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Direckshun
08-12-2014, 09:28 PM
In particular, 2015's salary cap.

According to Overthecap.com, we are currently slated at $123m, when the projected cap is going to be $140m.

We're almost certainly going to cut Hali, which will net us 9m. We're probably going to cut Sean Smith, which will net us 5.5m. We'll probably cut Chase Daniel (who is projected to be the 9th highest contract on our team in 2015, which is fucking nuts), which will save us 3.5. It's possible the team cuts Fasano as he's costing us about $4m/year, however he wouldn't even save us $2m if we did, so I'm not going to include him in my calculations. Cutting Donnie Avery would net us $3.5m, but it's not remotely clear if we're in a position to do that, seeing how we have no WRs on this team.

We'll almost certainly extend Eric Berry, but seeing how the going rate for an elite safety is about what he's making now, I'm projecting zero cap change on him.

So that leaves us, assuming there's no change on the Alex Smith/Justin Houston front, with $35m in cap space.

That should be enough to sign Alex Smith long term, get Houston inked or franchised, and sign our draft picks, and little else.

Everything frees up in 2016, but in 2015, we're looking at another year of a tight cap due to our signings in 2013.

Mr_Tomahawk
08-12-2014, 09:29 PM
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TLO
08-12-2014, 09:42 PM
How is Jack Shit's contract situation looking? He may be looking for a new contract considering he's now a 2 sport superstar. We need to pony up and pay the man!

chiefzilla1501
08-12-2014, 09:49 PM
The Chiefs can do any of those things and save a buttload of cap space. Because a lot of bad contracts start going off the books the next 2 years, the best way to dodge the cap is to sign players to a decent sized signing bonus then load in a big roster bonus the 2nd or 3rd year of the contract. Basically a basic way of deferring a bonus and doing it in a way where that deferred bonus is practically guaranteed.

Ming the Merciless
08-12-2014, 11:14 PM
That should be enough to sign Alex Smith long term, get Houston inked or franchised, and sign our draft picks, and little else.


So we should expect similar performance in 2015 as 2014 unless say we hit big on one of our picks?

This is shaping up to be a pivotal year.....

I have a bad feeling...don't want to jinx anything but just a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach

Why Not?
08-12-2014, 11:17 PM
How is Jack Shit's contract situation looking? He may be looking for a new contract considering he's now a 2 sport superstar. We need to pony up and pay the man!

But since the Royals traded Jack Shit for Josh Willingham, he may not want to play football in KC

Prison Bitch
08-12-2014, 11:18 PM
Why sign Alex to a long term deal if Fat Andy is such a QB guru? Is he afraid to find or develop another one?

saphojunkie
08-12-2014, 11:29 PM
They'll extend Hali, not cut him.

Hammock Parties
08-12-2014, 11:37 PM
Fuck Alex Smith.

CoMoChief
08-12-2014, 11:51 PM
They'll extend Hali, not cut him.

They didn't draft Dee Ford in the first rd so he can sit on the bench and be a backup. Are you implying that we won't re-sign Houston? Because I really doubt the Chiefs keep all 3.

Chiefs really need to beef up the WR position. Though I'm thinking they should address CB in the first rd, as well as FA. Dorial Green-Beckham would most certainly would be agreat value pick in the 2nd rd and has #1WR potential. He would excel w/ Bowe on the other side for a couple/few season til it's time to part ways w/ Bowe and replace DGB at the #1.

Dante84
08-13-2014, 12:06 AM
Or, DGB could be the next Ray Rice. Or Justin Blackmon. Or both, combined!

Dante84
08-13-2014, 12:07 AM
But seriously, he would be sweet if he can keep his nose clean.

BossChief
08-13-2014, 08:17 AM
You forgot to add Joe Mays to the list of guys that will be probable cuts.

No way we pay that guy over 4 million next year.

Sandy Vagina
08-13-2014, 08:45 AM
In particular, 2015's salary cap.

According to Overthecap.com, we are currently slated at $123m, when the projected cap is going to be $140m.

Everything frees up in 2016, but in 2015, we're looking at another year of a tight cap due to our signings in 2013.

Glad you took the time to do this. Your expectations seem legit. As for the last sentence.. I think locking up the QB, OLB, and draft pick additions will be enough.

If the coaching is what everyone believes and hopes.. the development of current personnel will step into any shoes that have departed.

Shouldn't be any major concerns.. certainly not at this point.

Mays (as stated) and Devito could be cap saving cuts. I'm leaning towards Avery being gone after this season. Think they will trust in a youngster with his similar skills (Albert!).

Rodney Hudson will need a new contract.

Bowe's contract is just disgusting! lol

Mr. Laz
08-13-2014, 10:07 AM
They'll extend Hali, not cut him.

I don't know.


Doesn't seem like something Dorsey would do. He seems to prefer to draft to replace and he already had replaced Hali by drafting Ford. Potentially.

Strongside
08-13-2014, 11:44 AM
Let's talk celery crap.

The Franchise
08-13-2014, 11:47 AM
They'll extend Hali, not cut him.

And fuck our salary cap further into the future? No thanks.

Strongside
08-13-2014, 11:47 AM
I think Hali retires and comes on as Defensive Spread Game Analyst.

jd1020
08-13-2014, 11:49 AM
And **** our salary cap further into the future? No thanks.

