Browns are signing WR Dwayne Bowe

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash">#Browns</a> are signing WR Dwayne Bowe, source said.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/578612528470601728">March 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Pablo]

Damn. Tough break Dwayne. From one toilet bowl to another.

[TribalElder]

RIP bowe

[ModSocks]

Guess we'll never have THAT question answered.

[Jim Lahey]

poor guy..he's grown addicted to the feeling of suck.

[The Franchise]

McCown will actually target him......because he's THE ONLY OPTION.

[Reerun_KC]

that ended that debate...

[CaliforniaChief]

Factory of Sadness

[DaneMcCloud]

LMAO

[Mav]

McCown will actually target him......because he's THE ONLY OPTION.
I mean. WHY? I can't even fathom why.

[The Franchise]

My best guess would be 900 yards with 6-7 TDs.

[Sure-Oz]

@RapSheet: Dwayne Bowe visited the #Browns on Saturday & Sunday. He was 1 of their top offseason priorities. They kept working on it & agreed to terms

[Discuss Thrower]

Goodnight, sweet prince.

[RealSNR]

Poor guy. Years of playing with shitty QBs in KC has permanently fucked him up, like a girl seemingly attracted to boyfriends who are controlling and abusive.

[Mav]

My best guess would be 900 yards with 6-7 TDs.
And a 2-14 record

[Sure-Oz]

The fact Bowe was a top priority of the Browns is enough said about that dogshit organization. Goodluck Dbowe...lol

[alpha_omega]

It will be interesting to hear what the terms are.

[Discuss Thrower]

Poor guy. Years of playing with shitty QBs in KC has permanently fucked him up, like a girl seemingly attracted to boyfriends who are controlling and abusive.

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[Mr. Laz]

McCown will actually target him......because he's THE ONLY OPTION.

yep, just like Huard,Cassel etc.

His numbers should go up from the 'lock-on' factor.

[gblowfish]

He probably heard somebody call them "The Brownies," and since he always has the munchies....TA DAA!

Good luck facing Cincy and Pittsburgh twice a year. Career suicide. And if it's possible to land in a place with crappier weather, only Buffalo and Green Bay is worse.

Cleveland is a FACTORY OF SADNESS.

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[Scorp]

It just stuns me that top quality organizations didn't sign Bowe. I mean I was told here he was awesome. I must be missing something lol.

[Hammock Parties]

fucking shit

[Hootie]

best of luck to Mr. Bowe

[Marcellus]

****ing shit

LMAO

[ModSocks]

It just stuns me that top quality organizations didn't sign Bowe. I mean I was told here he was awesome. I must be missing something lol.

Might wanna see the contract first....I'm betting the Browns overpaid.

[Reerun_KC]

LOL from the Factory of Embarrassment to the Factory of Sadness... Looks like Blowe didnt have the market value CP thought he did...

[Sandy Vagina]

It just stuns me that top quality organizations didn't sign Bowe. I mean I was told here he was awesome. I must be missing something lol.

LOL... this. Good luck, Bowe. You had your moments. Maybe you will get some fire back inside you.. or not.. whatever. http://yoursmiles.org/csmile/goodbye/c0209.gif

[RealSNR]

Brian Hartline is probably the best WR to ever line up on the opposite side of the field from Bowe. And Josh McCown is probably the 2nd best QB Bowe has ever played with.

How fucking sad is that?

[Chromatic]

I kind of hope he reverts back to this Dwayne Bowe

RIP

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[Reerun_KC]

It just stuns me that top quality organizations didn't sign Bowe. I mean I was told here he was awesome. I must be missing something lol.


The Blowe Pops are looking for a gun barrel to eat...

[staylor26]

I'm sure Farmer and Dwayne's history led to this. Can't blame him for that.

[Chromatic]

Brian Hartline is probably the best WR to ever line up on the opposite side of the field from Bowe. And Josh McCown is probably the 2nd best QB Bowe has ever played with.

How fucking sad is that?

Who's the first? Orton?

[Imon Yourside]

I will be sad to go up against Mr. Bowe, Good luck in that city my friend. Enjoy the dawg pound.

[BigRock]

Might wanna see the contract first....I'm betting the Browns overpaid.

They had to overpay if they wanted to get him away from all the playoff teams secretly bidding on him in total silence on the condition it never be reported.

[ModSocks]

I'm sure Farmer and Dwayne's history led to this. Can't blame him for that.

Ah yes, forgot about the Ray Farmer connection. It all makes sense now.

[Imon Yourside]

Who's the first? Orton?

Cassel. LOLZ

[The Franchise]

They had to overpay if they wanted to get him away from all the playoff teams secretly bidding on him in total silence on the condition it never be reported.

Yeah....because it wasn't reported that the Ravens were interested in him. Oh wait...shit....that's right....IT WAS.

[RealSNR]

Who's the first? Orton?

Alex Smith is the best QB Bowe has played with.

Ironically, he's also a WR's worst fucking enemy. Any WR.

