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KC native
10-17-2014, 11:52 AM
The CDC is completely full of shit. I don't believe anything they say. They estimated over 60 million people got H1N1 after they dropped testing because the pandemic wasn't happening. Do you even know a single person that got it?

says the poster that completely ignores the scientific information that runs contrary to his kooky beliefs about vaccinations.

DaFace
10-17-2014, 12:11 PM
says the poster that completely ignores the scientific information that runs contrary to his kooky beliefs about vaccinations.

I read an interesting article a while back that was examining whether you could hypothetically prosecute parents who don't vaccinate their kids if they end up starting a mini-outbreak of a disease and it ends up killing someone else's kid. In summary, it's not as far-fetched as you might think.

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BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 12:11 PM
What are you talking about, BD?

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 12:16 PM
I read an interesting article a while back that was examining whether you could hypothetically prosecute parents who don't vaccinate their kids if they end up starting a mini-outbreak of a disease and it ends up killing someone else's kid. In summary, it's not as far-fetched as you might think.

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That's the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Considering the vast majority of adults are not on schedule this has to be a joke. Do you even think about what you post before you do?

You guys just need something to be scared about in here and someone to point your finger at that isn't doing what you think they should. Give me a break.

ThaVirus
10-17-2014, 12:17 PM
I read an interesting article a while back that was examining whether you could hypothetically prosecute parents who don't vaccinate their kids if they end up starting a mini-outbreak of a disease and it ends up killing someone else's kid. In summary, it's not as far-fetched as you might think.



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Damn.

That sounds like a pretty clear violation of human rights.

DaFace
10-17-2014, 12:17 PM
That's the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Considering the vast majority of adults are not on schedule this has to be a joke. Do you even think about what you post before you do?

Given your views on these things, I'll take that as a compliment.

Donger
10-17-2014, 12:18 PM
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

And you don't think the 60 million estimate is valid? If not, why not?

Do you also dispute the number of hospitalizations and deaths?

BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 12:43 PM
And you don't think the 60 million estimate is valid? If not, why not?

Do you also dispute the number of hospitalizations and deaths?

Dude, you were here during that when they were releasing the numbers and nobody had it so they quit testing for it. When asked why they did that they said because they already knew it was a pandemic which made no sense at all. Over 60 million means 1 in 5 Americans had it. At that time on ChiefsPlanet the only person that claimed to have it was Dane but they never tested him. Are you kidding me right now? You lived through this? Did one in five people you know claim to have swine flu because I didn't know anyone who tested positive for it until Aries who just said it now.

KC native
10-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Dude, you were here during that when they were releasing the numbers and nobody had it so they quit testing for it. When asked why they did that they said because they already knew it was a pandemic which made no sense at all. Over 60 million means 1 in 5 Americans had it. At that time on ChiefsPlanet the only person that claimed to have it was Dane but they never tested him. Are you kidding me right now? You lived through this? Did one in five people you know claim to have swine flu because I didn't know anyone who tested positive for it until Aries who just said it now.

Remember everyone, empirical evidence is trumped by anecdotal evidence everytime.

KC native
10-17-2014, 12:48 PM
Given your views on these things, I'll take that as a compliment.

LMAO

KC native
10-17-2014, 12:54 PM
I read an interesting article a while back that was examining whether you could hypothetically prosecute parents who don't vaccinate their kids if they end up starting a mini-outbreak of a disease and it ends up killing someone else's kid. In summary, it's not as far-fetched as you might think.

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I don't think it's far fetched.

My wife caught chicken pox as an adult because Fort Worth's school district used to allow parents to get religious waivers for vaccinations super easy. Well, after a mini-outbreak of chicken pox in a couple schools the waivers became tougher to get.

My wife was substitute teaching at the time and that's how we learned about how easy the waivers were to obtain. After some substantial bitching about the lost wages and the mini-outbreak, the waiver policy changed within a school year (apparently we weren't the only ones bitching).

Shit pissed me off that assholes were sending their unvaccinated kids to school because they're fucking morons and didn't believe in vaccines or believed shit like BigDaddy.

