****Official KU @ TT Game Thread****

[Buehler445]

This is one of the ones they should win. Need to come out sharp. TT is better and they've beat some good teams.

[Reerun_KC]

Buehler_445. I love you. I am so gay for you. You big beastly man.

[Ceej]

Take care of business.

[Buehler445]

Buehler_445. I love you. I am so gay for you. You big beastly man.

How you been man?

[Meatloaf]

Ummmm, Cliff's passes seem a bit high?!?

[Buehler445]

Man, Big Cliff just refuses to beat someone one-on-one in the post.

[Buehler445]

Ummmm, Cliff's passes seem a bit high?!?

Juuuuuust a bit outside.

http://www.vervesplash.net/uploads/4/5/3/0/4530896/1401291639.jpg

[Meatloaf]

Juuuuuust a bit outside.

http://www.vervesplash.net/uploads/4/5/3/0/4530896/1401291639.jpg

Nice.

[Buehler445]

At least there is some hustle. It's ugly, and TT is successfully mucking up the game, but at least they're fighting.

[Meatloaf]

The good news in Cliff's play is that he's VERY likely to be back with KU next year! No way he's a one-and-done.

[Ceej]

Poor kid caught on national TV picking and eating a booger.

[Meatloaf]

Ellis nicely active in this game.

[Buehler445]

I gotta hand it to Tubby Smith. This team is far better than what they've had there since Bobby Knight left. The score isn't good, but this team is actually competitive.

[Meatloaf]

Tubby know what he's doing. Solid coach.

[Buehler445]

The good news in Cliff's play is that he's VERY likely to be back with KU next year! No way he's a one-and-done.

Eh. I thought the same thing about Julian Wright. Dude could run. End. He couldn't shoot outside 15', he was scrawny as fuck, and was a turnover machine in the open court. Drafted first round.

[Meatloaf]

Eh. I thought the same thing about Julian Wright. Dude could run. End. He couldn't shoot outside 15', he was scrawny as ****, and was a turnover machine in the open court. Drafted first round.

I just don't see it, as I don't see tons of basketball sense. Kinda heavy footed plus what position would he play? Way too small for a center and doesn't shoot well enough for a power guy. However, you're probably right, First Round! :D

[O.city]

Eh. I thought the same thing about Julian Wright. Dude could run. End. He couldn't shoot outside 15', he was scrawny as ****, and was a turnover machine in the open court. Drafted first round.

Cliff can't run, but he's defended better. He just needs strength and coaching

[Buehler445]

Cliff is putting together a hell of a game.

[O.city]

Traylor is maddening

[Buehler445]

Fuck. Head in ass time. Yay!

[Meatloaf]

TT making a few prayers. Need to answer.

[O.city]

Every possesions someone different does something stupid.

It's comical to watch

[Ceej]

The women's wind up shot from a guy who just made his second three of the year.

[KC_Connection]

Traylor is maddening
Taken a massive step back as a player this year...even more than Selden. Very odd.

[Buehler445]

Traylor is maddening

He must have a rep among officials for moving screens. No way does he set THAT MANY more moving screens than anybody else.

[Buehler445]

Annnnnd Cliff gets lost.

[Meatloaf]

I'm afraid the game is still too fast for Cliff.

[Buehler445]

God I hate the head in ass stretch of basketball this team throws out every game.

[Meatloaf]

Announcer is right. KU is very sloppy tonight. Gotta tighten things up.

[O.city]

Mason is the only guy that can out it on the floor and score.

Ellis I guess.

Selden and Oubre should live in the lane

[Ceej]

Pretty blatant make up call against Svi there.

[Meatloaf]

Pretty blatant make up call against Svi there.

Yup, totally obvious give back.

[Buehler445]

Yup, totally obvious give back.

At least it wasn't a big minutes guy.

[Meatloaf]

This team plays like a bunch o' junkyard dogs. U-G-L-Y.

[O.city]

Selden has made a couple 3s, don't expect him to put it on the floor anytime soon.

[KC_Connection]

Selden has made a couple 3s, don't expect him to put it on the floor anytime soon.
Considering he's a horrific offensive player inside the arc (shooting nearly 30%), I wouldn't want him to.

