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The Franchise
03-06-2015, 01:08 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chiefs re-signing LB Josh Mauga to a 3-year deal worth close to $8 million, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/573922989596606464">March 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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In58men
03-06-2015, 01:09 PM
Dude do you have a life?

The Franchise
03-06-2015, 01:09 PM
Says the guy who posted it at the same time as me.

notorious
03-06-2015, 01:10 PM
LMAO

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
03-06-2015, 01:10 PM
Terrible

In58men
03-06-2015, 01:10 PM
Says the guy who posted it at the same time as me.

I hate you

Strongside
03-06-2015, 01:11 PM
I thought he did a decent job down the stretch.

brucey_72
03-06-2015, 01:11 PM
Why?

Rausch
03-06-2015, 01:11 PM
Fucking mid-range, overpaid, bull$3it......fuck this team...

DJ's left nut
03-06-2015, 01:12 PM
Really?

Blech. I mean, he was slightly better than JMJ but the dude couldn't hold his gap to save his life. I hope that doesn't have much in the way of guarantees and we're left with an easy out after 2 years. I could probably tolerate him for 1 season alongside DJ (because DJ will cover some of his dipshittery) but we still need to be drafting an ILB with an eye on replacing him in short order.

notorious
03-06-2015, 01:12 PM
2.67 mil/year.


Mediocrity cost money now days.

The Franchise
03-06-2015, 01:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Interesting that the Chiefs are finally spending some money. Obviously they&#39;re confident they&#39;ll be far enough under cap on Tuesday</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/573923855686836224">March 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Bootlegged
03-06-2015, 01:16 PM
They will draft ILB in 3rd/4th and let them fight to the death.

Iconic
03-06-2015, 01:19 PM
My hope is Perryman smokes weed at his pro day and falls into the third lol.

BigMeatballDave
03-06-2015, 01:19 PM
Meh. Don't really care.

Certainly nothing to cry about, but this IS Chiefsplanet...

RunKC
03-06-2015, 01:19 PM
As much as I don't like this guy, I wonder what the yearly cap hit is?

Would bet that it's backloaded and he won't see much of it year one

ILChief
03-06-2015, 01:20 PM
Meh. Don't really care.

Certainly nothing to cry about, but this IS Chiefsplanet...

Clay and his band of malcontents will act like Mauga got a JJ Watt deal

CaliforniaChief
03-06-2015, 01:21 PM
The Caucasianfication of the Chiefs continues.

Rausch
03-06-2015, 01:21 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Interesting that the Chiefs are finally spending some money. Obviously they're confident they'll be far enough under cap on Tuesday</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/573923855686836224">March 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Fuck I hate this lazy asshole...

SAUTO
03-06-2015, 01:22 PM
ROFL

Jimmya
03-06-2015, 01:22 PM
Chiefs = All about CONFIDENCE!

DJ's left nut
03-06-2015, 01:22 PM
Meh. Don't really care.

Certainly nothing to cry about, but this IS Chiefsplanet...

If DJ is healthy, the Ted backer is pretty much the 12th most important person on this defense and I could honestly be convinced that the 4th rotational lineman is more important as well, making it the 13th most important spot on this D. Mauga can't really do that much damage either way.

So that kinda makes you question why we gave him actual money to come back.

The structure is what matters. I'd be shocked if this isn't something that could turn into a 2yr/$3 million commitment with marginal dead money pretty easily.

Pasta Little Brioni
03-06-2015, 01:23 PM
Too much for a turd

Rausch
03-06-2015, 01:24 PM
Too much for a turd

We discussed this in a thread earlier.

What we do is sign turds away above value and ignore high talent/priced FA's...

Jim Lahey
03-06-2015, 01:27 PM
We discussed this in a thread earlier.

What we do is sign turds away above value and ignore high talent/priced FA's...

Signing high priced high talented FAs has worked out well for Denver so far, no?

The Franchise
03-06-2015, 01:31 PM
If DJ is healthy, the Ted backer is pretty much the 12th most important person on this defense and I could honestly be convinced that the 4th rotational lineman is more important as well, making it the 13th most important spot on this D. Mauga can't really do that much damage either way.

So that kinda makes you question why we gave him actual money to come back.

