****Official West Virginia Mountaineers @ Kansas Jayhawks Game Thread****

[Lzen]

Revenge time!

#20 West Virginia (22-7, 10-6 B12) vs #9 Kansas (23-6, 12-4 B12)

Tuesday, March 3, 8:00 PM on ESP2, ESP3
Allen Fieldhouse, Lawrence, Kansas

[Bambi]

game time

[Buehler445]

Let's fucking win this motherfucking bitchass league out the fuck right.

[Bambi]

I gotta give it to Huggins. His teams are always prepared and rarely take shit from anyone.

Even though he gets a 25k bonus for beating KU I assume he does this every game.

[KCTitus]

This team....so hard to watch.

[Meatloaf]

WVA making some tough shots right now. They won't keep that up long.

[PHOG]

Traylor is worthless. I sure thought he would be a better player.

[chiefsfan987]

It would be nice if you could keep WVU from scoring every trip up the court KU.

[KC_Connection]

KU with arguably their worst start of the season. Asleep out there.

[Ceej]

Someone should probably make a shot.

[Meatloaf]

Lord have mercy. What is it with this team?

[TambaBerry]

Would also be nice if they would stop holding our guys every time.

[Bambi]

Traylor is worthless. I sure thought he would be a better player.

ugh, Jamari

These guys smoke WAY too much weed.

[KC_Connection]

WVU has a lot to play for in this game. They win and they could very well be in a 4 way tie for the B12 after Saturday.

[Meatloaf]

Get Selden outa there.

[chiefsfan987]

Lord have mercy. What is it with this team?

At this point in the season you really need to ask heh.

[PHOG]

ugh, Jamari

These guys smoke WAY too much weed.
Yeah,must be along with Seldon.

[Ceej]

You know it's bad when Svi has checked in already.

[KC_Connection]

No, this is definitely the worst start of the season. Amazing how bad Landen is in the post.

[Ceej]

Lay ups are hard.

[Meatloaf]

I think Perry has TOUCHED a ton of our offensive misses, but he can't hang on to ANYTHING. This is MADDENING.

[Pablo]

Fucking fuck, wake up.

[TambaBerry]

Seriously refs I see a foul every fucking time

[KC_Connection]

I think Perry has TOUCHED a ton of our offensive misses, but he can't hang on to ANYTHING. This is MADDENING.
Should really be a much better rebounder than he is at his size.

[Meatloaf]

6 points in 9 minutes?????

[KCCHIEFS27]

Lucas should never post up. Set screens, crash the boards and guard the rim. That is it. I don't understand why these guys throw him the ball. Also, if Greene isn't shooting, then he's worthless. Still not too worried about this game.

[Ceej]

Really disappointed how flat this team has came out tonight all things considered.

[Bambi]

Remember when we used to have good players like Sherron Collins and Kirk Hinrich?

[KCTitus]

Seriously...this is a joke right?

[Bambi]

Are we going to break double digits in the 1st half?

[Meatloaf]

Are we going to break double digits in the 1st half?

Could be dicey.

[Lzen]

Really disappointed how flat this team has came out tonight all things considered.

This.

[chiefsfan987]

Why does Grahm think he needs to shoot so much? He's not a good shooter.

[Meatloaf]

Score, dammit.

[Lzen]

Mickelson seems like the only big that can guard tonight.

[PHOG]

Yay, points.

[KCTitus]

Thank the Lord for the Bonus...

[Meatloaf]

Bench Selden. Please.

[Bearcat]

2 FGs and I believe they're both layups.

[Lzen]

Get a fucking rebound, you lazy assholes!

[Ceej]

Still not sure how some people think this team makes it past the first weekend in the NCAAs.

[KC_Connection]

Perhaps the worst this team has played all season. Maybe Temple.

[jimidollar]

This team is so bad. Good thing the rest of the league has issues so we win it by default.

[Pepe Silvia]

KU will win easy.

[Meatloaf]

WVA just shoving our guys around like little girlie dolls.

[Ceej]

Mason been getting owned for weeks.

[KC_Connection]

They're doing a far worse job of attacking the press than at WVU and that's when refs weren't even giving them any of these foul calls.

