Let's discuss the NY football JETS

[Deberg_1990]

Rex Ryan= Dead Man Walking

Geno Smith = Not even worth discussing

Vick = Barely even cares if he starts.





Thoughts?

[Mav]

Clay will weep....

[TribalElder]

skeet skeet

[jonzie04]

they could be ok, if not for having the 2 worst* qbs in the entire NFL.

[Ceej]

They were probably better off with Sanchez.

[Hammock Parties]

At least they tried.

[rabblerouser]

Grade A dumpster fire.

[Reerun_KC]

Let the weeping begin....

[Reerun_KC]

Someone will need a towel, lots of jergens will be spent on next weekends game. Geno love will be in full force...

[rabblerouser]

Someone will need a towel, lots of jergens will be spent on next weekends game. Geno love will be in full force...

I'd be surprised if he starts next week.

[RunKC]

At least they tried.

Hey maybe Rex can put that on his resume when he's canned come December

[KCrockaholic]

Good DL.

Harvin is fast.

Ivory is ok.

That's all I got.

[Bewbies]

They'd have the #1 pick if Oakland didn't exist.

[Start Croyle]

Rex Ryan can't develop QBs.

[lcarus]

Good DL.

Harvin is fast.

Ivory is ok.

That's all I got.

Vick could rush for 50 yards. That's all I got.

[Reerun_KC]

I'd be surprised if he starts next week.


Then we will hear how its a travesty and excuses from the usual suspects....

[Bwana]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/418787/train-wreck-o.gif

[KCrockaholic]

We usually play Vick very well for some reason. And that was even in his prime. I can't imagine the things we'll do to him next week. Or even Geno for that matter. Our defense is about to have a coming out party.

[MMXcalibur]

At least they tried.

Damage control.

[cdcox]

Could this be a trap game?

[TLO]

Chiefs will win by at least 13 points.

[KCrockaholic]

Could this be a trap game?

I seriously don't see how unless our offense has their heads up their ass.

Could be a tarp game though

[threebag]

Clay will weep....gash will flow

Geno Smith did, does and always will suck

[a pp roach]

I seriously don't see how unless our offense has their heads up their ass.

Could be a tarp game though

Agreed. Not enough element of surprise for a trap, but enough for a tarp.

[Dave Lane]

Rex Ryan can't develop QBs.

He seems to be able to ruin them pretty well though. Hey Rex you might just let them sit a year before throwing them to the wolves.

Oh and draft better in general.

[Why Not?]

50-6 Chiefs. I'll be in Vegas for this game. Plan on making a lot of $. Nothing better than getting to bet $ on a quit team with a lame duck coach

[vailpass]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/418787/train-wreck-o.gif

Yep.

[ChiefRocka]

50-6 Chiefs. I'll be in Vegas for this game. Plan on making a lot of $. Nothing better than getting to bet $ on a quit team with a lame duck coach

"If it sounds to good to be true, it is"

[Rausch]

This is a game we should easily win.

So I'm very worried...

[mdchiefsfan]

Hey maybe Rex can put that on his resume when he's canned come December

LMAO

[Dunerdr]

If we show up to play this should be a win. But I just don't trusty this team or coaching staff yet to show up week in and week out.

[notorious]

The Jets like to blitz a lot.


Look for us to run about 50000 screens.

[Old Dog]

Early line is KC -7 1/2.

[Deberg_1990]

If we show up to play this should be a win. But I just don't trusty this team or coaching staff yet to show up week in and week out.

Ummmmm. They have shown up every week since week 1

[TinyEvel]

Chiefs will win by 29 points and all the media stories will be "Jets woes continue" with three plays from the game, that's it

[Direckshun]

Chiefs will win by 29 points and all the media stories will be "Jets woes continue" with three plays from the game, that's it

LMAO

Sounds about right.

Mike&Mike the following Monday morning should be fun.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Jets have a very good Dline. I'd like to see the screen game get going early. Their QBs suck, Ivory is alright, Decker is injury riddled. I haven't watched Jets games though.

Total Offense they're 28th, PPG 28th, 3rd down pct 18th and committed the 5th most penalties.
Total Defense 6th, PPG 30th, 3rd down pct 22nd.

They shouldn't be able to do a whole lot offensively a lot like St. Louis. Our oline needs to play a lot better than they did today. I see this as a 31-13 Chiefs victory. Really want to see us start fast.

[Direckshun]

The only thing that concerns me about the Jets is that front seven.

They are huge everywhere -- Wilkerson and Richardson are large and powerful, their NTs are both 350 lbs, Coples off one edge is 290 lbs and Calvin Pace adds another 270.

Will be interesting to see how we fare there.

We will own the Jets no matter what. We'll either shred Geno Smith or take Vick to the woodshed just like we did last year when he had better weapons.

[MotherfuckerJones]

The only thing that concerns me about the Jets is that front seven.

They are huge everywhere -- Wilkerson and Richardson are large and powerful, their NTs are both 350 lbs, Coples off one edge is 290 lbs and Calvin Pace adds another 270.

Will be interesting to see how we fare there.

We will own the Jets no matter what. We'll either shred Geno Smith or take Vick to the woodshed just like we did last year when he had better weapons.

We just need to take care of the ball, not keep this team in the game. Utilize the screen game this week. This oline needs to step up and have a good game.

[Why Not?]

"If it sounds to good to be true, it is"

Um, Pittsburgh Indy 48.5 seemed to good to be true. I took the over and was spending $ by halftime.

[TripleThreat]

Rex Ryan= Dead Man Walking

Geno Smith = Not even worth discussing

Vick = Barely even cares if he starts.





Thoughts?

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUDGE MAN you made me laugh . Rep

[Why Not?]

Early line is KC -7 1/2.

Bet it now. That'll be -10 by the weekend

[Ming the Merciless]

In 5 years no one will know or care the difference between the jets and of 2014

They'll just both be teams who didn't play in the superbowl

I'd rather swing the bat...

