Draft Prospects Contacted by Chiefs

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I will update this as the list grows:

A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina (COM)
T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (SR)
La'el Collins, OT, LSU (COM)
Devante Davis, WR, UNLV (SR)
Jamil Douglas, G/OT, Arizona State (COM)
Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) (COM)
Devin Funchess, TE/WR, Michigan (COM)
Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (COM)
Chris Hackett, FS, TCU (COM)
Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (VINT)
Bobby Hart, G, Florida State (COM)
D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (COM)
Ali Marpet, G, Hobart (COM)
Mitch Morse, OT, Missouri (COM)
Denzel Perryman, OLB/ILB, Miami (Fla.) (SR)
Eric Rowe, CB, Utah (COM)
Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama (EW)
Laken Tomlinson, G, Duke (SR)
Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (COM)
Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (COM)

They have contacted ten OL compared to three WR and three TEs.

It's gonna be an OL.

[Pablo]

We all knew it was going to be OL.

Meet the new boss...

[O.city]

Iirc, they didn't have contact with Dee Ford last year pre draft.

Could be wrong tho

[TribalElder]

What about the list of janitorial references that were consulted regarding these prospects

[Discuss Thrower]

FWIW Ford and Gaines weren't brought in for official interviews last year.

[BryanBusby]

La'el Collins fits with what they want. Can play many spots on the line, good size and can pass block. Should be a Day 1 Right Tackle.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

La'el Collins fits with what they want. Can play many spots on the line, good size and can pass block. Should be a Day 1 Right Tackle.

That's where I would put my money right now.

I'll bet they take Collins in Round 1 and then target an ILB in the second.

[Discuss Thrower]

If they go OT, it'll be T.J. Clemmings.

[O.city]

A draft of

Collins
Kendricks
Lockett

I'm the first three rounds would be pretty blah but would be a good draft I guess

[BryanBusby]

That's where I would put my money right now.

I'll bet they take Collins in Round 1 and then target an ILB in the second.
I'd guess they would probably get a WR in the 2nd round. Even though the word is that the Chiefs love Justin Hardy, Phillip Dorsett has that DeSean Jackson potential and a player like him would bring some actual explosion to the Chiefs offense.

Too many issues in the passing game last year, which Andy won't stand for. I think the early attention will go towards fixing that. Alex Smith is now the Chiefs prized possession with that big money contract, so they will dump resources into helping him succeed.

[Nightfyre]

I would look for us to bring in two of: Jake Fisher, Ali Marpet, Cameron Erving and La'el Collins. These are the four O-Linemen they will key on. Maybe Grasu, but his arms are a little shorter. Also, he didn't workout at the combine, and I am not sure why.

[milkman]

They have contacted ten OL compared to three WR and three TEs.

It's gonna be an OL.

The fact is that, while you and I would probably prefer the long term benefits of the best receiver, if you are John Dorsey and Andy Reid, nothing helps Alex Smith and this team win now more than O-Line.

And in that same vein, nothing helps Smith less than a legitimate target on the outside.

[DaneMcCloud]

FWIW, teams can interview as many as 60 players at the Combine

[O.city]

If they bring in Maclin in free agency, they have my permission to pass in a 1st round wr

[Nightfyre]

Clemmings brings comparable athleticism to the folks I listed, but is way more raw. He has a bit of length on them, however.

[O.city]

Laken Tomlinson will be a chief pick I'd imagine

[milkman]

Who is the potential 3rd round receiver in that list?

[O.city]

And ftr, there is a bigger list of who they've spoken too in draft planet, I think.

[O.city]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289878&page=4

[ThaVirus]

The fact is that, while you and I would probably prefer the long term benefits of the best receiver, if you are John Dorsey and Andy Reid, nothing helps Alex Smith and this team win now more than O-Line.



And in that same vein, nothing helps Smith less than a legitimate target on the outside.


This is correct.

Personally I hate everything about an offensive line selection in the 1st, but it's the only thing that makes sense given our current shituation.

[O.city]

Who is the potential 3rd round receiver in that list?

Hardy or the guy from miami

[O.city]

This is correct.

Personally I hate everything about an offensive line selection in the 1st, but it's the only thing that makes sense given our current shituation.

I understand it.

Don't like it, but I get it. If you get one that's good, it's not a bad selection.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The fact is that, while you and I would probably prefer the long term benefits of the best receiver, if you are John Dorsey and Andy Reid, nothing helps Alex Smith and this team win now more than O-Line.

And in that same vein, nothing helps Smith less than a legitimate target on the outside.

