contract are still very bothersome.

Contract doesn't bother me. We could spend 10M on him this year and cut him with no cap hit next year.

[TEX]

Its a fun subject to banter and dream about, but the 100% fact of the matter is that no matter what happens... he WONT be coming to Kansas City.

Probably Denver...

[CaliforniaChief]

I will now gracefully bow out. Despite his dings, he's productive as fuck.

But his injury history, age and contract are still very bothersome.

Absolutely.

I look at it this way. He was an elite, top 2-3 WR in the league. Now, he's probably top ten, which is elite by our standards.

[The Franchise]

Probably Denver...

Off topic.....but fucking hell.

Demaryius Thomas
Wes Welker
Emmanuel Sanders
Andre Caldwell
Cody Latimer

[IamBATMAN]

Trade rumors show Oakland and Cleveland....

[carcosa]

Ummmmm yes please.

[Easy 6]

Probably Denver...

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[GordonGekko]

Yeah, this guy is going to Boston or Denver.

Probably Denver, where he will be part of 15 win regular season team only to get destroyed in the playoffs by a team that actually plays defense.

[The Franchise]

Yeah, this guy is going to Boston or Denver.

Probably Denver, where he will be part of 15 win regular season team only to get destroyed in the playoffs by a team that actually plays defense.

So they're carrying 6 WRs?

[TEX]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

LOL! Just kidding. He and Kubes were VERY close so my guess is IF he goes anywhere, it will be to the Ravens now that Gary is their OC.

[Dunerdr]

Do we have patriot trash to trade em?

[htismaqe]

That would be some kind of fucking karma if they landed Andre Johnson after not taking a WR in the draft.

And especially after what happened with Emmanuel Sanders...

[TEX]

Trade rumors show Oakland and Cleveland....

And have Schaub throw to him again! ROFL

Damn that would be funny. I don't wish that on AJ.

[GordonGekko]

So they're carrying 6 WRs?

I'm fully convinced that Peyton Manning will retire going 1-3 in Superbowls :)

[GordonGekko]

And have Schaub throw to him again! ROFL

Damn that would be funny. I don't wish that on AJ.

Raiders or Cleveland? WTF!?! Just stay in Houston JFC.

[-King-]

Yeah, I just checked and the dude is a yardage BEAST. Only averages 14 games a season but still goes for 1,150 per. That's an insane average over an 11 year career.

He has yet to crack 10 TDs in a single season though. I wonder how a guy can be so productive as far as catches and yards go but lag so significantly in TDs.. Strange.
Arian Foster.
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[TEX]

That would be some kind of ****ing karma if they landed Andre Johnson after not taking a WR in the draft.

And especially after what happened with Emmanuel Sanders...

Thinking the same thing...But you KNOW that kind of thing doesn't happen to KC...

Karma bitch slaps the Chiefs and he lands in Denver, cuz THAT KIND OF THING DOES happen to KC...ROFL

[nychief]

Despite the Smith trade, I don't see this group parting with a picks often.

[The Franchise]

Thinking the same thing...But you KNOW that kind of thing doesn't happen to KC...

Karma bitch slaps the Chiefs and he lands in Denver, cuz THAT KIND OF THING DOES happen to KC...ROFL

I'd laugh because there would be no way that they would carry 7 WRs.....so they'd be cutting someone.

[saphojunkie]

I'd laugh because there would be no way that they would carry 7 WRs.....so they'd be cutting someone.

Emmanuel Sanders. Then KC signs him and puts him on special teams until he fires his agent.

[Easy 6]

And have Schaub throw to him again! ROFL

Damn that would be funny. I don't wish that on AJ.

LMAO no joke.

[DeezNutz]

That would be some kind of ****ing karma if they landed Andre Johnson after not taking a WR in the draft.

And especially after what happened with Emmanuel Sanders...

And we all skeet skeet.

[WhiteWhale]

Don't like the fit he is throwing but yes please.

I understand it though.

The guy is up there and only has a short time left. The texans are ready to rebuild and he probably doesn't want to stick around for it.

I don't blame him.

[CaliforniaChief]

I understand it though.

The guy is up there and only has a short time left. The texans are ready to rebuild and he probably doesn't want to stick around for it.

I don't blame him.

Rebuild? That defense is going to rape faces.

[The Franchise]

Rebuild? That defense is going to rape faces.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/345772/4d3rc.jpeg

[Strongside]

Rebuild? That defense is going to rape faces.

A one dimensional team might get you to the big dance, but you'll just get your own face raped on the dance floor. Just ask fathead.

[Chief Roundup]

Yeah, I just checked and the dude is a yardage BEAST. Only averages 14 games a season but still goes for 1,150 per. That's an insane average over an 11 year career.

He has yet to crack 10 TDs in a single season though. I wonder how a guy can be so productive as far as catches and yards go but lag so significantly in TDs.. Strange.

He has a lot of long plays but got caught from behind. He was the only target for so long and then came Arian Foster and Ben Tate.

[htismaqe]

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/345772/4d3rc.jpeg

http://l.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/aYgzCuWylG49Z5JvHOYeaA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2ZpPWluc2V0O2g9MTcw/http://d3.yimg.com/sr/img/1/cfe5c6e0-5bf1-3750-8c3c-ede3f485e246

[Chief Roundup]

Patriots, Seahawks, 49ers, Rams, or Browns would make the most sense for obvious reasons.

