Big Ben

[BigCatDaddy]

Ben could have shut down and everyone blamed the defense for letting the Colts back in it and lost the game, but instead he said **** no and put the team on his shoulders. This is the difference between what we got and what we want at QB. And 35% of this forum said they would take Alex over Ben LMAO

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/roethlisberger-throws-6-tds-steelers-000722679--nfl.html;_ylt=AwrSbDjadk5Uz1oAzIlXNyoA

[Hootie]

Give it a rest. It's just annoying at this point

[Reerun_KC]

ROFL

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Oh for fuck's sake

[Reerun_KC]

http://c3.soap.com/images/products/p/aci/aci-005_1z.jpg

[BigCatDaddy]

Give it a rest. It's just annoying at this point

Dude. You are the most annoying poster on CP by far. Some of your takes are interesting, but the methed out rapid style of repetitive shit is annoying.

[beach tribe]

Dude. You are the most annoying poster on CP by far.

At least his range of topics out numbers his eyes.

[Gravedigger]

So Big Ben hasn't been the same since the Superbowl against the Cardinals, he has one amazing game and you say he's the Quarterback you want and every QB should aspire to be? I think you're giving him the Matt Flynn treatment just a bit. I'd rather have Alex than Big Ben.

[Donger]

Ben could have shut down and everyone blamed the defense for letting the Colts back in it and lost the game, but instead he said **** no and put the team on his shoulders. This is the difference between what we got and what we want at QB. And 35% of this forum said they would take Alex over Ben LMAO

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/roethlisberger-throws-6-tds-steelers-000722679--nfl.html;_ylt=AwrSbDjadk5Uz1oAzIlXNyoA

What does this even mean?

[BigCatDaddy]

So Big Ben hasn't been the same since the Superbowl against the Cardinals, he has one amazing game and you say he's the Quarterback you want and every QB should aspire to be? I think you're giving him the Matt Flynn treatment just a bit. I'd rather have Alex than Big Ben.

Actually is was more to point to a QB doing more than "enough to win". I get sick of that shit. You do what it takes to win, not what it should have took to win. It's a mentality.

[RunKC]

This team is 4-3, went 3-2 against winning teams including 4 of the first 6 on the road, and BigCat is dragging his bleeding pussy across the board.

Do us all a favor and either be happy after a win (blowout no less) or drink antifreeze.

[BigCatDaddy]

What does this even mean?

What do you think it means?

[BigMeatballDave]

Have an Ebola sandwich.

Cat rides the short bus.

[lcarus]

Yeah god damn Alex for not having one of the best statistical games ever. Fuck him for not throwing over 500 yards and 6 TDs when we really needed him to.

[BigCatDaddy]

This team is 4-3, went 3-2 against winning teams including 4 of the first 6 on the road, and BigCat is dragging his bleeding pussy across the board.

Do us all a favor and either be happy after a win (blowout no less) or drink antifreeze.

Love the win... I guess the Royals have me hoping for a little more than a few regular season wins. My bad fellas. BBQ, beer, and 8-8. Let's do this shit.

[Reerun_KC]

Actually is was more to point to a QB doing more than "enough to win". I get sick of that shit. You do what it takes to win, not what it should have took to win. It's a mentality.

Actually its more of revisionist history and personal agenda than it is a mentality...

[BigCatDaddy]

Yeah god damn Alex for not having one of the best statistical games ever. **** him for not throwing over 500 yards and 6 TDs when we really needed him to.

It wouldn't have taken that. Don't be dense.

[BigCatDaddy]

Actually its more of revisionist history and personal agenda than it is a mentality...

It's excuses... it gets old. The coach, the defense, the kicker, the coordinator, dropped pass, injured player etxx... the QB has the best chance to take a game over and win it for the team. Ben just showed that you can still win while everyone else not having a great day.

[Donger]

What do you think it means?

It seems like you are either just shit stirring or you are complaining that the Chiefs win on Sunday wasn't good enough.

[lcarus]

It wouldn't have taken that. Don't be dense.

I find it dense to blame that game on Alex Smith in any way. And I know that he's a "game manager". We all know what he is. But he was great in that game.

[BigCatDaddy]

It seems like you are either just shit stirring or you are complaining that the Chiefs win on Sunday wasn't good enough.

Just making a point that many didn't/don't seem to get. I thought a real life example might open a few eyes to the argument, but that's likely wishful thinking.

It seemed too perfect for people to not understand. Same Colts team gets down big, same Colts team comes storming back, one QB keeps on putting points on the board, one QB doesn't. Team with good QB wins, team with meh QB goes home in the playoffs while laying all blame at everyone else's feet. Do they deserve some blame? Sure! Can a great QB overcome situations ike that? Apparently they can. Should we still be looking for such QB instead of latching on to mediocre QB? IMO, we shouldn't settle.

How's that?

[lcarus]

Just making a point that many didn't/don't seem to get. I thought a real life example might open a few eyes to the argument, but that's likely wishful thinking.

Your real life example is one of the best statistical games a QB has ever had. Yeah, nearly every QB won't ever measure up to that kind of standard.

[BigMeatballDave]

Just making a point that many didn't/don't seem to get. I thought a real life example might open a few eyes to the argument, but that's likely wishful thinking.

You're fucking stupid if you really believe that.

We get it, we really do.

