John Dorsey at the Senior Bowl

[penbrook]

Per Terez Paylor

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey staring intently at the OL during 1on1s.

I've been informed that Chiefs coach Andy Reid is not in Mobile this year for the Senior Bowl. Not sure why.

[kepp]

Hopefully that's just because the WRs haven't started their workouts yet.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Hopefully that's just because the WRs haven't started their workouts yet.

Maybe he's just really into big dudes...NNTAWWT...

[dj56dt58]

Per Terez Paylor

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey staring intently at the OL during 1on1s.

I've been informed that Chiefs coach Andy Reid is not in Mobile this year for the Senior Bowl. Not sure why.

Andy Reid and mobile don't really go together

[Mr. Laz]

Why wouldn't Reid be there?

[Direckshun]

Andy Reid and mobile don't really go together

LMAO

[Brock]

Get ready for fisher back to rt

[saphojunkie]

Get ready for fisher back to rt

We should reach for Jake Fisher from Oregon so we don't have to worry about which OT we're talking about when we scream at the TV.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

WE NEED TO BUILD THAT DAMN LINE AND BUILD IT GOOD !!!!

[keg in kc]

Oh Jesus it's my joke from years ago coming to life, the true fan gm drafting a left tackle every year and just cycling them down the line.

[TribalElder]

Dorsey overvalues sr bowl and east west shrine game

[KC native]

There is some decent mid-round OL talent out there. Let's hope he is watching them.

[The Franchise]

Oh Jesus it's my joke from years ago coming to life, the true fan gm drafting a left tackle every year and just cycling them down the line.

Fisher to LG.

[Direckshun]

There's absolutely no chance they move Fisher this year from LT.

If you think they might, please announce yourself so I can place you on ignore for the remainder of my life.

[ILChief]

Tyler bray tore his ACL

[Red Dawg]

We need OL just as bad. Not surprising.

[Rausch]

Get ready for fisher back to rt

Well, he's clearly not a LT...

[Reerun_KC]

Tyler bray tore his ACL

No one really cares about Tyler Bray....

Milkman has a better shot at starting for the Chiefs at QB than Bray does...

[Bowser]

There's absolutely no chance they move Fisher this year from LT.

If you think they might, please announce yourself so I can place you on ignore for the remainder of my life.

I'm not saying they will move him, but I'm repping your comment so I can easily dig it up if and when it happens.

[Direckshun]

I'm not saying they will move him, but I'm repping your comment so I can easily dig it up if and when it happens.

And I'm going rep YOUR comment to dig it up if and when it DOESN'T happen.

THEN WE WILL HAVE IT OUT IN THE OCTOGON

TWO MEN ENTER

ONE MAN LEAVES

[Bowser]

And I'm going rep YOUR comment to dig it up if and when it DOESN'T happen.

THEN WE WILL HAVE IT OUT IN THE OCTOGON

TWO MEN ENTER

ONE MAN LEAVES

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mma-double-knockout.gif

[ModSocks]

This is the 1st year in a long, long time that i wouldn't mind an 1st round O/L.

Our Oline is every bit as bad as our receivers.

[BigMeatballDave]

There's absolutely no chance they move Fisher this year from LT.

If you think they might, please announce yourself so I can place you on ignore for the remainder of my life.

LOL

[BigMeatballDave]

Well, he's clearly not a LT...

Yeah, One season is clearly enough time to confirm this...

[BigMeatballDave]

This is the 1st year in a long, long time that i wouldn't mind an 1st round O/L.

Our Oline is every bit as bad as our receivers.

Ugh, no. 3rd round or later, please.

[DaneMcCloud]

Trading or cutting Fisher would leave $8.5 million in dead money in 2015 and cost them $2.5 million against the cap. He's not going anywhere.

[Direckshun]

Double negative! Dane left the door open!

"Uh, I do believe I said he's NOT going NOwhere, which clearly means I anticipated him getting traded."

[mdchiefsfan]

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mma-double-knockout.gif

The ref cracks me up LMAO

I guess the winner is the guy with his hands in the air horizontally. He looks like he thought he won... subconsciously.

[DaneMcCloud]

Double negative! Dane left the door open!

"Uh, I do believe I said he's NOT going NOwhere, which clearly means I anticipated him getting traded."

LMAO

Fixed

[Direckshun]

LMAO

[Red Dawg]

This is the 1st year in a long, long time that i wouldn't mind an 1st round O/L.

Our Oline is every bit as bad as our receivers.