[Bearcat]

Well, they're like 3 for 10 on layups now.

[KC_Connection]

Mason been getting owned for weeks.
He's gassed. Needs a break after carrying the team all year. Looks like he may not get one now.

[Meatloaf]

This is one lazy-assed KU team. Ultra weak.

[TambaBerry]

We never get the fucking charge calls

[chiefsfan987]

KU will win easy.

I'm not very confident in that. They may win, but it'll be a struggle the entire way. We don't match up against WVU well at all.

[Ceej]

LMAO

[TambaBerry]

Seriously how the fuck is that not a foul

[KC_Connection]

Is there any intensity in this soft team? Getting outworked completely.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

wow.

[PHOG]

At least they didn't break the streak, time to cruise now apparently...:rolleyes:

[Meatloaf]

KU Marshmallows.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Effort! Fuck!

[Buehler445]

JFC :Lin:

[Buehler445]

Oh wow.

What the fuck did he say?

[KCTitus]

pfft...cheesy.

[PHOG]

That's BS.

[Ceej]

Bad call..

Just as bad as Cliff's flex vs. OSU.

[Ceej]

Oubre fouled on that dunk, btw.

[Meatloaf]

Their guards just BLOW around any of our guards out there.

[Buehler445]

So he didn't say anything?

What a joke.

[Lzen]

Looking at that replay it appears that Oubre dunk should have been an and 1.

[Meatloaf]

If you can't stay in front of them, GO ZONE.

[Ceej]

Worst rebounding team in the nation.

[chiefsfan987]

KU sucks at rebounding against WVU. Just flat out sucks.

[KC_Connection]

Nobody on this team can grab a rebound except Oubre without Cliff and he just left the game with fouls.

[Buehler445]

4th 3 point make of the year? JFC.

[Buehler445]

Good play by Graham there.

[TambaBerry]

Mason was fouled three times before it was called

[KCTitus]

So he didn't say anything?

What a joke.

No, just a stare...

[Meatloaf]

WVA just abusing our little boys.

[chiefsfan987]

WVU 29 shots on goal.... KU 17. lmao

[Buehler445]

No, just a stare...

I'll admit that's lame.

[KC_Connection]

Amazes me that Lucas gets significant minutes considering how bad he is at just about everything. But that's where we are now.

[Ceej]

I wonder what the score would be if WVU had half as many offensive rebounds as they do now.

[KC_Connection]

I think I'd start playing Mickelson a lot more with Cliff gone. At least try him. He was a great shot blocker with Arkansas and could provide some rim protection than Lucas/Traylor can't.

[TambaBerry]

I wonder what the score would be if WVU had half as many offensive rebounds as they do now.

Wonder what the score would be if wvu would get called for fouls

[Ceej]

Lol.

[KC_Connection]

Wonder what the score would be if wvu would get called for fouls
They've been called for 11 of them. Think the 13 OREBs are mattering a bit more.

[Buehler445]

I think I'd start playing Mickelson a lot more with Cliff gone. At least try him. He was a great shot blocker with Arkansas and could provide some rim protection than Lucas/Traylor can't.

I would too. He gave us good minutes.

[Ceej]

WVU making tough shots. Getting owned by some frosh who tied his career high in points in the first half.

[Buehler445]

Not Ellis. We are assfucked without Ellis.

[Ceej]

Thanks Landen Lucas.

[KC_Connection]

Not Ellis. We are ass****ed without Ellis.
Honestly, we probably are regardless.

[Meatloaf]

This is just one horrible performance.....especially considering it's the last home game of the year. Unbelievable.

[PHOG]

That's it.

[Ceej]

Just stand there Landen.

[KC_Connection]

Get ready for the 4 way tie at the top of the conference with Rust's boys among them.

[chiefsfan987]

I can't seem them coming back from this much down.

[Ceej]

I can't seem them coming back from this much down.

Definitely not.

[chiefsfan987]

Get ready for the 4 way tie at the top of the conference with Rust's boys among them.

Hope not. I don't want to share a title in which we lost twice to a team. KU needs to get their crap together and start making some shots. Then when they do... play some defense and get a rebound.

