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Fire Me Boy!
12-07-2014, 06:14 PM
Worst. Absolutely ridiculous.

Ceej
12-07-2014, 06:14 PM
LMAO

Utterly embarrassing.

Shaid
12-07-2014, 06:14 PM
Fucking horrible.

TLO
12-07-2014, 06:15 PM
That's what happens when you have no o-line

chop
12-07-2014, 06:15 PM
Worst. Absolutely ridiculous.

Agree. This team is frustrating to watch and I only got to see them on NFL redzone.

MMXcalibur
12-07-2014, 06:15 PM
Words fail me.

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:15 PM
Worst. Absolutely ridiculous.

Where have you been all season? Every time the Chiefs run it , it looks like that...:shrug:

Ceej
12-07-2014, 06:15 PM
That's what happens when you have no o-line

And no QB.

FlaChief58
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Embarrassing

SAUTO
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
LMAO.

Pablo
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Dumb fucks will defend Alex in this thread.

Should be fun.

Reerun_KC
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
And no QB.

And Andy Reid...

Fish
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Sure glad we gave Smith that extension. Can't wait to see more!

Unsmooth-Moment
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Unreal.

GordonGekko
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
That's what happens when you have no o-line

And your QB sucks the big Hamboni...

Pushead2
12-07-2014, 06:16 PM
Chiefs were done after Oakland. I've given up on the team. Too early to change the board to "draft planet"?

WilliamTheIrish
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
19 seconds and EVEN THEN don't attempt a downfield throw. Attempted a WR bubble screen. That's so Chuefs

Big Poppa Payne
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Andy Reid is sorry

Reerun_KC
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Dumb ****s will defend Alex in this thread.

Should be fun.

and Reids game plans and preparation will continue to get ingnored just to bash the shitty QB...

Dumbfucks everywhere...

FlaChief58
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Chiefs were done after Oakland. I've given up on the team. Too early to change the board to "draft planet"?

Might as well

TribalElder
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
NO SACK WHAT SO EVER

GordonGekko
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Sure glad we gave Smith that extension. Can't wait to see more!

Thing is Smith will have a "trash" day against a shitty team and have 3-4 td's and get the homers excited again and nothing will change. This guy sucks.

Pablo
12-07-2014, 06:17 PM
And yes, that was a special sort of gutless bullshit we just watched.

Reerun_KC
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
Andy Reid is sorry

One of the highest paid coaches in the league at that....

Old Dog
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
In 13 games now, Alex Smith has thrown (not completed....THROWN) 15 balls 20 or more yards past the line of scrimmage. DAMN

GordonGekko
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
19 seconds and EVEN THEN don't attempt a downfield throw. Attempted a WR bubble screen. That's so Chuefs

Smith aint got that throw in the arsenal.

carcosa
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
Garbage QB, garbage WRs, dumbass OL. What do you expect?

Pablo
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
Andy and Alex. A match made in pussy fart heaven.

mr. tegu
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
It was like watching a baby sea turtle trying to make its way to the ocean from the beach. You are rooting for it and can't help but watch because you want to see it succeed, but you know deep down that the odds of success are minuscule and the poor little turtle will in all likelihood meet a disappointing end from one of the numerous predators.

Reerun_KC
12-07-2014, 06:18 PM
Thing is Smith will have a "trash" day against a shitty team and have 3-4 td's and get the homers excited again and nothing will change. This guy sucks.

then homers will praise Reid and his play calling "creativity" at the same time...

KC_Connection
12-07-2014, 06:19 PM
And we're stuck with Alex Smith for how long? LMAO

Reerun_KC
12-07-2014, 06:20 PM
And we're stuck with Alex Smith for how long? LMAO
As long as Reid is here....

Iowanian
12-07-2014, 06:20 PM
I'd like to confirm my hate for McGlynn....He's a piece of shit who should be a bouncer at Porky's....


I've never considered myself a hater of Alex Smith, but he's a menstruating woman. He is an absolute CUNT. swing passes and crossing routes 4yards down field...with 80 yards to go, a minute left.......and no time outs.


What a cunt.

This was the death of the Chiefs offseason.

Those mutherfuckers.......

tk13
12-07-2014, 06:21 PM
Andy Reid's teams have always been terrible at time management. That was pretty much exhibit A right there.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
12-07-2014, 06:21 PM
But the SAINTS game!!!

/Mav

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:23 PM
I'd like to confirm my hate for McGlynn....He's a piece of shit who should be a bouncer at Porky's....


I've never considered myself a hater of Alex Smith, but he's a menstruating woman. He is an absolute ****. swing passes and crossing routes 4yards down field...with 80 yards to go, a minute left.......and no time outs.


What a ****.

This was the death of the Chiefs offseason.

Those muther****ers.......

Naw - this is what happens after death. Death was the loss to Oakland. Once that happened, it defined the season.

JohnnyHammersticks
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
One thing you can say about Alex, though. He may not be talented, but at least he's a pussy.

Hootie
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
I said the same fucking thing to my buddy watching with me.

I don't even know who I should be mad about.

Did we really call a WR screen pass with 16 seconds left and no timeouts?

...I just

what?

hometeam
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
8-8, asses in the seats, thats all that matters

Pablo
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
No balls. A neutered, scared cock wad of a qb. And the moron coach who coddles him. Just sickening.

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:25 PM
Chiefs were done after Oakland. I've given up on the team. Too early to change the board to "draft planet"?

Exactly. In fact I just said the same thing to Iowanian. That Oakland loss was it.

jspchief
12-07-2014, 06:27 PM
Worst. Absolutely ridiculous.
The best part is that Arizona had absolutely no fear of bringing pressure.

This offense is a joke and is getting clowned by the rest of the league.

ChiefsChoke010414
12-07-2014, 06:27 PM
I wonder how awesome the Chiefs would be in the CFL, with the field being wider? Then, our horizontal attack would be difficult to stop.

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:27 PM
8-8, asses in the seats, thats all that matters

8-8 is the absolute ceiling. This team could EASILY lose the rest.

Hootie
12-07-2014, 06:28 PM
this Chiefs team, even at 7-6, is really making it hard for me to care

like, at all

we're boring as fuck, we're predictable as fuck

and

w t f did I just watch?

that overturned call was fucking bullshit, though

TribalElder
12-07-2014, 06:28 PM
LONDON HERE WE COME

Bwana
12-07-2014, 06:29 PM
That may be the worst KC OL I have ever seen. We need to make some major moves in the off season.

OnTheWarpath15
12-07-2014, 06:29 PM
The best part is that Arizona had absolutely no fear of bringing pressure.

This offense is a joke and is getting clowned by the rest of the league.

I believe Alex was 12/25 in the second half, which is when Arizona started following the Oakland/Denver blueprint of bringing a safety into the box and bringing the blitz.

Three teams have dared Alex Smith to beat them, and he's been unable to.

TribalElder
12-07-2014, 06:29 PM
this Chiefs team, even at 7-6, is really making it hard for me to care

like, at all

we're boring as fuck, we're predictable as fuck

and

w t f did I just watch?

that overturned call was fucking bullshit, though
so was the ghost offensive pass interference on our touchdown

the next play they went the distance lol

I feel like some of these games are "influenced heavily" by officiating

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:30 PM
The best part is that Arizona had absolutely no fear of bringing pressure.

This offense is a joke and is getting clowned by the rest of the league.

SHIT OL, No WR's and a QB that needs everything to be absolutely perfect in order to succeed. THIS IS what we had coming into the season. The fluke was winning 5 in a row.

kcpasco
12-07-2014, 06:30 PM
Oakland derailed our season. Just let that sink in.

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:32 PM
so was the ghost offensive pass interference on our touchdown

the next play they went the distance lol

I feel like some of these games are "influenced heavily" by officiating

That's because they ARE. Trust YOUR eyes - not the fact that you think, what you just saw, cant happen...

TEX
12-07-2014, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE=kcpasco;11175527]Oakland derailed our season. Just let that sink in.[/QUOTE

Yep. when it happened, I said it was a prelude of what was to come... But honestly, its easy to get over.