[Mr. Laz]

Not paying 21.5 over the next 2 for a guy of his age, 32, either.

shit ... aren't we paying more than that for Bowe?

[ThaVirus]

Arian Foster.
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No way. Foster's only had, like, two good seasons.

[Kiimo]

“When you bring a new coach in, you go through a rebuilding process,” Johnson said. “Some people say it’s not. Some people say it’s a quick fix. Everybody has their own opinion. But I’ve been through the situation more than once.”

More than anything, Johnson made it clear the Texans’ losing has simply worn on him. Since 2003, the Texans have posted six losing seasons and only two with 10-plus wins. They went 12-4 in 2012 but collapsed last year. In all, Johnson’s only been part of two playoff wins in 11 years.

“I just look at my career. … I’ve only been to the playoffs twice. I think we’ve only had three winning seasons,” said Johnson, who at least twice last season expressed his frustration on the field during games. “I don’t think any player wants to experience that. I think over time it can become very frustrating. And this offseason has been very frustrating for me; beginning of the offseason, I should say. That’s just kind of where I’m at right now.”

Johnson said he’s keep in contact with the Texans, talking with the club at least once every other week. He also made it clear he hasn’t requested a trade and isn’t concerned with his contract. For a Texan who could one day be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it’s more about the franchise’s failings in the past and uncertain future than anything else.

“I’m just taking some time, thinking about some things,” Johnson said. “You know, when I make my decision I’ll make my decision and go from there.”

[Easy 6]

http://l.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/aYgzCuWylG49Z5JvHOYeaA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2ZpPWluc2V0O2g9MTcw/http://d3.yimg.com/sr/img/1/cfe5c6e0-5bf1-3750-8c3c-ede3f485e246

That mustache alone is worth 7 points.

[TEX]

He has a lot of long plays but got caught from behind. He was the only target for so long and then came Arian Foster and Ben Tate.

There's been lots of WR's, TE's and RB's who have caught passes in Houston. They've all come and gone but AJ has been the one constant. They spread the ball around during the Kubiak years mire than the early ones.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

There are going to be far more cheaper options that will be released at WR that won't handicap us financially.... wait for that. Can't pay two WR's 10+ million.

[TEX]

Rebuild? That defense is going to rape faces.

Not much of a Secondary beyond Joseph ( lost a step) and Jackson. No special LB's after Cushing ( injured last 2 seasons). They have a D-Line but they lost Smith. Lots of holes on defense when you really take a look at it...:shrug: A rebuild is exactly whats going on on both sides of the ball.

[Iconic]

Bet the Pats get him.

[OldSchool]

The addition of Clowney alone should make that defense signifcantly better because they can't just double team JJ Watt anymore.

[DTLB58]

When I first read this, this afternoon I thought its because he's looking at possibly having a rookie QB throwing passes to him.

The whole thing about 3 new head coaches, what does he think he is gonna get if he is traded/cut.

I'd give anything 3rd-7th for him.

Last two seasons. Averaging about 110 rec. 1500 yards 4.5 TD's.

[DTLB58]

He'll be a Patriot.

Not on that contract.

[DeezNutz]

The addition of Clowney alone should make that defense signifcantly better because they can't just double team JJ Watt anymore.

With all sorts of expectations and pressure, Clowney drank from the dick sock his senior year.

I'm confident this will change with the decreased expectations that players who go 1/1 carry.

[DTLB58]

Dorsey likes player/player trades, so go straight up for Flowers and call it a day.

Now I'm down for this all day long! :thumb:

[-King-]

No way. Foster's only had, like, two good seasons.

He's had years of 18, 12, and 17 touchdowns. He takes away a lot for players like Andre.

[Kiimo]

They went 12-4 in 2012 but collapsed last year. In all, Johnson’s only been part of two playoff wins in 11 years.


Oh poor Andre Johnson. UM, considering we haven't won one in 21 years I think that just about rules out the Chiefs.

[Coochie liquor]

Aside from last season they had a decent run at playoffs. Jeez, one crappy year and he want. Out? Don't want him with that contract and would rather not lose anymore draft picks.

[Kaepernick]

Hey Andre. Come to the 49ers on a 1 year, 5 million contract and I guarantee you a ring. Then you can sign anywhere and go for the bucks but you will always have that RING!

Andre Johnson
Michael Crabtree
Stevie Johnson
Anquan Boldin.

Yep. that works for me. The rotating 3 wide receiver set from hell.

[DTLB58]

Its a fun subject to banter and dream about, but the 100% fact of the matter is that no matter what happens... he WONT be coming to Kansas City.

Yeah, if the dude gets cut can you see his agent saying KC is one of the places you wanna look at? No cap room, already paying their #1 the 3rd biggest WR contract in the league and the offense doesn't dictate to 1 or even 2 guys. They like to spread it around.

[DTLB58]

Despite the Smith trade, I don't see this group parting with a picks often.

Agreed. 1) it was about the position. 2) Reid had a giant size woody for AS.