[KC_Connection]

Hope not. I don't want to share a title in which we lost twice to a team. KU needs to get their crap together and start making some shots. Then when they do... play some defense and get a rebound.
Will be sharing it with two teams that we lost twice against most likely. WVU and OU.

I'll take what we can get with this flawed, soft team, though.

[jimidollar]

I wonder if we'll win another game this year.

[Buehler445]

Get ready for the 4 way tie at the top of the conference with Rust's boys among them.

Yay.

[Meatloaf]

I'd start all our walk-ons the second half. Maybe they'd show a bit of courage.

[Lzen]

Will be sharing it with two teams that we lost twice against most likely. WVU and OU.

I'll take what we can get with this flawed, soft team, though.

Ummmm......since when did KU lose to OU? :spock:

[Ceej]

4-0 run to end the half boys. MOMENTUUUUUUMMMMMM.

[KC_Connection]

Ummmm......since when did KU lose to OU? :spock:
You're right. Guess I remembered that game as a loss. They did get considerably outplayed in it, though.

[TambaBerry]

Ummmm......since when did KU lose to OU? :spock:

What I thought

[ArrowheadHawk]

They better pull one of the better halves out of their ass if they want a chance at this one.

[PHOG]

4-0 run to end the half boys. MOMENTUUUUUUMMMMMM.

:rockon:

[Lzen]

If KU loses that will be the first time he has lost to the same team twice in the season in quite awhile (in conference).

[BigRedChief]

Get ready for the 4 way tie at the top of the conference with Rust's boys among them.One true champion.:rolleyes:

[Ceej]

One true champion.:rolleyes:

Thanks ReeRun.

[Bearcat]

If KU loses that will be the first time he has lost to the same team twice in the season in quite awhile (in conference).

His first season, I think.... @Texas and then in the B12 tournament.

[ROYC75]

They better pull one of the better halves out of their ass if they want a chance at this one.

Because that was as bad as the UK half!:grr:

[KC_Connection]

His first season, I think.... @Texas and then in the B12 tournament.
Yes, and if you're talking simply regular season, it's been since ISU in 2001.

[chiefsfan987]

I wonder which seed we would be in the Big 12 tournament in a 4way tie.

[ROYC75]

I can't seem them coming back from this much down.

I can, block out, defend better and WV is biting on every pass, we are not using any fakes passes to open up a lane.

[KC_Connection]

I wonder which seed we would be in the Big 12 tournament in a 4way tie.
Already checked that. 4th seed as they'd lose the H2H tiebreaker (2-4 vs the 3 teams).

[KC_Connection]

ISU would also be the 1 seed in that scenario (which is becoming more likely all the time).

[Buehler445]

Fuck. If Ellis is out I may cry.

[chiefsfan987]

ISU would also be the 1 seed in that scenario (which is becoming more likely all the time).

I think it's more likely that if we lose this game we beat Oklahoma. They aren't as bad a matchup for us as WVU is.

[Ceej]

****. If Ellis is out I may cry.

Looking like that's the case.

[Buehler445]

Gotta keep Williams out of the lane.

[KC_Connection]

I think it's more likely that if we lose this game we beat Oklahoma. They aren't as bad a matchup for us as WVU is.
OU is a much better team than WVU and they'd be playing at home. We'd be the underdogs (especially with no Cliff and maybe no Perry either).

[Ceej]

Traylor and Lucas should never shoot the ball.

[chiefsfan987]

OU is a much better team than WVU and they'd be playing at home. We'd be the underdogs (especially with no Cliff and maybe no Perry either).

I think OU is a better team too, but I think KU matches up better against them.

[KC_Connection]

Traylor and Lucas should never shoot the ball.
Or even touch the ball. But I think the other teams have figured that out.

[Ceej]

Pretty sure Lucas got raped.

[KC_Connection]

Selden has been an inspiration tonight. 0 for 3 with 4 turnovers and no defense played.

[Reerun_KC]

Kansas struggling inbounding the ball against WVU?

[Meatloaf]

Selden has been an inspiration tonight. 0 for 3 with 4 turnovers and no defense played.

Most over-rated player on this team.

[Ceej]

Selden has been an inspiration tonight. 0 for 3 with 4 turnovers and no defense played.

Maybe he will be a good player his senior year.