Just my 2cents

[Hootie]

think the Chiefs will win another one here, with relative ease

[Easy 6]

What should we discuss, how bad they suck?

How Geno is gonna launch bombs on us all day long?

How absolutely, positively stupid Dorsey was for not taking Geno?

[Chiefs4TheWin]

They gave NE a run for the money, then deflated this week against the Bills. I sure hope the dumpster fire team shows up this week.

[Imon Yourside]

The Jets like to blitz a lot.


Look for us to run about 50000 screens.

We Dink and Dunk better than most Sink and Flunk.

[DaneMcCloud]

We Dink and Dunk better than most Sink and Flunk.

Goddamn, are you still this biased?

Unlike last year, the Chiefs have beaten three teams with a winning record. They've also beaten teams they're supposed to beat.

What more do you want?

[DrRyan]

Just looking at the standings and KC's defense has allowed the second fewest points in the entire league (128), two behind Detroit (126) for fewest in the league. Pretty damn remarkable missing 3 starters for almost the entire season this far.

[Just Passin' By]

Tremendous DL
Decent LBs
Horrible DBs
Solid running attack when the OL doesn't have their heads up their asses
Better than claimed WR corps and TEs that can't be ignored
Godawful QB play

If the Chiefs OL can play the game sort of even with the Jets front seven, this should be a Chiefs blowout.


Idzik could have had Cromartie and Revis as his starting CBs, and he could have drafted Cooks to help out his QB, rather than taking Pryor. Instead, he banked $20m on the cap and went for a safety that hadn't played a lot of man in college, to man the defensive backfield for a team that can't cover. He should be fired for that stupidity.

[Rasputin]

Does Rex Ryan like smelly feet ? Asking for a friend of Simply Red.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Just
Endure
The
Suffering


Lol at the shirt someone at the Jets game had.

[Just Passin' By]

Just
Endure
The
Suffering


Lol at the shirt someone at the Jets game had.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1211982.1354488423!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/week-13-jets-cardinals.jpg

[Simply Red]

Goddamn, are you still this biased?

Unlike last year, the Chiefs have beaten three teams with a winning record. They've also beaten teams they're supposed to beat.

What more do you want?

DANE!@??

[ChiliConCarnage]

I could see it being an interesting game. Especially if their Dline can contain our running game. The Chiefs D hasn't been real turnover opportunistic to this point and that's what's killing the Jets.

[RINGLEADER]

At least they tried.

Yep. They'll get to try again next year too.

[RINGLEADER]

I could see this game being tougher than expected via a combination of the Jets not wanting to be completely humiliated and the Chiefs playing down to their opponent. I'm hoping we're past those days, but I could be wrong.

[philfree]

This is the dreaded 'trap game'. It could be easy to look past the shitty Jets thinking more about the Bills and Seahawks. And seeing how those will be two tough games we really need to get a win against the Jets.

[Dayze]

This is set up perfectly for the chiefs to shit themselves. It always happens. They need to stay focused and jot he too big for their own britches.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This is the tarp Ackbar spoke of.

Jets 44

Chiefs 3

[Hootie]

the Chiefs are gonna win this one like 27-13

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Garbage team. Need to come out with a W

[Pasta Little Brioni]

At least they tried.

The only thing u have been right about this off season is 5 guys. It really is poverty level burger.

[loochy]

DANE!@??

LMAO

I would have never noticed that unless you typed it in big font.

WTF indeed

[Rasputin]

This is set up perfectly for the chiefs to shit themselves. It always happens. They need to stay focused and jot he too big for their own britches.

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/its%20a%20trap" target="_blank"><img src="http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z210/Vygintas/nowthatsatrap.jpg" border="0" alt="its a trap photo: nowthatsatrap.jpg"/></a>

[philfree]

Winning this game is a must in what could be a big week for the Chiefs. If the Patriots and Dolphins can beat the donks and Chargers we'll move ahead of the Chargers and only be a game behind the donks in the division race. There's so much to play for that hopefully we don't fall into the trap.

[ThaVirus]

The Jets allow less yards per rush than any team we've faced, including the Broncos and 49ers. After having trouble getting anywhere on the ground through three quarters against a Rams team that gave up over 1.5 more YPC than the Jets, I'm hesitant to say we'll be able to run the ball effectively this Sunday. It seems we tend to struggle mightily against teams with stellar defensive lines and NY has just about the best one out there.

I'd like to say the fact that the Jets allowing 22 passing TDs and only forcing 1 INT (good for the worst opposing QB rating allowed in the league) would be something we could exploit but we just faced a Rams team that was starting all rookies at CB and didn't seem to move the ball any more effectively than any other week.

We'll probably struggle with Chris Ivory because he runs hard and some Sundays we just forget how to tackle. Harvin and Kerley could run free a bit.

Their QB situation should be the deciding factor, though. Either one should be good for at least two turnovers.

I'd guess we win this one by a comfortable score (maybe 10 points or so) but it'll appear close into the second half like most of our games.

[Just Passin' By]

Ryan just announced that Vick will start.

[Reerun_KC]

Ryan just announced that Vick will start.
But but but its just not fair! This is geno we are talking about. He must prove the chiefs and their fans wrong . /clayanus

[bdj23]

They're shitty

[Rasputin]

Ryan just announced that Vick will start.


The last time Vick played in Arrowhead we beat the Falcons 56-10.

[Rausch]

The last time Vick played in Arrowhead we beat the Falcons 56-10.

And they had the best RUN D in the league before puking up like 8 rushing TD's...

[Mr. Laz]

might want to pound with Davis first to get that 3 yards and a cloud of dust effect

going to need to throw it early

then release Charles on them

[ViperVisor]

Similar to the Rams on D.

Tough, run stuffing front. Horrible DBs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Ryan just announced that Vick will start.