Matt101KC
12-07-2014, 06:34 PM
team is a dumpster fire

scho63
12-07-2014, 06:34 PM
Something akin to this......


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/225/2/a/Clown_Car_by_onCue5.jpg

Ming the Merciless
12-07-2014, 06:34 PM
ALEXCUSES

Ming the Merciless
12-07-2014, 06:35 PM
Something akin to this......


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/225/2/a/Clown_Car_by_onCue5.jpg


is it wrong that i am so buzzed this picture makes me want to jerk off

Hootie
12-07-2014, 06:41 PM
I'm not a conspiracy guy but ...

I'll have to see where the money was on this game.

I mean, that overturned call was atrocious. It really was.

Hootie
12-07-2014, 06:42 PM
Chiefs were favored by 2.5 and 56% of the public was on KC.

So, meh.

I'm not going to think the game was fixed based off of that but someone is going to have to explain to me why that call was overturned, and the OPI.

Red Dawg
12-07-2014, 06:45 PM
Dumb ****s will defend Alex in this thread.

Should be fun.

Has everyone forgotten how the offense really started to get moving last year and in the playoff game? What is different this year? The OL is very different and Avery has beed out like forever. The defense can't stop the run without DJ and Devito. Alex is not different the OL and recievers are worse.

He may be super safe but even he got the ball to the recievers when needed. Today Albert Wilson started. WILSON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

mr. tegu
12-07-2014, 06:46 PM
It was in fact, offensive pass interference on Fasano. He pushed the defender who probably flopped a little, but still it was interference. I am fine with the ref not throwing the flag on Fasano on a cheap penalty unless it ends up directly benefiting him and affecting the play. That is why he waited to throw it.

Also, Fasano knew it immediately. He didn't argue the call one bit or even react negatively. That tells you everything you need to know.

milkman
12-07-2014, 06:49 PM
Oakland derailed our season. Just let that sink in.

Yep. when it happened, I said it was a prelude of what was to come... But honestly, its easy to get over.

This team played above it's talent level, and our opponents failed to attack our weakness through most of the first 10 games.

The Raiders did attack our weakness, and exposed these frauds again.

WilliamTheIrish
12-07-2014, 06:49 PM
Has everyone forgotten how the offense really started to get moving last year and in the playoff game? What is different this year? The OL is very different and Avery has beed out like forever. The defense can't stop the run without DJ and Devito. Alex is not different the OL and recievers are worse.

He may be super safe but even he got the ball to the recievers when needed. Today Albert Wilson started. WILSON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

I don't think you can complain about the D today. They held AZ to 17 points and gave the ball back to the O four times (at least) with a chance to tie/lead and we got:

Slant/Out/slant/sack.

stonedstooge
12-07-2014, 06:53 PM
WE WANT CHASE!

milkman
12-07-2014, 06:54 PM
The sad thing is, because Derek Carr is already a much better QB than Alex Smith, unless Dorsey hits on every draft pick, fixing the O-line, finding a receiver, repairing the run defense, and filling the holes in the secondary, I can envision Oakland with Better record next season.

MikeMaslowski
12-07-2014, 06:55 PM
Yeah, and I still can't figure out why Fissure can't hold for a snap count.

An Anal Fissure (fissure-in-ano) is a small, oval shaped tear in skin that lines the opening of the anus. Sounds about right for seven deuce.

Beef Supreme
12-07-2014, 06:55 PM
It was in fact, offensive pass interference on Fasano. He pushed the defender who probably flopped a little, but still it was interference. I am fine with the ref not throwing the flag on Fasano on a cheap penalty unless it ends up directly benefiting him and affecting the play. That is why he waited to throw it.

Also, Fasano knew it immediately. He didn't argue the call one bit or even react negatively. That tells you everything you need to know.

Except earlier in the game when a Larry Fitzgerald similarly ran into a defender that was just standing there, the guys in the booth were talking about how it was defensive pass interference.

Discuss Thrower
12-07-2014, 06:56 PM
The sad thing is, because Derek Carr is already a much better QB than Alex Smith, unless Dorsey hits on every draft pick, fixing the O-line, finding a receiver, repairing the run defense, and filling the holes in the secondary, I can envision Oakland with Better record next season.

Chiefs will go 1-5 at best against the AFC West assuming Peyton is still around next year.

JohnnyHammersticks
12-07-2014, 07:01 PM
What's surprising is that combining the worst group of WRs and the worst offensive line in the NFL with a terrible QB has resulted in such a pathetic offense.

Baffling.

Bearcat
12-07-2014, 07:03 PM
Thing is Smith will have a "trash" day against a shitty team and have 3-4 td's and get the homers excited again and nothing will change. This guy sucks.

Hell, all it takes sometimes is one play or one TD drive... or they'll start 5-2 or something next year and it's different this time!

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-07-2014, 07:09 PM
Smith has the fifth worst QBR in the league against the blitz. He's a limited, scared player. Perfectly mediocre, but it's pointless trying to win with him as QB.

ThaVirus
12-07-2014, 07:09 PM
Hell, all it takes sometimes is one play or one TD drive... or they'll start 5-2 or something next year and it's different this time!


Yeah, they definitely fooled me.

I mean, shit. We lost so many starters this season due to injury at one point or another. We ripped off that 5 game win streak and 7 of 8 in spite of that. We looked damn good in that span. Beating the Rams, Hawks, Chargers, Bills, Dolphins, Patriots..

Now it all comes crashing down. This shit sandwich tastes like shit.

Hootie
12-07-2014, 07:12 PM
He's pretty much dead to me.

I'm tired of watching it.

throw the fucking ball down the field

Pablo
12-07-2014, 07:14 PM
So, this is Dorsey's grand vision. This is what he was cooking up all off-season.

Take a middling, dickless QB. Trade away two seconds for this guy. Make sure you lock him down because you don't want him slipping away and bringing some other team and fanbase the joy of endless mediocre seasons. Add in hilariously sad first round draft picks. Ignore or fail to fill obvious personnel holes. Get Reid to scarf down this plate of misery, and shit his guts out at the 50 yard line in any game where you just need rational, productive play-calling.

Fuck you Dorsey. Fuck you Andy. Fuck you Alex.

Pablo
12-07-2014, 07:16 PM
Hell, all it takes sometimes is one play or one TD drive... or they'll start 5-2 or something next year and it's different this time!Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me three times, and I must be a Chiefs fan.

Pablo
12-07-2014, 07:18 PM
He's pretty much dead to me.

I'm tired of watching it.

throw the fucking ball down the fieldHe's been effectively neutered. We bought a broken toy. And nothing is going to change that.

And yes, it is the most miserable of viewing experiences.

ping2000
12-07-2014, 07:21 PM
Like I said in the game thread, Smith would stand on one card in blackjack.

DrunkBassGuitar
12-07-2014, 07:31 PM
at least Smith didn't take a 10 yard sack on 2nd down

small victories

Pablo
12-08-2014, 01:17 PM
610 prattling on about this abortion of a drive.

One guy is making the same Alexcuses we're used to here on CP.

But nobody trusts Alex to win the game, obviously.

TEX
12-08-2014, 02:11 PM
He's been effectively neutered. We bought a broken toy. And nothing is going to change that.

And yes, it is the most miserable of viewing experiences.

I think we broke the toy and it doesn't work anymore...

ModSocks
12-08-2014, 02:13 PM
610 prattling on about this abortion of a drive.

One guy is making the same Alexcuses we're used to here on CP.

But nobody trusts Alex to win the game, obviously.

Not even his own receivers trust Alex to win the game.

"We're not a team that can comeback from a deficit" -or some shit like that.

When your #1 Receiver says that, that's all you need to know.

The Franchise
12-08-2014, 02:15 PM
Not even his own receivers trust Alex to win the game.

"We're not a team that can comeback from a deficit" -or some shit like that.

When your #1 Receiver says that, that's all you need to know.

