alex smith fuck you

[TambaBerry]

Glad we have a qb who can't do shit

[TLO]

This is Alex's fault- but it's also the coaches, and every other fucking player on the team.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

It's the entire team's fault as much as Alex's. Horrible ****ing effort by this entire team.

[Ragged Robin]

reid lost the game in the first half, way too late to open up the offense late in the 3rd

[TambaBerry]

I knew exactly what would happen 5 yards pass across middle lose twenty seconds, take a sack and lose more time.

[KCCHIEFS27]

reid lost the game in the first half, way too late to open up the offense late in the 3rd

It actually wasnt too late. I mean, we did have a lead.

[ChiefRocka]

Oline failed tonight. But Alex leaves much to be desired in the two minute offense.

[Deberg_1990]

Totally forgetting he brought us back down 17-3.....

[Kman34]

Glad we have a qb who can't do shit

Really?.....We had the lead...the defense gave it up

[Red Dawg]

Finally our pathedic WR corps screwed us. You can't run a two minute drill with the dog shit we have outside. We needed Benjamin and drafted Ford. We are not contenders for anything but second or third.

[TambaBerry]

Really?.....We had the lead...the defense gave it up

Do you have any hope with under two to go and have Alex Smith drive us down the field for a win? I don't.

[NewChief]

Totally forgetting he brought us back down 17-3.....

This. Guy was 10-10 in the comeback stretch when Fat Andy actually opened up the fucking offense.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Finally our pathedic WR corps screwed us. You can't run a two minute drill with the dog shit we have outside. We needed Benjamin and drafted Ford. We are not contenders for anything but second or third.

Hammond was wide open on the pass to Kelce. Probably 15 yards

[Big Poppa Payne]

Totally forgetting he brought us back down 17-3.....

Throwing 5 yard check downs to JC

[wink91wink]

Driving 60 yards in the rain with 90 seconds left and no timeouts is not easy

[NewChief]

Finally our pathedic WR corps screwed us. You can't run a two minute drill with the dog shit we have outside. We needed Benjamin and drafted Ford. We are not contenders for anything but second or third.

So much blame to go around.

[Baby Lee]

Do you have any hope with under two to go and have Alex Smith drive us down the field for a win? I don't.

Yeah, but you're a well established gutless cunt.

[dls6501]

Totally forgetting he brought us back down 17-3.....

Yeah....because this matters even a little bit. SMH.

[In58men]

He's limited

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Not sure why we don't mix Kelce and Bowe in until we're absolutely forced to. It's just idiotic, and it makes us so predictable. We're afraid to throw downfield, like little pussies.

[ChiefRocka]

can't win em all. every team lays a stinker.

[ChiefsChoke010414]

Hammond was wide open on the pass to Kelce. Probably 15 yards

Would have dropped it.

Alex needs his defense to make him look good. Who actually thought he'd lead us down the field there?

[frozenchief]

Finally our pathedic WR corps screwed us. You can't run a two minute drill with the dog shit we have outside. We needed Benjamin and drafted Ford. We are not contenders for anything but second or third.

This

Deepest WR class in years if not decades and we draft Ford.

[TribalElder]

Parker is the loser tonight

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Do you have any hope with under two to go and have Alex Smith drive us down the field for a win? I don't.

Dude I'm sorry but this is the worst argument in the fucking books. Blame the entire loss on the last 2 minutes where Alex couldn't win the game and COMPLETELY ignore the fact we came back from 17-3 and almost won.

I get you're butthurt as fuck, but don't go full retard.

[Prison Bitch]

236 yards 2 Td 0 Int


Yeah. He was the problem, lulz

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You allow Carr to go on a game winning drive like that...fuck that

[Pablo]

He was a piece of shit. As were others. Nobody honestly expected him to drive us down the field to victory under pressure, did they?

[GloucesterChief]

Dorsey has to take some blame as well.

Best draft for WR perhaps ever.

Chiefs have weakness at WR. Chiefs have one pick in the first two rounds.

Does Dorsey draft playmaking WR? Nope. Dee Ford who has played maybe 10 snaps this season and is most famous for running away from Frank Gore.

[Iowanian]

Smith didn't play well tonight but he didn't give up 24 points, he didn't let the Raiders' rushers through the line like a hot chic at a club door rope....

[Pasta Little Brioni]

can't win em all. every team lays a stinker.

That was Tennessee. This is inexcusable by everyone.

[dls6501]

Driving 60 yards in the rain with 90 seconds left and no timeouts is not easy

It wasn't raining.

[TimBone]

Oline failed tonight. But Alex leaves much to be desired in the two minute offense.
Yeah. Overall I'm fine with Alex, but he has been puke in the two minute drill in KC.

[Reerun_KC]

How about fucking all you guys that sucked on Clayanus nut sack, bringing the curse over here to this team....

[NewChief]

Yeah. Overall I'm fine with Alex, but he has been puke in the two minute drill in KC.

Oline can't stop a basic fucking rush in 2 minute drill.

[wink91wink]

It wasn't raining.

Was raining the entire first half, the field was soaked, the ball is wet and slippery.

[Kman34]

Do you have any hope with under two to go and have Alex Smith drive us down the field for a win? I don't.

You really are a moron.....we had the game won and couldn't make a stop. Getting a TD with no timeouts and shitty WRs...and the o line playing like shit was against the odds...

[thabear04]

Yes Alex fault blame him right because football is not a team sport. Wanna blame Parker for keeping the drive alive for them. But we all riding Parker after the Bills game.

[TambaBerry]

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm butt hurt or a cunt or whatever. Alex will never win us anything ever. He drops back sees out wide receiver has half a step double clutches and checks down to Sherman in the flat. He's the gutless loser.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Absolutely sickening loss

[Reerun_KC]

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm butt hurt or a cunt or whatever. Alex will never win us anything ever. He drops back sees out wide receiver has half a step double clutches and checks down to Sherman in the flat. He's the gutless loser.


But you will blow Reid and let him off the hook?

[mdchiefsfan]

Throwing 5 yard check downs to JC

What fucking game were you watching!? You can't be fucking serious!

[Kman34]

I don't give a **** if people think I'm butt hurt or a **** or whatever. Alex will never win us anything ever. He drops back sees out wide receiver has half a step double clutches and checks down to Sherman in the flat. He's the gutless loser.

And you're a whiny crybaby...

[TambaBerry]

But you will blow Reid and let him off the hook?

I already have my fuck Andy Reid thread

[kcxiv]

This. Guy was 10-10 in the comeback stretch when Fat Andy actually opened up the ****ing offense.

He had no choice but too. Alex Smith was way way off target in the first quarter. That miss to JC early in the game was easily a 40 plus yard gainer. There was NO One there. You cant miss throws like that. The good qb's RARELY do, Alex seems to have bad accuracy during games.

I dont know, i just know the Raiders n Chiefs games are always close, but this was pathetic.

[TambaBerry]

And you're a whiny crybaby...

Why because I want my team to have a good qb running the show

[Bwana]

This

Deepest WR class in years if not decades and we draft Ford.

No shit, did he even play tonight.

[NewChief]

What ****ing game were you watching!? You can't be ****ing serious!

No shit. This idiocy is why I don't talk football on here much.

[DrRyan]

Parker having probably his worst game this year. Poe getting pushed backwards like he was on roller skates all night. Fisher (2) and McGlynn (1) combining for 3 holding penalties on top of the O line looking abysmal all night. Mauga frequently out of position, most notably on the long TD run. Those not yet mentioned sleep walking through the first half.

But hey, it was all Alex's fault... :banghead:

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

I don't give a **** if people think I'm butt hurt or a **** or whatever. Alex will never win us anything ever. He drops back sees out wide receiver has half a step double clutches and checks down to Sherman in the flat. He's the gutless loser.

Lmfao you're a fucking embarrassment. Ignore the fact we're a winning football team and still in the playoff race. Ignore the fact we made it to the playoffs last year and Alex played the game of his life and our non-existent defense gave away a 4 TD lead. That was Alex's fault, too, right? Ignore the fact that in this game he helped get us back in the lead and our defense shat the bed.

Entire team loss. Alex's inability to win back the game that we already had won with our "elite" defense is a small part of it.

[Baby Lee]

I don't give a fuck if people think I'm butt hurt or a cunt or whatever. Alex will never win us anything ever. He drops back sees out wide receiver has half a step double clutches and checks down to Sherman in the flat. He's the gutless loser.

And when we do win, you'll deserve a jug of warm AS piss over the head.

[Ming the Merciless]

He wasn't terrible....

He managed the game...

He is what he is.

I'd say that illegal formation (too many dudes on the line) in the hurry up was worse than anything alex did...

The shitty thing is alex isnt a 2 minute drill guy...

But most people already knew that....

Anyhow can't really pin the loss on alex since we had the lead

[Fish]

Poe could have stopped it on 4th down, but he got stood up and pushed back 5 yards....

[Baby Lee]

He wasn't terrible....

He managed the game...

He is what he is.

I'd say that illegal formation (too many dudes on the line) in the hurry up was worse than anything alex did...

The shitty thing is alex isnt a 2 minute drill guy...

But most people already knew that....

Anyhow can't really pin the loss on alex since he had already put us in the lead

FYP

[Pablo]

Alex was dog shit the entire first half and in the two minute drill. He deserves his hammering.

