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Deberg_1990
09-20-2014, 10:41 PM
Yes!


http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article2184018.html



Nobody with the Chiefs will say this. Nobody with the Chiefs should say this. Even privately, even on a barstool, you would not hear anyone with the Chiefs say this. But it is true all the same.

The Chiefs, as a playoff team, are done.

This is as much of a certainty as anything can be in the NFL. All week you’ve heard people reference that teams starting 0-2 make the playoffs just 12 percent of the time.

That’s bad enough, but it’s actually worse than that. Since the current division and scheduling formats began in 2002, just nine of 100 teams have made the playoffs after starting 0-2.

These Chiefs, of course, will play the rest of the season without All-Pro linebacker Derrick Johnson and Mike DeVito. Jamaal Charles, at best, will play hurt here on Sunday. Eric Berry is out, and after the Dolphins come the Patriots at home next Monday, then road games against the 49ers and Chargers.

The tougher schedule and the time-honored NFL pattern of teams falling back the year after big jumps mean history gives the Chiefs virtually no chance of making the playoffs this season.

And even if they can’t say that — heck, even if they can’t think it — quite yet, it does help inform the way smart fans will watch and digest the rest of the season.

Fans and coaches don’t like to say “rebuilding,” but if done the right way it can be the best thing for a franchise long-term — especially when the context is already set against immediate success.

This approach can feel like a bad thing, or the Chiefs can turn it into a good thing. Because a losing season doesn’t have to be a lost season.

So much can happen between now and then, obviously, but the Chiefs have a chance to be very good in 2015. They’ll have an abundance of draft picks, and their classes from this and last year should be maturing. Even if it’s at the expense of the short-term, they should be doing everything possible to take advantage of their long-term prospects.

Football people often talk in terms of progress. Correct mistakes. Get a little better each day. Make every rep count. And so on. In seasons where teams are all-in for the Super Bowl, the future is never far from the minds of coaches and other decision-makers. The Chiefs can amplify that approach.

Officially, teams often wait until at least midseason to make judgments about whether they are playing for the postseason or playing for the next year. The Chiefs can get ahead on that, and it doesn’t turn this season meaningless. If anything, it will give the coming weeks and months more importance to the enduring plan.

In particular, they have a unique chance to see what they truly have with their quarterback. Alex Smith will be tested in ways the Chiefs did not expect before the season. Even if Charles doesn’t miss a game, the Chiefs have a makeshift offensive line and an injured defense likely to need more support. Smith will be pushed to his limits, coaches and executives able to see in real time where improvements are most needed to help their large investment in dollars and draft picks.

The Chiefs are committed to Eric Fisher, but can use this season to not only track progress toward being a good left tackle — and he’s showing signs of that — but make the specific technique and strength improvements needed to play the offensive line’s most demanding position.

Dwayne Bowe is now essentially on a 14-game tryout for 2015. He played last season out of shape and ineffective, no matter how often the Chiefs praised his blocking. Both inside and outside the organization, it is not seen as a coincidence that Bowe’s production dipped after signing that big contract and that he hired a team to help get in — wait for it — the best shape of his life this year.

The biggest salary (and cap hit) of that contract is due next year, and because of his suspension that money is no longer guaranteed. Depending on how he plays this year, the Chiefs could to ask him to take a pay cut or worse.

The Chiefs also have decisions to make on defense. Some of that is strategic, like figuring out the best ways to use Berry’s unique and versatile skill set. Some of that is personnel, like figuring out how much they can count on Marcus Cooper, how well Sean Smith maintains focus, how Ron Parker does with more snaps at safety, and how far Phillip Gaines progresses.

This season may end up as the perfect transition for Dee Ford, too. Like Gaines, Ford hasn’t played much yet, but that should change as we move along.

The Chiefs love Ford’s physical gifts — particularly his first burst — as well as his metabolism for work and commitment to football. But there is a mental evolution required here, one that Ford acknowledges, and the team hopes that being able to come along in bites and swallows will make for a better long-term product.

It’s especially important for them to be right with Ford, because Tamba Hali (nearly $12 million cap hit for 2015) is almost sure to be cut.

Assuming the Chiefs work out a contract extension with Justin Houston, getting Ford and the secondary in good places become the Chiefs’ most critical urgencies on defense.

The Chiefs are in a tough position this season, already. The coaches — and especially the players — can’t be openly prioritizing 2015 when they’re just two weeks into 2014. But the front office and scouting staff can start to think that way, to make sure they use this season to best position themselves for next year.

They don’t have to publicly say “rebuilding.” But the more they can use this season to position themselves for the future, the better they’ll be when the winds of the NFL are more in their favor.

This can be a losing season without it being lost.