[Reerun_KC]

They had to overpay if they wanted to get him away from all the playoff teams secretly bidding on him in total silence on the condition it never be reported.


LMAO Go easy on the Blowe Pops, its a tough day for them...

[Sandy Vagina]

Yeah....because it wasn't reported that the Ravens were interested in him. Oh wait...shit....that's right....IT WAS.

Easily could have been Bowe's agent desperate to drum up a market for him.

[Sure-Oz]

@4for4_Josh: #Browns top 2 off-season priorities were Josh McCown & Dwayne Bowe.

[The Franchise]

Easily could have been Bowe's agent desperate to drum up a market for him.

And it easily could have been the Browns knowing that and not letting him leave without a contract.

[Sure-Oz]

@DrawPlayDave: Johnny Manziel needs weapons!
Bring me that guy from the Chiefs who caught no touchdowns
no, the other one, the slightly better one

[Reerun_KC]

And it easily could have been the Browns knowing that and not letting him leave without a contract.


Browns must be smart then...

[DJ's left nut]

I kind of hope he reverts back to this Dwayne Bowe

RIP


2 things stand out from that video:

1) Bowe's stats absolutely dropped because of the lack of 'lock on' but man, he was a lot quicker back then as well. He flat out left guys tripping over themselves with some of the cuts he made there. That Bowe isn't coming back. Present Bowe is thicker, stronger and has better hands but doesn't have near that agility.

2) Jesus tapdancing Christ I almost forget how truly awful Cassel was at times. Several of those throws had nobody within 3-5 yards of Bowe and he's still ramping up the degree of difficulty by 100% because his ball placement is flat out shit.

Thank God that nightmare is over.

[Reerun_KC]

@DrawPlayDave: Johnny Manziel needs weapons!
Bring me that guy from the Chiefs who caught no touchdowns
no, the other one, the slightly better one


ROFL

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash">#Browns</a> were concerned that he was going to sign with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash">#Jaguars</a>. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk">@ProFootballTalk</a>: Browns to sign Dwayne Bowe <a href="http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu">http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu</a></p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/578617345448480769">March 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Imon Yourside]

Alex Smith is the best QB Bowe has played with.

Ironically, he's also a WR's worst ****ing enemy. Any WR.

But think of the Running backs dreams, the dumpoff is now taken to a whole new level.

[Sandy Vagina]

And it easily could have been the Browns knowing that and not letting him leave without a contract.

Hey, go with that then. Doesn't much matter. Bowe is not a total shitbird. Can play quite well when he feels like giving the effort and focus.

[The Franchise]

I would have preferred that he signed with the Jags instead. Better talent overall....especially with Lee, Robinson and Thomas.

[Imon Yourside]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash">#Browns</a> were concerned that he was going to sign with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash">#Jaguars</a>. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk">@ProFootballTalk</a>: Browns to sign Dwayne Bowe <a href="http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu">http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu</a></p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/578617345448480769">March 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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If I were Bowe I would rather play in Jacksonville than Cleveland. Both teams blow but Jacksonville has nice weather at least.

[Sure-Oz]

@MikeGarafolo: As @RapSheet said, Dwayne Bowe has agreed to terms with the Browns. The Jags were lurking. Cleveland wanted him bad though.


Hilarious. The Jags have solid young WRs

[Reerun_KC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash">#Browns</a> were concerned that he was going to sign with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash">#Jaguars</a>. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk">@ProFootballTalk</a>: Browns to sign Dwayne Bowe <a href="http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu">http://t.co/FYQRSeGlnu</a></p>— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/578617345448480769">March 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Bullshit, The Pats, Broncos, Ravens, Seahawks, Packers and many other teams were lined up waiting to sign him.... NOT the fucking Jaguars... Thats fucking laughable...

[Reerun_KC]

But think of the Running backs dreams, the dumpoff is now taken to a whole new level.


Andy Reid FTW....

[Pablo]

Poor guy. Years of playing with shitty QBs in KC has permanently fucked him up, like a girl seemingly attracted to boyfriends who are controlling and abusive.LMAO

[siberian khatru]

Guess we'll never have THAT question answered.

ROFL

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Browns are signing former Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe, as <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet">@RapSheet</a> reported. Cleveland is giving Bowe a two-year deal.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/578618576061493248">March 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Laz]

I can't believe that Brady,Manning,Luck or Rodger didn't jump up on the table and offer to take a pay cut to get Bowe. I mean with them he's a top 10 receiver.

Or was it a top 8 receiver? I forget.

[eDave]

My best guess would be 900 yards with 6-7 TDs.

It's an upgrade for him if he gets just one.

[siberian khatru]

@4for4_Josh: #Browns top 2 off-season priorities were Josh McCown & Dwayne Bowe.

Speaks volumes.

[Just Passin' By]

So Mr. Bowe was choosing between the Browns and the Jaguars?

LMAO

[Meatloaf]

Hey, go with that then. Doesn't much matter. Bowe is not a total shitbird. Can play quite well when he feels like giving the effort and focus.

Agree with this 1000%.

