***Official Car and Gearhead Thread***

[BigRedChief]

Seems like we need one on here to talk cars, mods and the coolness of your or their car.

Interested? Chime in

[KC native]

I'm trading in the Speed3 for this bad boy when it hits dealerships.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GFooSbYG--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bu7qub1jsyvkwsii53re.jpg

[BigRedChief]

I'm trading in the Speed3 for this bad boy when it hits dealerships.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GFooSbYG--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bu7qub1jsyvkwsii53re.jpgDetails man. What does it do that floats your boat?

[KC native]

Details man. What does it do that floats your boat?

2016 Ford Focus RS

315+ HP
AWD with a drift button that sends 70% of the power to the rear wheels
Manual transmission
MSRP should be right around $35K

[ModSocks]

Doesn't this thread exist in a subforum?

[BigRedChief]

Doesn't this thread exist in a subforum?No idea. With search disabled........so I started one here.

[BigRedChief]

2016 Ford Focus RS

315+ HP
AWD with a drift button that sends 70% of the power to the rear wheels
Manual transmission
MSRP should be right around $35KSo you can drift in it?

[KC native]

So you can drift in it?

Yes.

AWD DONUTS FTMFW!

[El Jefe]

Its in the pictures forum: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=153891

[KC native]

Its in the pictures forum: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=153891

I like this one better. I can't visit the pictures sub-forum at work because of the thread titles.

[KC native]

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[BigRedChief]

Yes.

AWD DONUTS FTMFW!LMAO I can stay up with a hellcat through 90mph in my new car. Beyond that, it might be go to jail territory. Never did the burnout/donut thing in my Mustang.

[KC native]

LMAO I can stay up with a hellcat through 90mph in my new car. Beyond that, it might be go to jail territory. Never did the burnout/donut thing in my Mustang.

If you think you got hit with the LiDAR at north of 100, just keep driving until they catch you. :evil:

[BigRedChief]

If you guys have not drove the new automatic 8's that are out there.......you are missing out. It is faster than a manual and shifts like a manual. Copied and pasted from another site............

I am really amazed with my (the) new A8 transmission I have a 2015 R/T 5.7. I am somewhat qualified to make these statements as I have owned and do own many cars, some with manual transmission and some with Autos. I have a 09 Viper ,as example with a Manual transmission and an Auto C6 Corvette among current cars. I even have owned new auto Mustang GTs and a manual GT500 recently so my perspective is pretty broad. Qualifier: I have not recently driven a 2008-2014 auto challenger so those trannies may also behave like the 2015 but with 3 less gears, I just cant remember. So here are a some of my opinions on this unique, almost hybrid transmission in the 2015 Challenger. So for current owners, and those who are considering a A8 here is my list of what I absolutely love about the new A8. At this point I have not found a downside to the A8 so don't look for those comments below. So if your torn between the 2 choices on a new buy, don't be afraid to purchase a 2015 Challenger with an auto 8 speed transmission, here's why:
1) I forget I am driving a automatic. It feels and behaves almost like a manual transmission in many ways. It even down shifts smoothly, raises RPMs and brakes the car when I let off the gas. This saves brake wear and brake dust clean off and I love the engine sounds and feels in touch as much during slow down as accelerating. note: I have never driven a auto that actually down shifts and raises RPMs as if down shifting a manual. Love this feature 100 percent.
2) Manual mode on the floor is perfect. The manual mode is the best engineered system I have used. I would never crave additional paddle shifters on my R/T. The handle is also engineered dang near perfect and is hard to let go of for comfort and great engineering and ergos,
3) Down shifting in manual mode. The manual mode down shifts by itself when slowing if I don't shift down myself. I choose if I want to and it seems instinctive if I ignore the manual down shifts.( other transmissions just go into glide or coast mode) or the ratio of downshifts is so closely matched to the rpm it seems like coast mode.
4) In touch. I still feel very much in touch with the engine even though its a automatic. Its just a solid connection to the entire drive train and not a mushy washing machine feel like many other automatics. Yep the Auto Vette is fine during a tromp down but on slowdown ya know its an auto. I have read a few complaints about downshifting of the A8 driving them nuts but I appreciate it to the max.
5) Responsive and solid feeling always. The reason people buy manuals is to feel connected to the engine and I like that also, but this transmission is an amazing compromise that keeps you connected but one that I can go into lazy mode with without feeling like I am driving a slushy auto. But twitch the accelerator and it is fast to respond with no jerky clunking or delay, its just raw torque, and right now. Even coupled with the smaller 5.7 Hemi this combo rocks.
I can only believe it gets better with a larger engine and the A8.
6) Smooth and fast. It shifts smooth and fast on WOT and when doing spirited driving or slow lazy starts. And most know the A8 is a bit faster at the strip/LOL


I congratulate Dodge on building an amazing car and a auto transmission that is a vast improvement over your competition and one that is as close to a manual as it ever has in automotive history.http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif


Be great to hear other member thoughts and comments on what you also appreciate about the A8 on their R/T Challenger or other models and engine size combos. and years other than the 2015
Shift on... Goodbar

[KC native]

If you guys have not drove the new automatic 8's that are out there.......you are missing out. It is faster than a manual and shifts like a manual. Copied and pasted from another site............

Those types of transmissions have come a long way. A manual is still more fun (despite being slower).

[The Franchise]

Honda Pilot vs. Dodge Durango? Go.

[KC native]

Honda Pilot vs. Dodge Durango? Go.

1. Kill both with fire
2. Collect insurance check
3. Buy a real car
4. ???????
5. Profit

[hometeam]

I'm trading in the Speed3 for this bad boy when it hits dealerships.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GFooSbYG--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/bu7qub1jsyvkwsii53re.jpg

call me :)

[The Franchise]

1. Kill both with fire
2. Collect insurance check
3. Buy a real car
4. ???????
5. Profit

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a fucking minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

[hometeam]

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a ****ing minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

Durangos are trash. Pilots are overpriced, bad fuel economy, decent vehicles.

You can find a better option to take care of those needs~

[seclark]

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a ****ing minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

LMAO

[The Franchise]

Durangos are trash. Pilots are overpriced, bad fuel economy, decent vehicles.

You can find a better option to take care of those needs~

What are my better options? We're looking at sticking around the $20-$25k price range.

[TribalElder]

35k for a Ford Focus that wishes it was a WRX

Why the **** would you do that


Seriously

[KC native]

call me :)

Free delivery to Texas?

[KC native]

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a fucking minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

Well played sir.

But a hot hatch would be perfect. A back seat for your kids and a hatch area for the ones you don't care about.

[KC native]

35k for a Ford Focus that wishes it was a WRX

Why the **** would you do that


Seriously

Because the WRX Sti is $45k. The Focus is a great platform and will have better numbers than the Lesbaru for about $10k less than the lesbaru.

[hometeam]

Free delivery to Texas?

We can work it out. I have delivered cars to Alaska before.

[KC native]

We can work it out. I have delivered cars to Alaska before.

:hmmm: I'm intrigued.

Is there going to be a wait list/sign up list for the RS? They've said it's coming in limited numbers but they haven't said how limited it will be.

[MIAdragon]

35k for a Ford Focus that wishes it was a WRX

Why the **** would you do that


Seriously

Im a big fan of the WRX but this Focus is no joke.

[MIAdragon]

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a ****ing minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

Holy crap, 6 kids.

[The Franchise]

Holy crap, 6 kids.

No....I have 3 kids. My brother has 3 kids. They all go to the same school. On days when I need to pick them up....I need to be able to pick up all 6 of them.

[Pablo]

Jesus. Driving around with six kids sounds like a fucking nightmare. Just get the model with the cup holder that fits your 40 oz. the best. That's what I'd do.

[KC native]

No....I have 3 kids. My brother has 3 kids. They all go to the same school. On days when I need to pick them up....I need to be able to pick up all 6 of them.

Problem solved.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UGuyjBL_sxs/maxresdefault.jpg

[The Franchise]

Problem solved.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UGuyjBL_sxs/maxresdefault.jpg

When can I expect your donation?

https://dayair.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Cash-Loan.jpg

[KC native]

No....I have 3 kids. My brother has 3 kids. They all go to the same school. On days when I need to pick them up....I need to be able to pick up all 6 of them.

Or

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Mercedes-Benz-CLS250-Shooting-Brake-profile.jpg

Or

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/wagons/1108_d3_cadillac_cts_v_wagon_test/33135986/d3-cadillac-cts-v-wagon-front-three-quarter-burn-out.jpg

[KC native]

When can I expect your donation?



Just have another kid or two. The child tax credit should cover the down payment then. :p

Or buy one used.

[Pablo]

Just buy a short bus. You could pick up another six kids or so on your way in and make some extra bank.

[MIAdragon]

No....I have 3 kids. My brother has 3 kids. They all go to the same school. On days when I need to pick them up....I need to be able to pick up all 6 of them.

Maybe a Tahoe/Denali XL.

[KC native]

Just buy a short bus. You could pick up another six kids or so on your way in and make some extra bank.

LMAO

Dicky McElephant's school shuttle service.