Agreed on all counts.

I wonder if this is how Hitler's generals felt.

[BigChiefFan]

Personally, I'd take WR Jaelen Strong in the first and OT Ogbuehi in the 2nd round.

[O.city]

The chiefs problem with the draft hasn't necessarily been with the positions they've taken, it's more that they've taken players who suck.

Just draft good players and the rest will take care of itself

[Simply Red]

Agreed on all counts.

I wonder if this is how Hitler's generals felt.

Oh, my God, 'Hamas.'

Do you want me to fry you up some fucking potato pancakes ? Some latkes ?

[milkman]

Agreed on all counts.

I wonder if this is how Hitler's generals felt.

Fact is I fully expect the Chiefs to go Tackle-Guard in the first 2 rounds.

[Simply Red]

Fact is I fully expect the Chiefs to go Tackle-Guard in the first 2 rounds.

what is your hope Milkman - I mean what is it you want in the first (only the 1st pick) - or what would make the most sense in your opinion?

[TribalElder]

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[kcchiefsus]

Fact is I fully expect the Chiefs to go Tackle-Guard in the first 2 rounds.

I'll fucking kill a bitch if that happens.

[BryanBusby]

I'd be surprised if Andy and Dorsey opted to start two rookies on the Offensive Line. New starting LG will probably come from FA.

[milkman]

what is your hope Milkman - I mean what is it you want in the first (only the 1st pick) - or what would make the most sense in your opinion?

I don't give a shit about now, because I don't think we win shit with Alex.

I think a receiver, whether it's DGB or DeVante Parker gives us the best long term prospects in the first.

[Simply Red]

I don't give a shit about now, because I don't think we win shit with Alex.

I think a receiver, whether it's DGB or DeVante Parker gives us the best long term prospects in the first.

i see - switching gears - what's the latest on Knile Davis - did we secure him for this year or...? trying to remember his situation w/ the Chiefs.

[kcchiefsus]

i see - switching gears - what's the latest on Knile Davis - did we secure him for this year or...? trying to remember his situation w/ the Chiefs.

What the fuck does that have to do with this thread?

[Simply Red]

What the **** does that have to do with this thread?

Was i asking you fuck face? Shut the fuck up and mind your own business - you're NOT Milkman you stupid son of a bitch - fuck you I'll ask what I want bitch.

[kcchiefsus]

Was i asking you **** face? Shut the **** up and mind your own business - you're NOT Milkman you stupid son of a bitch - **** you I'll ask what I want bitch.

:LOL:ROFL

[Simply Red]

:LOL:ROFL

Fuck you weirdo

[kcchiefsus]

**** you weirdo

No thanks

[Simply Red]

No thanks

I don't even know who you are nor have I ever seen your user name in 8 yrs. I'd worry about you attack - if you had any relevance, I know daddy never complimented you - Keep trying you'll eventually find someone who will remember you, in life. ;)

[Simply Red]

wasn't hard putting you in the red.

[kcchiefsus]

wasn't hard putting you in the red.

Oh my goodness, I'm not a known poster on chiefsplanet and now i'm in the red. What will I do? THE HORROR!!!

[Nightfyre]

Knile Davis is under his rookie deal through 2016.

[milkman]

Knile Davis is under his rookie deal through 2016.

SHUT UP FUCKFACE, HE DIDN'T ASK YOU!

[Simply Red]

SHUT UP ****FACE, HE DIDN'T ASK YOU!

Yeah go ahead and fuck off too - I've always given you respect - actually just fuck all of you. fuckin don't expect me back - get a fucking life.

[Saul Good]

Oh, my God, 'Hamas.'

Do you want me to fry you up some ****ing potato pancakes ? Some latkes ?

An SR post sans sans?

[TEX]

I will update this as the list grows:

A.J. Cann, G, South Carolina (COM)
T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (SR)
La'el Collins, OT, LSU (COM)
Devante Davis, WR, UNLV (SR)
Jamil Douglas, G/OT, Arizona State (COM)
Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) (COM)
Devin Funchess, TE/WR, Michigan (COM)
Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (COM)
Chris Hackett, FS, TCU (COM)
Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (VINT)
Bobby Hart, G, Florida State (COM)
D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (COM)
Ali Marpet, G, Hobart (COM)
Mitch Morse, OT, Missouri (COM)
Denzel Perryman, OLB/ILB, Miami (Fla.) (SR)
Eric Rowe, CB, Utah (COM)
Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama (EW)
Laken Tomlinson, G, Duke (SR)
Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (COM)
Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (COM)

They have contacted ten OL compared to three WR and three TEs.