L.A. Chieffan
09-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Alex deserves a mulligan this year. So does Dorsey

notorious
09-20-2014, 10:44 PM
I.......actually agree.

cdcox
09-20-2014, 10:48 PM
After reading that, I wish this were a Deberg thread.

staylor26
09-20-2014, 11:00 PM
I agree. Let's get another top 10 pick and those comp picks. We can do some damage. The thing about Dorsey is he swings for the fences on upside with just about every pick so the opportunity is there for a great offseason.

notorious
09-20-2014, 11:01 PM
I want to see what some of our young guys can do.

Why trot Hali and our other vets out there for a lost cause?

kcxiv
09-20-2014, 11:06 PM
Whats worse is we arent even rebuilding, YOu cant rebuild if you dont have one of them special kind of quarterbacks. Thats what makes this shit so depressing. The rebuild will actually begin when they replace Smith.

So, we got about 5 more years before anythign special can even think about happening.

staylor26
09-20-2014, 11:08 PM
Whats worse is we arent even rebuilding, YOu cant rebuild if you dont have one of them special kind of quarterbacks. Thats what makes this shit so depressing. The rebuild will actually begin when they replace Smith.

So, we got about 5 more years before anythign special can even think about happening.

You can win with young QB's in todays NFL so I disagree. Actually best case scenario is you build a great team then win with a good young QB on a rookie contract.

In58men
09-20-2014, 11:11 PM
He's right, we need the easiest schedule possible to have any hope. Let's just try when Manning and Brady retires. Those guys are tough.

kcxiv
09-20-2014, 11:18 PM
You can win with young QB's in todays NFL so I disagree. Actually best case scenario is you build a great team then win with a good young QB on a rookie contract.

This is the ****ing Chiefs we are talking about. lol You can shave maybe 1 year off that. Its still pretty sad.

Discuss Thrower
09-21-2014, 12:28 AM
......... Should have been the fucking story in 2013.

MotherfuckerJones
09-21-2014, 12:33 AM
Good now go 0-16

bevischief
09-21-2014, 12:37 AM
Sucked the big one he did...

Direckshun
09-21-2014, 12:58 AM
This is a perfect article.

* Get Kelce as many snaps a possible.
* Get LDT or Kush on the field at LG.
* Do everything you can to spare Poe this season, and see what you've got with Vickerson, Howard, Walker, Bailey, and Catapano.
* Play JMJ 100% of the snaps for the rest of the season.
* Play Cooper 100% of the snaps for the rest of the season.
* Give Santos as many kicks as possible for the rest of the season.

kcxiv
09-21-2014, 03:52 AM
haha, on the actual kc star page, a guy asks what's the Chiefs organization and the KC Star preparing us for. I said, "Nothing, its the same as it ever was". which is true. lol

milkman
09-21-2014, 04:12 AM
The last 40+ seasons have been lost.

Why change things now, Sam?

the Talking Can
09-21-2014, 04:31 AM
so this is why we signed smith


chiefs doing it wrong for 4 decades

Chiefnj2
09-21-2014, 06:02 AM
What do people agree with? KC has no choice but to suck this year and play young guys because that's all they have. Shitty drafting, bad contracts, free agency-thumb-in-ass and injuries landed the Chiefs in this situation.

Hoover
09-21-2014, 06:11 AM
That might be on of the best articles I've read on the Chiefs this year.

Hoover
09-21-2014, 06:12 AM
This is a perfect article.

* Get Kelce as many snaps a possible.
* Get LDT or Kush on the field at LG.
* Do everything you can to spare Poe this season, and see what you've got with Vickerson, Howard, Walker, Bailey, and Catapano.
* Play JMJ 100% of the snaps for the rest of the season.
* Play Cooper 100% of the snaps for the rest of the season.
* Give Santos as many kicks as possible for the rest of the season.

All of this makes a ton of sense.

milkman
09-21-2014, 06:23 AM
That might be on of the best articles I've read on the Chiefs this year.

Of course it is.

Getting smoke blown up your ass is just all kinds of entertaining for you.

J Diddy
09-21-2014, 06:25 AM
so this is why we signed smith


chiefs doing it wrong for 4 decades

It's like 5 now, isn't it?

RealSNR
09-21-2014, 06:29 AM
......... Should have been the fucking story in 2013.

Aye

Coochie liquor
09-21-2014, 06:31 AM
Of course it is.

Getting smoke blown up your ass is just all kinds of entertaining for you.

Is it pot smoke?

Rausch
09-21-2014, 06:57 AM
Dorsey says we don't need to rebuild after being the worst team in the league with the no 1 pick.

After making the playoffs it's time to $3it-can everyone and start over.

What...the...fuck...

Red Dawg
09-21-2014, 07:06 AM
May as well do what is best for next year. We may win today but so what. The next three we are a dead ducks and Reid is not so stupid to think other wise. If JC plays today it would be a bad move seeing how he is not 100% and the season is one for experiment.

Rausch
09-21-2014, 07:16 AM
May as well do what is best for next year. We may win today but so what. The next three we are a dead ducks and Reid is not so stupid to think other wise. If JC plays today it would be a bad move seeing how he is not 100% and the season is one for experiment.

Might as well let Charles eat nachos the rest of the year...