[MIAdragon]

Or

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Mercedes-Benz-CLS250-Shooting-Brake-profile.jpg

Or

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/wagons/1108_d3_cadillac_cts_v_wagon_test/33135986/d3-cadillac-cts-v-wagon-front-three-quarter-burn-out.jpg

Have one of the bottom ones, you're not fitting 3 kid seats in there.

[KC native]

Have one of the bottom ones, you're not fitting 3 kid seats in there.

Where there is a will, there's a way.

[hometeam]

:hmmm: I'm intrigued.

Is there going to be a wait list/sign up list for the RS? They've said it's coming in limited numbers but they haven't said how limited it will be.

They havent given us any real information yet. We have a Ford rep that comes and does training every month or two im going to bombard him next time he gets here. I doubt there will be a wait list like its the Ford GT or a gt350r mustang or something.

It will be comparably small production etc but im hoping we will be able to get whatever.

[rtmike]

As far as those wagons go, you could always put your kids in the booster seats on back seat & your brothers kids in back. I know I sure like mine. I can throw my wheelchair in the back & then grab hold of the top edge of car to shuffle my way to the drivers door.

I like just about all makes from the muscle car era. Not so much with today's rigs. Also happen to favor the Pentastar (Mopar) products.
It seems as though the merge with Fiat has really helped. First thing they did was rework all the cheap, plastic feel interiors. They've also started slowly eliminating the cross hair grills.
There's a new special edition Ram pick up without the cross hair too.


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[Radar Chief]

No....I have 3 kids. My brother has 3 kids. They all go to the same school. On days when I need to pick them up....I need to be able to pick up all 6 of them.

Do what my parents did, throw a bunch of lawn chairs in the back of a pickup truck and tell the kids they had better hold on tight.

[rtmike]

Needing ideas for what color to paint my rotors on my Magnum?

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/th_a298e272.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/rtmike472/media/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/a298e272.jpg.html)

They're not Brembos so I'm trying to avoid red.

Some of my ideas were to clear coat 'em after wire wheeling them.
-black

Not really feeling white.


...ideas...

[Radar Chief]

Know anyone that has tried Rhinotire yet?

http://www.rhinotire.com/

[KC native]

They havent given us any real information yet. We have a Ford rep that comes and does training every month or two im going to bombard him next time he gets here. I doubt there will be a wait list like its the Ford GT or a gt350r mustang or something.

It will be comparably small production etc but im hoping we will be able to get whatever.

:thumb:

[rtmike]

Know anyone that has tried Rhinotire yet?

http://www.rhinotire.com/


Thanks for the link. I'm gonna have to check that out. The last thing I need is a flat. Something as simple as a flat would have me dead in the water/not going anywhere Snickers moment.

[Reerun_KC]

We sprayed my sons Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 with Desert Tan and Black Liner... Www.sprayonbedliner.info. Then plasti dipped his wheels from www.dipyourcar.com.

[Reerun_KC]

109397

Here is the finished product.. . It was red and we took all the emblems off.

[Radar Chief]

Well there's your problem.

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[SAUTO]

Needing ideas for what color to paint my rotors on my Magnum?

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/th_a298e272.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/rtmike472/media/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/a298e272.jpg.html)

They're not Brembos so I'm trying to avoid red.

Some of my ideas were to clear coat 'em after wire wheeling them.
-black

Not really feeling white.


...ideas...

i sure hope you mean calipers...

[The Franchise]

Durangos are trash. Pilots are overpriced, bad fuel economy, decent vehicles.

You can find a better option to take care of those needs~

So what kind of options do you think are better?

[SAUTO]

When can I expect your donation?

https://dayair.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Cash-Loan.jpg

im driving a tahoe on 22s with 40K that i paid under 20 for. 2007, and fucking nice.

i paid 27 for my 2010 LTZ that has under20K but i stole it...

[MIAdragon]

i sure hope you mean calipers...

He is, but could mean the hat part of the rotor as well.

[SAUTO]

He is, but could mean the hat part of the rotor as well.

yeah that normally wont show. and i cant see a paint he is gonna put on himself staying on that.

[hometeam]

Well as I said, Pilots are fine but they are poor poor fuel mileage.

off the top of my head?

new body explorer, Ford Flex, Toyota Highlander, 5.3 Tahoes, Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave, Mazda cx-9 and of course, vans, What you really need is a van.

[SAUTO]

the acadia/traverse had MAJOR issues up until 2010 IIRC

[The Franchise]

Well as I said, Pilots are fine but they are poor poor fuel mileage.

off the top of my head?

new body explorer, Ford Flex, Toyota Highlander, 5.3 Tahoes, Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave, Mazda cx-9 and of course, vans, What you really need is a van.

I already have a van. The kids are getting old enough now that all of them can fit in an SUV with a 3rd row just fine.

[BigRedChief]

They havent given us any real information yet. We have a Ford rep that comes and does training every month or two im going to bombard him next time he gets here. I doubt there will be a wait list like its the Ford GT or a gt350r mustang or something.

It will be comparably small production etc but im hoping we will be able to get whatever.You tell that Ford rep that he lost a customer for one of his GT500's with this years redesign. I went over to the Challenger. Mustangs were still selling great. Why fuck with that? Good luck selling them in Europe because Ford is dead to me.:harumph:

[hometeam]

You tell that Ford rep that he lost a customer for one of his GT500's with this years redesign. I went over to the Challenger. Mustangs were still selling great. Why **** with that? Good luck selling them in Europe because Ford is dead to me.:harumph:


Best looking and best performing mustang Ford has ever built. :)

[lewdog]

Agreed. The new Mustang design is horrible. Too Euro looking.

[stevieray]

Best looking and best performing mustang Ford has ever built. :)
IDK, saw a bone stock mach 1 yesterday...:drool:

[Al Bundy]

I will say out front I am very anti Ford, but I agree with Lew. Those new Mustangs are even uglier than the previous gen's.

[Al Bundy]

1. I've got 3 kids in booster seats.
2. I have to be able to haul 6 kids if necessary.
3. I drive a ****ing minivan right now.
4. ?????
5. Blow me.

You forgot
6. I need it to be windowless.

[The Franchise]

You forgot
6. I need it to be windowless.

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[Silock]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

[BigRedChief]

Best looking and best performing mustang Ford has ever built. :)http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/14/14ff2b3b4b83ef88a0ccb596cc2ef4e138bf96554ee8d5542817cfd2a93db2f1.jpg

[BigBeauford]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

Miata for best driving feel, fun factor, just have to put up with the jokes. Mustang for straight line speed a little more practicality. I would vote Miata, but it depends on the Mustang. If you look hard, many Mach 1 Stangs from the 2000's can be had for under 10K in good condition.

[Radar Chief]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

What are your plans for it?
Weekend, sunny day cruiser you just want to top of with gas and drive: Miata.
Plan on wrenching on it, slowly building it as you have money: Mustang.
Though if your plan is the later I would suggest something GM (Camaro, Nova, Chevelle) just because on a bang per buck basis it's hard to beat a small block Chevy.

[Silock]

I have a 72 Chevelle, but it needs a frame off restoration. I don't have those skills or time or money.

[Baby Lee]

I have a 72 Chevelle, but it needs a frame off restoration. I don't have those skills or time or money.

I'm half tempted to have you call my dad.

I'm quarter tempted to move back in with mom and dad and call you myself.

My first car was a frame off 69 SS, we transplanted with a block up restoed 283 [pops thought I needed a HP restriction]. He's in the middle of a total resto of the 69 SS LT1 he bought new as a young man.

He has all the tools and hoists and English wheels and welding equipment.

Only thing we haven't taken on is upholstery. I put lightly used Recaros in mine. Though, I did custom install new carpet.

Are you talking mostly body work, interior, systems, drivetrain or the whole shebang?

[MIAdragon]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

I've got a 99 Cobra I never drive. What are you looking for?

[Silock]

Miata for best driving feel, fun factor, just have to put up with the jokes. Mustang for straight line speed a little more practicality. I would vote Miata, but it depends on the Mustang. If you look hard, many Mach 1 Stangs from the 2000's can be had for under 10K in good condition.

Yeah, it would definitely be a late model Mustang. Do the new body styles still have the 4.6? I've heard that engine is pretty worthless unless you go FI.

I've had a Miata before and would be happy with one, but only because it was fun to drive around on curvy roads. Those don't really exist here in KS, so I'm tempted to shy away from it.

[Silock]

Are you talking mostly body work, interior, systems, drivetrain or the whole shebang?

It needs the whole treatment, if it's even salvageable. My parents bought the car in 72 when they got married. Drove it for a few years, then it sat in a garage rusting until I turned 16. They gave it to me and I drove it for a few years, but it was too unreliable to keep, so it's been sitting in their garage for the last 15 years.

It was rusting back in the 90s when I drove it. It had a hole in the trunk floor back then and rust on the roof. I don't even want to imagine where all the rust is that I can't even see. I don't know how to repair that kind of damage.

The interior is also bad, but that's the easy stuff. Drivetrain is probably all rusted, and I know it doesn't have the original engine anymore. I'd definitely upgrade the transmission and rearend. It's an automatic with a 2.73 rear. Yuck.