What most of us hate is the fucking arrogance and audacity that you turd herders seem to think you need to spell it out.

Fuck you.

I've been watching the NFL since the late 70s.

[Why Not?]

The same Ben that player on of the worst QB games of the season against the vaunted Browns defense a few weeks ago?

[BigCatDaddy]

Your real life example is one of the best statistical games a QB has ever had. Yeah, nearly every QB won't ever measure up to that kind of standard.

Right, but it didn't take one of the best games ever to win. That was just gravy. You're being obtuse.

[BigCatDaddy]

The same Ben that player on of the worst QB games of the season against the vaunted Browns defense a few weeks ago?

Yeah, and the same Brady that looked like ass against us. Every QB has a shit week at times, but they have a decent track record of winning some big games here and there.

[Reerun_KC]

Right, but it didn't take one of the best games ever to win. That was just gravy. You're being obtuse.

Your being a tetrahedron.

[Rasputin]

So the Chiefs need a rapist at quarterback? Is that what you are suggesting BCD?

[lcarus]

Right, but it didn't take one of the best games ever to win. That was just gravy. You're being obtuse.

It's the example you chose to use though lol. Our playoff loss didn't take one of the best games ever to win either. What Alex did should have been more than enough. I get what you want in a QB. I want it too. Shit we all do. But those dudes don't grow on trees.

[bishop_74]

If there were 20 Payton Mannings available in the league I could understand your point... "Juts grab one of those guys". That is unfortunately not the case. 3-5 QB play at that level consistently... MAYBE. Its just the way it is. It would be great if we could grab one, but if it were that easy every franchise would have one.

[Reerun_KC]

If there were 20 Payton Mannings available in the league I could understand your point... "Juts grab one of those guys". That is unfortunately not the case. 3-5 QB play at that level consistently... MAYBE. Its just the way it is. It would be great if we could grab one, but if it were that easy every franchise would have one.


All the Chiefs had to do was draft Geno and the stars would of aligned /BDC, Clayanus and the Trolls

[O.city]

4 Qb's threw for 400 yards yesterday, 3 of them lost.

[lcarus]

4 Qb's threw for 400 yards yesterday, 3 of them lost.

They should have "put the game on their shoulders and done more like Big Ben did yesterday".

[tk13]

The funny thing is there are a ton of things you can criticize about Smith's play, and people still choose the playoff game.

[tk13]

4 Qb's threw for 400 yards yesterday, 3 of them lost.

Over the last 8-10 years or so since the game has opened up... guys who throw for 400 actually have a losing record. It's not the indicator of success people think it is.

[Donger]

Just making a point that many didn't/don't seem to get. I thought a real life example might open a few eyes to the argument, but that's likely wishful thinking.

It seemed too perfect for people to not understand. Same Colts team gets down big, same Colts team comes storming back, one QB keeps on putting points on the board, one QB doesn't. Team with good QB wins, team with meh QB goes home in the playoffs while laying all blame at everyone else's feet. Do they deserve some blame? Sure! Can a great QB overcome situations ike that? Apparently they can. Should we still be looking for such QB instead of latching on to mediocre QB? IMO, we shouldn't settle.

How's that?

That both teams won? Yes, that's a great point.

[TimBone]

If Big Ben were to come to KC, I'd probably follow Alex Smith to his next team.

[BigMeatballDave]

If Big Ben were to come to KC, I'd probably follow Alex Smith to his next team.

:LOL:

[BigMeatballDave]

Over the last 8-10 years or so since the game has opened up... guys who throw for 400 actually have a losing record. It's not the indicator of success people think it is.

Clay needs to read this.

He will weep.

[BigMeatballDave]

Grbac threw for 500 in a game, and lost.

[Hootie]

throwing for 400 in a game generally means you're team is playing from behind

in Roeth's case yesterday...Indy had one of their perennial "I guess we aren't going to show up" games that they have showcased with Luck the first few years of his career.

Pretty baffling, yesterday's game.

[Bwana]

Geno Smith

[Pasta Little Brioni]

After reading the responses...Want to get a way?

[Shekelsteinberg]

Ben could have shut down and everyone blamed the defense for letting the Colts back in it and lost the game, but instead he said **** no and put the team on his shoulders. This is the difference between what we got and what we want at QB. And 35% of this forum said they would take Alex over Ben LMAO

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/roethlisberger-throws-6-tds-steelers-000722679--nfl.html;_ylt=AwrSbDjadk5Uz1oAzIlXNyoA

You are obsessed. :LOL:

[BigCatDaddy]

After reading the responses...Want to get a way?

LMAO No. I knew it was a long shot to get the point through.

[Shekelsteinberg]

Does anyone else get the impression that BigCat doesn't like Alex Smith?

[BigCatDaddy]

If there were 20 Payton Mannings available in the league I could understand your point... "Juts grab one of those guys". That is unfortunately not the case. 3-5 QB play at that level consistently... MAYBE. Its just the way it is. It would be great if we could grab one, but if it were that easy every franchise would have one.

You sure? Lots of people passing on a Franchise Guy in this thread.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=278460&highlight=roethlisberger

[FringeNC]

So the take-away from Big Ben's Big Day is that Alex Smith sucks. Okay.

I don't really remember, but I'm guessing the thread starter was a big Geno Smith supporter. The irony...

[BigCatDaddy]

So the take-away from Big Ben's Big Day is that Alex Smith sucks. Okay.