The structure is what matters. I'd be shocked if this isn't something that could turn into a 2yr/$3 million commitment with marginal dead money pretty easily.

I'm thinking he'll be gone after this year if we can get an ILB in the draft that's worth a damn.

Rausch
03-06-2015, 01:32 PM
Signing high priced high talented FAs has worked out well for Denver so far, no?

It's worked out far better than what we've done...

Just Passin' By
03-06-2015, 01:33 PM
Signing high priced high talented FAs has worked out well for Denver so far, no?

They reached the Super Bowl two years ago, so...



Yes, it's been working out for Denver.

wazu
03-06-2015, 01:34 PM
Signing high priced high talented FAs has worked out well for Denver so far, no?

I guess so, if winning the division every year and a trip to the Super Bowl count as "worked out".

ModSocks
03-06-2015, 01:34 PM
Damn, Since when did the Vet Min. go up so much?

the Talking Can
03-06-2015, 01:36 PM
do shitty players really get this much now-a-days?


we can't find a replacement level scrub?

BossChief
03-06-2015, 01:37 PM
Oh no

DJ's left nut
03-06-2015, 01:38 PM
I'm thinking he'll be gone after this year if we can get an ILB in the draft that's worth a damn.

Yeah, I think the contract they gave Mays is pretty instructive. Really, DeVito's kindof is as well.

I'm thinking we see something like a $2.6 million signing bonus with a base salary of about $700K in 15, maybe $2.1 million in year 16 and $2.6 million in year three. If he doesn't work out, you can walk away next year and end up saving about 500K in cap space. You overpaid in pure cash but that's Clark's money, not mine. It wouldn't have much impact on the cap either way.

I just think his style is an odd fit. He's a drag tackler and not terribly hard-nosed. If he's the guy we're playing alongside DJ then we're definitely moving away from that 'thumper' mold of strongside ILBs that I'm certainly more used to.

the Talking Can
03-06-2015, 01:39 PM
i mean it's probably ver low guaranteed cash...still 'looks' like a big number for an ass sucker

Jim Lahey
03-06-2015, 01:40 PM
I guess so, if winning the division every year and a trip to the Super Bowl count as "worked out".

Two one and dones to go along with it. Totally worked out well.

OldSchool
03-06-2015, 01:48 PM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! ROFL They really couldn't do better? Really?

In58men
03-06-2015, 01:54 PM
#overpaid

ptlyon
03-06-2015, 01:56 PM
JESUS ****ING CHRIST! ROFL They really couldn't do better? Really?

Reid wanted his ribs recipe

MotherfuckerJones
03-06-2015, 01:57 PM
Guess people would rather get AJ Hawk....

chiefs1111
03-06-2015, 01:58 PM
Because we are the Chiefs

saphojunkie
03-06-2015, 01:58 PM
i mean it's probably ver low guaranteed cash...still 'looks' like a big number for an ass sucker

LMAO

Nightfyre
03-06-2015, 02:03 PM
This deal makes no sense to me. Mauga was consistently in the wrong gap or washed out of plays.

mcaj22
03-06-2015, 02:05 PM
i think theyre getting ready to cut DJ to make space/get under and go cheap at ILBer

Iconic
03-06-2015, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I think the contract they gave Mays is pretty instructive. Really, DeVito's kindof is as well.

I'm thinking we see something like a $2.6 million signing bonus with a base salary of about $700K in 15, maybe $2.1 million in year 16 and $2.6 million in year three. If he doesn't work out, you can walk away next year and end up saving about 500K in cap space. You overpaid in pure cash but that's Clark's money, not mine. It wouldn't have much impact on the cap either way.

I just think his style is an odd fit. He's a drag tackler and not terribly hard-nosed. If he's the guy we're playing alongside DJ then we're definitely moving away from that 'thumper' mold of strongside ILBs that I'm certainly more used to.

I mean Sutton's in the dime so often it doesn't even matter who's next to DJ. I'm just worried we're putting too much stock into him atm when we really need to be looking to move on from DJ via the draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-06-2015, 02:16 PM
And this is the guy you trust to make cap room to sign FA's

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c2/04/47/c20447790fac4ad9999b16024a368617.jpg

Sorter
03-06-2015, 02:17 PM
There goes the Spikes pipe-dream.

