A/C is out... can't fucking sleep.

[Silock]

Even with the fan blowing right on me, I'm sweating like crazy.

A/C guy will be here in 2.5 hours. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Lonewolf Ed]

Is it cool enough to open a window? A storm is moving in to the east of Olathe, so it might be over you now.

[Kaepernick]

Man, that is the worst. I can't sleep in the heat.

Honestly, if you have a bath tub, sitting in a cold tub for an hour will draw all the heat out of you and probably give you 3 or 4 hours of relief before you feel hot again. At least this used to work for us when we had a swimming pool. We would just chill in the pool a half hour or more and for whatever weird reason, it would have some residual cooling effect.

Your mileage may vary.

I hope the emergency AC repair prices don't gouge you too badly, but probably will.

[Silock]

Is it cool enough to open a window? A storm is moving in to the east of Olathe, so it might be over you now.

They're all open. Just no airflow for whatever reason :(

[Silock]

Man, that is the worst. I can't sleep in the heat.

Honestly, if you have a bath tub, sitting in a cold tub for an hour will draw all the heat out of you and probably give you 3 or 4 hours of relief before you feel hot again. At least this used to work for us when we had a swimming pool. We would just chill in the pool a half hour or more and for whatever weird reason, it would have some residual cooling effect.

Your mileage may vary.

I hope the emergency AC repair prices don't gouge you too badly, but probably will.

I'm contemplating going for a drive because my car has A/C, at least lol

Meanwhile, my wife is sleeping like a log.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Take a cold shower

[loochy]

No friends or family that have a bed you can sleep in for one night?

[Kman34]

Fan in the window will draw the cool air in...

[Silock]

No friends or family that have a bed you can sleep in for one night?

Yes, but I wasn't that hot when I went to bed. A/C guy will be here in an hour, anyway.

[R8RFAN]

Just think of people 75 years ago that didn't have ac

[Simply Red]

sorry man - I just went through this - M.Man told me to turn of the breaker switch for the AC for an hour then turn back on.

I did that and IT WORKED!

Maybe try it???? IDK if it's too late - hadn't read the rest of the thread, but.

[Buehler445]

Cold ass shower. I mean so damn cold you can't stand it. Then air dry.

I feel your pain dude. I'd be in heaven if people kept their houses at 62. My wife won't allow that, and most people want them at 75, which is right at the threshold of what I can't stand. I spend most of my life miserable.

[Bwana]

Just think of people 75 years ago that didn't have ac

Well that and I hear the poor bastages had to walk back and forth to school uphill both ways. :D

Oh and OP, double check your filter.

[keg in kc]

I went through this too. Cooling unit had a leak and all the freon got out. Of course it was the first 90 degree string of days this summer after weeks of unseasonably nice weather. 88 in my apartment at night, cooled down to about 80 by sunrise, so I was sleeping from about 7 am to noon for a few days. :(

[WhawhaWhat]

Even with the fan blowing right on me, I'm sweating like crazy.

A/C guy will be here in 2.5 hours. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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[cosmo20002]

Don't use so much anti-freeze next time.

[Silock]

Well that and I hear the poor bastages had to walk back and forth to school uphill both ways. :D

Oh and OP, double check your filter.

First thing I did was change the filter. Didn't work. Went outside and cleaned off the condenser coils.

No luck. Unit kicks on for a few seconds and then shuts itself off again. I think the coolant is low.

[srvy]

Basement? We are spoiled growing up central air was very rare in households we had a window fan and basement. Dad got a big ass window unit that would cool a livingroom and den. We would all sleep there. Damn thing would always freeze up solid by morning and have to be defrosted getting hot again. Hang in there maybe a maxi pad will dry out the mangina ROFL

[Silock]

I'm in the basement now.

It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have a fever of 101.

[Fairplay]

Go to a motel 6 bring a gun to protect yourself. Bring your own sheets unless you want sticky stuff on you.

[Bugeater]

First thing I did was change the filter. Didn't work. Went outside and cleaned off the condenser coils.

