Chiefs sign S Kurt Coleman

[The Franchise]

Chiefs signed S Kurt Coleman.

Coleman was part of the Vikings' final cuts after inking a one-year deal with Minnesota in March. He was drafted by coach Andy Reid in Philadelphia and will be Kansas City's No. 4 safety. Coleman will mainly cover kicks for the Chiefs.

[WakkaWakka]

The missing piece

[Direckshun]

When he came out of Ohio State, I always thought he was a tweener.

Too small to be a SS, too slow to be a FS. But a solid fundamentals tackler with good intensity on the field.

Reid drafted him low and turned him into an okay starter.

In my mock drafts a year ago, I would often project him as a cheap pickup for the Chiefs.

[Easy 6]

HELL YEAH

[Mr. Kotter]

Print 'em?

[El Jefe]

When he came out of Ohio State, I always thought he was a tweener.

Too small to be a SS, too big to be a FS.

Reid drafted him low and turned him into an okay starter.

In my mock drafts a year ago, I would often project him as a cheap pickup for the Chiefs.

Man, I love Kurt Coleman, the guy is a ballhawk. He is a bit of a tweener, but he is fast and he hits hard and is always around the ball.

[Direckshun]

Print 'em?

Shut the fuck up, Donnie.

[Direckshun]

Basically, he's the Quinten Demps of this year.

Former starting Eagles safety that will come in and play in nickel and dime packages.

Coleman isn't the returning dynamo Demps was, but he's much more solid in coverage and he's not the embarrassingly bad tackler Demps was.

[The Franchise]

Basically, he's the Quinten Demps of this year.

Former starting Eagles safety that will come in and play in nickel and dime packages.

Coleman isn't the returning dynamo Demps was, but he's much more solid in coverage and he's not the embarrassingly bad tackler Demps was.

So Sorenson should be gone then?

[Titty Meat]

This guy reminds me of Kurt Cobain

[Sandy Vagina]

Basically, he's the Quinten Demps of this year.

Former starting Eagles safety that will come in and play in nickel and dime packages.

Coleman isn't the returning dynamo Demps was, but he's much more solid in coverage and he's not the embarrassingly bad tackler Demps was.

Sounds good. Just so long as Kendrick Lewis is gone, there can be hope for the secondary!

[The Franchise]

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[Direckshun]

So Sorenson should be gone then?

Sorenson has nude pics of Andy Reid or something.

Sorenson will be on the 53 no matter what.

[bdj23]

To the 'ship

[The Franchise]

Sorenson has nude pics of Andy Reid or something.

Sorenson will be on the 53 no matter what.

Soooooooo....5 safeties or McCray gets cut?

[Direckshun]

Soooooooo....5 safeties or McCray gets cut?

Huh.

Good question. I hadn't done the math on that.

CBs: Smith, Cooper, Owens, Gaines, Parker
Ss: Berry, Abdullah, Coleman, Sorenson, McCray

Is there a safety I'm leaving out, or something?

Teams typically keep 10 DBs. They're special teams gold, and depth there is more important than ever.

[The Franchise]

Huh.

Good question. I hadn't done the math on that.

CBs: Smith, Cooper, Owens, Gaines, Parker
Ss: Berry, Abdullah, Coleman, Sorenson, McCray

Is there a safety I'm leaving out, or something?

Teams typically keep 10 DBs. They're special teams gold, and depth there is more important than ever.

Then let's cut McKnight and be done with it.

I'm interested to see how McCray looks at FS when he has a chance.

[Willie Lanier]

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So if we play Brandon weeden we're covered... Thank god

[Easy 6]

He actually sounds like a pretty good nab.

[Chiefnj2]

Is Berry healthy?

[Dante84]

Hmm... this could be a very crucial signing, even though its for a backup role.

Hope he's worth a damn.

[Mav]

Trent Richardson crushed him.

[Direckshun]

Then let's cut McKnight and be done with it.

I'm interested to see how McCray looks at FS when he has a chance.

Teams usually keep 4 RBs, too, do they not?

3 QBs
5 RBs (including 1 FB)
5 WRs
3 TEs
9 OL

In a 3-4....

7 DL
9 LB
10 DB

3 ST

That's 54. So somewhere in there, the least impressive special teamer gets cut.

[The Franchise]

Teams usually keep 4 RBs, too, do they not?