But it's always been my dad's dream to someday restore it. He just doesn't have the time or energy to do it, and I don't have the funds.

[Silock]

I've got a 99 Cobra I never drive. What are you looking for?

Something trackable/fun to street.

[MIAdragon]

Something trackable/fun to street.

It's a stock motor car with a full Griggs Racing GR40 setup. Let me see if I can dig up some pics.

[SAUTO]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

ROFL TELL me what you are looking for and I'll find it.

[SAUTO]

Silock, you have an old Cheville and I'm your huckleberry. Pm me. you willing to put in some work and we can build that fucker to kill some shot

[SAUTO]

Shot not shot. Stupid autocorrect

[lewdog]

We all could use a little more Jasonsauto in all of our lives.

[stevieray]

I've been doing art for almost two decades, but I would love to work on rebulids of classic muscle cars.

I really wish I knew someone who could put me to work. Love working with my hands.

[hometeam]

Shot not shot. Stupid autocorrect

soooo.. shot?

[Miles]

Best looking and best performing mustang Ford has ever built. :)

Also a big fan of the restyle and more than anything finally modernizing the platform.

[Marcellus]

I've been doing art for almost two decades, but I would love to work on rebulids of classic muscle cars.

I really wish I knew someone who could put me to work. Love working with my hands.

If I could have a new career, that would be very close to the top of my list. I practically live in my garage.

[stevieray]

If I could have a new career, that would be very close to the top of my list. I practically live in my garage.
so glad spring is here. ready to work on my van.

[SAUTO]

soooo.. shot?

Lol lol maybe but I'm your biggest fan...

[SAUTO]

We all could use a little more Jasonsauto in all of our lives.

ROFL ME TOO

[SAUTO]

If I could have a new career, that would be very close to the top of my list. I practically live in my garage.

Me too. I, live in my garage everyday and love every minute

[SAUTO]

I've been doing art for almost two decades, but I would love to work on rebulids of classic muscle cars.

I really wish I knew someone who could put me to work. Love working with my hands.

I wish you weren't so far away

[MIAdragon]

I've been doing art for almost two decades, but I would love to work on rebulids of classic muscle cars.

I really wish I knew someone who could put me to work. Love working with my hands.

Hear hog farmer is always looking for a good hand or two.

[stevieray]

I wish you weren't so far away

:(

thanks, brother!!

[MIAdragon]

so glad spring is here. ready to work on my van.

I've got a new project I'm dying to start on too!!!

[stevieray]

Hear hog farmer is always looking for a good hand or two.
....you could've yelled FORE first...:thumb:

[Silock]

It's a stock motor car with a full Griggs Racing GR40 setup. Let me see if I can dig up some pics.

That sounds tasty.

[Silock]

Silock, you have an old Cheville and I'm your huckleberry. Pm me. you willing to put in some work and we can build that fucker to kill some shot

Definitely willing. I just honestly don't know where to start. I'd definitely have to trailer it to you. I doubt it will even start up.

[BigRedChief]

Me too. I, live in my garage everyday and love every minuteI would rather be driving a sweet ride than fixing the car. People love working on their cars. Wouldnt let anyone else touch it. Not my thing, But thats just me.:p

[MIAdragon]

That sounds tasty.

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[Silock]

Nice!

[Baby Lee]

It needs the whole treatment, if it's even salvageable. My parents bought the car in 72 when they got married. Drove it for a few years, then it sat in a garage rusting until I turned 16. They gave it to me and I drove it for a few years, but it was too unreliable to keep, so it's been sitting in their garage for the last 15 years.

It was rusting back in the 90s when I drove it. It had a hole in the trunk floor back then and rust on the roof. I don't even want to imagine where all the rust is that I can't even see. I don't know how to repair that kind of damage.

The interior is also bad, but that's the easy stuff. Drivetrain is probably all rusted, and I know it doesn't have the original engine anymore. I'd definitely upgrade the transmission and rearend. It's an automatic with a 2.73 rear. Yuck.

But it's always been my dad's dream to someday restore it. He just doesn't have the time or energy to do it, and I don't have the funds.

Yeah, funds is a big deal, but if you're not looking for a numbers resto, you have one of the best platforms on earth to get back into shape, if you have the dough. Engine and drivetrain are a no brainer with scads of options from new crate engines to a junk yard rescue. And nearly every part, panel, doodad and whatsit on that car is available in repro and NOS [new old stock]. You could literally map everything you want fixed and there's someone who has an exact match, down to just a portion of a rear quarter panel, or as you say a trunk bed. Lost the original lighter insert? Got it. Headlights dead. Got 'em. Turn signals, ditto. etc.

Then there's obviously making the repairs, drivetrain, body and/or interior, yourself with elbow grease, and becoming a car swap [like a flea market for gear heads] bum looking for deals, which will cost more time but significantly less money.

[Radar Chief]

Silock, you have an old Cheville and I'm your huckleberry. Pm me. you willing to put in some work and we can build that ****er to kill some shot

Well there you go.
Don't be shy, jump on that offer.

[Baby Lee]

Well there you go.
Don't be shy, jump on that offer.

What's a Cheville?*





* - I actually know a Cheville, but that's a different matter.

[Radar Chief]

I've got a new project I'm dying to start on too!!!

Oh yea, same here. Got some things going on for both my Jeep and Momma's '57.
She thinks she wants to drive her '57 to Greaserama this year. I'm a bit nervous, definitely taking a fire extinguisher.

[Baby Lee]

Oh yea, same here. Got some things going on for both my Jeep and Momma's '57.
She thinks she wants to drive her '57 to Greaserama this year. I'm a bit nervous, definitely taking a fire extinguisher.

Vintage or Hot Rod?

[Radar Chief]

Vintage or Hot Rod?

Hot Rod and it's got a spliced together rats nest for wiring.

[KC native]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

1. Buy a miata with a shot motor
2. Remove miata motor
3. Install LS motor variant of your choice
4. Install roll cage
5. Drive the piss out of it.
6. ???????
7. Profit.

[Baby Lee]

Hot Rod and it's got a spliced together rats nest for wiring.

Yeah, that was one of the more daunting parts of my Nova rebuild.

We actually spliced several cars together, Initial car was a 4cyl 2dr with 4wh drum brakes, but a pristine main body. Front frame and rear end from an SS. Fender here, hood there, trunk lid from Timbuktu. Then had to rerun wires for EVERYTHING.

[ModSocks]

I want to pick up a project car. Under $10k. Debating between a Miata and a Rustang.

Do a rat-rod. I think they're cool, i wanna do one someday. They don't cost nearly as much as other projects can, you can use junkyard parts and you don't have to worry about painting it!

[ModSocks]

Needing ideas for what color to paint my rotors on my Magnum?

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/rtmike472/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/th_a298e272.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/rtmike472/media/My%20rides/2005%20Magnum%20RT/a298e272.jpg.html)

They're not Brembos so I'm trying to avoid red.

Some of my ideas were to clear coat 'em after wire wheeling them.
-black

Not really feeling white.


...ideas...

Are they factory brakes? If so, black. I wouldn't bring attention to them if they're particularly small and sitting behind a large wheel.

Are the calipers aluminum? If so, you might be able to polish them. My friend did that to his Camaro, had them professionally polished, it looked pretty cool.

[ModSocks]

I'm quarter tempted to move back in with mom and dad and call you myself.



LMAO

[BigRedChief]

I will say out front I am very anti Ford, but I agree with Lew. Those new Mustangs are even uglier than the previous gen's.https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11083786_981217195221786_7035288869352505161_n.jpg?oh=f8c34c638982c77cb9b8c01d02cbb963&oe=55B11471&__gda__=1434654665_dc98aca757fca666300cce3f41fd16d7

Just kidding. I love my 2005 Mustang.

[rtmike]

Are they factory brakes? If so, black. I wouldn't bring attention to them if they're particularly small and sitting behind a large wheel.

Are the calipers aluminum? If so, you might be able to polish them. My friend did that to his Camaro, had them professionally polished, it looked pretty cool.

Stock. The wheels were came from the factory on the Challenger Classic.
R/T stripe from a Challenger too.


Yeah, black's been my choice so far but I'm liking that idea of polishing them out. I'm the person that takes his wheels off so he can clean/polish the insides of the wheels. With my Charger I'll also tire shine the inside walls.
All that work "might" get noticed each summer.
I was reading an auto rag editor talking about how to take pix of your hot rod
He said to always get all 4 wheels/tires in the shot.

[ModSocks]

Stock.
I was reading an auto rag editor talking about how to take pix of your hot rod
He said to always get all 4 wheels/tires in the shot.

Low, front 3/4 angle is always the sexiest angle imo.

[rtmike]

White Mustang.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z187/FL2005gt/04.jpg (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/FL2005gt/media/045_zps8946800d.jpg.html)

Those are bad ass little cars. Back when I worked, a buddy was big into Mustangs. He built a 10 second pig out of one.