[Ceej]

Kansas struggling inbounding the ball against WVU?

Struggling in every aspect, really.

[Buehler445]

Traylor has some moves if there is one on one and the guy isn't physical, but yeah, on the whole, dunks and OREB are it.

[Lzen]

Most over-rated player on this team.

Meh, I think (hope) it's just a sophomore slump.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Nice start. Keep it up.

[Lzen]

We're finally playing with aggressiveness, both offensive and defensively as well as rebounding. Keep this up and we will win this game.

[Meatloaf]

Meh, I think (hope) it's just a sophomore slump.

Sorry, it's that he's simply not that good. Just not quick enough to be a good baller.

[Ceej]

First dunk by Wayne I remember in a long time.

[Lzen]

Sorry, it's that he's simply not that good. Just not quick enough to be a good baller.

I don't agree with that. We have seen him have big games. And just as I type this he gets a steal and a monster jam!

[KC_Connection]

Selden igniting the crowd by throwing the ball right out of bounds

[Lzen]

WTF kind of BS foul was that against Oubre?

[Ceej]

Guy tripped on Oubre's foot, falls, foul on Oubre.

[Meatloaf]

I don't agree with that. We have seen him have big games. And just as I type this he gets a steal and a monster jam!

Gotta be fair though....it was after he clanked a coupla free throws. Only time he's been really good is when he was hitting a ton of 3's. He's been ass on 2 pointers and not so good at the FT line either. Plus, he can't handle the ball very well, and for as big as he is, he gets no rebounds.

Sorry, but he's just not very good.

[KC_Connection]

Noticed the other day that Selden has the 3rd worst rebound rate in the B12. Amazing for a player his size.

[Reerun_KC]

Man cant hit shit... Did I hear right that Staton is not playing?

[Ceej]

Greene has become worthless.

[Lzen]

Gotta be fair though....it was after he clanked a coupla free throws. Only time he's been really good is when he was hitting a ton of 3's. He's been ass on 2 pointers and not so good at the FT line either. Plus, he can't handle the ball very well, and for as big as he is, he gets no rebounds.

Sorry, but he's just not very good.

For most of this year he hasn't been that good. I agree. But I disagree with the potential aspect of your comments. I think we will see a much better Selden next year.

[Meatloaf]

Fricking Lucas has done nothing right tonite. Geez, I'm on EVERYONE'S ass right now. Sorry boys.

[O.city]

Green is a turd

[Ceej]

Shit, maybe we should have rested everyone tonight.

[Meatloaf]

Shit, maybe we should have rested everyone tonight.

Ceej, I think you hit on it!!!

[KC_Connection]

Lucas is just so uncoordinated.

[Reerun_KC]

Good Lord Kansas.... Again?

[Lzen]

WTF has happened to Green's shot?

[Reerun_KC]

Thuggy getting his coaching on tonight...

[chiefsfan987]

WTF has happened to Green's shot?

Disappeared. I hope he finds it in the final 10 minutes.

[KC_Connection]

I wonder when the last time there was a 4 way tie atop a major conference.

[Ceej]

More stupid turnovers, please.

[morphius]

Can't hit threes, other team throws everything up and it goes in. Gonna lose every time.

[O.city]

This is awful

[Ceej]

Can't hit threes, other team throws everything up and it goes in. Gonna lose every time.

Holton, 20% 3 pt shooter hits two in a row.

Meanwhile, KU hasn't hit one. Sad.

[KC_Connection]

Can't hit threes, other team throws everything up and it goes in. Gonna lose every time.
Other team is only shooting 39% (although 43 from three). Getting killed on the boards, though, so they've taken 13 more shots.

[O.city]

Wvu just has to get it on the board, they'll get another chance

[Reerun_KC]

Love my little Foulhawks... They foul like no other...

[Reerun_KC]

Holton, 20% 3 pt shooter hits two in a row.



Meanwhile, KU hasn't hit one. Sad.


But we dont have a perimeter defense issue....

[KC_Connection]

Pretty glad ISU made that comeback last night. We needed it.

[Ceej]

But we dont have a perimeter defense issue....

Huh?

The guy is hitting 20%.

It isn't like we are going to be in his pocket every time he shoots a three.

