The Houston Texans...

[FloridaMan88]

JFC I feel bad for them.

It is like watching a repeat of Fat Scott's reign of "Patriots Way" terror that was inflicted upon One Arrowhead Drive.

It is the same "Patriots Way" bullshit all over again… get the "right 53 players" and you can magically win with the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel, Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, etc. as your QB.

"The Patriots Way"= The Ebola virus of the NFL that destroys franchises that don't have Tom Brady as their QB.

Thoughts and prayers to Houston Texans fans.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I feel worse for Falcon fans....well, becase...

[FloridaMan88]

I feel worse for Falcon fans....well, becase...

Because they have Matt Ryan and a GM who has been able to break free from his "Patriots Way" roots.

Although bringing Fat Scott into the mix could change that.

[milkman]

Because they have Matt Ryan and a GM who has been able to break free from his "Patriots Way" roots.

Although bringing Fat Scott into the mix could change that.

Their big free agent signings this offseason.

Jon Asamoah and Tyson Jackson.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Because they have Matt Ryan and a GM who has been able to break free from his "Patriots Way" roots.

Although bringing Fat Scott into the mix could change that.

Yup.

...and scooter will build on the great season they had last year.

[Bewbies]

Their big free agent signings this offseason.

Jon Asamoah and Tyson Jackson.

Nobody here believes me that those two suck, and that was 100% Pioli.

[Easy 6]

Cant believe they targeted Fitzpatrick as their starter, no wonder Andre Johnson was all pissed off.

[mcaj22]

it's amazing how many people are employed thanks to Tom Brady.

a lot of bad coaches/front office puppets owe that man their lives.

[Eleazar]

Uh oh, you talked bad about Kyle Orton. True fans will be here soon to rake you over the coals

[Mennonite]

Cant believe they targeted Fitzpatrick as their starter, no wonder Andre Johnson was all pissed off.

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

[Simply Red]

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

Isn't Keenum the one that looked like Tom Brady against the Chiefs like two or three yrs. ago?

[Eureka]

Isn't Keenum the one that looked like Tom Brady against the Chiefs like two or three yrs. ago?

No, he was just another rookie QB the chiefs played against during their 9-0 run last year.

[Simply Red]

No, he was just another rookie QB the chiefs played against during their 9-0 run last year.

wait I thought he beat us. Hmm - guess I'm mixing him up w/ someone else.

[Eleazar]

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

What were Schaub's numbers over the five or so years before last year?

[Eleazar]

wait I thought he beat us. Hmm - guess I'm mixing him up w/ someone else.

He played decently in a loss but came back to earth in the following weeks iirc

[mcaj22]

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

Bowe?

Croyle, Huard, Thigpen, Cassel, Tyler Palko, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Alex Smith

[TEX]

JFC I feel bad for them.

It is like watching a repeat of Fat Scott's reign of "Patriots Way" terror that was inflicted upon One Arrowhead Drive.

It is the same "Patriots Way" bullshit all over again… get the "right 53 players" and you can magically win with the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel, Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, etc. as your QB.

"The Patriots Way"= The Ebola virus of the NFL that destroys franchises that don't have Tom Brady as their QB.

Thoughts and prayers to Houston Texans fans.

Watching the game with friends last night, all I could think of was THANK GOD the Chiefs MOVED PAST the "Patriot Way" BS. The game went EXACTLY as I thought, complete with many "Crennel WTF IS GOING ON?" looks. All my friends were pissed and said that I had warned them. LMAO. The have no idea what they're in store for. Best bet would be for Bob McNair to BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP after the season and start over.

[Just Passin' By]

You people are talking about a week 1 preseason game as if it meant something.

:shake:

[TEX]

Bowe?

Croyle, Huard, Thigpen, Cassel, Tyler Palko, Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn, Alex Smith

Smith does not belong in that group, but you're spot on with all the others.

[TEX]

You people are talking about a week 1 preseason game as if it meant something.

:shake:

It does when most every individual battle was lost. When your #1's get trashed by their #2's and 3's, there usually is a problem that will carry over into the season. The Texans could not even compete.

