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Discuss Thrower
12-12-2014, 02:19 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OLB Tamba Hali has been fined $16,537 for his hit on Arizona QB Drew Stanton.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/543498141970857985">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Dayze
12-12-2014, 02:19 PM
LMAO

wow.

Reerun_KC
12-12-2014, 02:21 PM
Yeah can't do that Hali.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:22 PM
Fuck you, NFL.

Dayze
12-12-2014, 02:22 PM
was Von Miller fined for his hit on Alex?
I can't remember...

CaliforniaChief
12-12-2014, 02:24 PM
Holy hell that's awful.

It shouldn't have even been a penalty. Can someone tell these morons that we gave up a home game for London?

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:26 PM
was Von Miller fined for his hit on Alex?
I can't remember...

No.

Renegade
12-12-2014, 02:26 PM
This is how the NFL "justifies" the penalty flag thrown.

Clyde Frog
12-12-2014, 02:28 PM
un-fucking-believeable

Fansy the Famous Bard
12-12-2014, 02:28 PM
was Von Miller fined for his hit on Alex?
I can't remember...

He was flagged, Denver rioted for flagging the black man by a white ref... The official is now in the NFL's crosshairs. Enough damage has been done. Let's move on.

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 02:29 PM
Absolutely awful, thats sickening.

Hootie
12-12-2014, 02:30 PM
Nfl trolling us

petegz28
12-12-2014, 02:30 PM
what bullshit

CoMoChief
12-12-2014, 02:31 PM
Was that the hit where he came in low because the tackle was pushing him to the ground?

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:32 PM
Was that the hit where he came in low because the tackle was pushing him to the ground?

Yep.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 02:32 PM
was Von Miller fined for his hit on Alex?
I can't remember...

Denver linebacker Von Miller will not be fined for the hit on Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith that precipitated Kelce’s gesture.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article4299203.html#storylink=cpy

Dayze
12-12-2014, 02:33 PM
so...he gets fined.

but Von doesn't?

LMAO
hali was in the process of being thrown to the ground. Von proceeded to spear Alex in the back.

I ****ing hate the NFL. seriously. it's a terrible terrible product.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:36 PM
This apparently is not worthy of a fine.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

I suggest that every defensive player does this to Peyton Manning until it becomes worthy.

Dunerdr
12-12-2014, 02:38 PM
Someone gif up Hali vs Von miller

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 02:40 PM
I dont buy into all of the talk that Clark "doesnt want to win"... but if you wanna blame him for something, I'd start with issues like this, the consistent chokeholds given to Hali (particularly by denver) etc.

Clark is supposedly a highly respected guy in league circles, if thats the case he needs to raise hell once in a while about these kinds of things. No fine for Miller but Hali gets one for this? Clark should be on the phone this very minute chewing Goodell a new ass.

You can bet your ass Jerruh or Kraft would, Clark needs to start defending his team... the gif above is truly a stomach turner, **** the NFL and **** the broncos, God I hate them so much.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:41 PM
Here's Hali's late hit.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article4448980.html

Hootie
12-12-2014, 02:43 PM
This apparently is not worthy of a fine.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

I suggest that every defensive player does this to Peyton Manning until it becomes worthy.
I am still incredibly pissed about that. Like, want to write Roger Goodell's dumbfuck ass some hate mail he won't read mad over that

petegz28
12-12-2014, 02:44 PM
Here's Hali's late hit.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article4448980.html

Don't pay attention to that holding call that pulled him down in the first place

Hootie
12-12-2014, 02:44 PM
Here's Hali's late hit.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article4448980.html
How in the fuck is that a penalty, or a fine? You've got to be fist fucking me.

thabear04
12-12-2014, 02:48 PM
Fucken bullshit call and bullshit fine.

And Von Miller didn't get fine. Here what i found but haven't heard nothing yet.

Linebacker*Von Miller*can expect a letter from the league this week for his hit on Chiefs quarterback*Alex Smith. Miller was called for a late-hit/roughing-the-passer penalty. He also struck Smith in the back with the crown of his helmet. Miller has been fined before, so he will likely feel the sting of the multiple-offender status. Miller was fined $25,000 last December for a helmet-to-helmet hit on*Ryan Fitzpatrick.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 02:51 PM
$16k for that.....but only $8k for fighting on the field. Makes perfect sense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brandon Williams &amp; Curtis Lofton each fined $8,268 for their actions in post-TD fight in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Panthers?src=hash">#Panthers</a>-<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash">#Saints</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543506324521496576">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Dayze
12-12-2014, 02:53 PM
This scenario here is a microcosm of why I'm down to watching 'maybe' 1 NFL game per week over the past few years (compared to shutting my life down all day Sunday, monday night, Sunday night, etc to watch ANY NFL game in years past).

This league is a fucking tragedy and a disgrace.

Mav
12-12-2014, 02:56 PM
Wow.

TeaQue
12-12-2014, 02:58 PM
What a fucking joke.

Buehler445
12-12-2014, 03:00 PM
Hey, where are all those Donk nut hugging cocksuckers at pounding whoever it was, (Tex maybe) about Donks not getting special treatment?

Fuck those fucking douchebags. Fuck the fucking NFL.

Gayer than cum on a moustache.

rtmike
12-12-2014, 03:01 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

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MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:01 PM
The "blocked into" exception only applies if the rusher has "no opportunity to avoid" the QB. Since Hali lunges at Stanton as he gets around the OT, it obviously doesn't apply.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:02 PM
Von Miller lowers his head and leaves his feet.

Hali is held and then dragged down to the ground.

Horseshit.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:03 PM
The "blocked into" exception only applies if the rusher has "no opportunity to avoid" the QB. Since Hali lunges at Stanton as he gets around the OT, it obviously doesn't apply.

Yeah...because as we all know....once that happens....you should just quit on the fucking play.

Shut the fuck up.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:04 PM
The "blocked into" exception only applies if the rusher has "no opportunity to avoid" the QB. Since Hali lunges at Stanton as he gets around the OT, it obviously doesn't apply.

He was pulled down by his jersey....JFC it's not that hard to see.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:04 PM
Yeah...because as we all know....once that happens....you should just quit on the ****ing play.

Shut the **** up.

He doesn't need to quit on the play, he just need to expect a flag and fine if he does something clearly against the rules.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:04 PM
He was pulled down by his jersey....JFC it's not that hard to see.

Doesn't matter.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:05 PM
He doesn't need to quit on the play, he just need to expect a flag and fine if he does something clearly against the rules.

I agree.....but this clearly was not illegal.....:banghead:

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:05 PM
Doesn't matter.

bull and shit

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:06 PM
He doesn't need to quit on the play, he just need to expect a flag and fine if he does something clearly against the rules.

Like lowering your head and leaving your feet AFTER the ball was released? That was worthy of a flag....but not a fine?

Discuss Thrower
12-12-2014, 03:06 PM
Doesn't matter.

Stanton had the fucking ball.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:06 PM
I agree.....but this clearly was not illegal.....:banghead:

bull and shit

HITTING PASSER’S KNEE
(5) A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him;
Note 1: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:07 PM
Stanton had the ****ing ball.

Doesn't matter.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:08 PM
Doesn't matter.

WRONG!


No defensive player who has an unrestricted path to the quarterback may hit him flagrantly in the area of the knee(s) or below when approaching in any direction.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser

Hali was not "unrestricted". Not even close!

Now apologize to everyone here

WhawhaWhat
12-12-2014, 03:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OLB Tamba Hali has been fined $16,537 for his hit on Arizona QB Drew Stanton.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/543498141970857985">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:09 PM
Doesn't matter.

You apparently are wrong, according to the rules anyway

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:10 PM
So according to the NFL Rules, Hali had to be "unrestricted" and "flagrant" in his low tackle.