No doubt but I really hope we get OL help in FA and draft a stud WR or Hundley at QB.

[ModSocks]

Ugh, no. 3rd round or later, please.

The roster is full of 3rd round and laters.

[Rausch]

Yeah, One season is clearly enough time to confirm this...

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...

[bevischief]

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...

Bench warmer...

[TimBone]

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...
Reerun and Inmen would like the Chiefs to try him at DC over Sutton.

[Chromatic]

Why wouldn't Reid be there?

Because they generally have to put heavy cargo in the back of the plane. If its not secured properly, could lead to incidents like this

http://i.imgur.com/pKHwbOp.gif

[bevischief]

Because they generally have to put heavy cargo in the back of the plane. If its not secured properly, could lead to incidents like this

http://i.imgur.com/pKHwbOp.gif

ROFL

[RealSNR]

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...

I thought he improved as a LT.

Fisher's rookie year was the worst I've ever seen a starting NFL tackle play in my entire life. He was worse than Barry Richardson.

[booger]

Reid isn't there or whole coaching staff isn't there? Get off yer ass and dig Perez

[BigMeatballDave]

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...

:facepalm: Read my fucking post again.

[BigMeatballDave]

Giving up on Fisher now is beyond stupid.

Seriously. 1 season is enough? Dumb.

Actually, this notion is as dumb as drafting him at 1.1.

[BigMeatballDave]

Reerun and Inmen would like the Chiefs to try him at DC over Sutton.

LMAO Dumbasses

[GloryDayz]

Dorsey looks happy to be with other seniors....

https://citizenmiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/old-folks-fun1.jpg

[booger]

Dorsey looks happy to be with other seniors....

https://citizenmiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/old-folks-fun1.jpg

Thanks for reminding me I got shirts to iron and I really need to throw that sour milk out

[Rausch]

Giving up on Fisher now is beyond stupid.

Seriously. 1 season is enough? Dumb.

Actually, this notion is as dumb as drafting him at 1.1.

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Drooling over fatties.

Oh yes, I'm shocked.

[RealSNR]

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

Cameron Wake Dolphins game?

[BigMeatballDave]

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

Remind me where I said anything like that.

[RunKC]

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

Vs Oakland at Arrowhead he made Khalil Mack his bitch.

He also played very well vs the Seahawks, Cardinals and Jets.

[jonzie04]

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

patriots game.... he whipped Chandler Jones' ass . he did give up an early sack but he dominated him in the run game and didn't allow anymore pressures after that first one.

[Mr. Laz]

Vs Oakland at Arrowhead he made Khalil Mack his bitch.

He also played very well vs the Seahawks, Cardinals and Jets.

i believe he played well against dumbervil as well


didn't he more or less shut out J.J. Watt at some point?


i think the book on Fisher is basically that he's good against speed and mediocre against power.

[Nightfyre]

I recall Fisher having at least one good game against Denver.

[ThaVirus]

I recall Fisher having at least one good game against Denver.


He's been known to make Von Miller his bitch. He didn't get that opportunity often after switching to LT, though. IIRC, he mostly got abused by Ware.

[DMAC]

There's absolutely no chance they move Fisher this year from LT.

If you think they might, please announce yourself so I can place you on ignore for the remainder of my life.

Tempting...

[Mr. Laz]

He's been known to make Von Miller his bitch. He didn't get that opportunity often after switching to LT, though. IIRC, he mostly got abused by Ware.

ya, that was it

i think dumbervil was hurt or something and he shutdown Von Miller.

[ChiTown]

There's absolutely no chance they move Fisher this year from LT.

If you think they might, please announce yourself so I can place you on ignore for the remainder of my life.

IN

[Rausch]

Fisher was bad most of the year and terrible in half his games at LT.

At least at RT he had a few games he looked respectable.

[RunKC]

i believe he played well against dumbervil as well


didn't he more or less shut out J.J. Watt at some point?


i think the book on Fisher is basically that he's good against speed and mediocre against power.

That's why I'd like to see what he looks like next year when he's had a full offseason healthy and in the gym.

Eric Fishers worst games were against DeMarcus Ware, Robert Quinn and James Harrison and they all beat him with power.

I think putting on 20 lbs and getting much stronger would make him look significantly better, which is why it's foolish for anyone to call him a busy until next season (not saying you did).

[RealSNR]

Fisher was bad most of the year and terrible in half his games at LT.

At least at RT he had a few games he looked respectable.

When?

