Law Enforcement claims they sent Ray Rice vid to NFL in April

[Archie F. Swin]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said they were unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.

The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until TMZ released it. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.

Goodell told CBS on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen a new video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.

"We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity," Goodell said.

In a memo to the NFL's 32 teams on Wednesday, Goodell said that the league asked law enforcement for the video, but not the casino. "In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline," he wrote.

The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version, and includes some audio.

Rice and Janay Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, "She's drunk, right?" And then, "No cops."

Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.

Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. He had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.

Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video.

[saphojunkie]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."



There's the smoking gun.

[tyler360]

Somebody is lying out their ass in all of this. I wonder who........

[Easy 6]

If this whole scandal is what it takes to shitcan Goodell, then that was the sweetest punch in the history of the NFL.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Can this get Goodell fired? Please?

[Jerm]

Kiss Goodell's ass goodbye....

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Kiss Goodell's ass goodbye....

He's going nowhere. The Giants owner came out today and said his job is safe.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The person played The AP a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming video arrived. A... <a href="http://t.co/X52dO2fcEq">http://t.co/X52dO2fcEq</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/509810747317448705">September 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Kiss Goodell's ass goodbye....

My God; that would be the best part of this entire season and torrid affair.

[Discuss Thrower]

NFL just denied receiving the tape.

Some hapless secretary or manager is about to be sacrificed to protect the Shield.

[Bufkin]

See ya Roger.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>NFL spokesman clarifies reference to &quot;anyone&quot; in that statement means &quot;anyone in our office,&quot; which is the phrase they&#39;ve been using.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/509811533598445568">September 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Jerm]

He's going nowhere. The Giants owner came out today and said his job is safe.

If this is true and they had the tape, there's not a chance in hell he makes it through this...

[Rain Man]

I saw the interview with Jon Harbaugh, and it was funny how he'd been prepared by the NFL. Right off the bat, he put in an extremely obvious, "It was the first time we had seen this ..." addition onto his response that was completely extraneous to the question. It was obvious that he had orders to say that, and he intentionally did it early to make sure he got it done.

[BigCatDaddy]

Goodell is just doing what the owners want. Replacing him isn't changing anything.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If it&#39;s illegal for law enforcement to turn over evidence of an ongoing investigation, somebody really went all W. Mark Felt here.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/509813187873882112">September 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source w/ intimate ties to NFL execs, says of report the NFL got Rice tape in April: &quot;If that&#39;s true, it&#39;s over for a few different people.&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/509813563775393792">September 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[notorious]

Acting incompetent is better then admitting guilt.


Politics 101

[jd1020]

Belongs in this http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=282940 thread /Goodell

[kcxiv]

This is the NFL, they dont do scandals. Godell is done. there is no way he makes it out. Its Karma though. There is a damned reason why he gets boo'ed all the time during the draft, no one likes his ass.

[Dayze]

I hope this brings the NFL to its knees. It would be glorious.

[notorious]

Once again, THE OWNERS CONTROL GODDELL.


Hate the owners, not the puppet.

[scho63]

Goodell may be joining Ray Rice on the "banned indefinitely" list!

[Discuss Thrower]

I'll bet my $7000 in casino cash that says, if there are any firing involved with ElevatorGate, that Goodell will not be one of them.

[Easy 6]

Once again, THE OWNERS CONTROL GODDELL.


Hate the owners, not the puppet.

But once a commish has his seat, does that mean he has to bow to their every whim?

[BigRedChief]

NFL just denied receiving the tape.

Some hapless secretary or manager is about to be sacrificed to protect the Shield.Yep, small fry sacrifice coming.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I hope this brings the NFL to its knees. It would be glorious.

My feeling exactly. This league has turned in to a bag of fucking suck.

[Simply Red]

SIGN DONALD TRUMP!!!!!

[notorious]

But once a commish has his seat, does that mean he has to bow to their every whim?

He better.

[eDave]

Some hapless secretary or manager is about to be sacrificed to protect the Shield.

Yup.

[Pablo]

LMAO

Goodell isn't going anywhere. Somebody else is falling on the sword and getting paid out nicely for it.

[notorious]

Protect "The Shield".

Give me a fucking break.

