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The Franchise
05-16-2014, 09:41 AM
They've yet to release the top 10.

11. Jamaal Charles, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (Unranked)

Charles may have ended up with a higher yards per attempt mark in 2012, but we were more impressed with his running in 2013 as evidenced by such a high placed finish. Of course with Andy Reid in town it wasn’t just his rushing that wowed us as Charles was a more potent (and reliable) weapon in the receiving game, and it was that which pushed him so far up this list along with an incredibly strong (five green graded games on the bounce) finish to the regular season.

Best Performance: Week 15, KC @ OAK, +4.9

Key Stat: Averaged 1.75 yards per route run, the most of any feature back.

21. Justin Houston, OLB, Kansas City Chiefs (Unranked)

Houston would finish the year our top-ranked 3-4 outside linebacker, with the only thing keeping him from going higher in this list are the five games he missed at the end of the season. Before that (and when he returned for the playoffs) he was phenomenal, grading negatively just twice (and no worse than a -0.4) and being the kind of all-around playmaker that teams crave from a 3-4 outside linebacker.

Best Performance: Week 11, KC @ DEN, +9.4

Key Stat: Would finish with the fifth-best Pass Rushing Productivity and Run Stop Percentage scores of all 3-4 outside linebackers.

30. Dontari Poe, DT, Kansas City Chiefs (Unranked)

One of (if not the) most durable defensive tackles in the league, Poe proved to be some kind of athlete to manage the workload he did while grading in the green in 11 of 16 games he featured in. Particularly strong against the run (where his 30 defensive stops were 3rd most of all nose tackles) this every down terror showed no signs of slowing down as the year went on, registering a pressure in all but two games with eight games of three or more. Described as a workout warrior before entering the league, there aren’t any tagging him for his combine numbers instead of his performance now.

Best Performance: Week 5, KC @ TEN, +4.6

Key Stat: His 1,004 regular season snaps were the most of any defensive tackle and he was rested in Week 17.

37. Eric Berry, S, Kansas City Chiefs (Unranked)

It’s not easy for a safety to go at No. 5 overall and justify the pick, but Berry is a man who has made that happen. His 2013 season wasn’t perfect but it was a highlight reel of what it takes to be a complete safety in the NFL. A rare athlete capable to play linebacker in dime packages, match up man-on-man with tight ends, and perform more traditional safety roles (whether in the box or not). Berry put forth a tremendous season that would earn him the highest grade of any strong safety in the regular season.

Best Performance: Week 12, SD @ KC, +3.6

Key Stat: It’s true that Berry led all defensive backs with 17 combined sacks, hits and hurries.

57. Tamba Hali, OLB, Kansas City Chiefs (Unranked)

Another double digit sack season for Hali who would log 970 regular season snaps in a season with his customary heavy workload. As ever his pass rushing was the key to his success as he led his position in quarterback disruptions during the regular season before adding another seven in a big postseason showing. He may have been upstaged by his partner in crime, but Hali nonetheless was incredibly productive on his way to finishing sixth overall during our regular season rankings.

Best Performance: Week 4, NYG @ KC, +4.3

Key Stat: 77 quarterback disruptions were the most of any 3-4 outside linebacker.

72. Derrick Johnson, LB, Kansas City Chiefs (67th)

Death, taxes and yet another excellent year from Derrick Johnson. In this age that we live in those are some certainties you can believe in. Johnson was particularly strong in coverage where he would earn the highest grade of all inside linebackers thanks in part to his two picks, three pass breakups and 16 defensive stops in that regard. Throw in some decent work in the run game and a useful 23 quarterback disruptions and you’ve got a nice little season.

Best Performance: Week 1, KC @ KAX, +5.0

Key Stat: His 27.7 Pass Rushing Productivity score was the highest of all inside linebackers.

Dayze
05-16-2014, 09:43 AM
where's our QB?

AndChiefs
05-16-2014, 09:43 AM
where's our QB?

Obviously #1. Top 10 hasn't been released yet.

Dayze
05-16-2014, 09:46 AM
ahhh. yes. good point.

