Dee Ford wants nothing to do with Frank Gore

[Stanley Nickels]

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[Discuss Thrower]

Because....

[Stanley Nickels]

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[jd1020]

Damnit, it's not embedding properly. Click the damn link: https://vine.co/v/OKiD0nEJ1Tj/embed

I see it fine.

[New World Order]

I'm glad we picked him over Teddy Bridgewater.

[Mr. Laz]

yea, i saw that.

Sean Smith backed away from tackles a couple of times too.

[Buzz]

Defensive line didn't get it done today, that's all I have to say about that. Forest / Forest Gump.

[kccrow]

The obvious reason I never wanted KC to draft that overrated fucking turd to begin with. If he isn't getting his shit pushed in against the run, he's running towards the endzone faster than the running back.

[Mr. Laz]

wrong thread

[CoMoChief]

Their Oline is good, and they took it to KC's Dline.

We were doing the same god damn thing to them until Andy Reid got a squirrel up his ass and started to be cute w/ the gameplan.

Why didn't we just do what we did against MIA and NE? We have a 2-headed monster in the backfield and we can run over anyone in the NFL but we choose to dink n dunk short - intermediate passing all game long to a group of subpar WR's.

Why go away from what this team does well. That's hammering the football down the other team's mouth and get the rock into Charles' hands as much as humanly possible. Shit put them both on the field together w/ Kelce and Bowe. Actually...

If Reid wants to get cute on offense and keep teams guessing...then all of the following need to be on the field together:

RB-Charles
RB-Davis
RB/WR-Thomas
TE-Kelce
WR-Bowe
QB-Smith
Oline(5)

[Easy 6]

When Zombo has more nuts than your #1... you're in trouble.

[notorious]

Looks like Andy Reid when he spots a salad.


Or a 4th and 1.

[dls6501]

Wow. I can't even......

Absolutely pathetic. What a bitch.

[kcxiv]

I never seen anything like that. He just didnt want anything to do with the running back. That should be automatic 1 game deactivate. lol Thats the most pathetic display i have seen.

[Sannyasi]

Can someone explain this to me? Did he get fooled somehow? How are you a professional linebacker who is afraid to tackle?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Probably just confused for whatever reason. I think he thought it was play-action

[jd1020]

Can someone explain this to me? Did he get fooled somehow? How are you a professional linebacker who is afraid to tackle?

The only thing I can think of beyond Ford being a complete fucking pussy, is that he thought Kaepernick still had the ball.

[J Diddy]

Can someone explain this to me? Did he get fooled somehow? How are you a professional linebacker who is afraid to tackle?

He looked like my dog when I get on his ass about getting in the trash. High tailing.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Yeah I think Kaep sold it well... Though the O-lineman blocking downfield should have been his first clue. A dumbass, not a pussy.

[Dave Lane]

I never seen anything like that. He just didnt want anything to do with the running back. That should be automatic 1 game deactivate. lol Thats the most pathetic display i have seen.

I've got to second that. WTF is that? How do you even describe it?

[WhawhaWhat]

ROFL

It's like he saw a ghost and had to get the fuck out of there.

[Dave Lane]

Yeah I think Kaep sold it well... Though the O-lineman blocking downfield should have been his first clue. A dumbass, not a pussy.

GREAT excuse. Any others in the bag?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

EDIT: Looking at it again, he had coverage responsibility for the strong side TE. I think he thought 46 might have gotten behind him and he didn't want to get beaten over the top.

Regardless, that's a pretty stupid play, even for a rookie.

[listopencil]

I've seen CB's do stuff like that to avoid contact but not front seven personnel. I would have to think that he had a giant brain fart while reading the play.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

GREAT excuse. Any others in the bag?

Haha. He may not be good, but nobody who made it this far would be that big of a pussy.

[Sannyasi]

I've seen CB's do stuff like that to avoid contact but not front seven personnel. I would have to think that he had a giant brain fart while reading the play.

I'm going to go with that. We all do stupid shit from time to time. Its just a bizarre thing to watch.

[GoShox]

Reminds me of this

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/675376/powe.0.gif

[OldSchool]

When I initially saw the play, I thought he had it locked down for 2 yards at the most cause Gore isn't very fast, and then the OLB responsible for contain spun away from the play like an idiot and I just put my hand to my face. Of course Ford would be in to screw up in run support when Hali would have made the play.

[jd1020]

Reminds me of this

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/675376/powe.0.gif

Wtf is that little kid doing on the field?

[OldSchool]

Wtf is that kid doing on the field (#7)?

Maybe he created himself and added himself to the game?

[TribalElder]

That's dee ford tuff

[OldSchool]

That was definitely a case of Ford being completely fooled on a play though, he starts to run one way and then realizes that everyone else is running in the opposite direction, forcing him to turn around.

[a pp roach]

Reminds me of this

http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/675376/powe.0.gif

ROFL

yeah. I was wondering what was going on there...it did look like some madden stuff going on. i guess that'll lose him some awareness points.

[Mav]

I'm glad we picked him over Teddy Bridgewater.
Or Kelvin Benjamin, or dennard

[Namor40]

This is all over the interwebs, Dee Ford going to have a hard time in the locker room this week. :D

[ghak99]

He just looks totally lost to me.

[KChiefs1]

yea, i saw that.

Sean Smith backed away from tackles a couple of times too.


A lot of pussies out there today.

[ChiefsFanatic]

He is lost on 10 plays for every good play he makes. Maybe he will be good in a few years, but as of now he is just a wasted 1st round draft pick, who may have been available in the 2nd

[Jakemall]

The only thing I can think of beyond Ford being a complete ****ing pussy, is that he thought Kaepernick still had the ball.

This.... and then it looks like he realizes he was wrong.

[Exoter175]

After watching this thing for god knows how long, I've got it figured out, and it took rewinding the DVR to truly get a grasp on it.