RunKC
03-06-2015, 02:21 PM
610 is saying that they are hearing it's a backloaded contract heavy in year 3.

This guy is getting chump change this year and will be not see that heavy cap in year 3 like Fasano and Avery.

Red Dawg
03-06-2015, 02:27 PM
He sucks.

Iconic
03-06-2015, 02:35 PM
There goes the Spikes pipe-dream.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1940520/crying-asian-man-o.gif

BigChiefFan
03-06-2015, 02:36 PM
$2.6 million plus a year for him? Dorsey is complete ass.

Mr. Laz
03-06-2015, 02:51 PM
****ing mid-range, overpaid, bull$3it......**** this team...
:banghead:

consistent goal of being average

competitive enough to get some t.v. games and not embarrass the Hunt family without spending too much money

the Talking Can
03-06-2015, 02:56 PM
found this link on arrowhead pride...tackling efficiency stats

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/10/sig-stats-tackling-efficiency-lbs/

Mauga missed 1 out of every 7 tackles...3rd worst ILB in the league


the best, by comparison, was Laurinaitis who missed 1 out of every 27 tackles

ptlyon
03-06-2015, 02:58 PM
:banghead:

consistent goal of being average

competitive enough to get some t.v. games and not embarrass the Hunt family without spending too much money

The only talent Clark has on his radar is the talent in the season ticket department

Dayze
03-06-2015, 02:59 PM
LMAO....1 out of 7. JFC

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
03-06-2015, 03:01 PM
found this link on arrowhead pride...tackling efficiency stats

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/10/sig-stats-tackling-efficiency-lbs/

Mauga missed 1 out of every 7 tackles...3rd worst ILB in the league


the best, by comparison, was Laurinaitis who missed 1 out of every 27 tackles

He was fucking awful. He had CP morons fooled, though. Won "most underrated Chief" poll.

Mr. Laz
03-06-2015, 03:02 PM
610 is saying that they are hearing it's a backloaded contract heavy in year 3.

This guy is getting chump change this year and will be not see that heavy cap in year 3 like Fasano and Avery.

He shouldn't even be on the roster.

If he is our standard then we suck.

Even backloaded it's still too much to be a backup/ST guy, that's what he should be

BigChiefFan
03-06-2015, 03:04 PM
found this link on arrowhead pride...tackling efficiency stats

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/10/sig-stats-tackling-efficiency-lbs/

Mauga missed 1 out of every 7 tackles...3rd worst ILB in the league


the best, by comparison, was Laurinaitis who missed 1 out of every 27 tackles

I give up on this team. We're the definition of mediocre. I can't believe we treat scrubs like good players.

Mr. Laz
03-06-2015, 03:06 PM
found this link on arrowhead pride...tackling efficiency stats

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/10/sig-stats-tackling-efficiency-lbs/

Mauga missed 1 out of every 7 tackles...3rd worst ILB in the league


the best, by comparison, was Laurinaitis who missed 1 out of every 27 tackles
It's more than just missed tackles.

He has almost no ability to fight through the wash to even try and make all the tackles he should.

DJJasonp
03-06-2015, 03:07 PM
I think with these off season moves threads it should be mandatory to post two gifs....one, the chiefs draft folded-arms guy.....and two, the guy who sets himself on fire and jumps out the window.

the Talking Can
03-06-2015, 03:08 PM
I think with these off season moves threads it should be mandatory to post two gifs....one, the chiefs draft folded-arms guy.....and two, the guy who sets himself on fire and jumps out the window.

and maybe that kid blowing brains out gif

Mr. Flopnuts
03-06-2015, 04:17 PM
610 is saying that they are hearing it's a backloaded contract heavy in year 3.

This guy is getting chump change this year and will be not see that heavy cap in year 3 like Fasano and Avery.

Alright. That makes sense. You read that and think "the fuck?"

aturnis
03-06-2015, 04:20 PM
Over spent BIG on Mauga

saphojunkie
03-06-2015, 04:21 PM
i mean it's probably ver low guaranteed cash...still 'looks' like a big number for an ass sucker

What?

This deal makes no sense to me. Mauga was consistently in the wrong gap or washed out of plays.

Ohhhhh

Mav
03-06-2015, 04:25 PM
Jesus. What are these guys doing?