I don't really remember, but I'm guessing the thread starter was a big Geno Smith supporter. The irony...

Yes! That's EXACTLY what you should take from it :facepalm: He sucks, horrible, pitiful, worst fucking QB in the league bar none!

Wow. This used to be the place where the Chiefs could be discussed objectively and not some butt hurt super homer forum. It looks like Sandy Vag and his 49er brothers accomplished their mission of flipping this place. My bad fellas. Let me try to blend in here.

#AlexSmithTheGreatest #UndefeatedOnOut #SuperbowlBound

[Reerun_KC]

LMAO No. I knew it was a long shot to get the point through.
There is a way to get your point across intelligently vs trolling for attention to drive your agenda.

[BigCatDaddy]

There is a way to get your point across intelligently vs trolling for attention to drive your agenda.

Oh, the point was made and most got it. This board has just become to divisive to have any real dialogue. Any threat to one's view on a topic just causes them to dig those heels in a little more. Most replies in this thread for example.

It's cool. In a few years the image of Pioli and high draft picks will be long gone and being mediocre will grow tiring once again and posters will desire something a little more. i'll be waiting on the other side when the time has come for those to cross over that bridge once again. When average is tiresome and elite is what will be desired. I'll be waiting Runkc... oh I'll be waiting.

[Reerun_KC]

Oh, the point was made and most got it. This board has just become to divisive to have any real dialogue. Any threat to one's view on a topic just causes them to dig those heels in a little more. Most replies in this thread for example.

It's cool. In a few years the image of Pioli and high draft picks will be long gone and being mediocre will grow tiring once again and posters will desire something a little more. i'll be waiting on the other side when the time has come for those to cross over that bridge once more.
So glad you can be the martyr and stand up for us blind homer fans.

How will we event thank you?

[Bowser]

Would you have the opinion you do today of Alex if the defense hadn't shit the bed against the Colts in the playoffs?

[BigCatDaddy]

Would you have the opinion you do today of Alex if the defense hadn't shit the bed against the Colts in the playoffs?

Not really a fan of the "if" game. I deal in reality.

[chiefzilla1501]

I'm confused. Is this because the NFL is considering putting games in England? Also, who manages that clock? I hope it's not Andy Reid.

[BigMeatballDave]

I deal in reality.

LOL No you don't.

If you did you'd know you are powerless to change any of this.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Ben/Alex arguments aside, if that Steelers team played ANY defense, they'd be fucking filthy.

Solid running game, Antonio Brown is a beast, and Ben has found a new toy in Bryant.

If even part of that offense shows up when we play them, Alex will have his work cut out for him.

[BigCatDaddy]

LOL No you don't.

<b>If you did you'd know you are powerless to change any of this.</b>

Well sure, but that's never prevented anyone from discussing anything. I don't presume that I'll be able to persuade Andy Reid that Smith isn't the right guy to lead the team. If we did things your way nobody would be posting here, BigMeatDragonDave.

[OnTheWarpath15]

We can't change anything, so Kyle might as well shut the place down and save some cash.

[Saccopoo]

Yeah, and the same Brady that looked like ass against us. Every QB has a shit week at times, but they have a decent track record of winning some big games here and there.

Were you high as shit when you started this thread through the followups?

[Mav]

Ben/Alex arguments aside, if that Steelers team played ANY defense, they'd be fucking filthy.

Solid running game, Antonio Brown is a beast, and Ben has found a new toy in Bryant.

If even part of that offense shows up when we play them, Alex will have his work cut out for him.
This is a great post

[Rasputin]

Alex Smith needs to rape moar.

[BigMeatballDave]

Ben/Alex arguments aside, if that Steelers team played ANY defense, they'd be fucking filthy.

Solid running game, Antonio Brown is a beast, and Ben has found a new toy in Bryant.

.Have you followed this team at all?

Last night's game looks like an Outlier.

They lost at home to Tampa.

[OnTheWarpath15]

This is a great post

Thanks.

[Ceej]

This Steelers team smells like an 8-8 team.

We will be back here to remind you when Ben shits the bed because it's going to happen.

I'm a huge of BR too.

[BigMeatballDave]

This is a great post

Not really

[Bowser]

Not really a fan of the "if" game. I deal in reality.

The reality is you don't like Alex because he doesn't put up the flashy fantasy football numbers.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

There is a way to get your point across intelligently vs trolling for attention to drive your agenda.

Franchise QB is the agenda.

And no, the musings of Mayock regarding Alex count not.

Boy, people sure do live this shit week to week, with no regard for the length of the season.

But that's okay, I've plenty of time to wait for tomorrow.

[BigMeatballDave]

Franchise QB is the agenda.

And no, the musings of Mayock regarding Alex count not.

Boy, people sure do live this shit week to week, with no regard for the length of the season.

But that's okay, I've plenty of time to wait for tomorrow.

It's football. Just watch it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Have you followed this team at all?

Last night's game looks like an Outlier.

They lost at home to Tampa.

And we lost at home to Tennessee.

Your point?

Because the one you're trying to make makes you look ridiculous for lecturing people about how long you've been watching football.

If you watched as much as you claim, you'd know that it's a long season, and that teams goes through ups and downs.

Hell, everyone wants to crow about how badly we beat NE, but lets face it - we caught them at their lowest point. If we played them next week, we beat them MAYBE 4/10 times.