[Phobia]

Somebody is lying out their ass in all of this. I wonder who........
Follow the money.

[notorious]

I hope this brings the NFL to its knees. It would be glorious.

No, something will happen the week before a Chiefs Superbowl that exposes a huge conspiracy behind the NFL.


Because we are the Chiefs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

No, something will happen the week before a Chiefs Superbowl that exposes a huge conspiracy behind the NFL.


Because we are the Chiefs.

ROFL

[Simply Red]

I love this getting exposed - It's a very valuable lesson for other Ike T's out there.

[Dayze]

Lol. Seriously
...I could see that happening

[L.A. Chieffan]

Ive seen that fucing Goodell sitting in his fucking office at his desk spinning a fucking menorah

[Skyy God]

So Rice spit on her 2x? What a POS.

[nychief]

Roger Goodell has to go...and he will.

[notorious]

So Rice spit on her 2x? What a POS.

Whoa, I didn't know that.


Wow.

[hawkchief]

No, something will happen the week before a Chiefs Superbowl that exposes a huge conspiracy behind the NFL.


Because we are the Chiefs.

In 30 years?

[notorious]

In 30 years?


You are a "Glass is half-full" kind of guy.

[Chromatic]

http://i.minus.com/i1n0w5IGTs82t.gif

[Simply Red]

IDGI

[suzzer99]

Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to check the AP reporter's phone records. I would assume the NFL knows this.

[cosmo20002]

But once a commish has his seat, does that mean he has to bow to their every whim?

When you're hired by someone, don't you generally do what they tell you?

[cosmo20002]

Ive seen that fucing Goodell sitting in his ****ing office at his desk spinning a ****ing menorah

WTF?

[Easy 6]

When you're hired by someone, don't you generally do what they tell you?

To be honest I'm not entirely sure how it works with the NFL, I should've said that when replying to notorious... is he there for a set term or do the owners actually have the right to terminate him at any time?

[Strongside]

Buh-Bye Goodell, you fuck tard piece of shit.

[nychief]

Amazing thing is that Goodell will go away... but Rice might play again.

[Mr. Laz]

let all the Goodell hate flow ...............

[MotherfuckerJones]

I called this bs the second the video "leaked" to the NFL. Goodell is a fucking idiot and a liar. The team and the NFL received so much backlash that it had to release him and suspend him indefinitely in order to save face. Which it hasn't. But doesn't matter the NFL is so popular.

[Rausch]

Amazing thing is that Goodell will go away... but Rice might play again.

Rice was pretty much done anyway...

[GoChargers]

Goodell should be fired. In fact, he should have been fired years ago when he destroyed the Spygate tapes. But the owners will rally around him and make sure he keeps his job after yet another scandal simply because he kisses their asses for a living.

[GoChargers]

This is the NFL, they dont do scandals. Godell is done.
Goodell survived Spygate and Bountygate. Not even the CTE/concussion scandal was enough to get him canned. Sadly, that piece of crap will still get to run the NFL into the ground undeterred.

[cosmo20002]

To be honest I'm not entirely sure how it works with the NFL, I should've said that when replying to notorious... is he there for a set term or do the owners actually have the right to terminate him at any time?

He's not a US Senator.
They hired him, of course they can terminate him any time.

[SAUTO]

Whoa, I didn't know that.


Wow.

Pretty sure she spit on him.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Skyy God]

Pretty sure she spit on him.
Posted via Mobile Device

Nah. Casino source with access to HQ video said it was the other way around.

[SAUTO]

Nah. Casino source with access to HQ video said it was the other way around.

The article says it was her...

Got a link to the other way around?
Posted via Mobile Device

[Skyy God]

The article says it was her...

Got a link to the other way around?
Posted via Mobile Device

Source was ESPN News with slow mo, blown up video.

[SAUTO]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said they were unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.

The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until TMZ released it. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.

Goodell told CBS on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen a new video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.

"We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity," Goodell said.

In a memo to the NFL's 32 teams on Wednesday, Goodell said that the league asked law enforcement for the video, but not the casino. "In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline," he wrote.

The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version, and includes some audio.

Rice and Janay Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, "She's drunk, right?" And then, "No cops."

Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.

Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. He had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.

Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video..

[MMXcalibur]

I'm fully convinced that the NFL doesn't rig its games or get involved with conspiracies for or against teams, because they can't cover up shit.

[TripleThreat]

So this video that emerged, isn't the reason that Rice was suspended for two games in the first place?

Is this elevator thing a completely different situation and incident from the one that resulted in the two day ban from this year?

IMO, if this is the same incident for why he was suspended for two games, I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.. The video looks bad no doubt and uncalled, but isn't this what Rice and his fiancée said what happened and so he was punished for it? Or did they leave all of this dragging and hitting her out of there conversations with the NFL?

[Strongside]

So this video that emerged, isn't the reason that Rice was suspended for two games in the first place?

Is this elevator thing a completely different situation and incident from the one that resulted in the two day ban from this year?

IMO, if this is the same incident for why he was suspended for two games, I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.. The video looks bad no doubt and uncalled, but isn't this what Rice and his fiancée said what happened and so he was punished for it? Or did they leave all of this dragging and hitting her out of there conversations with the NFL?

That's where all of the uproar is coming from. It's double-jeopardy. The NFL had all of the information they needed to make this kind of judgement the first time around. They're now trying to cover their own asses, but are just digging themselves into a deeper hole. While you couldn't see the punch in the other video, the fact that he socked her was in the police report. That should have been enough. Now that the NFL has been outed for lying about receiving or having access to the in-elevator video, some heads are gonna roll I think.

[BigRedChief]

I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.Come on man. Really!!??!!Really!!!??!!???

You see no difference between the first video and the second video? Are you trying to say that? Thats your position?

[Red Dawg]

We lets see now. He claims the Pats videos were burned and were not worth watching anyway during spygate and now this. Roger no doubt is cover up artist that does what has to be done to protect the NFL brand.

He is a liar.

[Archie F. Swin]

Could Rice parlay this into a boxing career?

[GoChargers]

I'm fully convinced that the NFL doesn't rig its games or get involved with conspiracies for or against teams, because they can't cover up shit.

They sure covered up those Spygate tapes nicely... they almost got away with this cover-up too until TMZ somehow got a hold of the tape.

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Come on man. Really!!??!!Really!!!??!!???

You see no difference between the first video and the second video? Are you trying to say that? Thats your position?
Because he wasn't suspended for pulling her out of an elevator. He assaulted her. The difference is he was punished already for what had happened in video 2. Regardless of if the public saw it or if it was a strict enough punishment to begin with.

if he gets longer than a 2 or 6 game suspension this year then he would have a good case to sue the nfl because this is allegedly his first offense. Domestic abuse in a private home, with no camera, isn't better than doing it on camera.

[Easy 6]

Could Rice parlay this into a boxing career?

NO.

But WWE?, oh yeah... he'd be the perfect heel kicking the shit out of chick wrestlers.

[kccrow]

The NFL is full of hypocrites. I could see if the followed their new policy and upped the suspension to 6 games for a first offense, but what the NFL did with this was ridiculously hypocritical. Why set a standard and then not follow it? Typical Goodell............

[Marcellus]

You will never prove that Goodell himself watched the tape.

Thinking he is going to lose his job over this is laughable.

[Marcellus]

IN all honesty its getting blown out of proportion anyway.

I don't see why anyone gives a fuck if he did see it before but decided to use it as new evidence to give Rice the boot. Fuck Ray Rice I don't care.

[Dayze]

all I know is, I hope this moves the draft back to Saturday and Sunday

[BigRedChief]

Because he wasn't suspended for pulling her out of an elevator. He assaulted her. The difference is he was punished already for what had happened in video 2. Regardless of if the public saw it or if it was a strict enough punishment to begin with.

if he gets longer than a 2 or 6 game suspension this year then he would have a good case to sue the nfl because this is allegedly his first offense. Domestic abuse in a private home, with no camera, isn't better than doing it on camera.This isn't a court of law. There is no double jeporady. This is a private business that relies on the public to purchase their product. 50% of their business is women. Everyone has a mom, sister or wife/GF.

People were upset at the punishment. Then the indifference shocked people. The PR machine was initiated. I'm not saying everything is kosher. All I'm saying that after the 2nd video became public, people became more upset than the first video. They have to do something. Back to the point, they rely on the public and the public is upset.