Donger
10-17-2014, 12:55 PM
Dude, you were here during that when they were releasing the numbers and nobody had it so they quit testing for it. When asked why they did that they said because they already knew it was a pandemic which made no sense at all. Over 60 million means 1 in 5 Americans had it. At that time on ChiefsPlanet the only person that claimed to have it was Dane but they never tested him. Are you kidding me right now? You lived through this? Did one in five people you know claim to have swine flu because I didn't know anyone who tested positive for it until Aries who just said it now.

I remember that it was a pretty nasty flu season that year, yes. That 60 million figure is just an estimate, because not everyone who likely contracted it went to the doctor/hospital to get it verified.

It's commonly accepted that between 5 and 20% of the population gets influenza EVERY year, so no, I don't find the figure that outrageous.

Now, why do you think CDC would lie about the numbers?

BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 01:07 PM
I remember that it was a pretty nasty flu season that year, yes. That 60 million figure is just an estimate, because not everyone who likely contracted it went to the doctor/hospital to get it verified.

It's commonly accepted that between 5 and 20% of the population gets influenza EVERY year, so no, I don't find the figure that outrageous.

Now, why do you think CDC would lie about the numbers?

People got sick but it wasn't swine flu. Tests were coming back negative so they quit testing. If you can't remember that, I can't help you. Hell, I even posted the video of the media jacking them up about the pandemic and the numbers being so low. Those were the CDC's own numbers that were dramatically changed after the fact.
As far as the commonly accepted percentage, I have no idea. I don't get vaccinated and I have had it twice in 52 years. Maybe I am just lucky. My wife has had it once. My kid has never had it. How many times have you?

Donger
10-17-2014, 01:14 PM
People got sick but it wasn't swine flu. Tests were coming back negative so they quit testing. If you can't remember that, I can't help you. Hell, I even posted the video of the media jacking them up about the pandemic and the numbers being so low. Those were the CDC's own numbers that were dramatically changed after the fact.
As far as the commonly accepted percentage, I have no idea. I don't get vaccinated and I have had it twice in 52 years. Maybe I am just lucky. My wife has had it once. My kid has never had it. How many times have you?

2009 H1N1 Individual Case Counts

Why did CDC stop reporting confirmed and probable 2009 H1N1 flu cases?

Individual case counts were kept early during the 2009 H1N1 outbreak when the 2009 H1N1 virus first emerged. As the outbreak expanded and became more widespread, individual case counts become increasingly impractical and not representative of the true extent of the outbreak. This is because only a small proportion of persons with respiratory illness are actually tested and confirmed for influenza (including 2009 H1N1) so the true benefit of keeping track of these numbers is questionable. In addition, the extensive spread of 2009 H1N1 flu within the United States made it extremely resource-intensive for states to count individual cases. On July 24, 2009, CDC discontinued reporting of individual cases of 2009 H1N1, but continued to track hospitalizations and deaths.

Donger
10-17-2014, 01:15 PM
As far as the commonly accepted percentage, I have no idea. I don't get vaccinated and I have had it twice in 52 years. Maybe I am just lucky. My wife has had it once. My kid has never had it. How many times have you?

I don't get the flu vaccine and never have. I've gotten it probably three times in my life, but can only assume, as I've never been tested positive.

Pitt Gorilla
10-17-2014, 01:18 PM
Dude, you were here during that when they were releasing the numbers and nobody had it so they quit testing for it. When asked why they did that they said because they already knew it was a pandemic which made no sense at all. Over 60 million means 1 in 5 Americans had it. At that time on ChiefsPlanet the only person that claimed to have it was Dane but they never tested him. Are you kidding me right now? You lived through this? Did one in five people you know claim to have swine flu because I didn't know anyone who tested positive for it until Aries who just said it now.We had 3 confirmed cases of H1N1 in our little family.

BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 01:31 PM
2009 H1N1 Individual Case Counts

Why did CDC stop reporting confirmed and probable 2009 H1N1 flu cases?