[ReynardMuldrake]

What happened to Perry? I didn't see the first half.

[Ceej]

Gotta get a stop here.

[Meatloaf]

What happened to Perry? I didn't see the first half.

Knee got rolled up on. Not good.

[Reerun_KC]

Huh?



The guy is hitting 20%.



It isn't like we are going to be in his pocket every time he shoots a three.


Guy could hit -25% and if you leave him that wide open on back to back 3;s there is a good chance he will make them....

[Lzen]

Keep getting stops and keep attacking the paint.

[morphius]

Other team is only shooting 39% (although 43 from three). Getting killed on the boards, though, so they've taken 13 more shots.

True, but we can't rebound for anything. Our big guys just lose in the paint, and it has been that way a lot.

[Ceej]

Guy could hit -25% and if you leave him that wide open on back to back 3;s there is a good chance he will make them....

Sure, maybe someone who shoots at a higher clip than 20%.

[KC_Connection]

What happened to Perry? I didn't see the first half.
Would not surprise me if we've seen the last of Perry this season.

[KC_Connection]

Mickelson has contributed a lot more than Lucas tonight. Changing shots and forcing turnovers.

[Reerun_KC]

Need to make the FT's.... Its not debatable now... Make the fucking FT's

[KC_Connection]

True, but we can't rebound for anything. Our big guys just lose in the paint, and it has been that way a lot.
Without Cliff, that's going to happen the rest of the season.

[Meatloaf]

Would not surprise me if we've seen the last of Perry this season.

Maybe he just strained the knee and didn't tear anything.....maybe. It didn't look good though.

[Ceej]

Would not surprise me if we've seen the last of Perry this season.

It looked pretty bad. Then KU quiet about half can't be a good thing.

[Buehler445]

What happened to Perry? I didn't see the first half.

Lucas got tackled into him and knee bent the wrong way.

[KC_Connection]

Joke call on Mickelson, no contact there.

[Lzen]

Mickelson has contributed a lot more than Lucas tonight. Changing shots and forcing turnovers.

Definitely!

And as a bonus, he has not injured a teammate.

[morphius]

The way that WV has been running through players all game and that is a foul?

[Reerun_KC]

God dammit take care of the fucking ball..... Sloppy passing asshats

[Meatloaf]

This is the dumbest damn team Self has ever had. Totally and completely dumb. Rocks are smarter.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Knee got rolled up on. Not good.

Well shiiiiiiit.

[KC_Connection]

Leave Mickelson on the court please, Bill. The only guy who has shown anything tonight.

[Ceej]

Man, this team has a bunch of good role players.

It's too bad they don't have a bona-fide stud and a defensive presence in the paint.

[Buehler445]

Like the defensive intensity.

Michelson's given some good minutes. Not really sure why he hasn't gotten more minutes throughout the year.

[O.city]

Graham seems to have alot of Tharpe in him sometimes

[Meatloaf]

Leave Mickelson on the court please, Bill. The only guy who has shown anything tonight.

I think he has 4 fouls.

[O.city]

Mickelson will end up being the next Wither (not just because of white).

[Meatloaf]

Graham seems to have alot of Tharpe in him sometimes

Well said, O.city.

[Ceej]

I think he has 4 fouls.

He has three, I believe.

[Reerun_KC]

Mickelson will end up being the next Wither (not just because of white).


thats racist.....

[Ceej]

Mickelson will end up being the next Wither (not just because of white).

Nope.

[O.city]

Nope.

He was actually a really good shotblocker at arkansas

[Reerun_KC]

Hey stop letting them shot 3s Da fuq guys...

[Buehler445]

JFC. Another career high.

[KC_Connection]

Man, this team has a bunch of good role players.

It's too bad they don't have a bona-fide stud and a defensive presence in the paint.
Cliff was needed to be those things and he just wasn't.

[Ceej]

Miles stares in Greene's face - wasn't the same thing called a technical earlier?

[chiefsfan987]

every time they get within striking distance we throw the ball away and WVU pushes the lead right back out to a comfortable distance.

[Reerun_KC]

JFC. Another career high.


Its kinda getting tiresome to say the least....