[In58men]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/10/deed797210c578de147ee42c91b19051.jpg

[Dayze]

LMAO
Damn.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

I saw the interview with Jon Harbaugh, and it was funny how he'd been prepared by the NFL. Right off the bat, he put in an extremely obvious, "It was the first time we had seen this ..." addition onto his response that was completely extraneous to the question. It was obvious that he had orders to say that, and he intentionally did it early to make sure he got it done.

EXACTLY!! I thought the same thing immediately when I saw it. You could tell everyone involved who did any interviews was coached up on the "first time we saw it" talking-point. Now I see the FBI will investigate, which is about as credible as having the KKK investigate the Nazis.

[Dayze]

ESPN: Coach, how do you think your team is handling the QB / Center exchange?

Harbaugh: "it's the first time we had seen this......wait, what was the question"....

[mdchiefsfan]

Dance puppets, dance!!


I am sure this was the contingency plan if it were to get leaked; we are just watching the play unfold.

[BlackOp]

This whole situation is getting more and more annoying...they have been together for 10 years. He went into counseling, lost endorsements/millions and was publicly humiliated BEFORE that parasitic TMZ cancer used it to exploit for their own profit. Isn't that what one would hope would happen...admit there is a problem and take steps to correct it. Is the concept of redemption dead..people **** up.

It appears to me..that they were on their way to learn from it. I mean..she married him after the incident. Her father forgave him..and he showed remorse. From what I can tell...that is what you do when something like this happens..fix it...and move on with your life. Retards on the internet wont leave them alone...its a pile on from a bunch of no-life PC correct drone assholes...that turn a blind eye to their own short comings. No one knows these people on an individual basis...

They want to cheer for a violent, barbaric sport....the irony is rich...in all of its glorious digital detachment.

The more this shitstorm unfolds...the more Rice is starting to look like a victim of the NFL PR profit machine. Its amazing to watch these roaches squirm when the light is shown on them. Rice ****ed up..but that's between he and his wife..and they were moving to correct it on a personal level. He paid the price....this is getting over-the top though. Its layer after layer of complete horseshit...

[mdchiefsfan]

This whole situation is getting more and more annoying...they have been together for 10 years. He went into counseling, lost endorsements/millions and was publicly humiliated BEFORE that parasitic TMZ cancer used it to exploit for their own profit. Isn't that what one would hope would happen...admit there is a problem and take steps to correct it. Is the concept of redemption dead..people **** up.

It appears to me..that they were on their way to learn from it. I mean..she married him after the incident. Her father forgave him..and he showed remorse. From what I can tell...that is what you do when something like this happens..fix it...and move on with your life. Retards on the internet wont leave them alone...its a pile on from a bunch of no-life PC correct drone assholes...that turn a blind eye to their own short comings. No one knows these people on an individual basis...

They want to cheer for a violent, barbaric sport....the irony is rich...in all of its glorious digital detachment.

First of all, I complete agree with your post and repped you for it, but the fury here, I believe, lies with the NFLs handling of the situation, not with Rice.

[BlackOp]

First of all, I complete agree with your post and repped you for it, but the fury here, I believe, lies with the NFLs handling of the situation, not with Rice.

They are making Rice a fall guy...they ****ing knew. It makes it even more insidious... to ruin the guys life/family after the fact to deflect blame. What was Rice supposed to do...ban himself for 8 games? These people suck..and are horrible human beings.

What I think happened was Goddell got wind of the potential for the video to be leaked. That is why he made the statement that they were "too light" on Rice and changed the policy. This was before TMZ aired it..it was preemptive damage control. His lying ass is caught in the cross-hairs...he's a sociopath.

He and the Ravens are caught straight up lying...and it gets even dirtier by crucifying Rice for their manipulative profit driven bullshit.

[mdchiefsfan]

They are making Rice a fall guy...they ****ing knew. It makes even more insidious... to ruin the guys life/family after the fact to deflect blame.

What I think happened was Goddell got wind of the potential for the video to be leaked. That is why he made the statement that they were "too light" on Rice and changed the policy. This was before TMZ aired it..it was preemptive damage control. His lying ass is caught in the cross-hairs...he's a sociopath.