Dee Ford, for whatever reason, doesn't know Gore has the ball, looks back at Kaep on his rollout after the handoff, locks on to him flips around and then shortly realizes that he's ball-less, and flips back around.

Watch it more and more, and you'll see exactly what I mean.

However, what scares me ever so slightly is the fact that his entire team is heading the same direction, with the offensive line moving UP THE FIELD, and he flips around. Granted, that shit happens in the blink of an eye, but you're not going to have a PAP where the linemen are 3-4 yards up the field blocking people.

This goes as a mark against either his Awareness as a whole, or his utter lack of run game skill. I'm hoping we can chalk this down to his issues with the run game, though he hasn't done all that bad the last few games, but awareness, to me, is the scariest concern, if there is one.

However, I have a slight suspicion that on that particular play, and designed for this specific game, that almost every play Ford saw today, he was in charge of spying on the QB for containment. I'll rewatch the game this week to confirm/deny it, but I'm willing to bet quite a bit on Ford's snaps beeing pass rush/spy only in this game, which explains why he didn't play the run fully and allowed Gore 4-6 extra yards.

[ThaVirus]

Idk how you can play organized sports for 10+ years and have absolutely no clue how to follow the general flow of a given play.

That's bad.

[OldSchool]

Idk how you can play organized sports for 10+ years and have absolutely no clue how to follow the general flow of a given play.

That's bad.

Like I said, Ford looked lost out there during the pre-season. He looks even worse on this particular play because he could have stopped Gore well short of the first.

[Exoter175]

Like I said, Ford looked lost out there during the pre-season. He looks even worse on this particular play because he could have stopped Gore well short of the first.

But likely didn't want to break his commitment to SPY, which tells me either they are overloading his mental capacity for the game, or he's just uncomfortable out there playing a half ass ILB and situational rusher.

[Dave Lane]

After watching this thing for god knows how long, I've got it figured out, and it took rewinding the DVR to truly get a grasp on it.

Dee Ford, for whatever reason, doesn't know Gore has the ball, looks back at Kaep on his rollout after the handoff, locks on to him flips around and then shortly realizes that he's ball-less, and flips back around.

Watch it more and more, and you'll see exactly what I mean.

However, what scares me ever so slightly is the fact that his entire team is heading the same direction, with the offensive line moving UP THE FIELD, and he flips around. Granted, that shit happens in the blink of an eye, but you're not going to have a PAP where the linemen are 3-4 yards up the field blocking people.

This goes as a mark against either his Awareness as a whole, or his utter lack of run game skill. I'm hoping we can chalk this down to his issues with the run game, though he hasn't done all that bad the last few games, but awareness, to me, is the scariest concern, if there is one.

However, I have a slight suspicion that on that particular play, and designed for this specific game, that almost every play Ford saw today, he was in charge of spying on the QB for containment. I'll rewatch the game this week to confirm/deny it, but I'm willing to bet quite a bit on Ford's snaps beeing pass rush/spy only in this game, which explains why he didn't play the run fully and allowed Gore 4-6 extra yards.

Why the **** would you have Dee Ford spying on the QB? That's the stupidest football thought I ever heard whether it's you or Sutton that thought it up.

[temper11]

I don't understand what the hell I'm seeing here. I've watched it over and over and over, and I can't come up with anything as to WTF he is doing. He actually throws a block for Gore.

[Mr. Laz]

tbh i don't even think Ford knew where the ball was


he wasn't avoiding a hit, he was just stupid

[Rausch]

I never seen anything like that. He just didnt want anything to do with the running back. That should be automatic 1 game deactivate. lol Thats the most pathetic display i have seen.

This...

[Rausch]

Dee Ford, for whatever reason, doesn't know Gore has the ball, looks back at Kaep on his rollout after the handoff, locks on to him flips around and then shortly realizes that he's ball-less, and flips back around.

That's how it looked to me...

[Easy 6]

He didnt lose track of the ball, he wanted to tackle the guy 1 on 1 down the sideline instead of blasting in there against blockers like he should have.

It was a bitch move.

[rabblerouser]

Their Oline is good, and they took it to KC's Dline.

We were doing the same god damn thing to them until Andy Reid got a squirrel up his ass and started to be cute w/ the gameplan.

Why didn't we just do what we did against MIA and NE? We have a 2-headed monster in the backfield and we can run over anyone in the NFL but we choose to dink n dunk short - intermediate passing all game long to a group of subpar WR's.

Why go away from what this team does well. That's hammering the football down the other team's mouth and get the rock into Charles' hands as much as humanly possible. Shit put them both on the field together w/ Kelce and Bowe. Actually...

If Reid wants to get cute on offense and keep teams guessing...then all of the following need to be on the field together:

RB-Charles
RB-Davis
RB/WR-Thomas
TE-Kelce
WR-Bowe
QB-Smith
Oline(5)

Reid would call an option pass that would be intercepted.

[listopencil]

Now that I think about it, this is the kind of shit Von Miller was doing in the first few weeks of the season. It was driving me nuts and really pissing me off. It's one of those things they talk about when they say that the game has to slow down for you or that you have to get used to the speed of the game. It's a mental issue not a physical one. He's not a pussy, he's just stupid, if that helps.

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

I saw this live and could NOT believe it. Smith did basically the same thing on another play.

[Mr. Laz]

He didnt lose track of the ball, he wanted to tackle the guy 1 on 1 down the sideline instead of blasting in there against blockers like he should have.

It was a bitch move.
He was trying to cover 81

didn't know where the ball was

[InChiefsHeaven]

Geez. Wouldn't you like to be in the film room for that one??

[ghak99]

Idk how you can play organized sports for 10+ years and have absolutely no clue how to follow the general flow of a given play.

That's bad.

This was my first thought, but you can tell he's not playing... he's thinking. Which shows just how fucking lost he really is on this play.

