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Nzoner
02-16-2015, 02:48 PM
According to scoresandodds.com (http://props.scoresandodds.com/section_display.cfm?event=2015%20National%20League%20Pennant%20-%20Odds%20to%20Win&sporttype=527&startdate=2/16/2015)

Royals total wins 80.5

Cubs total wins 82.5 :eek:


Royals to win AL 17-1 (Clev,CWS,Tigers all ahead)

Cubs to win NL 8-1 :eek:

Bowser
02-16-2015, 02:50 PM
Yeah, I saw we were projected fourth in the Central this year. And I think the wins total has gone up; I heard a week or so ago we were projected to win 74 or so. :spock:

MTG#10
02-16-2015, 02:50 PM
Good, let us fly under the radar again...

Bufkin
02-16-2015, 02:52 PM
AL Champions who have improved in my opinion.

Gotta love that small market chip on the shoulder. I think Moustakas finally blows up this season for an entire year. Hosmer will look to improve as well. I think this team is ready to prove people wrong yet again.

Perineum Ripper
02-16-2015, 02:55 PM
Royals are horrible. :D

Nzoner
02-16-2015, 02:58 PM
Oh to see a Royals/Cubs series.

Bowser
02-16-2015, 02:59 PM
It sucks we won't have James Shields and his red ass swagger this year. I think he really instilled a will to win in this team that they hadn't felt in, well, decades. Hopefully Perez and Hosmer can drive this team going forward.

Discuss Thrower
02-16-2015, 02:59 PM
I think they get the #2 Wildcard at best.

KCwolf
02-16-2015, 03:04 PM
Does anyone remember their over/under win total from last season?

Nzoner
02-16-2015, 03:08 PM
Does anyone remember their over/under win total from last season?

Last March while in Vegas I recall it being around 82.

cosmo20002
02-16-2015, 03:19 PM
According to scoresandodds.com (http://props.scoresandodds.com/section_display.cfm?event=2015%20National%20League%20Pennant%20-%20Odds%20to%20Win&sporttype=527&startdate=2/16/2015)

Royals total wins 80.5

Cubs total wins 82.5 :eek:


Royals to win AL 17-1 (Clev,CWS,Tigers all ahead)

Cubs to win NL 8-1 :eek:

Yikes

If pitching has a repeat season, anything is possible. If they could find a little power in that lineup--Gordon? Hosmer?--the Royals could dominate the division.

Would also help if Moose could bump the average up to at least .250.

penbrook
02-16-2015, 03:22 PM
It sucks we won't have James Shields and his red ass swagger this year. I think he really instilled a will to win in this team that they hadn't felt in, well, decades. Hopefully Perez and Hosmer can drive this team going forward.

Ventura has taken over Shields swagger. Did you see him during the playoffs with that spin leg kick. He gives no fucks. He might be one of my favorite Royals

kcfanXIII
02-16-2015, 03:29 PM
Ventura has taken over Shields swagger. Did you see him during the playoffs with that spin leg kick. He gives no fucks. He might be one of my favorite Royals

yeah, if the 100+ heater wasn't enough, that performance he had where he just shut down the O's should make him everyone's favorite young Royal.




PS: FUCK all these naysayers.

Hootie
02-16-2015, 03:38 PM
Oh to see a Royals/Cubs series.

I got the Cubbies at 28:1 for $25 when I was in Vegas in November. I think they are at 10:1 at this point.

Back to the Future 2 said Cubs win in 2015.

Bowser
02-16-2015, 03:47 PM
I got the Cubbies at 28:1 for $25 when I was in Vegas in November. I think they are at 10:1 at this point.

Back to the Future 2 said Cubs win in 2015.

Admit it - they love you in Vegas, don't they?

Nzoner
02-16-2015, 04:08 PM
I got the Cubbies at 28:1 for $25 when I was in Vegas in November. I think they are at 10:1 at this point.

Back to the Future 2 said Cubs win in 2015.

Was that to win it all?

The 8:1 in the OP was NL only

Hootie
02-16-2015, 04:38 PM
Yeah 28:1 to win it all

BWillie
02-16-2015, 04:47 PM
LOL @ the Cubs odds.

Odds makers are forgetting one thing. THEY ARE THE FUCKING CUBS

duncan_idaho
02-16-2015, 05:15 PM
LOL @ the Cubs odds.

Odds makers are forgetting one thing. THEY ARE THE FUCKING CUBS

And you're forgetting that...

1) They still have a ton of money and support
2) They have a few great, young, established MLB players already and are supplementing them with the best collection of hitting prospects seen in decades
3) Theo Epstein is the GM and has a history of helping organizations overcome "curses"

Nzoner
02-16-2015, 05:57 PM
And you're forgetting that...