Chiefs wont sign Houston, keep Hali, and draft his replacement in round 1 of the 2015 draft.

Lateral movements baby.

Direckshun
08-13-2014, 11:57 AM
You forgot to add Joe Mays to the list of guys that will be probable cuts.

No way we pay that guy over 4 million next year.

Good point.

Plus, JMJ looked really, really good against the Bengals.

Hammock Parties
08-13-2014, 12:03 PM
I think Hali retires and comes on as Defensive Spread Game Analyst.

Hali is going to retire to some shithole and smoke weed until he dies.

Direckshun
08-13-2014, 12:05 PM
Glad you took the time to do this. Your expectations seem legit. As for the last sentence.. I think locking up the QB, OLB, and draft pick additions will be enough.

If the coaching is what everyone believes and hopes.. the development of current personnel will step into any shoes that have departed.

Shouldn't be any major concerns.. certainly not at this point.

Mays (as stated) and Devito could be cap saving cuts. I'm leaning towards Avery being gone after this season. Think they will trust in a youngster with his similar skills (Albert!).

Rodney Hudson will need a new contract.

Bowe's contract is just disgusting! lol

DeVito is too vital to what we do, and we don't have an obvious replacement for him. DeVito (in my estimation) stays.

But, yeah, Mays makes sense.

I'm betting Dorsey inked Donnie Avery in 2013 expecting to cut him in 2015, which is why his contract was structured to make him a very cheap to cut in 2015. That's what Emmanuel Sanders was supposed to be all about. But Dorsey simply never had a plan B after Emmanuel Sanders ****ed him over. So I think we're stuck keeping Avery into 2015.

Hudson's going to walk. The team loves Eric Kush.

Bowe's contract is extremely lousy, yeah. It gets even worse in 2014, but he's not cuttable. He becomes cuttable in 2016, and extremely cuttable in 2017. Should we consider it.

But that's what happens when you have a team bent over a barrel because they can't successfully figure out what the hell to do at the WR position. It's honestly the same position we're in right now with Alex Smith.

Halfcan
08-13-2014, 12:05 PM
Hali is going to retire to some shithole and smoke weed until he dies.

Oakland?

saphojunkie
08-13-2014, 12:08 PM
And **** our salary cap further into the future? No thanks.

No, they'll extend him and convert that salary to bonus, keeping a still productive player (11 sacks last year) while reducing his cap number.

Jeez, if people are going to talk salary cap they could at least try to understand it.

Direckshun
08-13-2014, 12:10 PM
How old will Hali be next year?

The guy loves Kansas City and he loves playing with Justin Houston. It's possible he agrees to a cheap extension.

Then again, Atlanta's probably more than willing to pay Hali carte blanche. They aren't afraid of aging passrushers and he has an obvious connection there now.

milkman
08-13-2014, 12:14 PM
DeVito is too vital to what we do, and we don't have an obvious replacement for him. DeVito (in my estimation) stays.

But, yeah, Mays makes sense.

I'm betting Dorsey inked Donnie Avery in 2013 expecting to cut him in 2015, which is why his contract was structured to make him a very cheap to cut in 2015. That's what Emmanuel Sanders was supposed to be all about. But Dorsey simply never had a plan B after Emmanuel Sanders ****ed him over. So I think we're stuck keeping Avery into 2015.

Hudson's going to walk. The team loves Eric Kush.

Bowe's contract is extremely lousy, yeah. It gets even worse in 2014, but he's not cuttable. He becomes cuttable in 2016, and extremely cuttable in 2017. Should we consider it.

But that's what happens when you have a team bent over a barrel because they can't successfully figure out what the hell to do at the WR position. It's honestly the same position we're in right now with Alex Smith.

DeVito is just a guy.

He's slightly more valuable than Tyson Jackson was.

Direckshun
08-13-2014, 12:22 PM
DeVito is just a guy.

He's slightly more valuable than Tyson Jackson was.

A guy who shuts down the ****ing run better than anybody else on the roster.

He's a good player, and we have no obvious replacements for him. And we've drafted 1 good run stuffer in 15 years.

Edit: More like 3. But my point stands.

Fairplay
08-13-2014, 12:26 PM
Cut Succop that would free up a chunk of cash.

milkman
08-13-2014, 12:27 PM
A guy who shuts down the ****ing run better than anybody else on the roster.

He's a good player, and we have no obvious replacements for him. And we've drafted 1 good run stuffer in 15 years.

Don't fucking care.

In a pass happy league, a one dimensional run stuffer is as useful a can of gas for an electric lawn mower.

Dunerdr
08-13-2014, 04:38 PM
We can't cut Avery because of the wr situation but we can cut Sean smith? Seems legit.

John Dope
08-13-2014, 06:20 PM
DeVito is just a guy.

He's slightly more valuable than Tyson Jackson was.

I'd say he's pretty important, Dumbass!

milkman
08-13-2014, 06:24 PM
I'd say he's pretty important, Dumbass!

Yeah, like a give a rat's ass.

John Dope
08-13-2014, 06:32 PM
Yeah, like a give a rat's ass.

He was the first guy the new regime signed. He was hand picked to play a specific role in this defense. Signing Mike DeVito was a priority for Sutton, Reid and Dorsey. He's done nothing but teach the other players this defense and perform at an above average level on the field. Do you remember Glen Dorsey? Are you fucking kidding me? We can't have a pro bowler at every position.