Pittsburgh has the smell of an 8-8 team, no doubt.

But it's because they don't play a lick of defense.

[O.city]

As long as the Chiefs can effectively rush the passer, they'll be in games.

Anymore, that's the only way to play defense. The Colts can't rush the passer right now and we're dropping 8 in coverage and Ben torched them.

[OnTheWarpath15]

This Steelers team smells like an 8-8 team.

We will be back here to remind you when Ben shits the bed because it's going to happen.

I'm a huge of BR too.

Of course it's going to happen. He's an NFL QB.

They aren't perfect every week.

The Steelers may well be an 8-8 team, but it sure as hell isn't because of the QB - a two-time SB Champion who happens to be the only guy in league history to throw for 500 yards in a game twice.

[Ceej]

Of course it's going to happen. He's an NFL QB.

They aren't perfect every week.

The Steelers may well be an 8-8 team, but it sure as hell isn't because of the QB - a two-time SB Champion who happens to be the only guy in league history to throw for 500 yards in a game twice.

I never claimed he was perfect. Dude played a nearly flawless game Sunday against a pretty salty defense. Kinda fluky to me.

Ben has also shit the bed quite a few times too. I think the key is his O-Line and they've been playing well and staying healthy.

Now, would I take BR over Alex? 10 out of 10 Times - no questions asked. I just like how the OP masks his disdain for Alex by waiting until BR throws for crazy records, against the Colts coincidentally. When AS might have played his best game ever last year on their turf, without our best offensive weapon/s.

And this team would be best in the league if they could play a lick of defense.

[TripleThreat]

thread is fail, wont even waste my time giving a actual response because the OP sure hasnt

[BigMeatballDave]

And we lost at home to Tennessee.

Your point?

LMAO Typical response. I was waiting for it. I was not talking about the Chiefs. Never mentioned them.

I quoted your post because you were fellating them.

My point of the 'lecture' was due to several here who push their agenda.

It's not serious discussion. We all know what the Chiefs need to do.

I don't need it shoved down my throat every fucking day.

And every damn thread turns into the same Alex sucks argument.

It's sad that the only real Chiefs discussion is with Bronco fans and who has the best pass rusher.

[BigMeatballDave]

Of course it's going to happen. He's an NFL QB.

They aren't perfect every week.

The Steelers may well be an 8-8 team, but it sure as hell isn't because of the QB - a two-time SB Champion who happens to be the only guy in league history to throw for 500 yards in a game twice.

Eh, Grbac once threw for 500 in a game.

[OnTheWarpath15]

LMAO Typical response. I was waiting for it. I was not talking about the Chiefs. Never mentioned them.

I quoted your post because you were fellating them.

My point of the 'lecture' was due to several here who push their agenda.

It's not serious discussion. We all know what the Chiefs need to do.

I don't need it shoved down my throat every fucking day.

And every damn thread turns into the same Alex sucks argument.

It's sad that the only real Chiefs discussion is with Bronco fans and who has the best pass rusher.

It had nothing to do with Alex, you stupid fuck.

I made a point to say, "Alex/Ben arguments aside..."

If your pussy wasn't bleeding, and you actually read posts instead of arguing shit that wasn't said, you'd realize that.

The Chiefs were convenient because *gasp* this is a Chiefs board, and everyone seems to think Tennessee is ignorable. Teams have bad weeks. Pointing to the Tampa game as evidence proves how fucking stupid you are.

Have a good night.

[BigMeatballDave]

It had nothing to do with Alex, you stupid fuck.

I made a point to say, "Alex/Ben arguments aside..."

If your pussy wasn't bleeding, and you actually read posts instead of arguing shit that wasn't said, you'd realize that.

The Chiefs were convenient because *gasp* this is a Chiefs board, and everyone seems to think Tennessee is ignorable. Teams have bad weeks. Pointing to the Tampa game as evidence proves how fucking stupid you are.

Have a good night. :rolleyes:

Thank you for the kind words.

Get some sleep, grouch.

[OnTheWarpath15]

:rolleyes:

Thank you for the kind words.

Get some sleep, grouch.

Don't be a dumbfuck, and you don't have to worry about it.

Keep posting like Splatbass Jr, and you'll keep getting treated like a dumbfuck.

[BigMeatballDave]

Don't be a dumbfuck, and you don't have to worry about it.

Keep posting like Splatbass Jr, and you'll keep getting treated like a dumbfuck.

I rest my case.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I rest my case.

What case is that, Counselor?

You still haven't made a point, other than showing that you don't actually read people's posts before you respond.

[BigMeatballDave]

What case is that, Counselor?

You still haven't made a point, other than showing that you don't actually read people's posts before you respond.

I struck a nerve, and I wasn't even trying.

Such hostility.


I don't get this pissy, and I have cancer, FFS.

LMAO

[BigCatDaddy]

What case is that, Counselor?

You still haven't made a point, other than showing that you don't actually read people's posts before you respond.

In his defense there was about a dozen people creating strawmen in this thread. He didnt have a monopoly on it but went with the theme.

[stevieray]

wewonsoIneedtofindsomethingtobitchabout

[O.city]

Winning is a powerful deodorant.

[OnTheWarpath15]

In his defense there was about a dozen people creating strawmen in this thread. He didnt have a monopoly on it but went with the theme.