[DTLB58]

“When you bring a new coach in, you go through a rebuilding process,” Johnson said. “Some people say it’s not. Some people say it’s a quick fix. Everybody has their own opinion. But I’ve been through the situation more than once.”

More than anything, Johnson made it clear the Texans’ losing has simply worn on him. Since 2003, the Texans have posted six losing seasons and only two with 10-plus wins. They went 12-4 in 2012 but collapsed last year. In all, Johnson’s only been part of two playoff wins in 11 years.

“I just look at my career. … I’ve only been to the playoffs twice. I think we’ve only had three winning seasons,” said Johnson, who at least twice last season expressed his frustration on the field during games. “I don’t think any player wants to experience that. I think over time it can become very frustrating. And this offseason has been very frustrating for me; beginning of the offseason, I should say. That’s just kind of where I’m at right now.”

Johnson said he’s keep in contact with the Texans, talking with the club at least once every other week. He also made it clear he hasn’t requested a trade and isn’t concerned with his contract. For a Texan who could one day be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it’s more about the franchise’s failings in the past and uncertain future than anything else.

“I’m just taking some time, thinking about some things,” Johnson said. “You know, when I make my decision I’ll make my decision and go from there.”

I understand how he feels. He shouldn't be playing to the media however.

Wouldn't keep me from signing him, but his contract would, especially with Bowe's already on the books.

[DTLB58]

shit ... aren't we paying more than that for Bowe?

Cap hits over the next 4 :doh!:

$12M
13
14
14

[Ragged Robin]

He's still a beast but no way in hell this happens unless they let him go.. in which case Chiefs still wouldn't be able to win a bidding war.

[DTLB58]

Hey Andre. Come to the 49ers on a 1 year, 5 million contract and I guarantee you a ring. Then you can sign anywhere and go for the bucks but you will always have that RING!

Andre Johnson
Michael Crabtree
Stevie Johnson
Anquan Boldin.

Yep. that works for me. The rotating 3 wide receiver set from hell.

Donkies had better overall passing game than that (When you include QB) and they didn't win the SB. Nothing is guaranteed. And the Niners play against the team that bitch slapped the Donkies, twice a year and probably three.

[mcaj22]

I would swap Flowers for Johnson

fills a need for them and fills a need for us. Inflated contract for inflated contract. Too bad the NFL in real life doesn't really do stuff like that.

[Reerun_KC]

I would swap Flowers for Johnson

fills a need for them and fills a need for us. Inflated contract for inflated contract. Too bad the NFL in real life doesn't really do stuff like that.
Flowers has no value. Not that Johnson's is higher. But a broken down slow ass flowers has zero trade value.

[mcaj22]

Flowers has no value. Not that Johnson's is higher. But a broken down slow ass flowers has zero trade value.

Yea I get they ruined his value by tipping their hand at drafting another CB in the 3rd. NOW he has no value

they should have moved him before/during the draft.

[MahiMike]

So he wants to go to Denver?

[ForeverChiefs58]

Andre Johnson, Texans face salary cap hurdle for trade


Now that Andre Johnson is questioning his future in Houston, fans around the league are wondering if their team might strike up trade talks with the Texans.


After much spirited discussion factoring in talent, age, injury history, demonstrated production and salary, the Around The League crew has tentatively placed Johnson's trade value at a second-round draft pick.

A seven-time Pro Bowl wide receiver himself, Johnson is at the same age as future Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez when the Falcons acquired the tight end for a second-round pick in 2009. Atlanta never regretted that trade.

Although there are Texans fans who believe the franchise icon deserves to be set free to join a contender, we remain skeptical that the team's brass will be motivated enough to pull the trigger unless Johnson turns himself into a nuisance of Eagles-era Terrell Owens proportions.

If the Texans were inclined to field offers for the NFL's second-most productive wide receiver over the past two seasons, salary cap repercussions still present a formidable hurdle.


A Johnson trade would leave $11.96 million in dead money against the Texans' 2014 cap, per NFL Media's Albert Breer. Perhaps just as prohibitive, a prospective suitor would need the space to absorb Johnson's monstrous contract.

The receiver-needy Browns are one of the few teams capable of meeting that qualification, but that would hardly satisfy Johnson's desire to join an instant contender.

It's going to be quite challenging to find a match that suits the Texans' need for fair compensation, Johnson's wishes and the third party's cap situation.

For those reasons, we believe Johnson will be catching passes in new coach Bill O'Brien's offense come September.

[Simplicity]

Chad Johnson >

[Kaepernick]

Donkies had better overall passing game than that (When you include QB) and they didn't win the SB. Nothing is guaranteed. And the Niners play against the team that bitch slapped the Donkies, twice a year and probably three.

The Broncos are one dimensional. The 49ers have a top 5 defense (top 3?) and a power running game. They have a terrible passing attack. That has just been fixed without Andre Johnson. With Andre Johnson, it just wouldn't be fair. Just hand over the trophy and call it a season. No joke.

No way the 49ers could ever afford him. He would have to Prime Time and play cheap for a ring like Deion did in 1994. But if he did, it would be tough for anyone to beat the 49ers this year. Obviously nothing is guaranteed.

Anyway, it is not going to happen. It was a joke.