As do many other facets of this piss poor showing.

[Kman34]

Why because I want my team to have a good qb running the show

How bout a defense that makes a crunch time stop.... An o line that gives the shitty WRs time to get open....QB Play was not the only problem tonight

[NewChief]

Andy in post game presser: "we were too conservative all the way around" in first half. Gee. Sounds familiar. At least he recognizes it. Now will he act on it?

[Molitoth]

Feels nice not to give as many shits as you fuckers. I knew this team was a fraud. Just wait until the wild card game when they steal more of your dollars.

[TimBone]

Oline can't stop a basic fucking rush in 2 minute drill.
Yeah....they're puke in general.

[kccrow]

Alex Smith can suck my balls. Noodle armed fucking idiot that can't see open receivers if his life depended on it.

[petegz28]

Oakland just got us at the right time. We just came off of 2 good wins against 2 teams with good lines on both sides of the ball and then you play on 3 days rest on the road in bad weather. Fact is I think we were tired both mentally and physically and it showed. Plus some terrible play calling inside the 10.

[Ming the Merciless]

FYP

you caused me to read my post like 10 times

i drank only 2 small crowns

why am i missing

whatever subtle baby lee humor thingy you did

whyy

[petegz28]

Alex Smith can suck my balls. Noodle armed ****ing idiot that can't see open receivers if his life depended on it.

Yeah, the way he hit those open receivers on our TD drives really sucked ass.

[Jimmya]

Steve Young "Alex Smith is a middle of the pack qb, don't know if he will ever be able to carry a team if he has to."

[Kman34]

Alex Smith can suck my balls. Noodle armed ****ing idiot that can't see open receivers if his life depended on it.

You seen nice.....or stupid

[cdcox]

He was a piece of shit. As were others. Nobody honestly expected him to drive us down the field to victory under pressure, did they?

Nope.

I called Raiders in regulation once then cracked the 20.

I called Alex checking down the last 1;42 minutes.

Neither unit disappointed.

[kysirsoze]

Finally our pathedic WR corps screwed us. You can't run a two minute drill with the dog shit we have outside. We needed Benjamin and drafted Ford. We are not contenders for anything but second or third.

All of this. Completely.

[NewChief]

By the way: last play if game was on oline and coaching staff. They called a timing comeback. Oline didn't give time for play to happen. Alex gets rid of ball early to receiver who hasn't made his move because he's under pressure.



Totally staffs fault for calling that kind of play without a safety valve on that down.

[Baby Lee]

Anyhow can't really pin the loss on alex since we had the lead
.
Anyhow can't really pin the loss on alex since he had already put us in the lead

[Jim Lahey]

Still wondering why chickenshit Smith didn't throw to wide open Bowe in the endzone on 3rd down..

[cdcox]

Yeah, the way he hit those open receivers on our TD drives really sucked ass.

The TD drive he hit an open Bowe and put us up by 7? Yeah that was awesome.

[TambaBerry]

By the way Alex made a horrible throw to fasano and Charles made a great run after catch. If that's what you want out of your qb than I feel sorry for you

[In58men]

Steve Young "Alex Smith is a middle of the pack qb, don't know if he will ever be able to carry a team if he has to."

Steve Young is an idiot /truefans

[PunkinDrublic]

Hey about you learn about football first and then maybe start a thread that isn't totally fucking moronic.

[BigCatDaddy]

Steve Young "Alex Smith is a middle of the pack qb, don't know if he will ever be able to carry a team if he has to."

Don't know if = No fucking way.

[Sannyasi]

I can't blame Reid for wanting to play conservative. Every time he tries to open up the offense Alex lets him down.

[In58men]

Still wondering why chickenshit Smith didn't throw to wide open Bowe in the endzone on 3rd down..

He's worried about his own stats. Oh and he has no confidence in himself

[Ming the Merciless]

.

Oh yah

its a good thing you corrected that for all of the people who thought we scored defensive points

thank god for your assbergers

it has saved this thread

you are hero

[kccrow]

You seen nice.....or stupid

Not stupid, not blinded. Short-armed several passes tonight. Missed some key, open reads. Forced the ball into Kelce with a wide open Hammond underneath him. The list is growing this season extensively. Alex Smith does not consistently find open receivers. He's done it over and fucking over.

He could be a bit shy given the O-line, to take that extra split second to step up and hit a guy, but he has to start doing it. The Chiefs are not winning because of Alex Smith, they just aren't losing because of him either.

When the chips are down, I'd bet money against Alex Smith. I want to see better. He does need better, more consistent receivers, but that doesn't excuse his lapses.

I don't say, well my co-workers suck so its okay if I don't do my job well. Alex Smith needs to be better. So do several of his teammates.

[Jimmya]

Yes & you know more about qb's than Steve Young.... Lol

[NewChief]

By the way Alex made a horrible throw to fasano and Charles made a great run after catch. If that's what you want out of your qb than I feel sorry for you

Do you know how many times the Vermeil offense scored off a check down to the back? That's not a bad thing when the back is the best offensive weapon on your team.

[Kman34]

He's worried about his own stats. Oh and he has no confidence in himself

So.....the Alex stick is out of your ass already....

[Pablo]

Just get used to losing if there's any sort of come back/two minute situation. It's not worth feeling any other way.

I know we shouldn't have folded and surrendered a seven minute drive, but I just wish I could have felt reasonably confident with a sixty yard field and ninety seconds.

[Baby Lee]

Oh yah

its a good thing you corrected that for all of the people who thought we scored defensive points

thank god for your assbergers

it has saved this thread

you are hero

Drink some more.

[Sannyasi]

Do you know how many times the Vermeil offense scored off a check down to the back? That's not a bad thing when the back is the best offensive weapon on your team.

The Vermeil offense was much more balanced though. Trent at least had the threat of a long ball.

[RealSNR]

Still wondering why chickenshit Smith didn't throw to wide open Bowe in the endzone on 3rd down..

He threw it away like we were about to go up 10 points, not 3.

Christ, you rolled out, at least try to tuck it and run with it.

His dick lately has shrunk up so far into his pubic bone that it's turned into a vagina these past two games. We got away with it last week because our defense was nails again. This time they weren't as good, and he didn't do what he had to.

[In58men]

So.....the Alex stick is out of your ass already....


I never praised him. Seattle was a TEAM effort. Smith only had 109 yards 0 TDS that game. I never once said he was the reason

[Ming the Merciless]

Do you know how many times the Vermeil offense scored off a check down to the back?

42

[Ming the Merciless]

Drink some more.

I will drink a toast

to baby lee's hero

alex 'put us in the lead for a while' smith

champion of the checkdown

for not everyone can be a long baller

cheers!

[NewChief]

Not stupid, not blinded. Short-armed several passes tonight. Missed some key, open reads. Forced the ball into Kelce with a wide open Hammond underneath him. The list is growing this season extensively. Alex Smith does not consistently find open receivers. He's done it over and ****ing over.

He could be a bit shy given the O-line, to take that extra split second to step up and hit a guy, but he has to start doing it. The Chiefs are not winning because of Alex Smith, they just aren't losing because of him either.

When the chips are down, I'd bet money against Alex Smith. I want to see better. He does need better, more consistent receivers, but that doesn't excuse his lapses.

I don't say, well my co-workers suck so its okay if I don't do my job well. Alex Smith needs to be better. So do several of his teammates.

Your problem is that you say when the chips are down you'd get against Smith. What you should say is that when the chips are down you'd bet against the chiefs. Way too much import on QB while ignoring team.

[Molitoth]

Still can't lead the Chiefs to a come back win.

[ThaVirus]

He was a piece of shit. As were others. Nobody honestly expected him to drive us down the field to victory under pressure, did they?


Not at all.

That's 0-3 on game-ending drives to win the game.

[Baby Lee]

The Vermeil offense was much more balanced though. Trent at least had the threat of a long ball.

Trent, Vermeil, Gonzo, even Priest.

None ever won an important game for the Chiefs.

But by all means, pine away, pussy.

[penbrook]

It's the entire team's fault as much as Alex's. Horrible ****ing effort by this entire team.

It's not Jamaals fault

[OldSchool]

He threw it away like we were about to go up 10 points, not 3.

Christ, you rolled out, at least try to tuck it and run with it.

His dick lately has shrunk up so far into his pubic bone that it's turned into a vagina these past two games. We got away with it last week because our defense was nails again. This time they weren't as good, and he didn't do what he had to.

Did you even see the play dumbass? Bowe came open when Smith was still turning around, the defender was already rapidly closing on Bowe. By the time Smith sets his feet and throws that ball, the defender would be in place to make a play on it.

[BigCatDaddy]

Do you know how many times the Vermeil offense scored off a check down to the back? That's not a bad thing when the back is the best offensive weapon on your team.

They scored a lot every way imaginable. Except on defense :facepalm:

[OldSchool]

Still can't lead the Chiefs to a come back win.

SD. :thumb:

[RealSNR]

Your defense can't always bail you out. They're gonna go full retard sometimes. Or they're gonna get injured. Or whatever.

You have GOT to have a QB that can get those clutch scores when you need them. To make those reads in pressure situation and be crisp when shit counts. Alex looked AWFUL tonight. God awful.