This is bullshit. I do not approve. Somebody fire that fat fucker post-haste.

[MotherfuckerJones]

I just wana see a good screen game, the oline be adequate and pound the fucking rock with Davis too along with Charles to try and wear on their D.

[Mav]

This is bullshit. I do not approve. Somebody fire that fat fucker post-haste.
That's a reach of a troll.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That's a reach of a troll.

Not "nuanced" enough?

[Mav]

Not "nuanced" enough?
Lol. What rex should of done is said the truth. The gm picked geno. He's playing. Everyone knows rex didn't want geno. He knew what everyone else figured out. While having great physical abilities, he is mentally weak.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Jesus how accounts does clay have?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lol. What rex should of done is said the truth. The gm picked geno. He's playing. Everyone knows rex didn't want geno. He knew what everyone else figured out. While having great physical abilities, he is mentally weak.

I agree. That would insure his firing and availability on the market next year.

I think Sutton still sucks, and will be shown to suck when the meaningful games start coming down the wire. I trust him the same way I trusted Bill "Metamucil" Muir, and would love to see Rex in KC.

[Mav]

I agree. That would insure his firing and availability on the market next year.

I think Sutton still sucks, and will be shown to suck when the meaningful games start coming down the wire. I trust him the same way I trusted Bill "Metamucil" Muir, and would love to see Rex in KC.
What Sutton is doing with this defense right now is nothing short of amazing.

Rex would be a great get though.

[Eleazar]

http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2013/08/Its-a-tarp.png

[Direckshun]

LMAO

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/27/7077317/ny-jets-the-jets-best-defensive-back

That leaves one candidate for best defensive back on the Jets. He has as many or more passes defended than every defensive back other than Walls and Allen. And unlike Walls and Allen, he has yet to give up a single touchdown in coverage. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Jets fans of all ages, sizes, nationalities and creeds, I give you the Jets defensive back of the year. I give you 315 pound Muhammad Wilkerson. With three passes defended he tops both Jets starting safeties, and is not far behind both Jets starting cornerbacks. And unlike any of them, he has yet to give up a touchdown. Lest you think this is a statistical fluke, Big Mo actually has the same number of career interceptions as both Walls and Allen, and has the same number of career passes defended as Walls and only one less than Allen. So Big Mo is not only the Jets' best defensive lineman and best player, he is also the Jets' best defensive back.

Perhaps this was what our intrepid GM, John Idzik, envisioned with his competitiony mantra. Not only is there competition coming from the defensive backs, but they even have to be concerned with 315 pound defensive ends supplanting them on the Jets defensive backs depth chart. Diabolically clever Johnny

[Direckshun]

Anybody else remember 2008? I sure as fuck do.

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/26/7073959/jets-vs-bills-final-score-jets-lose-43-23

Jets vs. Bills Final Score: Jets Lose 43-23
By John B
on Oct 26 2014, 4:23p

To those who only thought the Jets were on a losing streak because they ran into a stretch of good quarterbacks, today was likely a painful wake up call. I think you were among the last holdouts to a painful realization. The New York Jets are one of the worst teams in the National Football League.

In today's 43-23 loss to the Buffalo Bills to drop the Jets to 1-7 the roof caved in on almost every talking point this front office has spun to deny the obvious. They said Geno Smith was improving. They acted like Geno was a guy to build around. They acted like he only needed weapons. They said cornerback wasn't an issue. They claimed this team is moving in the right direction.

Geno was the worst player on the field today. He completed more passes to the Bills than he did to the Jets. Michael Vick came in and sparked some life into this offense, but Vick is no genuine answer. He's a stopgap who can light a spark over a short stretch. Around halftime midnight struck, and Vick turned back into a pumpkin.

While they lost primarily due to the quarterback, this was a team effort, the type of lousy team effort you would expect from a lousy team.

We see plenty of talk about which person deserves the blame. Is it John Idzik? Is it Rex Ryan? Is it Geno Smith? It might be true that some might be more to blame than others, but let's acknowledge something. All are responsible, and all need to go.

I won't tell you to root against the Jets the rest of the way. I'm not sure I could ever bring myself to that no matter the circumstances.

I also won't tell you to not go to games. It can be a fun experience, and you're sure to find tickets for really cheap the rest of the way. If you are a family on a budget, this might be a rare chance to take your kids to an NFL game for an affordable price. I have a lot of great memories as a kid getting taken to watch the Kotite teams get their butts kicked. Heck, I might even look for some cheap tickets and go to a game or two.

I will say this, though. The only way to get the owner's attention and force a necessary house cleaning might be beatings like this in front of half filled stands the rest of the way. This is an utter disaster, and seeing it so vividly might give him the push he needs to make the necessary housecleaning.

[bshmerlie]

Chiefs win 45-10

[Direckshun]

This is the material that GangGreenNation.com has been churning out this week:

New York Jets Historic Ineptitude (http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/28/7082835/ny-jets-historic-ineptitude)

How Far Away Are the New York Jets? (http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/28/7082743/how-far-away-are-the-new-york-jets)

and my favorite

New York Jets: Why Do We Carry On? (http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/28/7080675/new-york-jets-why-do-we-carry-on)

LMAO

Ohhhhhhhh, man. We've been there, Jets fans. We've been there.

[007]

50-6 Chiefs. I'll be in Vegas for this game. Plan on making a lot of $. Nothing better than getting to bet $ on a quit team with a lame duck coach

Just remember, this is the type of game the Chiefs have a tendency to blow.

[Mav]

Just remember, this is the type of game the Chiefs have a tendency to blow.
Under this coaching? Other than the titans game I can't really recall a game where they failed to show up.

I would be stunned.

[Direckshun]

Do we have any Jets fans here? Or at least people who watch the Jets a lot?

The Jets have the league's 4th best run game. WTF? How?

[007]

Under this coaching? Other than the titans game I can't really recall a game where they failed to show up.

