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Boise_Chief
06-20-2014, 08:26 PM
So I'm thinking about smoking an Elk roast tomorrow. Any tips on rubs or hints on smoking wild game. So far I'm thinking about draping it with bacon to help keep it from drying out. Will prob smoke it to 140 but I have no idea on what I want to put into a rub.

Baby Lee
06-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Redskins use all of the elk.

sedated
06-20-2014, 08:46 PM
Im no smoking expert (in this sense at least, lol), but that seems like a super dry type of meat to smoke. Along with the bacon you should probably inject, and wrap in foil after a couple hours. Although having the bacon on it will prevent some of the smoke, so its kind of a catch 22.

Does putting a pan of water in there add enough moisture to make a difference?

Boise_Chief
06-20-2014, 08:54 PM
I will have a water pan on the side the smoke enters (the hot side) I think I might inject as well, that is a good Idea as I'm concerned with drying it out.
I did decide to hedge my bets and pulled out an elk loin also.

lewdog
06-20-2014, 09:13 PM
You fags turned this into the Martha Stewart Lounge.

Asshats.

BigRichard
06-20-2014, 10:24 PM
Redskins use all of the elk.

ROFL

mikey23545
06-21-2014, 12:14 AM
I didn't realize losing a hand of liar's poker at the Elks lodge could have such serious consequences...

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 12:18 AM
Redskins use all of the elk.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/racist1.gif

Just Passin' By
06-21-2014, 12:48 AM
Redskins use all of the elk.

Elk is an offensive name today. They want to be called Cervus elaphus Americans now.

LiveSteam
06-21-2014, 01:00 AM
You pillowbiters turned this into the Martha Stewart Lounge.

Asshats.

Dude/ This story starts at man vs elk.

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 01:22 AM
Dude/ This story starts at man vs elk.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu, we won that one too (usually - see below), does that mean the Elk are going to file? They may not like the name Elk..

http://www.nps.gov/yell/parknews/upload/sm_Elk%20charging%20red%20car%20c%20Edward%20suthoff-2.jpg

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00345/114640098_345503c.jpg

crazycoffey
06-21-2014, 02:26 AM
Im no smoking expert (in this sense at least, lol), but that seems like a super dry type of meat to smoke. Along with the bacon you should probably inject, and wrap in foil after a couple hours. Although having the bacon on it will prevent some of the smoke, so its kind of a catch 22.

Does putting a pan of water in there add enough moisture to make a difference?

Me either, but my experiences = minced garlic helps keep the smoking meat moist, bacon adds flavor.

I've never done elk, but I'm thinking low heat, lots of smoke (apple and cherry wood over the mesquites and hickory) for a few hours (depending on size and cut).

Then wrap it good with aluminum and more garlic, and cook it according to size and heat appropriate to the size of the meat, let cool, still wrapped, for over an hour (be sure to add this time to the cooking time). Then in wrap and thinly slice a few pieces and see how it tastes.

Such a special type of meat, is smoking the best way to prepare it? Guess it depends on other variables. End of the day, I'm interested in how it turns out. My first suggestion is low heat on he smoke and either steam (like I suggested earlier) or flash/sear it with high heat to seal in the moisture/smoke flavor.

The spices involved would have to be suttle if elk is heavy in flavor. Don't want to mix strong game meat with strong spices

tmax63
06-21-2014, 06:48 AM
In my book elk is one of the milder game meats. They eat mostly grass instead of brouse and just like with beef, the better the feed the better the meat. I'm not sure I'd smoke elk but if I did I'd stay subtle and not cover up a good tasting chunk of meat start with.

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 08:56 AM
Dude/ This story starts at man vs elk.

Yeah there isn't much Martha about shooting a 600lb animal carrying it out on your back, cutting it up on the kitchen counter and smoking it while drinking beer.

This thread isn't about the best way to make a frozen caramel machiatto.
Adam Richman maybe not Martha Stewart.

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 09:12 AM
Ok in the off chance any of the local BBQ Meisters come by this morning. Here is the plan:

Basic Rub: Garlic powder, Onion powder, paprika, cayenne, Sea salt,
Basket weave bacon blanket over the top
smoke low heat with water pan till 140 ish Wrap it and let it rest slice thin and profit.

Stop me if you know better.
I'll follow up with pictures tonight.

Dunerdr
06-21-2014, 09:13 AM
I'm so jealous right now

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 09:36 AM
Ok in the off chance any of the local BBQ Meisters come by this morning. Here is the plan:

Basic Rub: Garlic powder, Onion powder, paprika, cayenne, Sea salt,
Basket weave bacon blanket over the top
smoke low heat with water pan till 140 ish Wrap it and let it rest slice thin and profit.

Stop me if you know better.
I'll follow up with pictures tonight.

Go for it. It it doesn't work, go get another Elk.