Individual case counts were kept early during the 2009 H1N1 outbreak when the 2009 H1N1 virus first emerged. As the outbreak expanded and became more widespread, individual case counts become increasingly impractical and not representative of the true extent of the outbreak. This is because only a small proportion of persons with respiratory illness are actually tested and confirmed for influenza (including 2009 H1N1) so the true benefit of keeping track of these numbers is questionable. In addition, the extensive spread of 2009 H1N1 flu within the United States made it extremely resource-intensive for states to count individual cases. On July 24, 2009, CDC discontinued reporting of individual cases of 2009 H1N1, but continued to track hospitalizations and deaths.

They quit testing for it so of course they quit reporting on confirmed cases. It was because they were coming back negative. I can't go back and remember that for you dude.

It's not like there haven't been endless CDC scandals. At the end of the day I don't care. I am not like these scaredy-cats with major control issues. If people are scared and like vaccines knock yourself out, just don't tell me what to do.

KC native
10-17-2014, 01:37 PM
We had 3 confirmed cases of H1N1 in our little family.

Your anecdotes mean less than BigDaddy's anecdotes because he didn't know of anyone that got H1N1.

KC native
10-17-2014, 01:38 PM
It's not like there haven't been endless CDC scandals. At the end of the day I don't care. I am not like these scaredy-cats with major control issues. If people are scared and like vaccines knock yourself out, just don't tell me what to do.

Unless the subject is gay adoption, then you're all about control.

hypocritical idiot is hypocritical.

Chiefspants
10-17-2014, 01:48 PM
I would just like to chime in to say that my ex-girlfriend did, in fact, catch the swine flu.

Donger
10-17-2014, 01:55 PM
They quit testing for it so of course they quit reporting on confirmed cases. It was because they were coming back negative. I can't go back and remember that for you dude.

It's not like there haven't been endless CDC scandals. At the end of the day I don't care. I am not like these scaredy-cats with major control issues. If people are scared and like vaccines knock yourself out, just don't tell me what to do.

Do you dispute that over 250,000 American people were admitted to a hospital with H1N1 during that outbreak?

BIG_DADDY
10-17-2014, 02:03 PM
Do you dispute that over 250,000 American people were admitted to a hospital with H1N1 during that outbreak?

No, I don't have the resources or time to research it. My only points were that IMO the CDC has no credibility because of the endless scandals. My other point was that swine flu was never the pandemic it was made out to be. Once that was being confirmed they quit testing. That is all.

DaFace
10-18-2014, 08:19 AM
Interesting context:

http://i.imgur.com/JhajSXX.png

Mizzou_8541
10-18-2014, 11:26 AM
The CDC is completely full of shit. I don't believe anything they say. They estimated over 60 million people got H1N1 after they dropped testing because the pandemic wasn't happening. Do you even know a single person that got it?

Yeah, I got it. It was like a bad case of the flu. Four-ish days later, I was good to go.

DaFace
10-19-2014, 09:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3VudSVe.jpg

J Diddy
10-19-2014, 10:25 AM
No, I don't have the resources or time to research it. My only points were that IMO the CDC has no credibility because of the endless scandals. My other point was that swine flu was never the pandemic it was made out to be. Once that was being confirmed they quit testing. That is all.

You have the internet. There is google.

J Diddy
10-19-2014, 10:26 AM
I would just like to chime in to say that my ex-girlfriend did, in fact, catch the swine flu.

I'd look into Hog Farmer's whereabouts when she "got" it

BIG_DADDY
10-19-2014, 10:33 AM
I don't think it's far fetched.

My wife caught chicken pox as an adult because Fort Worth's school district used to allow parents to get religious waivers for vaccinations super easy. Well, after a mini-outbreak of chicken pox in a couple schools the waivers became tougher to get.

My wife was substitute teaching at the time and that's how we learned about how easy the waivers were to obtain. After some substantial bitching about the lost wages and the mini-outbreak, the waiver policy changed within a school year (apparently we weren't the only ones bitching).

Shit pissed me off that assholes were sending their unvaccinated kids to school because they're ****ing morons and didn't believe in vaccines or believed shit like BigDaddy.

Sounds like you should have got her vaccinated.

BossChief
10-19-2014, 10:41 AM
How many people actually died of h1n1 worldwide and in the US specifically?