His birthday cake & 600 HP horse. He likes Mustangs.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11063492_956971074335756_7740981880322270097_n.jpg?oh=d08b88ac7419f8658b0e2dad26d4feb6&oe=557E82CA&__gda__=1438309280_9012b350093e7355206dbc3238bce62e

https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10670124_10204198175867747_1050521471547042373_n.jpg?oh=67154b5ed29e932fa55d567f8b2ddf9f&oe=5584CB3B

[Baby Lee]

Low, front 3/4 angle is always the sexiest angle imo.

That's how I like to photo them, especially the longer they are.

Rando Example

[ModSocks]

That's how I like to photo them, especially the longer they are.

Rando Example

Yup, like that. Turn the wheels in too and you can show off the rim/brake.

[Baby Lee]

Yup, like that. Turn the wheels in too and you can show off the rim/brake.

That guy was cruising by IIRC and it was just a quick snap, hence the poor centering

[Hamwallet]

LMAO I can stay up with a hellcat through 90mph in my new car. Beyond that, it might be go to jail territory. Never did the burnout/donut thing in my Mustang.

Do you have a new stingray? Besides exotics that's all that is keeping up with a hellcat that is stock.

[MIAdragon]

Do you have a new stingray? Besides exotics that's all that is keeping up with a hellcat that is stock.

CTS-V

[Silock]

1. Buy a miata with a shot motor
2. Remove miata motor
3. Install LS motor variant of your choice
4. Install roll cage
5. Drive the piss out of it.
6. ???????
7. Profit.

I thought about that, but I've never welded before. Welding in new motor mounts sounds like not something I want to do as a first-timer.

[KC native]

I thought about that, but I've never welded before. Welding in new motor mounts sounds like not something I want to do as a first-timer.

Have a buddy that welds help or take it to a shop for that part.

My dad is a highly skilled welder and I told him I wanted to do that and like you I've never welded, he said, "That is simple junkyard welding. Just practice on a piece before doing the welds. Since it doesn't have to pass an x-ray test or look pretty, it's pretty hard to fuck it up."

[BigRedChief]

White Mustang.


Those are bad ass little cars. Back when I worked, a buddy was big into Mustangs. He built a 10 second pig out of one.

His birthday cake & 600 HP horse. He likes Mustangs.


I loved my Mustang. Coolest car I ever owned. At least for another 8 weeks. Pic is after 144K miles and 10 years.
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10440755_10203889094002390_4673719151582594514_n.jpg?oh=52dda94981c3144a8640ca27d2be1c4e&oe=55B80F26

[rtmike]

Have a buddy that welds help or take it to a shop for that part.

My dad is a highly skilled welder and I told him I wanted to do that and like you I've never welded, he said, "That is simple junkyard welding. Just practice on a piece before doing the welds. Since it doesn't have to pass an x-ray test or look pretty, it's pretty hard to **** it up."


Anyone ever check to see if someone was making a bolt in motor mount? For my Charger I used an outfit that specialized in them.

[KC native]

Anyone ever check to see if someone was making a bolt in motor mount? For my Charger I used an outfit that specialized in them.

To do the swap, the motor mount has to be moved several inches. I don't think it's possible to have a bolt in motor mount in that situation.

[Radar Chief]

Have a buddy that welds help or take it to a shop for that part.

My dad is a highly skilled welder and I told him I wanted to do that and like you I've never welded, he said, "That is simple junkyard welding. Just practice on a piece before doing the welds. Since it doesn't have to pass an x-ray test or look pretty, it's pretty hard to **** it up."

Yea, but there are a lot of things to be considered before striking an arc.
You don’t want the engine sitting too high in the chassis, creates handling and hood clearance issues, too low and it’s hitting the oil pan on everything, have to consider clearance front and back (firewall and radiator), the engine will probably have to be offset about an inch to the passenger side to clear the steering shaft and it has to be tilted back at about 6-8 degrees for consistent oil flow.
If a pair of bolt in adaptor mounts from a place like Advanced Adapters is available that’s the route to take because positioning and angles have already been worked out for you.

[Radar Chief]

To do the swap, the motor mount has to be moved several inches. I don't think it's possible to have a bolt in motor mount in that situation.

Stacey David on Gearz did this very thing, LS into a Miata.
If anyone is truly interested back episodes are on YouTube.

[KC native]

Yea, but there are a lot of things to be considered before striking an arc.
You don’t want the engine sitting too high in the chassis, creates handling and hood clearance issues, too low and it’s hitting the oil pan on everything, have to consider clearance front and back (firewall and radiator), the engine will probably have to be offset about an inch to the passenger side to clear the steering shaft and it has to be tilted back at about 6-8 degrees for consistent oil flow.
If a pair of bolt in adaptor mounts from a place like Advanced Adapters is available that’s the route to take because positioning and angles have already been worked out for you.

There are a couple outfits that make the motor mounts and tell you where they have to be installed (there's a Ford version and LS version).

[MIAdragon]

I thought about that, but I've never welded before. Welding in new motor mounts sounds like not something I want to do as a first-timer.

There are bolt in kits but you're looking at atleast 10k in swap parts.

[Perineum Ripper]

So do you think they make adapters to mount a LS into my sweet Ford Fiesta

[ModSocks]

There are bolt in kits but you're looking at atleast 10k in swap parts.

This.

LSx swaps into Miatas and Rx-7's/8's are pretty popular. There's probably conversion kits out there for them.

We just sold a specialty part to a race team that swapped an LS into a Hyundai Genesis.

[Marcellus]

I loved my Mustang. Coolest car I ever owned. At least for another 8 weeks. Pic is after 144K miles and 10 years.
https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10440755_10203889094002390_4673719151582594514_n.jpg?oh=52dda94981c3144a8640ca27d2be1c4e&oe=55B80F26

Is that thing 4-wheel drive or something? Get some drop on it for God's sake. :p

[BigRedChief]

Is that thing 4-wheel drive or something? Get some drop on it for God's sake. :pOkay, car n00b here I don't know what this means. What is getting a drop?

[TrebMaxx]

Okay, car n00b here I don't know what this means. What is getting a drop?
Lowering it. :thumb:

[Hamwallet]

http://youtu.be/0ZPbeEUWZ6s

[Radar Chief]

Okay, car n00b here I don't know what this means. What is getting a drop?

LMAO

[BigRedChief]

LMAOgo ahead and point and laugh at the n00b. Deserve it. A full grown man should have more information on how cars work than I. I'm getting up to speed.:harumph:

I learned a helluva lot finding out about gears, how it transfers energy and how it makes the Scat Pack Shaker stay in the same neighborhood(at least till 90mph) against the Hellcat.

[Radar Chief]

go ahead and point and laugh at the n00b. Deserve it. A full grown man should have more information on how cars work than I. I'm getting up to speed.:harumph:

Don't sweat it, we all start somewhere.

[BigRedChief]

Lowering it. :thumb:Yeah, I've seen a lot of people lowering their Challengers. Seems expensive to me. I've already got a 392 Hemi 6.4L 485HP engine to move me down the road.

Don't know if I need to gain more speed by changing the car's height to battle natures laws that will slow me down.

[lewdog]

My soon to be used Mustang is lowered. I just hope it makes it up the driveway curb! ROFL

[ModSocks]

My soon to be used Mustang is lowered. I just hope it makes it up the driveway curb! ROFL

It's awful. The front of my Firebird sits an inch, maybe two at the most off the ground. It looks great while it's sitting around, looks great in motion as well.....

But man.....its such a pain in the ass to drive. I have to approach every curb, every dip in the road and every slopped driveway with caution. I usually cant pull all the way into a parking spot or i risk ****ing up the front of the car.

Finding a place to change my oil or tires? PFFFFFF.......most lifts cant get under my car.

Tow Truck? Yeah ****ing right. Flat bed only, and even then i have to lodge 2x4's under it to get it onto the ramp.

Its a blessing and a curse.

[BigRedChief]

Just saw a commercial for dodge and the movie Fast and Furious 7. My SCAT Pack Shaker is the main car in the movie. Only thing different is I deleted the Shaker stripe and they had that big Dayton spoiler on it.

[MIAdragon]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people lowering their Challengers. Seems expensive to me. I've already got a 392 Hemi 6.4L 485HP engine to move me down the road.

Don't know if I need to gain more speed by changing the car's height to battle natures laws that will slow me down.

aesthetics, chap, purely aesthetics.

[hometeam]

aesthetics, chap, purely aesthetics.

Yep, cant stand stock height wheel gaps and offset. Even my lowly Focus DD is lowered and stanced.

[Radar Chief]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people lowering their Challengers. Seems expensive to me. I've already got a 392 Hemi 6.4L 485HP engine to move me down the road.

Don't know if I need to gain more speed by changing the car's height to battle natures laws that will slow me down.

It's more about looks than performance.

[BigRedChief]

aesthetics, chap, purely aesthetics.ahhh, that makes more sense. People just like the way their cars look lowered.

Sounds similar to changing exhausts.

I see these comments on the boards of better performance and gas mileage when they change their exhaust to some performance cat back. Just BS in my opinion. They are changing their exhaust to get that low rumble and louder sound. Gas mileage my ass.:shake:

[lewdog]

It's awful. The front of my Firebird sits an inch, maybe two at the most off the ground. It looks great while it's sitting around, looks great in motion as well.....