It's gonna be an OL.

Good. It NEEDS to be.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Good. It NEEDS to be.

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[Discuss Thrower]

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The Chiefs aren't taking Dorial bruh

[Dante84]

I've got an up to date list I'm managing in Draft Planet with links and stuff, if you guys want to watch tape or whatevs.

:(

It goes back 4 years.

[Nightfyre]

SHUT UP ****FACE, HE DIDN'T ASK YOU!

SHUT UP **** FACE, YOUR SENILE ASS DIDN'T ANSWER!

[TribalElder]

Cool story bro

[Bowser]

My wish is to take Parker/DGB/Williams in the first and the BP guard/OT in the second.

If we go La'el Collins in the first then Justin Hardy in the second, I suppose that would work as well.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Chiefs aren't taking Dorial bruh

This is not news to me.

[milkman]

SHUT UP **** FACE, YOUR SENILE ASS DIDN'T ANSWER!

SHUT UP, FUCKFACE, MY SENILE ASS DIDN'T REMEMBER.

[Discuss Thrower]

I think Jordan Phillips will be a possibility in the first. A three inches taller than Poe, similar combine measurables and his weaknesses according to NFL.com's draft profile are reminiscent of the Chiefs' current nose tackle.

[O.city]

Marcus Peters falls to our second round pick.

draft him?

[Saccopoo]

That's where I would put my money right now.

I'll bet they take Collins in Round 1 and then target an ILB in the second.

Collins will be the first OL off the board. He solidified his draft status today looking the best in the drills on top of being the best OL at the Senior Bowl. He might not have perceived LT upside like recent high OL picks like Okung, but he's basically without warts and can be immediately plugged into four positions on the line and give you solid performance right from the get go.

I don't think that the Chiefs get a chance at him at #18.

[Discuss Thrower]

Collins will be the first OL off the board. He solidified his draft status today looking the best in the drills on top of being the best OL at the Senior Bowl. He might not have perceived LT upside like recent high OL picks like Okung, but he's basically without warts and can be immediately plugged into four positions on the line and give you solid performance right from the get go.

I don't think that the Chiefs get a chance at him at #18.

If SNR's (or whomever figured it out first) three cone theory is correct, will it be Clemmings, Erving or Fisher in the 1st round?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This is what I like about Chiefs drafting; brings out the best in everyone.

[Nightfyre]

I think Jordan Phillips will be a possibility in the first. A three inches taller than Poe, similar combine measurables and his weaknesses according to NFL.com's draft profile are reminiscent of the Chiefs' current nose tackle.
WoUld. Dude is a freak. Can you imagine Poe sliding over to de with this guy sucking up blockers in the middle?

[Dave Lane]

Fact is I fully expect the Chiefs to go Tackle-Guard in the first 2 rounds.

Somebody gonna die.

[Renegade]

This mock has us taking Jaelen Strong and Collins going to the Rams.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-mock-draft-2015-post-scouting-combine-edition/ar-BBhRCXL

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Somebody gonna die.

Nah.

At least not for me. I used to get upset, then I realized that the Chiefs are ass-backwards in life and it just is what it is.

Dumbass franchise gonna' dumbass.

[the Talking Can]

Chiefs have spent 3 decades believing they're an OL away from something...

[Iconic]

I called Ford last year and I'm calling Perryman this year. Everyone and their mother thinks we're going WR in the first so this will cause some nice trading down partners. I think we can get an O-Lineman in the second and then Hardy should be there in the third.

Honestly, this WR class is pretty stacked. We shouldn't worry about it too much considering how many picks we have.

[Imon Yourside]

Chiefs have spent 3 decades believing they're an OL away from something...

But this year is different.

[notorious]

Nobody has a clue who we are going to draft.



The only thing we are sure about is the meltdown will be spectacular.

[kcchiefsus]

I called Ford last year and I'm calling Perryman this year. Everyone and their mother thinks we're going WR in the first so this will cause some nice trading down partners. I think we can get an O-Lineman in the second and then Hardy should be there in the third.

Honestly, this WR class is pretty stacked. We shouldn't worry about it too much considering how many picks we have.

And everybody knows we're high on Hardy. A smart team who also wants Hardy will trade right in front of us to get him, which is what always happens to this team.

Wait until the 3rd to get a WR and we're playing with fire.

[MTG#10]

Yeah go ahead and fuck off too - I've always given you respect - actually just fuck all of you. fuckin don't expect me back - get a fucking life.