[MotherfuckerJones]

We're too scared to take risks like this

[MotherfuckerJones]

The Broncos are one dimensional. The 49ers have a top 5 defense (top 3?) and a power running game. They have a terrible passing attack. That has just been fixed without Andre Johnson. With Andre Johnson, it just wouldn't be fair. Just hand over the trophy and call it a season. No joke.

No way the 49ers could ever afford him. He would have to Prime Time and play cheap for a ring like Deion did in 1994. But if he did, it would be tough for anyone to beat the 49ers this year. Obviously nothing is guaranteed.

Anyway, it is not going to happen. It was a joke.

Lol ya don't want the Seahawks

[TripleThreat]

Don't tease me with such a thought such as this.

[Sure-Oz]

He can be the Chiefs version of James Shields?!! That contract is killer

[58-4ever]

yes, give our first next year and something else.


I nominate this for the most ridiculous post of the year. Maybe 5 years ago... JFC:shake:

[Chiefaholic]

There are going to be far more cheaper options that will be released at WR that won't handicap us financially.... wait for that. Can't pay two WR's 10+ million.

Especially considering the one we currently have under contract doesn't play up to his contract status. And I agree given the number of quality rookie WR's, there should be a few cuts we have the option to bring in.

[TribalElder]

We don't want to lose compensatory picks ROFL

[Rausch]

We're too scared to take risks like this

I've had this dude on my fantasy league the last 4 years.

Pretty sure he averages like 4 games a season with injury and he's ALWAYS banged up...

[OldSchool]

The Broncos are one dimensional. The 49ers have a top 5 defense (top 3?) and a power running game. They have a terrible passing attack. That has just been fixed without Andre Johnson. With Andre Johnson, it just wouldn't be fair. Just hand over the trophy and call it a season. No joke.

No way the 49ers could ever afford him. He would have to Prime Time and play cheap for a ring like Deion did in 1994. But if he did, it would be tough for anyone to beat the 49ers this year. Obviously nothing is guaranteed.

Anyway, it is not going to happen. It was a joke.

Haven't fixed the passing game much at all. People keep blaming the WRs for last year but that was not the case. The WRs were getting open, Kaepernick just wasn't capable of finding them. He's a one read guy with virtually no anticipation in the passing game, if his first read isn't open he almost always just looks to run the ball.

[Eleazar]

He's worth a first, if he's available. We probably don't have the ability to fit him into our meager cap space, if you subscribe to the idea that the cap is a real thing.

[OldSchool]

He's worth a first, if he's available. We probably don't have the ability to fit him into our meager cap space, if you subscribe to the idea that the cap is a real thing.

Not worth a first at his age; maybe 5 years ago, but not now. If we were going to trade a 1st for someone, I'd rather try to find a younger option.

[bowener]

Just as a fan of football, I want the Lions to trade Suh for Andre Johnson and some other pick (I don't really give a fuck). I want to see Megatron and AJ play together, and I want to see a DL comprised of Clowney, Suh, and Watt.

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO at people suggesting a 1st round pick.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'd be good with it, but he does seem hurt quite a bit.

He's Megatron "Lite" when he's healthy

[Tribal Warfare]

Just as a fan of football, I want the Lions to trade Suh for Andre Johnson and some other pick (I don't really give a fuck). I want to see Megatron and AJ play together, and I want to see a DL comprised of Clowney, Suh, and Watt.

You,masochistic bastard.

[SeeingRed]

in

[TEX]

LMAO at people suggesting a 1st round pick.

Exactly. Or even a 2nd for that matter. People point to the Gonzo trade as a litmus for compensation. Gonzo never missed games, AJ does, and that would have to be factored in. Id part with a 4th but nothing more than that. Id also entertain the idea of working out some sort of a trade involving Flowers. Contrary to what some believe here, Flowers does have some value, especially to a CB -starved team like Houston who has Romeo Crennel as its DC. Bringing in guys that know a system makes things easier, especially when its to the unit that will be asked to carry the team. They signed Kendrick Lewis when they had other Safety options available...

[TEX]

The Broncos are one dimensional. The 49ers have a top 5 defense (top 3?) and a power running game. They have a terrible passing attack. That has just been fixed without Andre Johnson. With Andre Johnson, it just wouldn't be fair. Just hand over the trophy and call it a season. No joke.

No way the 49ers could ever afford him. He would have to Prime Time and play cheap for a ring like Deion did in 1994. But if he did, it would be tough for anyone to beat the 49ers this year. Obviously nothing is guaranteed.

Anyway, it is not going to happen. It was a joke.

You checked out the Dox free agent signings? They might not be one dimensional anymore.

[DaKCMan AP]

AJ is/was boss, but not sure he's a great fit here. He's old (32), has an injury history, and isn't what I'd call a separation WR. Sure, he has some long receptions where he gets behind the defense but he's more of a big-body possession WR who can go up and get the ball. A more-gifted DBowe. AS seems to prefer throwing to WRs who get more separation.

[Kiimo]

Exactly. Or even a 2nd for that matter. People point to the Gonzo trade as a litmus for compensation. Gonzo never missed games, AJ does, and that would have to be factored in. Id part with a 4th but nothing more than that. Id also entertain the idea of working out some sort of a trade involving Flowers. Contrary to what some believe here, Flowers does have some value, especially to a CB -starved team like Houston who has Romeo Crennel as its DC. Bringing in guys that know a system makes things easier, especially when its to the unit that will be asked to carry the team. They signed Kendrick Lewis when they had other Safety options available...