But man.....its such a pain in the ass to drive. I have to approach every curb, every dip in the road and every slopped driveway with caution. I usually cant pull all the way into a parking spot or i risk ****ing up the front of the car.

Finding a place to change my oil or tires? PFFFFFF.......most lifts cant get under my car.

Tow Truck? Yeah ****ing right. Flat bed only, and even then i have to lodge 2x4's under it to get it onto the ramp.

Its a blessing and a curse.

Damn that sounds really lowered! I had my FIL measure and it's a bit under 6" I guess. Which doesn't seem lowered much but he said he had it done. We measured our sloped curve driveway and we think we'll clear by 1.5 inches.

[lewdog]

ahhh, that makes more sense. People just like the way their cars look lowered.

Sounds similar to changing exhausts.

I see these comments on the boards of better performance and gas mileage when they change their exhaust to some performance cat back. Just BS in my opinion. They are changing their exhaust to get that low rumble and louder sound. Gas mileage my ass.:shake:

When is your sex machine arriving?

[BigRedChief]

When is your sex machine arriving?tentative build date is 4/20.

[Radar Chief]

ahhh, that makes more sense. People just like the way their cars look lowered.

Sounds similar to changing exhausts.

I see these comments on the boards of better performance and gas mileage when they change their exhaust to some performance cat back. Just BS in my opinion. They are changing their exhaust to get that low rumble and louder sound. Gas mileage my ass.:shake:

See, you're learning already. :thumb:
You're dead on, cat back systems don't improve flow enough to make much difference so you're just changing the sound.

[Radar Chief]

tentative build date is 4/20.

Good date. :bong:

[Marcellus]

It's awful. The front of my Firebird sits an inch, maybe two at the most off the ground. It looks great while it's sitting around, looks great in motion as well.....

But man.....its such a pain in the ass to drive. I have to approach every curb, every dip in the road and every slopped driveway with caution. I usually cant pull all the way into a parking spot or i risk ****ing up the front of the car.

Finding a place to change my oil or tires? PFFFFFF.......most lifts cant get under my car.

Tow Truck? Yeah ****ing right. Flat bed only, and even then i have to lodge 2x4's under it to get it onto the ramp.

Its a blessing and a curse.

I know what you are saying.

I have 4" I think at this point between the ground and my lowest suspension points. I had to raise the front 1/2" and the rear about an inch this weekend in prep for its first drive since tear down, paint, and new front suspension. Hasn't been on the road in 2.5 years but I plan to get it out Friday for some test drives.


http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/IMG_3179_zpsabe7601e.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/IMG_3179_zpsabe7601e.jpg.html)

Interior needs finished.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/B8F4B645-1464-4465-AA7E-10D978CB9ABB_zpsuksbd1ge.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/D98BEED0-E012-4128-A238-2BC7CC423024_zpsntwe6myx.jpg.html)

Carb will be gone soon and replaced with fuel injection.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/860EEE53-AB62-4E06-9725-0186491C3324_zps7oz0cml7.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/860EEE53-AB62-4E06-9725-0186491C3324_zps7oz0cml7.jpg.html)

Only need 2 things to get her done, time and $.

[SAUTO]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people lowering their Challengers. Seems expensive to me. I've already got a 392 Hemi 6.4L 485HP engine to move me down the road.

Don't know if I need to gain more speed by changing the car's height to battle natures laws that will slow me down.

Most cars aren't lowered for speed, it's for looks.

[lewdog]

tentative build date is 4/20.

ROFL

Reschedule that! Don't want dudes being high getting that ready!

[BigRedChief]

See, you're learning already. :thumb:
You're dead on, cat back systems don't improve flow enough to make much difference so you're just changing the sound.There is some guy saying that and another comes back with yes it does. Whatever.

There is a mod I was looking at that put a cold air intake system, performance cat back and a computer chip in that gained 58HP on my car. I guess its not some company BS to sell the mod. Actual users have put it on their cars and posted the results.

I'm afraid of putting those mods on because I could blow the warranty right out of the box plus its a damn fast car already. Don't want to kill myself having a little fun.

[SAUTO]

Good looking ride Marcy.

[Marcellus]

Most cars aren't lowered for speed, it's for looks.

Pro-touring trend is huge and they would say its performance handling based.

I actually have the TCI Pro Touring Clip on my car,which means it will handle like a stock Civic rather than a brick now. :p

[Marcellus]

Good looking ride Marcy.

Thanks its been a long haul but I can almost see the end of the tunnel.

Interior, audio, injection, and some new wheels and tires and I am done for a few years until I get to have my turbo LSX motor I want. :evil:

[Radar Chief]

Dayam! Sweet ride Marcellus.

[Hamwallet]

go ahead and point and laugh at the n00b. Deserve it. A full grown man should have more information on how cars work than I. I'm getting up to speed.:harumph:

I learned a helluva lot finding out about gears, how it transfers energy and how it makes the Scat Pack Shaker stay in the same neighborhood(at least till 90mph) against the Hellcat.

http://youtu.be/0ZPbeEUWZ6s

[Marcellus]

Radar (and everyone else) if you haven't seen this yet you need to. Its kind of long but this car is ridiculous.

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[BigRedChief]

ROFL

Reschedule that! Don't want dudes being high getting that ready!You would have to be crazy to smoke some weed and then get behind the wheel of a car with that much power.:shake:

[BigRedChief]

Most cars aren't lowered for speed, it's for looks.Nothing wrong with that. Same with the cat back exhaust. Just admit your doing it for looks or just because you like it. Don't say its for performance. It's your car. Make it your own however you want it.

No one on here is saying that. Just a pet peeve of mine as I read and learn.

[lewdog]

So about keeping that black paint looking good Marcellus .......


ROFL

[Marcellus]

So about keeping that black paint looking good Marcellus .......


ROFL

Oh I know, I know.

[hometeam]

I may have posted these randomly before. The 2 cars I miss the most.

Chad from Modified by KC tuning my subie on e85

<iframe width="480" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DtOr-zQ1H18" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


my 505 WHP 10 second full weight T/A

<iframe width="480" height="270" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/x3QGlNHSeAk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[irocdave]

I bought my wife a 2000 TA that looked almost like yours, wasn't a SLP car though. It had some weird Pontiac NHRA package on it, 3.42's, Hurst shifter for the 6 speed manual but 16" rims and no R/A hood.

My dad was a Chevy guy so I grew up listening to his glory day stories of the SS's he used to have and the fun he had with them. I'm a fan of all muscle cars and some of the Asian performance cars. I'm still a fan of some of the American stuff that came out in the late 80's and early 90's and love seeing them holding their own against todays best performance cars. Of course they have been modified, but the root for the under dog in me is strong.

Back in the day (90's) Supra's were the shit. This guy though had a legendary car from the 80's that every Supra owner was aware of.
youtube.com/watch?v=hsjx0LgtoDA

Yea, not the turbo, multi point fuel injected V6 Buick sent it out the door with in the mid 80's, but still bad ass.

One of the cars I really like is located in Norway. It's a third gen Trans Am. It was also the fastest car in Europe for a while.
autoblog.com/2008/12/22/europes-fastest-street-legal-car-is-a-252-mph-pontiac-trans

Great video of the car recently. Paul hired a German driver to try it top the previous best 252.xx MPH best. The German driver backed out after a test drive.
youtube.com/watch?v=gkNfo3vZHWg

[hometeam]

Supras you say?

Well i was looking for the vid of me getting down with a super nasty supra, but I found a vid of my car (previous owner) vs a corvette~

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/apMSsGagZzo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

also my WRX vs a heavily modded GTO (almost had em!)

<iframe width="640 height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o3giEuSQpRE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

My WRX vs a 500+ WHP lightning. he likes to pretend he won~

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QNAb1-YPCiY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

wrx vs a sprayed I/E/heads GTO

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5wHptU7WI10" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[hometeam]

my t/a again. Damn i miss that car ughhhh

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[hometeam]

oooooh and before anyone beats me up for racing.. heres a classic.

First angles is one from MO HiPo SUV, and one from the cameraman in the lightning (me)

second angle is the aftermath LOL

they where mad~ I walked away. My buddy Travis got to go to jail :)

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[ModSocks]

Damn that sounds really lowered! I had my FIL measure and it's a bit under 6" I guess. Which doesn't seem lowered much but he said he had it done. We measured our sloped curve driveway and we think we'll clear by 1.5 inches.

Its not that it's slammed or anything, its just that the front of the car is so long in front of the tires and it has a front lip/valance on it.

Looks cool, but it makes me appreciate cars that are "just" cars.

[irocdave]

You bought your TA heavily modded?

Supras are known as dyno queens for a reason. Funny how the lighter, more powerful Supra always seemed to lose to lesser cars unless it was a roll from 100MPH.

My brother has an 05 GTO that's heavily modded. 406 aluminum stroker, LS3 ported heads, .600+ lift HD roller, carbon fiber one piece DS, to much stuff to list here. That thing is stupid fast and dead hooks on street tires on the street. Low 11's on street tires and he dam near daily drives it. Looks totally stock, doesn't sound anywhere near stock.

