Trade Deadline Discussion Bullshit: Chase Danielssss?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Yay or Nay?


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/10/23/7046883/nfl-trade-deadline-rumors-chase-daniel-kansas-city-chiefs

Does Chase Daniel have any trade value for the Kansas City Chiefs? The answer is ... probably.

In an ESPN Insider piece on backup quarterbacks who could start next year, Adam Caplan reports that at least two teams "privately" discussed the idea of trading for Daniel earlier this year. The report does not state that they called the Chiefs or had any discussions with the Chiefs. So we are in the rumor mill with this one.

Daniel signed a 3-year, $10 million deal before the 2013 season so he has one more year left on his deal after this season.

Why a trade makes sense

Tyler Bray is currently on IR. If he has developed to the point where the Chiefs might be comfortable with him as the backup in 2015, this trade idea has some merit because the Chiefs are likely not going to keep four quarterbacks. They lucked out this year when Bray was hurt during the preseason. So, for me, this hinges on Bray's development and how comfortable the Chiefs are with him as the potential backup in 2015.

Why a trade doesn't make sense

I'm sure Chiefs fans would be interested in seeing what other teams would give up for him (as would I) but I'm not all that excited about the possibility of trading Daniel barring a high draft pick. While Smith hasn't missed a game yet due to injury, it's a very real possibility that will come at some point this year or next. The Chiefs are in one of the best divisions in football which means every game is extremely important for their playoff hopes. I just don't think that the mid-round or later draft pick you might get for Daniel would be worth what he could provide in a spot start or two. The position is just too important.

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Daniel is a better bridge quarterback for the Chiefs than Aaron Murray or Bray right now. Again, we'll see how Bray develops but right now, Daniel has more potential value to the Chiefs than a mid-round draft pick. (I know plenty of you disagree with this -- let's hear it in the comments.)

What also factors into this is that the Chiefs are already sitting pretty with multiple compensatory picks expected in the 2015 NFL Draft. Another mid-round pick or later wouldn't be all that enticing to me compared to what Daniel could provide should he have to start a game (or multiple games) in the event of an injury.

Chances of it happening

Given Andy Reid's track record with flipping quarterbacks, this is a topic that will likely be revisited as we await the trade deadline. I wouldn't rule it out, especially if the Chiefs are comfortable with the development from Bray or Murray. The Chiefs are unlikely to keep four quarterbacks on the active roster next year so you have to a move will have to be made someplace.

[Red Brooklyn]

Would love. Won't happen because Chiefs.

[kepp]

Daniel is the only backup QB on the roster that would give us a chance to keep winning if Smith went down. All Smith is doing is dumping off to RBs and TEs anyway...maybe an occasional 10 yard pass to a WR that he hopes will get YAC. To trade him would be a bad decision.

[Eleazar]

:rolleyes:

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Daniel is the only backup QB on the roster that would give us a chance to keep winning if Smith went down. All Smith is doing is dumping off to RBs and TEs anyway...maybe an occasional 10 yard pass to a WR that he hopes will get YAC. To trade him would be a bad decision.

You don't think Murray could hand it off to JC and make the occasional pass to a WR for an 1/8 of the cost?

[Direckshun]

Pretty nuts to think teams have called for Daniel.

The Chiefs had to outbid three other teams (that we know of) for Daniel.

Crazy how valuable everything must think he is.

[kepp]

You don't think Murray could hand it off to JC and make the occasional pass to a WR for an 1/8 of the cost?

The question would be, does the coaching staff trust Murray more than Daniel to take over? I think we can forecast the answer to that question with quite a bit of certainty.

Everyone complains about how much Daniel is making when it's not even their money. First it was in preseason when Bray was anointed the official CP backup QB position, only to find out he has barely progressed at all. And now it's Murray who is basically a Chase Daniel clone except that he has about 10% of the experience and is coming off a serious knee injury?

Barring a seriously good offer, Daniel is here through this year, and probably next year as well.

[Sorter]

1. Trade Chase.
2. Aquire mid-round draft selection.
3. Fall over ass-backwards into our own Antonion Brown.
4.???
5. Profit


Chase isnt going to be a lobg term asset. Youve got a chance to convert him into one though, despite how slim that chance may be. It certainly beats Chase leaving this offseason after cutting him going "Boy, remember when we could hace gotten an extra 5th for gim?"