Exactly. Everyone knows that Andre wants out, Houston won't get higher than a 3rd for him and a conditional 4th is probably more accurate.

[CaliforniaChief]

Pat Kirwan suggests Kansas City is a viable destination for Andre Johnson and could theoretically be had for Donnie Avery and a 3rd.

All speculation of course, but here's the article:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/24562480/a-primer-on-if-the-texans-are-to-trade-andre-johnson

[DeezNutz]

Pat Kirwan suggests Kansas City is a viable destination for Andre Johnson and could theoretically be had for Donnie Avery and a 3rd.

All speculation of course, but here's the article:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/24562480/a-primer-on-if-the-texans-are-to-trade-andre-johnson

Good-bye and good luck, Donnie!

[Kiimo]

"Would he be willing to restructure his contract? None of the three teams mentioned for consideration have the kind of salary-cap space to take on Johnson's contract. Keep in mind every team in the league has to get their rookies signed, which will take its toll on remaining cap space. As of now the Patriots have $7.7 million, Carolina has $5.7 million and the Chiefs have $4.4 million. A trade for Johnson would be an immediate $11 million cap hit and only 10 teams in the NFL could incur that hit without an adjustment. Of those 11 teams, I don't believe Johnson wants to go to any of those teams or that they would have little interest in him. If Johnson really wants to move on he has to restructure and strongly consider a pay cut as well. Johnson has made more than $30 million in the past four years and has been a high-priced player for all 11 years of his career. A willingness to do a cap friendly deal that averages $7million to $8 million a year but has a first-year cap number closer to $4 million-$5 million could put him on a real playoff contender."

[CaliforniaChief]

Good-bye and good luck, Donnie!

No shit.

And considering we already likely have a 3rd round comp. pick coming, it's a no-brainer. But yeah, all speculation.

[The Franchise]

Pat Kirwan suggests Kansas City is a viable destination for Andre Johnson and could theoretically be had for Donnie Avery and a 3rd.

All speculation of course, but here's the article:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/24562480/a-primer-on-if-the-texans-are-to-trade-andre-johnson

Only if they'll take Daniel as well.

[CaliforniaChief]

Only if they'll take Daniel as well.

You greedy bastard.

[TEX]

Pat Kirwan suggests Kansas City is a viable destination for Andre Johnson and could theoretically be had for Donnie Avery and a 3rd.

All speculation of course, but here's the article:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/24562480/a-primer-on-if-the-texans-are-to-trade-andre-johnson

The Houston AM radio guys were all over it today saying KC would be where AJ would make the most impact team-wise and personally. Said he would be most appreciated in the KC market over anyplace else. Would make KC a fringe contender. Said Houston would likely do it for a CB and a draft pick. They were speculating but Flowers name was being tossed around. They didn't know how his contract was structured though.

Said Carolina was 2nd...

[The Franchise]

The Houston AM radio guys were all over it today saying KC would be where AJ would make the most impact team-wise and personally. Said he would be most appreciated in the KC market over anyplace else. Would make KC a fringe contender. Said Houston would likely do it for a CB and a draft pick. They were speculating but Flowers name was being tossed around. They didn't know how his contract was structured though.

Said Carolina was 2nd...

If Flowers was included...I'm not sure what the parameters of the trade would be.

[Kiimo]

Donnie and a 3rd or Flowers and a 4th provided he restructures.

As a fantasy owner of AJ I am justified and qualified to say "ownz bonz" and I refuse to consider anybody else's position.

[Big Poppa Payne]

We don't have cap room for this, we'll have to pay him in hj's and bj's.

Or do like Denver does and pay him cash under the table.

[TEX]

If Flowers was included...I'm not sure what the parameters of the trade would be.

The guys were just speculating because the Texans are CB thin and Flowers knows Crennel's system. Also he is a vet into his 2nd contract and they know there's no way KC would give up young talent. Also said it could be tricky depending on cap hit. They were talking like Flowers + a 3rd or 4th.

Also said they might consider a WR as part of trade cuz with AJ gone, Hopkins will be the #1 target and will need help.

Then they said maybe no player at all and just a draft pick cuz its not a bad thing if HOU picks top 5 in draft next year cuz the QB class is good...:hmmm:

They were all over the map with the compensation part but were all in agreement that KC would work out great for both parties.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Avery and a 3rd for Johnson? Is there really anyone here who wouldn't do that in a heartbeat? Who would help us more NEXT year? Moncrief or Johnson?

[Sassy Squatch]

I'd do flowers and a pick. With Crennel there its possible.

[RippedmyFlesh]

The guys were just speculating because the Texans are CB thin and Flowers knows Crennel's system. Also he is a vet into his 2nd contract and they know there's no way KC would give up young talent. Also said it could be tricky depending on cap hit. They were talking like Flowers + a 3rd or 4th.

Also said they might consider a WR as part of trade cuz with AJ gone, Hopkins will be the #1 target and will need help.