[hometeam]

Yea, the T/A was the first car I bought already done. Wont ever go back, lost no money on it, lost tons of money on everything else I have done.

And the Supra ate my lunch too lol. Something like 900 WHP, but it was closer than you would expect looking at WHP numbers. Got 2 races in, a dig and a 40 roll. T/A was a fully built 4l60e, full suspension, everything. Supra was nasty though.

[Baby Lee]

http://youtu.be/0ZPbeEUWZ6s

Heh, watched that and at midpoint said to self; 'looks like a low 11 run.'

[ghak99]

No time or extra cash for the projects so they just sit around. :sulk:

[BigRedChief]

Need some opinions on exhausts. Car will be a 6.4L 392 Hemi 485HP Scat Pack Shaker.

Probably going to put a new exhaust on my car. The you tube videos are helpful in determining sound but its inexact. Too much depends on the quality of the sound and video. Since I've not heard many in person, I'm suspecting you guys have. Or at least point me to sounds that are on you tube that more closely match what you hear in person.

what I'm going to be going for is that low rumble and as minimal drone inside the car as possible. No interested in just some kind of loud BS option like glass packs back in my teenage days just to be louder.

I'm willing to spend the money on a good cat back system if that's whats needed.

[Perineum Ripper]

I have always been a fan of Borla exhaust on cars with big V8s

[ghak99]

If you had your grandfather's original '31 coupe which was given to him by his father, what would you do with it?

I can't bring myself to rat rod it and can't see dumping a pile of cash into something I'd probably never drive.

[KC native]

If you had your grandfather's original '31 coupe which was given to him by his father, what would you do with it?

I can't bring myself to rat rod it and can't see dumping a pile of cash into something I'd probably never drive.

Give it to me.

[SAUTO]

If you had your grandfather's original '31 coupe which was given to him by his father, what would you do with it?

I can't bring myself to rat rod it and can't see dumping a pile of cash into something I'd probably never drive.

Do we know each other? LMAO

I literally just left a guys house from looking at his 36 Chevy that was his moms and grandmas before that.

He's got a lt1 and auto od we are gonna drop in with a rack and pinion, ifs, and then do the rest like it looked in 36. Gonna be a cool rig when it's done.

[MIAdragon]

Nothing wrong with that. Same with the cat back exhaust. Just admit your doing it for looks or just because you like it. Don't say its for performance. It's your car. Make it your own however you want it.

No one on here is saying that. Just a pet peeve of mine as I read and learn.

Actually it does increase handling quite a bit as well.

[Radar Chief]

what I'm going to be going for is that low rumble and as minimal drone inside the car as possible.

Stay away from Flow Master Series 40's then. They're notorious for having a bad drone right around 2000 RPM, or right about where most cars are geared to cruise at.
I've got a pair on my Jeep and they're no different, must say though that the droning mellows out a bit once good and fully warmed up.

[SAUTO]

Actually it does increase handling quite a bit as well.

Depends how it's done...

[ghak99]

Do we know each other? LMAO

I literally just left a guys house from looking at his 36 Chevy that was his moms and grandmas before that.

He's got a lt1 and auto od we are gonna drop in with a rack and pinion, ifs, and then do the rest like it looked in 36. Gonna be a cool rig when it's done.

Who knows, we might. I used to mud race with my brother in law all over central Missouri back in the day. Tore the shit out of every class the pit at Cole Camp had back when the hillbillies still thought no one could make a truck walk on water. They made it pretty clear we were to never come back. LMAO

I think it needs to stay original, but damn, I'm not a big parade driving fan and car shows are boring as **** to me. I'd lose my last name if I sold it and everyone seems happy that it's just sitting in my building. I've got dad's '69 camaro and my 5.0 stang from college collecting dust right along with it. It takes a pile of ****ing cash and time to do them right and I can't seem to find either for any of them.

[MIAdragon]

Depends how it's done...

I'm assuming we are not cutting stock springs a la the Honda civic crowd.

[SAUTO]

I'm assuming we are not cutting stock springs a la the Honda civic crowd.
ROFL

[Radar Chief]

I'm assuming we are not cutting stock springs a la the Honda civic crowd.

Heh yea. Just heat the springs with a torch until you get the amount of drop you're looking for. What could go wrong with that? ;)

[SAUTO]

Heh yea. Just heat the springs with a torch until you get the amount of drop you're looking for. What could go wrong with that? ;)

It was a lot cheaper when I was young and dumb.

[Radar Chief]

It was a lot cheaper when I was young and dumb.

LMAO Truth.

[TrebMaxx]

Need some opinions on exhausts. Car will be a 6.4L 392 Hemi 485HP Scat Pack Shaker.

Probably going to put a new exhaust on my car. The you tube videos are helpful in determining sound but its inexact. Too much depends on the quality of the sound and video. Since I've not heard many in person, I'm suspecting you guys have. Or at least point me to sounds that are on you tube that more closely match what you hear in person.

what I'm going to be going for is that low rumble and as minimal drone inside the car as possible. No interested in just some kind of loud BS option like glass packs back in my teenage days just to be louder.

I'm willing to spend the money on a good cat back system if that's whats needed.

That is one car I would keep completely stock. JMHO

[BigRedChief]

Most cars aren't lowered for speed, it's for looks.The SCAT Pack 6.4L 485HP are already damn fast.

People are getting <4.0 time in the 0-60 time and a low 12's 1/4 mile time out of the SCAT Pack. Here's one of the ones that I seen that they posted the results to prove it wasn't BS.

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=402002&d=1426808187

[MIAdragon]

The SCAT Pack 6.4L 485HP are already damn fast.

People are getting <4.0 time in the 0-60 time and a low 12's 1/4 mile time out of the SCAT Pack. Here's one of the ones that I seen that they posted the results to prove it wasn't BS.

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=402002&d=1426808187

Really, a car on drag radials at the strip. That's like me saying V's are cutting 1.7 60's because on slicks on a sticky track I ran that time. I get you're just getting into the car scene but guys are going to eat you alive if you're not careful.

[BigRedChief]

That is one car I would keep completely stock. JMHOYeah, I'm planning on a badge or two and depending on the sound considering a cat back system.

Besides that, I'm keeping it as it came from the factory. I ordered the car. I'm getting what I wanted already.

People are saying these first year SCAT Pack Shakers may be worth money some day because they are the same block as the Hellcat and they are not making many of them. Oh well, its a daily driver for me. I got that damn car to enjoy it, not as an investment. Life is just too damn short to have a car like that and not drive it? Sacrilege.:rolleyes:

[BigRedChief]

Really, a car on drag radials at the strip. That's like me saying V's are cutting 1.7 60's because on slicks on a sticky track I ran that time. I get you're just getting into the car scene but guys are going to eat you alive if you're not careful.No idea the meaning behind your words. Why does drag radials mean a <4.0 0-60 time is BS. I've seen others posted with sub 4.0's.

As far as me being a n00b, I'm not pretending to be otherwise anywhere I visited so far. I don't know shit. It would be useless to pretend otherwise.

[MIAdragon]

Yeah, I'm planning on a badge or two and depending on the sound considering a cat back system.

Besides that, I'm keeping it as it came from the factory. I ordered the car. I'm getting what I wanted already.

People are saying these first year SCAT Pack Shakers may be worth money some day because they are the same block as the Hellcat and they are not making many of them. Oh well, its a daily driver for me. I got that damn car to enjoy it, not as an investment. Life is just too damn short to have a car like that and not drive it? Sacrilege.:rolleyes:

Just keep the stock parts If you ever decide to go back stock. As for value, with the amount of "specialty" cars being pushed out I can't see many cars really climbing in value all that much. Drive it, enjoy it be happy.

[lewdog]

Hey BRC, how long is your daily commute with this ride?

[hometeam]

Who keeps a car stock? I bought a daily hatchback to put my kid in the back. Day 1 had it debaged, tinted, window guards. Add free mods, drop in, springs, RCAs, stanced it and more.

If had that Dodge I would mod the shit out of it. Intake/exhaust/tune #1~

[MIAdragon]

No idea the meaning behind your words. Why does drag radials mean a <4.0 0-60 time is BS. I've seen others posted with sub 4.0's.

As far as me being a n00b, I'm not pretending to be otherwise anywhere I visited so far. I don't know shit. It would be useless to pretend otherwise.

All I'm saying is careful throwing around numbers, car guys can be ruthless and call bulllshit. Be careful about selling shit on the net as gospel it just makes you look bad if it turns out to be bs. That's it bud not trying to throw shade on you.

[Marcellus]

I have always been a fan of Borla exhaust on cars with big V8s

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/C34C5BC3-68E7-4CE5-B928-54B0EBE5C1D6_zpskqnslu8s.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/C34C5BC3-68E7-4CE5-B928-54B0EBE5C1D6_zpskqnslu8s.jpg.html)

I will soon find out how much I like Borla mufflers. All stainless 3" through the XR1 mufflers to 2.5" tailpipes. (no tailpipes in the picture)

A little higher pitched than I am used to.. Will drive it tomorrow for the fist time.