Someone else is going to be the fall guys for this. They weren't expecting AP to uncover this part of it, so as more breaks, more will lose their job. Meanwhile GODell keeps his cozy office as he maintains chains of custody, of these types of items, away from himself.

[BlackOp]

We'll see...this cluster**** isnt going away. I'm not sure how a high ranking NFL employee..could receive a dvd..and no one knew about it. They are banking on people being stupid..I guess.

My prediction..Goddell gets fired. I cant see a spin out of this...Im curious of the blow-back to The Ravens organization. They will say they did what they were told..

[mdchiefsfan]

We'll see...this cluster**** isnt going away. I'm not sure how a high ranking NFL employee..could receive a dvd..and no one knew about it. They are banking on people being stupid..I guess.

My prediction..Goddell gets fired. I cant see a spin out of this...Im curious of the blow-back to The Ravens organization. They will say they did what they were told..

The spin out of it is a high ranking person gets fired (early retirement), but is highly paid to keep their trap shut. More or less a settlement. There is also a contract given, pending on that settlement, that will more or less state the employee can't discuss previous actions during their employment.

Money greases these wheels quite easily.

[kcxiv]

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Love him or Hate him like most people. Olberman was spot on.

[Direckshun]

I think Goddell has to go. The credibility of the NFL has reached an all time low, not all entirely due to his fault, but this story is a back-breaker all by itself.

[Hoopsdoc]

IN all honesty its getting blown out of proportion anyway.

I don't see why anyone gives a **** if he did see it before but decided to use it as new evidence to give Rice the boot. **** Ray Rice I don't care.

Agreed. While what Rice did is despicable, it feels like a whole lot of grandstanding is going on right now. People saying they hope this brings the NFL to its knees.

Why? I love the NFL. I couldn't care less about Goodell but I LOVE my football.

I listened to about 10 seconds of Olbermann blathering about it and almost got sick to my stomach.

Again, I am in no way condoning what Rice did, I just think its gone a little to far by now.

[Chiefnj2]

This is all a digusting dong and pony show. The media and all of their fake outrage. Give me a break - you don't care about domestic violence. Not one damn bit.

Greg Hardy was found guilty in a court of law of assaulting his girl friend and threatening to kill her.

You know where Greg was last Sunday? Sacking Tampa Bay's QB and making a few million dollars. Where's the outrage, the protests, the finger pointing? Oh that's right, there is no video, so nobody cares. Not as many ratings when there isn't a video.

[Marcellus]

First of all, I complete agree with your post and repped you for it, but the fury here, I believe, lies with the NFLs handling of the situation, not with Rice.

Which is ridiculous when you consider not one person has a reason to have a beef with how this was handled besides Ray Rice and his wife.

WTF do you care? Its football, its a private business. This isn't our govt or really anything that effects you in any way shape or form.

This is another example of media creating outrage where there has at worst been a lie committed to fix a previous mistake.

[mdchiefsfan]

Which is ridiculous when you consider not one person has a reason to have a beef with how this was handled besides Ray Rice and his wife.

WTF do you care? Its football, its a private business. This isn't our govt or really anything that effects you in any way shape or form.

This is another example of media creating outrage where there has at worst been a lie committed to fix a previous mistake.

Because I can't stand reactionary bullshit. Be a straight up man and do what is right. The fact that he is blatantly lying to the public's face kind of infuriated me, like we are too stupid to put two and two together, and for what? To dish out a 2 game suspension instead of 4?

The business you conduct is directly related to the person; he's a liar. What does that say?

[beach tribe]

I'm fully convinced that the NFL doesn't rig its games or get involved with conspiracies for or against teams, because they can't cover up shit.

Seriously.

They can't cover this up, and people think they can keep the biggest secret in the history of sports.

[Oxford]

"What did he know, and when did he know it" caused a sitting president to resign. It's the coverup....... always......always......always. When does Gooddells contract expire? He'll retire quietly on his millions and someone from outside the NFL will be brought in to restore credibility. Or in the tradition of any good conspiracy plot, he'll have a heart-attack and fall face first into his soup.