Then they said maybe no player at all and just a draft pick cuz its not a bad thing if HOU picks top 5 in draft next year cuz the QB class is good...

That is something you and I as fans think about. Teams never think in those terms because unlike us their jobs are at stake and they want results now.

[htismaqe]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607993204043942938&pid=15.1

[RippedmyFlesh]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607993204043942938&pid=15.1

Preach little man!!!

Love your sig saw Elf when they used to open for deep purple. Dio was one of my favorite singers of all time . RIP Ronnie I still rock your tunes. I live in Syracuse and he lived for a while just south of here so he played here a lot.

[The Franchise]

I know he'd probably be here a year or two at most.....but damn this offense would be good with Johnson and Bowe as the top WRs.

[RippedmyFlesh]

I know he'd probably be here a year or two at most.....but damn this offense would be good with Johnson and Bowe as the top WRs.

These dreams come on when i close my eyes.............

[TambaBerry]

I know he'd probably be here a year or two at most.....but damn this offense would be good with Johnson and Bowe as the top WRs.

Yes please

[DeezNutz]

I know he'd probably be here a year or two at most.....but damn this offense would be good with Johnson and Bowe as the top WRs.

Alex Smith is 30.

We don't have the luxury of patience.

[TEX]

That is something you and I as fans think about. Teams never think in those terms because unlike us their jobs are at stake and they want results now.

I agree for the most part. The deal is the Texans have a new HC and staff and will get a pass next season. All they have to do is win 3 and they improve over last year. They got Clowney this year but did not get that franchise QB. (Tom Savage ain't it). So top 5 might be "acceptable" under the circumstances in order to get that QB.

Then they said something that really pissed me off when they said that any deal with New England would almost certainly include Ryan Mallet. O'brien REALLY likes him and wanted to do a draft day deal, but NE wanted too much. Now, when they inquire about AJ, it will have to involve Ryan Mallet.

[Mr. Laz]

Alex Smith is 30.

We don't have the luxury of patience.apparently Dorsey and Reid disagree

This offseason has been run like there is no rush at all.



We made the playoffs last year, we're good.

[DeezNutz]

apparently Dorsey and Reid disagree

This offseason has been run like there is no rush at all.



We made the playoffs last year, we're good.

Pretty much. I don't get it at all. :shake:

[RippedmyFlesh]

I agree for the most part. The deal is the Texans have a new HC and staff and will get a pass next season. All they have to do is win 3 and they improve over last year. They got Clowney this year but did not get that franchise QB. (Tom Savage ain't it). So top 5 might be "acceptable" under the circumstances in order to get that QB.

Then they said something that really pissed me off when they said that any deal with New England would almost certainly include Ryan Mallet. O'brien REALLY likes him and wanted to do a draft day deal, but NE wanted too much. Now, when they inquire about AJ, it will have to involve Ryan Mallet.

If I am NE I would jump at it. I think AJ had more to do with schaubs good numbers for a couple of years than the other way around. Brady to AJ would be lethal.

[mcaj22]

I'd give them the 3rd, Avery, Flowers, Daniel, Bray fuck it send the whole fucking gift basket of turds down to them for AJ. Throw in Joe Mays too they can have him back

[milkman]

I'd give them the 3rd, Avery, Flowers, Daniel, Bray **** it send the whole ****ing gift basket of turds down to them for AJ. Throw in Joe Mays too they can have him back

Sorry, if we traded Flowers for Johnson, there's no way in hell a pick any higher than a 4th should be included.

And, with Johnson having 2, 3 years left of elite production, if that, a 4th might be too much, especially considering the team building strategy of this franchise at this point in time.

[DeezNutz]

Sorry, if we traded Flowers for Johnson, there's no way in hell a pick any higher than a 4th should be included.

And, with Johnson having 2, 3 years left of elite production, if that, a 4th might be too much, especially considering the team building strategy of this franchise at this point in time.

Not if they extend Smith.

[milkman]

Not if they extend Smith.

I have come to grips with the reality that Smith is just a stop gap to keep the team out of the toilet in order to keep the fan base in the seats at Arrowhead.

Even if Smith does continue to blossom, this team has far too many holes that they haven't even acknowledged, much less begun to address, to be more than a playoff team that gets bounced.

[TEX]

Sorry, if we traded Flowers for Johnson, there's no way in hell a pick any higher than a 4th should be included.

And, with Johnson having 2, 3 years left of elite production, if that, a 4th might be too much, especially considering the team building strategy of this franchise at this point in time.

I agree. A 4th plus Flowers would be my limit.

[Mr. Laz]

I have come to grips with the reality that Smith is just a stop gap to keep the team out of the toilet in order to keep the fan base in the seats at Arrowhead.

Even if Smith does continue to blossom, this team has far too many holes that they haven't even acknowledged, much less begun to address, to be more than a playoff team that gets bounced.
It sure as hell seems like it.

last year's and this year's offseason seem contradictory

The most likely reason for the different offseason philosophies is that Hunt/Reid/Dorsey decided that they needed to stop the bleeding first and then started the normal process of building the team.

The why they needed the boost is unknown.

A boost would calm the fans and probably help bring in free agents. A Boost would also increase the confidence of the existing players on the team.

I guess i understand the concept of boost and then build but it's still frustrating as hell. It means we have no real intent on winning this year or next, maybe not even the year after that.