Then he should quote one of those people, not the one who went out of his way to ignore all the fucking drama about our fucking QB.

Or, he can continue being a dipshit, and creating an argument where one didn't exist.

[stevieray]

Not really a fan of the "if" game. I deal in reality.

:LOL:

says the guy who deepthroated Geno a year after he was drafted by the Jets.

[BigCatDaddy]

:LOL:

says the guy who deepthroated Geno a year after he was drafted by the Jets.

Says thw dipshit that thinks he is Elvis. LMAO

[stevieray]

Says thw dipshit that thinks he is Elvis. LMAO

tapout accepted.

[BigCatDaddy]

tapout accepted.

Well yeah. When we start talking superior football intellect Stevieray is the the first poster that pops in everyones head :facepalm:

[Reerun_KC]

BigCatDaddy did you deep throat Geno?

[stevieray]

Well yeah. When we start talking superior football intellect Stevieray is the the first poster that pops in everyones head :facepalm:

I thought it was Elvis, genoholster...

...deflecting doesn't change the facts.

[Reerun_KC]

I thought it was Elvis, genoholster...



...deflecting doesn't change the facts.


Genoholster?

ROFL Well played

[Baby Lee]

ROFL

What you say

Yes! That's EXACTLY what you should take from it :facepalm: He sucks, horrible, pitiful, worst fucking QB in the league bar none!

Wow. This used to be the place where the Chiefs could be discussed objectively and not some butt hurt super homer forum. It looks like Sandy Vag and his 49er brothers accomplished their mission of flipping this place. My bad fellas. Let me try to blend in here.

#AlexSmithTheGreatest #UndefeatedOnOut #SuperbowlBound

What you mean

Well sure, but that's never prevented anyone from discussing anything. I don't presume that I'll be able to persuade Andy Reid that Smith isn't the right guy to lead the team. If we did things your way nobody would be posting here, BigMeatDragonDave.

What is remotely objective about the stance of 'Alex Smith, who isn't going anywhere and is really an impediment to a Chiefs win, is the one thing that MUST change for me to stop weeping my vag all over the board?'

[Baby Lee]

Winning is a powerful deodorant.

You just don't get it. Winning the SB is the ONLY deodorant. The other 260 some-odd games a year are just a complete waste of time for small minded people satisfied with a belly full of BBQ.

[Baby Lee]

Genoholster?

ROFL Well played

Might I humbly suggest chocogobbler?

[Reerun_KC]

Might I humbly suggest chocogobbler?


ROFL

[Reerun_KC]

Baby Lee on fire tonight....

[Mav]

Of course it's going to happen. He's an NFL QB.

They aren't perfect every week.

The Steelers may well be an 8-8 team, but it sure as hell isn't because of the QB - a two-time SB Champion who happens to be the only guy in league history to throw for 500 yards in a game twice.
Not true. Norm van Brocklin. 60 years ago, but it happened.

[Hootie]

I'm not 100% convinced we'd be a better team with Ben at QB ... and that's not me saying "Alex > Ben."

Ben and Aaron like to hold the ball in the pocket and extend plays and end up taking way too many sacks...I don't think that would work with our line in this offense.

Alex runs this offense all things considered really well...at least he has so far sans 1 game (a game in which I thought the playcalling was atrocious).

[Jimmya]

Quote of the day from Sirius Radio "the only people that believe Alex Smith is a top tier qb reside in the Kansas City area."

[Baby Lee]

Quote of the day from Sirius Radio "the only people that pay even a little bit of attention to the Chiefs reside in the Kansas City area."

FYP

Not saying Alex is 'elite' whatever that means today, certain to change tomorrow and again next week. Just that the overwhelming majority of what the rest of the nation knows about Alex is in the fantasy league write-up.

I WOULD wager that, win or lose, the fans of every one of the Chiefs opponents this year skew to the higher end of his assessment nationwide.

[temper11]

Just making a point that many didn't/don't seem to get. I thought a real life example might open a few eyes to the argument, but that's likely wishful thinking.

It seemed too perfect for people to not understand. Same Colts team gets down big, same Colts team comes storming back, one QB keeps on putting points on the board, one QB doesn't. Team with good QB wins, team with meh QB goes home in the playoffs while laying all blame at everyone else's feet. Do they deserve some blame? Sure! Can a great QB overcome situations ike that? Apparently they can. Should we still be looking for such QB instead of latching on to mediocre QB? IMO, we shouldn't settle.

How's that?

Because the absolute only difference between these two games were the QBs. Gotcha. Nothing else was different at all.

So by that measure... Smith is much better than Kaepernick because the Chiefs played the Broncos down to the wire while the 49ers were absolutely embarrassed by 5 head and crew. Smith must also clearly be better than Cutler and Dalton because he blew out the Patriots while those two QB's lost against that very same team. And Smith must be a far better QB than Russel Wilson because the Chiefs pounded the Rams and the Seahawks did not. Except that doesn't work because the Seahawks beat the Broncos... hmm...

Oh right, this is all completely ridiculous.

[DaneMcCloud]

FYP

Not saying Alex is 'elite' whatever that means today, certain to change tomorrow and again next week. Just that the overwhelming majority of what the rest of the nation knows about Alex is in the fantasy league write-up.

I WOULD wager that, win or lose, the fans of every one of the Chiefs opponents this year skew to the higher end of his assessment nationwide.