Perhaps his mental capacity has been overloaded or he just needs more time for the game to slow down. Who knows, but I hope he gets it figured out as I love watching his first step.

[htismaqe]

He was trying to cover 81

didn't know where the ball was

This.

[Lzen]

Yeah, I remember saying WTF when I saw that live during the game. I'm pretty sure he was confused as to who had the ball. He is a rookie. They do that at times.

[ChiefRocka]

He was trying to cover 81

didn't know where the ball was

Thank you, I can't believe it took four pages for the truth to rear its ugly head.

Coaches have been drilling him in coverage for months so he's worried about not farking it up and looks like a dummy farking it up. Just early career woes for a future baller.

[Steron]

I saw that during the game and was like "What. The.Flying.Fistfuck!" Pussy ass bitch.

Tamba thumped Gore a good shot.

[KC Hawks]

Anyone know how Dennard is doing in Cincinnati?

[Iconic]

Considering we were playing SF and he's a rookie it's reasonable to assume he thought it was PA.

[JENKINSWINS]

Probably just confused for whatever reason. I think he thought it was play-action

There was a fake end around to a WR that was motioning before the snap.

Very similar to this play…

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000403156/Davis-bursts-for-48-yards

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Looks like Andy Reid when he spots a salad.


Or a 4th and 1.

ROFL:LOL:

[Bufkin]

That's hilarious. I can't fathom his reasoning. Maybe that's on the DC.

[Bufkin]

Here's a better question. How the flippity fuck does Dee Ford not have 1 tackle? Shouldn't he have accidentally run into a player 10 yards down the field by now? I get it, he's not a starter and only comes in the game minimally. With that said, dafuq?

[RealSNR]

Justin Houston had an embarrassing coverage play in one of his first preseason games. It was pretty bad, and I thought, "Ehh... the dude has a LOT to learn before he does shit for us."

But holy fuck. That does NOT compare to this Dee Ford play. If Justin Houston had some studying and practicing to do as a rookie, then Dee Ford would be better off using his rookie paychecks to fund scientific research for brain transplants. Or maybe he could fund time travel research so he could travel back and tell himself to actually learn how to play fucking football in college.

In any case, he doesn't look like an heir to Tamba Hali's starting spot. He looks like a fucking CHUMP.

Like, what are we still getting excited about with this guy? His great first step?

You know who else had a great first step? R-Kal Truluck. And how'd THAT shit work out for us? Fuck, at least Truluck didn't cost us a 1st round pick.

[bshmerlie]

Come on....was he doing this crap in college? What happens to their brains when they get in the NFL?

[Shaid]

My exact words when I saw this during the game.

"Who the fuck is that piece of shit? Oh, Dee Ford. Fucking pile of shit rookie."

[BigMeatballDave]

Justin Houston had an embarrassing coverage play in one of his first preseason games. It was pretty bad, and I thought, "Ehh... the dude has a LOT to learn before he does shit for us."

But holy fuck. That does NOT compare to this Dee Ford play. If Justin Houston had some studying and practicing to do as a rookie, then Dee Ford would be better off using his rookie paychecks to fund scientific research for brain transplants. Or maybe he could fund time travel research so he could travel back and tell himself to actually learn how to play fucking football in college.

In any case, he doesn't look like an heir to Tamba Hali's starting spot. He looks like a fucking CHUMP.

Like, what are we still getting excited about with this guy? His great first step?

You know who else had a great first step? R-Kal Truluck. And how'd THAT shit work out for us? Fuck, at least Truluck didn't cost us a 1st round pick.
LOL Bruised Labia?

He's a rookie who made a mistake. Not the end of the world. Let's hope this isn't something that happens often.

[BigMeatballDave]

My exact words when I saw this during the game.

"Who the fuck is that piece of shit? Oh, Dee Ford. Fucking pile of shit rookie."

:rolleyes:

[ThaVirus]

I originally thought it was JMJ in real time.

That formation just threw me off. I never expected to see Ford lined up 4 yards off the ball. Were we running some kind of over/under formation there?

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/dee_ford_">@dee_ford_</a> you thought it was boot, right?</p>&mdash; KC Wright (@wright_kc) <a href="https://twitter.com/wright_kc/status/519265800608161792">October 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[BigRedChief]

The guys on PTI on ESPN were saying that 2 plays earlier he got hit in the head and appeared woozy after the hit.

[jd1020]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/dee_ford_">@dee_ford_</a> you thought it was boot, right?</p>&mdash; KC Wright (@wright_kc) <a href="https://twitter.com/wright_kc/status/519265800608161792">October 6, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Not gonna lie Ford, it's going to be hard to watch how you respond when you'll be riding the bench for all but 5 plays.

[Shaid]

:rolleyes:

LMAO You thought something else?

[OldSchool]

The more you watch it the worse it looks. Doesn't look like he bit on anything at all or was fooled by the PA.

He's staring at Iupati and Staley early on and then, for some reason, just turns away from them and starts looking across at the other side of the field and gets confused by everyone else flowing his way.

[RealSNR]

LOL Bruised Labia?

He's a rookie who made a mistake. Not the end of the world. Let's hope this isn't something that happens often.

That was a Vince Agnew-level mistake out there. He was Tyler Palko bad. He was Jon Baker bad.

He didn't whiff on a tackle. He didn't get burned in coverage. He was confused, but not just because he misread the play or forgot what he was supposed to be doing. He misread the play and DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING RECOVER when it was obvious what the hell was going on.

Fuck, at least Eric Fisher knew what he was doing wrong last year, he just lacked the coordination and skill to recover from it.

Like I said, all rookies make mistakes. Only the shitty ones ever fuck up THAT bad.

[BigRedChief]

He's staring at Iupati and Staley early on and then, for some reason, just turns away from them and starts looking across at the other side of the field and gets confused by everyone else flowing his way.Unless he possibly got a concussion 2 plays earlier like PTI was saying. That would make a player confused and make poor decisions.