[Eleazar]

The Texans probably don't care about having Ryan Fitzpatrick this year, because they will have the number one pick next year

[Just Passin' By]

It does when most every individual battle was lost. When your #1's get trashed by their #2's and 3's, there usually is a problem that will carry over into the season. The Texans could not even compete.

Patriots got thumped by the Redskins
Tennessee beat the Packers
49ers got crushed


It was week 1 of the preseason, FFS.

[TimBone]

Patriots got thumped by the Redskins
Tennessee beat the Packers
49ers got crushed


It was week 1 of the preseason, FFS.
Did you watch the game?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

JFC I feel bad for them.

It is like watching a repeat of Fat Scott's reign of "Patriots Way" terror that was inflicted upon One Arrowhead Drive.

It is the same "Patriots Way" bullshit all over again… get the "right 53 players" and you can magically win with the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Cassel, Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton, etc. as your QB.

"The Patriots Way"= The Ebola virus of the NFL that destroys franchises that don't have Tom Brady as their QB.

Thoughts and prayers to Houston Texans fans.

Yep. O'Brien is the exact same stubborn prick as the rest of the failures.

[Rausch]

The Texans probably don't care about having Ryan Fitzpatrick this year, because they will have the number one pick next year

Next year will be the year of the pass rusher just like this year was the year of the WR.

Oh, and fuck Dorsey...

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

What were Schaub's numbers over the five or so years before last year?

2008 - 3,043 15 TD/10 INT
2009 - 4,770 29/15
2010 - 4,370 24/12
2011 - 2,479 15/6
2012 - 4,008 22/12
2013 - 2,310 10/14

2011 he only started 10 games due to injury
2013 he started 8 games.

[New World Order]

Patriots got thumped by the Redskins
Tennessee beat the Packers
49ers got crushed


It was week 1 of the preseason, FFS.

Tom Brady didn't even play.

Packers/niners starters looked good, ours didn't.

[Mr. Laz]

let it go

[Mennonite]

The Packers didn't play Rodgers, Lacy or Jordy Nelson. Their second stringers still outplayed the Titans starters. Jake Locker played the entire first half and looked awful. Lockers stats: 1/2 - 5 Yards - 0 TD 0 INT 56.2 QB Rating. It was pouring down rain for most of the game and both teams struggled with ball security.

[Baby Lee]

Watching the game with friends last night, all I could think of was THANK GOD the Chiefs MOVED PAST the "Patriot Way" BS. The game went EXACTLY as I thought, complete with many "Crennel WTF IS GOING ON?" looks. All my friends were pissed and said that I had warned them. LMAO. The have no idea what they're in store for. Best bet would be for Bob McNair to BLOW THE WHOLE THING UP after the season and start over.

I think there are schemes and places where Crennel can still run a D, he's still a bit of a Manning assassin. But nothing sends daggers of ice through my heart like;

Watt, Clowney, . . . Crennel. . . !!!

[a pp roach]

White 80

[Mav]

I think the texans trade for mallet or Hoyer before the preseason is over.

[John Dope]

I think the texans trade for mallet or Hoyer before the preseason is over.

Good post. mallet going there makes a ton of sense.

[Mav]

Good post. mallet going there makes a ton of sense.
It was said that O'Brien said where ever he went he wants Hoyer with him. So both of those know his system.

[FloridaMan88]

You people are talking about a week 1 preseason game as if it meant something.

:shake:

Houston looked like the Chiefs did in their first preseason game against Tampa a few years ago (the season Haley got fired).

Even though it was preseason… they looked totally non-competitive which was a preview of how the Chiefs would fare to start the regular season that year.

[Bufkin]

Their big free agent signings this offseason.

Jon Asamoah and Tyson Jackson.
I can understand people shitting on Asamoah, but Jackson? He just turned 28, meaning that the 5 years Atlanta gave him should equal his prime. An elite run stuffer who although is nonexistent as a pass rusher, will open that possibility up for the linebackers. 25 million dollars over 5 years with only 11 million guaranteed isn't "breaking the bank".

[Baby Lee]

In the interest of discussing the preseason without starting another thread, it's hilarious watching _enver getting royally Manninged on PI and QB protection calls tonight on NFLN.

[TEX]

I think the texans trade for mallet or Hoyer before the preseason is over.

This

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

I think the texans trade for mallet or Hoyer before the preseason is over.