The Chiefs absolutely destroyed the Patriots on MNF and all anyone could talk about was Tom Brady and Belichick.

All of the NFL scribes praised Rivers and his "amazing play" and many thought they were the best team in the NFL. The Chiefs beat them on the road and all those same people could say was that San Diego had a bad day.

It never ends.

[Hammock Parties]

So Big Ben hasn't been the same since the Superbowl against the Cardinals, he has one amazing game and you say he's the Quarterback you want and every QB should aspire to be? I think you're giving him the Matt Flynn treatment just a bit. I'd rather have Alex than Big Ben.

Why are people so dense around here?

One game?

Get a clue:

http://i.imgur.com/Z7LrHqS.jpg

Big Ben is an absolute beast this season. He is having his best season ever.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's football. Just watch it.

Yeah, wake me when the Chiefs do something in life. I've been riding on the big red Rosa Parks bus for 25 years, and no longer wish to partake in "the struggle".

[lcarus]

I mean if BigCat's argument is that Big Ben is better than Alex, you won't get an argument from me at all. I just really don't get the Alex bashing when it comes to the playoff game. We could have won that game by handing off every play with a 24 point lead possibly.

[Bowser]

The Chiefs absolutely destroyed the Patriots on MNF and all anyone could talk about was Tom Brady and Belichick.

All of the NFL scribes praised Rivers and his "amazing play" and many thought they were the best team in the NFL. The Chiefs beat them on the road and all those same people could say was that San Diego had a bad day.

It never ends.

I noticed on the NFL Facebook feed after the Pats game that the NFL chose for their MUST SEE! moment of the game the part where Belichick forced Reid to take a timeout because of a possible fake punt/run the offense back on the field on fourth down. All the plays the Chiefs made in that game, and THAT was their "Must See" moment of the game. Dead serious.

Oh, and here's my official welcome back greeting to you. This place is worse than heroin, isn't it?

[ModSocks]

The Chiefs absolutely destroyed the Patriots on MNF and all anyone could talk about was Tom Brady and Belichick.

All of the NFL scribes praised Rivers and his "amazing play" and many thought they were the best team in the NFL. The Chiefs beat them on the road and all those same people could say was that San Diego had a bad day.

It never ends.

Listening to San Diego Sports radio, you'd think that the Chiefs we're the freaking Jaguars. Every morning i hear about how the Chiefs were the one team the Chargers were suppose to beat and that's the ONE loss that SD is going to regret etc.

They talk like KC was suppose to be an easy W.

I wanna call in and talk shit, but i know they'd never take my call. I'd never make it past the pre-call screening.

It's as if they don't realize that 3/4 of the Chiefs wins were complete blowouts, and they were within one score against the Donks and 9ers. Drives me fucking nuts the amount of disrespect they get. They're finally playing like a team that deserves respect, still not getting it.

[TEX]

Listening to San Diego Sports radio, you'd think that the Chiefs we're the freaking Jaguars. Every morning i hear about how the Chiefs were the one team the Chargers were suppose to beat and that's the ONE loss that SD is going to regret etc.

They talk like KC was suppose to be an easy W.

I wanna call in and talk shit, but i know they'd never take my call. I'd never make it past the pre-call screening.

It's as if they don't realize that 3/4 of the Chiefs wins were complete blowouts, and they were within one score against the Donks and 9ers. Drives me ****ing nuts the amount of disrespect they get. They're finally playing like a team that deserves respect, still not getting it.

I hear ya. Gotta WIN in the playoffs for that.

[BigCatDaddy]

1 hit wonder.

[TimBone]

1 hit wonder.
Very similar to Tebow, that one.

[Jimmya]

Steve Young "Right now Big Ben is easily the best Qb in the NFL!"

[Molitoth]

Steve Young "Right now Big Ben is easily the best Qb in the NFL!"

and that is with Todd Haley.

[Hootie]

Give me a break. He's not the best QB in the NFL because he had two great weeks. My God

[BigMeatballDave]

Give me a break. He's not the best QB in the NFL because he had two great weeks. My God

522 Yards!

Fantasy Rules!

[BigCatDaddy]

522 Yards!

Fantasy Rules!

Scoring points is over rated /CP

[BigMeatballDave]

Scoring points is over rated /CP

Idiot.

[BigCatDaddy]

Its too bad Alex only played fantasy football in the playoffs instead of winning which is what matters. right?

[BigMeatballDave]

Its too bad Alex only played fantasy football in the playoffs instead of winning which is what matters. right?

Yards are an overrated stat.

If you can't see that, you are just plain stupid.

Chiefs and Steelers have the same record, basically, with AS not throwing over 300 yards.

Peyton lost a SB to a QB who passed for less than 4000 yards to his 5400.

Please continue spouting your dumbassery. You make me feel like a savant.

And no, retards, I don't think AS is better than the rapist or any of these QBs.

[Wallcrawler]

There is a strong smell of some Andy Reidish dipshittery in this thread.

Ill explain.

Andy: I want to win the game, but I don't want to do it handing the ball off to Jamaal and Knile. I want to win by throwing the football every down!! Its just not good enough to win by simply turning and handing the ball off! Im an offensive guru dammit! I have a reputation to uphold. I wont look super smart if I just give the ball to my best player. I have to win through pass pass pass!!