In 2013, he had perhaps the most atrocious year for a RT that this franchise has ever seen. I'd even say he was worse than Barry Richardson.

In spite of playing next to a sack of dildos all year at LG, the LT version of Fisher was improved in all facets of the game compared to when he was a RT.

If we draft or sign a new guy to be our starting LT, then Fisher just needs to go away. He's not a RT, and he never will be a RT. It's left side or bust with him.

[Rausch]

When?

In 2013, he had perhaps the most atrocious year for a RT that this franchise has ever seen. I'd even say he was worse than Barry Richardson.

In spite of playing next to a sack of dildos all year at LG, the LT version of Fisher was improved in all facets of the game compared to when he was a RT.

If we draft or sign a new guy to be our starting LT, then Fisher just needs to go away. He's not a RT, and he never will be a RT. It's left side or bust with him.

If that's true he's a bust.

He wasn't respectable this year...

[RealSNR]

If that's true he's a bust.



He wasn't respectable this year...


I wouldn't call him good, but I could see him being adequate by his 3rd year.

Think of him as Dorsey's own version of Tyson Jackson

[Rausch]

I wouldn't call him good, but I could see him being adequate by his 3rd year.

Think of him as Dorsey's own version of Tyson Jackson

That's pretty much exactly how I think of him...

[Mr. Laz]

That's why I'd like to see what he looks like next year when he's had a full offseason healthy and in the gym.

Eric Fishers worst games were against DeMarcus Ware, Robert Quinn and James Harrison and they all beat him with power.

I think putting on 20 lbs and getting much stronger would make him look significantly better, which is why it's foolish for anyone to call him a busy until next season (not saying you did).

Fisher has yet to really participate in a training camp or have a full offseason of working out etc.

1st season -

no real training camp(injured)
small school type project guy
moved to RT
played with injured shoulder all year
sport hernia late

2nd season-

2 offseason surgeries
no training camp (see above)
hasn't lifted in probably 18 months(see above)
moved to LT
still a small school guy jumping up in talent level and starting in the NFL


should Fisher have been selected 1.1? Absolutely not.

was there bad luck and mishandling of Fisher? Absolutely.

Chiefs should have never had Fisher play that first season with the injury. They should put him on IR and had the surgery immediately. Then he could have attended training camp,offseason programs and been stronger, better for it.

If he sucks in his 3rd year then it's time to move him or just cut him.

[Rausch]

should Fisher have been selected 1.1? Absolutely not.

was there bad luck and mishandling of Fisher? Absolutely.

Chiefs should have never had Fisher play that first season with the injury. They should put him on IR and had the surgery immediately. Then he could have attended training camp,offseason programs and been stronger, better for it.

If he sucks in his 3rd year then it's time to move him or just cut him.

We shouldn't compound one mistake by making two more.

If we spend money anywhere it needs to be WR and OL.

Really, the O line. Drafting a guy means more learning on the job. Sign a solid LT and G. Draft a WR or two and bring them in more and more as they're ready.

If Fisher legitimately beats our LT out in camp then great. Our RT isn't all that good anyway.

We absolutely should not just give a man who's failed twice a position and hope he's bitten by a radioactive spider in the off season...

[Mr. Laz]

We shouldn't compound one mistake by making two more.

If we spend money anywhere it needs to be WR and OL.

Really, the O line. Drafting a guy means more learning on the job. Sign a solid LT and G. Draft a WR or two and bring them in more and more as they're ready.

If Fisher legitimately beats our LT out in camp then great. Our RT isn't all that good anyway.

We absolutely should not just give a man who's failed twice a position and hope he's bitten by a radioactive spider in the off season...
nice that you cut out all the pertinent information LMAO

competition is fine and a GM should strive to have options has EVERY position but the overreaction about Fisher is borderline obscene.

Not only has he not been as bad as some people say, if you take into consideration all the variables, he has been pretty decent.

[Brock]

That's why I'd like to see what he looks like next year when he's had a full offseason healthy and in the gym.

Eric Fishers worst games were against DeMarcus Ware, Robert Quinn and James Harrison and they all beat him with power.

I think putting on 20 lbs and getting much stronger would make him look significantly better, which is why it's foolish for anyone to call him a busy until next season (not saying you did).

He was embarrassed by dwight freeney. He can't deal with speed rushers either.

[Mr. Laz]

He was embarrassed by dwight freeney. He can't deal with speed rushers either.

bullshit


i think he got beaten once or twice all game by freeney


unfortunately it happened late in the game and right after a false start so people started tripping

[Rausch]

Not only has he not been as bad as some people say, if you take into consideration all the variables, he has been pretty decent.