TEX
03-06-2015, 04:26 PM
Jesus. What are these guys doing?

LOL! Exactly :doh!:

tecumseh
03-06-2015, 04:26 PM
Betcha he's a character guy.

Pablo
03-06-2015, 04:28 PM
LMAO....1 out of 7. JFCYeah, that's not a good look.

Meh.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2015, 04:28 PM
I don't understand this really. Was he really a threat to sign somewhere else in five days or something?

Mav
03-06-2015, 04:29 PM
I don't understand this really. Was he really a threat to sign somewhere else in five days or something?
Apparently he was a big deal.

O.city
03-06-2015, 04:30 PM
How was he against the pass?

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 04:38 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/ltTdYrhonpa1O/giphy.gif

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 04:40 PM
do shitty players really get this much now-a-days?


we can't find a replacement level scrub?

Mauga IS the replacement level scrub.

Dorsey just decided to pay him more than his play has shown to be worth.

Mr. Laz
03-06-2015, 04:40 PM
How was he against the pass?

well he's not fast enough to cover much of anyone


dunno if he understood his assignments or not

He's had 4 PDs, 1 int and .5 sacks in his career

O.city
03-06-2015, 04:41 PM
It could be like 2 mil guaranteed

O.city
03-06-2015, 04:41 PM
well he's not fast enough to cover much of anyone


dunno if he understood his assignments or not

He's had 4 PDs, 1 int and .5 sacks in his career

I thought he was pretty fast, couldn't remember

Mr. Laz
03-06-2015, 04:43 PM
well he's not fast enough to cover much of anyone


dunno if he understood his assignments or not

He's had 4 PDs, 1 int and .5 sacks in his career
well looked up his 40 time and it's pretty decent 4.6-ish

he doesn't play that fast though

Jim Lahey
03-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Jesus. What are these guys doing?

Over paying an average QB

O.city
03-06-2015, 04:44 PM
How old is he?

NJChiefsFan
03-06-2015, 04:45 PM
I didn't expect the depth to be fixed by the beginning of last year so I was never really pissed at Mauga's mistakes. He is what you get when a team has no depth and loses a guy like DJ. I would be fine with him on the team for backup-money. Even back-loaded, that is quite the deal for a guy that we could replace easily enough. The only time I lost it was when he completely shit the bed on his gap coverage during the huge TD run in Oakland that sealed the Chiefs fate for the season.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2015, 04:46 PM
KEY PART OF OUR CHAMPIONSHIP DEFENSE! DORSEY RULES!

#ChiefsFreeAgencySuperBowl

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 04:47 PM
Well, I'm probably a minority of 1, but I don't think this is a bad signing. I believe the guy started pretty much every game for us, and did a good enough job that the defense was pretty darned good. I know he had a ton of missed tackles, but gents, this is a team game and with him at one ILB position, his team had a rather stout defense.

So, there's at least one person on this board that isn't horrified with this signing.

RealSNR
03-06-2015, 04:51 PM
It's official.

Dorsey can't fucking negotiate. He's an awful GM.

He needs to hire a co-GM who can do negotiations similar to how Denny Thum or whoever it was for Carl.

There is absolutely ZERO reason why Josh fucking Mauga, a guy who has NEVER been able to stay healthy before his one year in KC, and who is nothing more than glorified special teams depth, should be receiving THAT MUCH fucking money.

I've seen enough awful and stupid contracts out of Dorsey that now it's time to face the facts. He can't get people signed for what they should, he can't bargain with other teams, and when he does, unless the agent/player is nice, he's going to get fleeced.

O.city
03-06-2015, 04:53 PM
We don't even know how much guaranteed money it's for uet.

Hell it could be like 3 mil guaranteed

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Money aside, what the fuck was the rush?

You're scrambling to clear cap space and you're signing the Mayor of Scrubville?

Does anyone think teams were going to be lighting up Mauga's phone on Tuesday?

Snapplez
03-06-2015, 04:54 PM
We don't even know how much guaranteed money it's for uet.

Hell it could be like 3 mil guaranteed

That would be 3 mil too much for a guy like Mauga

Mav
03-06-2015, 04:59 PM
Over paying an average QB
Awwww, you still ass hurt?