No luck. Unit kicks on for a few seconds and then shuts itself off again. I think the coolant is low.
Is the condenser fan coming on? Sounds like the compressor is going into overload
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[Bugeater]

My money is on a bad capacitor
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[Silock]

Yeah, it comes on.

The condenser line was frozen for a while, but then it hasn't been able to keep running long enough to freeze up again.

[Bugeater]

Huh, that's odd. I've seen them run for hours while froze up. Could be a dirty evaporator coil. Should still operate after it thaws out though.
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[kepp]

First thing I did was change the filter. Didn't work. Went outside and cleaned off the condenser coils.

No luck. Unit kicks on for a few seconds and then shuts itself off again. I think the coolant is low.

You blew your capacitor. I had that happen two summers in a row.

[srvy]

Yep its a bad cap most the time on units now days. Pretty easy fix if u can connect a couple wires and understand hoe to cut off power to unit.

A HVAC guy will charge you just shy of 300.00 bucks checking Cap on Amazon will cost ya about 10 bucks. You can check the cap if it has gone bad if you have a multimeter.

[Bugeater]

If the compressor and fan are both coming on, it's not a capacitor.
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[srvy]

The fan can come on but the compressor wont.

[Silock]

HVAC dude is here. He's outside checking something right now but says he thinks the freon is super low. Which sucks because that means that there's a leak somewhere.

[srvy]

The big silver cap boosts the power to start the compressor the fan doesnt need that load to start.

[Bugeater]

The big silver cap boosts the power to start the compressor the fan doesnt need that load to start.
Wrong
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Low freon

[LoneWolf]

HVAC dude is here. He's outside checking something right now but says he thinks the freon is super low. Which sucks because that means that there's a leak somewhere.

I hope it's not leaking from your A-coil. I had to replace mine last summer because it was leaking and it cost me $900.00.

[srvy]

Wrong
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Your right I am thinking of the furnace fan. The A/c Cap blown would not generate enough power to start a 120 fan much less a compressor.

[Chief Roundup]

There are only 2 things that can cause one to freeze. Not enough air moving across the indoor coil or low freon.

[Silock]

Liquid line is frozen, not suction line. So that's really bad, apparently.

There's no freon at all registering on his meter. He said it's either a catastrophic leak or a blockage. Neither is good or cheap, he says.

[Chief Roundup]

Liquid line is frozen, not suction line. So that's really bad, apparently.

There's no freon at all registering on his meter. He said it's either a catastrophic leak or a blockage. Neither is good or cheap, he says.

A blockage would probably have to be a TXV, expansion valve, that has gone bad unless something got crushed as far as a copper line or something.

[Silock]

I don't know what any of that means.

[Chief Roundup]

Liquid line is frozen, not suction line. So that's really bad, apparently.

There's no freon at all registering on his meter. He said it's either a catastrophic leak or a blockage. Neither is good or cheap, he says.

By meter I hope you mean set of gauges that he has hooked up to the service ports..??
There is no "meter", like volt ohm meter, that would tell him any of that information.

[Silock]

Yeah.

[Chief Roundup]

I don't know what any of that means.

When freon leaves your outdoor unit heading for your indoor coil it is a liquid. In order for it to cool properly the liquid has to be changed to a gas. The expansion valve creates some of the pressure that is needed to make the change and then lets small amounts, like a mist, through that is now a gas. It flows through the Acoil inside by the time it leaves the coil it will be trying to come back together as a solid which doesn't actually happen until it gets back into the outdoor unit.

[srvy]

Well CAP is out! How old is the unit?

[Silock]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

[Chief Roundup]

If this is a heat pump unit there could also be a problem with the reversing valve. It might be sending the refrigerant the wrong way or it could be stuck between modes. Reversing valve issues can be very odd acting to say the least.

[Frosty]

There are times I wish we had A/C but reading about $1400 repairs make me glad we don't.

[Chief Roundup]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

So then your line filter drier is clogged...????? Is there some reason he cannot backup the freon into the outdoor? Or is this one that is in series in the coils of the outdoor?