[ModSocks]

Bullshit, The Pats, Broncos, Ravens, Seahawks, Packers and many other teams were lined up waiting to sign him.... NOT the ****ing Jaguars... Thats ****ing laughable...

Yes, because those teams have clearly been chasing F/A WR's....

Haters gonna hate...

[Chromatic]

@4for4_Josh: #Browns top 2 off-season priorities were Josh McCown & Dwayne Bowe.

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[Reerun_KC]

Yes, because those teams have clearly been chasing F/A WR's....



Haters gonna hate...


Not sure why those teams hate Dwayne... Maybe you can enlighten us?

[Eleazar]

He will probably flourish in a place where crappy QBs lean on him, because they can just chuck the ball up there.

[ModSocks]

Not sure why those teams hate Dwayne... Maybe you can enlighten us?

Pretty sure you're the hater.....

Those teams you mentioned not pursing Bowe doesn't mean much....only the Pats have even looked at F/A wr's this offseason.

[Just Passin' By]

Yes, because those teams have clearly been chasing F/A WR's....

Haters gonna hate...

The Patriots were in on Harvin and S. Johnson

[The Franchise]

The Patriots were in on Harvin and S. Johnson

Yep....because both of those guys are the same type of WR that Bowe is.

[ModSocks]

The Patriots were in on Harvin and S. Johnson

Barely. Clearly not interested enough, as both those guys got minimal contracts.

[Reerun_KC]

Pretty sure you're the hater.....



Those teams you mentioned not pursing Bowe doesn't mean much....only the Pats have even looked at F/A wr's this offseason.


Theres nothing there to hate..... Have fun being a Browns fan....

[Just Passin' By]

Yep....because both of those guys are the same type of WR that Bowe is.

That's a moronic response

[Reerun_KC]

Yep....because both of those guys are the same type of WR that Bowe is.


So they actually catch the ball? ROFL

[BigMeatballDave]

The Blowe Pops are looking for a gun barrel to eat...

Holy shit, dude. Find a new shtick. This is horrible.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Damn. Tough break Dwayne. From one toilet bowl to another.

This.

Still, get paid.

[Just Passin' By]

Barely. Clearly not interested enough, as both those guys got minimal contracts.

Johnson got 3 years, $10.5 m
Harvin got 3 years, $24m which is really 1 year, $6m

Neither deal is for minimum wages, especially Harvin's. Bowe either wasn't in demand or was asking more than the general market felt he was worth in free agency.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Might wanna see the contract first....I'm betting the Browns overpaid.

I heard 2 years 13 million. Probably not reliable though. I feel bad for the guy. I mean, if it's all money then I won't. Get paid and fade away. I'll have to see the numbers. I wonder what we offered him to stay. For instance, what was his cap hit for us and when does the dead money apply? Because I'm sure he was offered that.

[Meatloaf]

Johnson got 3 years, $10.5 m
Harvin got 3 years, $24m which is really 1 year, $6m

Neither deal is for minimum wages, especially Harvin's. Bowe either wasn't in demand or was asking more than the general market felt he was worth in free agency.

Guesses at what Bowe got? Similar to Harvin?

[ModSocks]

Johnson got 3 years, $10.5 m
Harvin got 3 years, $24m which is really 1 year, $6m

Neither deal is for minimum wages, especially Harvin's.

Neither deal is particularly lucrative either. Both are bargain basement deals for vet players.

The point being, this whole "har har playoff teams didn't want him" crap is retarded.

None of those playoff teams were actively pursuing F/A Wr's with any sort of conviction.

[cosmo20002]

We play Cleveland at home this season.
Watching him drop balls for the visiting team will bring very mixed emotions.

[Eleazar]

Has anyone discussed what we might read from the tea leaves when the teams he chose between were the Jaguars and the Browns...?

[BigRock]

Yeah....because it wasn't reported that the Ravens were interested in him. Oh wait...shit....that's right....IT WAS.

You mean the vague blurb about how the Ravens might look at "guys like" Bowe and Mike Wallace after they got cut? That's what you're clinging to?

[Just Passin' By]

Neither deal is particularly lucrative either. Both are bargain basement deals for vet players.

The point being, this whole "har har playoff teams didn't want him" crap is retarded.

None of those playoff teams were actively pursuing F/A Wr's with any sort of conviction.

$6m for Harvin's recent production isn't a bargain basement deal, by any stretch of the imagination.

Look, I've got nothing against Bowe. He's just nowhere near the player he was, and so many of you seem to think he still is, and his market seems to have reflected that.

[BigMeatballDave]

I can't believe that Brady,Manning,Luck or Rodger didn't jump up on the table and offer to take a pay cut to get Bowe. I mean with them he's a top 10 receiver.

Or was it a top 8 receiver? I forget.

LMAO I'm laughing at your obvious dumbassery.

[ModSocks]

$6m for Harvin's recent production isn't a bargain basement deal, by any stretch of the imagination.

Look, I've got nothing against Bowe. He's just nowhere near the player he was, and so many of you seem to think he still is, and his market seems to have reflected that.