I would be stunned.

I didn't say I think they will blow it. Just the statistical fact that they usually blow one they have not business losing.

[Hammock Parties]

Do we have any Jets fans here? Or at least people who watch the Jets a lot?

The Jets have the league's 4th best run game. WTF? How?

The only real problem with the Jets is Geno.

They have a very good OL, solid RB and WRs/TEs. Defense is strong up front.

Their QB fucking SUCKS.

[Mav]

I didn't say I think they will blow it. Just the statistical fact that they usually blow one they have not business losing.
Ahh. Noted!

[Direckshun]

Spoke with a friend of mine today who's a Jets fan. The game came up.

He says the Jets run so well because it's literally all they can do. He says they have so little faith in the passing game, they run it 70% of the time -- I have not looked that up to verify it.

They could be a sneaky mismatch for us in that regard. We need to get a healthy dosage of Kevin Vickerson.

[Just Passin' By]

Spoke with a friend of mine today who's a Jets fan. The game came up.

He says the Jets run so well because it's literally all they can do. He says they have so little faith in the passing game, they run it 70% of the time -- I have not looked that up to verify it.

They could be a sneaky mismatch for us in that regard. We need to get a healthy dosage of Kevin Vickerson.

Chris Ivory runs hard, and the OL, while aging, still has Ferguson and Mangold, who help the running game a lot. Playing Oakland also helped, as did playing the Patriots on a Thursday after the Patriots had lost Mayo for the season on the Sunday. They put up more than 200 yards on the ground in each of those games.

[Direckshun]

Chris Ivory runs hard, and the OL, while aging, still has Ferguson and Mangold, who help the running game a lot. Playing Oakland also helped, as did playing the Patriots on a Thursday after the Patriots had lost Mayo for the season on the Sunday. They put up more than 200 yards on the ground in each of those games.

So you think they're not quite the Top 5 running team that their ranking suggests?

[Just Passin' By]

So you think they're not quite the Top 5 running team that their ranking suggests?

I think they're good with the run, but not great. I don't know where I'd slot them in the league. Having Vick at QB will make that running game better against a lot of defenses, though (8 rushes for 69 yards this past week). Something telling about the Jets, I think, is that they are a 1-7 team, yet are still 7th in the league in rushing attempts.

[Direckshun]

I think they're good with the run, but not great. I don't know where I'd slot them in the league. Having Vick at QB will make that running game better against a lot of defenses, though (8 rushes for 69 yards this past week). Something telling about the Jets, I think, is that they are a 1-7 team, yet are still 7th in the league in rushing attempts.

Not terribly worried about Vick.

Not terribly worried at all, really, but the only cause for concern I remotely could have would be if the Jets ran the Chiefs over. The Chiefs have been vulnerable to the run with no DeVito and Tyson Jackson anymore.

I still think they're capable enough. Just put in Vickerson and they should be fine.

[a pp roach]

61-16

Chiefs

[MotherfuckerJones]

I'm not really worried about this game. Just hope we start better than we did against the Rams.

[Just Passin' By]

Not terribly worried about Vick.

Not terribly worried at all, really, but the only cause for concern I remotely could have would be if the Jets ran the Chiefs over. The Chiefs have been vulnerable to the run with no DeVito and Tyson Jackson anymore.

I still think they're capable enough. Just put in Vickerson and they should be fine.

Vick's a wild card in this. This will be the first time he's had any practice time with the starters.

As for the run, they'll probably do what they did against the Patriots, and target the big man (Poe) as the man they have to block at all costs.

[Just Passin' By]

I'm not really worried about this game. Just hope we start better than we did against the Rams.

The Jets could actually make it a game. They do have more talent than their record would indicate, and their defensive front 7 can really get after it.

[Direckshun]

Vick's a wild card in this. This will be the first time he's had any practice time with the starters.

As for the run, they'll probably do what they did against the Patriots, and target the big man (Poe) as the man they have to block at all costs.

We shut down Vick with a better supporting cast last year. LeSean McCoy was at the very top of his game.

I don't think the Jets pass on us (like, at all), and I think Vick does his usual of creating interesting plays in the 1st half that give his team a chance before he implodes in the 2nd half.

I think the Jets have this gargantuan front seven that stands a chance of actually slowing down the Chiefs' run game, even though they'll probably still put up 100+ on the ground. But the Chiefs can pass on them effortlessly, with how unfortunate that secondary's been.

How's Coples looked? I always thought Coples was a really poor fit as a 3-4 OLB.

[Just Passin' By]

We shut down Vick with a better supporting cast last year. LeSean McCoy was at the very top of his game.

I don't think the Jets pass on us (like, at all), and I think Vick does his usual of creating interesting plays in the 1st half that give his team a chance before he implodes in the 2nd half.

I think the Jets have this gargantuan front seven that stands a chance of actually slowing down the Chiefs' run game, even though they'll probably still put up 100+ on the ground. But the Chiefs can pass on them effortlessly, with how unfortunate that secondary's been.

How's Coples looked? I always thought Coples was a really poor fit as a 3-4 OLB.


Coples has been a disappointment. It's not that he's a bust, but he's not what the Jets fans initially thought he was.

Great DL
Aggressive LBs, particularly moving forward
Awful DBs

On offense, they've got a decent/mediocre 6 pack of weapons that they can throw at you, but there's no real Wr1 or TE1:

Ivory
Cumberland
Harvin
Decker
Amaro
Kerley

and Chris Johnson can spell Ivory.

Their OL has been inconsistent.

[Direckshun]

Man I loved Amaro running up to the draft. So glad they're finally getting him involved in that offense. I still think he's got Pro Bowl potential.

[MotherfuckerJones]

The Jets QB situation is awful. We handled Vick last year. We always have.

[crazycoffey]

At least they tried.

Trying and failing means you just didn't really try. Works in every analogy you can muster. Just admit you hitched to the wrong horse. And stop glorifying the first round QB pick tactic as the only plausible tactic, for fuck's sake.