3 QBs
5 RBs (including 1 FB)
5 WRs
3 TEs
9 OL

In a 3-4....

7 DL
9 LB
10 DB

3 ST

That's 54. So somewhere in there, the least impressive special teamer gets cut.

Well Week 1 should pinpoint which WR is going to get cut when Bowe gets back from his suspension. My guess would be Jenkins. Hammond Jr or Wilson won't make it to the PS if we release them.

I say cut McKnight. If we lose a RB to injury...just bring West up from the PS.

[Crush]

The beginning of an era.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> S Kurt Coleman’s best statistical season came in 2012, when he had 93 tackles, 4 PBU’s and 2 INTs as a starter.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506831927165595648">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>However, Coleman&#39;s Pro Football Focus grade of negative-15.5 in 2012 ranked 85th among 88 safeties. Was a reserve in ’13 under Chip Kelly.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506832049546620928">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Direckshun]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> S Kurt Coleman’s best statistical season came in 2012, when he had 93 tackles, 4 PBU’s and 2 INTs as a starter.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506831927165595648">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>However, Coleman's Pro Football Focus grade of negative-15.5 in 2012 ranked 85th among 88 safeties. Was a reserve in ’13 under Chip Kelly.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506832049546620928">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[thabear04]

Soooooooo....5 safeties or McCray gets cut?

Or Joe McKnight gets cut.

[TEX]

Glad they're looking at Safety now instead of like March/April/May...

Regardless this guy BLOWS as bad as Kendrick Lewis.

[htismaqe]

Funny how Dorsey supposedly has complete control and yet they're signing all these Andy Reid guys...

[-King-]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> S Kurt Coleman’s best statistical season came in 2012, when he had 93 tackles, 4 PBU’s and 2 INTs as a starter.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506831927165595648">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>However, Coleman's Pro Football Focus grade of negative-15.5 in 2012 ranked 85th among 88 safeties. Was a reserve in ’13 under Chip Kelly.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/statuses/506832049546620928">September 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Grain of salt. Same year they said Charles wasn't a top 100 player.
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[Dante84]

FWIW, my buddy is a huge Eagles fan. Our correspondence this morning:

Me: Hey, is Kurt Coleman worth a damn? We just signed him as a backup Safety.
Him: Umm...no. Dude is garbage.
Me: Welp.

[Saccopoo]

So Sorenson should be gone then?

I fucking hope so. Sorensen sucks dick. Horrible. No upside.

Kurt Coleman is a CP approved ace.

We are saved.

[penbrook]

We sign Coleman but not Clemons what is going on here

[The Franchise]

I fucking hope so. Sorensen sucks dick. Horrible. No upside.

Kurt Coleman is a CP approved ace.

We are saved.

LMAO

I was throwing out a name based on the fact that I figured they wouldn't keep 5 safeties. It's ok Sac....

[Saccopoo]

We sign Coleman but not Clemons what is going on here

You have apparently not read enough on the Chris Clemons thread.

Everything is explained there.

[mcaj22]

Coleman is the Eagles fans version of Kendrick Lewis

hes that bad

[ChiefGator]

FWIW, my buddy is a huge Eagles fan. Our correspondence this morning:

Me: Hey, is Kurt Coleman worth a damn? We just signed him as a backup Safety.
Him: Umm...no. Dude is garbage.
Me: Welp.

Welp.. everyone back outta the boat.

[srvy]

Manning and Clemons out there and we sign 85th best out of 88 geeeeez. Well cant say as I know jack squat about the kid hope he can help.

[thabear04]

Manning and Clemons out there and we sign 85th best out of 88 geeeeez. Well cant say as I know jack squat about the kid hope he can help.

Thought Daniel Manning was gonna sign with the texans?

[srvy]

Thought Daniel Manning was gonna sign with the texans?

Yeah I think so but im not even sure we inquired.

[Rasputin]

To the 'ship

Made out of duct tape

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[Red Beans]

Then let's cut McKnight and be done with it.

I'm interested to see how McCray looks at FS when he has a chance.

I agree. Let's stop playing with his emotions and get to the reality of the situation...

[Mr. Laz]

Glad they're looking at Safety now instead of like March/April/May...

:banghead::banghead:

[saphojunkie]

They bet on Sanders Comings and lost. Damn.