:banghead:

[milkman]

It sure as hell seems like it.

last year's and this year's offseason seem contradictory

The most likely reason for the different offseason philosophies is that Hunt/Reid/Dorsey decided that they needed to stop the bleeding first and then started the normal process of building the team.

The why they needed the boost is unknown.

A boost would calm the fans and probably help bring in free agents. A Boost would also increase the confidence of the existing players on the team.

I guess i understand the concept of boost and then build but it's still frustrating as hell. It means we have no real intent on winning this year or next, maybe not even the year after that.

:banghead:

Yep.

This approach is a 3 year project.

[SAUTO]

Just as a fan of football, I want the Lions to trade Suh for Andre Johnson and some other pick (I don't really give a fuck). I want to see Megatron and AJ play together, and I want to see a DL comprised of Clowney, Suh, and Watt.

Great fucking idea. Really.



That would be awseome
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[Ragged Robin]

Even if Smith does continue to blossom, this team has far too many holes that they haven't even acknowledged, much less begun to address, to be more than a playoff team that gets bounced.

this x1000000000000

[Sassy Squatch]

Meltdown will be funny when it doesn't happen.

[Kiimo]

Meltdown will be funny when it doesn't happen.

Uh not really, nobody on here really expects it to happen it would just be awesome if it did.

[Simplicity]

So is this actually a possibility or are we just fapping at a dream?

[Kiimo]

So is this actually a possibility or are we just fapping at a dream?

It hasn't really gotten traction yet one way or another.

[htismaqe]

Meltdown will be EPIC when he goes to Denver.

FYP.

[salame]

So is this actually a possibility or are we just fapping at a dream?

That should be the Chiefs slogan this season.


"FAPPING AT A DREAM

[AustinChief]

So if we give them Avery we need to give up a 3rd as well? So I'm assuming if we don't make them take Avery we could get Johnson from them for a 4th?

:D

[htismaqe]

We should send them Tyler Bray and a bag of hot dog buns.

[SAUTO]

We should send them Tyler Bray and a bag of hot dog buns.

They don't have a qb. Bray mcdaniels and Avery.
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[TEX]

Meltdown will be funny when it doesn't happen.

Denver is currently over the cap and still needs to sign rookies. IF he ends up there, Elway definitely has Roger Goodell / Michael Sam pics...

[DeezNutz]

We should send them Tyler Bray and a bag of hot dog buns.

Typical True Fan, giving up our QBOTF.

[htismaqe]

Typical True Fan, giving up our QBOTF.

That's Chase Danielz.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

What
The
Fuck
Guys?

[Chiefshrink]

Awesome talent but he is a potato chip. Touch him he breaks. We give him significant $$ only to watch him from the sideline:shake:

[-King-]

I would be all over that Donnie Avery + a 3rd deal. Think it would need to be a 2nd though.

[Dayze]

That's Chase Danielz.

I believe it's "Daniels"

[DeezNutz]

That's Chase Danielz.

LMAO.

[J Diddy]

Awesome talent but he is a potato chip. Touch him he breaks. We give him significant $$ only to watch him from the sideline:shake:

Not true. We can watch him from the television also.

[Deberg_1990]

It sure as hell seems like it.

last year's and this year's offseason seem contradictory

The most likely reason for the different offseason philosophies is that Hunt/Reid/Dorsey decided that they needed to stop the bleeding first and then started the normal process of building the team.

The why they needed the boost is unknown.

A boost would calm the fans and probably help bring in free agents. A Boost would also increase the confidence of the existing players on the team.

I guess i understand the concept of boost and then build but it's still frustrating as hell. It means we have no real intent on winning this year or next, maybe not even the year after that.

:banghead:


from 2007 to 2012 they were 29-67.

They definitely made a conscious decision to stop the bleeding. They had to.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

A lot of great points being made in here. I think what people fail to see by this approach or give kudos to is the possibility that Reid/Dorsey know Smith is not the answer and is indeed a stop gap. The possibility gives me hope they know what they're doing.

[TEX]

from 2007 to 2012 they were 29-67.

They definitely made a conscious decision to stop the bleeding. They had to.

Yep. For all the slow folks, like Chiefszilla & Co., they need to say it instead of letting everyone figure it out based on their actions. Even then some would argue...LMAO

[TEX]

Awesome talent but he is a potato chip. Touch him he breaks. We give him significant $$ only to watch him from the sideline:shake:

Only partly true but the thesis of your statement is false if you're trying to say thst he's fragile . AJ is no "potato chip." If you have ever seen him play, he is tough as nails and about as non-fragile as it gets and will often invite contact. Dude is a BAD ASS! I'd bet he and Steve Smith are the toughest WR's in the league. Having said that, you're right in that he misses games because of nagging injuries he gets from practice. Hamstring is the most common one he suffers from. He's pulled his quads a few times, had turf toe, as well. He very rarely misses games due to injuries sustained from his aggressive style of play.

[InChiefsHeaven]

from 2007 to 2012 they were 29-67.

They definitely made a conscious decision to stop the bleeding. They had to.