Game after game we have to turn some bench scrub into a first team AA player...

Fuck I am tired of it.

[O.city]

Brennan green made some shots this year, but the guys basically worthless.

[KC_Connection]

Mickelson will end up being the next Wither (not just because of white).
Withey was much, much better at the same age. Had a knack for timing that very few do.

[Ceej]

Cliff was needed to be those things and he just wasn't.

Now he will go pro, go lottery, then disappoint like Wright, Selby and Henry.

[O.city]

Oubre needs to play the rest of the game

[Buehler445]

Wow. That UGA guy didn't give a fuck he was covered 8 feet behind the 3 point line. I gotta say I know the feeling watching dudes jack (and make) stupid threes on you.

[KC_Connection]

Now he will go pro, go lotter, then disappoint like Wright, Selby and Henry.
If he's lucky.

[Reerun_KC]

0-12 from 3? How about we stop shooting them and drive the lane to get fouls...

[Buehler445]

Michelson fucked the refs wife.

[Reerun_KC]

Fuck why do we have to keep fouling?

[KC_Connection]

Mickelson out for scrub Lucas.

[TambaBerry]

Mickelson getting bent over by refs

[Meatloaf]

0-12 from 3? How about we stop shooting them and drive the lane to get fouls...

Cause we're too damn dumb to recognize this.....or anything.

[Reerun_KC]

Drive and get fouls.... That is the key to winning this game....

[morphius]

Michelson ****ed the refs wife.

I guess they had to get them in bonus somehow.

[Reerun_KC]

And guess what? We foul after two 3 shots...... Stupid fouling asshats

[Meatloaf]

I said it once and I"ll say it again. Lucas has done NOTHING tonite.

[KC_Connection]

Lucas being in already having its negative effect.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

0-12 from 3? How about we stop shooting them and drive the lane to get fouls...

This.

[Ceej]

Hard rebounding with your back to the rim, Landen.

[KC_Connection]

I said it once and I"ll say it again. Lucas has done NOTHING tonite.
He generally does nothing every night. He's not any good at anything.

[Reerun_KC]

I guess they had to get them in bonus somehow.


Dont blame the refs, its been a season long problem.... We love to foul our ass off in crunch time...

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I said it once and I"ll say it again. Lucas has done NOTHING tonite.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

[Meatloaf]

Game's over gentlemen. We got our hats handed to us......AT HOME.

[Reerun_KC]

Fucking raped Oubre all the way down the court... Finally they called a foul

[Buehler445]

Oubre bringing the pain.

[Meatloaf]

0-13 now???? Thanks Wayne, that was a smart shot. You idiot.

[Ceej]

At least WVU is a bad FT shooting team. Shrugs.

[Buehler445]

How in the actual fuck is that on Oubre?

[morphius]

0-13 now???? Thanks Wayne, that was a smart shot. You idiot.

Law of averages is that they will make one sooner or later.

[Reerun_KC]

And Oubre fouls.... Every possession we just HAVE TO FOUL..... Just an embarrassement that we cant control ourselves...

[TambaBerry]

Ok fuck these refs they call that little bump and nothing fuck them u hope they all die

[Ceej]

Middle school team.

[chiefsfan987]

every time we get to within 6 they just can't get any closer. dang.

[Meatloaf]

Middle school team.

Girls middle school team.

[Ceej]

Traylor and Lucas - please quit shooting.

[Reerun_KC]

Night Night little Foulhawks.... No trophy for you....

[Buehler445]

Have to be disciplined on D.

[Reerun_KC]

Shit I was 10 years old the last time they lost....

[Reerun_KC]

Have to be disciplined on D.


LMAO.........

[Reerun_KC]

WOW brick city....

[Meatloaf]

Traylor cannot get off the floor anymore. Wonder what happened to his legs? No explosion at all.

[Buehler445]

Fuck. That might be ballgame.

[Ceej]

This shit is embarraasing.

[KC_Connection]

Lucas maybe the most uncoordinated big they've ever had.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Time to release the fools gold, Bill.

[Meatloaf]

Game over. You boys have a good rest of night. Signing off.

[Ceej]

Lucas maybe the most uncoordinated big they've ever had.

He falls and dives a lot, so there's that.