Does anyone have the game recorded to take a look 2 plays previously? PTI didn't show the play 2 snaps earlier.

I'd hate to pile on the guy when on the film 2 plays earlier he looks woozy after a hit to the head. It has to have occurred, surely PTI saw it before they spouted off on his reason for looking confused.

[chiefzilla1501]

He made a dumb play. Really dumb. Holy hell, I've never seen a board obsess over rookies making bad plays more in my life.

[Hammock Parties]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzTYq1mIAAAQxfK.jpg:large

[Big Poppa Payne]

He just made c'mon man on ESPN.

[kcxiv]

He just made c'mon man on ESPN.

That was as automatic as it gets. that was more of a WTF man

[Easy 6]

Yep, they pointed out that he did indeed have eyes on the ball, Laz.

[kcxiv]

at least he owned up to it! haha He needs better awareness. dont players hell who has the ball on shit like that. lol At least you would think someone is yelling RB RB RB

[OldSchool]

We need a DE who can blow that play up. Would help this defense tremendously.

[BigMeatballDave]

LMAO You thought something else?

He's a rookie. Your post was asinine.

[BigMeatballDave]

Like I said, all rookies make mistakes. Only the shitty ones ever fuck up THAT bad.

LMAO Step back from the ledge.

This play means nothing.

You're just bitching for the sake of bitching.

[CoMoChief]

first time I watched it in real time during the game I thought he was faked out a mile.

NOPE!!!!!

He was looking straight at Gore turning up field around the corner and he literally RAN AWAY.

I almost want his ass cut immediately.

[Shaid]

He's a rookie. Your post was asinine.

When you're watching a game and you see a player fuck up that big at a pretty crucial time, it's asinine not to react that way.

[BigMeatballDave]

When you're watching a game and you see a player fuck up that big at a pretty crucial time, it's asinine not to react that way.

Sure, at the time of the play.

Not the following day when you call him a POS rookie.

He's a rookie. Take a pill.

[Shaid]

Sure, at the time of the play.

Not the following day when you call him a POS rookie.

He's a rookie. Take a pill.

Reread my post, it was at the time of the play. Maybe you should stop taking the pills.

[BigMeatballDave]

When you're watching a game and you see a player fuck up that big at a pretty crucial time, it's asinine not to react that way.

Carry on. I misread your initial post. :)

[Shaid]

Carry on. I misread your initial post. :)

lol, alright.

[BigMeatballDave]

I'll play the Cancer card here and chalk it up to fatigue from Radiation and Chemo. :D

[Shaid]

I'll play the Cancer card here and chalk it up to fatigue from Radiation and Chemo. :D

lol, all good.

[Deberg_1990]

I should bust out my Betamax tapes and show you all the rookie mistakes of DT and Neil Smith

[OldSchool]

LMAO Step back from the ledge.

This play means nothing.

You're just bitching for the sake of bitching.

Isn't that how every member board always is after a loss?

[BigMeatballDave]

Isn't that how every member board always is after a loss?

No, we're bitching about the loss.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5461761280/hC149EB55/

"When Franklin reared his fearsome head,
Dee scurrilously turned his tail and fled"...

[GloryDayz]

Perhaps he's just misunderstood....


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[J Diddy]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5461761280/hC149EB55/

"When Franklin reared his fearsome head,
Dee scurrilously turned his tail and fled"...

I feel he was practicing a pirrouette.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I feel he was practicing a pirrouette.

ROFL

[cdcox]

How Dee Ford learned football:

http://theworldsbestever.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/electric-football.jpg

[DenverChief]

Yeah I saw that. I didn't know it was ford though :(

[BigMeatballDave]

How Dee Ford learned football:

http://theworldsbestever.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/electric-football.jpg

LMAO

[RealSNR]

LMAO Step back from the ledge.

This play means nothing.

You're just bitching for the sake of bitching.

No, I'm bitching because Ford has a LOOOOONG fucking way to go before he should be trusted as a starting OLB on the shittiest of 3-4 NFL defenses.

Dorsey's plan to save money by ditching Hali next year isn't going to fly very well. The downgrade from Hali to Ford will be worse than dropping Danika Patrick for Barbara Bush

[wazu]

Gonna give benefit of the doubt. It was one play. He looked confused/lost and it needs to be corrected. But let's chill and (yes, I'm really gonna say it)...trust the process.

[mcaj22]

SNR is right by the time Ford develops into anything worth a shit he could be in year 3 or 4 of his rookie contract. We might get one good year out of him before he walks. Its basically shades of Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Jon Baldwin, etc

[Rasputin]

All he needs is a little courage
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ROAR

[chiefzilla1501]

No, I'm bitching because Ford has a LOOOOONG ****ing way to go before he should be trusted as a starting OLB on the shittiest of 3-4 NFL defenses.

Dorsey's plan to save money by ditching Hali next year isn't going to fly very well. The downgrade from Hali to Ford will be worse than dropping Danika Patrick for Barbara Bush

Isn't that what everybody said when Albert was replaced by Eric Fisher?

I seriously don't understand Chiefs Planet's obsession with judging rookies so early in their careers. Knile Davis was flat out terrible until he broke out against San Diego. Travis Kelce was nightmarishly bad last preseason. Several people said Fisher should have been cut last year he was that bad.

Ford is learning a new position. Especially new is coverage responsibilities and clearly, he looked lost. Is it a coincidence that our 3 rookies from last year who are now playing pretty well are starting to look good in year 2? No. The new CBA doesn't give rookies any time to prepare. They have 5 less OTAs, less 2 a days, aren't allowed to even put on pads until several months into the offseason, aren't even allowed to contact coaches until months after they used to be able to.

Wish we could all just chill and give the guy a little time. This is what happens when you draft guys who play difficult positions. They're not going to be ready right away.

[Johnny Vegas]

Looks like he was fooled. You can see him eyeing Kaep as he shifts the other way. Wasn't even looking at Gore.