It's okay Jimmy poo.

Even though I agree with you.

Mav
03-06-2015, 05:01 PM
Money aside, what the fuck was the rush?

You're scrambling to clear cap space and you're signing the Mayor of Scrubville?

Does anyone think teams were going to be lighting up Mauga's phone on Tuesday?
Apparently he had a full slate. Dorsey was scared to death of losing this guy.

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 05:01 PM
It's official.

Dorsey can't ****ing negotiate. He's an awful GM.

He needs to hire a co-GM who can do negotiations similar to how Denny Thum or whoever it was for Carl.

There is absolutely ZERO reason why Josh ****ing Mauga, a guy who has NEVER been able to stay healthy before his one year in KC, and who is nothing more than glorified special teams depth, should be receiving THAT MUCH ****ing money.

I've seen enough awful and stupid contracts out of Dorsey that now it's time to face the facts. He can't get people signed for what they should, he can't bargain with other teams, and when he does, unless the agent/player is nice, he's going to get fleeced.

SNR, buddy, easy does it. Do you really think all of these signings and departures are just random one-at-a-time deals? Good heavens, give the front office some credit for at least a modicum of planning/strategizing on this stuff. They've known their players, contracts, cap room, etc for a long time, and I'd imagine that this was all pretty much planned.

Obviously, you don't agree with this particular signing, but why let this relatively minor deal put you over the top as per deciding that Dorsey is a crappy GM?

Pioli had pretty much ruined this franchise and this current regime has had to pretty much pick up the pieces and attempt to construct a competitive team. They've now been at it, what, 2+ years? Gotta give 'em more time than that, don't you???

Mav
03-06-2015, 05:01 PM
That would be 3 mil too much for a guy like Mauga
2.75 too much

TEX
03-06-2015, 05:03 PM
SNR, buddy, easy does it. Do you really think all of these signings and departures are just random one-at-a-time deals? Good heavens, give the front office some credit for at least a modicum of planning/strategizing on this stuff. They've known their players, contracts, cap room, etc for a long time, and I'd imagine that this was all pretty much planned.

Obviously, you don't agree with this particular signing, but why let this relatively minor deal put you over the top as per deciding that Dorsey is a crappy GM?

Pioli had pretty much ruined this franchise and this current regime has had to pretty much pick up the pieces and attempt to construct a competitive team. They've now been at it, what, 2+ years? Gotta give 'em more time than that, don't you???

If I may - it's because Dorsy has shown a pattern of overpaying for average talent.

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 05:03 PM
SNR, buddy, easy does it. Do you really think all of these signings and departures are just random one-at-a-time deals? Good heavens, give the front office some credit for at least a modicum of planning/strategizing on this stuff. They've known their players, contracts, cap room, etc for a long time, and I'd imagine that this was all pretty much planned.

Obviously, you don't agree with this particular signing, but why let this relatively minor deal put you over the top as per deciding that Dorsey is a crappy GM?

Pioli had pretty much ruined this franchise and this current regime has had to pretty much pick up the pieces and attempt to construct a competitive team. They've now been at it, what, 2+ years? Gotta give 'em more time than that, don't you???

Did they "pretty much plan" to be cutting nearly every player they signed over the last two years?

They weren't left crap. The best players on this team have been the best players on this team since Herm Edwards was here.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-06-2015, 05:04 PM
Mauga is a guy you sign in June for the league minimum.

Dorsey may be an average-ish talent evaluator, but that's irrelevant if he can't negotiate a contract or trade to save his life.

Every single FA deal he's made so far (or re-signing) looks like a massive overpay, save Charles.

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 05:05 PM
Mauga is a guy you sign in June for the league minimum.

Dorsey may be an average-ish talent evaluator, but that's irrelevant if he can't negotiate a contract or trade to save his life.

Every single FA deal he's made so far (or re-signing) looks like a massive overpay, save Charles.

This.

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 05:10 PM
Did they "pretty much plan" to be cutting nearly every player they signed over the last two years?

They weren't left crap. The best players on this team have been the best players on this team since Herm Edwards was here.