[Kman34]

I never praised him. Seattle was a TEAM effort. Smith only had 109 yards 0 TDS that game. I never once said he was the reason

You know what? I'm too drunk, tired, and pissed off to argue with you dude...

[Mav]

He threw it away like we were about to go up 10 points, not 3.

Christ, you rolled out, at least try to tuck it and run with it.

His dick lately has shrunk up so far into his pubic bone that it's turned into a vagina these past two games. We got away with it last week because our defense was nails again. This time they weren't as good, and he didn't do what he had to.

Im sorry. When the Chiefs went up, with all of the money, and talent on the defense, that should of been game over. The offense isn't built for quick strikes. We all fucking knew that.

the offense did their job. They got the lead. The defense didn't do theirs.

it was a complete team loss.

[Sannyasi]

Trent, Vermeil, Gonzo, even Priest.

None ever won an important game for the Chiefs.

But by all means, pine away, pussy.

So they've won exactly as many meaningful games as Reid and Smith, then? Go eat a dick.

[OldSchool]

Also that final pass was all on Frankie Hammond. I can see why he didn't start over AJ when Avery went down. The pass was beyond the 1st down marker, Frankie just ran the shittiest comeback route that I've ever seen from a professional WR. Smith threw that past trusting that he would complete his route; he didn't. Game over.

[RealSNR]

Did you even see the play dumbass? Bowe came open when Smith was still turning around, the defender was already rapidly closing on Bowe. By the time Smith sets his feet and throws that ball, the defender would be in place to make a play on it.

Smith absolutely could have thrown it earlier. He saw Bowe but waited that split second, and when that happened, the defender had caught up enough.

It would have been an off-balance throw, and possibly risky, but he could have done it.

Or he could have just tried to get the fucking TD himself. That would have been cool, too

[Baby Lee]

So they've won exactly as many meaningful games as Reid and Smith, then? Go eat a dick.

Be careful, drunky . . . Reid and Smith? Or Reid and Smith in their ONE SEASON with the Chiefs.

Give Vermiel credit he won elsewhere.

Give Priest credit, he watched important games elsewhere as well

[In58men]

You know what? I'm too drunk, tired, and pissed off to argue with you dude...


Alex Smith wasn't why we beat Seattle just know that. Our defense contained Lynch

[Ming the Merciless]

the offense did their job. They got the lead. The defense didn't do theirs.

it was a complete team loss.

I agree , but that hurry up at the end was pathetic...not blaming everything on alex..like that 'illegal formation' was vomitous

but they had like 1:42 on the clock and a decent field IIRC

then they got gifted a first down with 2 holds and a hands to the face on the same play....

I didnt look it over but that last set of downs was just terribad

[RealSNR]

Im sorry. When the Chiefs went up, with all of the money, and talent on the defense, that should of been game over. The offense isn't built for quick strikes. We all fucking knew that.

the offense did their job. They got the lead. The defense didn't do theirs.

it was a complete team loss.

The defense has been doing its job for 4 straight weeks when it counted. It was Alex's turn this week and he fucked up bad.

[dls6501]

the offense did their job. They got the lead. The defense didn't do theirs.

it was a complete team loss.

Your last sentence completely contradicts the others.

[Ming the Merciless]

Be careful, drunky . . . Reid and Smith? Or Reid and Smith in their ONE SEASON with the Chiefs.


actually your assbergers called and told me it was 1.6875 seasons

[Mav]

I agree , but that hurry up at the end was pathetic...not blaming everything on alex..like that 'illegal formation' was vomitous

but they had like 1:42 on the clock and a decent field IIRC

then they got gifted a first down with 2 holds and a hands to the face on the same play....

I didnt look it over but that last set of downs was just terribad

it was beyond pathetic.

[Gravedigger]

Maybe it's just when Alex goes back to California that he plays like shit and can't take a team downfield for the win. First San Fran, now Oakland, California is cursed to Alex Smith.

[Jim Lahey]

He threw it away like we were about to go up 10 points, not 3.

Christ, you rolled out, at least try to tuck it and run with it.

His dick lately has shrunk up so far into his pubic bone that it's turned into a vagina these past two games. We got away with it last week because our defense was nails again. This time they weren't as good, and he didn't do what he had to.

I haven't been impressed with a damn thing he's done this season. He's literally regressing before our eyes. The reason our WRs have 0 TDs isn't because they suck, it's because Alex simply refuses to have anything to do with anything outside the numbers.

I defended him before the season after his 2nd half of last season but this season he's done nothing to justify any reason to back him anymore.

[Kman34]

Alex Smith wasn't why we beat Seattle just know I that. Our defense contained Lynch

Well I wish they would have contained that fucking #45 for the fucking raiders...

[Molitoth]

Maybe it's just when Alex goes back to California that he plays like shit and can't take a team downfield for the win. First San Fran, now Oakland, California is cursed to Alex Smith.

Tell me.... in what state has Alex Smith led his team from behind for the game winning drive?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Team effort abortion

[kcjayhawks5]

I just don't understand andy's clock management at all. We call timeouts at the worst times

[cdcox]

Im sorry. When the Chiefs went up, with all of the money, and talent on the defense, that should of been game over. The offense isn't built for quick strikes. We all ****ing knew that.

the offense did their job. They got the lead. The defense didn't do theirs.

it was a complete team loss.

If only we had a top 10 QB that could have bailed us out when the defense had a bad game and then got burned on a bad call.

[Molitoth]

I haven't been impressed with a damn thing he's done this season. He's literally regressing before our eyes. The reason our WRs have 0 TDs isn't because they suck, it's because Alex simply refuses to have anything to do with anything outside the numbers.

I defended him before the season after his 2nd half of last season but this season he's done nothing to justify any reason to back him anymore.

But, but, he WINS!!!!!

[aturnis]

If you need a touchdown, have time for one drive, abd Alex Smith is your quarterback...

You're fucked.

[Mav]

The defense has been doing its job for 4 straight weeks when it counted. It was Alex's turn this week and he ****ed up bad.

The fuck he did. The defense sat there and let the Raiders minus their best offensive weapon, have a 8 minute td drive after Alex Smith and the offense went down and got the fucking lead.

And then he was left with 1:42 to try to go 60 yards with an offense that has basically NO ability to run a quick strike offense?

And you want to pin that on one GUY?

Come on now, yeah, alex didn't play that last possession well, but lets be realistic. That's not his game, and this offense isn't built that way.

[Ming the Merciless]

Tell me.... in what state has Alex Smith led his team from behind for the game winning drive?

hes done it something like 16 times in 10 years or whatnot

so probably a few states

[Gravedigger]

Tell me.... in what state has Alex Smith led his team from behind for the game winning drive?

NOT California.... that's for sure.... I dunno, Seattle was ahead you could say.

[Pablo]

If only we had a top 10 QB that could have bailed us out when the defense had a bad game and then got burned on a bad call.

Don't go chasing waterfalls.

[Mav]

If only we had a top 10 QB that could have bailed us out when the defense had a bad game and then got burned on a bad call.

Yeah, I mean, they were down 14-0, and came back to take the lead without the help of the defense.

Then, after getting the lead in the fourth quarter, your defense that has Poe, Houston, Hali, and berry on it, allows a full back, REECE, and Derek Carr, a rookie to run an 8 minute td drive.

Any qb should be able to overcome that.

OF COURSEEEEE.

[kcpasco]

Not gonna blame Alex because he is exactly what he is.

[Baby Lee]

actually your assbergers called and told me it was 1.6875 seasons

That's the spirit, . . . Motherfuck Alex and Andy. They haven't won a single playoff game in the 2014 season.

ROFL ROFL ROFL - glug glug :toast:

[Ming the Merciless]

And then he was left with 1:42 to try to go 60 yards

Thats what QB's need to do to be more than just a game manager

just syaing

[OldSchool]

Smith absolutely could have thrown it earlier. He saw Bowe but waited that split second, and when that happened, the defender had caught up enough.

It would have been an off-balance throw, and possibly risky, but he could have done it.

Or he could have just tried to get the ****ing TD himself. That would have been cool, too

Sure, if he didn't have his back turned to Bowe he could have set his feet and thrown it before the defender got there.

Look at the circumstances. You're down in the red zone and you have a surefire field goal to take the lead. Your defense has been pretty good for the most part in the 2nd half. Do you risk the off-balanced throw with a defender closing, knowing that you're not going to get as much velocity as you want on the ball due to the conditions? Or do you throw it away and take the sure lead with a defense that has been money in the 4th quarter?

It just turned out that tonight was a night where the defense wasn't going to be good enough to stop a rookie QB and his non-existent running game on a 7+ minute drive.

[Mav]

hes done it something like 16 times in 10 years or whatnot

so probably a few states

He did it TWICE in California, in a playoff game, matter of fact, in the SAME game.

[ViperVisor]

Also that final pass was all on Frankie Hammond. I can see why he didn't start over AJ when Avery went down. The pass was beyond the 1st down marker, Frankie just ran the shittiest comeback route that I've ever seen from a professional WR. Smith threw that past trusting that he would complete his route; he didn't. Game over.

It feels like a timing route and he was in the Bowe role as opposed to his usual decoy route role. The pass was throw to a spot.
If he slipped he has an excuse. Otherwise he gave up on the route. It was one of those go past the marker, come back and grab it and get out for the 1st down.