CP: I want the Chiefs to win, but I don't want them to do it with Alex Smith going 24/28, moving the football efficiently and not throwing any touchdowns!! I want a QB that throws 400 yards a game and 4 TD!! I don't like these wins where he only misses 4-10 of his passes, doesn't get picked off, and doesn't throw a TD to a WR. Waaaah! Waaaaaah! When will we ever get a franchise QB, and not some guy who just runs deadly efficient, clock killing drives and doesn't turn the ball over? Why cant we just get some gunslinger that will turn the ball over as much as he throws tds!?


Hilarious.

Please, continue.

[BigCatDaddy]

Yards are an overrated stat.

If you can't see that, you are just plain stupid.

Chiefs and Steelers have the same record, basically, with AS not throwing over 300 yards.

Peyton lost a SB to a QB who passed for less than 4000 yards to his 5400.

Please continue spouting your dumbassery. You make me feel like a savant.

And no, retards, I don't think AS is better than the rapist or any of these QBs.

Oh... so moving the football is what is over rated.

[Easy 6]

Bit more worried about this game than I was two weeks ago, looks like they've found a way to make Haleys offense work.

[Molitoth]

Bit more worried about this game than I was two weeks ago, looks like they've found a way to make Haleys offense work.

I still blame Haley's failure in KC on Pioli forcing Cassel down his throat.

[O.city]

The steelers sure know how to find wrs

[ThaVirus]

Yards are an overrated stat.



If you can't see that, you are just plain stupid.



Chiefs and Steelers have the same record, basically, with AS not throwing over 300 yards.



Peyton lost a SB to a QB who passed for less than 4000 yards to his 5400.



Please continue spouting your dumbassery. You make me feel like a savant.



And no, retards, I don't think AS is better than the rapist or any of these QBs.


The Steelers have one more win than us.

[BigMeatballDave]

The Steelers have one more win than us.

LOL No shit?

That is why I said BASICALLY. They haven't had their bye.

[BigMeatballDave]

The steelers sure know how to find wrs

No argument there.

[BigMeatballDave]

I still blame Haley's failure in KC on Pioli forcing Cassel down his throat.

Sure didn't help his cause.

[O.city]

Teams that are losing pass more. Teams that are able to successfully pass more generally put up more points faster.

[BigMeatballDave]

Oh... so moving the football is what is over rated.

Of course not.

You just think it all must be through the air.

[ThaVirus]

LOL No shit?



That is why I said BASICALLY. They haven't had their bye.


That one win is a pretty big difference. Especially with our game next week looking like it could easily be a loss.

[Easy 6]

I still blame Haley's failure in KC on Pioli forcing Cassel down his throat.

Pioli poisoned the entire organization, no doubt... from terrible personnel decisions to morale and soul crushing pettiness, you name it.

[Chiefs Scratch]

I guess his jaw didn't bother him that bad.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Everything is rigged and overrated.

[BigCatDaddy]

I would love to see the QB's that CP would put in the HOF. TD's, yards, completions would all be ignored.

[BigMeatballDave]

That one win is a pretty big difference. Especially with our game next week looking like it could easily be a loss.

Ugh. You obviously missed the point of that post.

[BigMeatballDave]

I would love to see the QB's that CP would put in the HOF. TD's, yards, completions would all be ignored.

:facepalm:

[BigMeatballDave]

Everything is rigged and overrated.

Denver? Yes!

[BigCatDaddy]

:facepalm:

Come on man. The HOF voters still need to start looking at how a defense performed with that QB on the team, how few of INT's did he throw, nd how many 1st downs a guy ran for. Screw all that other fantasy stuff.

[Hootie]

Roeth has been unbelievable the last two weeks. He's still not in the first tier of NFL QBs ... firmly in the elite 2nd

[Jimmya]

Most teams would take Big Ben right now if they could.

[Hootie]

Most teams would take Big Ben right now if they could.
Gee, ya think?

[Rausch]

Roeth has been unbelievable the last two weeks. He's still not in the first tier of NFL QBs ... firmly in the elite 2nd

I think he's in the 1st. He's top 5 now.

And he's got a ton of talent around him...

[BigMeatballDave]

I think he's in the 1st. He's top 5 now.

And he's got a ton of talent around him...

Your Steeler homer notwithstanding...

:)

[Ceej]

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

[mikey23545]

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

http://www.discountsoccerjerseys.com/products/teeter_smiley.gif

[Mav]

Like I said. Pittsburgh is fraudulent.

[Ceej]

BIG BEEEENE RULESZ!!!!!

[BigCatDaddy]

What am I missing here? Ben 340 yards passing Alex about half that at 177 yards and we are mocking Ben? Please identify yourself as either troll or moran.

[SAUTO]

What am I missing here? Ben 340 yards passing Alex about half that at 177 yards and we are mocking Ben? Please identify yourself as either troll or moran.

And 30 of 43.


2ints.


And a garbage time 80 yard td.

[BigMeatballDave]

What am I missing here? Ben 340 yards passing Alex about half that at 177 yards and we are mocking Ben? Please identify yourself as either troll or moran.

This is stupid.

Since when are yards more important than points?

[RunKC]

Alex just beat an elite defense with a bottom 5 OL and WR corps..

[O.city]

Yards are overvalued.

[Gadzooks]

I had Ben stashed on my main FF team all season as a backup for Rivers' bye week.
He shit the bed. Fuck that guy.