[The Franchise]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 37s
Former #Chargers S Brandon Taylor visited the #Chiefs on Monday.

[keg in kc]

The Igglification continues.

[thabear04]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 37s
Former #Chargers S Brandon Taylor visited the #Chiefs on Monday.

He was already with them in 2012.

[Urc Burry]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 37s
Former #Chargers S Brandon Taylor visited the #Chiefs on Monday.

I remember us getting jumped in the draft for him and Stephen Hill

[The Franchise]

He was already with them in 2012.

:spock:

[penbrook]

I like how now we address the safety situation

Great job Dorsey

[thabear04]

I like how now we address the safety situation

Great job Dorsey

best GM ever.

[chiefzilla1501]

He probably signed at a minimum contract, he's better than our safeties on the bubble of this roster, and he's not here to be a long-term fix. He's very good at special teams and I bet will be an upgrade over Demps since he can play both safety and corner, which gives them versatility in nickel and dime. It's a good signing even if the point is to have a veteran who should hopefully be replaced by a draft pick one day. We should be making more of these < $1M value moves than overpaying $3M for guys like Chase Daniel.

[O.city]

Brandon Taylor, I do like.

Chris Clemons, I like alot.

Kurt whoever, I do not like.

[chiefzilla1501]

Brandon Taylor, I do like.

Chris Clemons, I like alot.

Kurt whoever, I do not like.

I think it matters a lot less when the point is to stopgap, not to find a long-term replacement. I think Coleman will do fine in a Demps type role and he's excellent on special teams. When I remember him with the Eagles, he wasn't good but he wasn't close to Kendrick Lewis bad. Who knows, maybe in a defense like KC where free safety speed is a lot less important, he could end up doing okay.

[mcaj22]

but he was Kendrick Lewis bad on the Eagles. Ask any Eagles fan, Im sure one of them will post here with their take on him.

He will be horrible in the Demps role

[chiefzilla1501]

but he was Kendrick Lewis bad on the Eagles. Ask any Eagles fan, Im sure one of them will post here with their take on him.

He will be horrible in the Demps role

I saw Coleman play a few games. He's bad, but I don't think any Eagles fan knows exactly how bad "Kendrick Lewis bad" is. Keep in mind that Demps was cut in favor of Coleman.

This costs us nothing. If this is a long-term fix, then shit. But I doubt that it is. This is not a bad role for him because Coleman can play corner and Philly even considered moving him back there. You put him in a Demps role and you're not asking him to play center field as much and his versatility to play corner might actually help us. And because the Ryan defense often has less speedy free safeties back there that might help Coleman out too.

[milkman]

I saw Coleman play a few games. He's bad, but I don't think any Eagles fan knows exactly how bad "Kendrick Lewis bad" is. Keep in mind that Demps was cut in favor of Coleman.

This costs us nothing. If this is a long-term fix, then shit. But I doubt that it is. This is not a bad role for him because Coleman can play corner and Philly even considered moving him back there. You put him in a Demps role and you're not asking him to play center field as much and his versatility to play corner might actually help us. And because the Ryan defense often has less speedy free safeties back there that might help Coleman out too.

Chiefs should hire you to write for their website.

You make the dumbassery that you spout almost sound reasonable.

[thabear04]

but he was Kendrick Lewis bad on the Eagles. Ask any Eagles fan, Im sure one of them will post here with their take on him.

He will be horrible in the Demps role

If i can't find him on Madden 15 is that a bad thing?

[chiefzilla1501]

Chiefs should hire you to write for their website.

You make the dumbassery that you spout almost sound reasonable.

He's a veteran. He costs nothing to keep, nothing to cut. He's better than our bottom of the roster safeties. And he's excellent at Special Teams. He is probably better than Demps which isn't saying much.

Feel free to disagree with any of those points.

[milkman]

He's a veteran. He costs nothing to keep, nothing to cut. He's better than our bottom of the roster safeties. And he's excellent at Special Teams. He is probably better than Demps which isn't saying much.

Feel free to disagree with any of those points.

Sounds fucking great.

I mean rather than address the huge gaping fucking holes on this roster in the draft, let's go on this 5 year rebuilding plan and draft replacements for the quality starters we do have and sign scrubs off the street to to marginally stopgap the gaping holes.