Wrongo, Warpath. What's the most important position on the team? Who did Pioli leave them at that position? Yeah, they had a few decent players, but the team couldn't win for shit. The attitude of this franchise was abysmal thanks to Scooter. The current regime has had to overcome a lot. And, to my way of thinking, they've done pretty well.

As per best players being from the prior regime, we duh. You counting on a couple of drafts to change that? Ain't gonna happen. Free agent signings have been ok so far, and at least Dorsey's wise enough to know when something didn't work out. He gets bashed for resigning Mauga, but no "credit"for letting other guys like Walker, Mays, etc. go. Kinda can't have it both ways, can you?

OnTheWarpath15
03-06-2015, 05:11 PM
FA signing have been OK so far?

He's cut almost all of them.

LMAO

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 05:19 PM
FA signing have been OK so far?

He's cut almost all of them.

LMAO

Like I said, he gets not credit for not keeping these guys, but gets nailed for signing Mauga to a relatively minor deal. PLUS, how do you know that our defensive coordinator didn't tell Dorsey that he really wanted Mauga on his team?

As per overpaying these guys, another way to look at it is that Dorsey is decisive. He ain't gonna beat around the bush hemming/hawing this and that. He signs the guy. If it works, great....if not, he's gone. To me, it's kind of refreshing compared to Peterson who ALWAYS tried to screw the guy.

Deberg_1990
03-06-2015, 05:23 PM
as a fan, all I care about is winning.

I don't care about a lot of the minutiae honestly.

A lot of these guys are interchangeable from year to year.

locomoulds
03-06-2015, 05:46 PM
Mauga is a guy you sign in June for the league minimum.

Dorsey may be an average-ish talent evaluator, but that's irrelevant if he can't negotiate a contract or trade to save his life.

Every single FA deal he's made so far (or re-signing) looks like a massive overpay, save Charles.

So your saying guys such as:
Sean Smith
Husain Abdullah
Geoff Schwartz
Anthony Sherman

Were all massive over pays. Dorsey is not without faults but to call every signing an over pay is wrong.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2015, 05:59 PM
as a fan, all I care about is winning.


11-12 the last 23 games of the Dorsey regime.

RunKC
03-06-2015, 05:59 PM
Some posters here have no clue about contracts.

The 2013 FA's didn't get the bulk of the money of their contracts that were backloaded. And our dead money is only $11 million right now, $5 million of which came from Pioli contracts to Flowers and Succop.

Dorsey has done a solid job clearing space so far, but he needs to get rid of DeVito and Chase's number by cut or restructure (preferably cut).

RunKC
03-06-2015, 06:00 PM
11-12 the last 23 games of the Dorsey regime.

The very definition of pick and choose.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2015, 06:04 PM
The very definition of pick and choose.

It's not. It's 23 games IN A ROW.

There's a reason the 9-0 team stopped winning at that clip. And that reason is...they were secretly a .500 team.

Discuss Thrower
03-06-2015, 06:08 PM
The very definition of pick and choose.

9-9 in games after Week 8, including one loss in the playoffs.

Aspengc8
03-06-2015, 06:10 PM
It's not. It's 23 games IN A ROW.

There's a reason the 9-0 team stopped winning at that clip. And that reason is...they were secretly a .500 team.

Good to know it had NOTHING to do with injuries. 20-12 over two seasons with a ton of garbage players.

Hammock Parties
03-06-2015, 06:12 PM
Good to know it had NOTHING to do with injuries.

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

Hali and Houston weren't injured last year.

The team is not a contender. It's just treading water until Dorsey does a better job.

ShowtimeSBMVP
03-06-2015, 06:19 PM
I love the people that say this is a bad deal. In today's NFL, this is how you do it. This in all likelihood is really a One year deal. Mauga I bet will only see 2.5m out of the 8m.

SAUTO
03-06-2015, 06:26 PM
Like I said, he gets not credit for not keeping these guys, but gets nailed for signing Mauga to a relatively minor deal. PLUS, how do you know that our defensive coordinator didn't tell Dorsey that he really wanted Mauga on his team?

As per overpaying these guys, another way to look at it is that Dorsey is decisive. He ain't gonna beat around the bush hemming/hawing this and that. He signs the guy. If it works, great....if not, he's gone. To me, it's kind of refreshing compared to Peterson who ALWAYS tried to screw the guy.