[rabblerouser]

Alex just beat an elite defense with a bottom 5 OL and WR corps..

This is true.

[Imon Yourside]

Alex Smiff Sux!

[TimBone]

This is stupid.

Since when are yards more important than points?
He's grasping, man. Just show mercy and look away.

[Hammock Parties]

Alex just beat an elite defense with a bottom 5 OL and WR corps..

I'm happy with the result of the game but it's not accurate to say he beat them. He managed to not lose the game, however, and that means more than people think. It's not a backhanded compliment.

A lot of QBs would have been shitting turnovers in that game, and few would have had the speed to run it in at the end.

[BigCatDaddy]

This is stupid.

Since when are yards more important than points?

I don't know, Meat.

I keep getting various opinions on how you value a QB.

Pre 2013 I was told it was all about QB rating.

The first half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about wins.

The 2nd half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about yards and TD's.

Right now I'm hearing it's ability to run with the ball when needed and guys like Brees, Rogers, and Ben are only good for playing fantasy football.


It gets quite confusing.

[SAUTO]

I had Ben stashed on my main FF team all season as a backup for Rivers' bye week.
He shit the bed. Fuck that guy.

how many points did he score in your league?

[Mav]

I'm happy with the result of the game but it's not accurate to say he beat them. He managed to not lose the game, however, and that means more than people think. It's not a backhanded compliment.

A lot of QBs would have been shitting turnovers in that game, and few would have had the speed to run it in at the end.
As accurate a statement as you will find.

[Mav]

I don't know, Meat.

I keep getting various opinions on how you value a QB.

Pre 2013 I was told it was all about QB rating.

The first half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about wins.

The 2nd half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about yards and TD's.

Right now I'm hearing it's ability to run with the ball when needed and guys like Brees, Rogers, and Ben are only good for playing fantasy football.


It gets quite confusing.
It depends what you value. The goal for chiefs fans seem to be a playoff win. You can't get that with out regular season wins.

It depends on your taste.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't know, Meat.

I keep getting various opinions on how you value a QB.

Pre 2013 I was told it was all about QB rating.

The first half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about wins.

The 2nd half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about yards and TD's.

Right now I'm hearing it's ability to run with the ball when needed and guys like Brees, Rogers, and Ben are only good for playing fantasy football.


It gets quite confusing.

Still has nothing to do with yards.

Roethlisberger put up 340 yesterday, but only scored 13.

As good as Wilson is, he rarely puts up 300+ in a game. Once this season.

[BigCatDaddy]

Still has nothing to do with yards.

Roethlisberger put up 340 yesterday, but only scored 13.

As good as Wilson is, he rarely puts up 300+ in a game. Once this season.

That's not correct.

http://thesportingtruth.com/?p=1723

[mikey23545]

I don't know, Meat.

I keep getting various opinions on how you value a QB.

Pre 2013 I was told it was all about QB rating.

The first half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about wins.

The 2nd half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about yards and TD's.

Right now I'm hearing it's ability to run with the ball when needed and guys like Brees, Rogers, and Ben are only good for playing fantasy football.


It gets quite confusing.


It's doing whichever one of those things you need to do to win, idiot.

[BigMeatballDave]

That's not correct.

http://thesportingtruth.com/?p=1723

Whatever. I'm correct a metric ton more than you.

Stats are for losers.

[l4z4rd]

I don't know, Meat.

I keep getting various opinions on how you value a QB.

Pre 2013 I was told it was all about QB rating.

The first half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about wins.

The 2nd half of the 2013 season I was told it was all about yards and TD's.

Right now I'm hearing it's ability to run with the ball when needed and guys like Brees, Rogers, and Ben are only good for playing fantasy football.


It gets quite confusing.

yards are meaningless without points. Big Ben led his team to 2 FGs and a garbage time TD with a minute left.

[Ceej]

One team beat a potential playoff team on the road.

The other team embarrassed itself on the road against a bottom five team.

Gee, this is hard to figure out.

[BigCatDaddy]

2 x Superbowl winner that just put together one of the best 2 game stretches or a feller called Smittys? LMAO

[ModSocks]

2 x Superbowl winner that just put together one of the best 2 game stretches or a feller called Smittys? LMAO

Why does this matter?

Was Ben available for two 2nds?

[Hammock Parties]

I think the Steelers have a coaching problem. They can't seem to get up for the shitty teams and it haunts them.

[ThaVirus]

I think the Steelers have a coaching problem. They can't seem to get up for the shitty teams and it haunts them.


Are they still your Super Bowl pick or did you turn tail on them too?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I think the Steelers have a coaching problem. They can't seem to get up for the shitty teams and it haunts them.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/haleyfyou.gif

[Hammock Parties]

Are they still your Super Bowl pick or did you turn tail on them too?

No. I still think they'll get up when they need to.

Big Ben is playing too well.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Losses to the bucs and jets...ouch

[mdchiefsfan]

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/haleyfyou.gif

LMAO

[Pasta Little Brioni]

OMG YARDS!!!!! Didn't KC just put 24 on the Jets?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

LMAO

I like Thomas Jones thinking, "oh shit".

[BigMeatballDave]

No. I still think they'll get up when they need to.

Big Ben is playing too well.

I don't think so. Just way too inconsistent.

Losing to Tampa and NY. Plus, struggling to win vs Jacksonville.