[thabear04]

He's a veteran. He costs nothing to keep, nothing to cut. He's better than our bottom of the roster safeties. And he's excellent at Special Teams. He is probably better than Demps which isn't saying much.

Feel free to disagree with any of those points.

Can he return kick offs too?

[booger]

I'd rather see Bronson in that spot

[John Dope]

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[chiefzilla1501]

Sounds ****ing great.

I mean rather than address the huge gaping ****ing holes on this roster in the draft, let's go on this 5 year rebuilding plan and draft replacements for the quality starters we do have and sign scrubs off the street to to marginally stopgap the gaping holes.

If the Chiefs hit on the Ford pick and the Gaines pick, they'll save about $18M on two players who are on a very short leash as is (Hali, Sean Smith). DAT looks like he'll provide a good receiving weapon. And I know you have no problem with the Murray choice.

You can argue the quality of the picks if you want. I'm iffy on the Ford pick even though I'm ecstatic we chose positional value over "safe." But really, we're going to pigeonhole the Chiefs into saying it was WR or safety in the first round or bust? This team has a million gaping holes on the roster, not just 2. If Ford does end up working out, I'll be more than happy that we took an OLB over a safety.

[Buehler445]

Sounds fucking great.

I mean rather than address the huge gaping fucking holes on this roster in the draft, let's go on this 5 year rebuilding plan and draft replacements for the quality starters we do have and sign scrubs off the street to to marginally stopgap the gaping holes.

I don't think Zilla is arguing that it is fucking asinine we are this shorty on the back end (it is). But that doesn't mean Coleman is a bad signing.


I don't know one way or the other. I haven't seen him play.

[milkman]

If the Chiefs hit on the Ford pick and the Gaines pick, they'll save about $18M on two players who are on a very short leash as is (Hali, Sean Smith). DAT looks like he'll provide a good receiving weapon. And I know you have no problem with the Murray choice.

You can argue the quality of the picks if you want. I'm iffy on the Ford pick even though I'm ecstatic we chose positional value over "safe." But really, we're going to pigeonhole the Chiefs into saying it was WR or safety in the first round or bust? This team has a million gaping holes on the roster, not just 2. If Ford does end up working out, I'll be more than happy that we took an OLB over a safety.

We need more than one WR.
We need more than one corner.
We need more than one safety.
We need an ILB next to DJ.

Pigeonhole?

That's fucking stupid.

[Buehler445]

OK. Nevermind. You guys are talking about something outside the scope of Coleman.

[xztop123]

I liked Brandon Taylor from LSU better...

[chiefzilla1501]

OK. Nevermind. You guys are talking about something outside the scope of Coleman.

No, your point is exactly what I'm getting at.

As I said, Coleman is better than what we have on the back-end of the roster. He costs nothing to keep and to cut.

The draft conversation is a side comment milkman made. It shouldn't have any bearing on whether this move was good or not. In fact, I even said in no way should this be considered a long-term fix.

[chiefzilla1501]

We need more than one WR.
We need more than one corner.
We need more than one safety.
We need an ILB next to DJ.

Pigeonhole?

That's ****ing stupid.

If Ford, Gaines, or DAT pan out, I don't know how anyone could have an issue with where they were slotted. They're high positional value players. And we don't need to be overpaying Hali as a 32-33 year old going into his last contract.

Next year, we'll have 11 picks. If Gaines and Ford can start by next year, we'll save $18M if we can gut Hali and Sean Smith's contracts. There are a LOT of corners, WRs, safeties, and ILBs you can get with that haul.

[jd1020]

If Ford, Gaines, or DAT pan out, I don't know how anyone could have an issue with where they were slotted. They're high positional value players. And we don't need to be overpaying Hali as a 32-33 year old going into his last contract.

What is high positional value about someone like DAT? Virtually every fucking team has one.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

I fucking hope so. Sorensen sucks dick. Horrible. No upside.

Kurt Coleman is a CP approved ace.

We are saved.

At least Coleman is biracial. Getting closer to a superior DB

[OldSchool]

At least Coleman is biracial. Getting closer to a superior DB

LMAO

[chiefzilla1501]

What is high positional value about someone like DAT? Virtually every ****ing team has one.

If DAT pans out, there shouldn't be a damn person who argues about the slotting of the pick. Playmakers earn positional value. If he spreads out wide (which I imagine he'll do more and more as he learns the WR position) that earns positional value too.