[srvy]

Damn that approaching new unit cost. I would see about replacement because 7 years they have become even more efficient might save ya some dollars in the long run.

[Chief Roundup]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

If he can't back pump that freon he should at least be able to reclaim it and put it back in the system when he is done.

[Bugeater]

Liquid line is frozen, not suction line. So that's really bad, apparently.

There's no freon at all registering on his meter. He said it's either a catastrophic leak or a blockage. Neither is good or cheap, he says.

Damn, never seen a frozen liquid line before. I didn't even know that was possible.
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[srvy]

Do you have a friend or neighbor with a bedroom window unit can borrow? Might get ya some rest that way.

[Bugeater]

There are times I wish we had A/C but reading about $1400 repairs make me glad we don't.
It is worth every penny
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[Chief Roundup]

Damn that approaching new unit cost. I would see about replacement because 7 years they have become even more efficient might save ya some dollars in the long run.

Not really. A new unit installed is going to be 2 times that amount. If he has to get a new matching indoor coil/air handler it will be 5 to 7K for a change out.

[Chief Roundup]

Damn, never seen a frozen liquid line before. I didn't even know that was possible.
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It almost has to be a line drier/muffler that is in series with the coils on the outdoor unit.

[Frosty]

It is worth every penny
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I'm sure it is in a lot of places. Fortunately, it's more of a want than a need for me.

[Silock]

So then your line filter drier is clogged...????? Is there some reason he cannot backup the freon into the outdoor? Or is this one that is in series in the coils of the outdoor?

I have no idea. I'm literally clueless about this thing.

[Silock]

Not really. A new unit installed is going to be 2 times that amount. If he has to get a new matching indoor coil/air handler it will be 5 to 7K for a change out.

That's what the guy said. He said this was by far the cheapest option.

[Buehler445]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

Fuck.

How big is your house? I quoted a new one 2 years ago at 1900, I have roughly 1000 up and 1000 down. That is fucking steep.

There are times I wish we had A/C but reading about $1400 repairs make me glad we don't.

Buy that shit. Today. Best invention in the history of mankind save fire.

[Silock]

Fuck.

How big is your house? I quoted a new one 2 years ago at 1900, I have roughly 1000 up and 1000 down. That is fucking steep.

About 3600.

[Eureka]

No AC needed in my area. Never gets below 40 and rarely reaches 90deg.

OP- So if the misses woke up and wanted to get kinky your response would be?

[TambaBerry]

Pm me the company doing it, I know someone who owns his own business might get it cheaper for you.

[Fire Me Boy!]

I'm contemplating going for a drive because my car has A/C, at least lol

Meanwhile, my wife is sleeping like a log.

Many years ago, before my brother and I were ever thought of, my parents were camping in New Orleans (around this time of year, if I'm not mistaken). As you can imagine, NOLA in August is bad. My mom woke up to find my dad missing. He was sleeping in the running car with the A/C on.

[underEJ]

My window unit went out this season and I am trying to make it through without and it has been pretty okay. I have a couple of fans moving the air and on the one or two 99 degree days we have had, I did the ice water in front of the fans trick and it was warm but tolerable. If we get any 100 degree or more days, I will have to weigh the drought vs. comfort level argument and fill the hot tub and just not heat it giving me a tiny pool. I do not enjoy heat at all, 75 starts to get toasty for me.

Good luck with your repair!

[Silock]

No AC needed in my area. Never gets below 40 and rarely reaches 90deg.

OP- So if the misses woke up and wanted to get kinky your response would be?

I'd tell her to fuck right off unless it involved going to a hotel room.

[Silock]

Pm me the company doing it, I know someone who owns his own business might get it cheaper for you.

I will for next time. He's already deep into it now and I'm too desperate to wait. Fucking hot up in this bitch.

[Earthling]

Here in western Colorado most everyone has evaporative coolers rather than a/c. The humidity is low enough for that option. No such luck being in Kansas though; they just don't work well there.