IMO if your defensive coordinator REALLY wants a Mauga in the team he needs to be fired

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-06-2015, 06:36 PM
So your saying guys such as:
Sean Smith
Husain Abdullah
Geoff Schwartz
Anthony Sherman

Were all massive over pays. Dorsey is not without faults but to call every signing an over pay is wrong.

You know what? I forgot about Smith.

That's certainly his best move to date. Decent value with Abdullah and Sherman. Schwartz was a one year nothing.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-06-2015, 06:36 PM
I love the people that say this is a bad deal. In today's NFL, this is how you do it. This in all likelihood is really a One year deal. Mauga I bet will only see 2.5m out of the 8m.

Which is about six times what he's worth.

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 06:38 PM
IMO if your defensive coordinator REALLY wants a Mauga in the team he needs to be fired

Jason, I have no idea if he asked to have him on the team or not. Just offering that as an option as per everyone bagging on Dorsey....when perhaps they should be bagging on someone else. But, Dorsey's a big target, so he's obviously the problem. Seems like many might be jumping to conclusions. WHICH, is kinda what makes this board fun. Every night I read this stuff and come away thinking, Meatloaf, you're a really bright fellow. This place is great for my ego. :D

RealSNR
03-06-2015, 06:43 PM
Mauga was the best ILB not named Derrick Johnson this franchise has had since Jovan Belcher.

Therefore... massive overpay! W00t!

kcxiv
03-06-2015, 06:44 PM
He played ok for us. We got other needs, but they adressed this one DJ is back. We just need some damned Oline help in the worst fuckign away, especially when we got Smith under center.

Hog's Gone Fishin
03-06-2015, 06:46 PM
It's worked out far better than what we've done...

The only thing they've achieved is a lower draft pick.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad
03-06-2015, 06:47 PM
I blame Nico Johnson's worthless ass

Hog's Gone Fishin
03-06-2015, 06:50 PM
You know what? I forgot about Smith.

That's certainly his best move to date. Decent value with Abdullah and Sherman. Schwartz was a one year nothing.

Do you Realize Sherman led the team in forced Fumbles last year ????

mcaj22
03-06-2015, 07:08 PM
I love the people that say this is a bad deal. In today's NFL, this is how you do it. This in all likelihood is really a One year deal. Mauga I bet will only see 2.5m out of the 8m.

yea and then we spend a season eating most of the rest of it as dead money like we are currently doing with Mays/Walker.

Like what's the point, sign a shitty guy to a deal he won't fully see only to cut him before it ends and eat a 1/3 of it on your cap for no reason?

Saccopoo
03-06-2015, 07:16 PM
Clay and his band of malcontents will act like Mauga got a JJ Watt deal

Considering his performance, or lack thereof,...he did.

jspchief
03-06-2015, 07:32 PM
I thought he was pretty fast, couldn't remember
Fast enough to run himself out of plays.

Mauga sucks dick, but that contract has to be nearly vet minimum. It's not that outrageous.

The ILB situation in the near future looks bad. Missing completely on Nico Johnson hurts.

BossChief
03-06-2015, 07:33 PM
Chris Ballard negotiates these deals with existing NFL players, not Dorsey.

unlurking
03-06-2015, 07:44 PM
...

He needs to hire a co-GM who can do negotiations similar to how Denny Thum or whoever it was for Carl.

...

Oh god no! :eek:

I'm not ready to go back to wondering if our draft picks will be signed before camp and pissing off stars like Jared Allen.

Maybe someone in-between Dorsey & Peterson! lol

SAUTO
03-06-2015, 07:46 PM
Fast enough to run himself out of plays.

Mauga sucks dick, but that contract has to be nearly vet minimum. It's not that outrageous.

The ILB situation in the near future looks bad. Missing completely on Nico Johnson hurts.

He was playing for someone last year iirc. Sucks he didn't do shit for us

Meatloaf
03-06-2015, 08:15 PM
He was playing for someone last year iirc. Sucks he didn't do shit for us

He had 15 tackles for Cincy last year.

Dave Lane
03-06-2015, 08:30 PM
And this is the guy you trust to make cap room to sign FA's

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c2/04/47/c20447790fac4ad9999b16024a368617.jpg

Mauga was the Chiefs FA move(s).