[RealSNR]

Isn't that what everybody said when Albert was replaced by Eric Fisher?

I seriously don't understand Chiefs Planet's obsession with judging rookies so early in their careers. Knile Davis was flat out terrible until he broke out against San Diego. Travis Kelce was nightmarishly bad last preseason. Several people said Fisher should have been cut last year he was that bad.

Ford is learning a new position. Especially new is coverage responsibilities and clearly, he looked lost. Is it a coincidence that our 3 rookies from last year who are now playing pretty well are starting to look good in year 2? No. The new CBA doesn't give rookies any time to prepare. They have 5 less OTAs, less 2 a days, aren't allowed to even put on pads until several months into the offseason, aren't even allowed to contact coaches until months after they used to be able to.

Wish we could all just chill and give the guy a little time. This is what happens when you draft guys who play difficult positions. They're not going to be ready right away.

I still fail to see how DOZENS of OTs can switch to the right side in one offseason and not suck AIDS, but Eric Fisher can't. Whatever. Fisher was fucking awful, but he was rarely confused about his responsibilities on certain plays. He just had awful coordination and needed an offseason makeover with the dumbbells (which he didn't even get most of the way, so whatever)

Dee Ford needs much more than that. He's having to re-learn how to fucking play football. I don't want to hear about the "transition to a new position." He's learning to play OLB. It's not like he played fucking punter at Auburn and we're transitioning him to OLB. At the worst, he lines up in the wrong spot, or overpursues, or gets eaten up by a blocker. This is just pure cluelessness.

[RealSNR]

I think there's a reason why Hali talked up Josh Martin during training camp: he feels insulted that Dorsey thinks he can replace him with a fucking chump like Dee Ford.

[Dave Lane]

Isn't that what everybody said when Albert was replaced by Eric Fisher?

I seriously don't understand Chiefs Planet's obsession with judging rookies so early in their careers. Knile Davis was flat out terrible until he broke out against San Diego. Travis Kelce was nightmarishly bad last preseason. Several people said Fisher should have been cut last year he was that bad.

Ford is learning a new position. Especially new is coverage responsibilities and clearly, he looked lost. Is it a coincidence that our 3 rookies from last year who are now playing pretty well are starting to look good in year 2? No. The new CBA doesn't give rookies any time to prepare. They have 5 less OTAs, less 2 a days, aren't allowed to even put on pads until several months into the offseason, aren't even allowed to contact coaches until months after they used to be able to.

Wish we could all just chill and give the guy a little time. This is what happens when you draft guys who play difficult positions. They're not going to be ready right away.

I'm sorry did you just compare Eric Fisher to Albert?

[Dave Lane]

I still fail to see how DOZENS of OTs can switch to the right side in one offseason and not suck AIDS, but Eric Fisher can't. Whatever. Fisher was ****ing awful, but he was rarely confused about his responsibilities on certain plays. He just had awful coordination and needed an offseason makeover with the dumbbells (which he didn't even get most of the way, so whatever)

Dee Ford needs much more than that. He's having to re-learn how to ****ing play football. I don't want to hear about the "transition to a new position." He's learning to play OLB. It's not like he played ****ing punter at Auburn and we're transitioning him to OLB. At the worst, he lines up in the wrong spot, or overpursues, or gets eaten up by a blocker. This is just pure cluelessness.

Look at Eric Fisher in the Alex sucks thread OP gif. He's flying backwards onto his ass with the game on the line. Clutch.

[RealSNR]

I'm cool with a player needing more than a year to get his feet wet, even if he's a 1st rounder. But if you need to re-learn how to play football, it's a bad use of a draft pick. It just is. Save that shit for the 2nd or 3rd round at the earliest.

[chiefzilla1501]

I still fail to see how DOZENS of OTs can switch to the right side in one offseason and not suck AIDS, but Eric Fisher can't. Whatever. Fisher was fucking awful, but he was rarely confused about his responsibilities on certain plays. He just had awful coordination and needed an offseason makeover with the dumbbells (which he didn't even get most of the way, so whatever)

Dee Ford needs much more than that. He's having to re-learn how to fucking play football. I don't want to hear about the "transition to a new position." He's learning to play OLB. It's not like he played fucking punter at Auburn and we're transitioning him to OLB. At the worst, he lines up in the wrong spot, or overpursues, or gets eaten up by a blocker. This is just pure cluelessness.
It is a big transition and rookies have no time with the new cba rules to adjust. Fisher missed plenty of assignments as a rookie. We just forget because we've moved on. I don't like ford's progress either. But I said the same shit about Fisher last year. He deserves time. Fisher looked like absolute dogshit until the final few games of last season.

[chiefzilla1501]

I'm sorry did you just compare Eric Fisher to Albert?
No I didn't. Everybody panicked about Fisher starting even though he sucked last year. Fisher hasn't been great but he's been fine. And Fisher improved gradually then quite a bit over the offseason once he got access to coaching. It's what rookies do. They learn and improve.

[kcxiv]

could you imagine the defensive meeting when they show film and showed that play. Hope he has thick skin. Fooled or not, that shit was terrible football recognition.

[WhiteWhale]

I noticed this when it happened. I didn't know it was ford. I just saw a guy running away from the playside against the grain and wondered what the hell he was doing.

It looks even worse than I remembered.

[WhiteWhale]

I still fail to see how DOZENS of OTs can switch to the right side in one offseason and not suck AIDS, but Eric Fisher can't. Whatever. Fisher was ****ing awful, but he was rarely confused about his responsibilities on certain plays. He just had awful coordination and needed an offseason makeover with the dumbbells (which he didn't even get most of the way, so whatever)

Dee Ford needs much more than that. He's having to re-learn how to ****ing play football. I don't want to hear about the "transition to a new position." He's learning to play OLB. It's not like he played ****ing punter at Auburn and we're transitioning him to OLB. At the worst, he lines up in the wrong spot, or overpursues, or gets eaten up by a blocker. This is just pure cluelessness.