How about Ebola?

bevischief
10-19-2014, 10:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3VudSVe.jpg

ROFL

Donger
10-21-2014, 08:24 AM
US cautiously optimistic after no new Ebola in 5 days

http://news.yahoo.com/us-cautiously-optimistic-no-ebola-5-days-172110466.html

Washington (AFP) - With no new Ebola cases in five days, US authorities were cautious but hopeful that the virus has been contained in the United States after a flawed response revealed shortcomings in the system.

The fiancee of a Liberian man who died of Ebola earlier this month in Dallas, Texas was among nearly 50 people who emerged from three weeks of quarantine without any signs of illness from exposure to the virus that has killed more than 4,500 in West Africa since the beginning of this year.

About 100 more people, most of them health care workers, are being tracked in Texas after coming in contact with the first patient diagnosed in the United States in late September.

Still, officials said it was reassuring that no new infections had emerged in recent days.

"We are breathing a little bit easier, but we are still holding our breath," said Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings.

Those who are no longer in danger include a group of health care workers and community members who may have had contact with the Liberian man, Thomas Eric Duncan, between September 24 when he began showing symptoms and September 28 when he was isolated in a Dallas hospital.

"This is a crucial milestone for the city of Dallas and for concerned persons across the United States," said Mark Rupp, an infectious disease specialist at Nebraska Medical Center, which has treated two US Ebola patients after they were infected in Liberia this year.

"I hope this reinforces the message that the public is safe and that Ebola is not very infectious in its early stages."

- Two nurses -

Two nurses in the intensive care unit at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas were infected while caring for Duncan, who died October 8.

Nina Pham's infection was announced October 12, and her colleague Amber Vinson's was three days later.

Ebola is spread though close contact with vomit, blood, diarrhea or other bodily fluids. Most people get sick within eight to 10 days of exposure, and health care workers are particularly at risk.

Word of the nurses' infections sowed panic across the United States, leading to a rash of suspected cases that turned out to be nothing more than common illnesses.

"In the United States, two people have gotten infected with Ebola. Two. Both of them were taking care of a desperately ill patient in a risky situation," said Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, during a forum at Washington's Newseum.

"You have to distinguish the two nurses... from the risk to the general public who aren't anywhere near an Ebola patient, much less a very sick Ebola patient."

Pham is in fair condition at a specialized government hospital near the US capital, and Fauci declined to speculate on whether she would make a full recovery.

"She still is a bit knocked out," Fauci said.

"When you get an infection as serious as Ebola it is very, very draining on you."

Vinson's family said in a statement they "remain intensely prayerful and optimistic about Amber's condition and of the treatment she is currently receiving" at Emory University Healthcare, in Atlanta Georgia, but gave no details on the state of her health.

- Mistakes made -

The Dallas hospital which initially sent Duncan away when he sought care for pain and a fever, apologized Sunday for its management of the case.

"As an institution, we made mistakes in handling this very difficult challenge," Texas Health CEO Barclay Berdan said in a statement.

Jesse Goodman, a doctor and public health expert at Georgetown University, said the United States was learning from the initially flawed response.

"I do think events indicate how important it is to probably be over cautious rather than over confident," Goodman said.

To that end, US health authorities on Monday issued stricter guidelines for protecting health care workers against Ebola.

The new instructions "provide an increased margin of safety," said the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention chief Tom Frieden.

Prior to working with an Ebola patient, medical personnel must be trained and able to demonstrate competency in putting on and taking off personal protective equipment, said Frieden.

The gear should allow no skin exposure and should include gloves, a waterproof gown or coveralls, a respirator, a face shield and a disposable hood.

Meanwhile, fears loomed that the epidemic could intensify in hardest-hit Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, as the death toll continued to climb amid funding shortfalls.

Fauci said the epidemic was far from ending in West Africa, and said all nations need to pour resources into ending the spread of the disease there.

"Right now I don't think we can predict when this epidemic is going to be over. When you look at it, it is still escalating rather than declining."

BIG_DADDY
10-21-2014, 10:28 AM
Fearbola is what happens when a bunch chicken shit panty wetting control freaks get access to the internet. Hope the vaccine comes out soon so they can feel safe again.

Iowanian
10-21-2014, 12:05 PM
OJ Simpson has killed more people in the United States than Ebola has so far.

