Alex Smith playing Benny Hill

[Chiefnj2]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/08/24/chiefs-offensive-line-in-focus/

Click above to see Alex Smith doing a great Benny Hill impersonation in the video clips.

[Fish]

Fulton looks god awful in each gif..........

[The Franchise]

Fulton only looks decent when he's getting help.

[Hammock Parties]

God in heaven.

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/KC-OL.png

Zach Fulton has amassed a -9.1 in just over four quarters of play. THAT'S REALLY HARD TO SUCK THAT BAD. Guys go an entire season and don't amass that amount of suck.

ALSO ROFLCOPTER RYAN HARRIS IS OUR SAVIOR

[cmh6476]

so what QB do we want in next year's draft?

[In58men]

so what QB do we want in next year's draft?

Bryce Petty

[Eleazar]

so what QB do we want in next year's draft?

Unfortunately, it looks like we have 5 holes on the offensive line.

[OldSchool]

Here's to OL again in 2015 in the 1st! ROFL

Hell, they might end up drafting 3 offensive linemen.

[Radar Chief]

That does look like it needs the Yakety Sax sound track.

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[KCUnited]

Looking forward to an entire season of Oline vs Alex Smith circular debates overlapped by QB vs Oline in the 1st circular debates that will fire up around early October on into April 2015. Sprinkled in with talk of how we can short change Houston.

Because we are the Chiefs.

[Hammock Parties]

Looking forward to an entire season of Oline vs Alex Smith circular debates

I will fight this with GIFs of perfect protection and Alex fucking up.

[Fish]

Fulton only looks decent when he's getting help.

And by "Getting help", you mean when he leaves his man unblocked and double teams the center's guy?

LMAO

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Vikings-Pass-Rush-vs-Chiefs-3.gif

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

IN.

[Eleazar]

Looking forward to an entire season of Oline vs Alex Smith circular debates...

I don't think you could watch any of those highlights and blame Smith for much or anything. There are free rushers on every down.

[Hammock Parties]

I don't think you could watch any of those highlights and blame Smith for much or anything. There are free rushers on every down.

Like this one?

http://i.imgur.com/j2kB3pK.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/AtLZ5jS.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/z8Cm27V.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/oHo4xBI.gif

Alex had clean pockets more than he had pressure.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"We're gonna' build a team around Alex S(whistle through teeth)mith and get him the protection he needs(whistle through teeth)"

"Then we're gonna' win at leas(whistle through teeth)t one play off game".

-John Dorsey from his book, "High Expectations"

[OldSchool]

Like this one?

http://i.imgur.com/j2kB3pK.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/AtLZ5jS.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/z8Cm27V.gif

Or this one?

http://i.imgur.com/oHo4xBI.gif

Alex had clean pockets more than he had pressure.

Alex had quick pressure on 40% of his snaps. That's way too high for any NFL QB to play well and get into any rhythm.

Aaron Rodgers has off-days as well. So does Tom Brady. So does Drew Brees. So does every good QB in the league. Do you know what those "off-days" correlate with? Can you make a guess?

Pass rush pressure. Any QB who gets hit as often as Smith has been and pressured on 40% of his snaps, would be thrown off and make bad decisions/throws because of it. That's why football is still a team game and not an individual sport. That's why franchise LTs are so highly sought and even good OGs are payed very highly these days.

A QB who is getting hit a lot on his drop backs will start to anticipate it and become less effective. Need proof? Go back and watch Tom Brady vs the Giants in the Superbowl.

[splatbass]

You know it is almost football season when there is a huge increase in attention whoring and idiocy from Clayton.

[RealSNR]

Here's to OL again in 2015 in the 1st! ROFL

Hell, they might end up drafting 3 offensive linemen.

I can't wait for the Chiefs to draft players as talented as Eric Fisher, Jeff Allen, and Rodney Hudson :rolleyes:

[OldSchool]

I can't wait for the Chiefs to draft players as talented as Eric Fisher, Jeff Allen, and Rodney Hudson :rolleyes:

Dorsey needs to find a better balance between "potential" and actual play/production on the field.

