NFL Network Oline Discussion

[Jimmya]

The NFL Network was asking each other why the Chiefs oline has regressed while the Patriots line has got it together. They showed discussions from all angles after the Chiefs defeated the Patriots. Everyone was talking about how great the Chiefs oline had performed the last few games and that Tom Brady was on his death bed because his oline was terrible.

So all of you that are bashing the Chiefs oline........why have they regressed?
And why has the Patriots oline been so good?

[The Franchise]

They didn't "regress". We stopped being able to hide their deficiencies and teams figured out how to beat them.

[jonzie04]

The pats have benched guys, promoted guys, moved guys around, got into their asses.

We have done..... nothing

[RealSNR]

My theory is the Patriots line was never as bad as it was, just inexperienced. It also just needed some time.

Our line, on the other hand, has always been AIDS

[Jimmya]

Shouldn't somebody on the coaching staff be able to adjust...either play calling or some sort of rotation? It is the NFL.

[BeeHo]

It's all reactionary garbage. Omg Tom Brady is old and can't win anymore then he's back to old Tom Brady.

Then the chiefs suck losing to titans and Broncos. Then they beat Seattle and now we're super bowl ready. Then we suck again losing to Oakland and Broncos.

All reactions of the moment.

[ModSocks]

They didn't "regress". We stopped being able to hide their deficiencies and teams figured out how to beat them.

This. Early on Reid was able to do some really creative things with the offense, get the ball out of Alex's hands quickly and lean on misdirection.

I mentioned it a month ago...this team has to out-scheme in order to win because they can't just line up and beat you with talent alone.

Now that we're nearing the end of the season, teams have figured out Reid's offense.

[OnTheWarpath15]

This. Early on Reid was able to do some really creative things with the offense, get the ball out of Alex's hands quickly and lean on misdirection.

I mentioned it a month ago...this team has to out-scheme in order to win because they can't just line up and beat you with talent alone.

Now that we're nearing the end of the season, teams have figured out Reid's offense.

The surprise is that it took teams this long to figure it out.

Stop JC at all costs, make Alex beat you.

[ModSocks]

It's all reactionary garbage. Omg Tom Brady is old and can't win anymore then he's back to old Tom Brady.

Then the chiefs suck losing to titans and Broncos. Then they beat Seattle and now we're super bowl ready. Then we suck again losing to Oakland and Broncos.

All reactions of the moment.

While i agree to a point, there's only 4 weeks left in the season. At this point, enough patterns have developed to where we can say what this team is and isn't.

We've known...at least some of us....that this team was soft up the middle since week 2.

Even through their wins, they still couldn't run defend worth a shit.

A lot of people stuck their finger in their ears and went lalalalalalala.

But much like last season's pass defense, it caught up to them.

[Jimmya]

They also said that the remaining schedule would say alot about the status of Kansas City Football.

[eDave]

...Stop JC at all costs, make Alex beat you.

The K.I.S.S. strategy in a nutshell. Worked like a charm.

[The Franchise]

They also said that the remaining schedule would say alot about the status of Kansas City Football.

I posted it in another thread......but we'll win the Arizona and Oakland games. Everyone will talk about how we just tripped up and we're back. We'll end up 9-6 going into the Chargers game where it will be a "winner takes the last WC spot" and we won't show up. We'll finish 9-7.

[jonzie04]

But man it is really amazing how good this offense is when alex can complete a 3 step drop, and jamaal isnt getting plastered in the backfield

[TEX]

I posted it in another thread......but we'll win the Arizona and Oakland games. Everyone will talk about how we just tripped up and we're back. We'll end up 9-6 going into the Chargers game where it will be a "winner takes the last WC spot" and we won't show up. We'll finish 9-7.

Yep. Only the Chargers will be out of it by then having lost to the Pats and Donx. BUT they will still win AT Arrowhead and knock the Chiefs out of the Playoffs. That will be the last kick in the ball sack by this team this year.