Rhett Bomar + Trent Edwards FTW

[RealSNR]

Tyson Jackson's children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren will owe the Pioli family their lives. That man has made a fat worthless fuck nearly $50 million in under 5 years

[SDChiefs]

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

Bowe. Maybe not worse but as bad.

[SDChiefs]

I can understand people shitting on Asamoah, but Jackson? He just turned 28, meaning that the 5 years Atlanta gave him should equal his prime. An elite run stuffer who although is nonexistent as a pass rusher, will open that possibility up for the linebackers. 25 million dollars over 5 years with only 11 million guaranteed isn't "breaking the bank".

Not sure if suurious. Elite should not be used in the same sentence as Tyson Jackson unless that sentence is "Tyson Jackson is one of the elite wastes of money and roster spots in the history of the league. With the likes of Matt Cassel and Jafatass Russell."

[Mav]

Not sure if suurious. Elite should not be used in the same sentence as Tyson Jackson unless that sentence is "Tyson Jackson is one of the elite wastes of money and roster spots in the history of the league. With the likes of Matt Cassel and Jafatass Russell."

Matt Cassel was an undrafted qb who never started a game in college.

He also made not one, but TWO pro bowls with two different teams.

From an undrafted guy who did far more than Tyson Jackson ever did as the third overall pick, that is just ridiculous that you included him.

here.

David Carr,
Joey Harrington,
Ryan Leaf,
Robert Gallery,
Charles Rogers.

Substitute any one of those you want.

[Mav]

Rhett Bomar + Trent Edwards FTW

Both are extremely versed in the scheme.

Kinda like Rich Gannon was when he came to the raiders.

[OldSchool]

it's amazing how many people are employed thanks to Tom Brady.

a lot of bad coaches/front office puppets owe that man their lives.

You mean Bill-a-cheat?

Texans are going to be scary defensively. They'll be a nightmare on offense if they ask Fitzpatrick to throw the ball more than 400 times next season.

[OldSchool]

Good post. mallet going there makes a ton of sense.

Mallet was horrible in his pre-season debut. So much for trade bait and all of Mike Mayock's "starting caliber QB" talk, ROFL.

[Mav]

Mallet was horrible in his pre-season debut. So much for trade bait and all of Mike Mayock's "starting caliber QB" talk, ROFL.

Preseason. We talking about PRESEASON? Not the regular season, PRESEASON?


REALLY?

PRESEASON?ROFL

[OldSchool]

Preseason. We talking about PRESEASON? Not the regular season, PRESEASON?


REALLY?

PRESEASON?ROFL

Exactly. And he was terrible against vanilla defenses.

[Bufkin]

Not sure if suurious. Elite should not be used in the same sentence as Tyson Jackson unless that sentence is "Tyson Jackson is one of the elite wastes of money and roster spots in the history of the league. With the likes of Matt Cassel and Jafatass Russell."
Except that Tyson Jackson absolutely is an elite run stopper. It's his inability to rush the passer that made him expendable. If he would have been drafted in the 4th round, many Chiefs fans would be in agreement. Unfortunately, getting drafted 3rd overall in the worst draft class in NFL history can sometimes cloud judgment on how good he truly is.

[mdchiefsfan]

Has any wide receiver had worse QB's than Johnson?

David Carr, Mat Shaub, Rosencopter, TJ Yates, Case Keenum and now the Amish Rifle.

Dwayne Bowe

[milkman]

Except that Tyson Jackson absolutely is an elite run stopper. It's his inability to rush the passer that made him expendable. If he would have been drafted in the 4th round, many Chiefs fans would be in agreement. Unfortunately, getting drafted 3rd overall in the worst draft class in NFL history can sometimes cloud judgment on how good he truly is.

In today's NFL, an elite run stuffer with almost non-existent pass rush is only slightly more useful than a $20 hooker at a Las Vegas porn convention.

[Coochie liquor]

In today's NFL, an elite run stuffer with almost non-existent pass rush is only slightly more useful than a $20 hooker at a Las Vegas porn convention.

I think you're undervaluing a $20 hooker. Esp in Vegas, where you can lose everything you own. A $20 hooker can be the difference between I lost everything I own, and I lost everything I own, BUT.... I got a blow job!!