I'd love nothing more than KC drafting luck, or Tyler turning into the next Brady,or even Alex the next Montana. But the truth is; lightening just strikes where it strikes. You can't force it. Nothing will ever change that, because as soon as you think you draft manning, or luck; you end up with Blackridge or Leaf. Or anything in between.

Face it, the top tiered QBs can be counted on one hand, through a dozen years, RBs are more replaceable than underwear, WRs are wishy washy, even with top tier QBs. Especially with top teir QBs, even more unstable with Middle of the line QBs!

Talent is more equal than; accountable for, coaching wins, situation wins, desire wins. We have so many injuries on D, yet make plays without the "backup QB arguements" from last year. Our line is sub par but we control TOP....... We haven't seen as neat and pretty as most instant gratification self servng pussies would like to see; but we're winning. We're giving a chance to win with ball control, despite take aways being low. TOP despite no real WR or QB threat.

Jesus, I swear some of you would bitch about a gold brick because of its shape

[Ragged Robin]

The only real problem with the Jets is Geno.

They have a very good OL, solid RB and WRs/TEs. Defense is strong up front.

Their QB ****ing SUCKS.

ROFL

[beach tribe]

ROFL
25,000 posts about that worthless piece of shit.

[Mav]

25,000 posts about that worthless piece of shit.
Irony at its finest

[vailpass]

25,000 posts about that worthless piece of shit.

A woman scorned...

[Just Passin' By]

Man I loved Amaro running up to the draft. So glad they're finally getting him involved in that offense. I still think he's got Pro Bowl potential.

He's been catching it when it's throw to him (32 catches/39 targets per Profootballreference.com). I don't see him being any great shakes, but that's impressive when you consider the scatter gun he's had throwing him the ball.

[Direckshun]

He had something like 100 receptions in a college football season. Granted, it was Texas Tech's goofy ass system but that's unheard of for a TE.

If he refines the other parts of his game, he could be really awesome.

I had him as a Top 5 option for the Chiefs 1st rounder almost all of draft season.

[Direckshun]

Nicole Angeleen ‏@NicoleAngeleen · 3h3 hours ago
God DAMN it, the Jets just announced Madison Bumgarner is going to start at QB for the Jets this Sunday against the #Chiefs. Enough already.

[Why Not?]

Nicole Angeleen ‏@NicoleAngeleen · 3h3 hours ago
God DAMN it, the Jets just announced Madison Bumgarner is going to start at QB for the Jets this Sunday against the #Chiefs. Enough already.

Sorry, but that's funny.

[Direckshun]

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/10/29/5-ways-new-york-jets-can-defeat-kansas-city-chiefs/

5 Ways New York Jets Can Defeat Kansas City Chiefs
By Luis Tirado Jr. @LTJ81
on October 29, 2014

At 1-7 so far this season, the New York Jets need a lot of things to go right if they are to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Take a look at five ways they can actually upset the Chiefs by sticking with these tried and true methods of playing successful football!

5. Secondary Must Not Allow Big Plays

Last week against the Buffalo Bills, the Jets' defensive secondary allowed two big plays that pretty much sealed the deal of them losing the game. They allowed the Bills to get some serious yardage down the field by playing too much zone coverage and not enough man-to-man, it's easy to exploit with fast receivers. If the Jets want to beat the Chiefs, they must have their secondary go back to the tried and true method of man-to-man coverage.

4. Percy Harvin Must Elevate Offense

In his Jets debut, wide receiver Percy Harvin wasn't anything spectacular but he showed glimpses of his potential with the team once he familiarizes himself with their playbook. Against the Chiefs, the Jets should play to Harvin's strengths and have him contribute as a receiver, running back and a special teams return specialist. He was brought in to help spark the Jets' offense and must be utilized heavily against the Chiefs.

3. Jets' Pass Rush Must Get To QB Alex Smith

If the Jets want to win this ever important matchup, they must bring the heat to quarterback Alex Smith. Even when dealing with a shoulder injury, Smith has the potential to really torch the Jets through the air if they don't get a good enough pass rush in. The Jets' defensive line must pressure him to make mistakes since so far this season, the Chiefs have been terrible when passing the football. The Jets must continue that pattern.

2. Put RB Chris Ivory In Position To Succeed

It's no secret that the premiere running back on the Jets is indeed Chris Ivory. If they want to open up some play-action plays in the game as well as control the game clock, it's imperative that the Jets stick to their ground-and-pound style of running the football. It worked very well in the past and the Jets should definitely give Ivory plenty of reps to get the tempo of the game going in the Jets favor.

1. Michael Vick Must Play Mistake-Free Football

Quarterback Michael Vick has been declared the Jets' starter and now has a golden opportunity to silence his critics. He absolutely should practice his heart out this week and get every key play needed to beat the Chiefs flawlessly down pat. If Vick has a solid mistake-free football game where he uses his veteran skills to keep those chains moving, the Jets can finally pull an upset and start heading into a better direction this season.

Luis Tirado Jr. is a New York Jets writer for RantSports.com.

[007]

Just DESTROY them. No mercy.

[Direckshun]

Jets' Sheldon Richardson says Jamaal Charles is good, but, 'I don't want to ride his jock strap' (http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/10/jets_sheldon_richardson_says_jamaal_charles_is_good_but_i_dont_want_to_ride_his_jock_strap.html):

“What makes him so good?” Richardson said. “You also see highlight tapes, too, so I don’t have to sit here and repeat why he’s good. I don’t want to ride his jock strap. He’s good. That’s it.”

Richardson called the Chiefs’ running backs “electrifying,” adding: “Speed, everything you want to see out of a back. Knile Davis is a hard runner, downhill runner. So we’ve got our work cut out for us this game.”