The Franchise
05-16-2014, 10:00 AM
10. Marshawn Lynch, RB, Seattle Seahawks (40th)
9. Andrew Whitworth, OL, Cincinnati Bengals (Unranked)
8. LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles (Unranked)
7. Evan Mathis, OG, Philadelphia Eagles (6th)

ThaVirus
05-16-2014, 10:01 AM
These are always fun. PFF takes a huge hit for not even having Jamaal in the top 100 last season but whatever.

NFL Network has started the Top 100 as well so it'll be interesting to see how the two lists compare.

kepp
05-16-2014, 10:06 AM
10. Marshawn Lynch, RB, Seattle Seahawks (40th)
9. Andrew Whitworth, OL, Cincinnati Bengals (Unranked)
8. LeSean McCoy, RB, Philadelphia Eagles (Unranked)
7. Evan Mathis, OG, Philadelphia Eagles (6th)

Lynch / McCoy > Charles ??

The Franchise
05-16-2014, 10:08 AM
6. Richard Sherman, CB, Seattle Seahawks (5th)

Discuss Thrower
05-16-2014, 10:08 AM
9. Andrew Whitworth, OL, Cincinnati Bengals (Unranked)


Sacc vindicated???

Deberg_1990
05-16-2014, 10:10 AM
#1. Manziel
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Dayze
05-16-2014, 10:13 AM
#1. Manziel
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LMAO
it wouldn't surprise me in the least

ptlyon
05-16-2014, 10:14 AM
#1. Manziel
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Not a chance. He's a Brown. If he were drafted by Dallas, most certainly.

LoneWolf
05-16-2014, 10:17 AM
When do their rankings of soccer players come out?

ptlyon
05-16-2014, 10:21 AM
When do their rankings of soccer players come out?

Soccer's not a sport

SPATCH
05-16-2014, 10:21 AM
Charles, Berry, and Hali didn't even make the list last season? OK.

Discuss Thrower
05-16-2014, 10:30 AM
KC tied with San Francisco with number of top performers at six according to their methodology... Seattle tops with 8 players.

QBs: Manning, Rivers, Wilson, Brees, Brady...

Rain Man
05-16-2014, 10:30 AM
How did they give up 45 points in a freaking playoff game against the Colts? HOW? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!

-King-
05-16-2014, 11:13 AM
Lynch / McCoy > Charles ??

Charles >>>>> Lynch

McCoy = Charles
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thabear04
05-16-2014, 11:30 AM
Charles, Berry, and Hali didn't even make the list last season? OK.

Yeah and when Peyton had surgery on his neck he made the I'm like WTF he didn't even play that year.

ThaVirus
05-16-2014, 11:36 AM
I've had that argument with my roommate probably once a month lately.. Personally, I think ol' Jaymal is better but I'm a Chiefs fan, and he thinks the opposite because he's an Eagles fan.

Trying to look at the stats objectively, McCoy ran for significantly more yards and, while he had more carries, he did run for .1 more YPC than Jamaal. He also averaged 134 yards from scrimmage per game to Jamaal's 132.

On the flip side, Jamaal had more receptions, receiving yards, rushing TDs, and receiving TDs.

ThaVirus
05-16-2014, 11:38 AM
I'm not sure how Marshawn graded out better than Jamaal, but I'll at least field the argument that McCoy is equal to JC.

My issue with LeSean is that he's a pretty one-dimensional runner. He has insane lateral quickness and agility, but if he's not making you miss he's not doing anything. I honestly don't think I've ever seen him break or run through a tackle.

The Franchise
05-16-2014, 11:39 AM
5. Lavonte David, LB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (82nd)
4. Gerald McCoy, DT, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (20th)
3. Peyton Manning, QB, Denver Broncos (7th)

LoneWolf
05-16-2014, 11:43 AM
5. Lavonte David, LB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (82nd)
4. Gerald McCoy, DT, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (20th)
3. Peyton Manning, QB, Denver Broncos (7th)

Proof that PFF is a hack website started by a soccer geek from the UK.

ThaVirus
05-16-2014, 11:50 AM
Those Buccaneers ratings are too legit, in my opinion.

He doesn't get the recognition he deserves but I'd take Gerald McCoy over any interior lineman in the league.

hometeam
05-16-2014, 11:58 AM
How did they give up 45 points in a freaking playoff game against the Colts? HOW? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/automation/images/9475667_448x252.jpg

ChiefsCountry
05-16-2014, 12:04 PM
How did they give up 45 points in a freaking playoff game against the Colts? HOW? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!

http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/andrewlucksmile.gif

OldSchool
05-16-2014, 12:32 PM
Charles >>>>> Lynch

McCoy = Charles
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Lynch and Charles are two completely different runners.