I don't think he's the player he WAS.

I also don't think he's as bad as his last season dictates, nor does he deserve the hate from some of these idiots who've been waiting for this day for years.

[The Franchise]

I don't think he's the player he WAS.

I also don't think he's as bad as his last season dictates, nor does he deserve the hate from some of these idiots who've been waiting for this day for years.

This.

I've already stated multiple times that at best he's a good #2 WR.

[Sully]

Didn't they just get rid of Greg Little last year?

[RealSNR]

$6m for Harvin's recent production isn't a bargain basement deal, by any stretch of the imagination.

Look, I've got nothing against Bowe. He's just nowhere near the player he was, and so many of you seem to think he still is, and his market seems to have reflected that.

Bullshit.

[BigMeatballDave]

We play Cleveland at home this season.
Watching him drop balls for the visiting team will bring very mixed emotions.

How many balls do you think he dropped last season?

[Mr. Laz]

I heard 2 years 13 million. Probably not reliable though. I feel bad for the guy. I mean, if it's all money then I won't. Get paid and fade away. I'll have to see the numbers. I wonder what we offered him to stay. For instance, what was his cap hit for us and when does the dead money apply? Because I'm sure he was offered that.

Why do you feel bad for him?

He just got overpaid by KC and had a chance to bolt to anywhere needing a #1 receiver.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Anyone know what our cap hit is on him?

[Mr. Laz]

LMAO I'm laughing at your obvious dumbassery.

Thanks, i appreciate it.

[Mr. Laz]

Anyone know what our cap hit is on him?

I believe we elected to take the entire hit this year.


9 million-ish?

[Willie Lanier]

I've always had a soft spot for bowe, so I wish him well

[Meatloaf]

Bullshit.

Can we not agree that, for whatever reason, Bowe and the Chiefs offensive style were not well matched? I think his time/productivity for the Chiefs was pretty much over. I suspect he'll do better somewhere else.......even in Cleveland.

Good luck to the man.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Anyone know what our cap hit is on him?

8.8 million this year. I'm wondering if he fucked himself by not renegotiating. He's not going to a better team. That's for sure.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Why do you feel bad for him?

He just got overpaid by KC and had a chance to bolt to anywhere needing a #1 receiver.

Because he never complained about the dog turds throwing to him. He busted his ass for us, and I don't pin nearly half the blame on him for his stats last year.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Can we not agree that, for whatever reason, Bowe and the Chiefs offensive style were not well matched? I think his time/productivity for the Chiefs was pretty much over. I suspect he'll do better somewhere else.......even in Cleveland.

Good luck to the man.

We can agree if you break that down one step further and say Bowe doesn't match Alex Smith's style. Reid and Dorsey loved him.

[cosmo20002]

How many balls do you think he dropped last season?

I don't know. Frankly, I don't recall any memorable ones from last year.
I do know that the official NFL stats on 'drops' are BS. They basically don't count it a 'drop' unless the ball hits you square in the numbers and you don't catch it.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't know. Frankly, I don't recall any memorable ones from last year.
I do know that the official NFL stats on 'drops' are BS. They basically don't count it a 'drop' unless the ball hits you square in the numbers and you don't catch it.

Oh, well I'm sure he had at least 100, then...

[Kman34]

****ing shit

ROFL Funny shit...

[Eleazar]

8.8 million this year. I'm wondering if he ****ed himself by not renegotiating. He's not going to a better team. That's for sure.

He clucked himself by getting arrested, if you want to take things out to their logical conclusion.

[BigMeatballDave]

Because he never complained about the dog turds throwing to him. He busted his ass for us, and I don't pin nearly half the blame on him for his stats last year.

Yep. By all accounts he was a great teammate and was very good blocking in the run game and never complained.

He was a solid guy and a solid WR and all the usual turds here can do is shit on him because he dropped a pass.

And pointed to his Nameplate.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Poor bastard

[Mr. Laz]

Because he never complained about the dog turds throwing to him. He busted his ass for us, and I don't pin nearly half the blame on him for his stats last year.
busting his ass for us is debatable


Bowe was a FA and he wanted to go to cleveland, he chose cleveland.

Be happy for him.

[BigMeatballDave]

busting his ass for us is debatable


.Oh, so you admit you don't watch the games. There is more to being a WR than just catching passes.

[Dragonocho]

Good deal for Cleveland. Bowe will be hungry. Or at least he will have the munchies.

[BossChief]

Bowe fucked himself.

KC only saved 5m by cutting him when he had a 10,750,000 base salary.

Chiefs could have saved that 5m by offering him a paycut down to 6m and kept him...no reason they wouldn't have offered that.

He bet on himself ...and lost.

Or Dorsey just wanted him gone and didn't make any offer to keep him...but the timeline for his release indicates they did try to work something out to keep him.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Bowe fucked himself.

KC only saved 5m by cutting him when he had a 10,750,000 base salary.

Chiefs could have saved that 5m by offering him a paycut down to 6m and kept him...no reason they wouldn't have offered that.

He bet on himself ...and lost.