No, he hasn't.

Not giving up a sack doesn't equal decent. He's consistently getting beat.

This year he looks a lot better because $3itbags like McGloin were giving up sacks/pressures faster...

[RunKC]

Fisher has yet to really participate in a training camp or have a full offseason of working out etc.

1st season -

no real training camp(injured)
small school type project guy
moved to RT
played with injured shoulder all year
sport hernia late

2nd season-

2 offseason surgeries
no training camp (see above)
hasn't lifted in probably 18 months(see above)
moved to LT
still a small school guy jumping up in talent level and starting in the NFL


should Fisher have been selected 1.1? Absolutely not.

was there bad luck and mishandling of Fisher? Absolutely.

Chiefs should have never had Fisher play that first season with the injury. They should put him on IR and had the surgery immediately. Then he could have attended training camp,offseason programs and been stronger, better for it.

If he sucks in his 3rd year then it's time to move him or just cut him.

I agree

[DaneMcCloud]

No, he hasn't.

Not giving up a sack doesn't equal decent. He's consistently getting beat.

This year he looks a lot better because $3itbags like McGloin were giving up sacks/pressures faster...

You and I were watching different players.

Does Fisher need to improve? Absolutely. He needs serious work in the weight room to strengthen his upper body. But he's got good footwork, good hands and moves well. He played very well against some of the best defensive players in the league when facing the Jets, Rams, Broncos, etc.

2015 is a critical year for him because if he doesn't show improvement, it's likely the Chiefs move on from him in 2016. But he's got the frame, smarts and footwork to become a very good left tackle.

[Deberg_1990]

should Fisher have been selected 1.1? Absolutely not.



Who should have been selected 1 then? 32 teams in the same position would have selected Joeckel or Fisher at number #1.


Chiefs bad luck that it was a epic bad draft for talent.

None of the top 12 players picked have even made a Pro Bowl yet.

[Mr. Laz]

Who should have been selected 1 then? 32 teams in the same position would have selected Joeckel or Fisher at number #1.


Chiefs bad luck that it was a epic bad draft for talent.

not the point, i wasn't talking about who/what/where

It was more a statement about Fisher not really being 1.1 talent.

Going forward that no longer really matters other than his salary.

Is Fisher as terrible as the mob around here claims? He's really not, considering all the issues he's been a solid guy.

3rd year is normally the improvement year for players and hopefully Fisher is not exception.

Hopefully Fisher is healthy,stronger and much improved in his 3rd season so we don't have to worry about it anymore.

[Deberg_1990]

not the point, i wasn't talking about who/what/where

It was more a statement about Fisher not really being 1.1 talent.

Going forward that no longer really matters other than his salary.

Is Fisher as terrible as the mob around here claims? He's really not, considering all the issues he's been a solid guy.

3rd year is normally the improvement year for players and hopefully Fisher is not exception.

Hopefully Fisher is healthy,stronger and much improved in his 3rd season so we don't have to worry about it anymore.


I agree, hes probably not a 1.1 talent. In a stronger draft, he might have been picked around #10-13. My argument is the Chiefs had to select somebody at #1.

[Mr. Laz]

I agree, hes probably not a 1.1 talent. In a stronger draft, he might have been picked around #10-13. My argument is the Chiefs had to select somebody at #1.

agreed.

I really wasn't trying to go down the draft value road.

[kccrow]

Chiefs need to get better at LG, RG, and RT for sure. I'm willing to give Fisher another year at LT to prove his worth.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wouldn't call him good, but I could see him being adequate by his 3rd year.

Think of him as Dorsey's own version of Tyson Jackson

I think of him as Reid's own version of Tyson Jackson.

In fact, I think of Fisher/Smith as Reid's own version of Jackson/Cassel.

If Reid is "conspicuously absent" from more of these events, we might actually get something the fuck done around here for once.

[RealSNR]

I didn't think anyone hated Eric Fisher more than I did.

Then Rausch showed up.

For crying out loud, I at least think he'll be an adequate-to-good starter at LT. I also didn't think he was god awful this past season. His rookie year, different story. Like I said, he was easily a worse RT than Barry Richardson. But in 2014 he at least wasn't putrid.

[Rausch]

You and I were watching different players.

Does Fisher need to improve? Absolutely. He needs serious work in the weight room to strengthen his upper body. But he's got good footwork, good hands and moves well. He played very well against some of the best defensive players in the league when facing the Jets, Rams, Broncos, etc.