[KC_Connection]

Pretty blatant make up call against Svi there.
Just make the right call in the first place and it doesn't have to come to that. Bad refereeing as usual.

[Buehler445]

Selden has made a couple 3s, don't expect him to put it on the floor anytime soon.

He already has. At least once.

[KC_Connection]

Never dribble the ball Selden. Only bad things happen

[Ceej]

Greene not playing much tonight.

Surprised to see Svi out there.

[Al Czervik]

LLBIQ for this team....

[Ceej]

This is embarrasingly ugly.

[KCFalcon59]

Just horrible basketball all around.

[Buehler445]

Its a good thing they cant shoot either.

[Reerun_KC]

How you been man?
In cabo tonight. Recording game.

[Meatloaf]

That is truly some ugly bball.

[O.city]

He already has. At least once.

Didn't work out very well either

[KC_Connection]

This is embarrasingly ugly.
Exactly the kind of game TTU needs in order to win.

[KC_Connection]

I don't even want to think about what this team would look like if Frank Mason wasn't on it and playing at a high level.

[O.city]

Play zone, play slow, etc.

Brutal

[Chiefs Pantalones]

We're winning the conference again, but I'll be shocked if we make it to the second weekend of the NCAA Tournament, and I'm an optimist. Next year's team is setting up to be beastly though when you think about it.

[Buehler445]

In cabo tonight. Recording game.

Are you ever NOT on vacation?

[Reerun_KC]

Are you ever NOT on vacation?
Working actually. Well we have an O 9 am depart. Have way to hammered right now.

[Hootie]

I'll tell you what ... if Self can get this team to an Elite 8 he really pulled a rabbit out of his asshole

[Reerun_KC]

I'll tell you what ... if Self can get this team to an Elite 8 he really pulled a rabbit out of his asshole
Not a fuckjng chance.

[TambaBerry]

Please change the shot clock. This is starting to get unwatchable. Tech holds the ball for 20 seconds before doing anything.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Not a ****jng chance.

If we get some good matchups we could. Anything is possible. But I'm not feeling it which means we'll likely win another national title lol. Self is a great coach.

[KC_Connection]

I'll tell you what ... if Self can get this team to an Elite 8 he really pulled a rabbit out of his asshole
Call them soft or finesse, but it's completely unlike any Self group before at KU. Might be time to just embrace the 3.

[Meatloaf]

I'll tell you what ... if Self can get this team to an Elite 8 he really pulled a rabbit out of his asshole

Remind me to not eat that rabbit.

[KC_Connection]

Please change the shot clock. This is starting to get unwatchable. Tech holds the ball for 20 seconds before doing anything.
Yeah, it's brutal. And the amazing thing is that there are 70 teams slower in the country than them still.

NCAA basketball needs fixing.

[Buehler445]

Call them soft or finesse, but it's completely unlike any Self group before at KU. Might be time to just embrace the 3.

I've embraced it. It's what we are. It's how we win.

[Buehler445]

Oh man. That was a hell of a weak call.

[KC_Connection]

I've embraced it. It's what we are. It's how we win.
Self hasn't yet, though. Goes completely counter to his style.

[Reerun_KC]

Need more tequila

[KC_Connection]

These were blocks earlier in the game. Now apparently they are fouls.

[Meatloaf]

Yup, refs tightening things up a bit.

[Buehler445]

Self hasn't yet, though. Goes completely counter to his style.

I don't hate the looks we get. Normally they're pretty open. We don't jack them just to jack them. We aren't that kind of shooting team.

[Buehler445]

These were blocks earlier in the game. Now apparently they are fouls.

Selden's had a good bit of arm. That's not a bad call. Perry's was a bad call.

[Buehler445]

ROFL @ Gotcher.

Greene. Fuck man. I'm glad I don't have to try to defend that guy.

[KC_Connection]

I don't hate the looks we get. Normally they're pretty open. We don't jack them just to jack them. We aren't that kind of shooting team.
With as bad as they are down low/at 2's, I think they should be taking quite a bit more outside shots than they are. But there's obviously a medium to find there. Because if you start taking them all the time, you're not going to make them at the same efficiency and teams will start guarding them differently as well.