Not just the losing, remember what an epic bad season 2012 was. Fans revolting against them, flying banners and blacking out Arrowhead, fucking murder suicide and 2 wins while breaking records of futility. They were definitely in Save the Chiefs mode...

[DTLB58]

Just as a fan of football, I want the Lions to trade Suh for Andre Johnson and some other pick (I don't really give a ****). I want to see Megatron and AJ play together, and I want to see a DL comprised of Clowney, Suh, and Watt.


Sounds fun. But you have to remain balanced on your roster.
The Texans didn't draft any WR's this year. Beyond AJ and Hopkins from last years draft you look at the roster and say who?
If they traded AJ they gotta get a WR. They did draft the TE from Iowa this year and still have Graham from last year who put up average TE #'s.
I suppose it depends how quickly they want to be competitive or just take time to build it their way.

[TEX]

Sounds fun. But you have to remain balanced on your roster.
The Texans didn't draft any WR's this year. Beyond AJ and Hopkins from last years draft you look at the roster and say who?
If they traded AJ they gotta get a WR. They did draft the TE from Iowa this year and still have Graham from last year who put up average TE #'s.
I suppose it depends how quickly they want to be competitive or just take time to build it their way.

Bingo! And I said as much earlier. The new staff gets a pass next season and doesnt have to do much to show improvement over last. They're "fine," under the circumstances with picking in the top 10 of draft to get the franchise QB they didnt get this year. Next year's QB class is a good one. Draft picks, rather than players, are the premium in a trade with them.

[DTLB58]

@ProFootballTalk: Based on his contract, Texans are likely to keep Andre Johnson for at least one more year http://t.co/QmRWLC5nAI

[-King-]

@AlbertBreer Andre Johnson told Texans he wants a trade, four teams have inquired. Next big date is 7/25, when vets report in Houston.

[Discuss Thrower]

Cap room.

[Mr. Laz]

If Dorsey thought we needed a WR badly enough to trade for Johnson he would have done more to sign a FA and/or Draft one.

not gonna happen imo

[In58men]

We're not a team that's trying to win. He'll be a Raider or Bronco.

[Eleazar]

Johnson would be a great add for a team hoping to make a run in the next 2ish years. But if his cap number is really $10 million for this year, I'm not sure how it could happen for us.

[Kiimo]

I am saddened to agree. Who needs wide receivers when we have...uh

[BigMeatballDave]

If Dorsey thought we needed a WR badly enough to trade for Johnson he would have done more to sign a FA and/or Draft one.

not gonna happen imoYep.

I'd rather use the cap space on Houston.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If Dorsey thought we needed a WR badly enough to trade for Johnson he would have done more to sign a FA and/or Draft one.

not gonna happen imo

This.

If he's dealt, I'd say he ends up in New England, Carolina or Philly.

(all that said without knowing if they have the cap space)

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

We'll give them McGloin, a mid round pick and this box of Garbage Pail Kids cards that I found in the attic.

Houston gets a decent back up and a pick
Schaub gets his old buddy back to throw to.

Win-Win.

[Titty Meat]

If Dorsey thought we needed a WR badly enough to trade for Johnson he would have done more to sign a FA and/or Draft one.

not gonna happen imo

He went after Saunders and Jackson

[Mr. Laz]

He went after Saunders and Jacksonnot hard enough


when it came to the draft he didn't seem overly concerned about getting a WR


Donte Moncrief was taken by the colts 3 picks after us in the 3rd round

[Titty Meat]

not hard enough


when it came to the draft he didn't seem overly concerned about gettilng a WR


Donte Moncrief was taken by the colts 3 picks after us in the 3rd round

They didn't have enough cap room for either player.

It's possible they didn't like Moncrief.

[JakeLV]

We'll give them McGloin, a mid round pick and this box of Garbage Pail Kids cards that I found in the attic.

Houston gets a decent back up and a pick
Schaub gets his old buddy back to throw to.

Win-Win.

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-11-1713_44_13.gif

Looks like a real winner.

[Mr. Laz]

They didn't have enough cap room for either player.

It's possible they didn't like Moncrief.
but they have enough cap room for Andre Johnson?


They only liked the 4 WRs that went before us in the 1st round of the draft?

[O.city]

but they have enough cap room for Andre Johnson?


They only liked the 4 WRs that went before us in the 1st round of the draft?

After cutting Flowers, probably do now.

[Mr. Laz]

After cutting Flowers, probably do now.
then they should have cut Flowers a long time ago and gotten the guy they originally wanted

[TEX]

Today 610 AM in Houston reported that 5 teams are rumored to have contacted the Texans about a trade. In no particular order those teams are:

New England
Cleveland
Carolina
Baltimore
Philadelphia

[OnTheWarpath15]

This.

If he's dealt, I'd say he ends up in New England, Carolina or Philly.

(all that said without knowing if they have the cap space)

Today 610 AM in Houston reported that 5 teams are rumored to have contacted the Texans about a trade. In no particular order those teams are:

New England
Cleveland
Carolina
Baltimore
Philadelphia


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[SAUTO]

We got a real miss Cleo here fellas.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

We got a real miss Cleo here fellas.
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LMAO

[jonzie04]

Fuckin new England

[Halfcan]

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-11-1713_44_13.gif

Looks like a real winner.

ROFL that would be awesome!