He might as well had asked what Matt Cassel was doing.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 02:17 PM
I cant think of a HC that could call a worse set of plays in the 2 min offense than Reid has this year.

Just down right atrocious... You could put a love child of 400,000 NFL QB's over the history of the NFL and that kid would look at you like you are retarded.

Reid is making Herm look competent.

ModSocks
12-08-2014, 02:19 PM
I cant think of a HC that could call a worse set of plays in the 2 min offense than Reid has this year.

Just down right atrocious... You could put a love child of 400,000 NFL QB's over the history of the NFL and that kid would look at you like you are retarded.

Reid is making Herm look competent.

I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.

The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.

The Franchise
12-08-2014, 02:21 PM
I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.

The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.

See.....this is where I'm fucking stuck.

We all know that Smith isn't going to throw down the field. So is Andy calling the plays hoping that Smith will snap out of it?

ptlyon
12-08-2014, 02:27 PM
See.....this is where I'm ****ing stuck.

We all know that Smith isn't going to throw down the field. So is Andy calling the plays hoping that Smith will snap his neck?

FYP

Iowanian
12-08-2014, 02:28 PM
I have thrown as many TD's to WR's this year as Alex Smith.

Aspengc8
12-08-2014, 02:28 PM
I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.

The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.

KC runs a few 'designed' checkdown's, the ones where you see WR's blocking though. The checkdowns you saw yesterday were from Alex not wanted to take a shot downfield. AZ blitzed every play during that 1 minute drill, and not ONCE did he take the 1v1 with bowe.



See.....this is where I'm ****ing stuck.

We all know that Smith isn't going to throw down the field. So is Andy calling the plays hoping that Smith will snap out of it?


He needs to start taking the shots down field. They review the same film, and see the same things we do. Even on the Kelce late fumble, Wilson was WIDE open on the 7 route, yet he checked down to the stick route.

Ran similar concepts last year but Alex at least attempted the throws...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/10/2/4793616/kansas-city-chiefs-levels-passing-concepts-breakdown

loochy
12-08-2014, 02:33 PM
Worst. Absolutely ridiculous.

Are you sure? Was it worse than the croyle/huard/thigpen/cassel/orton/quinn?

I mean, the last 8 years have been pretty awful.

The Franchise
12-08-2014, 02:35 PM
Kansas City Chiefs at 01:09
1-10-KC 24
(1:09) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at KC 26 for 2 yards (57-A.Okafor).
2-8-KC 26
(1:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 81-J.Avant to KC 30 for 4 yards (25-J.Powers) [57-A.Okafor].
3-4-KC 30
(:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to KC 36 for 6 yards (25-J.Powers).
1-10-KC 36
(:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 25-J.Charles.
2-10-KC 36
(:19) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-72-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 36 - No Play.
2-15-KC 31
(:19) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short left to 12-A.Wilson.
3-15-KC 31
(:16) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 12-A.Wilson.
4-15-KC 31
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant (93-C.Campbell).

KCUnited
12-08-2014, 02:40 PM
Still can't wrap my mind around the 20 second run off after a 6 yard pass for a 1st down only to overthrow Charles on a swing pass.

CoMoChief
12-08-2014, 02:40 PM
No time outs...1min left. So the Chiefs decide to dink and dunk the middle of the field instead of getting the ball to the sidelines and then out of bounds to stop the clock...and when they got a 1st down...instead of spiking the ball they let 15-20sec run off the clock. LMAO.

Thats herm edwards level of stupid.

Dartgod
12-08-2014, 02:43 PM
Kansas City Chiefs at 01:09
1-10-KC 24
(1:09) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at KC 26 for 2 yards (57-A.Okafor).
2-8-KC 26
(1:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 81-J.Avant to KC 30 for 4 yards (25-J.Powers) [57-A.Okafor].
3-4-KC 30
(:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to KC 36 for 6 yards (25-J.Powers).
1-10-KC 36
(:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 25-J.Charles.
2-10-KC 36
(:19) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-72-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 36 - No Play.
2-15-KC 31
(:19) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short left to 12-A.Wilson.
3-15-KC 31
(:16) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 12-A.Wilson.
4-15-KC 31
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant (93-C.Campbell).

Let's not forget that 22 seconds elapsed between the two bolded plays. The lack of situational awareness is mind-bottling.

Hootie
12-08-2014, 02:44 PM
it far surpassed Herm Edwards level of stupid

I have never seen anything like that.

Thank God he just threw a pick on the first play against the 49ers because that was a lot less rapey feeling than what we witnessed yesterday

Dartgod
12-08-2014, 02:44 PM
Let's not forget that 22 seconds elapsed between the two bolded plays. The lack of situational awareness is mind-bottling.

Ok, so at least two of you didn't forget. :D

Hootie
12-08-2014, 02:47 PM
my buddy who is a Broncos fan was watching with me because we were at a sports bar and he literally lol'd when I looked at him after the Wilson screen pass call and said, "do they think we have another quarter?"

I mean.

What?

16 seconds

no timeouts

WR screen

...what were they hoping for?

I just...

haha

I laughed. I used to get so mad at these things, but that part of me died after the Indy abortion last year.

This time?

Just pure laughter.

What the fuck?

ptlyon
12-08-2014, 02:49 PM
What I find mind boggling is what mind bottling is

Fire Me Boy!
12-08-2014, 02:50 PM
Are you sure? Was it worse than the croyle/huard/thigpen/cassel/orton/quinn?



I mean, the last 8 years have been pretty awful.


Yes. Because with Huard, Thigpen, et al, I didn't have any hope; incompetence was expected.

Fire Me Boy!
12-08-2014, 02:50 PM
What I find mind boggling is what mind bottling is


CP lexicon.

gblowfish
12-08-2014, 02:50 PM
Kansas City Chiefs at 01:09
1-10-KC 24
(1:09) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 25-J.Charles pushed ob at KC 26 for 2 yards (57-A.Okafor).
2-8-KC 26
(1:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 81-J.Avant to KC 30 for 4 yards (25-J.Powers) [57-A.Okafor].
3-4-KC 30
(:42) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to KC 36 for 6 yards (25-J.Powers).
1-10-KC 36
(:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 25-J.Charles.
2-10-KC 36
(:19) (Shotgun) PENALTY on KC-72-E.Fisher, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 36 - No Play.
2-15-KC 31
(:19) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short left to 12-A.Wilson.
3-15-KC 31
(:16) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 12-A.Wilson.
4-15-KC 31
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant (93-C.Campbell).

This is a Cassel drive.
Duke
Duke
Duke
Duke

of

Dink
Dink
Dink....

ptlyon
12-08-2014, 02:51 PM
CP lexicon.

Thought it might be

ChiTown
12-08-2014, 02:53 PM
We lost by 3 FUCKING points. 3!!!

We utilized that last 1:09 like we had no idea we were still in the game. We needed approximately 40 FUCKING yards. 40!!!!! to give ourselves a legit chance to kick a game-tying FG. I hate this Staff, Our QB, and this Team. They are a heaping load of worthless cum curds.

Dartgod
12-08-2014, 02:55 PM
What I find mind boggling is what mind bottling is

First few seconds of this clip from Blades of Glory.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/0DFBoLZC3Bw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KCUnited
12-08-2014, 02:55 PM
I wonder what percentage of playoff games are decided in the last 2 minutes. An above average 2 minute offense seems like a crucial necessity going into the playoff, and ours has gone from fetal to fecal.

Fire Me Boy!
12-08-2014, 02:57 PM
I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.



The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.


I agree with this. I think for whatever reason, Smith is terrified to take chances to the point of paralysis - even when the game is on the line.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 02:57 PM
I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.

The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.

Well its much easier to just blindly bash the shit hole QB then it is to tackle the Fat Guy for sure.

But if people are going to defend these game plans and the season long bullshit 2 min offense then fans get what they deserve...

Frosty
12-08-2014, 03:00 PM
We lost by 3 ****ING points. 3!!!