[Rausch]

That is fucking pathetic.

How does anyone think this offense can have success with a line like that?...

[RealSNR]

Dorsey needs to find a better balance between "potential" and actual play/production on the field.

In the meantime, next year will be full of rookies and rookie mistakes. Maybe they won't be as bad as Zach Fulton, but people like you will still be bitching up a storm about how the OL sucks.

Unless we go out and sign some decent free agents, the Alexcuses are going to continue until Fisher and Fulton manage to hold their own dicks when they pee.

It almost makes me want to see the team trade for Alex Boone just so these bullshit excuses will fucking stop.

[Sandy Vagina]

It almost makes me want to see the team trade for Alex Boone just so these bullshit excuses will ****ing stop.

As suggested, how is this not simple cause and effect VS making excuses?

On this play:

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Vikings-Pass-Rush-vs-Chiefs-3.gif


How is Fulton and Davis completely failing to block the free rusher an excuse for the QB? WTF is the QB supposed to do there?

"the QB can't close out a playoff game." How does one say this, knowing full well his 12 mil per yr WR didn't stab his 2nd foot in bounds like he should have? and that "it's an excuse" for said QB?


The answer: because you don't like said QB.

If this were a QB you did like? you would be using these very same "excuses" for him. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.

[RealSNR]

As suggested, how is this not simple cause and effect VS making excuses?

On this play:

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Vikings-Pass-Rush-vs-Chiefs-3.gif


How is Fulton and Davis completely failing to block the free rusher an excuse for the QB? WTF is the QB supposed to do there?

"the QB can't close out a playoff game." How does one say this, knowing full well his 12 mil per yr WR didn't stab his 2nd foot in bounds like he should have? and that "it's an excuse" for said QB?


The answer: because you don't like said QB.

If this were a QB you did like? you would be using these very same "excuses" for him. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.

We'd have a real fucking problem if that kind of shit happened 100% of the time.

We'd have a real fucking problem if that kind of shit happened 50% of the time.

We'd have a real fucking problem if that kind of shit happened even 20% of the time.

It doesn't. It's one horrific god awful play. And while it demonstrates the enormous pile of suck that is Zach Fulton, it doesn't mean we should trade and pay out the ass for a goddamn guard.

[Fish]

Starting offense: 0 TDs in 3 preseason games.

[Sandy Vagina]

We'd have a real ****ing problem if that kind of shit happened 100% of the time.

We'd have a real ****ing problem if that kind of shit happened 50% of the time.

We'd have a real ****ing problem if that kind of shit happened even 20% of the time.

It doesn't. It's one horrific god awful play. And while it demonstrates the enormous pile of suck that is Zach Fulton, it doesn't mean we should trade and pay out the ass for a goddamn guard.

I get what you're saying... but I was using those small examples to question the difference between "excuses" and "cause and effect."

[OldSchool]

As suggested, how is this not simple cause and effect VS making excuses?

On this play:

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Vikings-Pass-Rush-vs-Chiefs-3.gif


How is Fulton and Davis completely failing to block the free rusher an excuse for the QB? WTF is the QB supposed to do there?

"the QB can't close out a playoff game." How does one say this, knowing full well his 12 mil per yr WR didn't stab his 2nd foot in bounds like he should have? and that "it's an excuse" for said QB?


The answer: because you don't like said QB.

If this were a QB you did like? you would be using these very same "excuses" for him. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
Allen may have been the one that screwed up on that play. See how Davis moved out to block the DB but Allen picked the blitzer up instead of staying on the DE while Fulton stayed inside on the DT. Screw up in blocking assignments due to unfamiliarity.

[RealSNR]

I get what you're saying... but I was using those small examples to question the difference between "excuses" and "cause and effect."

Any Chiefs fan who witnessed the Vermeil years would be a fool to argue an offensive line doesn't affect a QB's success.