2015 is a critical year for him because if he doesn't show improvement, it's likely the Chiefs move on from him in 2016. But he's got the frame, smarts and footwork to become a very good left tackle.

He played like $#it in the Rams game. We won despite the play of our line...

[Rausch]

I didn't think anyone hated Eric Fisher more than I did.

Then Rausch showed up.

For crying out loud, I at least think he'll be an adequate-to-good starter at LT. I also didn't think he was god awful this past season. His rookie year, different story. Like I said, he was easily a worse RT than Barry Richardson. But in 2014 he at least wasn't putrid.

Lets say I agree with you - we still need to add talent at the position. Competition and a respectable fill in should he once again put up below average play.

Not in the first round - but a respectable vet.

I agree with others that if there's a playmaking WR in the 1st we need to target him. I haven't liked what little I've read but even if we have to trade up a few slots it'd be worth it. We have picks to move this year...

[GloryDayz]

Remind me the game where he showed flashes by playing solid vs. a top pass rusher...

But our balls were fully inflated, and that puts the LT at a huge disadvantage!

[DaneMcCloud]

He played like $#it in the Rams game. We won despite the play of our line...

LMAO

The Chiefs scored 34 points. The Ram scored 7.

Man, they were lucky.

[DTLB58]

He sucked at RT and sucked even worse at LT.

Where else would you like to try him?...

RT for the Donkies so Houston can abuse him every year. :D

[Baby Lee]

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mma-double-knockout.gif

Life is unfairrrrrr!!!

http://www.dualmoments.com/MalcolmCanadaCubaweb.jpg

[Scooter LaCanforno]

i believe he played well against dumbervil as well


didn't he more or less shut out J.J. Watt at some point?


i think the book on Fisher is basically that he's good against speed and mediocre against power.

He has problems with the inside Swim Move and inside rushes.

[ping2000]

Fisher will put on 20 pounds in the offseason and then fail his drug test for steroids. Because . . .

[milkman]

I am going to be completely honest here, Raush.

You, my friend, on this topic, are an utter fucking moron.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"Salvaging the shitty pick; a guide to Chiefs drafting through the years".

Available now at Amazon.com

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Dorsey overvalues sr bowl and east west shrine game
Link?

[the Talking Can]

I am going to be completely honest here, Raush.

You, my friend, on this topic, are an utter ****ing moron.

http://oi48.tinypic.com/msyslk.jpg

[aturnis]

I thought he improved as a LT.

Fisher's rookie year was the worst I've ever seen a starting NFL tackle play in my entire life. He was worse than Barry Richardson.

Stoned Von Miller in our second game against Denver his rookie year.

[Rausch]

I am going to be completely honest here, Raush.

You, my friend, on this topic, are an utter ****ing moron.

No, I'm not.

He's beaten every way possible. Speed, bull, swim, you name it.

He's $3it.

He's sucked balls and been in the lowest rated (bottom 10) Right and Left tackles in the league for two years by more than just the GoChiefs jerk statisticians.

He was drafted the same year as Geno Smith and EJ Manuel and people think a fucking LT deserves more time to "develop" than a fucking QB...

[Dave Lane]

Per Terez Paylor

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey staring intently at the OL during 1on1s.

I've been informed that Chiefs coach Andy Reid is not in Mobile this year for the Senior Bowl. Not sure why.

He also didn't go visit Eric Berry in the hospital. Clark and Dorsey did. Interesting.

[Rausch]

He also didn't go visit Eric Berry in the hospital.

That's not excusable...

[CoMoChief]

Fisher did not have a good season folks.

Better than 2013? For sure. But he was at the point where the only way to go was up...that's how bad he was.

He's improved a little...but he still sucks. He's going to go down as one of the worst Chiefs 1st rd picks of all time unless he flips a switch an all of a sudden becomes this pro bowl level tackle....I dont see that happening but you never know.

[The Franchise]

I'd be interested to see how much he improves with a quality LG next to him.

[Rausch]

Fisher did not have a good season folks.

Better than 2013? For sure. But he was at the point where the only way to go was up...that's how bad he was.

He's improved a little...but he still sucks. He's going to go down as one of the worst Chiefs 1st rd picks of all time unless he flips a switch an all of a sudden becomes this pro bowl level tackle....I dont see that happening but you never know.

And this mediocre improvement is mostly due to having the worst (by far) guards in the fucking league.