We utilized that last 1:09 like we had no idea we were still in the game. We needed approximately 40 ****ING yards. 40!!!!! to give ourselves a legit chance to kick a game-tying FG. I hate this Staff, Our QB, and this Team. They are a heaping load of worthless cum curds.

This.

When Smith started throwing sideways passes in that drive, I fast-forwarded to the end and then deleted the game.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 03:00 PM
I agree with this. I think for whatever reason, Smith is terrified to take chances to the point of paralysis - even when the game is on the line.

If it was single instance then it would have merit, but its been season long.

We have zero 2 min offense, we cant score or stretch the field, our play calling makes Herms look like the new version of Madden.

Reid is the root cause of this offense, Alex is just an extension of Reid on the field. Yes Alex sucks, but excuses for Reid so one can blame Alex is nauseating...

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 03:01 PM
We lost by 3 ****ING points. 3!!!

We utilized that last 1:09 like we had no idea we were still in the game. We needed approximately 40 ****ING yards. 40!!!!! to give ourselves a legit chance to kick a game-tying FG. I hate this Staff, Our QB, and this Team. They are a heaping load of worthless cum curds.


Remember 10 Days to prepare for Denver?

Our coach is a fat lazy white version of a Herm and Crennel love child.

Molitoth
12-08-2014, 03:04 PM
Reid is the root cause of this offense, Alex is just an extension of Reid on the field. Yes Alex sucks, but excuses for Reid so one can blame Alex is nauseating...

Yup. They are a package deal.
The gameplan is terribad, and Alex executes it very well.

ptlyon
12-08-2014, 03:04 PM
Our coach is a fat lazy white version of a Herm and Crennel love child.

Wow ROFL

Mav
12-08-2014, 03:05 PM
Remember 10 Days to prepare for Denver?

Our coach is a fat lazy white version of a Herm and Crennel love child.

what happened to our 3 tight end sets that were so awesome?

Frosty
12-08-2014, 03:07 PM
what happened to our 3 tight end sets that were so awesome?

Harris got hurt and they haven't been able to replace him. That was pretty much the exact moment the offense went into the tank.

Hootie
12-08-2014, 03:09 PM
Trent Green had a few of these limitations as well. Our offense, and Alex, can be VERY efficient as long as the defense is off balance and doesn't know what to expect.

As soon as they know we have to pass, it's over. Game. Set. Match.

You guys won't believe it but we were the same way, albeit much flashier, in 2004.

Trent and the offense was amazing until the defense knew we had to pass and then we were toast.

That's the problem with being a running team in a passing league.

ThaVirus
12-08-2014, 03:19 PM
I doubt Reid intended on Smith dumping it off 4 straight attempts.



The checkdown is likely designed in the play as an "oh shit" for Smith, i doubt the checkdowns were designed as primary targets.


I would think you're right but the screen to Wilson makes me wonder. Was that Reid attempting to be a genius or recognizing that Alex simply wouldn't go down field and hoping for the best? It was a horrible call either way, but we as fans will never know that type of thing.

Those little dump offs should be last ditch things and should never be thrown with a defender within 7 yards of them under that circumstance. The funny thing is, we likely could have gotten some chunk yardage out of a couple of those to Jamaal if we had a QB that made defenses respect the long ball.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 03:20 PM
Yup. They are a package deal.
The gameplan is terribad, and Alex executes it very well.

This, if one goes they both go...

Reid made his oversized king bed, now he must sleep in it...

he picked Alex and signed him long term...

Jerm
12-08-2014, 03:20 PM
Still can't wrap my mind around the 20 second run off after a 6 yard pass for a 1st down only to overthrow Charles on a swing pass.

It was the worst/funniest Chiefs moment since Cassel's Fail Mary...

Sums up the current Chiefs pretty nicely.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 03:22 PM
I would think you're right but the screen to Wilson makes me wonder. Was that Reid attempting to be a genius or recognizing that Alex simply wouldn't go down field and hoping for the best? It was a horrible call either way, but we as fans will never know that type of thing.

Those little dump offs should be last ditch things and should never be thrown with a defender within 7 yards of them under that circumstance. The funny thing is, we likely could have gotten some chunk yardage out of a couple of those to Jamaal if we had a QB that made defenses respect the long ball.

Reid knows his QB, he signed the fucker... No Excuse for Reids game plans to be nothing but dumpoffs, screens, crossing routes, etc...

Alex is running Reids dumpster fire offense to perfection. There just isn't enough talent on the team to over come Reids dumb shit...

KCUnited
12-08-2014, 03:25 PM
It was the worst/funniest Chiefs moment since Cassel's Fail Mary...

Sums up the current Chiefs pretty nicely.

It killed me. Not only did you run 20 seconds off by not spiking the ball on 1st down, but the play you finally did run was a fucking swing pass that you fucking Ricky Vaughn'd for an incompletion.

Pablo
12-08-2014, 03:26 PM
We're running the Triple A offense.

Andy, Alex, Abortion.

These two were made for each other. Alex is the perfect guy to turtle up and shit his pants in pressure situations. Reid has never seen a clock in his life. His house in equipped with sun dials only.

Good thing we locked Alex up; wouldn't want anyone else getting this sort of competitive advantage with the game on the line.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 03:27 PM
We're running the Triple A offense.

Andy, Alex, Abortion.

These two were made for each other. Alex is the perfect guy to turtle up and shit his pants in pressure situations. Reid has never seen a clock in his life. His house in equipped with sun dials only.

Good thing we locked Alex up; wouldn't want anyone else getting this sort of competitive advantage with the game on the line.Boom

Pablo
12-08-2014, 03:28 PM
It killed me. Not only did you run 20 seconds off by not spiking the ball on 1st down, but the play you finally did run was a fucking swing pass that you fucking Ricky Vaughn'd for an incompletion.It didn't have any sort of emotional reaction at the time. I just didn't understand it. I couldn't process what I was watching. I'm confident Junior High teams have the wherewithal to execute a better effort than what we watched.

Looking back, it pisses me off, but I'm the one to blame for watching this shit. I should know better by now. As a Chiefs fan, I have nobody to blame but myself for caring about this franchise when the writing is on the wall.

Frosty
12-08-2014, 03:28 PM
There is some evidence that Reid does want more a downfield passing game. That's the way they came out against the Titans and Alex threw two picks and was sacked a bunch of times. They tried it again in the first half against Miami and Alex got sacked on almost every deep dropback. It's a bad line and Alex holds the ball too long, waiting for the play to be 100% open. That's a deadly combination and Reid had to adjust. i don't think Reid likes playing Martyball, though, and keeps trying to get away from it (like forgetting to run JC and Davis).

KCUnited
12-08-2014, 03:33 PM
It didn't have any sort of emotional reaction at the time. I just didn't understand it. I couldn't process what I was watching. I'm confident Junior High teams have the wherewithal to execute a better effort than what we watched.

Looking back, it pisses me off, but I'm the one to blame for watching this shit. I should know better by now. As a Chiefs fan, I have nobody to blame but myself for caring about this franchise when the writing is on the wall.

Yeah, just when I think I have a deficit of fucks to give, they find a new way to spark a negative emotion.

It's sad, as a pass catcher during a Chiefs 2 minute drill, you're better off swatting an Alex Smith pass down to the ground just to save some clock.

ThaVirus
12-08-2014, 03:37 PM
It didn't have any sort of emotional reaction at the time. I just didn't understand it. I couldn't process what I was watching. I'm confident Junior High teams have the wherewithal to execute a better effort than what we watched.



Looking back, it pisses me off, but I'm the one to blame for watching this shit. I should know better by now. As a Chiefs fan, I have nobody to blame but myself for caring about this franchise when the writing is on the wall.


Your choice. Get a clue.

NJChiefsFan
12-08-2014, 03:57 PM
Let's not forget that 22 seconds elapsed between the two bolded plays. The lack of situational awareness is mind-bottling.

I couldn't even yell. I just couldn't form a coherent sentence after that play. This guy is supposed to be a high IQ player. It certainly was a Chief play though, that's for damn sure.