[Direckshun]

LMAO

Clay Wendler: Chiefs 77, Jets 0

The Chiefs break the NFL record for margin of victory and scoring, scoring 11 touchdowns, all via the cannon right arm of Alex Smith. He goes 11-for-11 for 11 yards, prompting many to complain about his lack of downfield passing.

[Hammock Parties]

I knew you'd like that, D.

[007]

LMAO

Typical Andy Reid. 1 yard pass plays. :shake:

[Hammock Parties]

Can't wait to predict a Bills win next week and really send AP into a tizzy.

[Chiefshrink]

Why ?

[Hammock Parties]

Why ?

1. I believe it.

2. I enjoy framing it in a humorous manner.

3. I enjoy the reactions.

[Chiefshrink]

1. I believe it.

2. I enjoy framing it in a humorous manner.

3. I enjoy the reactions.

Fair enough. I just hope we don't play down to them. :rolleyes:

[007]

Can't wait to predict a Bills win next week and really send AP into a tizzy.

where are you posting this stuff at?

[Hammock Parties]

Fair enough. I just hope we don't play down to them. :rolleyes:

They have a better record than us.

[Hammock Parties]

where are you posting this stuff at?

I'm not. AP does a weekly picks post. I get an email, send in my pick, and watch the ensuing whining.

It's troll by proxy.

[BlackOp]

They have a better record than us.

Should have signed Kyle Orton then....he's much better than Smith.

[007]

I'm not. AP does a weekly picks post. I get an email, send in my pick, and watch the ensuing whining.

It's troll by proxy.

LMAO I see.

[Hammock Parties]

Should have signed Kyle Orton then....he's much better than Smith.

He's a less mobile, but more aggressive, Alex Smith.

Main difference: he's not getting $68 million to lead the bills to 9 or 10 wins.

[Direckshun]

Kyle Orton is what he's always been. Anybody who's paid attention for the past 10 years knows.

He'll get his yardage between the 20s. He's useless in the redzone.

BUT. This is a thread about the Jets.

[Hammock Parties]

He'll get his yardage between the 20s. He's useless in the redzone.


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[Hammock Parties]

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He's a less mobile, but more aggressive, Alex Smith.

Main difference: he's not getting $68 million to lead the bills to 9 or 10 wins.

No shit. Orton would have been a much better stop gap.

BUT REMEMBER!

"I UM AH TAKIN' ALEX SMITH TO TEH HALL O FAME"-slobber-slobber-droool/Reid

[MahiMike]

Best thing about this game is the media is forced to talk about the Chiefs this week.

[Reerun_KC]

Geno Smith will dominate in this game /Gayanus and ROR

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I hope we kill them.

I always hated seeing the Jets at their very worst always on MNF in the early to mid 90's. Geez that was awful tv. Just because they're NY they still put them on MNF even though they were Ebola.

[Easy 6]

I think it'll be tough to move the ball against them... Ryan is a gonner there, so he isnt coaching for his job, but he is coaching for his next gig and for his pride.

He'll have that defenses hair on fire, we cant look past these guys no matter how bad their offense is.

[Halfcan]

Since my predictions were spot on last week- I will do it again this week.

Can the Chiefs post back to back blowouts? I am going to say yes- for these reasons.

1. Vick was the QB of the Falcons when the Chiefs stomped them for 55 points. Will he be rusty-I think so and the crowd will only magnify his mistakes. I think the Chiefs will get a minimum of 2 turnovers this game- my bet is they will be from Vick. Int. and a strip fumble from Houston.

2. Houston is having an MVP year and on target for the holy grail for defensive players-the single season sack record. The Jets will try to double him-leaving more room for Poe to Bust up the middle. They pick their poison in the first half leaving Poe and Bailey to shut down the running game. Second half Houston will dominate. I will be surprised if he finishes with less than 2 sacks and a forced fumble.

3. Alex Smith- yawn! Boring but effective. With the Jets terrible pass defense-this is the exact type of game Alex pads his stats for the end of the year debates on whether he sucks or not. Bowe should have a breakout game with 2 Td's and a 100 yard game.

4. Charles- one of the most complete backs in the NFL and the Chiefs All time leading rusher. I don't think the Jets will be able to stop the combo of Davis and JC-who will combine for over 150 yards on the ground and at least 2 TD's.

5. Kelce is a breakout star and fan favorite in the making. Hopefully this is the week he kicks the slow-footed Falsano into second place on the depth chart. Fans have been wanting to see Kelce be the starter all year after a productive preseason. Reid is stubborn and won't do it this week-but Kelce will have a big game and make it more difficult for Andy to keep starting Falsano. Kelce has only played 50.7% of the snaps but leads the team in targets with 37.

6. Arrowhead. With an improved D. and a time of possession eating offense-this is the perfect brew for a Loud crowd. Plenty of time to get a beer while JC and Davis maul them on the ground. Then get back to your seat and watch the D. dismantle the Jets and send them to an embarrassing 8 game losing streak. Best stadium in the NFl and by far the Best and most Loyal fans a team could hope for. The sea of red will have the Jets thinking about the plane ride home by the second quarter.

Chiefs 38 Jets 6

[MotherfuckerJones]

I want to see the run game pounding, screens utilized and get the ball to Bowe and Kelce.

Chiefs 31-13

[Dayze]

Th is game screams of the Chiefs shitting their pants

[temper11]

Trying and failing means you just didn't really try. Works in every analogy you can muster. Just admit you hitched to the wrong horse. And stop glorifying the first round QB pick tactic as the only plausible tactic, for ****'s sake.

I'd love nothing more than KC drafting luck, or Tyler turning into the next Brady,or even Alex the next Montana. But the truth is; lightening just strikes where it strikes. You can't force it. Nothing will ever change that, because as soon as you think you draft manning, or luck; you end up with Blackridge or Leaf. Or anything in between.