Beef Supreme
10-21-2014, 12:31 PM
OJ Simpson has killed more people in the United States than Ebola has so far.

And they can't contain him either.

DaFace
10-21-2014, 12:53 PM
Looks like Laz is getting his wish (partially):

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_26769643/homeland-security-orders-new-screening-ebola

Homeland Security orders new screening for Ebola
Alicia A. Caldwell Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Everyone coming to the United States from the three West African countries at the center of the Ebola outbreak will now be screened for the deadly disease at one of five airports, the Homeland Security Department said Tuesday.

Earlier this month, Customs and Border Protection officers at New York's Kennedy, Newark Liberty, Washington's Dulles, Chicago's O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta airports started screening people arriving from West Africa. The screening includes using no-touch thermometers to determine if travelers have a temperature, one symptom of a possible Ebola infection. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is also working with DHS on the screening.

There are no direct flights to the United States from West Africa. About 94 percent of the roughly 150 people traveling daily from West Africa to the U.S. arrive at the one of the five airports. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Tuesday that now everyone traveling from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea will have to land in the U.S. at one of the five airports and then fly on to their destination.

(more at the link)

loochy
10-21-2014, 12:56 PM
so where do they put these people that have "fevers"?

Mr. Laz
10-24-2014, 11:16 AM
NYC doctor tests positive for virus

By Elaine Ly and Faith Karimi CNN
POSTED: 04:22 AM MDT Oct 24, 2014 UPDATED: 10:27 AM MDT Oct 24, 2014

(CNN) -
A doctor in New York City tests positive for Ebola. The European Union pledges more funds to fight the deadly virus. And a military response team begins training.

A Doctors Without Borders physician who recently returned to New York from Guinea has tested positive for the Ebola virus, becoming the first diagnosed case in the city.

The doctor, identified as Craig Spencer, 33, returned to New York on October 17 after treating Ebola patients in Guinea, and he reportedly developed a fever Thursday morning.

U.S. DEVELOPMENTS

Nina Pham declared free of Ebola

Dallas nurse Nina Pham is free of the Ebola virus, the National Institutes of Health said Friday morning, eight days after she was transferred to an NIH facility in Maryland for treatment. The NIH said it would discuss details about her discharge later Friday.

Pham is one of two nurses who contracted Ebola after treating Liberia citizen Thomas Eric Duncan at a Dallas hospital. Duncan died on October 8.

U.S. considers mandatory quarantine

The United States is considering a mandatory quarantine for all returning health care workers from West Africa, an Obama administration official said Friday. Officials do not believe there is a risk of transmission from someone not exhibiting Ebola-like symptoms, but they want to reassure the public, the administration official said.

Vinson to be transferred from isolation

The other Dallas nurse, Amber Vinson, who is getting treatment for Ebola at Atlanta's Emory University Hospital, is steadily regaining her strength, and her spirits are high, her family said. Doctors can no longer detect the virus in her body, and she'll be transferred from isolation, her mother said.

Bentley the dog doing well

Samples from nurse Pham's dog Bentley tested negative for the virus. More specimens will be collected before the end of a 21-day quarantine.

Go team begins training

A 30-member U.S. military team that could be called on to respond to new cases of Ebola in the United States has started specialized training at Fort Sam Houston in Texas. The weeklong training includes infection control and how to use personal protective gear.

DaFace
10-24-2014, 02:10 PM
U.S. considers mandatory quarantine

The United States is considering a mandatory quarantine for all returning health care workers from West Africa, an Obama administration official said Friday. Officials do not believe there is a risk of transmission from someone not exhibiting Ebola-like symptoms, but they want to reassure the public, the administration official said.

Even if not mandatory, you'd think that people like the doctor coming back in NYC would make at least an attempt to keep a bit isolated after returning. My guess is it'll all be fine since he wasn't showing any symptoms at the time, but even I find it a bit disconcerting to think of the guy riding the subway like he did.

vailpass
10-24-2014, 02:16 PM
I'm told I got ebola from a blow job. I did experience heightened heart rate followed by bodily fluid evacuation but as yet am feeling fine otherwise. Will keep you updated...

kepp
10-24-2014, 02:19 PM
Even if not mandatory, you'd think that people like the doctor coming back in NYC would make at least an attempt to keep a bit isolated after returning. My guess is it'll all be fine since he wasn't showing any symptoms at the time, but even I find it a bit disconcerting to think of the guy riding the subway like he did.