Do you need a hug bro? I'm here for ya.

[Dave Lane]

Was i asking you **** face? Shut the **** up and mind your own business - you're NOT Milkman you stupid son of a bitch - **** you I'll ask what I want bitch.

You seem nice.

[Dave Lane]

Nah.

At least not for me. I used to get upset, then I realized that the Chiefs are ass-backwards in life and it just is what it is.

Dumbass franchise gonna' dumbass.

What is hilarious is that many of our great OL came in the 2-5th rounds. This is where you take OL. Not the 1st round every fucking year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What is hilarious is that many of our great OL came in the 2-5th rounds. This is where you take OL. Not the 1st round every fucking year.

Or acquired from other teams...

[nychief]

it is a real echo chamber circle jerk in here. We get it, OL does not excite you fellas.

[Reerun_KC]

Just received an alert on my phone from ESPN..

That fucking outdated loser Kiper said that the Chiefs might take Devin Smith WR in his new updated mock draft...

Kiper is about as relevant as his hair cut... so I don't know why I posted this...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

it is a real echo chamber circle jerk in here. We get it, OL does not excite you fellas.

Not much the Chiefs do excites me. In fact, they've been solely responsible for an overall decrease in sports interest.

[Bambi]

Can we get bubble butt?

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[Sofa King]

Wow he looks bad.

[nychief]

Not much the Chiefs do excites me. In fact, they've been solely responsible for an overall decrease in sports interest.


Low T?

http://www.isitlowt.com/

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Low T?

http://www.isitlowt.com/

LMAO

Prolly.

[Raiderhater]

Nobody has a clue who we are going to draft.



The only thing we are sure about is the meltdown will be spectacular.
It always is.

[keg in kc]

Nothing would kill my interest in the draft faster than an o-lineman in round 1. Be like going out on a blind date and finding out that I'd been set up with a dude.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Nothing would kill my interest in the draft faster than an o-lineman in round 1. Be like going out on a blind date and finding out that I'd been set up with a dude.

LMAO

[BigMeatballDave]

Just like 2 years ago, I'm not excited for the draft.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Just like 2 years ago, I'm not excited for the draft.

Or FA, or the season, or Smith, or Reid....


I'm feeling excited about getting to KC and having some BBQ next month, though.

[Ming the Merciless]

It's gonna be an OL.


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[Ming the Merciless]

Its gonna be an OL

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[Ming the Merciless]

Reid and Dorsey preparing for draft day
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Reid and Dorsey preparing for draft day
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3693645/steams.gif

:LOL:

[penbrook]

Terez Paylor said Chiefs met with Hudson and Maugas representatives at the combine

[Bootlegged]

Who cares - this team is never going to win it all.

Whaaa Waaaa

[Jimmya]

OL.....death

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Terez Paylor said Chiefs met with Hudson and Maugas representatives at the combine

And not one fuck was given.

[Discuss Thrower]

Just like 2 years ago, I'm not excited for the draft.

There won't be any player available at the spots KC is slated to select at that will improve the team from Week 1

That's all there is to it.

A tackle or guard won't play above an average level until the end of the season in a best case scenario... And I think a guy taken at #18 will be playing outside of his college position.

A wide receiver will take half the season to get acclimated to the WCO -if at all in his rookie year- and it stands to reason KC will pass on a receiver in the first 64 picks.

Going tight end might seem like a great idea if you think Maxx Williams and Travis Kelce will become the next Gronk/Hernandez (sans homicides)... But consider it was Brady throwing to them.

A NT like Jordan Phillips (if he's available) would be a great pick to guard against Poe's inevitable departure, but he probably won't be asked to play much barring injury. The Chiefs have DE covered for the moment.

Inside linebacker might shore up the run defense, but I argue that the run defense wasn't a huge problem considering the team never gave up more than 30 points last year. Rookie would have growing pains somewhere along the line too.

OLB isn't a need unless Hali gets cut and Houston walks.

Safety might be the one spot that would see an immediate impact if the Chiefs take Landon Collins in the 1st, and drafting a corner for non-nickel purposes would be to hedge against Sean Smith walking as a FA in the near future too.

[Chief Roundup]

That list looks shy of 1st round talent period.

[nychief]

There won't be any player available at the spots KC is slated to select at that will improve the team from Week 1

That's all there is to it.

A tackle or guard won't play above an average level until the end of the season in a best case scenario... And I think a guy taken at #18 will be playing outside of his college position.