Or Dorsey just wanted him gone and didn't make any offer to keep him...but the timeline for his release indicates they did try to work something out to keep him.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Alluded to it earlier. I think he is pissed right now.

[Mr. Laz]

Oh, so you admit you don't watch the games. There is more to being a WR than just catching passes.
Watched every game there was to watch

There is more to being a WR than catching passes. There is practicing and become a polished route runner. There is learning the playbook so that you line up correctly and are in the right place at the right time. There is knowing your defensive checks and reads so that your QB trusts you to be on the same page. There is doing all the things off of the field to stay in shape and always be available for your team. Having a commit to excellence so that you continue to improve and become the best player you can be.

so much more than being big,athletic and catching passes .........

[Sassy Squatch]

Am I the only one thinking he'd be good in Pittsburgh? Say what you will about Haley, but Bowe was at his best under his tutelage.

[OldSchool]

ROFL

Have fun in Cleveland. I guess no one else with a competent WR core wanted to give Bowe a call so he decided to go to Cleveland.

[Coochie liquor]

The Blowe Pops are looking for a gun barrel to eat...

@RapSheet: men with extremely small penis' tend to go on internet message boards and take their frustrations out there. Because they won't be accountable for what they say, and nobody there can tell they have an extremely small penis.

I'm pretty sure PeerunKC is this guy!!

[BossChief]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Alluded to it earlier. I think he is pissed right now.

Hopefully, he got paid.

If he decided to wait till after the draft, he would be fighting for half of what he got from Cleveland.

Stacked WR draft 2 years in a row = very limited market for 30 year old receivers in production slumps that have baggage.

Sadly, I'll always remember his best catch being the one that sent the Dallas game to OT. A game we ended up losing.

Oh well.

With Maclin and us drafting another receiver, the memory of Bowe in KC is gonna fade quickly.

[DaneMcCloud]

Bowe fucked himself.



That seems to be a major theme in Bowe's professional life.

[OldSchool]

****ing shit

ROFL

[OldSchool]

I can't believe that Brady,Manning,Luck or Rodger didn't jump up on the table and offer to take a pay cut to get Bowe. I mean with them he's a top 10 receiver.

Or was it a top 8 receiver? I forget.

Exactly. ROFL

[Coochie liquor]

Sweet Daddy Williams to da Browns now??

[mcaj22]

Bowe ****ed himself.

KC only saved 5m by cutting him when he had a 10,750,000 base salary.

Chiefs could have saved that 5m by offering him a paycut down to 6m and kept him...no reason they wouldn't have offered that.

He bet on himself ...and lost.

Or Dorsey just wanted him gone and didn't make any offer to keep him...but the timeline for his release indicates they did try to work something out to keep him.

I'm not sure how he ****ed himself, he refused to take a paycut and thus the Chiefs now have 8.8 in dead money owed to Bowe.

So Chiefs pay him almost 9 million to not be on their team + whatever Bowe got from the Browns = is definitely more than the paycut but less than his actual full Chiefs contract for this year.

So he actually might have made money.

[BossChief]

I'm not sure how he ****ed himself, he refused to take a paycut and thus the Chiefs now have 8.8 in dead money owed to Bowe.

So Chiefs pay him almost 9 million to not be on their team + whatever Bowe got from the Browns = is definitely more than the paycut but less than his actual full Chiefs contract for this year.

So he actually might have made money.

That's not how it works.

Dead money is what he already got paid. He voided his guarantees when he got popped for weed.

[DaKCMan AP]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:

[Reerun_KC]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:


I find the whole meltdown humourous...

[mcaj22]

That's not how it works.

Dead money is what he already got paid. He voided his guarantees when he got popped for weed.

isn't dead money what you pay him to get out of the contract/cut?

[keg in kc]

Dead money is the pro-rated bonus money already paid and/or guaranteed money you owe him even after he's cut.

[Pablo]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:Yeah, but Red and Gold.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

You'd think he'd be longing to play for a franchise with a half-decent QB for at least one season of his career. Even if he had to play for the league minimum. For a WR, spending your entire career with us and the Browns is almost like not playing in the NFL at all.

[The Franchise]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:

MIZ! or some shit.

[Discuss Thrower]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:

:hmmm:

[keg in kc]

Wasn't maclin set on either Philly or here? He said there was some other interest but everybody pretty much knew it was us or them.

[Pablo]

Wasn't maclin set on either Philly or here? He said there was some other interest but everybody pretty much knew it was us or them.Two absolute POWERHOUSES interested in his service.

[keg in kc]

Two absolute POWERHOUSES interested in his service.The point was about where he wanted to play, something which generally influences the interest level of other potential suitors, or lack thereof.

We actually see it happen all the time with high profile free agents. Their destination is set long in advance of actual free agency, there aren't bidding wars all that often, unless it's a situation like Sanders last year where an agent plays one team off another to raise the price and the guy still ends up where he wanted to be all along.

And the reasons for maclin to want to come here are obvious: home region, coach he likes, system he knows. That's not something that anywhere else in the league could offer, in addition to the contract.