[TimBone]

I feel your pain dude. I'd be in heaven if people kept their houses at 62. My wife won't allow that, and most people want them at 75, which is right at the threshold of what I can't stand. I spend most of my life miserable.

This is my life.

[Chief Roundup]

People that like it cold generally have some type or types of medical issues that make them desire temperatures that cold.

[Demonpenz]

Yeah they are fucking pussies

[Buehler445]

People that like it cold generally have some type or types of medical issues that make them desire temperatures that cold.

I've been to the doctor about it. No fucks were given.

[Silock]

People that like it cold generally have some type or types of medical issues that make them desire temperatures that cold.

Maybe. All my friend keep their houses warmer than ours. It's fine, but every time I spend significant amounts of time with them, I just start sweating and can't stop. And I'm perfectly healthy.

[Buehler445]

About 3600.

Look at the highrolling motherfucker :D.

Really though, I'd do some research after all is said and done. That just seems damn high.

[Silock]

Look at the highrolling motherfucker :D.

Really though, I'd do some research after all is said and done. That just seems damn high.

Probably is. But I'm currently enjoying my running ac and about to settle in for a long nap.

[John Dope]

Even with the fan blowing right on me, I'm sweating like crazy.

A/C guy will be here in 2.5 hours. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

I guess God didn't like your SOC thread and Alex has officially taken Tebow's place as the TD for Jesus golden boy.

[srvy]

Probably is. But I'm currently enjoying my running ac and about to settle in for a long nap.

And what was the culprit? As if it matters. I know when this stuff happens you just want it up and running soon as possible.

[Silock]

Liquid line filter blocked.

[John Dope]

Liquid line filter blocked.

Cool, all you gotta do is pour some bleach dow it.

[srvy]

So that was a 1400.00 buck line unblocking? Or did they replace the line with a new charged line?

[Silock]

So that was a 1400.00 buck line unblocking? Or did they replace the line with a new charged line?

Replaced line, filter and recharged the unit.

[Iowanian]

AC IS OUT IN SEPTEMBER!!!????

Feelin' Turrble for you Bro!

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[Frosty]

As if it matters. I know when this stuff happens you just want it up and running soon as possible.

Yeah, they sort of have the customer over the barrel with respects to the cost to fix it.

"Do you want to fix it now or shop around for a week while you swelter?"

[Easy 6]

I've been in that same spot before Silock, and it always takes me a lot longer to fall asleep if its hot out, laying there just barely avoiding a sweat... but the fan is a MUST.

I can hardly fall asleep even in winter without its white noise whirring me to sleep, how people in the old days managed to sleep without one I'll never know.

[Frosty]

I've been in that same spot before Silock, and it always takes me a lot longer to fall asleep if its hot out, laying there just barely avoiding a sweat... but the fan is a MUST.

I can hardly fall asleep even in winter without its white noise whirring me to sleep, how people in the old days managed to sleep without one I'll never know.

I have to sleep with a fan on year 'round. I'm such a light sleeper that, without one, if the cat next door farts, I will wake up. The white noise from the fan drowns out all the small noises.

[Bugeater]

Replaced line, filter and recharged the unit.
That seems excessive.

[Skyy God]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

Dude, that's a 40 lb box of freon rape. Perhaps you shouldn't be so overtly anxious to get the AC back on next time. You (likely) came across as a mark.

I accidentally cut my line last year.... 6 lbs of freon plus a new filter ran $300.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

People that like it cold generally have some type or types of medical issues that make them desire temperatures that cold.

What about a desired temp of 68 ? Do I need to go see a Doctor ?

You got me worried now . Maybe I need to go ahead and put in for a new liver !

[underEJ]

What about a desired temp of 68 ? Do I need to go see a Doctor ?

You got me worried now . Maybe I need to go ahead and put in for a new liver !

Ha! I'm curious too. What might be lurking in my slightly cooler than everyone else comfort zone?

[Chief Roundup]

That seems excessive.