Aspengc8
12-08-2014, 04:02 PM
If it was single instance then it would have merit, but its been season long.

We have zero 2 min offense, we cant score or stretch the field, our play calling makes Herms look like the new version of Madden.

Reid is the root cause of this offense, Alex is just an extension of Reid on the field. Yes Alex sucks, but excuses for Reid so one can blame Alex is nauseating...

Can you elaborate on Reid's gameplan being the cause? I know he has made some bad play calls & clock mis-management, but as far as the plays themselves, we run the same passing concepts as every other NFL team. Most of the time Alex either misses a read, line collapses or just plain out checks down/takes the underneath throw. These are not all designed 'check-downs'.


edit: Here is an example. The kelce fumble video. ignore the Kelce fumble and look at the spot passing concept. Flat defender stays with the arrow, Wilson #13 leaves his man on the 7 route.. wide open for a nice gain. Checks down to Kelce without even making the ****ing first read.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120709/2014/REG14/chiefs@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000440408&tab=videos

The Franchise
12-08-2014, 04:10 PM
Can you elaborate on Reid's gameplan being the cause? I know he has made some bad play calls & clock mis-management, but as far as the plays themselves, we run the same passing concepts as every other NFL team. Most of the time Alex either misses a read, line collapses or just plain out checks down/takes the underneath throw. These are not all designed 'check-downs'.


edit: Here is an example. The kelce fumble video. ignore the Kelce fumble and look at the spot passing concept. Flat defender stays with the arrow, Wilson #13 leaves his man on the 7 route.. wide open for a nice gain. Checks down to Kelce without even making the ****ing first read.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120709/2014/REG14/chiefs@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000440408&tab=videos

That's DAT, btw.

stevieray
12-08-2014, 04:13 PM
It killed me. Not only did you run 20 seconds off by not spiking the ball on 1st down, but the play you finally did run was a ****ing swing pass that you ****ing Ricky Vaughn'd for an incompletion.
I didn't see the last possession.

Reerun_KC
12-08-2014, 04:14 PM
Can you elaborate on Reid's gameplan being the cause? I know he has made some bad play calls & clock mis-management, but as far as the plays themselves, we run the same passing concepts as every other NFL team. Most of the time Alex either misses a read, line collapses or just plain out checks down/takes the underneath throw. These are not all designed 'check-downs'.


edit: Here is an example. The kelce fumble video. ignore the Kelce fumble and look at the spot passing concept. Flat defender stays with the arrow, Wilson #13 leaves his man on the 7 route.. wide open for a nice gain. Checks down to Kelce without even making the ****ing first read.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120709/2014/REG14/chiefs@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000440408&tab=videos


So why the check down? There is something fundamentally wrong with Reid and Smith... I cant put my hand on it. Everyone of Reid's plays has way too many outs which are great, but for some reason they are using them as first reads and not your typical dump offs...

And I am not going to quote the CP QB bashing manual and rehash the same old shit everyone says about Smith... He cant go deep, no accurate, blah blah blah, same fucks saying same shit its wore out.

sd4chiefs
12-08-2014, 04:19 PM
I am sleeping a lot better on Sunday nights since I canceled Sunday Ticket this year and am not watching the Chiefs play stupid football.

ChiTown
12-08-2014, 04:21 PM
Can you elaborate on Reid's gameplan being the cause? I know he has made some bad play calls & clock mis-management, but as far as the plays themselves, we run the same passing concepts as every other NFL team. Most of the time Alex either misses a read, line collapses or just plain out checks down/takes the underneath throw. These are not all designed 'check-downs'.


edit: Here is an example. The kelce fumble video. ignore the Kelce fumble and look at the spot passing concept. Flat defender stays with the arrow, Wilson #13 leaves his man on the 7 route.. wide open for a nice gain. Checks down to Kelce without even making the ****ing first read.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120709/2014/REG14/chiefs@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000440408&tab=videos

Great catch noticing that. I hadn't noticed that. You have to wonder if he gets that ball to DAT, if he scores to the outside, given the defender slips.

This shit just makes me:shake:

ct
12-08-2014, 04:22 PM
was driving home from OKC and SO glad i was spared the agony of watching this dumpster fire on on the tube

The Franchise
12-08-2014, 04:24 PM
So why the check down? There is something fundamentally wrong with Reid and Smith... I cant put my hand on it. Everyone of Reid's plays has way too many outs which are great, but for some reason they are using them as first reads and not your typical dump offs...

And I am not going to quote the CP QB bashing manual and rehash the same old shit everyone says about Smith... He cant go deep, no accurate, blah blah blah, same ****s saying same shit its wore out.

Pretty much every play has a checkdown. This isn't on Reid....it's on Smith. Smith is looking at his first read and then immediately going checkdown.

Rain Man
12-08-2014, 05:57 PM
I agree with this. I think for whatever reason, Smith is terrified to take chances to the point of paralysis - even when the game is on the line.


We've seen him twice in the last three weeks running out of bounds or taking a sack on fourth down at the end of the game. Throw the ball. It doesn't matter. Throw the ball. Even if it's a 1% chance of being completed and a 99% chance of being intercepted, that's better than running out of bounds or taking the sack.

stevieray
12-08-2014, 06:35 PM
We've seen him twice in the last three weeks running out of bounds or taking a sack on fourth down at the end of the game. Throw the ball. It doesn't matter. Throw the ball. Even if it's a 1% chance of being completed and a 99% chance of being intercepted, that's better than running out of bounds or taking the sack.

yup, that situation is not rocket surgery.

Psyko Tek
12-08-2014, 08:13 PM
And Andy Reid...

that would be a NUTHOOKS offense

that fucker calls a game for an offense he ain't got

ghak99
12-08-2014, 10:33 PM
Which one of you guys called in to "The Rant" tonight?

Almost had to be a CP member.

007
12-09-2014, 02:58 AM
The STH that I get my tickets from is considering dumping them next year. Suppose it is good that the decision falls with him and not me. I was considering picking up his extra ticket permanently but not so sure now.

007
12-09-2014, 03:00 AM
No time outs...1min left. So the Chiefs decide to dink and dunk the middle of the field instead of getting the ball to the sidelines and then out of bounds to stop the clock...and when they got a 1st down...instead of spiking the ball they let 15-20sec run off the clock. LMAO.

Thats herm edwards level of stupid.

I think Herm could have done better.

007
12-09-2014, 03:07 AM
We've seen him twice in the last three weeks running out of bounds or taking a sack on fourth down at the end of the game. Throw the ball. It doesn't matter. Throw the ball. Even if it's a 1% chance of being completed and a 99% chance of being intercepted, that's better than running out of bounds or taking the sack.

But, but, but.... Stats man. He needs his positive stats.

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 09:09 AM
Pretty much every play has a checkdown. This isn't on Reid....it's on Smith. Smith is looking at his first read and then immediately going checkdown.

He won't throw his receivers open. There is no coverage on the sideline on that play, he could have stared down the arrow and threw DAT (sorry bout that) open. Kelce's route will be open most of the time, he can sit or run the out depending on what he sees. Arrow pulls the flat defender down, 7 route over the top of that. This is a common sideline flood/spot concept.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 09:15 AM
Dumb ****s will defend Alex in this thread.

Should be fun.

Love the guy!! THANKS DORSE!!!!! GO CHIEFS!!!

Sully
12-09-2014, 09:18 AM
That was a bad two minute drive, but there have been worse.

I mean, there have been two minute drives where the driving team throws a pick on the first play. That's gotta be worse.

stumppy
12-09-2014, 09:25 AM
That was a bad two minute drive, but there have been worse.

I mean, there have been two minute drives where the driving team throws a pick on the first play. That's gotta be worse.

Do you want the bandage ripped off real fast or so slow you feel every single bit of all the pain involved for 2 entire minutes ?

KCUnited
12-09-2014, 09:28 AM
Yeah, the Cassel screen pass interception at San Diego occurred with 1:26 left in the game down 3.

Sully
12-09-2014, 09:40 AM
Do you want the bandage ripped off real fast or so slow you feel every single bit of all the pain involved for 2 entire minutes ?