Kind of how Smith looked like a legit No 1 CB with the scrub-fill-in-of-the-week opposite him...

[BigMeatballDave]

Kind of how Smith looked like a legit No 1 CB with the scrub-fill-in-of-the-week opposite him...

Smith had a very good season. That's a fact. Even Clay's holy scripture says so.

Unless you didn't watch any games. No QB threw for 300 yards. That wasn't by mistake.

[BigMeatballDave]

I'd be interested to see how much he improves with a quality LG next to him.

Yep.

But he's got to gain some strength.

[The Franchise]

Yep.

But he's got to gain some strength.

Most definitely. That's all he should be working on this offseason.

[BigMeatballDave]

No, I'm not.

He's beaten every way possible. Speed, bull, swim, you name it.

He's $3it.

He's sucked balls and been in the lowest rated (bottom 10) Right and Left tackles in the league for two years by more than just the GoChiefs jerk statisticians.

He was drafted the same year as Geno Smith and EJ Manuel and people think a fucking LT deserves more time to "develop" than a fucking QB...

2 years, and with injury, isn't developing.

[BigMeatballDave]

Most definitely. That's all he should be working on this offseason.

I guess we'll see what kind of work ethic the kid has.

This is his final shot with me. If he stinks this fall, he's practice squad fodder.

[Rausch]

2 years, and with injury, isn't developing.

Sounds like a damned good reason to come up with a back up plan to me...

[O.city]

Sounds like a damned good reason to come up with a back up plan to me...

So do what they did with Tamba last year and Ford?

[Rausch]

So do what they did with Tamba last year and Ford?

Yeah.

Only now they do it with players that suck and not players they target due to cap cost...

[O.city]

Yeah.

Only now they do it with players that suck and not players they target due to cap cost...

So do what you bitched and hated them doing, again, now you're in favor of it?

Players can improve. Especially young ones like Fisher. If he doesn't, he doesn't. But with the coaching staff we have now, I wouldn't be surprised to see him be better next year.

[Rausch]

So do what you bitched and hated them doing, again, now you're in favor of it?

No, Dorsey drafted players that DIDN'T need to be replaced but he hated their cap number.

Players can improve. Especially young ones like Fisher. If he doesn't, he doesn't. But with the coaching staff we have now, I wouldn't be surprised to see him be better next year.

And what I said was that we shouldn't DEPEND on that.

We should sign another respectable vet to push/replace him.

Right now - tell me - in what way is Dorsey different than Pissholi?...

[Mr. Laz]

Fisher did not have a good season folks.

Better than 2013? For sure. But he was at the point where the only way to go was up...that's how bad he was.

He's improved a little...but he still sucks. He's going to go down as one of the worst Chiefs 1st rd picks of all time unless he flips a switch an all of a sudden becomes this pro bowl level tackle....I dont see that happening but you never know.

welp, that seals it.


Fisher to the pro bowl next year

[Mr. Laz]

Yep.

But he's got to gain some strength.

a lot of strength

dude is weak sauce


didn't get to work upper body for almost his first 2 years in the NFL though ...

[Rausch]

welp, that seals it.


Fisher to the pro bowl next year

LMAO

[Nightfyre]

Yeah.

Only now they do it with players that suck and not players they target due to cap cost...

They weren't targeting Hali because of his cap cost. They were targeting him because he had clearly lost a step and because he is a surefire cap casualty.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"Flashes" aren't important in the case of Fissure. He will never be a super star. Upgrading from "pure dogshit" to "serviceable" however, would be a nice return on a shitty investment at this point.

[TribalElder]

Doyle with a hurdle

Alex needs moar tight ends

[TribalElder]

Dorsey fapping
49 yard fg
Obarsky in the first

[KCrockaholic]

David Johnson looks very nice running, but that South OL is just dominating for him.

[The Franchise]

Well....don't draft Warford.....he just dropped the ball.

[OldSchool]

Prewitt is looking really good out there.

[RunKC]

2 years, and with injury, isn't developing.

Holy shit is this post serious?

[KChiefs1]

Lockett would look good in a Chiefs uni.

[TribalElder]

Nice play by the nickel corner from Texas

[OldSchool]

Apparently Cairos Santos was also invited to the Senior Bowl.

[KCrockaholic]

Sign a FA WR to be either the #2 or #3 after letting Bowe go. Then draft a WR 1st round. And another one later on. Work with Albert Wilson and DAT.

Everyone else can go. Hemingway can stay for ST. The rest can go