Yeah I would say so as well. A line drier costs $15 and a 100' coil of 3/8 copper is less than $100 at the supply house.
Everyone is selling freon like R-22 for about $35 - $40 a pound around here. While 410A is running $30-$35 a pound. It would take a 4 to 5 ton unit to coil a house that size unless it was made to the energy efficient standards of encapsulation. Either way I have never had to put more than 15 LBs in a residentual unit. Most the big ones are 10 to 12 lbs. Which I still don't understand why the refrigerant could not have been either backpumped into the outdoor or reclaimed and then put back into the unit unless the guy is just to small time to have all the proper equipment or he was just trying to make an extra buck.

[Chief Roundup]

What about a desired temp of 68 ? Do I need to go see a Doctor ?

You got me worried now . Maybe I need to go ahead and put in for a new liver !

Well according to the Trane service training people that need temperatures below 72 degrees generally have medical issues such as low heart rate, low blood pressure, poor blood circulation, thyroid issues as well as other blood disorders. They gave us pamphlets for people that desired temperatures out of the normal range that stated those results from surveys to help those people understand that the system were working properly. That they were asking the equipment do so something that it was not designed for and that if they required those types of temperatures that the system would have to be changed and upsized to accommodate their needs.

[Buzz]

A/C went out Sunday night after the storm blew through. First thing I thought and replaced was the capacitor. I keep a spare on hand because Johnstone wants $45 bucks and I can pick one up online for $15. I replaced it and nothing, kept messing with it, got it running and the fan would shut off when the house cooled down and not kick back on. Figured it had to be a bad connection so I took off the wire nuts and checked all the connections, it has been running fine ever since. Having said that, I have been wondering if I shouldn't cut off and redo all the connections? Do those wires corrode, system is 14 years old.

[MahiMike]

what a wimp. My office is 87 degrees.

[lewdog]

Once had the AC in our house were were renting go out mid day in July with temperatures at 115. House went from 78 degrees to 95 in 1.5 hours.

NEVER AGAIN.

[SAUTO]

In the summer It has to be cold for me to sleep, 68 and usually no covers. Two ceiling fans over me and a box fan running.


Winter 72 and fans

[Silock]

Yeah I would say so as well. A line drier costs $15 and a 100' coil of 3/8 copper is less than $100 at the supply house.
Everyone is selling freon like R-22 for about $35 - $40 a pound around here. While 410A is running $30-$35 a pound. It would take a 4 to 5 ton unit to coil a house that size unless it was made to the energy efficient standards of encapsulation. Either way I have never had to put more than 15 LBs in a residentual unit. Most the big ones are 10 to 12 lbs. Which I still don't understand why the refrigerant could not have been either backpumped into the outdoor or reclaimed and then put back into the unit unless the guy is just to small time to have all the proper equipment or he was just trying to make an extra buck.

Oh, it is definitely expensive and had a ton of markup. Some was reclaimed and the rest was filled. I'm sure I was overcharged. But I didn't have much of a choice. The dogs were starting to overheat, as well as the cats. Can't just load them up and take them to a hotel while we shop around.

I was prepared for it to be more expensive than necessary. Found that out last year when a company wanted $225 to install a humidistat that cost me $30 at Home Depot. That was something I could do and afford to wait on. This was not either of those.

[TribalElder]

7 years old. He said it's blocked. Gotta do some kind of new filter thing and recharge the system. $1400. Fun.

Edit : and clear the blockage obviously.

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Fly Food?

[Bugeater]

Oh, it is definitely expensive and had a ton of markup. Some was reclaimed and the rest was filled. I'm sure I was overcharged. But I didn't have much of a choice. The dogs were starting to overheat, as well as the cats. Can't just load them up and take them to a hotel while we shop around.

I was prepared for it to be more expensive than necessary. Found that out last year when a company wanted $225 to install a humidistat that cost me $30 at Home Depot. That was something I could do and afford to wait on. This was not either of those.
I'm more shocked at the contractor charging that much than you paying it. I could never gouge someone like that...I suppose that's why I should never try to run my own business.