A wide receiver will take half the season to get acclimated to the WCO -if at all in his rookie year- and it stands to reason KC will pass on a receiver in the first 64 picks.

Going tight end might seem like a great idea if you think Maxx Williams and Travis Kelce will become the next Gronk/Hernandez (sans homicides)... But consider it was Brady throwing to them.

A NT like Jordan Phillips (if he's available) would be a great pick to guard against Poe's inevitable departure, but he probably won't be asked to play much barring injury. The Chiefs have DE covered for the moment.

Inside linebacker might shore up the run defense, but I argue that the run defense wasn't a huge problem considering the team never gave up more than 30 points last year. Rookie would have growing pains somewhere along the line too.

OLB isn't a need unless Hali gets cut and Houston walks.

Safety might be the one spot that would see an immediate impact if the Chiefs take Landon Collins in the 1st, and drafting a corner for non-nickel purposes would be to hedge against Sean Smith walking as a FA in the near future too.

Welp sounds like you got it all figured out, best to just open a vein and call it a day.

[Discuss Thrower]

Welp sounds like you got it all figured out, best to just open a vein and call it a day.

Or, you just accept the fact that anyone picked shouldn't be expected to be a critical part of the team until next season or the one after.

The Chiefs are one year into a rebuild.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Or, you just accept the fact that anyone picked shouldn't be expected to be a critical part of the team until next season or the one after.

The Chiefs are one year into a rebuild.

This. The 1st year was the only shot the vets had. That shit is OVER.

[Chief Roundup]

Or, you just accept the fact that anyone picked shouldn't be expected to be a critical part of the team until next season or the one after.

The Chiefs are one year into a rebuild.
If we are only one year into a rebuild it should be easy to find players that would immediately improve a lot of positions.

You are correct in the overall thought that rookies do not generally have a big immediate impact.
A good OG which could probably actually be had in the 2cd would immediately impact the OL which would affect the entire offense which would be pretty critical.
Generally the quicker impact rookies seem to be on the D side of the ball. It wouldn't take a whole lot to be critical to the ILB position. We don't know what we have in DJ, but Mays and the backups were less than good.

[penbrook]

Orlando Franklin said he will not be back with the Broncos. Chiefs go get him

[rtmike]

La'el Collins fits with what they want. Can play many spots on the line, good size and can pass block. Should be a Day 1 Right Tackle.

this.the.one.

[stonedstooge]

Welp sounds like you got it all figured out, best to just open an artery and call it a day.

Fixed to bleed out quicker

[Dunerdr]

I'm excited for the draft it's our Super Bowl. As long as andy and Alex are here I can't get excited for our team offensively. So I figure why not Dorsey it up where these athletic stallions will be coached up in 2-3 when smith is done shitting in arrowhead. This is it guys this is the fucking show for us!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm excited for the draft it's our Super Bowl. As long as andy and Alex are here I can't get excited for our team offensively. So I figure why not Dorsey it up where these athletic stallions will be coached up in 2-3 when smith is done shitting in arrowhead. This is it guys this is the fucking show for us!

Sad but true.

Don't forget the Pro Bowl! That's prime time for Lil' Chiefy.

[DaneMcCloud]

There won't be any player available at the spots KC is slated to select at that will improve the team from Week 1

That's all there is to it.

A tackle or guard won't play above an average level until the end of the season in a best case scenario... And I think a guy taken at #18 will be playing outside of his college position.

A wide receiver will take half the season to get acclimated to the WCO -if at all in his rookie year- and it stands to reason KC will pass on a receiver in the first 64 picks.

Going tight end might seem like a great idea if you think Maxx Williams and Travis Kelce will become the next Gronk/Hernandez (sans homicides)... But consider it was Brady throwing to them.

A NT like Jordan Phillips (if he's available) would be a great pick to guard against Poe's inevitable departure, but he probably won't be asked to play much barring injury. The Chiefs have DE covered for the moment.

Inside linebacker might shore up the run defense, but I argue that the run defense wasn't a huge problem considering the team never gave up more than 30 points last year. Rookie would have growing pains somewhere along the line too.

OLB isn't a need unless Hali gets cut and Houston walks.

Safety might be the one spot that would see an immediate impact if the Chiefs take Landon Collins in the 1st, and drafting a corner for non-nickel purposes would be to hedge against Sean Smith walking as a FA in the near future too.

This is a ridiculous post.

Will Shields started Day One and made an impact. Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert and countless players have played well their rookie season.

And to state that a WR couldn't step in and catch 50 or 60 passes immediately, if not more, is just silly.