[gblowfish]

Well, at least when Bowe shows up with the munchies, Johnny Football can give him a Snickers.

[jd1020]

Bowe, I am disappoint.

[kcxiv]

damn from 1 shitty team to another!

He better at least have gotten paid.

[GloryDayz]

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608001631128388939&pid=1.7

[Jim Lahey]

If Maclin fails to hit 1000 yards and Bowe does lets melt this mother fucker down!

[wazu]

We play Cleveland at home this season.
Watching him drop balls for the visiting team will bring very mixed emotions.

He'll probably score 3 TDs and point to the name on his jersey. But then still lose.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Manziel to Bowe for 14 TDs this year.

[Scorp]

Manziel to Bowe for 14 TDs this year.

Ummm pretty sure Manziel isn't playing this year. At least that is the report that I heard here.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Someone explain this 8.8 mill in dead money thing

[Iowanian]

Signing with the Factory of Sadness just proves that Bowe is only interested in playing for a checkionship.(tm)


Maybe Ray Farmer gave him Stockholm Syndrome....

[jd1020]

Signing with the Factory of Sadness just proves that Bowe is only interested in playing for a checkionship.(tm)

Bowe suffers from BPS.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Someone explain this 8.8 mill in dead money thing

When you sign a player they get a signing bonus on big Contracts. That money is split over the life of the deal so you don't have to pay the 30 million bonus on year 1. Basically his signing bonus over the rest of his original contract is what this is.

Had he not got popped for weed it'd be much higher and would've been impossible to cut him.

[Mr. Laz]

Someone explain this 8.8 mill in dead money thing

When a player signs a contract they often get a signing bonus. Up front money for just signing the paper. To help with salary cap restraints the NFL allows teams to prorate that bonus money over the length of the contract.

IE 5 year deal with a 50 million dollar signing bonus(just for ease of math)

that means that only 10 million dollars of the signing bonus counts against team cap each year.

but ....... if that player is cut/traded before that 5 years is up the rest of that bonus cap hit accelerates and hits all the year he leaves.

So if the 5yr/50 million player leaves after 3 years, the team will have a 20 million dollar cap hit called 'dead money'.

Dead money meaning a cap number being allocated for a player not still on the team.


Now there are other rules about bonuses and cap money, but those are the basics.

[Dave Lane]

I kind of hope he reverts back to this Dwayne Bowe

RIP

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It makes me sad that I miss Cassel and Bowe...

[ChiefsCountry]

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:

It's the Alex Smith 49er fans and the clowns like Laz and Reerun. What do you expect.

[Red Dawg]

He won't do crap for them. They are the only team willing to pay him what he felt was fair. He sucks.

[Baby Lee]

It makes me psychotic if I miss Cassel and Bowe...

FYP

[gblowfish]

Helpful info for D Bowe....

[stevieray]

****ing shit

"He's going to the Ravens"

[Mav]

It's the Alex Smith 49er fans and the clowns like Laz and Reerun. What do you expect.
Wrong as usual. It was people like clay worshipping him, declaring that he would be hotly pursued by multiple elite qb driven teams, and would prove that bowes fall from superstar was solely alex Smith. Of course that was a part of it, but a lot of it was solely on bowes lack of disciplined route running, and inability to use his size and strength to punish defenders.

But go ahead with your simple flawed logic.

[Just Passin' By]

"He's going to the Ravens"

LMAO

[notorious]

"Factory of Masochism"

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We play Cleveland at home this season.
Watching him drop balls for the visiting team will bring very mixed emotions.

Yeah, watching him "drop" a hundred on Sean "solid" Smith is giving me a boner already.

[Baby Lee]

Yeah, watching him "drop" a hundred on Sean "solid" Smith is giving me a boner already.

Thanks for the info AutumnWilliams

[notorious]

Bowe probably will get 100 yards against us considering that they will be passing the entire final 3 quarters in a blowout.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Thanks for the info AutumnWilliams

You're welcome, Clancy.

[BossChief]

Yeah, watching him "drop" a hundred on Sean "solid" Smith is giving me a boner already.

How much you wanna bet he won't get 100?

[FlaChief58]

RIP, prayers sent to his family

[Dragonocho]

How much you wanna bet he won't get 100?
I am in for whatever you will cover. I mean I agree. He will not get 100 yards.

[DaneMcCloud]

"He's going to the Ravens"

LMAO

[GloryDayz]

If Maclin fails to hit 1000 yards and Bowe does lets melt this mother fucker down!

Prolly not. If he does well there, good for him, he just wasn't here, for whatever reason. Who knows, if our guys still suck, then that'll mean Alex and the O-line need to have their balls cut off with a dull rusty knife...

[BigMeatballDave]

Yeah, watching him "drop" a hundred on Sean "solid" Smith is giving me a boner already.

I like Bowe, but this is ridiculous.

Sean is pretty good, may as well admit it.

[Chiefaholic]

I'm not sure how he ****ed himself, he refused to take a paycut and thus the Chiefs now have 8.8 in dead money owed to Bowe.