[PunkinDrublic]

That first 4th and 1 I don't think Carr got enough. Favorable spot IMO.

[RealSNR]

The fuck he did. The defense sat there and let the Raiders minus their best offensive weapon, have a 8 minute td drive after Alex Smith and the offense went down and got the fucking lead.

And then he was left with 1:42 to try to go 60 yards with an offense that has basically NO ability to run a quick strike offense?

And you want to pin that on one GUY?

Come on now, yeah, alex didn't play that last possession well, but lets be realistic. That's not his game, and this offense isn't built that way.

Dude, seriously, stop this shit. The Clay thing was cute and funny, but it's time to shove that aside.

Alex Smith's ass got crowned around here on our winning streak, and that's clearly undeserved.

Did you watch tonight's game and say "That's my QB?"

He had a fucking awful game. Against an 0-10 division opponent. This isn't just some 0-10 NFC squad. It was a division opponent. Those games matter and shit.

[RunKC]

How about fuck you Ron Parker? That 3rd and 20 failure killed us as well as his other whiffs

[Mav]

Thats what QB's need to do to be more than just a game manager

just syaing

Alex Smith is a game manager. The Chiefs offense is built around that fact. So expecting this team to go 60 yards in 90 seconds isn't realistic.

[RealSNR]

Sure, if he didn't have his back turned to Bowe he could have set his feet and thrown it before the defender got there.

Look at the circumstances. You're down in the red zone and you have a surefire field goal to take the lead. Your defense has been pretty good for the most part in the 2nd half. Do you risk the off-balanced throw with a defender closing, knowing that you're not going to get as much velocity as you want on the ball due to the conditions? Or do you throw it away and take the sure lead with a defense that has been money in the 4th quarter?

It just turned out that tonight was a night where the defense wasn't going to be good enough to stop a rookie QB and his non-existent running game on a 7+ minute drive.

What the fuck are you talking about with this back turned to Bowe shit? Was he looking at the other fucking end zone?

No he wasn't. He SAW Bowe when he was open and had time to make a throw. He hesitated.

[kcjayhawks5]

Not gonna blame Alex because he is exactly what he is.

He needs to not be such a fucking pussy and ball out instead of taking sacks and refusing to take any sort of risk whatsoever. Our receivers aren't world beaters but my god they aren't complete garbage.

[New World Order]

Yeah, I mean, they were down 14-0, and came back to take the lead without the help of the defense.

Then, after getting the lead in the fourth quarter, your defense that has Poe, Houston, Hali, and berry on it, allows a full back, REECE, and Derek Carr, a rookie to run an 8 minute td drive.

Any qb should be able to overcome that.

OF COURSEEEEE.


They scored 24 points. That's pretty much the average allowed in the NFL.

[Pablo]

The modern NFL requires your qb to have quick strike capacity. We know defense has been devalued. We know PI bullshit will always pop up. We're a team built to win two decades ago. We've been doing a great job so far, but the lack of a real passing offense is unforgivable.

Bring me Dorsey's head!

[cdcox]

Yeah, I mean, they were down 14-0, and came back to take the lead without the help of the defense.

Then, after getting the lead in the fourth quarter, your defense that has Poe, Houston, Hali, and berry on it, allows a full back, REECE, and Derek Carr, a rookie to run an 8 minute td drive.

Any qb should be able to overcome that.

OF COURSEEEEE.

How many points did Oakland score from the point they were down 14-0? Is that what you call nothing from the defense?

[TripleThreat]

This was easily a team loss.

Alex F'ed up ROYALY on 2 plays in my mind. 3rd down bowe was open IMO at the goal line, you HAVE to make that throw, you just HAVE TO. Then the 4th down play, Stop trying to lead these dumb receivers to where they are SUPPOSED to go, they obviously don't understand turning and catching to go out of bounds so put it in his chest.

Go up by 7, there and if the throw doesn't happen you still go up by 3 just like you did with your throw that went out of bounds..

The one good thing we can hope for is Alex learned to take his chances like on the 3rd down when it was 17-17 at the endzone. Don't settle for 3 and hope for a defensive stop, end the Fing game.

This raiders loss is the type of loss that will either push our team on a New York giants playoff run where we stomp the Patriots in the AFC championship game, or we just fumble and lose the rest of the season..

I see us Marching into the playoffs after a loss like this with our eyes RED and bleeding for blood

[RealSNR]

Alex Smith is a game manager. The Chiefs offense is built around that fact. So expecting this team to go 60 yards in 90 seconds isn't realistic.

Then we shouldn't expect him to ever win us a Super Bowl.

Which means we should probably be shopping for some young QBs in this draft.

[cdcox]

The modern NFL requires your qb to have quick strike capacity. We know defense has been devalued. We know PI bullshit will always pop up. We're a team built to win two decades ago. We've been doing a great job so far, but the lack of a real passing offense is unforgivable.

Bring me Dorsey's head!

Four decades. Alex Smith = Bob Greise.

[DaneMcCloud]

Alex Smith is a game manager. The Chiefs offense is built around that fact. So expecting this team to go 60 yards in 90 seconds isn't realistic.

So in reality, he isn't worth $17 million per year.

It's like paying $6 per year to Ron Parker while pretending he's a #1 CB.

[Ming the Merciless]

Alex Smith is a game manager. The Chiefs offense is built around that fact. So expecting this team to go 60 yards in 90 seconds isn't realistic.

and youre cool with that?

[cdcox]

Alex Smith is a game manager. The Chiefs offense is built around that fact. So expecting this team to go 60 yards in 90 seconds isn't realistic.

Earlier this week he was a top 10 QB!

[Mav]

Dude, seriously, stop this shit. The Clay thing was cute and funny, but it's time to shove that aside.

Alex Smith's ass got crowned around here on our winning streak, and that's clearly undeserved.

Did you watch tonight's game and say "That's my QB?"

He had a ****ing awful game. Against an 0-10 division opponent. This isn't just some 0-10 NFC squad. It was a division opponent. Those games matter and shit.

Of course I said that's my qb. even in the first half when he looked like absolute aids. And I said that's my defense when they gave up 112 yards, and two tds on 3 carries to a guy no one has ever heard of.

I consider all the variables. Road Thursday game, shitty rain, defense was off, offense was off, THE PUNTING WAS OFF, DAT played awful on special teams.

Never in my wildest dreams would I think that this defense would give up a 8 minute drive in the fourth quarter to ANYONE, let alone DEREK FUCKING CARR.

I didn't expect the Chiefs to score on that last drive. The offense isn't built that way, and you KNOW it, I know it.

[kccrow]

I'm very much with SNR on this... that said he can continue the argument while I go to bed for work.

[ViperVisor]

it was beyond pathetic.

Kelce Drop *pass was a little to the defender, would be on Smith if it was batted by the DB but it wasn't*
McGlynn turns away from Mack blitzing right though his front door.

[banyon]

Alex Smith wasn't why we beat Seattle just know that. Our defense contained Lynch

Seattle has struggled on the road quite a bit lately. Crushed by the Rams, and barely beat the Raiders a couple of weeks ago. I think that game was more about their road suckage.

[Mav]

Then we shouldn't expect him to ever win us a Super Bowl.

Which means we should probably be shopping for some young QBs in this draft.

if that's how you feel. I don't feel that way. I feel that if the Chiefs have the lead in the fourth quarter, that the defense will make a stop.

I think just about every chiefs fan felt that when the Chiefs went up, that the game was over.

[dj56dt58]

How about bowe and Kelce make those catches that teams make against kc all the fucking time?

[In58men]

Seattle has struggled on the road quite a bit lately. Crushed by the Rams, and barely beat the Raiders a couple of weeks ago. I think that game was more about their road suckage.


Well I know one thing. Alex Smith wasn't the reason why we won. Look at the points we put up and Smith had 0 TDs

[Jerm]

Smith infuriates me but I'm more pissed at Reid and Dorsey for hitching their wagon to him knowing his limitations...

[Jim Lahey]

The reason this team was on a 5 game win streak was because of great team play. To sit there and defend Alex Smith for not being able to take an offense with playmakers like Charles and Kelce 60 yards in 1:30 is unbelievably idiotic. Sometimes NFL QBs have to grab the game by the nuts and take shit over. The great ones do. The good ones sometimes do. Then there's Alex Smith. He never does.

[Mav]

Earlier this week he was a top 10 QB!
I still feel that way. To be over reactionary like you, would mean that Andrew Luck is not a top ten qb, nor is ben Roethlisberger, nor is Peyton Manning.

but you are simple. You always have been. Almost every team loses a game or two a season that they shouldn't lose. The patriots lost to the Chiefs and Dolphins, the Broncos lost to the Rams. Are those games you thought they should of lost?

Of course not. it happens. Any given sunday, yada yada yada, and apparently on Thursdays.

[Pablo]

Smith infuriates me but I'm more pissed at Reid and Dorsey for hitching their wagon to him knowing his limitations...
That's the real problem. They're the architects of this brilliant offense and team at large.

[ViperVisor]

How about bowe and Kelce make those catches that teams make against kc all the ****ing time?

Bowe pass wasn't catchable. Smith didn't get enough air on it and field condition probably made it tough for Bowe to dive hard for it.