He absolutely should have been smarter, but doctors make the worst patients is what I've always heard.

And this administration has been three steps behind common sense since this whole thing began. It makes zero sense to not quarantine those who have knowingly had direct contact with ebola patients.

Sorce
10-24-2014, 02:22 PM
To be fair, Aaron Hernandez has killed more people in the United States than ebola at this point.

Fish
10-24-2014, 03:38 PM
U.S. considers mandatory quarantine

The United States is considering a mandatory quarantine for all returning health care workers from West Africa, an Obama administration official said Friday. [B]Officials do not believe there is a risk of transmission from someone not exhibiting Ebola-like symptoms, but they want to reassure the public, the administration official said.

No doubt....

DaFace
10-26-2014, 08:01 PM
Interesting infographic for additional context.

(May be easier to read if you just click the link.)

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-content/photos/000/850/custom/85042_2048x8150-cb1414181642.png

http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-content/photos/000/850/custom/85042_2048x8150-cb1414181642.png

thabear04
10-27-2014, 07:18 PM
Travis posted this picture saying

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10731702_793522664040295_565227106_n.jpg

Out here dodging Ebola like....

TimeForWasp
10-27-2014, 07:31 PM
I'm told I got ebola from a blow job. I did experience heightened heart rate followed by bodily fluid evacuation but as yet am feeling fine otherwise. Will keep you updated...

Your new name should now be Ebolapass.

Rain Man
10-27-2014, 07:39 PM
Interesting infographic for additional context.




What the heck is this plague of Justinian thing, and why wasn't I told about it?

How many people were on earth in the 6th century? It seems like this would have been a threat to the very existence of humanity.

tredadda
10-27-2014, 07:50 PM
What the heck is this plague of Justinian thing, and why wasn't I told about it?

How many people were on earth in the 6th century? It seems like this would have been a threat to the very existence of humanity.

It decimated the Byzantine Empire and contributed to the rise of everyone's favorite religion. When they were still in their infancy and were starting to conquer the ME and many parts of the Byzantine Empire, the Byzantines were so decimated by this plague that they struggled to stop it (which they didn't obviously). Justinian survived it though, but it messed him up good.

GloucesterChief
10-27-2014, 09:28 PM
It decimated the Byzantine Empire and contributed to the rise of everyone's favorite religion. When they were still in their infancy and were starting to conquer the ME and many parts of the Byzantine Empire, the Byzantines were so decimated by this plague that they struggled to stop it (which they didn't obviously). Justinian survived it though, but it messed him up good.

Actually, stopped the westward expansion of the Eastern Roman Empire. The Byzantines were well on their way to conquering Italy and were looking to press further.

As for the numbers the East had a much bigger population and was way more urbanized then the West during the dark ages. Greece, Eastern Turkey, the Levant, and Egypt were all parts of the Eastern Roman Empire.

Donger
11-12-2014, 04:21 PM
New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in the U.S.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/11/10/new-york-doctor-cleared-of-ebola-which-means-there-are-no-ebola-cases-in-the-u-s/

The doctor who contracted Ebola in West Africa before returning to New York City has been declared free of the virus, hospital officials announced Monday. This news means that 41 days after the first Ebola diagnosis in the United States, there are no known cases of the virus in the country.

Bugeater
11-12-2014, 04:23 PM
Now what do we panic about?

Donger
11-12-2014, 04:26 PM
Now what do we panic about?

New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in the U.S.

That's just what they want us to think.

loochy
11-12-2014, 05:24 PM
New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in the U.S.

That's just what they want us to think.

It's all part of Obama's plan to destroy the USA

Buehler445
11-12-2014, 05:35 PM
Now what do we panic about?

There is a serious dearth of good titties.

Titty Meat
11-12-2014, 05:36 PM
Now what do we panic about?

HPV

Pitt Gorilla
11-13-2014, 10:59 AM
You panty waists still worried about catching the ebola?