[mdchiefsfan]

What's happening is:

Reid calls some bonehead plays, we kick the ball;

Sutton's head has been planted in his ass, so we give up a score;

Reid then realizes that Charles exists and doesn't want the beating the fans will deliver if he neglects him again, so he goes incredibly predictable. Kick it away again;

Sutton is still chomping on the turds he discovered on the previous drive, so we give up another score;

We are now in a hole (much like Sutton), and are forced to play to our oline's weaknesses and their awfulness is exposed.

If we can start with a lead; we have a chance to go tit for tat. If they score first and we don't respond; we're ****ed.

[mdchiefsfan]

Don't get me started on having two time outs, not used, and kneeling to go to halftime when we kick to start the 3rd.

[beach tribe]

What's happening is:

Reid calls some bonehead plays, we kick the ball;

Sutton's head has been planted in his ass, so we give up a score;

Reid then realizes that Charles exists and doesn't want the beating the fans will deliver if he neglects him again, so he goes incredibly predictable. Kick it away again;

Sutton is still chomping on the turds he discovered on the previous drive, so we give up another score;

We are now in a hole (much like Sutton), and are forced to play to our oline's weaknesses and their awfulness is exposed.

If we can start with a lead; we have a chance to go tit for tat. If they score first and we don't respond; we're ****ed.

This is EXACTLY what happened.

When we threw the ball 3 straight times and punted I knew we were fucked.

[beach tribe]

Don't get me started on having two time outs, not used, and kneeling to go to halftime when we kick to start the 3rd.

Horrible, HORRIBLE coaching.

[penbrook]

What's happening is:

Reid calls some bonehead plays, we kick the ball;

Sutton's head has been planted in his ass, so we give up a score;

Reid then realizes that Charles exists and doesn't want the beating the fans will deliver if he neglects him again, so he goes incredibly predictable. Kick it away again;

Sutton is still chomping on the turds he discovered on the previous drive, so we give up another score;

We are now in a hole (much like Sutton), and are forced to play to our oline's weaknesses and their awfulness is exposed.

If we can start with a lead; we have a chance to go tit for tat. If they score first and we don't respond; we're ****ed.

Exactly even Bowe said the Chiefs aren't a team where they can come back and win

[ViperVisor]

Charles and Nile + Sherman doing work and people associate it with 'the o-line is good'.

Sideways passing and quick slants/comebacks to Bowe. Screens.
Those all hide O-Line weakness by getting the pass off quick.

Deep drops and situations where play-action isn't believable and the O-Line is asked to hold up for 3 seconds hasn't happened much this year.

Brady was getting pressure up the middle early in the year and he was dead because no scramble ability and forcing passes that shouldn't of been even tried or the pressure made him miss the open guy.
They got the interior of the O-Line sorted out and traded Mankins because he wasn't good anymore.

[penbrook]

“Keep our heads down and just know it takes one game to get back into it,” Bowe said. “We got to start by that one game. I think we’re going to get back to the basics next week and just start off with Chiefs’ style football, pounding and grinding and open it up with the play-action.”

[Chiefnj2]

I posted it in another thread......but we'll win the Arizona and Oakland games. Everyone will talk about how we just tripped up and we're back. We'll end up 9-6 going into the Chargers game where it will be a "winner takes the last WC spot" and we won't show up. We'll finish 9-7.


Chargers will win on a last second PI call on a 40 yard throw by Rivers. Just like they won the Ravens game. Something KC is too afraid to even attempt. Safer to take the sack or kneel on the ball.

[Tribal Warfare]

The surprise is that it took teams this long to figure it out.

Stop JC at all costs, make Alex beat you.

AKA the Cassel game plan

[Discuss Thrower]

AKA the Cassel game plan

Huard.

The Chiefs are paying $17m a year for Damon Huard.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Huard.

The Chiefs are paying $17m a year for Damon Huard.

Even Damon Huard was able to find Bowe enough to total 1000 yards and 5 TD's.

[Easy 6]

The pats have benched guys, promoted guys, moved guys around, got into their asses.

We have done..... nothing

This.

Heck seems to have thought that if he just let the same tired shit gel long enough it'd turn into gold, instead it just got shittier.