[KC_Connection]

Selden's had a good bit of arm. That's not a bad call. Perry's was a bad call.
It's hard to tell these things on my tiny little online stream.

[Meatloaf]

Greene definitely has a pro stroke.....and range. If he'd just sharpen his defense a bit.....plus, he's a bright sons a gun.

[KC_Connection]

Greene definitely has a pro stroke.....and range. If he'd just sharpen his defense a bit.....plus, he's a bright sons a gun.
This year has convinced me he'll be in the NBA. Not sure when, but that league always needs shooters that are as good as him (especially at his size).

[Al Czervik]

Fucking refs are terrible

[Buehler445]

Fucking refs are terrible

Meh. Graham got BURNED. Give him the foul...

[Buehler445]

Let that huge walk go though.

[Buehler445]

OK, yeah. Officials are getting stupid.

[Meatloaf]

This would be a 3 point game if TT could hit free throws.

[Lzen]

Let that huge walk go though.

Ha ha, yeah. I've seen a few of those tonight. Also, TT apparently can't possibly do an illegal screen. :grr:

[Buehler445]

This year has convinced me he'll be in the NBA. Not sure when, but that league always needs shooters that are as good as him (especially at his size).

And that don't change their shot when covered.

[KC_Connection]

This would be a 3 point game if TT could hit free throws.
Or if they played at a higher tempo than one shot every 30 seconds.

[Buehler445]

Christ. Terrible ass rotation. Play good defense for 25 just to give up a wide open 3. Jesus fuck.

[Buehler445]

Or if they played at a higher tempo than one shot every 30 seconds.

It's not always this bad. In the UT game at Lubbock, they were pushing tempo so they didn't have to deal with their big men.

[Meatloaf]

Might need to work on our outlet passes after the game. Just a thought....

[Buehler445]

Damn it, n00b. Pass the ball.

[KC_Connection]

Maybe you should have passed the ball to the wide open Frank, Devonte.

[Meatloaf]

Graham's selfishness cost us a bunny. Stoopid.

[Buehler445]

Might need to work on our outlet passes after the game. Just a thought....

Cliff's I think were nerves. Lucases was asshattery.

[Meatloaf]

Cliff's I think were nerves. Lucases was asshattery.

Hate that asshattery.

[Buehler445]

Lucas damn near chucked it out of bounds again.

[Meatloaf]

Lucas damn near chucked it out of bounds again.

He has a better long ball than Alex.

[Buehler445]

He has a better long ball than Alex.

ROFL

He did make a nice post up play though. That's about the first score from a post up tonight, I believe.

[Meatloaf]

Yup, no low post game doesn't fit with Self's style at all. He's making the most of the least. Great coach.

[Buehler445]

See, Graham, that's how you score in transition. Throw it to the open dude.

[Lzen]

Cliff's I think were nerves. Lucases was asshattery.

Yeah, Cliff was definitely nervous to start the game. He settled down once he got the block party started.

[Al Czervik]

Nice to see them hitting the FT's......

[O.city]

As much as they haven't had a low post game and some of that is obviously from the post players, but the guards don't do a great job with angles

[KC_Connection]

They need to be told to stop throwing shit on the court.

[Buehler445]

They need to be told to stop throwing shit on the court.

Send Marcus Smart in there to do the telling :D

[Meatloaf]

Cliff doesn't shoot the ball. He just dunks it.

[Lzen]

Love seeing Alexander in there making an impact. That one handed dunk was a man's play.

[O.city]

Oubre is likely gone (hopefully not) but everyone else a blend be back.

If cliff stays, he's gonna be a monster

[Buehler445]

Cliff doesn't shoot the ball. He just dunks it.

A week or so he busted out several nice 15 footers from the short corner. I was super surprised. It was really smooth and nice. He doesn't do anything smooth and nice LOL

[Meatloaf]

Love to see that sweat on Cliff. Good sign.

[Buehler445]

Love seeing Alexander in there making an impact. That one handed dunk was a man's play.