So Chiefs pay him almost 9 million to not be on their team + whatever Bowe got from the Browns = is definitely more than the paycut but less than his actual full Chiefs contract for this year.

So he actually might have made money.

You understand how the salary cap works, don't you? Bowe didn't get an additional $9 million from the Chiefs. The $9 million was the prorated money left from his original signing bonus (money he already had in the bank). Had the Chiefs waited till post June 1, the prorated money would have been divided between this and next years cap. Bowe will receive this years signing bonus and base salary from the Browns, thats it... Nothing less, nothing more.

[Chiefaholic]

Well, at least when Bowe shows up with the munchies, Johnny Football can give him a Snickers.

ROFL

[Cmd'r&Chief]

And Josh McCown is probably the 2nd best QB Bowe has ever played with.

How fucking sad is that?

1st best QB was Matt Cassel, obviously.

[bricks]

damn from 1 shitty team to another!

He better at least have gotten paid.

I think you're being too harsh.

Chiefs aren't shit. I know they didn't make the playoffs last year but this ain't a shitty football team. Two winning seasons in a row and fans like you are still saying they're shit? Come on now, be a little more optimistic.

[ThaVirus]

I think you're being too harsh.

Chiefs aren't shit. I know they didn't make the playoffs last year but this ain't a shitty football team. Two winning seasons in a row and fans like you are still saying they're shit? Come on now, be a little more optimistic.

One of the longest playoff win droughts in the league. One of the longest Super Bowl win droughts in the league..

We're competitive now but nobody's out there checking for us. We've got a long way to go.

[bricks]

One of the longest playoff win droughts in the league. One of the longest Super Bowl win droughts in the league..

We're competitive now but nobody's out there checking for us. We've got a long way to go.

I think you're wrong.

We don't have a long way to go. This roster is well built and has come a long way over the years. We are probably not championship caliber but if they fix that offensive line and address depth at a few other positions, the Chiefs will be fine.

[Meatloaf]

One of the longest playoff win droughts in the league. One of the longest Super Bowl win droughts in the league..

We're competitive now but nobody's out there checking for us. We've got a long way to go.

Don't agree at all, Virus. With a decent draft that will add talent to this team, I think we'll be very close to being SB contenders. Let's say we pick up the following in the draft: CB, WR, TE, OL. We're loaded on the defensive side of the ball, and our offense should be much improved with Maclin, Grubbs and another WR, OL and TE.

I think we're starting to look like the Chiefs of old.....back in the day when they went to the SB more than once in a lifetime.

The fly in the ointment is our QB; but man, he came alive in that playoff game. There's something in there.....we just need to see more of it! Hopefully, the help he'll receive on the offensive side of the ball will provide just what he needs to become more productive as needed. Hey, he's never gonna be Captain ChuckIt, but with some help, I suspect he'll become something more than Captain CheckDown. We can get there with Alex.

[-King-]

Meh. This kind of confirms what I've been saying about him. No one considers Him a #1 anymore. He's a decent #2 now. 700-800 yard guy who can get 900 on a real good year. That weed charge was one of the best things to happen to the Chiefs. Would have been OK with him coming back with a pay cut but not too bummed out that he's gone.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

How much you wanna bet he won't get 100?

20 American. Paypal is your friend, and soon to be mine.

[Scorp]

I think you're wrong.

We don't have a long way to go. This roster is well built and has come a long way over the years. We are probably not championship caliber but if they fix that offensive line and address depth at a few other positions, the Chiefs will be fine.

r u fucking kidding me? This is what is wrong with 80% of this franchise's fan base. Until we get a LEGITIMATE Quarterback that can put this team on his shoulders and march down the field we aint gonna win shit! :cuss:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

r u fucking kidding me? This is what is wrong with 80% of this franchise's fan base. Until we get a LEGITIMATE Quarterback that can put this team on his shoulders and march down the field we aint gonna win shit! :cuss:
Now where has it been proven in ALL of Chiefs history that you can't win a 'ship with a breathing body behind Center and a squad stacked Pro-Bowler-


Oh.

[ChiefsChoke010414]

Why did they sign him after all the off the field issues with Josh Gordon? Isn't Bowe like one suspension away from missing 8 games?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Why did they sign him after all the off the field issues with Josh Gordon? Isn't Bowe like one suspension away from missing 8 games?

Because they know excellence when they see it, that's why.

[ChiefsChoke010414]

Because they know excellence when they see it, that's why.

They would. Lebron plays in Cleveland, right? Maybe he and Bowe can workout together.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

They would. Lebron plays in Cleveland, right? Maybe he and Bowe can workout together.

That would be fucking sweet, and I'd buy the T-shirt.

[Bowser]

Johnny Manziel

Josh Gordon

Dwayne Bowe

Words fail me.

Am I the only one thinking he'd be good in Pittsburgh? Say what you will about Haley, but Bowe was at his best under his tutelage.I was half expecting him to end up there on a one year prove it deal. I think he would have excelled with Haley coaching him up and Roethlisberger throwing him the ball. Good for the rest of the league he chose anonymity over a contender.