I don't think that applies, here. Even after every short pass, wasted clock, etc... there's a (minuscule) chance something good happens on the next play. After an interception, unless Rivers is taking the snap, it's over.

Big Poppa Payne
12-09-2014, 09:41 AM
We need Casey Printers back

stumppy
12-09-2014, 09:47 AM
I don't think that applies, here. Even after every short pass, wasted clock, etc... there's a (minuscule) chance something good happens on the next play. After an interception, unless Rivers is taking the snap, it's over.

I know what you mean. I guess , for me, it's a case of 'been here done that' too many times. When it comes down to coming from behind in the last 2 minutes I fully expect them to lose. Every single time.

Sully
12-09-2014, 09:51 AM
I know what you mean. I guess , for me, it's a case of 'been here done that' too many times. When it comes down to coming from behind in the last 2 minutes I fully expect them to lose. Every single time.

I'm with you.
I hod the lowest of expectations for a positive outcome with that drive. But there's always that one chance.
Grbac had the huge Rison TD on that Monday night in oakland.
Cassell had the huge throw to Moss while in new England
Even the worst win every once in a while...

Fairplay
12-09-2014, 09:52 AM
Which one of you guys called in to "The Rant" tonight?

Almost had to be a CP member.

That was me I thought I did a good job of expressing my view.

ghak99
12-09-2014, 10:11 AM
That was me I thought I did a good job of expressing my view.

:clap:

I was almost sure it had to be a CP member.

lcarus
12-09-2014, 10:16 AM
We need Casey Printers back

This offense has way too much chicken shit for him to make a salad.

Coogs
12-09-2014, 11:02 AM
I've kind of wondered why we don't go to our hurry up "two minute" offense, to change things up if the offense needs a spark. Turns out we apparently run the "two minute" offense the entire game. :banghead:

Reerun_KC
12-09-2014, 11:27 AM
Pretty much every play has a checkdown. This isn't on Reid....it's on Smith. Smith is looking at his first read and then immediately going checkdown.
Take the outlet away and force him to go down Field.

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 11:29 AM
Take the outlet away and force him to go down Field.

I've already said that.

ptlyon
12-09-2014, 11:31 AM
I've already said that.

For every check down, take off a digit

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 11:32 AM
Every part of this organization has shit the bed.

Dorsey shit the bed with the players that he's put on this team.
Reid shit the bed for continually starting players like McGlynn.
Smith shit the bed because he either has no confidence in himself or he's just a scared bitch and refuses to take chances.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:36 AM
Does anyone really, actually shit in their bed - do you think? Serious question + asking for a friend of mine....

ptlyon
12-09-2014, 11:39 AM
Does anyone really, actually shit in their bed - do you think? Serious question + asking for a friend of mine....

Old people do

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:40 AM
Old people do

Thanks.

Sorter
12-09-2014, 11:40 AM
Everytime McGlynn fucks up, I grimace/cringe.



My facr is going to be stuck in permanent state of disgust by the end of this season.

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 11:41 AM
Everytime McGlynn ****s up, I grimace/cringe.



My facr is going to be stuck in permanent state of disgust by the end of this season.

Yet....he's still out there. So either Reid is fucking stupid and doesn't want to make a change. OR he doesn't believe that anyone behind McGlynn could do better. Both of those are fucking pathetic.

And because we're "still in the playoff race", we won't get to see any of the younger guys get reps.

ptlyon
12-09-2014, 11:44 AM
I suggest they all get hammered before the game. It would look like the late 70's all over again.

stumppy
12-09-2014, 11:46 AM
Does anyone really, actually shit in their bed - do you think? Serious question + asking for a friend of mine....

I sharted once.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:50 AM
I suggest they all get hammered before the game. It would look like the late 70's all over again.

Seriously - that's an EXCELLENT point.

I used to throw darts with some of the best shooters in the SE. They would all get laced on Cocaine in the bar's bathroom, come back 'focused' and then start pounding trips (darts.)

I think Alex should try Cocaine prior to games - at this point. It really may help!

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:52 AM
I sharted once.

I've definitely sharted - it's awful - it's been many many years.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:56 AM
How often would you say you shart in say 8-months or 240 days or so?

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 11:56 AM
I'd say it's been a solid 24 months for me, solid i say.

ptlyon
12-09-2014, 11:59 AM
I almost did this morning. It was awful I tell ya!

Sorter
12-09-2014, 12:26 PM
He won't throw his receivers open. There is no coverage on the sideline on that play, he could have stared down the arrow and threw DAT (sorry bout that) open. Kelce's route will be open most of the time, he can sit or run the out depending on what he sees. Arrow pulls the flat defender down, 7 route over the top of that. This is a common sideline flood/spot concept.

http://i.imgur.com/UBSxCRd.jpg

Sorter
12-09-2014, 12:33 PM
Couple of stills from the final drive.

http://i.imgur.com/qF2wXUs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rLpveYm.jpg

Dave Lane
12-09-2014, 12:40 PM
Sorter if you have the shot of the final play where he just spikes it in the ground, please share it. Thank you.

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 12:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UBSxCRd.jpg

Awesome! Is that Bowe open up top on the dig as well? jesus Alex....

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:02 PM
Why was there no sense of urgency to snap the ball those times? No really - EVERYone saw that it was casual and tic, tic tic - I swear it took them like 22 seconds to form and snap. I'm guessing at the actual seconds but something near there I'd imagine - not only once but TWICE - two occasions zero sense of the situation!

Honestly - I was a boyscout for about 3 weeks, seriously I dropped out.

But we had a football team division, and my half of the troop team would have made it to the line and snapped it faster than the Chiefs. And we would wear the heavy starched navy blue dickey (brand) like slacks.

Unbelievable!

Sorter
12-09-2014, 01:03 PM
Sorter if you have the shot of the final play where he just spikes it in the ground, please share it. Thank you.

http://i.imgur.com/t9C63E5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ue5cNWz.jpg

ChiTown
12-09-2014, 01:04 PM
Couple of stills from the final drive.

http://i.imgur.com/qF2wXUs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rLpveYm.jpg

I want to slaughter baby kittens when I see these images.:banghead:

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:11 PM
What's even more pathetic - you could populate a 100+ thread on here w/ nothing but pics of whiffed (by Alex) reads and there again; expose his inept awareness.

We're actually the exact same team as last year - only a little different chemical-reaction as the final pathetic 'fielded' product.

We suck.

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 01:13 PM
Yep, it's obvious. None of our WRs ever get open.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:15 PM
Yep, it's obvious. None of our WRs ever get open.

well I wouldn't say they're always that way - to be fair here. WR is still a huge concern in my book - and i'm not saying that - just reminding. IDK - fuck - who cares? This thread ruined my day.

ChiTown
12-09-2014, 01:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/t9C63E5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ue5cNWz.jpg

He knows he is being blitzed, and he can't stop from shitting himself - therefore, immediate check-down without looking to the primary targets.

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 01:17 PM
well I wouldn't say they're always that way - to be fair here. WR is still a huge concern in my book - and i'm not saying that - just reminding. IDK - **** - who cares? This thread ruined my day.

Difference between the WRs last year? Dexter McCluster. He was just fine with them last year. If anything....it should be better because he has another off season of working with them.

Sorter
12-09-2014, 01:19 PM
well I wouldn't say they're always that way - to be fair here. WR is still a huge concern in my book - and i'm not saying that - just reminding. IDK - fuck - who cares? This thread ruined my day.

I'm sorry.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:19 PM
Yeah and did you all watch Brady on Sunday? My God - now THAT is how it's done via his quick release - why can't you teach that to Alex? - doesn't even matter we beat them now - we were frauds and no one had realized it until roughly 2/3 into seas. Now they've seen just how bad we really are. It was a living lie there for a bit.

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 01:22 PM
He knows he is being blitzed, and he can't stop from shitting himself - therefore, immediate check-down without looking to the primary targets.