He was neither.

ptlyon
12-12-2014, 03:12 PM
This is yet another reason to find a good hypnotist to make you forget football for the rest of your fucking life

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:12 PM
WRONG!



Hali was not "unrestricted". Not even close!

Now apologize to everyone here

You apparently are wrong, according to the rules anyway

So according to the NFL Rules, Hali had to be "unrestricted" and "flagrant" in his low tackle.

He was neither.

That's the "Digest of Rules" not the rulebook. From it's description:

This Digest of Rules of the National Football League has been prepared to aid players, fans, and members of the press, radio, and television media in their understanding of the game.
It is not meant to be a substitute for the official rule book. In any case of conflict between these explanations and the official rules, the rules always have precedence.
In order to make it easier to coordinate the information in this digest, the topics discussed generally follow the order of the rule book.

Now, as I already quoted from the ACTUAL RULEBOOK:

HITTING PASSER’S KNEE
(5) A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him;
Note 1: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.

http://www.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/15_Rule12_Player_Conduct.pdf

Dayze
12-12-2014, 03:13 PM
This is yet another reason to find a good hypnotist to make you forget football for the rest of your ****ing life

exactly.

what a joke.
the NFL could shrivel up and die tomorrow, and I honestly wouldn't care.


as long as CP is still around, of course

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 03:13 PM
The "blocked into" exception only applies if the rusher has "no opportunity to avoid" the QB. Since Hali lunges at Stanton as he gets around the OT, it obviously doesn't apply.

What do you do, just lurk around until someone says something bad about your dirty team? You've got the johnny on the spot routine down pat anytime those cheaters come up around here.

You're pathetic, almost as bad as your cheating, dirty team.

crazycoffey
12-12-2014, 03:14 PM
You could see the front of Hali's jersey being pulled down toward the ground, Hali should send the LT the bill and a dick pic

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:14 PM
exactly.

what a joke.
the NFL could shrivel up and die tomorrow, and I honestly wouldn't care.


as long as CP is still around, of course

I've about had it with it as well.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:14 PM
That's the "Digest of Rules" not the rulebook. From it's description:



Now, as I already quoted from the ACTUAL RULEBOOK:

HITTING PASSER’S KNEE
(5) A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him;
Note 1: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.

http://www.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/15_Rule12_Player_Conduct.pdf

So then basically all an OT has to do is grab the defender and pull him to the ground.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:15 PM
So then basically all an OT has to do is grab the defender and pull him to the ground.

He is full of shit and he knows it. We see QB's get hit low all the time and not get flagged unless as I posted they were "unrestricted" or "flagrant"

Kidd Lex
12-12-2014, 03:16 PM
This scenario here is a microcosm of why I'm down to watching 'maybe' 1 NFL game per week over the past few years (compared to shutting my life down all day Sunday, monday night, Sunday night, etc to watch ANY NFL game in years past).

This league is a fucking tragedy and a disgrace.

This

crazycoffey
12-12-2014, 03:18 PM
Von Miller lowers his head and leaves his feet.

Hali is held and then dragged down to the ground.

Horseshit.

It would be nice if intent made any difference, amiright?

ClevelandBronco
12-12-2014, 03:18 PM
Have a Hali, Jali Christmas...

ChiefRocka
12-12-2014, 03:19 PM
Hypothetical: If a DE gets tripped up and is lying on the ground, can he not reach his arms out to try and tackle the QB.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:20 PM
Hypothetical: If a DE gets tripped up and is lying on the ground, can he not reach his arms out to try and tackle the QB.

Yes he can. No hypo about it. We see this all the time.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:21 PM
Hypothetical: If a DE gets tripped up and is lying on the ground, can he not reach his arms out to try and tackle the QB.

"Forcibly"

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:22 PM
He is full of shit and he knows it. We see QB's get hit low all the time and not get flagged unless as I posted they were "unrestricted" or "flagrant"

Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

TEX
12-12-2014, 03:23 PM
Von Miller lowers his head and leaves his feet.

Hali is held and then dragged down to the ground.

Horseshit.

Yet TYPICAL. One plays for a Goddell favorite in Denver. One plays for KC...

Dayze
12-12-2014, 03:24 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

I think people aren't really upset with the flag; they're upset that this hit from Hali warranted a fine. If Hali's was flagrant and garnered a fine......what about Von's?




yeah.

BigMeatballDave
12-12-2014, 03:24 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

So is the amount of cocks entering your ass.

TEX
12-12-2014, 03:24 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

You mean like Miller's on Smith?

warrior
12-12-2014, 03:25 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.




You're full of shit Denver f**king scum go to your own board.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:25 PM
I think people aren't really upset with the flag; they're upset that this hit from Hali warranted a fine. If Hali's was flagrant and garnered a fine......what about Von's?




yeah.

I'm on record here as being very surprised that Von was not fined.

warrior
12-12-2014, 03:26 PM
So is the amount of cocks entering your ass.





He should be fined :D

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:26 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

You're a fucking idiot. There is no evidence at all that he intentionally went low. Please just STFU already.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:28 PM
You're a ****ing idiot. There is no evidence at all that he intentionally went low. Please just STFU already.

Doesn't matter.

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 03:28 PM
Hali's low hit was pretty flagrant.

**** you, why anyone puts up with your trolling is mystery.

You're nothing more than a knowmo that loves math... **** you.

TimBone
12-12-2014, 03:28 PM
You could see the front of Hali's jersey being pulled down toward the ground, Hali should send the LT the bill and a dick pic
ROFL

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:29 PM
Doesn't matter.

fla·grant
ˈflāɡrənt/
adjective
adjective: flagrant

(of something considered wrong or immoral) conspicuously or obviously offensive.
"his flagrant bad taste"
synonyms: blatant, glaring, obvious, overt, conspicuous, barefaced, shameless, brazen, undisguised, unconcealed; More


You know, like the Miller hit and unlike the Hali hit????

Just fucking stop.....

ClevelandBronco
12-12-2014, 03:30 PM
I think people aren't really upset with the flag; they're upset that this hit from Hali warranted a fine. If Hali's was flagrant and garnered a fine......what about Von's?









yeah.


Well, you have to understand that Miller was severely disadvantaged on that play. He couldn't see that the ball was long gone because his head was down so he could use his helmet as a weapon.

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:30 PM
Well, you have to understand that Miller was severely disadvantaged on that play. He couldn't see that the ball was long gone because his head was down so he could use his helmet as a weapon.

LMAO

Dayze
12-12-2014, 03:31 PM
Well, you have to understand that Miller was severely disadvantaged on that play. He couldn't see that the ball was long gone because his head was down so he could use his helmet as a weapon.

LMAO

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:32 PM
What's wrong with this picture?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> LB Clay Matthews was fined $10,000 for a uniform violation (wearing white cleats). Oof.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543516915168448515">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Reggie Bush not fined for his “I can’t breathe” warmup shirt. <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo">@NFLfootballinfo</a>: “We are in constant communication about uniform policies”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543507505721376768">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:32 PM
You know, like the Miller hit and unlike the Hali hit????

Just ****ing stop.....

"Flagrant" was something you made up that I was responding to. It's not actually in the rule (which I've posted twice now) anywhere. So yeah... Doesn't matter.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2014, 03:33 PM
was Von Miller fined for his hit on Alex?
I can't remember...

this

complete bullshit

Rooster
12-12-2014, 03:33 PM
This scenario here is a microcosm of why I'm down to watching 'maybe' 1 NFL game per week over the past few years (compared to shutting my life down all day Sunday, monday night, Sunday night, etc to watch ANY NFL game in years past).

This league is a ****ing tragedy and a disgrace.

This.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2014, 03:34 PM
What's wrong with this picture?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> LB Clay Matthews was fined $10,000 for a uniform violation (wearing white cleats). Oof.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543516915168448515">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Reggie Bush not fined for his “I can’t breathe” warmup shirt. <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo">@NFLfootballinfo</a>: “We are in constant communication about uniform policies”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543507505721376768">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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You expected the NFL to fine a player about the about standing against police brutality right now? :spock:

petegz28
12-12-2014, 03:34 PM
"Flagrant" was something you made up that I was responding to. It's not actually in the rule (which I've posted twice now) anywhere. So yeah... Doesn't matter.

No, you dick faced, liar. I did not make up "flagrant". It's on the NFL site. That's "THEIR" word, dumb ass.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:35 PM
You expected the NFL to fine a player about the about standing against police brutality right now? :spock:

Then don't fine a player at the same time for wearing white fucking cleats. Either enforce the policy or don't.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2014, 03:37 PM
Then don't fine a player at the same time for wearing white fucking cleats. Either enforce the policy or don't.
you really don't see the difference? or just want to cry?

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:38 PM
No, you dick faced, liar. I did not make up "flagrant". It's on the NFL site. That's "THEIR" word, dumb ass.

Not in the rulebook, which the last time I checked, was the only thing that mattered.

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:40 PM
you really don't see the difference? or just want to cry?

One's a major topic in the news and one isn't. Both still violate a rule agreed upon by the NFL and NFLPA.

TimBone
12-12-2014, 03:43 PM
Why couldn't Reggie breathe?

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 03:46 PM
What do you do, just lurk around until someone says something bad about your dirty team? You've got the johnny on the spot routine down pat anytime those cheaters come up around here.

You're pathetic, almost as bad as your cheating, dirty team.

**** you, why anyone puts up with your trolling is mystery.

You're nothing more than a knowmo that loves math... **** you.

Thanks, I do love math!

Mr. Laz
12-12-2014, 03:46 PM
One's a major topic in the news and one isn't. Both still violate a rule agreed upon by the NFL and NFLPA.
One is violating the dress code to make a social/political statement.
the other is just not caring enough to follow the dress code


You're smart enough to know this so you just wanted to cry



carry on then

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:47 PM
One is violating the dress code to make a social/political statement.
the other is just not caring enough to follow the dress code


You're smart enough to know this so you just wanted to cry



carry on then

So you agree that they're both violations.

A violation is a violation....is a violation.

notorious
12-12-2014, 03:48 PM
Yet another notch of bias in the league.

TimBone
12-12-2014, 03:50 PM
One is violating the dress code to make a social/political statement.
the other is just not caring enough to follow the dress code


You're smart enough to know this so you just wanted to cry



carry on then
Not that I give a single fuck about the dress code policy, but Pestilence is absolutely right. Both are violations, both should be fined. I've seen them fine guys for breaking the dress code to raise awareness for a cause or disease. The guys happily paid the fine. He should have been fined.

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 03:50 PM
I'm inclined to forgive the "I cant breathe" shirts, theres something there worth talking about IMO... its the continued use of "hands up" thats really wearing thin.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2014, 03:53 PM
I'm inclined to forgive the "I cant breathe" shirts, theres something there worth talking about IMO... its the continued use of "hands up" thats really wearing thin.
a business who's employees are 60% black


complete and utter shitstorm if they fine them


the people complaining about the nfl not fining them for the t-shirts would be screaming bloody murder if they had fine them

some people are going to bitch about the NFL no matter what

The Franchise
12-12-2014, 03:56 PM
a business who's employees are 60% black


complete and utter shitstorm if they fine them


the people complaining about the nfl not fining them for the t-shirts would be screaming bloody murder if they had fine them

some people are going to bitch about the NFL no matter what

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/9819333/green-shoes-cost-brandon-marshall-chicago-bears-10500

The NFL is expected to fine Marshall $5,250 this week for violating the league's uniform rules by wearing green shoes in last Thursday night's game against the New York Giants, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, and the receiver has vowed to match the NFL's fine with a donation to charity.

During a month in which many NFL players are wearing pink shoes, gloves and wristbands to support breast cancer awareness, Marshall wore green in support of his own foundation, which focuses on mental illness.

Marshall was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in 2010.

TimBone
12-12-2014, 04:01 PM
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/9819333/green-shoes-cost-brandon-marshall-chicago-bears-10500

The NFL is expected to fine Marshall $5,250 this week for violating the league's uniform rules by wearing green shoes in last Thursday night's game against the New York Giants, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, and the receiver has vowed to match the NFL's fine with a donation to charity.

During a month in which many NFL players are wearing pink shoes, gloves and wristbands to support breast cancer awareness, Marshall wore green in support of his own foundation, which focuses on mental illness.

Marshall was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in 2010.
This is one of the instances to which I was referring.

jonzie04
12-12-2014, 04:07 PM
Was that the hit where he came in low because the tackle was pushing him to the ground?

Wow. That was a bs call. I dont even know how they could slap him with a fine. If anything they should have flagged the tackle for pushing hali in the back

kcfanXIII
12-12-2014, 04:10 PM
This apparently is not worthy of a fine.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

I suggest that every defensive player does this to Peyton Manning until it becomes worthy.

So the first time?

Pasta Little Brioni
12-12-2014, 04:11 PM
Doesn't matter.

You are a complete piece of shit....bigger than Von

jonzie04
12-12-2014, 04:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/9819333/green-shoes-cost-brandon-marshall-chicago-bears-10500

The NFL is expected to fine Marshall $5,250 this week for violating the league's uniform rules by wearing green shoes in last Thursday night's game against the New York Giants, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, and the receiver has vowed to match the NFL's fine with a donation to charity.

During a month in which many NFL players are wearing pink shoes, gloves and wristbands to support breast cancer awareness, Marshall wore green in support of his own foundation, which focuses on mental illness.

Marshall was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder in 2010.

Hes been doing that for a while now. Ive got a lot of respect for marshall and his cause.

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 04:15 PM
a business who's employees are 60% black


complete and utter shitstorm if they fine them


the people complaining about the nfl not fining them for the t-shirts would be screaming bloody murder if they had fine them

some people are going to bitch about the NFL no matter what

Its tricky, but I'm just not a huge fan of NFL teams making political statements... I do believe that the owner, players and overall team represent their entire city/fanbase and not just one particular segment representing one particular view.

The people that dont agree with their statements are also atleast partly responsible for paying their salaries through ticket sales, tv viewership, merchandise, stadium taxes etc. So it just doesnt seem right for players to make these kind of statements, even if I happen to agree with atleast one of them.

They're able to go protest and support a given cause in any number of ways when not in uniform, thats their right as Americans... but when you represent an entity thats beholden to the general public, I dont think you should have those same rights. Kinda like the military, go say what you want but you better not do it in uniform.

Goodell is a coward, easily the worst commish of my lifetime... and yeah, really ever.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2014, 04:15 PM
No problem with the fine. He violated the rule by going below the knee.


But to not fine or flag Miller was criminal.

Dayze
12-12-2014, 04:15 PM
I'm sure if Nike were to give the NFL $100M and become their official greens shoe, the NFL would be all over that.

kcfanXIII
12-12-2014, 04:17 PM
The "blocked into" exception only applies if the rusher has "no opportunity to avoid" the QB. Since Hali lunges at Stanton as he gets around the OT, it obviously doesn't apply.

You obviously like donkey dick in your mouth. you try stopping when your momentum is moving you forward and down. Fuck you in your donkey dick ripped asshole.

Baby Lee
12-12-2014, 04:26 PM
What's wrong with this picture?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> LB Clay Matthews was fined $10,000 for a uniform violation (wearing white cleats). Oof.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543516915168448515">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Reggie Bush not fined for his “I can’t breathe” warmup shirt. <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLfootballinfo">@NFLfootballinfo</a>: “We are in constant communication about uniform policies”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/543507505721376768">December 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Also known as 'nice stadium you got there, would hate for it to turn into a Quick Trip.'

Reerun_KC
12-12-2014, 04:31 PM
Just imagine if Miller would of taken Smith out with an injury.

CP could of exhaled in relief.

Chief Roundup
12-12-2014, 04:31 PM
Tamba should send his ex-teammate a sarcastic "Thank You" note.

rico
12-12-2014, 04:32 PM
Holy shit, this is fucking ridiculous.

TEX
12-12-2014, 04:33 PM
This apparently is not worthy of a fine.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

I suggest that every defensive player does this to Peyton Manning until it becomes worthy.


THAT'S the PROBLEM I have with the CHIEF PLAYERS. Had I been one of them, I'd have returned the favor to Manning the FIRST CHANCE I HAD. Fine & suspension be damned!

lcarus
12-12-2014, 04:37 PM
I nearly threw a shoe at my tv when Hali got penalized for that. He just tackled him around the legs. Sure it was nearly a nasty injury, but for fucks sake this is football. It's a physical sport where fast, strong men tackle a ball carrier as quickly as they can. Injuries are gonna happen.

On top of that, he was clearly brought down by the LT...

digger
12-12-2014, 04:38 PM
Because Chiefs.

TEX
12-12-2014, 04:39 PM
Hey, where are all those Donk nut hugging one who sucks the peniss at pounding whoever it was, (Tex maybe) about Donks not getting special treatment?

**** those ****ing douchebags. **** the ****ing NFL.

Gayer than cum on a moustache.

ROFL They're all ignorant dipshits. My point was that it's NOT the # of penalties, it's the TYPE and especially the ones NOT called. This indeed proves it my point. Deal is it sure didn't take long...;)

Easy 6
12-12-2014, 04:52 PM
You just cant tell me ref 129 didnt see that, if Clark Hunts foot isnt 9 inches deep up Goodells ass right now then shame on him, maybe he should relinquish his title to a cousin or something.

stevieray
12-12-2014, 04:53 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-66hJ5uKuW8Q/VHvoufITuII/AAAAAAAAvpE/q4E2mRTWCtY/s1600/smith.gif

<iframe src="http://gfycat.com/ifr/ImaginativeWellwornBunting" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" width="628" height="344" style="-webkit-backface-visibility: hidden;-webkit-transform: scale(1);" ></iframe>

pulled down by his jersey..NFL is a joke...can't believe how much money I've given this biased, preferential treatment league.

>< this close to blowing it completely off.

stevieray
12-12-2014, 04:56 PM
Doesn't matter.

you know the difference between donks and Chiefs fans...WE DON"T GO TO YOUR MESSAGE BOARDS..but here you are.


Donks and their fans can **** right off and die.

Deberg_1990
12-12-2014, 04:57 PM
After watching the replay, I'm not really sure what Hali is supposed to do to not go low?


Just stop, straighten himself out and go higher? Or just give up on the play?

NFL has completely neutered defensive football.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 05:00 PM
No problem with the fine. He violated the rule by going below the knee.


But to not fine or flag Miller was criminal.

You just cant tell me ref 129 didnt see that, if Clark Hunts foot isnt 9 inches deep up Goodells ass right now then shame on him, maybe he should relinquish his title to a cousin or something.

?

You guys know that Von was flagged for that hit, right?

Strongside
12-12-2014, 05:04 PM
NFL is for the children.

Earthling
12-12-2014, 05:07 PM
Yeah, total BS call and insult to injury as far as the fine goes.

Snapplez
12-12-2014, 05:27 PM
?

You guys know that Von was flagged for that hit, right?

Flag != Fine

But I dunno what they're talkin about. He was clearly flagged

stonedstooge
12-12-2014, 05:31 PM
Fucking Von Miller nails Smith in the back while Alex is admiring that long bomb pass he threw. Bastard

lcarus
12-12-2014, 05:34 PM
After watching the replay, I'm not really sure what Hali is supposed to do to not go low?


Just stop, straighten himself out and go higher? Or just give up on the play?

NFL has completely neutered defensive football.

Yeah I agree wholeheartedly. Arguing whether it was against the rules or not doesn't mean shit to me, because I hate the rule to begin with. It needs to be changed.

cdcox
12-12-2014, 05:38 PM
This is easily understood by considering the value of the 2 QBs involved.

TimBone
12-12-2014, 05:42 PM
I AM OUTRAGED.

Nah, not really. I find it hard to care about any of it. Smiths team mates obviously didn't have a big problem with the hit. Why should we? As for Tamba's hit....anything going low is going to be called and fined after the Bradyless season.

007
12-12-2014, 06:28 PM
Thats the NFL for ya.

Marcellus
12-12-2014, 06:28 PM
I am beyond irritated at this BS.

DTHOF
12-12-2014, 06:54 PM
The Hali story says it was a mandatory fine for roughing the passer. If it is mandatory why didn't Miller gets fined. That is Donking Amazing!?!?!?

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2014, 08:29 PM
I

am


shocked.....


at this....


turn...


of events.

penguinz
12-12-2014, 08:33 PM
THAT'S the PROBLEM I have with the CHIEF PLAYERS. Had I been one of them, I'd have returned the favor to Manning the FIRST CHANCE I HAD. Fine & suspension be damned!

No you wouldn't.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2014, 08:40 PM
No you wouldn't.

I would.

I'm a hateful motherfucker like that.

MagicHef
12-12-2014, 08:43 PM
The Hali story says it was a mandatory fine for roughing the passer. If it is mandatory why didn't Miller gets fined. That is Donking Amazing!?!?!?

Mandatory minimum, not mandatory fine.

penguinz
12-12-2014, 08:45 PM
I would.

I'm a hateful motherfucker like that.

Easy to say on the internet.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-12-2014, 08:47 PM
Easy to say on the internet.

PUT ME ON THE FIELD, MANG!:D

Dave Lane
12-13-2014, 08:48 AM
How in the fuck is that a penalty, or a fine? You've got to be fist fucking me.

Also Friday, Arizona defensive end Tommy Kelly was fined $16,537 for a hit on Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith during Sunday’s game.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article4448980.html#storylink=cpy

Dave Lane
12-13-2014, 08:50 AM
The Hali story says it was a mandatory fine for roughing the passer. If it is mandatory why didn't Miller gets fined. That is Donking Amazing!?!?!?

Von Miller did not get flagged. I'm not sure how he could have stopped but he appeared to launch after the ball came out.

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 08:53 AM
Mandatory minimum, not mandatory fine.

If there is a mandatory minimum fine for roughing the passer as the article states, then why wasn't Miller fined? Was he not flagged for roughing the passer?

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 08:54 AM
Von Miller did not get flagged. I'm not sure how he could have stopped but he appeared to launch after the ball came out.

Miller was flagged.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 09:16 AM
Like Denver and the pick plays they never get called on because they've renamed them to a "rub route", the NFL will keep doing this bullshit until our owner does something about it. And attending the next owner's meeting and in private telling them he doesn't agree with the call is useless. At this point he needs to say something that brings attention to the situation. Further he needs to allow the team to release, or leak, film of all the calls the went differently, and also play reruns of the hold/drag-down that the NFL is totally refusing to see as being part of what happened on that play, and dare the league to say shit about it.

Hell, at this point he need to have the hot water and air conditioning/heating shut off in the officials locker room. It's not like they can fuck this team any more than they've shown they're willing to do EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE TAPE TO PROVE THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE HIT MADE THE OUTCOME ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID. So I don't want to hear any shit about how they could make it worse; if they could I'm not sure it'd be measurable.

I've started to believe the league does have something against the Hunts, and the Hunts might be refusing to sell to appease the league (yes, I have my tinfoil hat on!!!), but it's time for the Hunts to challenge the league with some of this shit and expose what ever is really going on. Perhaps the league wants the Hunts to sell to "football" people or something, but the Hunts like the easy millions owning a team brings in (for doing nothing at all really).

I don't know, but Hunt's silence on this is as maddening, if not more maddening, than the call itself. I get Andy not saying anything, well not really (!!!), but Hunt needs to hold a presser and let it be known that it ends right now. From missed holding calls, to bullshit calls like post-play OPIs, to bullshit "blind" rulings like this one; he's going to light-up the airwaves with the NFL's mistakes. He needs to let them know he doesn't care about their friendship, and he'll blow it all up if they don't change their ways.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 09:19 AM
When you are shitty, you deserve to be treated shittily.

Chiefs deserve no breaks, and ALL struggle.

They gave up long before this call, and they roll over like soft bitches to Denver anyway.

Eat your shit-stew. Eat it.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 09:25 AM
When you are shitty, you deserve to be treated shittily.

Chiefs deserve no breaks, and ALL struggle.

They gave up long before this call, and they roll over like soft bitches to Denver anyway.

Eat your shit-stew. Eat it.

So is the league teaching them a lesson? Is the league somehow helping them by doing this?

I'd love your take on how sucking (and they do suck) leads to the league fucking you at almost every turn.

Buehler445
12-13-2014, 10:07 AM
Like Denver and the pick plays they never get called on because they've renamed them to a "rub route", the NFL will keep doing this bullshit until our owner does something about it. And attending the next owner's meeting and in private telling them he doesn't agree with the call is useless. At this point he needs to say something that brings attention to the situation. Further he needs to allow the team to release, or leak, film of all the calls the went differently, and also play reruns of the hold/drag-down that the NFL is totally refusing to see as being part of what happened on that play, and dare the league to say shit about it.

Hell, at this point he need to have the hot water and air conditioning/heating shut off in the officials locker room. It's not like they can fuck this team any more than they've shown they're willing to do EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE TAPE TO PROVE THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE HIT MADE THE OUTCOME ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID. So I don't want to hear any shit about how they could make it worse; if they could I'm not sure it'd be measurable.

I've started to believe the league does have something against the Hunts, and the Hunts might be refusing to sell to appease the league (yes, I have my tinfoil hat on!!!), but it's time for the Hunts to challenge the league with some of this shit and expose what ever is really going on. Perhaps the league wants the Hunts to sell to "football" people or something, but the Hunts like the easy millions owning a team brings in (for doing nothing at all really).

I don't know, but Hunt's silence on this is as maddening, if not more maddening, than the call itself. I get Andy not saying anything, well not really (!!!), but Hunt needs to hold a presser and let it be known that it ends right now. From missed holding calls, to bullshit calls like post-play OPIs, to bullshit "blind" rulings like this one; he's going to light-up the airwaves with the NFL's mistakes. He needs to let them know he doesn't care about their friendship, and he'll blow it all up if they don't change their ways.

On the Miller hit in Arrowhead, I don't have a problem with the officials. They flagged it. There isn't much else they could have done other than eject that pole smoking sack of Donk shit.

The Arizona one is bad, but I could potentially see throwing the flag. Don't like it, but I buy the justification.

The real issue is the fucking fines. Not that the money matters to Hali, but it is the message it sends. And I agree with the part about Hunt hammering Goodell about it. Fuck Goodell. He works for Hunt. Hunt should fire both barrels at that cocksucker.

BigMeatballDave
12-13-2014, 10:38 AM
They don't fine Miller, but they fine Kelce?

LMAO Nice work, NFL.

Marcellus
12-13-2014, 10:49 AM
When you are shitty, you deserve to be treated shittily.

Perfectly explains how you are treated here and in life.

GloucesterChief
12-13-2014, 11:02 AM
At these times I wish Mark Cuban was the Chiefs owner. He has so much money that getting fined for calling out the league for their crap officiating in public is like a drop in the bucket.

MagicHef
12-13-2014, 12:48 PM
If there is a mandatory minimum fine for roughing the passer as the article states, then why wasn't Miller fined? Was he not flagged for roughing the passer?

Whether or not someone gets fined a league decision. Once they decide to fine someone, the amount is decided by the CBA.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 12:50 PM
So is the league teaching them a lesson? Is the league somehow helping them by doing this?

I'd love your take on how sucking (and they do suck) leads to the league fucking you at almost every turn.

To the victor go the spoils. When Lil' Chiefy can offer the NFL something besides John Gruden yapping his jaws about parking lot BBQ, then they may receive the blessings.

Perfectly explains how you are treated here and in life.

LMAO

Yes, because Chiefs football is life. You are such a maroon. Your pain; I find it pleasing. This has been a long time coming.

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 01:05 PM
Whether or not someone gets fined a league decision. Once they decide to fine someone, the amount is decided by the CBA.

Roughing the passer is roughing the passer. For the league to not fine Miller, that means the league had to review Miller's hit on Alex Smith and decide that there shouldn't have been a flag on the play. If that is the case, then anyone associated with the review of Miller's hit should be fired.

ClevelandBronco
12-13-2014, 01:09 PM
Like Denver and the pick plays they never get called on because they've renamed them to a "rub route", the NFL will keep doing this bullshit until our owner does something about it. And attending the next owner's meeting and in private telling them he doesn't agree with the call is useless. At this point he needs to say something that brings attention to the situation. Further he needs to allow the team to release, or leak, film of all the calls the went differently, and also play reruns of the hold/drag-down that the NFL is totally refusing to see as being part of what happened on that play, and dare the league to say shit about it.

Hell, at this point he need to have the hot water and air conditioning/heating shut off in the officials locker room. It's not like they can fuck this team any more than they've shown they're willing to do EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE THE TAPE TO PROVE THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE HIT MADE THE OUTCOME ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID. So I don't want to hear any shit about how they could make it worse; if they could I'm not sure it'd be measurable.

I've started to believe the league does have something against the Hunts, and the Hunts might be refusing to sell to appease the league (yes, I have my tinfoil hat on!!!), but it's time for the Hunts to challenge the league with some of this shit and expose what ever is really going on. Perhaps the league wants the Hunts to sell to "football" people or something, but the Hunts like the easy millions owning a team brings in (for doing nothing at all really).

I don't know, but Hunt's silence on this is as maddening, if not more maddening, than the call itself. I get Andy not saying anything, well not really (!!!), but Hunt needs to hold a presser and let it be known that it ends right now. From missed holding calls, to bullshit calls like post-play OPIs, to bullshit "blind" rulings like this one; he's going to light-up the airwaves with the NFL's mistakes. He needs to let them know he doesn't care about their friendship, and he'll blow it all up if they don't change their ways.


You're very passionate and loyal. Those are admirable qualities when they're focused on things that matter.

The wealthy family that owns the factory that manufactures the product to which you've chosen to devote yourself thanks you.

Take a deep breath every once in a while, my friend.

MagicHef
12-13-2014, 01:13 PM
Roughing the passer is roughing the passer. For the league to not fine Miller, that means the league had to review Miller's hit on Alex Smith and decide that there shouldn't have been a flag on the play. If that is the case, then anyone associated with the review of Miller's hit should be fired.

Basically none of this is true. Mauga and Bailey both have been flagged for roughing the passer, and neither was fined.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 01:23 PM
To the victor go the spoils. When Lil' Chiefy can offer the NFL something besides John Gruden yapping his jaws about parking lot BBQ, then they may receive the blessings.



LMAO

Yes, because Chiefs football is life. You are such a maroon. Your pain; I find it pleasing. This has been a long time coming.

I don't disagree, but I think it's deeper than that. It's one thing to have the league shit on you, but since 1969 "circumstances" have resulted in no SB play for the Chiefs. At this point I think there's something going on between the league and the Chiefs organization, and specifically the Hunt family.

I'll say again, I think the league might prefer that the sell the team so a more competent group can be in ultimate command. While Clark has added some focus to the team let's face it, this isn't a big part of his life, nor his passion. He does just enough to get a few lawyers to agree that, technically, he's doing something more than nothing to turn the club around (but not as much as anybody with some passion would do, but that doesn't matter). And Clark knows he doesn't even have to do that to clear those many millions of free money, he seems to do it just to save a little face.

Much like term limits and seniority for committee chairmanships would help fix our congress, a test to be a parent would help the planet, so too would some form of post-season success, over some period of time, be required for an owner to not have to sell. At a minimum your team should be required to win a post-season game every 7 years (two rebuilding cycles IN A SALARY CAP SPORT) for the owner to not be forced to sell after being given the opportunity to buy his own team at the current market price (giving any proceeds to NFL charities). Something to force owners to care enough to demand their subordinates to piece together success.

The problem in all of that, like congress doing the right things, you can't get them to vote themselves a harder life, or to refuse a pay raise!

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 01:30 PM
I don't disagree, but I think it's deeper than that. It's one thing to have the league shit on you, but since 1969 "circumstances" have resulted in no SB play for the Chiefs. At this point I think there's something going on between the league and the Chiefs organization, and specifically the Hunt family.

I'll say again, I think the league might prefer that the sell the team so a more competent group can be in ultimate command. While Clark has added some focus to the team let's face it, this isn't a big part of his life, nor his passion. He does just enough to get a few lawyers to agree that, technically, he's doing something more than nothing to turn the club around (but not as much as anybody with some passion would do, but that doesn't matter). And Clark knows he doesn't even have to do that to clear those many millions of free money, he seems to do it just to save a little face.

Much like term limits and seniority for committee chairmanships would help fix our congress, a test to be a parent would help the planet, so too would some form of post-season success, over some period of time, be required for an owner to not have to sell. At a minimum your team should be required to win a post-season game every 7 years (two rebuilding cycles IN A SALARY CAP SPORT) for the owner to not be forced to sell after being given the opportunity to buy his own team at the current market price (giving any proceeds to NFL charities). Something to force owners to care enough to demand their subordinates to piece together success.

The problem in all of that, like congress doing the right things, you can't get them to vote themselves a harder life, or to refuse a pay raise!

Go look at how many teams haven't won a playoff game in any 7 year span since the salary cap was instituted, and then you'll realize how stupid your idea is.

Pasta Little Brioni
12-13-2014, 01:33 PM
This is easily understood by considering the value of the 2 QBs involved.

That's exactly why the league sucks balls right now. Guys like Peyton have been pampered their whole life. Which is why he cries like a girl any time Denver is flagged.

Bob Dole
12-13-2014, 01:34 PM
Roughing the passer is roughing the passer.

Too bad Hali's call wasn't. And any fucking moron in the league office should be able to see that on the replay.

MagicHef
12-13-2014, 01:39 PM
Too bad Hali's call wasn't. And any fucking moron in the league office should be able to see that on the replay.

HITTING PASSER’S KNEE
(5) A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him;
Note 1: A defender cannot initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit the passer in the knee area or below, even if he is being contacted by another player.

Given the rule (quoted for you), how can you say it isn't Roughing the Passer?

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 01:43 PM
You're very passionate and loyal. Those are admirable qualities when they're focused on things that matter.

The wealthy family that owns the factory that manufactures the product to which you've chosen to devote yourself thanks you.

Take a deep breath every once in a while, my friend.

I breath well, I just call-out the Hunt family and hold few punches because "they provide us a team." I know I'm not heard by anybody who matters, but I hope one day I might be. That being said, I'm pretty sure they can't resist reading and listening to what's being said about them. They may laugh (all the way to the bank) but I have a feeling they know they're continually being called-out as corporate whores and failures as owners when it comes to on-field success. I feel bad that the younger Hunts are prolly the first to read it, but that's up to the Hunts to help them understand. sooner or later one of their kids is going to ask them why their team hasn't done anything since 1969. That might be the day the kids will be introduced to little white lies, deception, and watching mommy and daddy change the conversation and have them focus on anything but the teams football success. I can hear it now:

"Yes little Clarkie, those players have not brought home a SB trophies for you to play with, but we've given some cans of soup to some hungry people, and we have a super nice house-sized apartment inside of Arrowhead for you to play in. And little Clarkie, we clear something like $60,000,000 - heck I don't even know how much - and don't have to do anything to get it. NOTHING. And the hot lady who you call mommy, well she's prolly here because of all this! So don't you believe those mean people when they say we suck at owning, we're RICH, and that's all that matters in life - money and hot chicks... And one day little Clarkie, this will all be yours, with, or without a playoff win."

They truly are a crap family, even if they look pretty, have some charities, and talk nice. In the end, from Clark, to his wife, to his kids and their aunts and uncles, that family can't produce a successful football product. And their public silence is what makes them all business whores. For some money, they let themselves get fucked.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 01:51 PM
Go look at how many teams haven't won a playoff game in any 7 year span since the salary cap was instituted, and then you'll realize how stupid your idea is.

Well make it 10 then! All I know is 45 is too much, and you're not offering anything substantive to force owners to drive their teams to success. Evidently team and family pride aren't enough.

As for you calling it stupid, what's stupid is the part you missed where I said they could keep the team as they'd be the first afforded to buy it at market price. After that they can take their chances of bidding for the team if the team isn't worth the market price, or they think they can out-bid other bidders and that would be under the listed market price.

So why don't you piss off until you come up with something more than being a Hunt dick sucker and having no better ideas to suggest.

Or might you be saying 45 years is about right?

ClevelandBronco
12-13-2014, 02:01 PM
I breath well, I just call-out the Hunt family and hold few punches because "they provide us a team." I know I'm not heard by anybody who matters, but I hope one day I might be. That being said, I'm pretty sure they can't resist reading and listening to what's being said about them. They may laugh (all the way to the bank) but I have a feeling they know they're continually being called-out as corporate whores and failures as owners when it comes to on-field success. I feel bad that the younger Hunts are prolly the first to read it, but that's up to the Hunts to help them understand. sooner or later one of their kids is going to ask them why their team hasn't done anything since 1969. That might be the day the kids will be introduced to little white lies, deception, and watching mommy and daddy change the conversation and have them focus on anything but the teams football success. I can hear it now:

"Yes little Clarkie, those players have not brought home a SB trophies for you to play with, but we've given some cans of soup to some hungry people, and we have a super nice house-sized apartment inside of Arrowhead for you to play in. And little Clarkie, we clear something like $60,000,000 - heck I don't even know how much - and don't have to do anything to get it. NOTHING. And the hot lady who you call mommy, well she's prolly here because of all this! So don't you believe those mean people when they say we suck at owning, we're RICH, and that's all that matters in life - money and hot chicks... And one day little Clarkie, this will all be yours, with, or without a playoff win."

They truly are a crap family, even if they look pretty, have some charities, and talk nice. In the end, from Clark, to his wife, to his kids and their aunts and uncles, that family can't produce a successful football product. And their public silence is what makes them all business whores. For some money, they let themselves get fucked.


Have you considered perhaps adopting a dog from a shelter?

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 02:06 PM
Have you considered perhaps adopting a dog from a shelter?
Yes. A long time ago. Best dog for miles around too. Everybody wants to know how to get their dogs to be as awesome. I think it boils down to her having an owner who cares. Unlike the Chiefs!!!!!!

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ClevelandBronco
12-13-2014, 02:13 PM
Yes. A long time ago. Best dog for miles around too. Everybody wants to know how to get their dogs to be as awesome. I think it boils down to her having an owner who cares. Unlike the Chiefs!!!!!!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/13/9a5ad8e865f314ab71f4af02ccecc29d.jpg

Now that's passion and loyalty well spent. And those things will be returned to you even more abundantly. Well done, sir.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 02:16 PM
Now that's passion and loyalty well spent. And those things will be returned to you even more abundantly. Well done, sir.
Thank you fine Sir...

TEX
12-13-2014, 02:18 PM
Given the rule (quoted for you), how can you say it isn't Roughing the Passer?

Because he doesn't speak IDIOT like you? :shrug:

Chief Roundup
12-13-2014, 02:23 PM
Come on guys, you all know that what Hali did has been a foul ever since Bernard Pollard got Brady below the knees costing Brady the remainder of that season.
It is most definitely a foul. Yes there should have been a holding call, but that does not change the fact that what Hali did was a foul.
If you watch that video you will see Hali lunge at Stanton using his feet and ankles after he had cleared the LT and was about a foot off of the ground. Hali should have fell to the ground and gotten up and then proceeded with the pass rush. I know it would have been over by then but that is not the point it is what Hali should/could have done in that position.
Yes I believe Von Miller should have been fined if not more for his hit on Smith. That is and has to be treated as a separate issue.

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 02:26 PM
Well make it 10 then! All I know is 45 is too much, and you're not offering anything substantive to force owners to drive their teams to success. Evidently team and family pride aren't enough.

As for you calling it stupid, what's stupid is the part you missed where I said they could keep the team as they'd be the first afforded to buy it at market price. After that they can take their chances of bidding for the team if the team isn't worth the market price, or they think they can out-bid other bidders and that would be under the listed market price.

So why don't you piss off until you come up with something more than being a Hunt dick sucker and having no better ideas to suggest.

Or might you be saying 45 years is about right?

All you have for your "the Hunts don't care" argument is their failure to find a franchise QB in the draft. Since Clark has taken over, they've went out and spent the money to acquire highly sought after coaches and GMs. They've given large contracts to their star players.

Your posts sound like they were written by a teenage girl who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. Try not to sprain your ankle while you're stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 02:45 PM
All you have for your "the Hunts don't care" argument is their failure to find a franchise QB in the draft. Since Clark has taken over, they've went out and spent the money to acquire highly sought after coaches and GMs. They've given large contracts to their star players.

Your posts sound like they were written by a teenage girl who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. Try not to sprain your ankle while you're stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum.

And your choking on the head Hunt's dick again. My ankles are fine, but you seem to dismiss everything the Hunt family (and it is a family business when he needs to shield himself from certain complaints) has failed to do because one died and another took over. That's some weak shit pal, very weak. It's not like the first time Clark saw the Chiefs was after the reading of the will, so please stop acting like it. He may be able to say he wasn't in total control before then, and 9 out of 10 lawyers would say that's accurate because he included the word "total", but we know that's where the excuses start for the Hunt family of corporate whores.

But evidently you're OK with one family being in charge and their cumulative success is nothing in 45 years, you're their perfect fan/victim (and they love you for it).

But I must ask this, with this group of players, coaches, and GM, when you you see the Chiefs winning a playoff game, and when do you see them playing for a SB birth?

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 02:54 PM
But I must ask this, with this group of players, coaches, and GM, when you you see the Chiefs winning a playoff game, and when do you see them playing for a SB birth?

It's still possible, although not likely, that they could win a playoff game this year. They still control their own destiny for a playoff birth.

As for the Super Bowl, who knows. The NFL is an ever changing league. Did anyone think a few years ago that Seattle was on the brink of winning a Super Bowl? What about the Saints before they acquired Brees?

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 02:54 PM
All you have for your "the Hunts don't care" argument is their failure to find a franchise QB in the draft. Since Clark has taken over, they've went out and spent the money to acquire highly sought after coaches and GMs. They've given large contracts to their star players.

Your posts sound like they were written by a teenage girl who didn't get what they wanted for their birthday. Try not to sprain your ankle while you're stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum.

Hey mang, I love losing!

CHIEFS WAY FTW!

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 02:57 PM
Hey mang, I love losing!

CHIEFS WAY FTW!

Hey mang, I'm a troll!

RETARD WAY FTW!

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 02:59 PM
Hey mang, I'm a troll!

RETARD WAY FTW!

LMAO

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 03:07 PM
It's still possible, although not likely, that they could win a playoff game this year. They still control their own destiny for a playoff birth.

As for the Super Bowl, who knows. The NFL is an ever changing league. Did anyone think a few years ago that Seattle was on the brink of winning a Super Bowl? What about the Saints before they acquired Brees?

I choose to believe the Seahags owner made sure he got more than a name when he got his coach. Was there some luck, sure, but I think he created some of his own. Clark's selection of Andy was too much emotion and need for a name than it was the right choice. At some point I'm just tired of our out-of-town owner swinging and missing on the plan, people, and timing.

And I'm sure as hell not OK with his "say nothing" attitude. I'm not asking for a Jerry or a Snyder, but I do want somebody who's willing to speak up when bullshit like Hali's fine isn't questioned after Miller's wasn't. i don't care if it doesn't get it over-turned, I think the league needs to know that he's willing to fight for his guys.

Now, if you had mentioned the Browns and Lions instead of the Saints, yeah, I'd say nothing more than we have company in misery...

Just don't say the owner isn't a key player in a team's success, and the NFL needs to question teams that appear to be perpetual losers. That's bullshit.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 03:09 PM
It's still possible, although not likely, that they could win a playoff game this year. They still control their own destiny for a playoff birth.



This team couldn't control it's bowels.

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 03:19 PM
I choose to believe the Seahags owner made sure he got more than a name when he got his coach. Was there some luck, sure, but I think he created some of his own. Clark's selection of Andy was too much emotion and need for a name than it was the right choice. At some point I'm just tired of our out-of-town owner swinging and missing on the plan, people, and timing.

And I'm sure as hell not OK with his "say nothing" attitude. I'm not asking for a Jerry or a Snyder, but I do want somebody who's willing to speak up when bullshit like Hali's fine isn't questioned after Miller's wasn't. i don't care if it doesn't get it over-turned, I think the league needs to know that he's willing to fight for his guys.

Now, if you had mentioned the Browns and Lions instead of the Saints, yeah, I'd say nothing more than we have company in misery...

Just don't say the owner isn't a key player in a team's success, and the NFL needs to question teams that appear to be perpetual losers. That's bullshit.

Funny that you mentioned Jerrah and Snyder. In your 7 years no playoff win plan, both of those guys would have been forced to sell their team or buy it back at current market value.

How do you know that Ckark didn't call Goodell after the Hali fine? Those type of conversations are rarely made public.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 03:47 PM
Funny that you mentioned Jerrah and Snyder. In your 7 years no playoff win plan, both of those guys would have been forced to sell their team or buy it back at current market value.

How do you know that Ckark didn't call Goodell after the Hali fine? Those type of conversations are rarely made public.

Yep, tey would have, and they should have (had to buy it back). And I think I've been clear that Hunt needs to do something "in public", I don't give a shit about what they've done in private! And knowing Hunt, I doubt it did happen. If he did call RG, I'm sure RG handed the phone to his grand kid and told him to hang up in 2 minutes. IOW, the Hunts havent been a voice at the NFL table for decades, I doubt any complaints they have would be addressed unless those complaints are made in public where the NFL would have to address them (because the media sure will).

Again, I don't think he made any call, he's a coward and will let his team and KC suffer just to stave off any scrutiny from the league. I think the NFL has something on the Hunt family and I think that's why they walk away from every raping like it never happened.

And it's hurting this team. I think when KC "wanted" Manning and he respectfully decided to not even give them a look, that says a lot about the team's image around the league. Granted, only one team was going to get Manning, but what was it about Denver that made him say yes to them and no to KC? Here we are with scrubs galore, and we're still worried about cap, and the Broncos have all these "stars" yet appear to still have cap space to boot. So, evidently he's not a good money guy either! Or, perhaps, players want to flock to places where they can win, so they play for a little less. I don't know, but Hunt's paying a lot of money for a team that gave up a 28 point lead in playoff game, and this year has given up 40+ sacks.

But hey, on offense we have JC on defense we have TH and JH. Could it get any better?

Pepe Silvia
12-13-2014, 03:57 PM
Denver fans are being bitches on facebook, they said Chiefs fans have no right to complain. I would have liked to see them post that at chiefs planet. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 04:00 PM
. I think the NFL has something on the Hunt family and I think that's why they walk away from every raping like it never happened.



I don't gamble, but I would drop some cash on this probability. Something happened in the 60's with the merger, something between Hunt, Davis, and the league that is still fucking both teams today.

LoneWolf
12-13-2014, 04:13 PM
I don't gamble, but I would drop some cash on this probability. Something happened in the 60's with the merger, something between Hunt, Davis, and the league that is still ****ing both teams today.

Yes, something happened in the 60s and the Raiders won SuperBowls in 76', 80', and 83', and lost to Tampa in 02'.

Hunt is a well respected owner. This was evident during the last CBA negotiations when he was one of the few owners asked to consistently sit at the bargaining table.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 04:17 PM
I don't gamble, but I would drop some cash on this probability. Something happened in the 60's with the merger, something between Hunt, Davis, and the league that is still fucking both teams today.

Well their seeming lack of public questioning of all the no-lube ass rapings, and getting to nothing significant since 1969, seem to suggest there might be some truth to it. If not, these are some really unlucky motherfuckers and any player staying away from the team would have logic on their side.

Again, the lack of a clearly laid-out plan, so many very broken parts of the field, and no money to fix any of the broken parts sure does paint a gloomy picture for leadership. And their sitting on their hands after last season's player losses sure adds some smudges to the canvas.

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/086/7/0/dark_art___by_caronade-d3cloay.jpg

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 04:29 PM
Yes, something happened in the 60s and the Raiders won SuperBowls in 76', 80', and 83', and lost to Tampa in 02'.

Hunt is a well respected owner. This was evident during the last CBA negotiations when he was one of the few owners asked to consistently sit at the bargaining table.

I'm not sure I agree. If anything I'd say the other owners appreciate having a team that more often than not won't get in their team's way as they charge towards their goal of another SB win.

As for him being at the CBA table, OK, that's a nice resume bullet for him. But it sure hasn't resulted in anything in terms of great players chomping at the bit to come to KC to the detriment of other franchises to play for him. If Denver's owner wasn't at the table, he sure was doing something to make his team attractive while Clark was busy with keeping the sport going.

Sorry, I just can't stand the family,and I like them owning my city's football team even more. I wish he'd leave this one here and convince the league to expand so he can own one down there.

Sweet Daddy Hate
12-13-2014, 04:36 PM
Yes, something happened in the 60s and the Raiders won SuperBowls in 76', 80', and 83', and lost to Tampa in 02'.

Hunt is a well respected owner. This was evident during the last CBA negotiations when he was one of the few owners asked to consistently sit at the bargaining table.

And always against the tide. Before he went senile, Davis knew how to counter their games and build teams. Fuck, he was one Rozelle tampering away from claiming Elway.

TimBone
12-13-2014, 04:39 PM
Yep, tey would have, and they should have (had to buy it back). And I think I've been clear that Hunt needs to do something "in public", I don't give a shit about what they've done in private! And knowing Hunt, I doubt it did happen. If he did call RG, I'm sure RG handed the phone to his grand kid and told him to hang up in 2 minutes. IOW, the Hunts havent been a voice at the NFL table for decades, I doubt any complaints they have would be addressed unless those complaints are made in public where the NFL would have to address them (because the media sure will).

Again, I don't think he made any call, he's a coward and will let his team and KC suffer just to stave off any scrutiny from the league. I think the NFL has something on the Hunt family and I think that's why they walk away from every raping like it never happened.

And it's hurting this team. I think when KC "wanted" Manning and he respectfully decided to not even give them a look, that says a lot about the team's image around the league. Granted, only one team was going to get Manning, but what was it about Denver that made him say yes to them and no to KC? Here we are with scrubs galore, and we're still worried about cap, and the Broncos have all these "stars" yet appear to still have cap space to boot. So, evidently he's not a good money guy either! Or, perhaps, players want to flock to places where they can win, so they play for a little less. I don't know, but Hunt's paying a lot of money for a team that gave up a 28 point lead in playoff game, and this year has given up 40+ sacks.

But hey, on offense we have JC on defense we have TH and JH. Could it get any better?
Holy fuck...do you have a closet full of tinfoil hats?

Gravedigger
12-13-2014, 04:42 PM
Fuck the NFL, what the hell was he supposed to do he got pulled down by the OLineman and that along with his forward momentum took him right into his legs. They're treating QBs like kickers more and more.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 04:42 PM
Holy fuck...do you have a closet full of tinfoil hats?

I'm a Chiefs fan, I sort of need them. Are you blind, or do you suffer other "more than a week" memory issues?

Do you really think this is just a 45-year run of bad luck? Really?

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 04:45 PM
Fuck the NFL, what the hell was he supposed to do he got pulled down by the OLineman and that along with his forward momentum took him right into his legs. They're treating QBs like kickers more and more.

I suppose he's expected to just stay down.... I'm sure that's what the NFL will recommend. They'll tell you that's the best thing for the QB so do it.

As for the hold, they won't even come out and admit that part of the play ever happened. That's the sad part, but that's doesn't fit their needs, but they will always play the tape from just after that rather relevant part of the action.

TimBone
12-13-2014, 05:22 PM
I'm a Chiefs fan, I sort of need them. Are you blind, or do you suffer other "more than a week" memory issues?

Do you really think this is just a 45-year run of bad luck? Really?
No. I think it's a 45 year run of shit play, shit coaching, and shit management. Nothing more.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 05:54 PM
No. I think it's a 45 year run of shit play, shit coaching, and shit management. Nothing more.

Well shucks then.... Can I keep my tinfoil hat during this short dry spell until it's replaced with a SB trophy?

Pasta Little Brioni
12-13-2014, 05:56 PM
No. I think it's a 45 year run of shit play, shit coaching, and shit management. Nothing more.

There does seem to be a bit more at play

TimBone
12-13-2014, 06:37 PM
Well shucks then.... Can I keep my tinfoil hat during this short dry spell until it's replaced with a SB trophy?
Of course you can.

TimBone
12-13-2014, 06:37 PM
There does seem to be a bit more at play
Some bad luck here and there. But there's no big conspiracy. The Chiefs have themselves to blame.

MagicHef
12-13-2014, 06:38 PM
I suppose he's expected to just stay down.... I'm sure that's what the NFL will recommend. They'll tell you that's the best thing for the QB so do it.

As for the hold, they won't even come out and admit that part of the play ever happened. That's the sad part, but that's doesn't fit their needs, but they will always play the tape from just after that rather relevant part of the action.

Or, more likely, no one cares that a multi-millionaire had to give several thousand dollars to charity.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 06:46 PM
Or, more likely, no one cares that a multi-millionaire had to give several thousand dollars to charity.
Well Von Moller must make the league minimum I guess!

scho63
12-13-2014, 07:16 PM
Roger Goodell was in no position to fine Von "the Con" Miller because he was too busy on his knees wiping off the jizz from the Peyton Manning and John Elway tag team. I hope Roger gets anal cancer.

GloryDayz
12-13-2014, 07:25 PM
Roger Goodell was in no position to fine Von "the Con" Miller because he was too busy on his knees wiping off the jizz from the Peyton Manning and John Elway tag team. I hope Roger gets anal cancer.

I think you're being too nice!