[Mr_Tomahawk]

The question would be, does the coaching staff trust Murray more than Daniel to take over? I think we can forecast the answer to that question with quite a bit of certainty.

Everyone complains about how much Daniel is making when it's not even their money. First it was in preseason when Bray was anointed the official CP backup QB position, only to find out he has barely progressed at all. And now it's Murray who is basically a Chase Daniel clone except that he has about 10% of the experience and is coming off a serious knee injury?

Barring a seriously good offer, Daniel is here through this year, and probably next year as well.

Most of us get upset when they pay $62M to average QBs even though it isn't our money. I think you are in the minority if you don't get caught up with the team contracts...

And you say Bray hardly progressed...are you getting this off of the one article about him not being able to retain the playbook? I have to go back an check, but I think he did pretty well this preseason, again.

As for Murray's knee being an issue...it's 2014.

Chase is an overpaid backup who provides nothing more than slap on the butts, good jobs, and low-fives.

[Direckshun]

1. Trade Chase.
2. Aquire mid-round draft selection.
3. Fall over ass-backwards into our own Antonion Brown.
4.???
5. Profit

You need new material.

[Reerun_KC]

Really need some WRs.... JFC this guys are dumpster fires...

[Sorter]

You need new material.

Agreed.

[thabear04]

Trade him to the Titans if that Rookie QB plays like shit on Sunday.

[Direckshun]

LMAO

[loochy]

You need new material.

1.) Get new material.

2.) ?????

3.) Profit.

[Direckshun]

1.) Get new material.

2.) ?????

3.) Profit.

ROFL

[Sorter]

1.) Get new material.

2.) ?????

3.) Profit.

LMAO

[Trivers]

Good Logic!

We can't afford to have Murray QB.

[Red Dawg]

I would trade him for a decent wide out for sure. Not for a draft pick unless it was a four or higher.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I would trade him for a decent wide out for sure. Not for a draft pick unless it was a four or higher.

Good Luck with that.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Josh ‏@mr_tomahawk · 2m2 minutes ago
@adamteicher Think #chiefs will make moves before the trade deadline? Chase Daniel for picks? #chiefsmail


Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher · 48s49 seconds ago
@mr_tomahawk I'll definitely answer this one.





Stay tuned....

[loochy]

Josh ‏@mr_tomahawk · 2m2 minutes ago
@adamteicher Think #chiefs will make moves before the trade deadline? Chase Daniel for picks? #chiefsmail


Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher · 48s49 seconds ago
@mr_tomahawk I'll definitely answer this one.





Stay tuned....
OK adam, then just answer it instead of telling us that you are goign to answer it

and the answer had better be yes

[siberian khatru]

Teicher: Chiefs might trade Daniels, and they might not.

[the Talking Can]

daniels is wasted money...i'd laugh my ass off if we got a 5th for him

[kepp]

daniels is wasted money...i'd laugh my ass off if we got a 5th for him

His contract is like paying an insurance premium. You hate to have to do it, and it's too expensive, but you'll be glad you did when you need it.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

His contract is like paying an insurance premium. You hate to have to do it, and it's too expensive, but you'll be glad you did when you need it.

In typical Chiefs fashion, they are overpaying for their premium compared to other teams....

[loochy]

His contract is like paying an insurance premium. You hate to have to do it, and it's too expensive, but you'll be glad you did when you need it.

But will we be glad?

Is he supposed to be good or something? I've never seen it at the NFL level...

If Smith goes down we are screwed anyway.

[kepp]

But will we be glad?

Is he supposed to be good or something? I've never seen it at the NFL level...

If Smith goes down we are screwed anyway.

Who knows. He showed pretty good against the Chargers last year, but there isn't much more to go on. But that's still more than the other options on our roster.

[Easy 6]

well, bye

[ChiTown]

Would trade for Bucket of KFC

[kepp]

Would trade for Bucket of KFC

Which recipe though? Original?

[Buehler445]

Trade him for whatever. Day old cheeseburger, I don't care.

[RealSNR]

His contract is like paying an insurance premium. You hate to have to do it, and it's too expensive, but you'll be glad you did when you need it.