[penbrook]

This is a ridiculous post.

Will Shields started Day One and made an impact. Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert and countless players have played well their rookie season.

And to state that a WR couldn't step in and catch 50 or 60 passes immediately, if not more, is just silly.

5 guys that easily could are White, Cooper, DGB, Parker, and Funchess in that order

[Nightfyre]

I kind of hope we trade down to the early-mid 20s and pick up Cameron Erving. I think he could easily play anywhere on the line at a high level, and start on day one.

[Discuss Thrower]

This is a ridiculous post.

Will Shields started Day One and made an impact. Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Eric Berry, Brandon Albert and countless players have played well their rookie season.

And to state that a WR couldn't step in and catch 50 or 60 passes immediately, if not more, is just silly.

Well, yeah. That's what makes Will Shields a Hall of Famer... even though he didn't technically start until Week 2.

But the other guys you listed started as rookies because the team was just that bad. Hali had the benefit of playing opposite Jared Allen until Carl traded #69 and didn't look good again until the team transitioned to the 3-4. Albert started practically the whole season at LT, but outside of Waters that line was one of the worst the Chiefs have had since the Vermeil years. Similar story with Berry.

My point is I don't believe a rookie receiver the Chiefs will have a crack at drafting at #18 that will bring anything more to the table than any also-ran free agent would provide in the 2015 season.

[DaneMcCloud]

Well, yeah. That's what makes Will Shields a Hall of Famer... even though he didn't technically start until Week 2.

But the other guys you listed started as rookies because the team was just that bad. Hali had the benefit of playing opposite Jared Allen until Carl traded #69 and didn't look good again until the team transitioned to the 3-4. Albert started practically the whole season at LT, but outside of Waters that line was one of the worst the Chiefs have had since the Vermeil years. Similar story with Berry.

My point is I don't believe a rookie receiver the Chiefs will have a crack at drafting at #18 that will bring anything more to the table than any also-ran free agent would provide in the 2015 season.
If a WR at #18 can't immediately start and upgrade the Chiefs receiving corp, it's because he's injured or the Chiefs signed Randall Cobb and Jeremy Maclin while retaining Dwayne Bowe.

[splatbass]

If a WR at #18 can't immediately start and upgrade the Chiefs receiving corp, it's because he's injured or the Chiefs signed Randall Cobb and Jeremy Maclin while retaining Dwayne Bowe.

Reid's offense is one of the most complicated in the NFL. I wouldn't expect a rookie WR to have any real impact until the last half of the season at best.

[-King-]

Reid's offense is one of the most complicated in the NFL. I wouldn't expect a rookie WR to have any real impact until the last half of the season at best.

Maclin and Jackson both had success their rookie years.
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[Dunerdr]

Reid will design plays for guys that make It happen. A rookie can produce. Maybe not at peak efficiency but it can be done. Hell Albert Wilson should have been a dumpster fire and by week 17 I was scratching my head wondering how a Udfa from nowhere county community college looked like our most dangerous receiver. Imagine a guy taken in say the second round....

[jd1020]

I can only hope they don't make their decision based on the fact they hitched their wagon to Alex Smith...













... in before OL.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Round one has to be impact player. We need playmakers. I'm hoping for a WR in round 1. But if we sign Maclin and go OL in round 1, I can accept it.

[-King-]

Round one has to be impact player. We need playmakers. I'm hoping for a WR in round 1. But if we sign Maclin and go OL in round 1, I can accept it.

This. I bet that's their thinking too. If we don't sign Maclin or Cobb in FA I'm willing to bet anyone our first pick is WR. If we do pick up one of them, I wouldn't mind them going OL. I'd hope they trade down for it but either way I wouldn't complain.
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[DaneMcCloud]

Reid's offense is one of the most complicated in the NFL. I wouldn't expect a rookie WR to have any real impact until the last half of the season at best.

His offense is not complicated. It's not rocket science, it football.

[DaneMcCloud]

Round one has to be impact player. We need playmakers. I'm hoping for a WR in round 1. But if we sign Maclin and go OL in round 1, I can accept it.

I don't care about the position.

All I care about is that the guy steps in and plays at a high level.

That's all I ask.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Reid's offense is one of the most complicated in the NFL. I wouldn't expect a rookie WR to have any real impact until the last half of the season at best.

His offense is not complicated. It's not rocket science, it football.

This.

Calling that piece of shit, horizontal-bop "complicated" is akin to calling McDonalds "health food".

A ridiculous assertion.