[Pablo]

I don't know that I've ever thought cd to be 'simple'.

[Mav]

The reason this team was on a 5 game win streak was because of great team play. To sit there and defend Alex Smith for not being able to take an offense with playmakers like Charles and Kelce 60 yards in 1:30 is unbelievably idiotic. Sometimes NFL QBs have to grab the game by the nuts and take shit over. The great ones do. The good ones sometimes do. Then there's Alex Smith. He never does.

A franchise like San Francisco that has 3 hall of fame qbs, you know who owns the MOST come from behind victories in a season.

Alex Fucking Smith.

6 in 2011

That stat alone states that you don't know what you are talking about.

[Mav]

I don't know that I've ever thought cd to be 'simple'.

lol, says another guy I would consider very simple.

[RealSNR]

if that's how you feel. I don't feel that way. I feel that if the Chiefs have the lead in the fourth quarter, that the defense will make a stop.

I think just about every chiefs fan felt that when the Chiefs went up, that the game was over.

Against an 0-10 Raiders team when the offense has been rolling and my QB is something like 12 for his last 13 throws, I expect my QB to score a TD in 90 seconds there.

Sorry. Lofty fucking expectations, I'm sure

[Ming the Merciless]

A franchise like San Francisco that has 3 hall of fame qbs, you know who owns the MOST come from behind victories in a season.

Alex ****ing Smith.

6 in 2011

That stat alone states that you don't know what you are talking about.

yah but thats because they had to come from behind because they SUCKED SO MUCH ASS!!!@@!!


hahaha


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[ChiefsLV]

Everytime this team loses, you guys blame Alex Smith. There is like no other reason ever that the team loses.

[BigCatDaddy]

and youre cool with that?

Well like a lot of the guys here he is an Alex Smith fan and not a KC Chief so yes... yes he is.

[Mav]

yah but thats because they had to come from behind because they SUCKED SO MUCH ASS!!!@@!!


hahaha


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1318.gif

they were 13-3

[Pablo]

lol, says another guy I would consider very simple.

This is funny because you're typing it.

[New World Order]

How about when everyone praised Alex Smith and his 177 yard passing game against the Bills.

177 yards

[Jim Lahey]

A franchise like San Francisco that has 3 hall of fame qbs, you know who owns the MOST come from behind victories in a season.

Alex ****ing Smith.

6 in 2011

That stat alone states that you don't know what you are talking about.

Were talking about 2014 with the Kansas City Chiefs dipshit. How many fucking comebacks does he have in over a year and a half in a Chiefs uniform? I'll wait..

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mav this effort tonight was a joke by everyone including Alex. That slow start where he missed several easy throws was killer.

[cdcox]

The offense isn't built that way, and you KNOW it, I know it.

Fatal flaw. Emanuel Sanders the whole offense. Then curb stomp it. Then eviscerate it Braveheart style. Burn it to the ground and cast a voodoo curse on the ashes. Napalm next. Then antifreeze. Spread ebola on it. Nuke it from orbit.

You have to EXPECT be able to score a TD against an 0-10 team in that situation.

[Ming the Merciless]

Everytime this team loses, you guys blame Alex Smith. There is like no other reason ever that the team loses.

you forgot about Cassel, Thigpen, Croyle, and the lineage of stellar QB's we have had since 1993

[Mav]

Well like a lot of the guys here he is an Alex Smith fan and not a KC Chief so yes... yes he is.

Still going with that huh?

see its when you do stupid shit like this that I really just want to tell you to go fuck yourself. And why you are so defensive, when you were just in another thread trying to give yourself a blow job about how you never jumped on the bandwagon confuses me.

I don't honestly even care. teams lose games. Hell, most of the people in here griping like bitter bitches, didn't expect this team to win 6 games this year, so them acting all ass hurt, is HILARIOUS to me.

[Pablo]

Fatal flaw. Emanuel Sanders the whole offense. The curb stomp it. Then eviscerate it Braveheart style. Burn it to the ground and cast a voodoo curse on the ashes. Napalm next. Then antifreeze. Spread ebola on it. Nuke it from orbit.

You have to EXPECT be able to score a TD against an 0-10 team in that situation.

You're asking for quite a bit from a 7-3 contender there, simpleton.

[BeeHo]

lolol

i wish reid/sutton and alex smith would leave this team. so to see the chiefs go 2-14 again and then remind how good you supposed fans have it right now.

[Ming the Merciless]

they were 13-3

i was joshing bruh

i tried to make it obvious...

this is a no win battle...

you might wanna let everyone sober up and get the rage of losing to the fade out

tomorrow cooler heads will prevail...

[Mav]

Mav this effort tonight was a joke by everyone including Alex. That slow start where he missed several easy throws was killer.

I stated that earlier. Alex was absolute aids in the first half. The worst half I have ever seen him play. Awful, terrible. Hideous.

[RealSNR]

A franchise like San Francisco that has 3 hall of fame qbs, you know who owns the MOST come from behind victories in a season.

Alex Fucking Smith.

6 in 2011

That stat alone states that you don't know what you are talking about.

I really wish he would take some of that success he had in San Francisco and share it with us.

But no. He'd rather sacrifice himself than let a mediocrity share in the smallest part of his glory.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p01h1mkl.jpg

[Mav]

i was joshing bruh

i tried to make it obvious...

this is a no win battle...

you might wanna let everyone sober up and get the rage of losing to the fade out

tomorrow cooler heads will prevail...

im kinda venting too bro. Im as angry as they are. Thanks boss.

[Jim Lahey]

Everytime this team loses, you guys blame Alex Smith. There is like no other reason ever that the team loses.

It would just be soooo fucking awesome if we could see a QB take over the final 2 minutes for a game winning drive..

[OldSchool]

Smith infuriates me but I'm more pissed at Reid and Dorsey for hitching their wagon to him knowing his limitations...

Jesus this fan base is mentally deficient.

Starting receivers tonight:

Dwayne Bowe
Frankie Hammond Jr
Junior Hemingway
Albert Wilson

Bowe was double teamed on that final play, they know that Bowe is the only legitimate WR on the team.

Frankie Hammond Jr. couldn't start over AJ freaken Jenkins when he was healthy.

Junior Hemingway has AIDS.

Albert Wilson is a rookie.

Who was Smith supposed to throw the ball to on that 4th and 16 play? The only legitimate target that he had out there that was beyond the 1st down marker was Bowe, and he was double covered with tight coverage.

Before you say Kelce, he was inexplicably sitting on the sidelines for that final play.

Who was going to win their matchup among Hammond, Hemingway, and Wilson?

Smith chose to throw the deep comeback to Hammond who ran the shittiest comeback route that the NFL has ever seen and the ball fell incomplete.

Limitations? Get some damn receivers who know how to run a simple fucking route for a 1st down.

[cdcox]

i was joshing bruh

i tried to make it obvious...

this is a no win battle...

you might wanna let everyone sober up and get the rage of losing to the fade out

tomorrow cooler heads will prevail...

Like the cooler heads proclaiming Alex Smith to be a top 10 QB?

[jspchief]

Not sure why we don't mix Kelce and Bowe in until we're absolutely forced to. It's just idiotic, and it makes us so predictable. We're afraid to throw downfield, like little pussies.
Because Alex Smith. He's cautious to a fault. As long as everything else is working, it's "game management". Then when things get a little more desperate, he increases his risk taking.

But honestly, I put this loss on the defense.

[ChiefsLV]

you forgot about Cassel, Thigpen, Croyle, and the lineage of stellar QB's we have had since 1993

My point still stands. When is a loss ever not the qbs fault with this fan base?

[RealSNR]

Everytime this team loses, you guys blame Alex Smith. There is like no other reason ever that the team loses.

Bullshit. We blamed Andy Reid for the Tennessee and San Fran losses

[BigCatDaddy]

How about when everyone praised Alex Smith and his 177 yard passing game against the Bills.

177 yards

You must have missed the whopping 109 vs Seattle or the 48 through 2 and a half quarters tonight.

[Mav]

Were talking about 2014 with the Kansas City Chiefs dipshit. How many ****ing comebacks does he have in over a year and a half in a Chiefs uniform? I'll wait..

1. The san diego game, but I mean, yeah, the guy is 17-8 as a fucking starter, so that really means that he wasn't trailing that much, and didn't really need to come behind that often.

Congratulations, you win the dumb ass of the night award.

[ThaVirus]

Everytime this team loses, you guys blame Alex Smith. There is like no other reason ever that the team loses.

There are often other goats, like officiating and Ron Parker.

I think we tend to gravitate toward Smith because 1) he's the QB 2) highest paid player on the team 3) supposed to be a leader 4) we always play tight games and in tight games there may come a time when you have to hand the keys to the QB with no help from the run game. When we have to do that, Smith has shown that he is absolutely incapable of pulling out a win.

He's 0-3 in game-ending comeback situations this season alone.

[Ming the Merciless]

im kinda venting too bro. Im as angry as they are. Thanks boss.

no worries..

i mean i agree with your main sentiment, and i think everyone does...

complete loss

team loss

and its more bitter because it might mean we do not win the division plus its against the raiders....

and a lot of homers had superbowl dreams get shattered tonight...

but this season has been fun

that was actually a pretty damn exciting football game, which we did not get blown out in

fuck it

im a happy drunk

[Saccopoo]

Jesus this fan base is mentally deficient.