1) They still have a ton of money and support
2) They have a few great, young, established MLB players already and are supplementing them with the best collection of hitting prospects seen in decades
3) Theo Epstein is the GM and has a history of helping organizations overcome "curses"

I like this guy too

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/458342674-the-chicago-cubs-new-manager-joe-maddon-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QToRRxD7P%2B6gd5z4EVpx2de9i6nmDvI0R2JN5IGLMifDK%2BCfN5iQBOJFfHeFmuz2mA%3D%3D

bdj23
02-16-2015, 06:13 PM
I got the Cubbies at 28:1 for $25 when I was in Vegas in November. I think they are at 10:1 at this point.

Back to the Future 2 said Cubs win in 2015.

You're a dumbass, and a terrible gambler.

tredadda
02-16-2015, 06:28 PM
Good, let us fly under the radar again...

Exactly, no pressure on them. That's perfect for them.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-16-2015, 06:30 PM
Oh to see a Royals/Cubs series.

OMG This.

That would be the most intense WS in AGES.

Discuss Thrower
02-16-2015, 06:31 PM
OMG This.

That would be the most intense WS in AGES.

And it would be the worst ever in TV ratings.

BWillie
02-16-2015, 06:33 PM
And you're forgetting that...

1) They still have a ton of money and support
2) They have a few great, young, established MLB players already and are supplementing them with the best collection of hitting prospects seen in decades
3) Theo Epstein is the GM and has a history of helping organizations overcome "curses"

Javy Baez is garbage IMO, but the rest, they do have good system. I just think it will take longer than these odds indicate.

jd1020
02-16-2015, 06:35 PM
And it would be the worst ever in TV ratings.

One of the most popular teams in the world playing in the WS isn't going to bring the worst ever ratings.

tredadda
02-16-2015, 06:37 PM
It sucks we won't have James Shields and his red ass swagger this year. I think he really instilled a will to win in this team that they hadn't felt in, well, decades. Hopefully Perez and Hosmer can drive this team going forward.

This team was 90 feet from at least tying game 7 of the WS. If that and the remarkable playoff run do not instill a will to win James Shields would not have. Honestly the biggest loss we suffer from losing Shields is his ability to eat innings, but at his age that will catch up with him very soon. Glad we didn't resign him for what he got.

Pasta Little Brioni
02-16-2015, 06:50 PM
Cubs ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-16-2015, 06:56 PM
And it would be the worst ever in TV ratings.

One of the most popular teams in the world playing in the WS isn't going to bring the worst ever ratings.

What jd said.

The Cubs in a series, low ratings? I don't fucking think so.

Pasta Little Brioni
02-16-2015, 06:59 PM
What jd said.

The Cubs in a series, low ratings? I don't fucking think so.

He's a sCrUB/Chief fan. Poor sap will never see a title.

Sweet Daddy Hate
02-16-2015, 07:01 PM
He's a sCrUB/Chief fan. Poor sap will never see a title.

Man, that's like a double-AIDS dong to your sphincter and pee-hole.

Archie F. Swin
02-16-2015, 07:56 PM
Remember how we got Jack Shit at the deadline and that mutherfucker took us to the promised land?


I do

SPATCH
02-16-2015, 08:07 PM
I love how much prognosticators hate this team.

We still throw harder and defend better than any other team in the MLB. The offense will be better this season, as well.

This team should win the division.

BigRedChief
02-16-2015, 08:11 PM
Oh to see a Royals/Cubs series.people think just because they have young hitters and Maddon they are going to win the central and the NL? Come on man. Don't put any real money on that bet. They are still the Cubs.

Hootie
02-16-2015, 08:35 PM
You're a dumbass, and a terrible gambler.
So putting $25 at 28:1 because I figured they'd make a splash in free agency and seeing those odds drop to 12:1 before a game has even been played is terrible ... right.

Hootie
02-16-2015, 08:37 PM
people think just because they have young hitters and Maddon they are going to win the central and the NL? Come on man. Don't put any real money on that bet. They are still the Cubs.
Added Lester and Kris Bryant is going to be the next superstar of baseball

BigRedChief
02-16-2015, 08:40 PM
Added Lester and Kris Bryant is going to be the next superstar of baseballthey are still owned by dumbshits that cant even get the bleachers up in time.

lewdog
02-16-2015, 08:45 PM
Added Lester and Kris Bryant is going to be the next superstar of baseball

I'm on the Kris Bryant bandwagon. Gonna be fun watching that kid!

But it's still the Cubs. I really hope they never win. So many bandwagon fans for no fucking reason. It really is retarded.