Bill Parcells said that switching from a hand down DE to a stand up LB is one of the most difficult transition a D-linemen can make.

I'm sure Parcells knows something about football and converting DE's to pass rushing OLB's.

You are right though... the position change doesn't explain this ugly play at all.

[chiefzilla1501]

Bill Parcells said that switching from a hand down DE to a stand up LB is one of the most difficult transition a D-linemen can make.

I'm sure Parcells knows something about football and converting DE's to pass rushing OLB's.

You are right though... the position change doesn't explain this ugly play at all.
It is flat-out ugly. But keep in mind you have a DE who isn't used to covering who has to cover a receiver, while also accounting for a dangerously fast qb who's out on the bootleg, while also accounting for a run. The DE with his hands down has to account for only two of those things most of the time.

[GloryDayz]

Bill Parcells said that switching from a hand down DE to a stand up LB is one of the most difficult transition a D-linemen can make.

I'm sure Parcells knows something about football and converting DE's to pass rushing OLB's.

You are right though... the position change doesn't explain this ugly play at all.

Doubt it.... Watch:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120919181043/runescape/images/a/ab/Crab_Transformation.gif

It was on the Internet, so it's true.

[kysirsoze]

Even by CP standards, this is an amazing overreaction.

[RealSNR]

Bill Parcells said that switching from a hand down DE to a stand up LB is one of the most difficult transition a D-linemen can make.

I'm sure Parcells knows something about football and converting DE's to pass rushing OLB's.

You are right though... the position change doesn't explain this ugly play at all.

And switching from LT to RT is insanely difficult as well, I'm sure. That doesn't stop players from switching on the fly and doing okay at it.

Tamba Hali's 2009 season wasn't gold or anything, but it wasn't terrible. Terrell Suggs picked up OLB fairly quickly out of college. Jesus fuck, just look at Julius Peppers right now in Green Bay. His first year of playing OLB in the 3-4 and he's their best complementary pass rusher to Clay Matthews that they've ever had!

It's difficult, but players make the transition all the time, and many do it painlessly.

Dee Ford is just really inexperienced, was poorly coached at Auburn, and probably has a learning disability.

[Easy 6]

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/8213/ford-needs-to-recover-from-recent-blunder

[scho63]

This video may be the MOST viewed meme of the year. I've never seen so many people asking me questions about Dee Ford or just wondering if this video was doctored because it looked so bad.

[Jimmya]

Dude was lost.....thought he read pass.

[Discuss Thrower]

And switching from LT to RT is insanely difficult as well, I'm sure. That doesn't stop players from switching on the fly and doing okay at it.

Tamba Hali's 2009 season wasn't gold or anything, but it wasn't terrible. Terrell Suggs picked up OLB fairly quickly out of college. Jesus fuck, just look at Julius Peppers right now in Green Bay. His first year of playing OLB in the 3-4 and he's their best complementary pass rusher to Clay Matthews that they've ever had!

It's difficult, but players make the transition all the time, and many do it painlessly.

Dee Ford is just really inexperienced, was poorly coached at Auburn, and probably has a learning disability.

I feel like there aren't many people who can play the piano at a decent level with learning disabilities...

But then again, you know more about piano than I do. I just stuck my dick in a girl who studied the subject.

[RealSNR]

I feel like there aren't many people who can play the piano at a decent level with learning disabilities...

But then again, you know more about piano than I do. I just stuck my dick in a girl who studied the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lemke

[chiefzilla1501]

And switching from LT to RT is insanely difficult as well, I'm sure. That doesn't stop players from switching on the fly and doing okay at it.

Tamba Hali's 2009 season wasn't gold or anything, but it wasn't terrible. Terrell Suggs picked up OLB fairly quickly out of college. Jesus fuck, just look at Julius Peppers right now in Green Bay. His first year of playing OLB in the 3-4 and he's their best complementary pass rusher to Clay Matthews that they've ever had!

It's difficult, but players make the transition all the time, and many do it painlessly.

Dee Ford is just really inexperienced, was poorly coached at Auburn, and probably has a learning disability.
Those guys had full offseasons to work on it. Peppers was seasoned enough not to need it.

Most people believe the new cba is absolutely crippling for rookies. And it's even harder when they are learning a new position. Five less otas. Dramatically reduced two a days. Crackdown on voluntary minicamps. Dramatic crackdown on contact drills and padded practices. Players can't even work with coaches until late April.

So yeah, willing to cut a rookie playing a new position more slack.

[Rausch]

Definitely ready to take over for Hali next year...

[chiefzilla1501]

Definitely ready to take over for Hali next year...
The same conversations we had about knile Davis, Eric Fisher, and travis kelce this time last year. Fisher even worse, in fact.

[RealSNR]

The same conversations we had about knile Davis, Eric Fisher, and travis kelce this time last year. Fisher even worse, in fact.

Give me a fucking break.

Kelce was a giant unknown and wasn't exactly replacing Jimmy fucking Graham in the lineup. Technically he STILL hasn't replaced the starting TE. If you're referring to his bad performance. And Knile Davis was playing better football far earlier in the season than people want to give him credit for. Not getting carries because we have Jamaal Charles isn't the same as Dee Ford being a clueless retard on the field. Those are fucking shitty examples to use.

And Fisher's shit doesn't exactly smell like perfume yet.

You still haven't responded to the fact that Dee Ford has to re-learn how to fucking play football. He's like Tim Tebow learning how to throw right now.

[Rausch]

He was trying to cover 81

didn't know where the ball was

He wasn't trying to cover 81.

As soon as the ball is snapped 81 takes off down the field right in front of Ford and Ford pays him no mind at all. Doesn't even turn his head.

He see's 81 run right past him and doesn't care. That's clearly not who he's trying to cover...