Face it, the top tiered QBs can be counted on one hand, through a dozen years, RBs are more replaceable than underwear, WRs are wishy washy, even with top tier QBs. Especially with top teir QBs, even more unstable with Middle of the line QBs!

Talent is more equal than; accountable for, coaching wins, situation wins, desire wins. We have so many injuries on D, yet make plays without the "backup QB arguements" from last year. Our line is sub par but we control TOP....... We haven't seen as neat and pretty as most instant gratification self servng pussies would like to see; but we're winning. We're giving a chance to win with ball control, despite take aways being low. TOP despite no real WR or QB threat.

Jesus, I swear some of you would bitch about a gold brick because of its shape

This.

[ModSocks]

This game is going to be tougher than people are giving credit for. The Jets boast a pretty stout run D. We're not great run defenders and the Jets will attempt to marty ball it up.

[Reerun_KC]

Should be a game were Blowe can pad his stats and actually contribute to the offense...

[Easy 6]

Eric Berry will play vs Jets.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/10/31/7139507/eric-berry-injury-return-chiefs-jets

Trent Green reads Arrowhead Pride, bet he peeks in here once in a while as well.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/10/31/7139267/kansas-city-chiefs-trent-green-interview-cbs-2014

I like this site and Arrowhead Addict quite a bit, they're both more professional, and from what I can tell, much better connected than Bleacher Report.... our own MicJones is even a regular contributor at AA.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Geno Smith will dominate in this game /Gayanus and ROR

Just admit it; you love trolling as much as we do.

It's okay, you can man-up.

[Chromatic]

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[Direckshun]

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/10/31/7136935/ny-jets-chiefs-trends-to-track

Jets @ Chiefs: Trends To Track
By Smackdad
on Oct 31 2014, 2:13p

Welcome to Trends to Track, a weekly look at some of the developing trends shown by the upcoming opponent and/or the Jets. Here we intrepidly or foolishly go where smarter people fear to tread and try to establish some trends which might influence the outcome of Sunday's game. This isn't meant to be an exhaustive list, or even necessarily the most important trends and matchups to focus on. Rather, it is a highly idiosyncratic look at trends which caught my eye this week and might prove interesting in Sunday's game. Please feel free to supplement this article with any trends you've noticed. Now, let's get to it.

Mobile Kryptonite

The Chiefs have faced some statuesque quarterbacks this year and some very mobile quarterbacks. In the statuesque category are Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers and Austin Davis. Against these four teams the Chiefs have gone 3-1, and in the lone loss they gave Peyton and the Broncos all they could handle. The Chiefs have three blowout wins this year. Two have come against immobile quarterbacks Tom Brady and Austin Davis. The story against mobile quarterbacks is very different. The Chiefs have faced three mobile quarterbacks this year in Jake Locker, Ryan Tannehill and Colin Kaepernick. Their record against mobile quarterbacks is 1-2, with Locker and the underwhelming Titans, a pretty good analog for Vick and the underwhelming Jets, handing the Chiefs their only blowout loss, as it turns out in Kansas City. If you want to attack the Chiefs with a pocket passer, good luck, they will likely beat you like a drum. But put them up against a running quarterback and the Chiefs lose their superhuman strength. It just so happens the Jets have perhaps the best running quarterback to ever play the game. Advantage: Jets.

Run, Run, Run

At a cursory glance it looks like the Chiefs have a pretty good run defense. They rank 10th in the NFL in yards allowed with 790. However, dig deeper and you find the soft underbelly of the Chief's defense. One reason the Chiefs rank as high as they do in rushing yards allowed is that they have only played seven games so far. In yards per game they only rank 18th in the NFL. In yards per attempt the Chiefs rank a lowly 27th. They have been fortunate to face many of the worst running teams in the NFL, facing San Diego, Denver, New England and St. Louis, ranked 31st, 26th, 23rd and 18th in yards per attempt in 2014. The Chiefs have done very well against those below average running teams, going 3-1 and giving Denver all they could handle in a 24-17 loss. Against teams with above average running games it's been a different story. The Chiefs have faced three teams with better than average running games: San Francisco, Tennessee and Miami. They have a 1-2 record in those games. The Jets are as good a running team as Kansas City has faced all year. With Vick running the show now and with Harvin aboard the Jets may be as good a running team as there is in the NFL. Kansas City struggles against good running teams; the Jets are a very good running team, 5th in the NFL in yards per carry. When the Chiefs give up more than 88 rushing yards they are 1-2 this year. The Jets have rushed for less than 90 yards only once this year. Advantage, Jets.

Turnovers

The Chiefs are currently 31st in the NFL in generating turnovers, better than only the lowly Jets in that category. They have only four interceptions on the year and have only recovered a single fumble. The Chiefs have only forced multiple turnovers in one game this year, against the Patriots, and have failed to generate a single turnover in four of their seven games. This should be music to Jets fans ears. The biggest reason the Jets have lost seven straight games this year is they have continually turned the ball over. The Jets are tied with the Jaguars for most offensive turnovers in the NFL with 18. However, Geno Smith, the cause of many of those turnovers, has been benched in favor of Michael Vick. Vick himself is not great at protecting the ball, but he probably represents an upgrade over Smith in this respect. This game against the Chiefs represents a chance for Vick and the Jets to get through a game relatively unscathed by turnovers for once. The Dolphins have turned the ball over in five of their seven games, have multiple turnovers in four games, and have turned the ball over three times in three games, yet played a turnover free game against the Chiefs. The Titans have turned the ball over multiple times in five of eight games yet played turnover free football against the Chiefs. The Rams have turned the ball over multiple times in three of seven games yet turned it over only once against the Chiefs. The Chiefs have proven to be a turnover prone team's best friend. For a team that has constantly shot itself in the foot with turnovers, this game should provide a much needed respite. Worst team in the NFL turning the ball over against second worst team generating turnovers. Something's gotta give. If this works in the Jets' favor we might finally see a Jets win.