Gonzo
06-21-2014, 09:43 AM
You should probably ask Bwana. That fucker downs an elk or two every year. I haven't shot one in almost 5.
The last time I tried smoking a deer roast, I was able to keep it fairly moist by using a wet rub every 30-45 mins and injecting hourly.
The bacon might be a good idea...

MOhillbilly
06-21-2014, 09:47 AM
Layer it n bacon!

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 10:02 AM
Go for it. It it doesn't work, go get another Elk.

I'm pretty much every other year on Elk, The Wolves have made it much harder to get one.


Here is the before Pic:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=105658&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1384145210

sedated
06-21-2014, 10:04 AM
flash/sear it with high heat to seal in the moisture/smoke flavor.

myth.

Just Passin' By
06-21-2014, 10:20 AM
I'm pretty much every other year on Elk, The Wolves have made it much harder to get one.

Smoked wolf next year?

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 10:37 AM
I'm pretty much every other year on Elk, The Wolves have made it much harder to get one.


Here is the before Pic:
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=105658&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1384145210

Nice... Can you smoke wolf?

Saccopoo
06-21-2014, 10:38 AM
I wouldn't recommend smoking it.

Rub your stuff on it, then sear it at about 450 for 10/15 minutes to seal the exterior.

Cook at 225 until it reaches your desired temp. (140 would be acceptable.)

I'd add liquid to the roasting pan (red burgundy/pinot noir or a syrah would work well) to keep up the moisture content of the cooking area.

Smoking simply starts out at too low a temp for it to be effective on a low fat content item such as your elk roast. You are most likely going to end up with a lump of half cooked/cured jerky.

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 10:38 AM
Smoked wolf next year?

Sorry, I think I just suffered a from a bout of plagiarism...

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 10:43 AM
I wouldn't recommend smoking it.

Rub your stuff on it, then sear it at about 450 for 10/15 minutes to seal the exterior.

Cook at 225 until it reaches your desired temp. (140 would be acceptable.)

I'd add liquid to the roasting pan (red burgundy/pinot noir or a shirah would work well) to keep up the moisture content of the cooking area.

Smoking simply starts out at too low a temp for it to be effective on a low fat content item such as your elk roast. You are most likely going to end up with a lump of half cooked/cured jerky.

My neighbor does pretty-much that, but he puts the whole pan, with all it's contents, in a huge turkey bag.

Seems to make some sense. Not sitting in the liquid, but inside the bag is like a steam bath. Then, at the end, he puts it on an open rotisserie spit to brown it to get a bit of a bark (for appearance)...

Baby Lee
06-21-2014, 10:57 AM
Adam Richman maybe not Martha Stewart.

Fat chicks HAAAATTTEEEE Adam Richman right now. Evidently the term 'thinspiration' is akin to the holocaust. Didn't help that he tweet that a critic was a see you next Tuesday who should kill herself.

mikeyis4dcats.
06-21-2014, 12:28 PM
I will have a water pan on the side the smoke enters (the hot side) I think I might inject as well, that is a good Idea as I'm concerned with drying it out.
I did decide to hedge my bets and pulled out an elk loin also.

a water pan in a smoker isn't really to intoduce moisture, it's used as a heat sink to help moderate temperature.

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 12:43 PM
a water pan in a smoker isn't really to intoduce moisture, it's used as a heat sink to help moderate temperature.

Very good point. But every little but helps. I've got a pan going over the coals in my side-smoker, on a hot-and-humid day here, so the 16-18 hours I plan on putting on the briskets I have one, might result in them being as soft as what you often get in Texas.. We'll see...


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crazycoffey
06-21-2014, 01:51 PM
myth.

Same as a woman's orgasm......

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 02:01 PM
Nice... Can you smoke wolf?

We typically practice the 3 S's
Shoot Shovel and Shut up

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 02:09 PM
We typically practice the 3 S's
Shoot Shovel and Shut up

:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 02:16 PM
Pre and post bacon

Boise_Chief
06-21-2014, 02:30 PM
Smoke is rollin' Check back in about 6 Beers

crazycoffey
06-21-2014, 02:58 PM
Smoke is rollin' Check back in about 6 Beers

I have that exact grill/smoker too! I love the combo, perfect size smoker and gas grill for all I cook, and I can cook a lot on it.

GloryDayz
06-21-2014, 03:03 PM
Smoke is rollin' Check back in about 6 Beers

Pool time??? Or do you just clean it and the kids splash all the water onto the smoker?

Bwana
06-22-2014, 06:47 AM
Red has some good tips on cooking game.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF4EE32869227CCE5

ChiefGator
06-23-2014, 02:30 AM
Red has some good tips on cooking game.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF4EE32869227CCE5

Will be interesting to see how this elk ended up. I think the key was likely a good marinade to help break it down. I would probably have used a red wine marinade, possibly followed up with a mild brine.

THis is a good episode from the playlist above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DKpHteE7KY