[Easy 6]

He wasn't trying to cover 81.

As soon as the ball is snapped 81 takes off down the field right in front of Ford and Ford pays him no mind at all. Doesn't even turn his head.

He see's 81 run right past him and doesn't care. That's clearly not who he's trying to cover...

Exactly, he simply wanted to avoid contact with blockers and try to make the tackle further downfield instead of sacrificing his body.

Sutton saying what he said about "lost his man" is just to cover the kids ass and spare him any more public humiliation... having said that, the guy has time to learn, luckily we dont have to count on him this year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Give me a ****ing break.

Kelce was a giant unknown and wasn't exactly replacing Jimmy ****ing Graham in the lineup. Technically he STILL hasn't replaced the starting TE. If you're referring to his bad performance. And Knile Davis was playing better football far earlier in the season than people want to give him credit for. Not getting carries because we have Jamaal Charles isn't the same as Dee Ford being a clueless retard on the field. Those are ****ing shitty examples to use.

And Fisher's shit doesn't exactly smell like perfume yet.
If you seriously don't see the massive amount of improvement between those 3 guys from this time last year to this time this year, I don't know what to say.

Dee Ford looked like a clueless retard for one play. Holy fucking hell, I've never seen a place get so worked up over one play before. The same dumb shit that had people worked up over Fisher getting worked by Parys Harrelson last year.

Fisher hasn't smelled like perfume. But people said we'd be a disaster with Albert out of the lineup. They haven't been. And Fisher played worse this time last year than Ford has played now and he has undoubtedly improved. Anyone who claims otherwise... I would love to bring up last year's thread to prove the comical overreaction.

You still haven't responded to the fact that Dee Ford has to re-learn how to ****ing play football. He's like Tim Tebow learning how to throw right now.
Tim Tebow has thrown a football his entire life. Dee Ford playing with his hand off the ground covering guys is new to him. And unlike Tebow, he didn't have a full offseason to get reps in. He messed up one play. There are a gazillion and a half plays last year where Eric Fisher completely whiffed on a block.

[RealSNR]

Tim Tebow has thrown a football his entire life. Dee Ford playing with his hand off the ground covering guys is new to him. And unlike Tebow, he didn't have a full offseason to get reps in. He messed up one play. There are a gazillion and a half plays last year where Eric Fisher completely whiffed on a block.

Whiffing on a block?

Eric Fisher at least fucking KNEW what was going on. He just sucked dick.

Dee Ford saw the dude with the ball and all the blockers and RAN THE OTHER WAY. For which reason we don't know. We only know that his dumb ass was the cause.

They're not even close to the same level of mistake. That's not a rookie mistake that Dee Ford made. That's a Pee Wee mistake. Not even high schoolers do that shit.

[chiefzilla1501]

Whiffing on a block?

Eric Fisher at least ****ing KNEW what was going on. He just sucked dick.

Dee Ford saw the dude with the ball and all the blockers and RAN THE OTHER WAY. For which reason we don't know. We only know that his dumb ass was the cause.

They're not even close to the same level of mistake. That's not a rookie mistake that Dee Ford made. That's a Pee Wee mistake. Not even high schoolers do that shit.

Eric Fisher has been accused a million times of using the wrong technique. It's amazing how people softened their stance on Fisher.

Eric Fisher didn't just have a hard time last year. There were times he looked flat out lost. Tyson Jackson looked flat out lost his rookie season and then at least proved to be at least a smart player. Rookies make mistakes. Dee Ford made a huge and dumb one. Good grief, he deserves to be bagged on for it but it's one play out of a long college career and 32 snaps in the NFL.

[JCharles1981]

How much do you want to bet Gore would have only gained 2 or 3 yards on that play had Ford not run away like a bitch?

[Rausch]

How much do you want to bet Gore would have only gained 2 or 3 yards on that play had Ford not run away like a bitch?

He could have made the tackle.

I take that back - a solid tackler who plays to stop the run could have made the tackler...

[OldSchool]

He's a pro-football player. He may be learning a new position, but that has absolutely nothing to do with one of the most basic reads in defense or having the awareness to follow the flow of the play and the pulling guard. A decent high school football player would have been able to read that play and at least been in position to do something about it.

It's a terrible sign for Ford to look that lost on the field; it makes one question whether or not he has the instincts to excel as anything more than just a role as a situational pass rusher. For a 1st round pick to mess up that badly is an alarming sign.

I'm praying that he really did hurt his head a few plays earlier and it caused some confusion for him.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Give me a fucking break.

Kelce was a giant unknown and wasn't exactly replacing Jimmy fucking Graham in the lineup. Technically he STILL hasn't replaced the starting TE. If you're referring to his bad performance. And Knile Davis was playing better football far earlier in the season than people want to give him credit for. Not getting carries because we have Jamaal Charles isn't the same as Dee Ford being a clueless retard on the field. Those are fucking shitty examples to use.

And Fisher's shit doesn't exactly smell like perfume yet.

You still haven't responded to the fact that Dee Ford has to re-learn how to fucking play football. He's like Tim Tebow learning how to throw right now.

Fisher's "shit" doesn't even smell like Miracle-Gro, much less the fucking rose.

[Chiefnj2]

He wasn't trying to cover 81.

As soon as the ball is snapped 81 takes off down the field right in front of Ford and Ford pays him no mind at all. Doesn't even turn his head.

He see's 81 run right past him and doesn't care. That's clearly not who he's trying to cover...

I think he had 81 in coverage, let him go thinking it was a run, didn't see Gore with the ball and panicked to turn to cover downfield. When he turned into oncoming traffic he realized it was a run after all.

All this crap about being afraid of contact is just an example of how completely idiotic this board has become. The football IQ in here is at an all time low.

[Easy 6]

I think he had 81 in coverage, let him go thinking it was a run, didn't see Gore with the ball and panicked to turn to cover downfield. When he turned into oncoming traffic he realized it was a run after all.