O.city
09-21-2014, 07:25 AM
Dorsey says we don't need to rebuild after being the worst team in the league with the no 1 pick.

After making the playoffs it's time to $3it-can everyone and start over.

What...the...****...

He was told by management to get asses in the seats quick.

3rd Quarter 38-10
09-21-2014, 07:38 AM
In short, there is always next year. The problem with that line of thinking is, even if everything falls into place perfectly, do you think this team will be able to compete with the Broncos and Chargers next year? Or are we really saying; there is always the year after next year.

Jerok
09-21-2014, 07:45 AM
Four years ago, I thought "There is always next year"
Three years ago, I thought "There is always next year"
Two years ago, I thought "There is always next year"
Last year, I thought "There is always next year"
This year, I think "There is always next year"

Because Chiefs.

Rasputin
09-21-2014, 07:59 AM
It's a lost season if we don't draft a fucking quarterback early in the 2015 draft.


Don't say this is a "rebuilding year" with a retread quarterback.

tredadda
09-21-2014, 08:05 AM
Might as well let Charles eat nachos the rest of the year...

Fantasy fans would hate you if that happened. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-21-2014, 08:18 AM
haha, on the actual kc star page, a guy asks what's the Chiefs organization and the KC Star preparing us for. I said, "Nothing, its the same as it ever was". which is true. lol

As it will be when they get a high pick and do anything and everything except take a shot on Mariota or Hundley.

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-21-2014, 08:19 AM
WAIT NOW, Chiefs fans!

Ass-backwards be thy name.

ViperVisor
09-21-2014, 08:19 AM
The Colts had a fail season in 2001 going 6-10. Allowed them to get a piece they were missing Dwight Freeney.

If he wasn't hurt in the Super Bowl Colts might of won 2. Brees dropped back 40 times and they sacked him once and hit him once both were Freeney who was playing with a bum ankle.

Shaid
09-21-2014, 08:22 AM
After reading that, I wish this were a Deberg thread.

LMAO

Bob Dole
09-21-2014, 08:23 AM
All of this makes a ton of sense.

Which means it is not likely to happen.

Saccopoo
09-21-2014, 09:41 AM
In short, there is always next year. The problem with that line of thinking is, even if everything falls into place perfectly, do you think this team will be able to compete with the Broncos and Chargers next year? Or are we really saying; there is always the year after next year.

They competed with the Broncos last week in Denver with half the team on IR.

Yeah, they can compete with the Broncos.

This isn't a bad team. It's actually a borderline pretty good team if everything as it stands is in place and they could be a pretty solid playoff team if they could shore up the CB and WR positions.

Wildcat2005
09-21-2014, 09:58 AM
They competed with the Broncos last week in Denver with half the team on IR.

Yeah, they can compete with the Broncos.

This isn't a bad team. It's actually a borderline pretty good team if everything as it stands is in place and they could be a pretty solid playoff team if they could shore up the CB and WR positions.

so they can compete with the Broncos but not the Titans?

J Diddy
09-21-2014, 10:00 AM
so they can compete with the Broncos but not the Titans?

The fear of Succop was too much to overcome.

Ming the Merciless
09-21-2014, 10:01 AM
too bad most of these dumbasses weren't saying this in march

maybe then I would respect it...

but to say this now is hindsight at best

Easy 6
09-21-2014, 10:04 AM
I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet, today and next week will decide which way I go.

Chief Roundup
09-21-2014, 12:28 PM
There is those pesky little words that some around here don't like. History, chances, odds, probability.
It isn't like those matter or anything. Everything is different now. :rolleyes: idiots.

Simply Red
09-21-2014, 12:30 PM
The last 40+ seasons have been lost.

Why change things now, Sam?

yup.

Simply Red
09-21-2014, 12:33 PM
Lookin good guys! :clap:

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-21-2014, 12:33 PM
There is those pesky little words that some around here don't like. History, chances, odds, probability.
It isn't like those matter or anything. Everything is different now. :rolleyes: idiots.

Yep. Dumbest take ever in the history of Chiefs fandom.

Hope, under the way this franchise pisses down it's leg, does NOT "spring eternal".

GoShox
09-21-2014, 12:33 PM
Fantasy fans would hate you if that happened. ROFL

That makes it all the more tempting.

Mr. Laz
09-21-2014, 01:47 PM
This can be a losing season without it being lost.

Welcome to the mantra of a loser organization.


translation 'wait until next year'


fuck you

Easy 6
09-21-2014, 01:54 PM
Welcome to the mantra of a loser organization.


translation 'wait until next year'


**** you

Agreed, I didnt care for Mellinger trying to give me the softshoe about a losing season... I'm not going to accept it.

Hog's Gone Fishin
09-21-2014, 02:07 PM
Aw shit guys, we could still be 14-2 this season.

Hammock Parties
09-21-2014, 02:08 PM
Mellinger loves to suck off the FO.

The regime is flawed and he should be calling them out for it.