Agree. Hopefully the energy is there from here on out.

[Buehler445]

Weird to see Oubre in with the scrubs.

[O.city]

Lucas needs to start getting Traylor minutes

[Buehler445]

Lucas needs to start getting Traylor minutes

Depends. If there is a hoss in there, Lucas is the man. If it's a mobile guy like Niang, Traylor really excels at.

[Meatloaf]

I kinda like Traylor coming in off the bench for an instant energy boost.

[O.city]

It wouldn't surprise me if they return everyone from this team next year.

If they can do that, next year could be really special

[Lzen]

Depends. If there is a hoss in there, Lucas is the man. If it's a mobile guy like Niang, Traylor really excels at.

As long as Traylor isn't having a braindead night. Traylor has taken over the Tharpe role this year. :rolleyes:

[Meatloaf]

That Adams kid looks to be about 5'4".

[Buehler445]

That Adams kid looks to be about 5'4".

Self threw a hell of a move on him...and then throws it away.

[Buehler445]

Good win. I've said all along they need to win the ones they should.

[KC_Connection]

I'll take that deaf Adams kid over Tyler Self any day for blowouts.

[Al Czervik]

As long as Traylor isn't having a braindead night. Traylor has taken over the Tharpe role this year. :rolleyes:

Lzen.....so true....

[Silock]

Selden is now shooting a higher percentage from 3 than he did last year, and averaging the same amount of points. That will go up. He's doing fine.

Ellis also now playing at a high level.

[BWillie]

Self hasn't yet, though. Goes completely counter to his style.

Yeah, ita frustrating sometimes. His style works no doubt, but hes a stubborn son of a bitch. Id like to see him adapt to his talent a little more.

[KC_Connection]

Selden is now shooting a higher percentage from 3 than he did last year, and averaging the same amount of points. That will go up. He's doing fine.

Except for the entire shooting 32% from two thing (leading to declines in ORtg, eFG%, and TS% from last year).


Ellis also now playing at a high level.
Well, it's at least going a hell of a lot better than the nothing he was contributing for a while there.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah, ita frustrating sometimes. His style works no doubt, but hes a stubborn son of a bitch. Id like to see him adapt to his talent a little more.
He's changed it up a bit (the team wouldn't have this kind of record if he didn't), but considering the team's strengths/weaknesses are far different than a normal Self team, it really should be shifted even more.

Have to try to find a way to even further take advantage of the fact that this is one of the best 3PT shooting teams in the country.

[Silock]

He'll be fine.

[KC_Connection]

He'll be fine.
Oh, I'm sure Selden isn't too worried.

[Silock]

He's improving, which is all we can really ask.

[KC_Connection]

He's improving, which is all we can really ask.
He's certainly improving at hitting threes. The rest...

[BWillie]

He's certainly improving at hitting threes. The rest...

Yeah that is my worry, Selden is still HORRIBLE at finishing in the lane. Taking into account his size and vertical leap, it's very puzzling. If he could develop a floater or some more coordination in the lane, he would be a really good offensive player. He relies to much on his mid-range game, which is the most inefficient ways to score. For as bad of a free throw shooter he is, it's interesting he's a decent 3 point shooter. Usually those go hand in hand.

[Silock]

You guys worry a lot for a team that's as good as we are.

[CoMoChief]

It wouldn't surprise me if they return everyone from this team next year.

If they can do that, next year could be really special

They need a true big man that can dominate the paint. Someone like a Aldrich, Withey or Embiid.

I dont think KU will be truly dominant until that happens.

Anyone know anything about this freshman Stephen Zimmerman kid who's 7ft top 25 rivals blue chipper?

[Al Czervik]

He's certainly improving at hitting threes. The rest...

His defense is much better from last year....

[Prison Bitch]

That is the worst team we play all season. Certainly the worst offensively. They couldn't even convert layups at times, unguarded even. They're a massive embarrassment to the league.

[Ceej]

That is the worst team we play all season. Certainly the worst offensively. They couldn't even convert layups at times, unguarded even. They're a massive embarrassment to the league.

How's this news?

I'm pretty sure we are all aware.