[BigRedChief]

Yeah, I'm planning on a badge or two and depending on the sound considering a cat back system.

Besides that, I'm keeping it as it came from the factory. I ordered the car. I'm getting what I wanted already.I forgot I'm also going to tint the windows and install an alarm.

[Miles]

Who keeps a car stock? I bought a daily hatchback to put my kid in the back. Day 1 had it debaged, tinted, window guards. Add free mods, drop in, springs, RCAs, stanced it and more.

If had that Dodge I would mod the shit out of it. Intake/exhaust/tune #1~

For whatever reason I prefer stock and have little interest in mods. Though can defiantly see the appeal of screwing around with stuff like that.

[BigRedChief]

All I'm saying is careful throwing around numbers, car guys can be ruthless and call bulllshit. Be careful about selling shit on the net as gospel it just makes you look bad if it turns out to be bs. That's it bud not trying to throw shade on you.You mean like this site?:)


But point taken. I have no idea or background to tell if numbers are inflated or real.

[Marcellus]

I forgot I'm also going to tint the windows and install an alarm.

Is there really a need for an alarm in this day and age? Doesn't the car have anti theft technology built in?

Its a push button ignition isn't it? RFID keyfob?

[hometeam]

Is there really a need for an alarm in this day and age? Doesn't the car have anti theft technology built in?

Its a push button ignition isn't it? RFID keyfob?

Right.

The car has a built in alarm, chipped key,(or proximity key) etc. Dont let some dude cut up your shit with some janky aftermarket alarm. He will have to blow the dust off of it in the back room thats how long its been since he last sold one.

[Miles]

Right.

The car has a built in alarm, chipped key,(or proximity key) etc. Dont let some dude cut up your shit with some janky aftermarket alarm. He will have to blow the dust off of it in the back room thats how long its been since he last sold one.

One of my neighbors has one of those old school alarms that is, not surprisingly, a over sensitive. Have wondered if it would be legal to have it towed to an open field and torched.

[MIAdragon]

One of my neighbors has one of those old school alarms that is, not surprisingly, a over sensitive. Have wondered if it would be legal to have it towed to an open field and torched.

Office space style.

[MIAdragon]

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/C34C5BC3-68E7-4CE5-B928-54B0EBE5C1D6_zpskqnslu8s.jpg (http://s541.photobucket.com/user/troyacupp/media/C34C5BC3-68E7-4CE5-B928-54B0EBE5C1D6_zpskqnslu8s.jpg.html)

I will soon find out how much I like Borla mufflers. All stainless 3" through the XR1 mufflers to 2.5" tailpipes. (no tailpipes in the picture)

A little higher pitched than I am used to.. Will drive it tomorrow for the fist time.

Why would you choke a 3" system with 2.5 tails?? Love the XR1's running the race bullets in my turbo car.

[BigRedChief]

Is there really a need for an alarm in this day and age? Doesn't the car have anti theft technology built in?

Its a push button ignition isn't it? RFID keyfob?There are some dumbshit teenagers around me. They may think you can smash a window and hot wire the car.ROFL

The anti-theft stuff is not listed on the purchase order. Cool. I've not bought a car in 10 years. Standard stuff these days huh?

[Miles]

Just my preference but I wouldn't be quick to mod that Challenger. Particularly with a special car like that and power modes might just help you ruin tires faster and make it less manageable to have fun with. Maybe an exhaust but imagine it will sound badass right when you get it.

[SAUTO]

Right.

The car has a built in alarm, chipped key,(or proximity key) etc. Dont let some dude cut up your shit with some janky aftermarket alarm. He will have to blow the dust off of it in the back room thats how long its been since he last sold one.

this especially for sure.

[BigRedChief]

this especially for sure.What about paint sealant. How long do you wait before putting it on? I had a guy put it on 10 years ago when I bought my Mustang. Still looks good after 144K miles. Wish I could remember what it was? But anyway surely the tech has come a long ways in 10 years.

Do I buy it myself and put it on? Go professional? Do you guys do this?

[SAUTO]

What about paint sealant. How long do you wait before putting it on? I had a guy put it on 10 years ago when I bought my Mustang. Still looks good after 144K miles. Wish I could remember what it was? But anyway surely the tech has come a long ways in 10 years.

Do I buy it myself and put it on? Go professional? Do you guys do this?
I'm the worst guy to ask, I have a guy who does all this for me.

I occasionally spray it off anymore. Look in lew's thread, this has been discussed recently by people who know better than I do.

[SAUTO]

I'm just saying to not let some asshole alarm installer start chopping into your wires.

[Marcellus]

Why would you choke a 3" system with 2.5 tails?? Love the XR1's running the race bullets in my turbo car.

The fit between the cross member and the floor pan was too tight for 3".

Once you get past the mufflers you "should" already have enough back pressure the smaller pipe shouldn't matter, meaning the mufflers will restrict as much as the 2.5" pipe.

That being said I am not yet sold on the XR1 sound. I drove it today for the first time and it sounds awesome at idle and low RPM but I shit you not it sounds like straight pipes when I get on it at all. I think its the straight through flow design it basically is straight pipes.

[Marcellus]

There are some dumbshit teenagers around me. They may think you can smash a window and hot wire the car.ROFL

The anti-theft stuff is not listed on the purchase order. Cool. I've not bought a car in 10 years. Standard stuff these days huh?


Yea don't waste your $. Without the Fob they wont be able to steal your car. And if they do insurance covers that. :D

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

I have a Challenger Hellcat coming on April 2nd. Can't freaking wait!

[lewdog]

So any problems on this BRC? Orders for Hellcat suspended?

Sales of the 707-horsepower Dodge Challenger Hellcat have taken off a little too fast, apparently. Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, which makes the retro-styled uber-musclecar, has temporarily stopped taking orders while it sorts out a backlog.
So far, Fiat Chrysler has over 9,000 orders for the performance car, company spokesman Dan Reid said. About 2,200 Challenger Hellcats are already on the road.
Dodge dealers also stopped taking orders for the Charger Hellcat, a four-door sedan with the same engine.
Fiat Chrysler had recently issued a very unusual statement warning consumers that some Dodge dealers were taking orders for Hellcats they might not be able to deliver. Each dealer is only allowed to sell a certain number of Hellcats. But some dealers were taking orders -- and even cash deposits -- for more than that.
The temporary stop on ordering will give Fiat Chrysler time to sort out the tangle of customer orders and dealer allotments. The automaker has not decided how to handle cases in which dealers have taken orders in excess of their allotment.
It is also unclear when ordering of the cars will resume, Reid said.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/18/autos/dodge-challenger-hellcat-orders-suspended/

[MIAdragon]

The fit between the cross member and the floor pan was too tight for 3".

Once you get past the mufflers you "should" already have enough back pressure the smaller pipe shouldn't matter, meaning the mufflers will restrict as much as the 2.5" pipe.

That being said I am not yet sold on the XR1 sound. I drove it today for the first time and it sounds awesome at idle and low RPM but I shit you not it sounds like straight pipes when I get on it at all. I think its the straight through flow design it basically is straight pipes.

Ah, figured you were running the 3" XR1's. As for the volume as you break them in they will just get louder. You can run a resonator if its too much.

[MIAdragon]

What about paint sealant. How long do you wait before putting it on? I had a guy put it on 10 years ago when I bought my Mustang. Still looks good after 144K miles. Wish I could remember what it was? But anyway surely the tech has come a long ways in 10 years.

Do I buy it myself and put it on? Go professional? Do you guys do this?

There is a pretty decent detailer up in the tampa area I will get his info for you. Have him correct it then run something like cquartz finest.

[Marcellus]

I have a Challenger Hellcat coming on April 2nd. Can't freaking wait!


Damn! I am jealous.

[Reerun_KC]

Gonna start rebuilding my 69 camaro after my daughters wedding in July

[BigRedChief]

So any problems on this BRC? Orders for Hellcat suspended?



http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/18/autos/dodge-challenger-hellcat-orders-suspended/depends on who you ask. There are people with restricted on the build orders. That can't even get confirmation that their car will ever be built. Dodge cut off orders on the SCAT Pack Shaker last year after 4 days. But this is the car that will be a featured in the new Fast and Furious movie. Why would they miss that marketing opportunity to sell cars?

No one thinks there will be a lot of them built. But I have solid confirmation that mine will be built the week of 4/20.PBJ

[Reerun_KC]

Setting it up as a pro tour car with a turbo ls . can't wait to start. Been 13 years since she has seen the road .

[Baby Lee]

:bong::bong:depends on who you ask. There are people with restricted on the build orders. That can't even get confirmation that their car will ever be built. Dodge cut off orders on the SCAT Pack Shaker last year after 4 days. But this is the car that will be a featured in the new Fast and Furious movie. Why would they miss that marketing opportunity to sell cars?

No one thinks there will be a lot of them built. But I have solid confirmation that mine will be built the week of 4/20.PBJ

:bong::bong:

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Just in case someone is interested, I'm selling my 79 Corvette since I'm getting the Hellcat. Over $25,000 invested. Selling for $16,900 if I don't have to sign a one year storage contract on April 2nd. 500 miles on new engine, steering, suspension, tires wheels, radiator, rebuilt trans and rear end, and much more.