Why should we be glad about Daniel starting as a replacement? What the fuck has he ever done?

Kyle Orton is an experienced backup who would be your insurance premium. Daniel is unproven trash with a positive attitude and a body fat index of Billy Butler

[temper11]

Daniel is the only backup QB on the roster that would give us a chance to keep winning if Smith went down. All Smith is doing is dumping off to RBs and TEs anyway...maybe an occasional 10 yard pass to a WR that he hopes will get YAC. To trade him would be a bad decision.

This seems contradictory to me. If you believe smith doesn't do anything but dump the ball off, then why would you need a high paid back up QB to do that? If that really is all he is doing, can't you count on Murray to do that or Bray when he is back from IR?

[ChiTown]

Which recipe though? Original?

Extra Crispy

[chiefzilla1501]

Good god, get rid of him yesterday. Overpaid and he is a glorified Matt Flynn

[penbrook]

Daniel could be a starter in the NFL. He has a good deep ball and can run. A strong arm. His decision making could be better

[Reerun_KC]

More MU trash that needs taken out...

[ChiTown]

Daniel could be a starter in the NFL. He has a good deep ball and can run. A strong arm. His decision making could be better

LMAO - you are a laugh a minute.

[Reerun_KC]

Daniel could be a starter in the NFL. He has a good deep ball and can run. A strong arm. His decision making could be better


Drugs are bad....

[Sandy Vagina]

for a 5th rd pick (or better, yeah riiiiight)... make the trade..

[CHENZ A!]

I'm surprised teams aren't scared off by the whole eating his own boogers thing.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Josh ‏@mr_tomahawk · 7m7 minutes ago
@adamteicher Today?

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher · 5m5 minutes ago
@mr_tomahawk The mailbag runs Saturday morning on http://ESPN.com . I'll tweet a link if I remember

[the Talking Can]

Daniel could be a starter in the NFL. He has a good deep ball and can run. A strong arm. His decision making could be better

no

[Rausch]

Good god, get rid of him yesterday.

This.

Really any pick will do...

[Eleazar]

Which is more stupid, thinking there's a trade market for Daniel, or thinking that Andy Reid is going to trade his backup QB in the middle of a playoff push...?

[beach tribe]

This seems contradictory to me. If you believe smith doesn't do anything but dump the ball off, then why would you need a high paid back up QB to do that? If that really is all he is doing, can't you count on Murray to do that or Bray when he is back from IR?

Murray, maybe.

Bray be like "Go deep"

[MahiMike]

Until Percy got traded to the Jets, I didn't even know they did this midseason. Trades never happen that I'm aware of.

[Dave Lane]

Daniel is the only backup QB on the roster that would give us a chance to keep winning if Smith went down. All Smith is doing is dumping off to RBs and TEs anyway...maybe an occasional 10 yard pass to a WR that he hopes will get YAC. To trade him would be a bad decision.

Hell I can do what Alex is doing. How could Murray do less if they reined him in on going downfield?

[RealSNR]

Which is more stupid, thinking there's a trade market for Daniel, or thinking that Andy Reid is going to trade his backup QB in the middle of a playoff push...?

Apparently there are teams interested in him.

Thus, there's a trade market.

[kepp]

Apparently there are teams interested in him.

Thus, there's a trade market.

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

[The Franchise]

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

We outbid other teams for Daniel because our entire QB depth chart was complete shit. He knew that he had to get a starter, a capable backup and a developmental guy in here all in one offseason. If Smith goes down....this team is not making the playoffs on the back of Chase Daniel.

[RealSNR]

But is that market hot enough for Reid to trade him? I highly doubt it. As someone mentioned earlier, we outbid at least two teams to get him because Andy likes him a lot. And now he's going to let our only experienced backup QB go for a middle round pick that we'll likely get in a compensatory package anyway?

Where are you getting "experienced" from?

Daniel has played ONE game in his entire career. That's like calling a virgin an experienced lover because he watches porn, reads books, and masturbates a lot.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Where are you getting "experienced" from?

Daniel has played ONE game in his entire career. That's like calling a virgin an experienced lover because he watches porn, reads books, and masturbates a lot.

LMAO:LOL:

[a pp roach]

This whole time I thought he had been cut a long time ago.