Thankfully nobody here is arguing that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Any Chiefs fan who witnessed the Vermeil years would be a fool to argue an offensive line doesn't affect a QB's success.

Thankfully nobody here is arguing that.

Exactly. The debate is; do you try to build an All-Pro brick wall for Mr. Mediocre, or do you pursue elite talent at the most important position on the field, and assemble a serviceable line that he can operate with?

If you get some Pro Bowl linemen along the way; bonus.

[Sandy Vagina]

Allen may have been the one that screwed up on that play. See how Davis moved out to block the DB but Allen picked the blitzer up instead of staying on the DE while Fulton stayed inside on the DT. Screw up in blocking assignments due to unfamiliarity.

wow.. yeah. You are right. It's funny how one (me:derp) can see one thing and then now see it as another. Point stands, but yes.. that's quite a distinction. :thumb:

[Sandy Vagina]

Exactly. The debate is; do you try to build an All-Pro brick wall for Mr. Mediocre, or do you pursue elite talent at the most important position on the field, and assemble a serviceable line that he can operate with?

If you get some Pro Bowl linemen along the way; bonus.

Ok, duly noted. But I disagree that "Mr. Mediocre" needs an All-Pro brick wall. To me, that's you going to extremes to make a point about a QB you don't like.

He does, however, need a line that isn't a complete dumpster-fire. How many other starting QBs actually can function well with a bottom 5 line?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Ok, duly noted. But I disagree that "Mr. Mediocre" needs an All-Pro brick wall. To me, that's you going to extremes to make a point about a QB you don't like.

He does, however, need a line that isn't a complete dumpster-fire. How many other starting QBs actually can function well with a bottom 5 line?

7-9, feelin' fine/infinity?

[OldSchool]

Exactly. The debate is; do you try to build an All-Pro brick wall for Mr. Mediocre, or do you pursue elite talent at the most important position on the field, and assemble a serviceable line that he can operate with?

If you get some Pro Bowl linemen along the way; bonus.

Who said he needed an All-Pro brick wall? All he needs is a competent OL that can provide him with even just average protection. Right now it's not a stretch to say that KC has the absolute worst offensive line in the league.

They can't run block, they struggle setting up screen plays, and they can't pass protect.

When was the last time that you saw a successful QB behind a line that allows pressure on 40% of drop backs? The answer is never.

[Mr. Laz]

You know it is almost football season when there is a huge increase in attention whoring and idiocy from Clayton.

so much this.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Who said he needed an All-Pro brick wall? All he needs is a competent OL that can provide him with even just average protection. Right now it's not a stretch to say that KC has the absolute worst offensive line in the league.

They can't run block, they struggle setting up screen plays, and they can't pass protect.

When was the last time that you saw a successful QB behind a line that allows pressure on 40% of drop backs? The answer is never.

Couldn't say. But, I can tell you when the next/soonest time will occur when I will be laughing my ass off at the hilarity of it all...

[FringeNC]

Line was brutal at the beginning of the season last year too. Can only hope this line improves in a similar fashion.

[NinerDoug]

Meh, preseason.

[Mav]

Line was brutal at the beginning of the season last year too. Can only hope this line improves in a similar fashion.

they really cant play any worse.

[OldSchool]

Hell, I think I'd take Incognito right now. Maybe everyone on the OL will stop being bitches with him around, lol.

[Chiefnj2]

Smith is going to be worth next to nothing at the end of this season. 4-5 wins, career high number of sacks, maybe 20% of his passes to WRs. Take whatever KC is offering right now. I'm pretty sure Bowe, Berry and Charles are all passing the pipe around their parked car in Arrowhead hoping a police officer stops them so they can take the year off. No point sacrificing your body for this mess.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Smith is going to be worth next to nothing at the end of this season. 4-5 wins, career high number of sacks, maybe 20% of his passes to WRs. Take whatever KC is offering right now. I'm pretty sure Bowe, Berry and Charles are all passing the pipe around their parked car in Arrowhead hoping a police officer stops them so they can take the year off. No point sacrificing your body for this mess.