And I could've easily fallen into something like that before I went to school for it, I love my AC. Heck I have 24/7 access to parts and equipment to make any repair outside of a failed compressor, and I still keep 2 window units on hand in the garage just in case that happens.

[Chief Roundup]

Oh, it is definitely expensive and had a ton of markup. Some was reclaimed and the rest was filled. I'm sure I was overcharged. But I didn't have much of a choice. The dogs were starting to overheat, as well as the cats. Can't just load them up and take them to a hotel while we shop around.

I was prepared for it to be more expensive than necessary. Found that out last year when a company wanted $225 to install a humidistat that cost me $30 at Home Depot. That was something I could do and afford to wait on. This was not either of those.

Yeah man they understand that people are not going to shop around and wait. If you have a nicer home the price goes up as well. It is wrong but it is the way a lot of people/companies operate. Prices can change according to where you live. Moral and Ethics in business is laughable.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Well according to the Trane service training people that need temperatures below 72 degrees generally have medical issues such as low heart rate, low blood pressure, poor blood circulation, thyroid issues as well as other blood disorders. They gave us pamphlets for people that desired temperatures out of the normal range that stated those results from surveys to help those people understand that the system were working properly. That they were asking the equipment do so something that it was not designed for and that if they required those types of temperatures that the system would have to be changed and upsized to accommodate their needs.

So you're saying my Liver is Good and I can have another beer ?!!!!!

[Chief Roundup]

So you're saying my Liver is Good ?!!!!!

I can neither confirm or deny your symptoms. My PhD is still in the mail.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I can neither confirm or deny your symptoms. My PhD is still in the mail.

Your post count is 6666 .I'm outta here !

[Buzz]

Chief Roundup, should I strip my wires, will this be an on going issue?

[Fairplay]

My condolences on your AC bill Silock. They sensed desperation in you and went for the kill.

[Chief Roundup]

Chief Roundup, should I strip my wires, will this be an on going issue?

You most certainly can. It won't hurt a thing as long as there is enough extra wire. Sometimes connections go bad for little to no reason. But no those connections should last for the life of the unit. Since the wires are the same type of metal there should not be corrosion. That doesn't mean they won't if they were to get damp or something of that nature. I have seen where you can just unplug and replug a connector and it fix issues the repair training called it a "dusty jack field", just saying it lost connection for an unexplainable or repeatable reason.

[Buzz]

Oh, and while I'm asking questions, do you burn off the crud and grass on the coils with a blow torch instead of washing it out with a hose?

[Fairplay]

On a side note this is our backup AC unit for the size of a bedroom it works fine.

Had to use it on occasion and would hate to sell it actually.

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[Chief Roundup]

Oh, and while I'm asking questions, do you burn off the crud and grass on the coils with a blow torch instead of washing it out with a hose?

Yeah that is the ticket. I am sure that thin aluminum can handle a torch. LOL
Seriously no to the torch yes to a water hose. You should try and spray from the inside out as it pulls air and debris from the outside in. Do not go across the aluminum fins or you may lay them over which will not allow the proper air movement. Go with the directions of the fins normally up and down. Do not use high pressure either as it can also damage the fins.

[Buzz]

Yeah that is the ticket. I am sure that thin aluminum can handle a torch. LOL
Seriously no to the torch yes to a water hose. You should try and spray from the inside out as it pulls air and debris from the outside in. Do not go across the aluminum fins or you may lay them over which will not allow the proper air movement. Go with the directions of the fins normally up and down. Do not use high pressure either as it can also damage the fins.

Thanks, neighbor had a tech tell him how to clean a unit doing this, I was skeptical. I'll stick to the hose.

[Buehler445]

Well according to the Trane service training people that need temperatures below 72 degrees generally have medical issues such as low heart rate, low blood pressure, poor blood circulation, thyroid issues as well as other blood disorders. They gave us pamphlets for people that desired temperatures out of the normal range that stated those results from surveys to help those people understand that the system were working properly. That they were asking the equipment do so something that it was not designed for and that if they required those types of temperatures that the system would have to be changed and upsized to accommodate their needs.