Lynch is an exceptional power runner whereas Charles is a speed guy.

Lynch, while being a power runner, still has enough speed to turn the corner and outrun people.

His stat that really stands out is the missed tackles (whether from juking or just powering through would-be tacklers).

He forced 86 missed tackles last season. Or 1 missed tackle per 3.92 touches according to PFF.

-King-
05-16-2014, 12:57 PM
I've had that argument with my roommate probably once a month lately.. Personally, I think ol' Jaymal is better but I'm a Chiefs fan, and he thinks the opposite because he's an Eagles fan.

Trying to look at the stats objectively, McCoy ran for significantly more yards and, while he had more carries, he did run for .1 more YPC than Jamaal. He also averaged 134 yards from scrimmage per game to Jamaal's 132.

On the flip side, Jamaal had more receptions, receiving yards, rushing TDs, and receiving TDs.

Charles, McCoy, and Peterson are my top 3 running backs. McCoy is one of the most exciting players in the league. And since he jukes the shit out of people, he doesn't get a chance to break many tackles. Jamaal is like that but a bit better.
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-King-
05-16-2014, 12:58 PM
Lynch and Charles are two completely different runners.

Lynch is an exceptional power runner whereas Charles is a speed guy.

Lynch, while being a power runner, still has enough speed to turn the corner and outrun people.

His stat that really stands out is the missed tackles (whether from juking or just powering through would-be tacklers).

He forced 86 missed tackles last season. Or 1 missed tackle per 3.92 touches according to PFF.

Charles is still better.
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Steron
05-16-2014, 12:59 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/assets/images/imported/KC/photos/0_NEW_991x340/2013/01-january/Sutton_inside.jpgHow did they give up 45 points in a freaking playoff game against the Colts? HOW? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!

Pasta Little Brioni
05-16-2014, 01:02 PM
Anyone that would take Lynch over Charles is a complete dumbfuck

Pasta Little Brioni
05-16-2014, 01:02 PM
The top of this list is garbage

The Franchise
05-16-2014, 02:34 PM
2. Robert Quinn
1. J.J. Watt

the Talking Can
05-16-2014, 02:39 PM
berry sucks in one dimension

The Franchise
05-16-2014, 02:59 PM
This has got to be fixed.

Key Stat: His 1,004 regular season snaps were the most of any defensive tackle and he was rested in Week 17.

TEX
05-16-2014, 03:22 PM
Charles is still better.
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No doubt. Bet at least 90% of NFL teams would choose Jamaal if given the choice. Bet Seattle would be one of them.

Rams Fan
05-16-2014, 04:51 PM
2. Robert Quinn
1. J.J. Watt

Quinn FTW

Mr. Laz
05-16-2014, 04:54 PM
5 defenders and Sutton still shit the bed

Easy 6
05-16-2014, 05:20 PM
Poe's being worked like a rented mule.

Easy 6
05-16-2014, 05:26 PM
http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/andrewlucksmile.gif

Oh man you suck, that shit eating amish grin deserves neg rep once a day for the next 10 years.

:mad:

Pasta Little Brioni
05-16-2014, 05:35 PM
Oh man you suck, that shit eating amish grin deserves neg rep once a day for the next 10 years.

:mad:

The Pats pushing their shit in took care of that

Easy 6
05-16-2014, 05:43 PM
The Pats pushing their shit in took care of that

Twas a small consolation my friend, a small consolation.

Sorter
05-16-2014, 06:11 PM
Those Buccaneers ratings are too legit, in my opinion.

He doesn't get the recognition he deserves but I'd take Gerald McCoy over any interior lineman in the league.

http://i.imgur.com/232b8.gif

Pasta Little Brioni
05-16-2014, 07:11 PM
Twas a small consolation my friend, a small consolation.

Yep.

ThaVirus
05-16-2014, 07:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/232b8.gif


What's that about?

Saccopoo
05-16-2014, 07:56 PM
How did they give up 45 points in a freaking playoff game against the Colts? HOW? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME!

http://www.chiefsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Dunta-Robinson.jpg