[Hydrae]

If you had your grandfather's original '31 coupe which was given to him by his father, what would you do with it?

I can't bring myself to rat rod it and can't see dumping a pile of cash into something I'd probably never drive.

I love hot rods as much as anyone but if that thing is mostly stock, you have to restore it. I will someday inherit the family 1924 Oakland that my grandfather pulled out of a barn in '59. He worked on restoring it (still has the original motor and some original interior material even) and my dad and I have been re-working it the last couple of years. Were all set to take it a show last year but had an oiling issue on a couple of cylinders that seized the motor so we are rebuilding yet again.

My siblings all know me and my love of hot rods and tried for a long time to convince my dad that he shouldn't pass it to me (the oldest) because they were sure I would turn it into a street rod. While it would look great that way and certainly be unusual, there is no way I would do that to a piece of automotive history like that. If it was a rusted hulk in a field, absolutely do what you want. If it is mostly stock, it should be preserved to pass along history.

[ghak99]

I love hot rods as much as anyone but if that thing is mostly stock, you have to restore it. I will someday inherit the family 1924 Oakland that my grandfather pulled out of a barn in '59. He worked on restoring it (still has the original motor and some original interior material even) and my dad and I have been re-working it the last couple of years. Were all set to take it a show last year but had an oiling issue on a couple of cylinders that seized the motor so we are rebuilding yet again.

My siblings all know me and my love of hot rods and tried for a long time to convince my dad that he shouldn't pass it to me (the oldest) because they were sure I would turn it into a street rod. While it would look great that way and certainly be unusual, there is no way I would do that to a piece of automotive history like that. If it was a rusted hulk in a field, absolutely do what you want. If it is mostly stock, it should be preserved to pass along history.

It's all stock, but at some point someone robbed whatever was left of the interior out of it. It was parked in a storage building left over from when the family owned the telephone company and it just sit there for decades until the foundation popped and I needed to tear it down. Put a 5 gallon bucket on the plywood floor, popped it in neutral, and pulled it down the road a few blocks to its new dust collecting home a few years ago.

The motor will roll by hand, but I didn't go any farther than that. The metal is all there and decent but the top is just a flimsy shell as it had the panel top and supports. The guts of the trunk are rough but it looks like you can damn near buy every piece of these coupes.

[lewdog]

Just in case someone is interested, I'm selling my 79 Corvette since I'm getting the Hellcat. Over $25,000 invested. Selling for $16,900 if I don't have to sign a one year storage contract on April 2nd. 500 miles on new engine, steering, suspension, tires wheels, radiator, rebuilt trans and rear end, and much more.

Not that I will be buying but just wanted to see some pictures if you were wiling to post?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Not that I will be buying but just wanted to see some pictures if you were wiling to post?
There are a few here http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/4932027052.html

[rtmike]

People were ordering the Hellcats from several different dealerships so hard telling how many were actually spoken for.

[Marcellus]

Took her on the road yesterday for the first time in 2.5 years. Went out again today for some shakedown.

http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/65%20Chevy%20II/th_4BBDD88B-47E1-4CB6-A800-829BCCEC9AD6_zpsmjithbsu.mp4 (http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg361/troyacupp/65%20Chevy%20II/4BBDD88B-47E1-4CB6-A800-829BCCEC9AD6_zpsmjithbsu.mp4)

[BigRedChief]

People were ordering the Hellcats from several different dealerships so hard telling how many were actually spoken for.they have made and sold 62K Hellcats according to Dodge.

The SCAT Pack Shaker is no longer for sale. It's off the website in USA and Canada. Every order that has been made since Wednesday has a greyed out restriction label on the Shaker package. Last year they cut off orders after 4 days. Looks like orders were taken for 5 days this year.

[Miles]

they have made and sold 62K Hellcats according to Dodge.

The SCAT Pack Shaker is no longer for sale. It's off the website in USA and Canada. Every order that has been made since Wednesday has a greyed out restriction label on the Shaker package. Last year they cut off orders after 4 days. Looks like orders were taken for 5 days this year.

Hopefully you are good since it sounds like you made your decision and ordered exactly what you wanted just in time before the cutoff.

I'm actually a little surprised the number of Hellcats was so high. More the number and not the demand which is not surprising.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

They've made less than 3000 Challenger Hellcats thus far. And even less Charger Hellcat.

[TrebMaxx]

They've made less than 3000 Challenger Hellcats thus far. And even less Charger Hellcat.

That is why I would not mod that beast. You will have a rare care that even if you drive as a dd it will still be valuable in the future. If you do mod it make sure to keep all the stock parts.

[BigRedChief]

They've made less than 3000 Challenger Hellcats thus far. And even less Charger Hellcat.Sorry guys, the number was 6,200 sold or ordered. There will be duplicates from guys playing the allocation game. But, won't those duplicates be easily sold?

[Miles]

That is why I would not mod that beast. You will have a rare care that even if you drive as a dd it will still be valuable in the future. If you do mod it make sure to keep all the stock parts.

Completely agree. I'm not big on modding cars but even less of a fan with rare one. Also the dealer is likely not to be a fan of any mods and use that to not do warranty work.

[BigRedChief]

Hopefully you are good since it sounds like you made your decision and ordered exactly what you wanted just in time before the cutoff. .I'm in D1 status with a scheduled build date of 4/20. Supposedly, according to the Dodge geeks on websites when you get to D1 status its a done deal that your car will get built.

Dodge is advertising the fuck out of the Scat Pack Shaker with the Fast and Furious 7 movie tie in. Why are they doing that when they have taken the car off their websites and all sales with the "Shaker" are restricted and greyed out?

[Miles]

I'm in D1 status with a scheduled build date of 4/20.

Dodge is advertising the fuck out of the Scat Pack Shaker with the Fast and Furious 7 movie tie in. Why are they doing that when they have taken the car off their websites and all sales with the "Shaker" are restricted and greyed out?

Guessing it's more with their brand image and selling regular Challengers. Usually these specialty cars are not a volume car for the domestic manufactures.

[BigRedChief]

Guessing it's more with their brand image and selling regular Challengers. Usually these specialty cars are not a volume car for the domestic manufactures.So guy comes into the dealership and says where is that car from the movie and TV ads.......well we don't have those but we do have these great Challengers that are almost the same.

Does that schtick work?

[TrebMaxx]

So guy comes into the dealership and says where is that car from the movie and TV ads.......well we don't have those but we do have these great Challengers that are almost the same.

Does that schtick work?
The old bait and switch! :hmmm:

[hometeam]

So guy comes into the dealership and says where is that car from the movie and TV ads.......well we don't have those but we do have these great Challengers that are almost the same.

Does that schtick work?

yes because with it they dangle the price difference.

[Miles]

So guy comes into the dealership and says where is that car from the movie and TV ads.......well we don't have those but we do have these great Challengers that are almost the same.

Does that schtick work?

I'm guessing they point that guy right to the Challengers they have on the lot.

In general the flagship specialty cars of the typical sellers are usually not profitable for the manufacture but guessing they are with something as hot as the Challenger ones. Sometimes they even take heavy loss on them like the Lexus LFA.

[Miles]

BRC we need some pics when you get this beast.

[lewdog]

Where will you be placing that Chiefs bumper sticker BRC?

[Miles]

Where will you be placing that Chiefs bumper sticker BRC?

He better not. And you should not do the same to damage the mustang.

[lewdog]

He better not. And you should not do the same to damage the mustang.

ROFL

It was a mere joke. Bumper stickers are tacky on any ride. I'd never do that, especially on a car supposed to be cool. But the wife and I laugh when we do see it. Especially the crooked ones on nice cars. LMAO

[BigRedChief]

That is why I would not mod that beast. You will have a rare care that even if you drive as a dd it will still be valuable in the future. If you do mod it make sure to keep all the stock parts.yep, its a daily driver. Will be putting the miles on it. But, it will be treated with loving care.:rolleyes:

As of right now these mods/after market items are the ones I'm doing for sure.

Tint the windows
Color correct and seal the paint


Still considering
Floor mats if I get the Dodge floor mats
Badging the spoiler
Cat back exhaust if it doesn't have the low deep rumble

[lewdog]

You either hate me or missed it, but what's your daily commute like?

[Miles]

ROFL

It was a mere joke. Bumper stickers are tacky on any ride. I'd never do that, especially on a car supposed to be cool. But the wife and I laugh when we do see it. Especially the crooked ones on nice cars. LMAO

Reminds me of the bumper sticker on a Prius when I lived in Denver. "I get 50 Miles Per Gallon, What are YOU Doing for to Save the Environment?" And yes that was all crammed on a single sticker and not surprisingly that car was parked at the REI.

[lewdog]

Reminds me of the bumper sticker on a Prius when I lived in Denver. "I get 50 Miles Per Gallon, What are YOU Doing for to Save the Environment?" And yes that was all crammed on a single sticker and not surprisingly that car was parked at the REI.

Did you ask them where their battery goes when it dies?