Starting receivers tonight:

Dwayne Bowe
Frankie Hammond Jr
Junior Hemingway
Albert Wilson

Bowe was double teamed on that final play, they know that Bowe is the only legitimate WR on the team.

Frankie Hammond Jr. couldn't start over AJ freaken Jenkins when he was healthy.

Junior Hemingway has AIDS.

Albert Wilson is a rookie.

Who was Smith supposed to throw the ball to on that 4th and 16 play? The only legitimate target that he had out there that was beyond the 1st down marker was Bowe, and he was double covered with tight coverage.

Before you say Kelce, he was inexplicably sitting on the sidelines for that final play.

Who was going to win their matchup among Hammond, Hemingway, and Wilson?

Smith chose to throw the deep comeback to Hammond who ran the shittiest comeback route that the NFL has ever seen and the ball fell incomplete.

Limitations? Get some damn receivers who know how to run a simple fucking route for a 1st down.

QFT

[Hootie]

Alex is good with a lead and terrible without one.

I was honestly shocked to see us come back.

I knew we were toast that last drive. That's not where Alex excels.

[Discuss Thrower]

lolol

i wish reid/sutton and alex smith would leave this team. so to see the chiefs go 2-14 again and then remind how good you supposed fans have it right now.
Explain the difference between a 1-10 Raiders team and a 7-4 Chiefs team if neither win a superbowl?

[Mav]

Like the cooler heads proclaiming Alex Smith to be a top 10 QB?

again, using your logic, Peyton Manning is not a top 10 qb. Shrugs.

[Jerm]

Jesus this fan base is mentally deficient.

Starting receivers tonight:

Dwayne Bowe
Frankie Hammond Jr
Junior Hemingway
Albert Wilson

Bowe was double teamed on that final play, they know that Bowe is the only legitimate WR on the team.

Frankie Hammond Jr. couldn't start over AJ freaken Jenkins when he was healthy.

Junior Hemingway has AIDS.

Albert Wilson is a rookie.

Who was Smith supposed to throw the ball to on that 4th and 16 play? The only legitimate target that he had out there that was beyond the 1st down marker was Bowe, and he was double covered with tight coverage.

Before you say Kelce, he was inexplicably sitting on the sidelines for that final play.

Who was going to win their matchup among Hammond, Hemingway, and Wilson?

Smith chose to throw the deep comeback to Hammond who ran the shittiest comeback route that the NFL has ever seen and the ball fell incomplete.

Limitations? Get some damn receivers who know how to run a simple fucking route for a 1st down.

I don't disagree with what you say but if you're going to sit here and say Smith doesn't have limitations and thus we're seeing the play calling be affected by that than I don't know what to say....

[Ming the Merciless]

My point still stands. When is a loss ever not the qbs fault with this fan base?

Have you seen this:

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[BeeHo]

Jesus this fan base is mentally deficient.

Starting receivers tonight:

Dwayne Bowe
Frankie Hammond Jr
Junior Hemingway
Albert Wilson


Junior Hemingway has AIDS.



Junior hemingway now has a concussion.

elite receivers remaining:
Dwayne Bowe
Frankie Hammond Jr
Albert Wilson

LOL

[DaneMcCloud]

The Chiefs will now be 0-16 in their following 16 games.

Oh, the humanity!

[Jim Lahey]

1. The san diego game, but I mean, yeah, the guy is 17-8 as a ****ing starter, so that really means that he wasn't trailing that much, and didn't really need to come behind that often.

Congratulations, you win the dumb ass of the night award.

11 games this year.

Denver, San Fran, Oakland. 3 chances to take a drive for a touchdown.

Failed. All 3 fucking times.

Go sit with your Alex Smith fathead and fist yourself.

[ThaVirus]

No drops or fumbles to point to tonight. Do we honestly believe that guys aren't getting open, EVER?

Come on now.

[Pablo]

Either we put our faith in a front office that is too daft to see the weaknesses in our WR corps and OL before the season, or one that thought Alex could actually overcome those weaknesses.

[Mav]

I don't disagree with what you say but if you're going to sit here and say Smith doesn't have limitations and thus we're seeing the play calling be affected by that than I don't know what to say....

Alex Smith has limitations. he is risk adverse. He wont take chances.

The offense is explosive play adverse for the most part. It lacks quick strike ability because of the offensive line, a qb that doesn't excel with the deep ball, and aids for receivers.

Is there anything there that I said was incorrect?

[Saccopoo]

With the lead in the fourth quarter, the defense gave up a seven minute, 80 yard drive.

F-.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's not as surprising as a result as you all are making it out to be. The NFL is more like baseball than it has ever been. There isn't that much of a difference between the Raiders and Chiefs or any two teams in this league. The Chiefs, like everyone else, have significant limitations that will get exposed when they don't play well.

Alex Smith is the guy that drives 55 in a 60, and who uses his turn signal when pulling into a spot in an empty parking lot. It's great for avoiding disaster, but sometimes you need someone willing to weave between semis while going 20 over, even if you risk calamity.

[ThaVirus]

With the lead in the fourth quarter, the defense gave up a seven minute, 80 yard drive.

F-.

I definitely would have liked to see some press man on the outsides in that situation but we like 8 yard cushions on 3rd and 4. Which one of their receivers is going to beat you deep?

It's the weirdest thing.

[Jerm]

Alex Smith has limitations. he is risk adverse. He wont take chances.

The offense is explosive play adverse for the most part. It lacks quick strike ability because of the offensive line, a qb that doesn't excel with the deep ball, and aids for receivers.

Is there anything there that I said was incorrect?

Nope...

[Mav]

11 games this year.

Denver, San Fran, Oakland. 3 chances to take a drive for a touchdown.

Failed. All 3 ****ing times.

Go sit with your Alex Smith fathead and fist yourself.

LOL. Because this offense is built to support the team. Everyone knows that Alex Smith isn't one to run hurry up offenses. This team isn't built that way. Just because you need someone to blame, doesn't mean I need to fist myself. I might fist your mom if she asks me nicely though.

[New World Order]

Have you seen this:

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I actually listened to this around 10x yesterday at work.

Fuckin love it

[GoChargers]

What happened to Mav's "I don't have to defend Alex Smith anymore, so I won't :(" signature? Sure looks like he's doing a lot of spinning and defending ITT.

[Pablo]

What happened to Mav's "I don't have to defend Alex Smith anymore, so I won't :(" signature? Sure looks like he's doing a lot of spinning and defending ITT.

Soft spot in his heart.

[Iconic]

Albert Wilson >>>

[temper11]

Chiefs win = "team win". Chiefs lose = "smith sucks ass". /CP

This was a team loss. Everyone came out flat.

[OldSchool]

I don't disagree with what you say but if you're going to sit here and say Smith doesn't have limitations and thus we're seeing the play calling be affected by that than I don't know what to say....

Limitations of Smith? Or is it the fact that we were starting our 4th string WR today, for the second week in a row, with the 5th and 6th stringer right behind him? None of whom have much game experience and can be considered "veterans" like Bowe.

To add onto that, our OL couldn't block Khalil Mack tonight if you put a gun to their heads.

Is Smith the one sending our only other legitimate receiving threat, Travis Kelce, to the sidelines instead of keeping him on the field like the Saints and Patriots do with Graham and Gronk?

You would have a point if we had anyone worth a shit out there besides Dwayne Bowe and Travis Kelce.

Is the reason why Charles is used so much in both the passing game and run game because Smith is limited? Or is the reason because Jamaal Charles is actually our best offensive weapon?

Does Reid design short passing plays to guys like DAT and Wilson because that has always been a major staple of his offenses and because it is a simple play to execute for young receivers? Or is that because Alex Smith is "limited"?

I could go on and on about this, but the point is that Reid isn't calling plays the way he is because he thinks that Smith is "limited", he calls plays like he did because that's what suites the strength of our personnel.

Young players (DAT & Wilson) who are great with the ball in their hands but don't understand how to play the WR position in full yet => Short passes to get the ball into their hands and let them create after the catch

Well above average TE unit with Kelce and Fasano => TE's are heavily targeted and relied upon in all facets

All-Pro RB with a very good back-up and an electric youngster right behind them => heavier running game and involvement in the passing game as well

Questionable OL, particularly in pass protection => call a lot more quick hitters and 3 step drops as well as run plays to get them more confident in their blocking and help them gel together

So I ask again, is it the QB who dictates the play calling? Or the personnel?

And to top it off today, it was raining cats and dogs for most of that first half. Neither team could pass very well. The difference? Our defense gave up 2 huge rushing TDs while their defense held our RB in check.

Ever try to throw a football in the pouring rain? Before you say "excuses" look at how the rain affected Colquitt's punts. After his one great punt before the heavy rain, the rest were falling much shorter even before he was ever injured. The conditions dictated that Reid call the game much safer during that first half, which allowed the Raiders to hold onto the lead for much longer than they should have.

Look at what happened once most of the rain went away in the 2nd half. Suddenly the playbook is opened up and the offense gets going? Did Reid refuse to open up the playbook in the 1st half because he was being stubborn? Or did he know that passing the ball in that kind of downpour was going to lead to even worse things happening?