[ping2000]

Why are we feeling sorry for other teams exactly? Last time I checked we hadn't won a playoff game in a thousand years or so. Saving my sympathy for us.

[Just Passin' By]

It does when most every individual battle was lost. When your #1's get trashed by their #2's and 3's, there usually is a problem that will carry over into the season. The Texans could not even compete.

Week 2, Texans with a dominant 32-7 win over a team that had won its first game. Will that carry over into the season too, and even out week 1?

[OldSchool]

Their DL is going to be awesome.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Not sure getting rid of Schaub after one bad year among his good years was a great move, unless the plan was to snatch up some one like Mariota or Winston early in next year's draft.

[New World Order]

Not sure getting rid of Schaub after one bad year among his good years was a great move, unless the plan was to snatch up some one like Mariota or Winston early in next year's draft.


Schaub has looked terrible so far.

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Schaub has looked terrible so far.

So far as in the first two preseason games or so far in his career? He did have an INT in the 2nd game on Friday (which Jones should have caught anyway), but he also led the team down the field on a drive than ended in a touchdown. That being said, I think McGloin & Carr have a better chance at winning games for the Raiders.

[TEX]

Week 2, Texans with a dominant 32-7 win over a team that had won its first game. Will that carry over into the season too, and even out week 1?

I doubt it. Did u see the game? It was 16-7 in the 4th so it was a lot closer than the score indicates. (A blocked punt for a TD and several TJ Yates picks later, one being a pick 6, turned the game ugly late) Early on the Falcons played it very vanilla with the players that did play. Ryan did see a good bit of action but Atlanta had been in Houston most of the week for organized practices and got game-like work in, so many players didnt play (Like JJ Watt, Foster, Johnson for Hou) and / or got limited game time. Fitz was Fitz and did extend drives on broken plays (and stupid illegal contact penalties) but should have been picked off several times. This one is exactly the type of game that gives fans false hope. Believe me, it could have easily gone the other way, but the Texans did look better than last week. Hard not to...

On a side note, Kendrick Lewis played well...Clowney looks to be the real deal.

[TEX]

Not sure getting rid of Schaub after one bad year among his good years was a great move, unless the plan was to snatch up some one like Mariota or Winston early in next year's draft.

That's exactly the plan. They love Mariota. Im betting they'll be in the running to get him regardless of a week 2 preseason route of a 4-12 team of a year ago. The Texans are not good.

[Just Passin' By]

I doubt it. Did u see the game? It was 16-7 in the 4th so it was a lot closer than the score indicates. (A blocked punt for a TD and several TJ Yates picks later, one being a pick 6, turned the game ugly late) Early on the Falcons played it very vanilla with the players that did play. Ryan did see a good bit of action but Atlanta had been in Houston most of the week for organized practices and got game-like work in, so many players didnt play (Like JJ Watt, Foster, Johnson for Hou) and / or got limited game time. Fitz was Fitz and did extend drives on broken plays (and stupid illegal contact penalties) but should have been picked off several times. This one is exactly the type of game that gives fans false hope. Believe me, it could have easily gone the other way, but the Texans did look better than last week. Hard not to...

On a side note, Kendrick Lewis played well...Clowney looks to be the real deal.

I saw the game. You created a story in week 1, and now you're minimizing week 2 in order to keep the story alive.

It's preseason. Game 3 is the only one that matters at all, in terms of worrying about your team, and even that one is only minimally useful. These games are about getting the vets a little bit of work and seeing which rookies seem most likely to be able to play in the league.

That's it. Reading the tea leaves about the regular season is a fool's game, as the Bills demonstrated repeatedly in the '90s.

[JimBaker48.8]

Texans' fan here and native Missourian and forever a Chiefs fan (likely no day in my life as a fan will ever match 1/11/70 in NOLA): don't feel sorry for us, we're gonna be OK, maybe we even approach that remarkable turnaround the Chiefs had last year.

[Deberg_1990]

The Texans passed on Bortles and Derek Carr.

ROFL
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[GloucesterChief]

The Texans passed on Bortles and Derek Carr.

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Have to get a QB from the system you know. Of course we know by now that the Patriots way is based on cheating and Brady.