LMAO

[Ebolapox]

Who said he needed an All-Pro brick wall? All he needs is a competent OL that can provide him with even just average protection. Right now it's not a stretch to say that KC has the absolute worst offensive line in the league.

They can't run block, they struggle setting up screen plays, and they can't pass protect.

When was the last time that you saw a successful QB behind a line that allows pressure on 40% of drop backs? The answer is never.

so we have a GM who can't build a proper offensive line (EVEN WITH the first overall pick and two apparently quality LT prospects) COMBINED with a 'what do we really have with this guy' retread hand-picked QB

yay. I really have a ton of confidence in these guys. guess it's time to check out again on this team. my choice to root for these dumb fuckers.

[rtmike]

The right side collapses every time :doh!:.

The Husker kid Henry looks decent.

[beach tribe]

And by "Getting help", you mean when he leaves his man unblocked and double teams the center's guy?

LMAO

https://pff-pffanalysisltd12.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Vikings-Pass-Rush-vs-Chiefs-3.gif

I hate to tell you guys this, but #99 is the RT's man to block.
Not Fulton's.

Davis or Sherman or both had Blitz pick-up (#34) but the RT shot out and picked up the blitz instead, and probably got a positive grade from PFF because they, like you guys, don't know what you are looking at. No offense.
I'm not trying to defend Fulton either. He has been HORRIBLE.

[OldSchool]

I hate to tell you guys this, but #99 is the RT's man to block.
Not Fulton's.

Davis or Sherman had Blitz pick-up (#34) but the RT shot out and picked up the blitz instead, and probably got a positive grade from PFF because they, like you guys, don't know what you are looking at. No offense.
I'm not trying to defend Fulton either. He has been HORRIBLE.

Yeah, it looked like a blown assignment from Allen to me just judging from what Davis did in protection. Immediately kicked out to block the DB only to have Allen's ass in his face.

[Fish]

I hate to tell you guys this, but #99 is the RT's man to block.
Not Fulton's.

Davis or Sherman or both had Blitz pick-up (#34) but the RT shot out and picked up the blitz instead, and probably got a positive grade from PFF because they, like you guys, don't know what you are looking at. No offense.
I'm not trying to defend Fulton either. He has been HORRIBLE.

You might be right. That looked to be a screen pass to the right. Fulton looked locked on to the NT along with the center, and when the LB came to the line to blitz, the LT engaged him outside the DE and completely ignored the blitzing LB. The defense just overloaded the right side.

But.... why would we double the left DE and double the NT, if we're running a screen to the right? Fisher doubling the left DE was completely unnecessary.

[ChiTown]

Zach Fulton = Hot Mess.

[ChiefsCountry]

I thought the title was about Benny Hinn instead. Which would make sense with the cult following Alex Smith.

[Pablo]

so we have a GM who can't build a proper offensive line (EVEN WITH the first overall pick and two apparently quality LT prospects) COMBINED with a 'what do we really have with this guy' retread hand-picked QB

yay. I really have a ton of confidence in these guys. guess it's time to check out again on this team. my choice to root for these dumb fuckers.It's best to have blind faith in your GM. After all, they're getting paid to do this, you're just some guy online!!

[RealSNR]

It's best to have blind faith in your GM. After all, they're getting paid to do this, you're just some guy online!!

If you have a criticism against what the Chiefs do, you work at McDonald's and live in your mom's basement /CP

[beach tribe]

You might be right. That looked to be a screen pass to the right. Fulton looked locked on to the NT along with the center, and when the LB came to the line to blitz, the LT engaged him outside the DE and completely ignored the blitzing LB. The defense just overloaded the right side.

But.... why would we double the left DE and double the NT, if we're running a screen to the right? Fisher doubling the left DE was completely unnecessary.

Because it's not a screen.

Look at it again.

The TE was helping Fisher against the RIGHT DE.
LG was straight up against a DT,
Fulton and the C on the other DT,
and the RT was supposed to have the LDE,
with Davis picking up the blitz
and Sherman running a check down route.