[cdcox]

again, using your logic, Peyton Manning is not a top 10 qb. Shrugs.

Since his second year in the league Peyton Manning has been a top 3 QB, even after his worst loss.

Alex has never been a top 10 QB, even after his best win.

No logic flaws here.

[dls6501]

Everyone knows that Alex Smith isn't one to run hurry up offenses.

These are the kind of quotes from Alex apologists that drive me insane. So because Alex isn't good at running hurry up offenses, we are supposed to be ok with that and not desire more?

Saying The two minute drill or hurry up offenses aren't things that Alex excels are nothin more than excuses for his limitations. A $17M quarterback needs to be good at these things. I dont understand how people are ok with this.

[OldSchool]

These are the kind of quotes from Alex apologists that drive me insane. So because Alex isn't good at running hurry up offenses, we are supposed to be ok with that and not desire more?

Saying The two minute drill or hurry up offenses aren't things that Alex excels are nothin more than excuses for his limitations. A $17M quarterback needs to be good at these things. I dont understand how people are ok with this.

Mav has no idea what he's talking about. Smith was money in the hurry up offense in SF. Why would that suddenly change here?

[DaneMcCloud]

Andy Reid lost this game, plain and simple.

It's always been his decision to limit the offense and his decision to call all of the plays, making this loss squarely on his shoulders.

[OldSchool]

Andy Reid lost this game, plain and simple.

It's always been his decision to limit the offense and his decision to call all of the plays, making this loss squarely on his shoulders.

I find it hard to blame Reid. I mean, look what he has to work with in terms of weapons. There are only so many ways that you can scheme for a guy to get the ball in space. At some point, you're going to have to be able to line up man to man and just beat the guy in front of you. Who does this team have that can consistently do that?

Bowe? Sure, but he is the only WR who can and it's not like he has the speed to really take the top off of a defense anymore.

Kelce? Probably, but it seems like Reid doesn't want to overload him. (Again, his stress fracture was actually a pretty significant injury for an athlete, particularly one of his size, it would be very bad for it to happen again).

Charles? Yes, especially if he is lined up against a LB.

But that's literally only 3 guys that Reid doesn't have to really scheme for. On top of that, he has to scheme and call plays around a really weak and talent deficient OL that has shown, time and time again, that it can't consistently pass protect for 5+ step drops. That limits the play calling even more than not having a true #1 WR or even a legitimate deep threat.

The only thing that I really blame Reid for in this game is:

1. Not running the ball at least twice in the red zone.
2. Ever taking Kelce off the field in crucial situations. Ever.

I was dumbfounded when I saw that Kelce was sitting on the bench for the final play. Really? Unless he was injured in a previous play, there is no excuse for that to happen. You literally left Alex with only Dwayne Bowe as a dependable target on the field. That final play was just doomed to fail from the moment that Reid called it. Oakland even gifted him a time out to give him time to think about it.

[Sorter]

What happened to Mav's "I don't have to defend Alex Smith anymore, so I won't :(" signature? Sure looks like he's doing a lot of spinning and defending ITT.

It's possible my sig shows where his heart truly lies.

LMAO

[Baby Lee]

These are the kind of quotes from Alex apologists that drive me insane. So because Alex isn't good at running hurry up offenses, we are supposed to be ok with that and not desire more?

Saying The two minute drill or hurry up offenses aren't things that Alex excels are nothin more than excuses for his limitations. A $17M quarterback needs to be good at these things. I dont understand how people are ok with this.

You're already insane, insisting on this '2 minute drill' being the only thing you judge Alex on. That you judge him on it despite any other factors, even within the drill. That you seem to salivate over these situations as a chance to bitch and moan, to the point that even in the best of Chiefs' times you moan over in the corner 'yeah, but what if? . . . .'

[OldSchool]

From Rotoworld:

Frankie Hammond caught 1-of-3 targets for six yards in Kansas City's Week 12 loss to the Raiders.
With Donnie Avery and Junior Hemingway ailing, the Chiefs needed Hammond to step up. Instead he dropped a critical third-down pass (which was overturned by a penalty) and failed to come back to the ball on the final play of the game. It was a dismal performance. The Chiefs arguably have the least receiver talent in the league.

[OldSchool]

Alex Smith completed 20-of-36 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns in Kansas City's 24-20, Week 12 loss to the Raiders.
He added two rushes for five yards, also committing a fumble the Chiefs recovered. It was too little, too late for Smith, who was utterly dismal for the game's first 30-40 minutes before finally mustering up the courage to take some shots downfield after the Chiefs fell behind 17-3. He found Dwayne Bowe and Travis Kelce for chunk gains, but the Chiefs couldn't hold a fragile 20-17, fourth-quarter lead. Anthony Fasano and Jamaal Charles did the work on Smith's scores. In Smith's defense, he was hurt by horrific play from his pass catchers on Kansas City's final drive, most notably from Frankie Hammond. The Chiefs desperately need to address their receiver corps this offseason. Smith will be on the QB2 map in what will likely be a high-scoring game against the Broncos in Week 13.

Even Rotoworld, who's writers don't really like Smith because he's never been a top Fantasy Football QB, acknowledge that our WRs do, in fact, suck balls.

[Discuss Thrower]

Even Rotoworld, who's writers don't really like Smith because he's never been a top Fantasy Football QB, acknowledge that our WRs do, in fact, suck balls.
Who is Tom Brady throwing to that isn't named Gronkwoski

[OldSchool]

Who is Tom Brady throwing to that isn't named Gronkwoski

Julian Edelman and Brandon Lafell.

How did Tom Brady look when his OL wasn't playing really well and Gronkowski wasn't back to 100%?

[Discuss Thrower]

Julian Edelman and Brandon Lafell

How did Tom Brady look when his OL wasn't playing really well and Gronkowski wasn't back to 100%?

So a white Dante Hall and a guy who a WR starved team in Carolina felt safe in letting go.

Not that you know who Dante Hall is without using Google.

[Mav]

These are the kind of quotes from Alex apologists that drive me insane. So because Alex isn't good at running hurry up offenses, we are supposed to be ok with that and not desire more?

Saying The two minute drill or hurry up offenses aren't things that Alex excels are nothin more than excuses for his limitations. A $17M quarterback needs to be good at these things. I dont understand how people are ok with this.
You're a fucking 49er fan. You don't have to be fine with shit. You get to be fine with your tattooed freak piece of shit qb.

[Discuss Thrower]

Andy Reid lost this game, plain and simple.

It's always been his decision to limit the offense and his decision to call all of the plays, making this loss squarely on his shoulders.

That and he's the sole reason a bottom tier QB is starting..

[Mav]

It's possible my sig shows where his heart truly lies.

LMAO
Don't quote that piece of shit. His boner for me is amazing. I've had him on ignore for months, yet he still responds about me all the time.

And you, what's your deal?

[Mav]

That and he's the sole reason a bottom tier QB is starting..
Now he is bottom tier? This place is amazing.

[jd1020]

Now he is bottom tier? This place is amazing.

If we are talking about splitting the starting QBs in half, then yes, he's bottom tier.

[Mav]

If we are talking about splitting the starting QBs in half, then yes, he's bottom tier.
Oh. Carry on then.

[BigCatDaddy]

Julian Edelman and Brandon Lafell.

How did Tom Brady look when his OL wasn't playing really well and Gronkowski wasn't back to 100%?

You did catcher the part where they said Bowe may catch 100 balls on a different team right?t

[Baby Lee]

Who is Tom Brady throwing to that isn't named Gronkwoski

Who's Brady had to throw to in order to take back a lead surrendered in a drive taking >7 of the last 9 minutes of the game?

[Gino-Bartali]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2790r5IUAEjXTb.png

He had Bowe wide open for a TD here

[Kaepernick]

Standard caustic Alex debate. I'm just glad this is gone from the 49ers website.

Alex Smith is just good enough to break your heart and it causes a deep polarization in the fanbase. These threads are here to stay as long as Alex stays.

All of you know exactly what Alex is by now and what exactly to expect from him, when and how he shines and what his limitations are. Yet it is discussed to death as if something will somehow change.

The last play of the 49ers super bowl loss was a bad fade pass from Kaepernick. Whenever I rewatch that last series, it seems like if I just watch it enough times, one of these times Crabtree will haul it in and the 49ers will have won the 2012 super bowl, but it never happens.

That is all Alex discussions in a nutshell. It is like, if we discuss Alex enough, maybe he will overcome his tendency toward risk aversion. Maybe he will find his killer instinct. Maybe he will read deep to shallow and look to his wideouts first. Maybe he will throw to wide receivers who are open by NFL standards even if they look covered by college standards. Maybe he will take the appropriate risk at the appropriate time. If we just discuss it long enough.

Good luck guys. I know exactly how half of you feel and I wouldn't wish this contention on anybody.

Alex isn't the problem. Andy isn't the problem. Your owner is the problem. I'm not a Chiefs fan, but if I was, all I would have wanted was for Dorsey to keep the 2 draft picks and roll the dice on a young QB like Teddy Bridgewater and keep rolling until I found a franchise QB who could be a solid top 10 guy.

Alex is just good enough to break your heart.

[Baby Lee]

Same tired passive-aggressive obsessed drivel we all saw coming.