Blitz came from the top, right through McGlynn. Receiver wide open in vacant area where he came from.

I have confidence the coaching staff can and will point this stuff out to him when they review film.... I hope.

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 01:24 PM
Blitz came from the top, right through McGlynn. Receiver wide open in vacant area where he came from.

I have confidence the coaching staff can and will point this stuff out to him when they review film.... I hope.

But when does it start making a difference? If you show him over and over again and nothing changes.......what do you do? They aren't going to bench him and teams will continue to blitz him because he can't handle it and react.

ping2000
12-09-2014, 01:25 PM
Blitz came from the top, right through McGlynn. Receiver wide open in vacant area where he came from.



I have confidence the coaching staff can and will point this stuff out to him when they review film.... I hope.


What QB from pee-wee football onward doesn't know to look for an open receiver in the direction of the blitz?

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:25 PM
I'm sorry.

Alex Smith is a terrible human. I'm so mad at him right now.

Sorter
12-09-2014, 01:26 PM
I really can't stress enough how terrible McGlynn is.

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9lb8jEADn1qherqwo1_400.gif

Jimmya
12-09-2014, 01:30 PM
It doesn't take but a second to throw a quick fade route at the end of the game.

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 01:31 PM
What QB from pee-wee football onward doesn't know to look for an open receiver in the direction of the blitz?

I'm just trying to be optimistic here, buddy. It's a fact that we are stuck with Alex through the four year extension, and its going to be a long four years if he doesn't wake up.

WilliamTheIrish
12-09-2014, 01:32 PM
Dat stills....

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 01:32 PM
I really can't stress enough how terrible McGlynn is.

https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9lb8jEADn1qherqwo1_400.gif

Sorter do you have any animated gif's of McGlynn missing blocks?

The Franchise
12-09-2014, 01:33 PM
My only glimmer of hope is that Reid is trying to force Smith to throw down the field more. Smith is showing that he either can't or he won't.....and then Reid/Dorsey will just cut him after this season.

Yeah.....I'm dumb. I know.

ptlyon
12-09-2014, 01:33 PM
I'm just trying to be optimistic here, buddy. It's a fact that we are stuck with Alex through the four year extension, and its going to be a long four years if he doesn't wake up die of aids.

FYP

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:35 PM
why can't they utilize a fake to charles right and then a quick out to DAT on the other side - or even Wilson? I saw Brady use that play against the blitz maybe 2 times and it really worked out - do we just not have the staff to block 'downfield' - was Fasano out on Sun? Did that hurt us more than we thought it would - do you think?

Straight, No Chaser
12-09-2014, 01:40 PM
why can't they utilize a fake to charles right and then a quick out to DAT on the other side - or even Wilson? I saw Brady use that play against the blitz maybe 2 times and it really worked out - do we just not have the staff to block 'downfield' - was Fasano out on Sun? Did that hurt us more than we thought it would - do you think?

Todd Bowles schemed after the half to shut out Alex by predominately only rushing three guys and dropping the rest into zone, especially on the INT, while still blitzing selectively. It worked. Expect it again this weekend.

Sorter
12-09-2014, 01:41 PM
Sorter do you have any animated gif's of McGlynn missing blocks?

I don't.

Clay could probably provide some. It'd be fun if I could find some plays and post the blocking for it. Would require some time and collaboration though.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:42 PM
Todd Bowles schemed after the half to shut out Alex by predominately only rushing three guys and dropping the rest into zone, especially on the INT, while still blitzing selectively. It worked. Expect it again this weekend.

Meh I think Fasano played, actually - IIRC.

Never mind that whole last post. Just looking for the answers.

Dartgod
12-09-2014, 01:42 PM
was Fasano out on Sun?

Fasano drew the bogus OPI call that cost us 7 points.

Straight, No Chaser
12-09-2014, 01:47 PM
Meh I think Fasano played, actually - IIRC.

Never mind that whole last post. Just looking for the answers.

The answer is Alex being able to punish the defense of the Faid, Steelers and Bolts with his arm... those teams will try and copy what the Cardinals did in the second half.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 01:50 PM
Fasano drew the bogus OPI call that cost us 7 points.

I saw that - :banghead: - yeah scratch that post entirely - this is what happens when I try to do the Chiefs' detective work.

suzzer99
12-09-2014, 02:04 PM
I've definitely sharted - it's awful - it's been many many years.

I've found as I get older the years get shorter and shorter between sharts. The trend is not good.

Hootie
12-09-2014, 02:09 PM
I don't know, man. Was that the play where Kelce fumbled?

It looks like a few of those still frames happened after the ball had already been thrown, which explains one DB turning around since the ball was obviously going to Kelce.

I didn't conclude much from those .jpgs

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 04:03 PM
I don't know, man. Was that the play where Kelce fumbled?

It looks like a few of those still frames happened after the ball had already been thrown, which explains one DB turning around since the ball was obviously going to Kelce.

I didn't conclude much from those .jpgs

Nope, he spun around to cover DAT on the 7 route. There are plenty of .gif's and A22 pics showing missed reads galore by Alex.

Replay shows the play/route concept develop better.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014120709/2014/REG14/chiefs@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000440408&tab=videos

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 06:40 PM
I think Alex is not decisive enough, quick enough.

Brady is deliberate and it doesn't even matter - because when it happens it's like poof you're toasted. That's my beef with Alex I think. Even more so than the lack of deep passing.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 07:13 PM
& honestly I'd like to see Smith succeed - I really really like his personality - he's a nice/genuine level-headed guy. If it doesn't work out for him in the NFL I still think he's a hell of a good guy and pretty darned talented. I really do hope for the best for Alex.

Sorter
12-09-2014, 07:33 PM
Whelp. Alex made a nice completion last week with 22 Z In. He did not this week.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=11165199&postcount=112

http://i.imgur.com/JoXLVyZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/xJfYAxQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kX5l7Zi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jYiZNyh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U3dnkqL.jpg

Sorter
12-09-2014, 07:36 PM
This was a sack.

http://i.imgur.com/HKhSyAX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BLnmFFT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y4KqYnJ.jpg

Sorter
12-09-2014, 07:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MiciZVK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1D8TtQu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg

Sorter
12-09-2014, 07:40 PM
This was a screen but damn.

http://i.imgur.com/XPRHAV6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c7aQ7wv.jpg


LOL @ Kelce.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 08:03 PM
Whelp. Alex made a nice completion last week with 22 Z In. He did not this week.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=11165199&postcount=112

http://i.imgur.com/JoXLVyZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/xJfYAxQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kX5l7Zi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jYiZNyh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U3dnkqL.jpg

This was a sack.

http://i.imgur.com/HKhSyAX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BLnmFFT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y4KqYnJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MiciZVK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1D8TtQu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg

This was a screen but damn.

http://i.imgur.com/XPRHAV6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c7aQ7wv.jpg


LOL @ Kelce.

















http://i57.tinypic.com/2emgd9h.gif

kcjayhawks5
12-09-2014, 08:26 PM
That shit is disgusting to look at. . Wide the fuck open downfield

ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 08:33 PM
Amazing pre-snap reads by an uber intelligent QB there.

Simply Red
12-09-2014, 08:49 PM
Amazing pre-snap reads by an uber intelligent QB there.

That's the thing that gets me - seriously - he really IS very sharp and test proven academically but yet can't read nor release like Brady or any where near that fast. I don't get it - seems he has the right build and is physically gifted enough - Do these coaches not emphasize read+release ???? or teach it - or does Alex not work on drills exercising these very things?!

I don't get that part - and to me his lack of reading d's is even more detrimental than not throwing 25+ yard passes.

I really think it's lack of coaching, at least a little bit.

Aspengc8
12-09-2014, 09:08 PM
Lets be honest here.. there's not much any QB can do when the opposing defense runs Bearcat 52 Mike every freaking play. For christs sake, they have four players with their hand in the dirt!!

Pablo
12-09-2014, 09:56 PM
Alex had his testicles removed in SF. He was made to wear them on his throwing wrist like a bracelet.