No Big Plays

The Jets defense has struggled mightily giving up big plays. It's hardly a secret that with two cornerbacks who cannot defend the deep ball and a deep safety who has no idea what he's doing in deep help coverage the way to beat the Jets is to sling it deep. How fortunate then for the Jets that the Chiefs just don't put up big plays. Kansas City has managed all of three passes of more than 27 yards all year long, and has only done it in two games this year. This is the ultimate dink and dunk passing attack, with nary a deep threat in sight. The Chiefs rely on a good running attack, which the best run defense in football, the Jets, should be able to limit, and a high efficiency, extremely safe but not very dynamic short passing game . They literally have no deep threat in their arsenal. With the Chiefs' offense not threatening the deep end of the field the Jets should be able to contain the Chiefs running game and force Alex Smith to beat them with his arm. The good news: when the Chiefs have been held below 140 rushing yards they are 0-3. The Jets have held seven of eight opponents under 140 yards rushing. Alex Smith is not usually capable of carrying the team on his back. With no way to attack the Jets achilles heel and with an offense geared to slamming the ball into the NFL's best run defense, this game has the scent of a Jets upset wafting through the Kansas City air.

Houston, We Have A Problem

The Chiefs have an excellent pass rush. They are second in the NFL in sacks per game, trailing only Buffalo. Justin Houston is particulary dangerous, currently on pace to threaten the all time single season sack record. Slowing down this pass rush is a daunting task, and Michael Vick will very likely get taken down a few times. But the Jets may be better suited than most teams to slow down the Chiefs' fearsome pass rush. 14 of the Chiefs' 24 sacks this year have come from the pair of bookend edge rushers, Houston and Tamba Hali. The best way to slow down edge rushers is to run the ball right down their throats, again and again and again. The Jets offense is geared to run the ball a lot. The next best way to keep edge rushers at bay is to force them to defend the edge. Ways to do this include a quarterback that can get outside and make edge rushers who get upfield too quickly pay when they lose containment. The Jets have one of the best of these in Michael Vick. Another way to slow edge rushers down is to threaten the outside in the running game, forcing them to defend against the run. The Jets now have Percy Harvin, who can do this in jet sweeps, pitchouts, end arounds and reverses, and the Jets also can do this with read option looks and triple option looks, with two very fast guys in Vick and Harvin simultaneously threatening the edge. If the Jets can manage to keep the game close enough that they are not forced to abandon the run, then they can limit the number of opportunities for sacks by limiting pass plays and constantly threatening the edge. This should go a long way towards neutralizing Kansas City's biggest weapon in their pass defense.

Just Joshing

Many of you will remember Josh Mauga as an always injured backup inside linebacker with the New York Jets. Some of you may be surprised to learn that Mauga is now not only a starting inside linebacker with the Chiefs, he is also their leading tackler.

The Jets released Mauga this year, and Kansas City picked him up. Mauga simply could not stay healthy, and the Jets ultimately lost patience. Mauga suffered a knee injury and a torn pectoral muscle in college and went undrafted in 2009, partially because of his injury history. He spent a year on the Jets' practice squad, then suffered a concussion in 2010 training camp. He finally was fully healthy in 2011 and played in all 16 games. Then more injuries. Mauga suffered another torn pectoral muscle in 2012, and in 2013 he suffered a back injury in training camp that landed him on injured reserve for the year.

Although Mauga was healthy in this year's training camp, the Jets decided to move on, and Mauga wound up in Kansas City, where, in a bit of irony, he quickly found himself with a starting job when star linebacker Derrick Johnson tore his achilles tendon in the season opener. Mauga has never looked back, leading all Chiefs in tackles by a wide margin.

Mauga will never be a star, but it's nice to see he's found his place and is thriving after suffering through so many setbacks. Let's just hope he doesn't thrive too much on Sunday against the Jets.

The Chiefs are favored this week against the Jets. That's as it should be. The Jets are 1-7 and should not be favored against any team left on the schedule. The Chiefs are 4-3, with quality wins against the Patriots and the Chargers. The Chiefs are also playing at home. That all sounds like a recipe for a Kansas City blowout win against the hapless Jets. But often times the game of football comes down to favorable or unfavorable matchups. Last week's game against the Bills had the Jets as favorites at home, but the matchups were terrible and the Bills blew the Jets out. This week is the polar opposite of that situation. The Chiefs are favored at home, and rightfully so. But many of the matchups in this game favor the Jets. The Jets hurt themselves with turnovers, but the Chiefs can't take advantage because they don't generate turnovers. The Jets struggle with deep passing, but the Chiefs have no deep threats. The Chiefs struggle against mobile quarterbacks, and the Jets have perhaps the most mobile quarterback in the NFL. The Chiefs struggle against good running teams, and the Jets may be the best running team the Chiefs have faced all year. The Chiefs struggle when they can't dominate on the ground, and the Jets have the best running defense in the NFL. These are an awful lot of matchups and trends that favor the Jets in this game. I smell the makings of an upset. If the Jets can avoid falling into a deep hole early and taking the running game off the table, and also avoid turning the ball over multiple times (always a challenge), this one just might turn into a much needed Jets win. All the pundits and talking heads will be picking the Chiefs on Sunday. Don't be surprised if they're all wrong.

[Direckshun]

Gotta be honest, the author there raises some good points...

[Easy 6]

Good grief, I just finished reading a GIANT tome on MacArthur that wasnt as hard to read as that.

ps - Truman was a joke, his micromanagement and trepidation kept us from a united Korea NO doubt about it... he HATED that "his" General was outshining him at every turn.

Sorry Missourri, but Truman was a flinty eyed asshole, not even popular in his own time... so yeah, just like the Jets.

[lcarus]

Vick at least USED to be very capable of being an explosive passer and runner. I think those days are behind him though, and I don't think he'll re-emerge with this Jets team as it is.

Chiefs - 24
Jets - 13

[sd4chiefs]

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