Pretty sure mine is just allergies. My nose is plugged 10 or so months out of the year and when it is I'm hot.

A/C went out Sunday night after the storm blew through. First thing I thought and replaced was the capacitor. I keep a spare on hand because Johnstone wants $45 bucks and I can pick one up online for $15. I replaced it and nothing, kept messing with it, got it running and the fan would shut off when the house cooled down and not kick back on. Figured it had to be a bad connection so I took off the wire nuts and checked all the connections, it has been running fine ever since. Having said that, I have been wondering if I shouldn't cut off and redo all the connections? Do those wires corrode, system is 14 years old.

I wouldn't unless you see corrosion.

[Psyko Tek]

Even with the fan blowing right on me, I'm sweating like crazy.

A/C guy will be here in 2.5 hours. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

buy ice lots put it in a cooler in front of a fan
I lost air in AZ 2 summers ago , it will get you to sleep at least

[lewdog]

I've got two AC units for my house. I can't wait to get bent over if they need repair or replacing. Both units are Carrier units that are 10 years old.

What's it cost to replace a leaking coil? What's the cost of replacing a whole unit?

[Buzz]

Pretty sure mine is just allergies. My nose is plugged 10 or so months out of the year and when it is I'm hot.



I wouldn't unless you see corrosion.

Hard to tell, gonna strip and reconnect anyway. I hate to keep tackling the same old problem over again. STAY DOWN BITCH!

[Buzz]

What's the cost of replacing a whole unit?

TOO DAMN MUCH! All the neighbors have replaced, me, I'm milking her for all she is worth.

[Chief Roundup]

I've got two AC units for my house. I can't wait to get bent over if they need repair or replacing. Both units are Carrier units that are 10 years old.

What's it cost to replace a leaking coil? What's the cost of replacing a whole unit?

Well if they are 10 years old they are probably using R-22. The refrigerant is getting extreme and they are not making R-22 units anymore. So if that is the case you should replace them with new units that are use 410A refrigerant.
There are variables that can make it more or less expensive. If they are 410A units then a coils swap is going to be around $1500 and should take less than 4 hours. But when these units get old and you start having problems compressors and other moving parts will also start to go out and start costing you several hundreds or just into the thousands easily. Sometimes it is better to have a warranty.
Now days they have these things engineered, like everything else, they know how long parts are going to normally last and that is how long they make the warranties for.
Oh and replacing the outdoor unit and air handler is going to run from $5k to 10K depending on size and ease of access.

[lewdog]

Well if they are 10 years old they are probably using R-22. The refrigerant is getting extreme and they are not making R-22 units anymore. So if that is the case you should replace them with new units that are use 410A refrigerant.
There are variables that can make it more or less expensive. If they are 410A units then a coils swap is going to be around $1500 and should take less than 4 hours. But when these units get old and you start having problems compressors and other moving parts will also start to go out and start costing you several hundreds or just into the thousands easily. Sometimes it is better to have a warranty.
Now days they have these things engineered, like everything else, they know how long parts are going to normally last and that is how long they make the warranties for.
Oh and replacing the outdoor unit and air handler is going to run from $5k to 10K depending on size and ease of access.

We don't have a warranty with these as we recently bought the house. One of the coils was replaced after the home inspector said the one zone wasn't cooling like it should. Cost the sellers 1,400 to replace it. Would you normally recommend a warranty for new equipment?

Seems AC units here are a crapshoot for how long they last. I hear the average is 10 or so years, but I've heard many people here going 15-20.

[lewdog]

Oh and replacing the outdoor unit and air handler is going to run from $5k to 10K depending on size and ease of access.

Oh Fuck Me! I am not sure of the size but one of ours is bigger than the other. I tried looking for the size on the outside units but couldn't find it.

[Buzz]

knock on wood.