Every time he steps into a throw all he can see are his own shrinking, rotting nuts flapping against his palm in his peripheral. Poor guy. Now we know why he's so gun shy.

Snapplez
12-09-2014, 10:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MiciZVK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1D8TtQu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg

Jesus. That's just unreal that he didn't throw to Bowe... I can't even begin to understand it

ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 10:02 PM
Is that DAT streaking up the seam on the that screen?

Fuck, dude. I know it's a screen but damn.

Either DAT or Kelce take that bitch for a minimum of 20 yards.

Bowser
12-09-2014, 10:04 PM
I knew it was bad, but fuck me.

ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 10:05 PM
Jesus. That's just unreal that he didn't throw to Bowe... I can't even begin to understand it


Wow. That one you quoted is shocking. Truly shocking.

I've been complaining since last year about our route tree. "Where are the posts, deep corners, double moves?" I've asked.. Looks like the outside receiver ran a post-corner.

It truly is Alex Smith. It's all Alex Smith.

Shit. Andy is a fucking retard when he gets away from the run, but maybe he's actually not. Teams are stacking the shit out of the box and daring Smith to beat them. Reid is calling passing plays in which guys are RIDICULOUSLY wide open. And Alex is not hitting them. Ever.

Wow. I'm speechless.

Discuss Thrower
12-09-2014, 10:05 PM
I'm half tempted to collate these and post them on the Chiefs' reddit page to enlighten the fanbase there.

ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 10:06 PM
Please. Can we get OldSchool or Sandy or anyone of the million retards on this board that claim our receivers are never open in here?

You've got some splainin' to dooooo!

Pablo
12-09-2014, 10:08 PM
There are posters that will look at those stills and find no fault with Alex. It's the same folks that deny dinosaurs were real.

Discuss Thrower
12-09-2014, 10:11 PM
Please. Can we get OldSchool or Sandy or anyone of the million retards on this board that claim our receivers are never open in here?

You've got some splainin' to dooooo!

Old School/Sandy Ass = Lord Refa

Actual Chiefs fans: The Narns

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ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 10:11 PM
"WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS? A GAME OF MADDEN? HE PROBABLY DIDNT SEE THEM BECAUSE HE WAS GOING THROUGH HIS PROGRESSIONS!"

Bowser
12-09-2014, 10:12 PM
Nice reads. /Brodie Croyle

ThaVirus
12-09-2014, 10:12 PM
Or maybe..

"AH WELL. HE PROBABLY DIDNT THROW IT TO THEM BECAUSE HE KNEW THEY'D DROP IT. HE DOESNT TRUST HIS RECEIVERS."

Reerun_KC
12-09-2014, 10:17 PM
There are posters that will look at those stills and find no fault with Alex. It's the same folks that deny dinosaurs were real.
Between the Alexcuses crowd and the Blowe pops. Its pretty much unreadable.

TimBone
12-09-2014, 10:19 PM
Please. Can we get OldSchool or Sandy or anyone of the million retards on this board that claim our receivers are never open in here?

You've got some splainin' to dooooo!
HE CANT HIT THEM BECAUSE OLINE

Otter
12-09-2014, 10:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg

If you can't find and hit that guy on the 15 yard line lower right in this picture you really have no business tossing a pigskin in the NFL. That's fucking ridiculous. That's an easy first down and then some.

I hope this isn't Matt Cassell part II - The Reign of Pitiful

Snapplez
12-09-2014, 11:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg

If you can't find and hit that guy on the 15 yard line lower right in this picture you really have no business tossing a pigskin in the NFL. That's ****ing ridiculous. That's an easy first down and then some.

I hope this isn't Matt Cassell part II - The Reign of Pitiful

That's a TD easy given Bowe's ability to break tackles. Shameful

Chiefs Pantalones
12-10-2014, 12:26 AM
Yeah that makes me wanna kick a cat.

I think it was Prisco last year that was getting crap about talking shit on Smith. One idiot Chiefs fan on twitter was like, what makes you an expert all he does is win, yada yada, true fan speak. Prisco's response to every tweet? "All-22." Most of the guys didn't even know what that was LMAO

Fairplay
12-10-2014, 12:29 AM
http://i.imgur.com/mslxsaq.jpg


Alex throwing the dink pass, is anyone surprised?

007
12-10-2014, 12:44 AM
We need Casey Printers back

But he can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Simply Red
12-10-2014, 12:50 AM
Alex is a great sliding quarterback - if they had a stat for that - he'd be right there atop the league - GREAT SLIDER!!

Ok but srsly; with all of the criticism on these aerials - I have to mention - maybe on two - there are issues w/ his window down field - his (Alex's) path to said receiver - some really to look like they could have been tipped - not making excuses - but I think that's worth pointing out on two of the stills.

Rausch
12-10-2014, 12:52 AM
Alex is a great sliding quarterback - if they had a stat for that - he'd be right there atop the league - GREAT SLIDER!!

Ok but srsly; with all of the criticism on these aerials - I have to mention - maybe on two - there are issues w/ his window down field - his (Alex's) path to said receiver - some really to look like they could have been tipped - not making excuses - but I think that's worth pointing out on two of the stills.

When he's pressured and he HAS to go downfield he's ass. Total ass.

This is exactly why he needs a solid o line.

007
12-10-2014, 12:52 AM
Alex throwing the dink pass, is anyone surprised?
IT absolutely amazes me that anyone calling themselves a QB in the NFL would throw the passes he did in that last minute. JUST TRULY AMAZING

ThaVirus
12-10-2014, 01:20 AM
I think we have a good idea now as to why our receivers appear to drop so many balls. They're shocked that they finally have a pass thrown their way after running countless wide open routes only to watch Alex check down to Sherman 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

Rain Man
12-10-2014, 01:29 AM
I think we have a good idea now as to why our receivers appear to drop so many balls. They're shocked that they finally have a pass thrown their way after running countless wide open routes only to watch Alex check down to Sherman 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

It's a good job for those wide receivers. They just go out and run wind sprints for three hours every Sunday (and Avery just jogs), and they get paid NFL money.

ViperVisor
12-10-2014, 02:14 AM
Ridiculous overreaction to cherry picked screen caps from almost 40 pass plays? It's like old times.

21 and 22 are watching Smith. If he looks to and throws to Bowe they react and close.

Notice how 22 is short of the number on the cap and then as the ball is being thrown is standing on the number but now reacting forward to where the ball is going?
He was dropping back during the play and got good depth while watching the QB and Peterson can also watch the QB some because he knows a safety is high middle.

The ZOMG OPEN WR Hissy fit is ridiculous with that particular play.

jonzie04
12-10-2014, 03:19 AM
This was a sack.

http://i.imgur.com/HKhSyAX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BLnmFFT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y4KqYnJ.jpg

thanks a lot for posting these shots. some REALLY eye opening shit youve posted. this one is the most bothersome to me of all the gifs you posted. taking a sack on this play with 3 guys open, and especially charles, with the nearest defender 10 yards away from him, is just terrible.

ViperVisor
12-10-2014, 03:25 AM
Terrible is McGlynn who got blown by as you can see.

That play Smith did have a outlet to throw it to on that play. Left Right or center. Maybe not a catch but better than a sack.

jonzie04
12-10-2014, 03:34 AM
Terrible is McGlynn who got blown by as you can see.

That play Smith did have a outlet to throw it to on that play. Left Right or center. Maybe not a catch but better than a sack.

mcglynn is terrible as well.

Sorter
12-10-2014, 08:28 AM
Ridiculous overreaction to cherry picked screen caps from almost 40 pass plays? It's like old times.

21 and 22 are watching Smith. If he looks to and throws to Bowe they react and close.

Notice how 22 is short of the number on the cap and then as the ball is being thrown is standing on the number but now reacting forward to where the ball is going?
He was dropping back during the play and got good depth while watching the QB and Peterson can also watch the QB some because he knows a safety is high middle.

The ZOMG OPEN WR Hissy fit is ridiculous with that particular play.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me29v2JZmZ1qfsdgh.gif