I don't know what LB you are talking about.

There was a S blitz, and the RT chased it instead of blocking LDE.
Blowing the entire blocking scheme.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I've never seen a guard play worse than Fulton has. He looks like a fucking clown.

[beach tribe]

I've never seen a guard play worse than Fulton has. He looks like a ****ing clown.

Ridiculously horrible.

[Chiefnj2]

Why isn't 65 ahead of Allen or Fulton? I've only seen the clips, but he looks better than those guys.

[loochy]

Like this one?

....

multiple GIFs

....

Alex had clean pockets more than he had pressure.

Does this mean we'll get GIFd up this year?

[Gonzo]

He's a dead man by week four. This line is the second worst I've ever seen.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He's a dead man by week four. This line is the second worst I've ever seen.

Dude, if Bray survives the cut, we could be looking a hot, gunslinger action by week 6!

[Hammock Parties]

Does this mean we'll get GIFd up this year?

You got GIF'd up last year. It was just spread around in a couple threads.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

You got GIF'd up last year. It was just spread around in a couple threads.

A full thread with daily devotionals of suckage is required. This is a special year.

[John Dope]

Was that the first time Allen played tackle in the NFL in a real game? I have read about him doing it in practice but has he ever done it in a preseason game or real game?

[Hammock Parties]

This is a special year.

Really? How many special years are we going to have? :banghead:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Really? How many special years are we going to have? :banghead:

LMAO

I'm guessing quite a few.

[Sandy Vagina]

Really? How many special years are we going to have? :banghead:

Why bang your head? You said just yesterday you love this chaotic shit and embrace the suck.

Dude... at least be consistent with your disingenuous schtick.

[Saccopoo]

Hey, CE, what's Gabe Jackson's PFF reading so far this preseason?

[Hammock Parties]

Why bang your head? You said just yesterday you love this chaotic shit and embrace the suck.

Dude... at least be consistent with your disingenuous schtick.

I do. Doesn't mean I have to create more work for myself.

[Hammock Parties]

Hey, CE, what's Gabe Richardson's PFF reading so far this preseason?

I don't know. I canceled my subscription. We know the Chiefs suck. No one needs convincing with PFF garbage this year.

[Saccopoo]

I don't know. I canceled my subscription. We know the Chiefs suck. No one needs convincing with PFF garbage this year.

True that.

[loochy]

Really? How many special years are we going to have? :banghead:

however long alex smith is here

[Kaepernick]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/08/24/chiefs-offensive-line-in-focus/

Click above to see Alex Smith doing a great Benny Hill impersonation in the video clips.

Bad title. Should be "Chiefs Offensive Line playing Keystone Cops".

[Sandy Vagina]

Hey, CE, what's Gabe Jackson's PFF reading so far this preseason?

4th best rated G so far. You probably knew that, but just saying. ;)

[Kaepernick]

Looking forward to an entire season of Oline vs Alex Smith circular debates overlapped by QB vs Oline in the 1st circular debates that will fire up around early October on into April 2015. Sprinkled in with talk of how we can short change Houston.

Because we are the Chiefs.

Thanks. I no longer need to read the forum for the rest of the year. I will just come back here and read your post over and over. :thumb:

[Pablo]

I've never seen a ______ play worse than ________ has. He looks like a fucking clown.Your handy dandy 2014 Chiefs season fill in the blank game!

[Saccopoo]

4th best rated G so far. You probably knew that, but just saying. ;)

I kinda did know that...

[KCUnited]

Thanks. I no longer need to read the forum for the rest of the year. I will just come back here and read your post over and over. :thumb:

Be sure to stop back by for the pre-combine "Best Guard Prospect In A Decade" drinking game. Or the o/u 1st round olineman mocked to the Chiefs betting challenge.

[Kaepernick]

Be sure to stop back by for the pre-combine "Best Guard Prospect In A Decade" drinking game. Or the o/u 1st round olineman mocked to the Chiefs betting challenge.

Can't wait. Looking forward to it! :)