Go away and stay away.

Never come back.

[Kaepernick]

Go away and stay away.

Never come back.

As if I need a personal invitation from your ass.

Passive-aggressive. A chick insult. You sound like a chick. WTF is passive-aggressive anyway? Only a chick would know.

[Baby Lee]

As if I need a personal invitation from your ass.

Passive-aggressive. A chick insult. You sound like a chick.

BEING passive-aggressive is a CHICK move. You're a cunty little cooze.

Smelled it a mile away. 'Hey, I'm mister objective. Looks like you got something nice with Smith. Hope he does well for you. Lesbi-friends Chief fans.'

All along you were just biding your time on your fatal attraction with Smith, boiling your rabbits and sharpening your knives.

Smith is exactly what I expected of him, and what he's been all along, and he's still way better than Kaep. You know what's gonna suck worse than our D giving up a lead again in the playoffs? Your D playing another game for the ages and Kaep throwing it away AGAIN with bone-headed brain farts.

Right about now, you are the 2000 Ravens except with Rex Grossman at QB. I'll take our lot over that.

[R8RFAN]

Absolutely sickening loss

Sorry Bout That Sore Ass PGM :D

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Sorry Bout That Sore Ass PGM :D

Hey congrats bud! May your team win every other game this year except the one in Arrowhead and draft 14th in the 1st round next year! :D

[R8RFAN]

Hey congrats bud! May your team win every other game this year except the one in Arrowhead and draft 14th in the 1st round next year! :D

nOOOOOOOO But since we don't need a QB I am fine with the 2nd draft pick

[Mr. Flopnuts]

This. Guy was 10-10 in the comeback stretch when Fat Andy actually opened up the fucking offense.

ROFL You're passionate about these guys. I always thought you rooted for them because you're bro in law, but you sound like a legit Chiefs fan. I love it!

[Kaepernick]

BEING passive-aggressive is a CHICK move. You're a ****y little cooze.

Smelled it a mile away. 'Hey, I'm mister objective. Looks like you got something nice with Smith. Hope he does well for you. Lesbi-friends Chief fans.'

All along you were just biding your time on your fatal attraction with Smith, boiling your rabbits and sharpening your knives.

Smith is exactly what I expected of him, and what he's been all along, and he's still way better than Kaep. You know what's gonna suck worse than our D giving up a lead again in the playoffs? Your D playing another game for the ages and Kaep throwing it away AGAIN with bone-headed brain farts.

Right about now, you are the 2000 Ravens except with Rex Grossman at QB. I'll take our lot over that.



Everything I've said about Alex on both sides, praise and criticism, is not only fair, it is true. So take a hike with your chick insults.

Not a Kap thread so piss off. If you want to talk about Kaepernick, start a Kap thread. But since you brought it up, I am thrilled with Kaepernick as a young improving QB, much less so with the 3rd worst pass protection in football, so piss off, which Football Outsiders ranks at 30th of 32.


http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol


http://i.imgur.com/XurE1T0.jpg

[Baby Lee]

A chick insult. You sound like a chick. WTF is passive-aggressive anyway? Only a chick would know.

take a hike with your chick insults.

ROFL ROFL ROFL - leave it to a screwy broad. You sound like BEP on heavy flow.

[Chief Henry]

With the lead in the fourth quarter, the defense gave up a seven minute, 80 yard drive.

F-.

This x 1000 along with a brutal 1st half performance by the whole team. They basically slept through the whole first half in all 3 aspects of the game. :grr:

[ViperVisor]

3rd worst pass protection in football, so piss off, which Football Outsiders ranks at 30th of 32.

You've stated this many times but don't know what it is.

That is not pass protection ranking.
That is only a rate stat.
The 49ers are getting sacked at a rate way higher than avg.
They assign no value to it being a OL or QB issue.

Is the 49ers pass protection good? No. But it's never been really good.

[JohnV]

BEING passive-aggressive is a CHICK move. You're a ****y little cooze.

Smelled it a mile away. 'Hey, I'm mister objective. Looks like you got something nice with Smith. Hope he does well for you. Lesbi-friends Chief fans.'

All along you were just biding your time on your fatal attraction with Smith, boiling your rabbits and sharpening your knives.

Smith is exactly what I expected of him, and what he's been all along, and he's still way better than Kaep. You know what's gonna suck worse than our D giving up a lead again in the playoffs? Your D playing another game for the ages and Kaep throwing it away AGAIN with bone-headed brain farts.

Right about now, you are the 2000 Ravens except with Rex Grossman at QB. I'll take our lot over that.

Lol 34 points in the SB is one for the ages??? Kap the only reason that game was even close and he was the best player on the field that day. Over 360 yds of offense and 2 tds. 2 100 yd receivers and outscored Ravens O 29-27.

He fell apart against the Seahawks last year, but he was also a one man show the whole game, and again the only reason it was close. Gore had 14 yds rushing lol. He did finally break, but what QB beat that secondary last year? That was a damn good defense, and he was able to keep it close without a running game.

You can definitely blame Kap for last year, but you can also blame him for that game even being close in the first place. Blaming him for the SB is retarded. No team has ever won the SB giving up 34 points,one for the ages as you call it lmao. Oh yea and sorry Alex sucks. Thanks for the draft picks!!

[NewChief]

ROFL You're passionate about these guys. I always thought you rooted for them because you're bro in law, but you sound like a legit Chiefs fan. I love it!

Yeah. To the extent that I care about any NFL team, I care about the Chiefs. Was annoyed last night because I bought a six pack and actually got to focus on the game, which I don't usually get to do.

In hindsight, it was at least an "exciting" game in the second half. Just annoyed by the outcome and the shitty showing in the 1st half.

[Kaepernick]

Lol 34 points in the SB is one for the ages??? Kap the only reason that game was even close and he was the best player on the field that day. Over 360 yds of offense and 2 tds. 2 100 yd receivers and outscored Ravens O 29-27.

He fell apart against the Seahawks last year, but he was also a one man show the whole game, and again the only reason it was close. Gore had 14 yds rushing lol. He did finally break, but what QB beat that secondary last year? That was a damn good defense, and he was able to keep it close without a running game.

You can definitely blame Kap for last year, but you can also blame him for that game even being close in the first place. Blaming him for the SB is retarded. No team has ever won the SB giving up 34 points,one for the ages as you call it lmao. Oh yea and sorry Alex sucks. Thanks for the draft picks!!

Please don't make it a Kap thread. It is not.

Baby Pee always likes to troll me by insulting Kaepernick as if that gets to me. I'm thrilled with Kap as a young developing QB with elite potential so I just laugh at his futility. I think it is funny. Don't let him troll you. It is just his schtick. This isn't a Kap thread. Baby Pee was just trolling me like usual is all. Just because I am not a Chiefs fan, he doesn't like me expressing the truth about Alex. His problem.

[ViperVisor]

And the Steve Young comparison is laughable.

Since 2012
Kaepernick
60.19 7370yds 45td 16int

Smith
64.01 7261yds 49td 16int

89-92 there were 11 QBs with a rating of 80 or higher. Steve Young and then Montana were at the very top.

2012-now 26 QBs
Eli Manning is 26th 80.0

[Baby Lee]

Please don't make it a Kap thread. It is not.

Baby Pee always likes to troll me by insulting Kaepernick as if that gets to me. I'm thrilled with Kap as a young developing QB with elite potential so I just laugh at his futility. I think it is funny. Don't let him troll you. It is just his schtick. This isn't a Kap thread. Baby Pee was just trolling me like usual is all. Just because I am not a Chiefs fan, he doesn't like me expressing the truth about Alex. His problem.

Yes, because what use would an Alex Smith obsessive have with a Kaep thread.

Troll? Bitch please. I've been on here and I'll be here, on Chiefsplanet, to talk about the Chiefs.

<--- see this, over here. Right after 'Join Date:' Just a little before Alex, and way before your stank ass.

You're just a fatal attraction obsessed with Alex. You post on nothing else. You have nothing new to say. You offer NOTHING. Alex haters hate you. Alex lovers hate you. Alex agnostics hate you. And it's not because of Alex, or what you're 'right' or 'wrong' about. It's because you think this is some psychiatrist's couch where you can lie down and exorcise your Alexsexual demons.

Alex loving [former or not] 49ers fans are one kind of irritating, but at least they're following something they like. You're just here to try to 'win' battles you lost in the past with your 49er butt buddies, against a fandom that doesn't give a shit about your obsession.

You're like the lonely dude who tells a group of strangers what a bitch their buddy's girlfriend is, because she dumped you before they met her.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

lolol

i wish reid/sutton and alex smith would leave this team. so to see the chiefs go 2-14 again and then remind how good you supposed fans have it right now.

Don't you fucking come in here and tell us how good we have it. From your join date you sound like an Alex ball washer, and not a Chiefs fan. If you haven't been around this fucking dumpster fire franchise for the last 40 years you have NO EARTHLY FUCKING IDEA what we have, had, or will have in the future. Eat shit and die you piece of shit.

I don't blame Alex for last night. He missed Bowe in the endzone. That was his biggest mistake. Shit happens. I love our coach. So while I understand what you're saying, you don't have the fucking right to say SHIT to any real fans of this fucking franchise. Go away.