All this crap about being afraid of contact is just an example of how completely idiotic this board has become. The football IQ in here is at an all time low.

He watched Gore turn the corner with the ball, the only thing at an all time low is your drooping sack.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He had coverage responsibilities; he just cocked up the play recognition.

[CoMoChief]

He had coverage responsibilities; he just cocked up the play recognition.

I dont believe that for a second. He pussed out. He recognized the play and engaged to the outside and then when Gore turned up field he ran with everyone and expected someone else to come in for the tackle.

Dee Ford is a bitch.

[chiefzilla1501]

He watched Gore turn the corner with the ball, the only thing at an all time low is your drooping sack.
If he is trying to defend the pass, then he is looking out for the receiver and spying the qb. Just because he saw gore with the ball doesn't mean the thought registered when the game is moving that fast. The fact that a guy who went through several years in the sec would be afraid of a ball carrier is completely ridiculous. Confused and dumb play yes.

[J Diddy]

I dont believe that for a second. He pussed out. He recognized the play and engaged to the outside and then when Gore turned up field he ran with everyone and expected someone else to come in for the tackle.

Dee Ford is a bitch.

That's just silly.

I mean really really silly.

In fact it's actually not silly, but stupid.

I mean really really stupid.

[RealSNR]

Dee Ford is stupid. He's not scared, though.

[Dave Lane]

No I didn't. Everybody panicked about Fisher starting even though he sucked last year. Fisher hasn't been great but he's been fine. And Fisher improved gradually then quite a bit over the offseason once he got access to coaching. It's what rookies do. They learn and improve.

Fisher is far from fine not even close actually.

[chiefzilla1501]

Fisher is far from fine not even close actually.
Noted, Captain exaggeration.

Fisher according to Cp was supposed to be an outright disaster. He has proven this season to be a serviceable starter.

[CoMoChief]

That's just silly.

I mean really really silly.

In fact it's actually not silly, but stupid.

I mean really really stupid.

You wanna know what else is stupid.....running away from the damn ball carrier.

[CoMoChief]

Noted, Captain exaggeration.

Fisher according to Cp was supposed to be an outright disaster. He has proven this season to be a serviceable starter.

Fisher needs to be a probowler by next season.

Does anyone see that happening? I don't.

[J Diddy]

You wanna know what else is stupid.....running away from the damn ball carrier.

Didn't say it wasn't. Your take of why, however, wants me to get a hammer and a nail and drive it into my skull.

[chiefzilla1501]

Fisher needs to be a probowler by next season.

Does anyone see that happening? I don't.
Why? I've always said he would never be worth the pick.

Almost everyone on Cp said he was garbage and would never improve. Polarization planet at its best. But these people will move the uprights by using the 1.1 argument instead of admitting they were wrong. I think most people can see now Fisher will probably at least be at least solid but unspectacular.

[Exoter175]

Why the **** would you have Dee Ford spying on the QB? That's the stupidest football thought I ever heard whether it's you or Sutton that thought it up.

You certainly aren't going to have Tamba or Houston Spy on Kaep, and without DJ to do HIS job, and JMJ/Mauga completely in capable of running Kaep down, why not ford on certain packages? He's athletic enough and fast enough to run him down.

Considering we were playing SF and he's a rookie it's reasonable to assume he thought it was PA.

Very, very reasonable.

The guys on PTI on ESPN were saying that 2 plays earlier he got hit in the head and appeared woozy after the hit.

That's just a cover, I bet. Woozy or not, that was a blatant misread of a play action that certainly should have been ruled out when he saw downfield blockers with no misdirection from a receiver on that side of the formation.

at least he owned up to it! haha He needs better awareness. dont players hell who has the ball on shit like that. lol At least you would think someone is yelling RB RB RB

And I think that's what was being yelled when he flipped and realized he read play action instead of run, despite evidence to the contrary.

SNR is right by the time Ford develops into anything worth a shit he could be in year 3 or 4 of his rookie contract. We might get one good year out of him before he walks. Its basically shades of Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, Jon Baldwin, etc

How about shades of Tamba, DJ, and Houston? Remember how much we RAGGED on Hali when he was a young guy trying to learn how to play run defense because he was nothing but a situational pass rusher with a quick first step? Sounds exactly like Ford to me. And tamba missed a LOT of tackles early on, and made a LOT of coverage mistakes as well. Houston? He picked things up a lot faster than Tamba did, but he was god awful in the run game at first, and you simply could NOT ask him to cover anything but a lineman because he was so out of position on EVERY play. Looks pretty fucking good now.

And DJ? Lets talk about DJ for a moment. Who got relegated to 2nd team because he had a "bad attitude" and "couldn't tackle" and was a "liability in coverage".

Look what happened to him, he's like a perennial pro bowl ILB/MLB now, despite his injury.

What did they all have in common? For starters, they almost all started as rookies or eventually became starters once they sped up to the gameplay of the NFL. They, of course, were all drafted by the Chiefs, too. On top of that, they all had an issue with run support/defense and gradually learned how to make the transition into run defenders. The NFL has some big, fast, and tough linemen, and there's a whole lot more going on "upstairs" in the heads of the coordinators to fool you. Dee ford, though not the brightest candle, has probably the best "blind ambition" to be "good" in the NFL, over any rookie drafted this year except for CJ Mosley who is a fucking stud and I mentioned that we should move up and draft him this year, now look what happened.

Regardless, he's a total Lawrence Taylor type. He's dumb, athletic, quick, and he's hungry. Dee Ford is eventually going to kick it up to the next level, and when he does? Watch the fuck out.

Dude was lost.....thought he read pass.

[scho63]

Apparently neither did the rest of our defensive line!

Frank Gore had acres of space Sunday (18 rushes for 107 yards). Gore wasn't contacted on his average rush until almost 5 yards (4.8) beyond the line of scrimmage. :doh!: