Official Seahawks @ Cardinals

[Deberg_1990]

Let's get it on!

Oh, and Tony Moeaki out of course.

[Bugeater]

Marshawn Lynch out with a tummyache.

[chefsos]

Marshawn Lynch out with a tummyache.Whatever product is Skittles' competitor needs to jump all over that.

[lewdog]

Hope my team can do work on the Seachickens!!!

Red on red looks good.

Go Cards Go!!!

[TLO]

Go Cards!

[chefsos]

Go Cards!Yeah, well, that's what people in Chicago and St. Louis said too, and they took 'em seriously.

[lewdog]

Seattle fans have quickly become about the most annoying fan base in all of sports.

They act like they are the first fans to ever get loud at a sporting event.

[lewdog]

Gonna be a long night watching Lindley.

:facepalm:

[tk13]

First team to 6 wins.

[SAUTO]

Funny how poised Wilson is even with guys running free in is face.

[Deberg_1990]

I'm surprised Cards were not called for the hit on Wilson there? Looked like he led with helmet.

[lewdog]

Funny how poised Wilson is even with guys running free in is face.

Alex says throw the 1-2 yard swing pass before guys get in your face. Works every time.

[SAUTO]

Alex says throw the 1-2 yard swing pass before guys get in your face. Works every time.

Or steps into the rush.

[Hammock Parties]

Ryan Fucking Lindley is more aggressive than Alex.

[lewdog]

HAD HIM!!!

[Deberg_1990]

Ryan ****ing Lindley is more aggressive than Alex.

Lindley > A Smith ?

[lewdog]

Ryan Fucking Lindley is more aggressive than Alex.

Arians doesn't give a fuck who slings it. He'll always mix in the long pass attempts.

[SAUTO]

Fuck zilla for hating Arians.

[lewdog]

Lindley > A Smith ?

You never know if you don't try.

[TribalElder]

Can they start playing with no refs

[penbrook]

Would you trade a first this year along with a second and next years first and Andy Reid for Bruce Arians

[lewdog]

Fuck zilla for hating Arians.

I don't partake in much football talk around here but I wanted Arians so bad. He's a good coach, aggressive and players like him. I can't believe what he's done for the Cards. They aren't that talented.

[Hootie]

Would you trade a first this year along with a second and next years first and Andy Reid for Bruce Arians

this place has gone full retard

[Dylan]

Wilson is fast

[lewdog]

Wilson is so fucking quick.

[PizzaDoughz]

That was a long run and the announcers sound dead and silent lol

[Hootie]

we'd have won 12 games this year with Russell Wilson at QB, if not more

[Easy 6]

Frankly, both teams can die in a head on bus crash.

[lewdog]

Would you trade a first this year along with a second and next years first and Andy Reid for Bruce Arians

I'd trade you for a day of diarrhea if you promised to leave forever.

[Deberg_1990]

Wilson is fast

Heh great run, but he kinda ran out if gas there at the end.


I like how the defender who tackles him let up as well. Probably afraid of a flag. Got to love the modern NFL.

[MahiMike]

Seahawks suck. We beat them. Actually beat Arizona too...

[Dylan]

Heh great run, but he kinda ran out if gas there at the end.


I like how the defender who tackles him let up as well. Probably afraid of a flag. Got to love the modern NFL.

Thanks Deberg, I did not notice ...


Oh no, missed FG

[lewdog]

Get some points and hope your defense can keep pressuring Wilson.

Have to get some points here.

[lewdog]

Nice spot on that.

[lewdog]

Methodical drive here helped by Hawks penalties.

[Deberg_1990]

Love me sum Arians. Another former Schottenheimer underling finding success.

[lewdog]

Gonna have to do some different things close to the goal line. Hawks are getting tons of penetration up front.

[tk13]

Almost threw a devastating INT there.

[lewdog]

TURRRIBLLLEEE

[Deberg_1990]

Arizona with an insurmountable lead now

[MahiMike]

I'm jealous of the cardinals. They are playing for their division with their 4th string QB. Best thing that could happen for Alex would be to get hurt. Then we could see how much we appreciate him.

[Hootie]

Seattle turns that read option into an 80 yard TD pass ...

San Fran no longer lets Kaep, a running QB, run read option.

I'll never understand it.

[eDave]

Arizona Seattle with an insurmountable lead now

...........

[Dylan]

and just like that against AZ defense, SEA scores an 80 yarder

[MahiMike]

What a catch! Wonder what that's like.

[Pepe Silvia]

I doubt the Cards get in the end zone tonight.

[TribalElder]

Backwards return like dat

[lewdog]

I doubt the Cards get in the end zone tonight.

Really going out on a limb there huh?

[GloryDayz]

I sure wish we had a QB with touch like that.

[Reerun_KC]

I sure wish we had a QB with touch like that.
Sure would help in Reid's horizontal passing game.

[GloryDayz]

And the NFL kicks Chiefs fans with that clip!

[TLO]

What the hell kind of throw was that?

RIP Cards punter.

[Pepe Silvia]

Really going out on a limb there huh?

Nah it's the NFL, you should score one TD by accident but Lindley is that awful.

[eDave]

Sherman talked the ref out of that.

[TLO]

I guess it wasn't as bad as it originally looked.

[RobBlake]

hags get the calls game over

[lewdog]

Nah it's the NFL, you should score one TD by accident but Lindley is that awful.

Oh that's right, you aren't a chiefs fan.

Have you heard of Alex Smith?

[TribalElder]

Seahawks told the refs

These aren't the plays you were flagging

On some Jedi mind shit

[penbrook]

Oh that's right, you aren't a chiefs fan.

Have you heard of Alex Smith?

Alex Smith beat the Seahawks

[Dylan]

Sherman's lucky he was not concussed.

[Pepe Silvia]

Oh that's right, you aren't a chiefs fan.

Have you heard of Alex Smith?

Yes and he sucks.

[lewdog]

Alex Smith beat the Seahawks

How many TDs did we have today dipshit?

[GloryDayz]

Sherman talked the ref out of that.

Hmmmmmm, interesting....

[Dylan]

On the replay, it looks like Sherman was blocked away from the kicker and yet Sherman still made contact with him. He would have hit him straight on if not for the block... I think it was a bad call from the refs.

[eDave]

Tough run

[Easy 6]

Alex Smith beat the Seahawks

Alex Smith overachieved in a regular season game with plenty of credit due to his defense and running backs.

Tonight, in the playoffs... he sucked big fat pornstar dong.

[Pepe Silvia]

And here comes the blowout.

[lewdog]

Welp, game over.

[GloryDayz]

I always wonder why defenses don't come back on the next series and stretch a RB's MCL for that kind of shit.

I get being amped-up, but they have 33 more minutes fo game time to cause an unfortunate injury.

[Hootie]

people actually thought the Lindley lead Cards had a chance tonight against the Hawks?

So if the Cowboys / Hawks and Pack all win what are the seeds in the NFC next week?

1. Cowboys
2. Hawks
3. Packers

??

[eDave]

Fitz still has the refs respect.

[lewdog]

people actually thought the Lindley lead Cards had a chance tonight against the Hawks?


No, I don't think anyone did. But here you are watching it and so am I.

[Dylan]

Terrible hit on Lindley - poor guy got planted

[GloryDayz]

I love how Pete will get in the official's face. Such a departure from Andy.

I don't care it it doesn't help, but I'm sure it does, at leas the tries.

[eDave]

No, I don't think anyone did. But here you are watching it and so am I.

Who's backing up Lindley?!!

[Hootie]

I'm watching it because fucking Showtime Anytime is a fucking joke and crashed right before the Homeland finale.

So pissed off.

[eDave]

Oh, and hey Hootie; Appreciate the av change.

Thank you!

[RobBlake]

az is gonna get raped unless lindley stop actin like a bitch

[lewdog]

I'm watching it because fucking Showtime Anytime is a fucking joke and crashed right before the Homeland finale.

So pissed off.

Sounds like a personal problem, brah.

[Hootie]

ok so I'll answer my own question

if Seattle wins out, they get #1 seed and the Cowboys get #3 seed and the NFC North Champ gets #2 seed

so, with all the anti-Cowboy fans on the board ... guess that's nice they will get a chance to choke in the 1st round so everyone can hate on Romo and take their mind off the Chiefs and their ineptitude

[Pepe Silvia]

ok so I'll answer my own question

if Seattle wins out, they get #1 seed and the Cowboys get #3 seed and the NFC North Champ gets #2 seed

so, with all the anti-Cowboy fans on the board ... guess that's nice they will get a chance to choke in the 1st round so everyone can hate on Romo and take their mind off the Chiefs and their ineptitude

Crown 'em.

[WakkaWakka]

Bengals-Steelers flexed to SNF next week.

[TLO]

Come on Cards. Make this a game.

[Pepe Silvia]

I know this kids a 3rd stringer but damn.

[ThaVirus]

Love watchin Russell Wilson play. He's everything I wish Alex Smith could be.

Still hilarious to me that some bozos on this site say the two are the same. When has an opposing coach ever said "We've got to do a better job of containing Alex Smith"?

[Pepe Silvia]

Love watchin Russell Wilson play. He's everything I wish Alex Smith could be.

Still hilarious to me that some bozos on this site say the two are the same. When has an opposing coach ever said "We've got to do a better job of containing Alex Smith"?

I've never seen a QB more elusive than him, you can't catch him.

[TLO]

Arizona needs a turnover.

[TLO]

Missed the FG

[Deberg_1990]

I've never seen a QB more elusive than him, you can't catch him.

Randall Cunningham, Mike Vick, Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton?

[lewdog]

Arizona needs a turnover.

Arizona needs a fucking miracle.

[Pepe Silvia]

Randall Cunningham, Mike Vick, Steve Young?

Cunningham was before my time. But yeah you could add Steve Young up there with the best. Fuck Mike Vick though.

[GloryDayz]

I've never seen a QB more elusive than him, you can't catch him.

Vick was in his day.

[TLO]

This is what a bad QB looks like ChiefsPlanet.

[ThaVirus]

Zona doesn't want to win.

They're looking very Chiefs-esque on offense.

[ThaVirus]

This is what a bad QB looks like ChiefsPlanet.

They literally look just like us LMAO

[ThaVirus]

As far as overall production goes anyway...

[RobBlake]

They literally look just like us LMAO

KC can move the ball.. lindly cant

[Hootie]

They literally look just like us LMAO

we punted twice today

Smith isn't anywhere close to a franchise QB. He's a game manager who can't carry the team (something you want in a QB)

but if you think he is Ryan Lindley, you're dumb

We're 8-7.

If Lindley was our QB all year, we'd be 2-13.

I'm as frustrated with Smith as anyone, believe me ... but be realistic.

[TLO]

Who else do the Cards have at QB? They should probably try someone else.

[Deberg_1990]

Zona doesn't want to win.

They're looking very Chiefs-esque on offense.

I don't know many teams who can win with their 3rd string QB?

[GloryDayz]

I don't know many teams who can win with their 3rd string QB?Good point, we sure can't...

[TLO]

Hey look at that - another 3 and out.

[GloryDayz]

Going over the top. I like that kind of play!

[TLO]

Or I guess maybe they're going for it. And they got it. Big Balls.

[TLO]

Now they can run 3 more plays and punt!

[Hootie]

the funny thing about today is with Alex Smith is ...

had he not missed that pass to Wilson (which was awful), I'd have a hard time figuring out how he had a bad game.

Lindley for 'Zona? This is a wretched game.

Alex? Alex made a lot of good plays today. He missed a very important one and it killed us. That's why he's Alex Smith and not Ben Roethlisberger. That's why we'll continue to be 8-8 - 11-5 and never win anything important with Alex Smith.

But people are overreacting pretty heavily to how Alex played today. Jamaal Charles had a worse game than Alex Smith.

[GloryDayz]

Did the Chiefs O-line fly back to AZ?

[Dylan]

Feels like 140 to 3

[GloryDayz]

the funny thing about today is with Alex Smith is ...

had he not missed that pass to Wilson (which was awful), I'd have a hard time figuring out how he had a bad game.

Lindley for 'Zona? This is a wretched game.

Alex? Alex made a lot of good plays today. He missed a very important one and it killed us. That's why he's Alex Smith and not Ben Roethlisberger. That's why we'll continue to be 8-8 - 11-5 and never win anything important with Alex Smith.

But people are overreacting pretty heavily to how Alex played today. Jamaal Charles had a worse game than Alex Smith.

I don't think just that one play was the sum total of his poor play. It may be difficult to quantify "pant shits" (with this O-line he has a right to fear for his life), and missing open people (prolly because he's a scared white guy on most plays), but I think his game lacked for more than that one HUGE fuck-up (that an NFL QB should only make once in a career and he makes every week).

[tk13]

That's amazing. I had no idea there was still anyone from the 60's still coaching in the NFL, let alone from the Chiefs.

[ThaVirus]

we punted twice today

Smith isn't anywhere close to a franchise QB. He's a game manager who can't carry the team (something you want in a QB)

but if you think he is Ryan Lindley, you're dumb

We're 8-7.

If Lindley was our QB all year, we'd be 2-13.

I'm as frustrated with Smith as anyone, believe me ... but be realistic.

I know. I watched the game today.

These guys look inept on offense. They're doing it a bit differently than we tend to, but still ineffective overall. We've put up some serious stinkers on offense lately. 12 @Pitt, 14 @Arizona, 16 vs Denver..

[TLO]

Big time sack there. And my God what a throw...

[ThaVirus]

We caught Seattle when they didn't have Bobby Wagner. His return has totally changed the face of their defense.

I dare say that if he had been healthy when we played them, they beat us pretty soundly.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

One and done Cards

[Hootie]

I don't think just that one play was the sum total of his poor play. It may be difficult to quantify "pant shits" (with this O-line he has a right to fear for his life), and missing open people (prolly because he's a scared white guy on most plays), but I think his game lacked for more than that one HUGE fuck-up (that an NFL QB should only make once in a career and he makes every week).

it wasn't great by any means

but

we punted twice

zero times in the first half ... one time Bowe dropped a TD pass, one time Fisher decided to not block on 4th and 1

Smith played a pretty good 1st half. Maybe one of his better halves, really. The fact we only scored 6 points wasn't on Smith IMO

the 2nd half? The Wilson throw was terrible. That's one you can't miss. That took his A- grade to a C+ right then and there.

The Charles fumble finished it for us. We all know Smith can't play when we're down 10+

I give him a C for the day. Either way, he's tiring.

[GloryDayz]

That's touch!!

[TLO]

Game.

[TLO]

We caught Seattle when they didn't have Bobby Wagner. His return has totally changed the face of their defense.

I dare say that if he had been healthy when we played them, they beat us pretty soundly.

:rolleyes:

[GloryDayz]

it wasn't great by any means

but

we punted twice

zero times in the first half ... one time Bowe dropped a TD pass, one time Fisher decided to not block on 4th and 1

Smith played a pretty good 1st half. Maybe one of his better halves, really. The fact we only scored 6 points wasn't on Smith IMO

the 2nd half? The Wilson throw was terrible. That's one you can't miss. That took his A- grade to a C+ right then and there.

The Charles fumble finished it for us. We all know Smith can't play when we're down 10+

I give him a C for the day. Either way, he's tiring.

Agree, he's trying, but God just cheated him in the genes department. I'm sitting here watching Wilson and wondering how one human in the same career field can do things ours can't even dream of...

[Pepe Silvia]

That's all seattle needed another weapon. Jeez

[Hootie]

I keep swaying back and forth every week on who I'd take for the next 10 years at QB: Wilson or Luck. Clearly, for THE NOW, Wilson >> Luck. A few weeks ago, I finally conceded I'd probably take Luck for the long run.

I just don't know anymore.

[ThaVirus]

:rolleyes:

Do you watch them play?

They mentioned it earlier in the broadcast and I forgot what it is exactly, but over the past 6 weeks or something they've only allowed 6.8 points and 180 yards per game.

[Hootie]

I'd be totally shocked if Seattle isn't in the Super Bowl.

I think 4 AFC teams will have a shot. The only AFC team I can't see going to the Super Bowl is overrated Indianapolis.

I could see any one of Denver, Cincy, New England or Pitt getting to the Super Bowl. And I don't even know where I'd rank them. The big dogs (NE and Den) aren't really playing inspiring football IMO.

either way

Seattle is going to repeat IMHO

[Dylan]

I feel bad for Arians, he did the best he could with the hand he was dealt - Unfortunately, AZ is not going anywhere with Lindley.

[Pepe Silvia]

I'd be totally shocked if Seattle isn't in the Super Bowl.

I think 4 AFC teams will have a shot. The only AFC team I can't see going to the Super Bowl is overrated Indianapolis.

I could see any one of Denver, Cincy, New England or Pitt getting to the Super Bowl. And I don't even know where I'd rank them. The big dogs (NE and Den) aren't really playing inspiring football IMO.

either way

Seattle is going to repeat IMHO

That defense would piss pound all of them.

[Hootie]

Do you watch them play?

They mentioned it earlier in the broadcast and I forgot what it is exactly, but over the past 6 weeks or something they've only allowed 6.8 points and 180 yards per game.

It's been four weeks (this is the fifth) ...

and they've played

Drew Stanton
Colin Kaepernick
Mark Sanchez
Colin Kaepernick
Ryan Lindley

So yeah, their defense and Bobby Wagner are good. Really good.

But ...

Let's not pretend like they've shut down Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers over the past 5 weeks. San Fran, since they no longer let Colin Kaepernick run the read option, is about Arizona bad on offense.

[ThaVirus]

I hope they repeat.

I couldn't stomach another NE, DEN, GB, PIT, BAL Super Bowl winner.

Cowboys fans haven't shut their yap about their Bowl wins in the 90s. The last thing they need is another.

I don't think Arizona, San Diego, Atlanta/Carolina or Indy even have a shot at winning it.

Matt Stafford is a douche so that's a no-go.

I'll be rooting for the Seahawks or the Packers, looks like..

[Dylan]

Looks like SEA may have a chance to beat Peyton and Brady in back to back Super Bowls. :D

[Hootie]

The NFC, the way I look at it, is this:

Seattle 50%
Green Bay 35%
Dallas 15%

...and really, no matter who advances out of those 3, I think wins the Super Bowl. If it's Dallas (which would shock me), I could see them losing because, you know, Dallas.

[tk13]

Although to their credit they kind of busted the myth of Sanchez's rebirth. He was getting a bit of hype, even on here, once again before they marched in there and mauled them. They never recovered.

[Pepe Silvia]

I want nothing more than SB number 5 but our defense is shit and the Hawks OWN Rodgers hard. :(

[eDave]

Where the hell is that skating ring lewdog?

[Hootie]

I hope nobody takes this the way they probably will, but, I'm very tired of watching Alex Smith play but I'd still take him 10 times out of 10 over Joe Flacco.

We'd probably have 2 or 3 less wins with Flacco at QB. I'm not kidding. He's garbage.

[eDave]

LOL. That run

[SAUTO]

LOL
ROFL
LMAO
HOLY FUCK

[ThaVirus]

It's been four weeks (this is the fifth) ...

and they've played

Drew Stanton
Colin Kaepernick
Mark Sanchez
Colin Kaepernick
Ryan Lindley

So yeah, their defense and Bobby Wagner are good. Really good.

But ...

Let's not pretend like they've shut down Tony Romo and Aaron Rodgers over the past 5 weeks. San Fran, since they no longer let Colin Kaepernick run the read option, is about Arizona bad on offense.

Fair point.

Still, these are NFL offenses we're talking about with some good talent (mostly Philly and San Fran). Despite the fact that Sanchez blows, Philly offenses always put up a ton of yards and they got absolutely dismantled by Seattle.

Less than 7 points and and 180 yards of total offense is incredible.

[Dylan]

WOW

[tk13]

And anybody who doesn't think Lynch is a great weapon at RB is nuts.

[SAUTO]

Beast mode ROFL

[SAUTO]

It's the fucking skittles

[Sassy Squatch]

Jesus, that was fucking sick.

[ThaVirus]

That's what Jamaal needs. Some signature runs.

Guy's a HOF caliber talent, I think, but he's got very few, if any, signature runs.

[SAUTO]

That's what Jamaal needs. Some signature runs.

Guy's a HOF caliber talent, I think, but he's got very few, if any, signature runs.

Because his big runs are running away from people.

[Pepe Silvia]

Beast mode does it again wow.

[Dylan]

Beast Mode is like a Madden player come to life

[ThaVirus]

Because his big runs are running away from people.

I know. Jamaal just tends to outrun everyone, which isn't quite as sexy as a stiff arm that sends a guy flying or a cut back that breaks an ankle.

What is Jamaal's most signature-y-iest (?) run? The 90 yarder @ NO?

[Al Bundy]

QB means everything... Ryan Lindley is 100% pure horse shit.

[Dylan]

Collinsworth: "...perhaps the best play I've ever seen in my life."

LOL - LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah...Charles is no beastmode, sorry.

[Pablo]

Out of the money thanks to that run. Can't say he didn't earn it. Shit.

[Hootie]

LMAO

Jamaal Charles > Marshawn Lynch

That much I know.

[Dylan]

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/lNK5-nCSgRK5L7IKh3TgXdu00dE=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/assets.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2862260/beastmooode.0.gif

LOL - It's a great run...Mowing people down

[Hootie]

someone go look up Warrick Dunn and T.J. Duckett's #'s with Mike Vick at QB back in Atlanta ...

Lynch is really good.

He also gets the benefit of playing in a read option system with a QB who is going to run for damn near 1000 yards who defenses have to plan for and contain ... making it exponentially easier to be the running back

Jamaal Charles is a better NFL RB than Marshawn Lynch.

[ThaVirus]

someone go look up Warrick Dunn and T.J. Duckett's #'s with Mike Vick at QB back in Atlanta ...

Lynch is really good.

He also gets the benefit of playing in a read option system with a QB who is going to run for damn near 1000 yards who defenses have to plan for and contain ... making it exponentially easier to be the running back

Jamaal Charles is a better NFL RB than Marshawn Lynch.

Truth here.

They mentioned earlier that Wilson would be the leading rusher on something like 14 teams this season.

[ILChief]

That's what Jamaal needs. Some signature runs.

Guy's a HOF caliber talent, I think, but he's got very few, if any, signature runs.

And he doesn't show up for big games

[Hootie]

I don't know if the SF media are a bunch of Harbaugh marks or a bunch of pussies but if I was a reporter down there I would demand, each and every week, Harbaugh explain to me why the read option is no longer a part of their offense, and why they insist on making Kaepernick a pocket QB when his greatest threat is his running ability.

It's absolutely baffling and one of the worst coaching jobs I've ever seen in my life. And someone is going to give that guy the keys to a franchise or a collegiate program? Yeah, I'm sure he'll do fine ... but the stubbornness he showed this year with Kaepernick and taking away his best play makes me think I wouldn't want him anywhere near my NFL franchise.

[tk13]

Sure having Wilson helps, but don't kid yourself. Lynch was doing "Beast Mode" stuff with Matt Hasselbeck at QB. He's helped Wilson just as much as Wilson has helped him.

[eDave]

What the hell was that? Embarrassing man.

[ThaVirus]

And he doesn't show up for big games

Hah!

I don't agree. It's tough for a guy when he is literally your entire offense.

Better teams are often better because they have better coaching. Any defensive coordinator worth his salt will just game plan to stop Charles and win the game easily.

Aaaaaaaand Wilson scores again. The Hawks are good and it pisses me off. Why not us!?!

[Dylan]

Wilson making AZ defense look silly

[ThaVirus]

Sure having Wilson helps, but don't kid yourself. Lynch was doing "Beast Mode" stuff with Matt Hasselbeck at QB. He's helped Wilson just as much as Wilson has helped him.

Eh. What's his career YPC average?

[Hootie]

And he doesn't show up for big games

that's a load of fucking bullshit

how does an NFL RB not show up for big games?

Do you realize how fast the game is ... and how insane that comment is?

He's a RB. Not a QB.

We gave him 9 carries today. 9.

You think, JUST MAYBE, the fact we can't throw the ball down the field greatly reduces the room Jamaal has to run?

I have been reading this all day today after the game that "Jamaal isn't a big game back."

It's literally some of the dumbest tripe I've ever heard in my life. It's nonsense.

The fumble was bad. That wasn't because he was 'scared' or 'nervous' or 'can't handle pressure' ... it's because he's been doing that all year long. He's been careless. And he was careless again today.

I can't stand some of the shit that is said around here after losses. It's insane. I bet 80% of this board would trade Alex Smith straight up for Ryan Lindley and probably throw in a 2nd round pick as well.

[Pepe Silvia]

Hah!

I don't agree. It's tough for a guy when he is literally your entire offense.

Better teams are often better because they have better coaching. Any defensive coordinator worth his salt will just game plan to stop Charles and win the game easily.

Aaaaaaaand Wilson scores again. The Hawks are good and it pisses me off. Why not us!?!

It's disgusting how good they are.

[ThaVirus]

Cards fans getting a big slap in the face tonight.

This will be the outcome of basically any game they play in the post season, save maybe if they get lucky and draw the NFC South winner. Even then, I'm not sure I'd put my money on Zona.

[Psyko Tek]

35 to 6
just lay down and get it over with
anything to shut up collingsworths

[eDave]

"yeah"

[Hootie]

Sure having Wilson helps, but don't kid yourself. Lynch was doing "Beast Mode" stuff with Matt Hasselbeck at QB. He's helped Wilson just as much as Wilson has helped him.

I don't believe that at all.

I think he's a top 5 - top 10 NFL RB. But what does that really mean? I don't even know. The RB position is totally devalued to me.

He averages 4.3 YPC with Russell Wilson. That's pretty good. He makes some 'wow' runs. Good back.

Jamaal Charles has averaged 5.5 YPC (or close) for every carry his ENTIRE career.

So when you have morons who watch 1 freaking run by Marshawn Lynch when he gets the benefit of having a QB who keeps ends from crashing the line and they all declare "Jamaal Charles is no 'BEAST MODE'" it makes me want to gag.

Such is life on OverReaction Planet.

[Hootie]

this had to be the easiest game to pick all day

[Dylan]

AZ never had a chance with Lindley

[tk13]

I never said he's better than Jamal Charles. I said he's a great weapon back there. I'm 100% sure his numbers are better with Wilson back there. It's a mutual relationship. Put 2008 Larry Johnson back there with Wilson and see what happens. Lynch is not "made" by Wilson, he's had the same talent he's always had... even with Matt Hasselbeck at QB.

[Hootie]

let me add to my Lynch rant

Clearly, he's the best back on Seattle. He's really good.

But, I'm pretty sure I'd still consider Seattle the heavy favorite in the NFC without Lynch at RB this year (say he got hurt).

The RB position just doesn't even matter. The Cowboys are fine with Dunbar and Randle and no Murray.

Guys like Jamaal are still special because Jamaal is still such a threat in the passing game ... and he has a skillset no one else in the NFL really has with his speed, agility and surprising power for a small guy

[Hootie]

I never said he's better than Jamal Charles. I said he's a great weapon back there. I'm 100% sure his numbers are better with Wilson back there. It's a mutual relationship. Put 2008 Larry Johnson back there with Wilson and see what happens. Lynch is not "made" by Wilson, he's had the same talent he's always had... even with Matt Hasselbeck at QB.

It depends. Larry was always kind of a pussy when it came to getting past the front line. For a big guy, he was never, ever a power back. Back when Priest was getting 2/3 of the work in 2005 was the only time I ever saw Larry run ANGRY. Like, attack the LOS. After that? He was always best when he got to the 2nd level. 2008 Larry would have been pretty effective in a read option system.

I don't think Lynch is back with Seattle in 2015. I think whoever gets the lead back role probably puts up Marshawn Lynch numbers for Seattle in 2015.

In baseball terms, what is Lynch's WAR? 0.5? Is Seattle a half win better with Lynch than without Lynch?

I honestly don't know. I just don't think he means that much to that team.

[tk13]

What's funny is I don't think any of Seattle's offensive players are that important with the way their defense plays. Alex Smith could win a Super Bowl with this defense. When 10 points wins you a game, you're going to be tough to beat.

[Hootie]

I do know that Russell has worse WR's than Alex Smith and Russell still seems to get the job done. It would be fucking nice if someone could teach Alex Smith how to throw on the run.

[Deberg_1990]

Lindley

18/44 for 216. 0 TDs and 1 int

A Smith OWNS Lindley!

[Hootie]

What's funny is I don't think any of Seattle's offensive players are that important with the way their defense plays. Alex Smith could win a Super Bowl with this defense.

that's bullshit, man

The stat sheet doesn't do Russell Wilson justice. He's an elite NFL QB. Elite.

It's so tiring listening to people try and tear him down by saying "Lynch this, Lynch that, defense this, defense that!!"

Tom fucking Brady won 3 Super Bowl's with an elite defense and he's been getting passes ever since as being "Mr. Clutch" and "a postseason God."

I can't take this board when it comes to QB's. It hurts my head.

[tk13]

Over the last five games, Seattle's defense has allowed 6.6 points and 188 yards a game.

[ILChief]

I'm glad we drafted donald stephenson

[listopencil]

When the sideline lady asked Cam Chancellor to start talking just now, did anyone other than me imagine him looking into the camera and going, "I am Groot."

[Hootie]

I might take Russell Wilson over any single QB for the 2014 postseason. It's either Wilson or Rodgers. For me, it's a toss up. Brady and Manning won't be able to beat a pass rush. Rodgers struggles against a rush as well.

Russell will be the only guy in the postseason that can win a game under any circumstance. He can win in the pocket, he can win running the ball, he can win scrambling around and buying time with his feet ...

Luck fucks up too much. I think Indy is 1 and done this year.

I can honestly say I think the two best NFL QB's in this year's postseason will be Rodgers and Wilson. Peyton looks ... old and Tom can't handle a pass rush.

[tk13]

that's bullshit, man

The stat sheet doesn't do Russell Wilson justice. He's an elite NFL QB. Elite.

It's so tiring listening to people try and tear him down by saying "Lynch this, Lynch that, defense this, defense that!!"

Tom ****ing Brady won 3 Super Bowl's with an elite defense and he's been getting passes ever since as being "Mr. Clutch" and "a postseason God."

I can't take this board when it comes to QB's. It hurts my head.

I don't know why you're arguing that with me. I think defense is just important as the offense. Doesn't matter if it's Brady, Manning, Rodgers. Elite QB's can't win a title by themselves. None of them. I've never wavered from that idea, and certainly not watching this Seattle team. I don't believe Wilson is as good a QB as Manning, and he obliterated him in the Super Bowl last year.

[Hootie]

Over the last five games, Seattle's defense has allowed 6.6 points and 188 yards a game.

against

Stanton
Kaepernick (X2)
Sanchez
Lindley

so 4 of those games came against Arizona who has lost their QB and their version of Jamaal Charles and San Fran, who has a locker room that hates their head coach and a coordinator that refuses to call the only play Kaepernick excels at running ... the same play that Russell Wilson repeatedly rapes the NFL with

yes, very impressive defense

but the Chiefs had a pretty good run of defense in 2013 facing QB's like that

so uh, yeah

[Hootie]

I'm interested in seeing Manning tomorrow night. If he struggles again and looks bad, again, Denver is done. I need to see something out of him. He has looked very ordinary the last 5 weeks or so

[Hammock Parties]

I might take Russell Wilson over any single QB for the 2014 postseason. It's either Wilson or Rodgers. For me, it's a toss up. Brady and Manning won't be able to beat a pass rush. Rodgers struggles against a rush as well.

Russell will be the only guy in the postseason that can win a game under any circumstance. He can win in the pocket, he can win running the ball, he can win scrambling around and buying time with his feet ...

Luck fucks up too much. I think Indy is 1 and done this year.

I can honestly say I think the two best NFL QB's in this year's postseason will be Rodgers and Wilson. Peyton looks ... old and Tom can't handle a pass rush.

Don't forget about the Rapist.

I still say the Steelers are a huge threat.

[tk13]

It doesn't matter who the QBs were... and they played some very good offensive coaches in Arians and Chip Kelly. You hold NFL offenses to those numbers, that's an accomplishment.

I'm right on board with you with Manning. I think it's the story no one is talking about. His arm has looked shot for a month. But their defense and running game has been doing a good job. It might be able to carry them through the AFC.

[Hootie]

the Steelers are only a threat because the AFC is that wide open

the Steelers are not that good. They can't defend the pass, at all.

I'd love to see a NE/Den AFCCG just because I'd love to see it one more time ... but I could see anyone getting through the AFC ... the Pats almost lost to the Jets today.

Both Tom and Peyton get beat in cold weather playoff games like clockwork now.

Luck looks awful, and has looked awful, for about 6 weeks now.

Shit. Cincinnati might make it if Jeremy Hill keeps running like crazy. Maybe Pitt, sure. Maybe fucking Baltimore because apparently Joe Flacco transforms from terrible dick face QB in the regular season to having a damn shamrock up his butthole.

But yeah.

NFC?

I'd be stunned if it wasn't one of the top 3 seeds (assuming it's Seattle / GB / Dal). And I think Seattle is basically a lock if I had to guess. They are just the most complete team and if the defense has a bad day I think Russell is capable of putting in that beast mode performance especially when it's playoff football and he's allowed to run whenever he wants.

[Joe Seahawk]

Holy crap, my Hawks were awesome tonight 600 yards against the cards is no joke.

[GloryDayz]

Holy crap, my Hawks were awesome tonight 600 yards against the cards is no joke.
Just beat Denver!