[Chief Roundup]

We don't have a warranty with these as we recently bought the house. One of the coils was replaced after the home inspector said the one zone wasn't cooling like it should. Cost the sellers 1,400 to replace it. Would you normally recommend a warranty for new equipment?

Seems AC units here are a crapshoot for how long they last. I hear the average is 10 or so years, but I've heard many people here going 15-20.

All new equipment has a warranty as long as it was not purchased over the internet by a home owner.
Some units will last longer because they are better manufactured. Most parts, compressors, capacitors, coils, contactors, reversing valves only have a few different manufacturers such as GE or MARS.
Yes it definitely makes a difference in the quality of the installer as to longevity of your purchase.

[Buzz]

Compressor is my biggest fear right now.

[Bugeater]

We don't have a warranty with these as we recently bought the house. One of the coils was replaced after the home inspector said the one zone wasn't cooling like it should. Cost the sellers 1,400 to replace it. Would you normally recommend a warranty for new equipment?

Seems AC units here are a crapshoot for how long they last. I hear the average is 10 or so years, but I've heard many people here going 15-20.
At the apartment complex I worked at last year we had units that date back to the 60s & 70s.

[lewdog]

All new equipment has a warranty as long as it was not purchased over the internet by a home owner.
Some units will last longer because they are better manufactured. Most parts, compressors, capacitors, coils, contactors, reversing valves only have a few different manufacturers such as GE or MARS.
Yes it definitely makes a difference in the quality of the installer as to longevity of your purchase.


At the apartment complex I worked at last year we had units that date back to the 60s & 70s.


Good information. I'll be hitting you guys up whenever I have questions. I already hit Bug with some earlier this year that were pretty dumb!

I wonder if the lifespan here in Phoenix is shorter for units because...well it's hot as fuck here most of the year. We use the AC 8 months of the year here.

You know, if I have to replace these units, I think a trip from either one of you and a stay at lewdog's mansion for you to install some AC units would be a pretty cool deal!

[Bugeater]

Good information. I'll be hitting you guys up whenever I have questions. I already hit Bug with some earlier this year that were pretty dumb!

I wonder if the lifespan here in Phoenix is shorter for units because...well it's hot as fuck here most of the year. We use the AC 8 months of the year here.

You know, if I have to replace these units, I think a trip from either one of you and a stay at lewdog's mansion for you to install some AC units would be a pretty cool deal!

I actually don't do installs, I just keep old junk running. Better suck up to Chief Roundup, he's light years ahead of me in knowledge and experience anyway.

[lewdog]

I actually don't do installs, I just keep old junk running. Better suck up to Chief Roundup, he's light years ahead of me in knowledge and experience anyway.

I'll do my best to sweeten him up!

But I'd still like to share a beer with you someday Bug, even if you can't replace my AC. :D

[Bugeater]

I'll do my best to sweeten him up!

But I'd still like to share a beer with you someday Bug, even if you can't replace my AC. :D
Well if next winter is like last winter I may just randomly show up at your house sometime in January or February. With beer, of course.

[Chief Roundup]

Good information. I'll be hitting you guys up whenever I have questions. I already hit Bug with some earlier this year that were pretty dumb!

I wonder if the lifespan here in Phoenix is shorter for units because...well it's hot as **** here most of the year. We use the AC 8 months of the year here.

You know, if I have to replace these units, I think a trip from either one of you and a stay at lewdog's mansion for you to install some AC units would be a pretty cool deal!

Get me a job in about two years as an accountant or management, that is when I should graduate with my Bachelors and you got a deal.

[lewdog]

Well if next winter is like last winter I may just randomly show up at your house sometime in January or February. With beer, of course.

And you know you are always welcome if you ever end up in the desert for the hell of it! I'd even buy the beer.

Get me a job in about two years as an accountant or management, that is when I should graduate with my Bachelors and you got a deal.

What kind of management work are you thinking? What kind of degree will you have?

I work for a large senior care company here in Phoenix that specializes in Geriatric Rehabilitation with numerous building here and across the nation.