[ILChief]

Because they know excellence when they see it, that's why.

Yes, if there is one thing that comes to mind when I hear the word excellence, it's the Cleveland Browns

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Johnny Manziel

Josh Gordon

Dwayne Bowe

Words fail me.

Ray Farmer is an......exceptional...man. :facepalm:

I was half expecting him to end up there on a one year prove it deal. I think he would have excelled with Haley coaching him up and Roethlisberger throwing him the ball. Good for the rest of the league he chose anonymity over a contender.

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[rabblerouser]

"D-Bowe will go to another team and rape faces!!!'-CP

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"D-Bowe will go to another team and rape faces!!!'-CP

"Alex Smith will be great for KC"!-no one.

Except that one guy with a peg-leg and twitchy eye.

[notorious]

That gif is fucking awesome.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That gif is fucking awesome.

Burt Reynolds cheese movies from the 70's are the fucking greatest.

[BigMeatballDave]

"Alex Smith will be great for KC"!-no one.

Except that one guy with a peg-leg and twitchy eye.

Creepy Rob Lowe?

[bricks]

r u ****ing kidding me? This is what is wrong with 80% of this franchise's fan base. Until we get a LEGITIMATE Quarterback that can put this team on his shoulders and march down the field we aint gonna win shit! :cuss:

Alex Smith will improve. Don't worry.

He has the right receiver in the right system. Once he develops chemistry with Maclin our offense will be a legit threat. Give him a better offensive line that won't allow the pocket to collapse most of the time on passing downs and Im confident he can make his throws.

I think that's one of the reasons he struggled to come from behind last year in games. Mcglynn and Fulton just completely sucked ass in pass proctection and Alex didn't have enough time to step up in the pocket and make his throws. He either had to take the sack, throw it away a lot of times. I just don't feel we've seen the best of him yet simply because he hasn't been in a good enough position to succeed. That's on Reid and Dorsey.

[BigMeatballDave]

Burt Reynolds cheese movies from the 70's are the fucking greatest.

Fuck yeah. Downloading Hooper right now.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Creepy Rob Lowe?

LMAO

Sumpin' like that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Fuck yeah. Downloading Hooper right now.

I need to re-watch 'Gator' one of these days.

[Marcellus]

isn't dead money what you pay him to get out of the contract/cut?

No its money you already paid that was spread out over the contract.

[Hammock Parties]

Alex Smith will improve. Don't worry.


Cassel too!

[TribalElder]

Did anyone post the Twitter of bowe looking forward to meeting the dawg pound in the endzone

[O.city]

Just saw this.

Sounds about right

[RealSNR]

Alex Smith will improve. Don't worry.

He has the right receiver in the right system. Once he develops chemistry with Maclin our offense will be a legit threat. Give him a better offensive line that won't allow the pocket to collapse most of the time on passing downs and Im confident he can make his throws.

I think that's one of the reasons he struggled to come from behind last year in games. Mcglynn and Fulton just completely sucked ass in pass proctection and Alex didn't have enough time to step up in the pocket and make his throws. He either had to take the sack, throw it away a lot of times. I just don't feel we've seen the best of him yet simply because he hasn't been in a good enough position to succeed. That's on Reid and Dorsey.
Alex Smith will never get a receiver over 1000 yards.

And it's not anyone else's fault but his.

[TribalElder]

Alex deep ball.youtube

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[DaneMcCloud]

Alex Smith will never get a receiver over 1000 yards.

And it's not anyone else's fault but his.

I don't necessarily agree with this because of the way passing yards are calculated.

I think it's entirely possible that a guy like Maclin or Wilson or any other speedster, something the Chiefs haven't had in decades, could take short passes and turn them into big gainers that add up to 1,000 yards or more by season's end.

But I do agree that if it happens, it likely won't be because Smith threw the ball down field and connected dozens and dozens of times for it to happen.

[Discuss Thrower]

Barring Maclin's missed season due to injury, he has averaged 69 catches a year. Alex Smith has averaged 11 yards per completed pass over his career and has sustained that average over his last four seasons of play.

Combine those two averages and Maclin is a roughly 750~ yard receiver..

[DaneMcCloud]

Barring Maclin's missed season due to injury, he has averaged 69 catches a year. Alex Smith has averaged 11 yards per completed pass over his career and has sustained that average over his last four seasons of play.

Combine those two averages and Maclin is a roughly 750~ yard receiver..

Philly also had DeSean Jackson, Brent Celek and Shady.

Do your research so you don't embarrass yourself.

As much.

[Gadzooks]

The Chiefs should put Maclin in the slot. Let him move around at the LOS to get some easy separation.

[-King-]

Alex Smith will never get a receiver over 1000 yards.

And it's not anyone else's fault but his.

Want to bet that Maclin gets 1000+ this season?
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[Discuss Thrower]

Philly also had DeSean Jackson, Brent Celek and Shady.

Do your research so you don't embarrass yourself.

As much.

"Do my own research."
...



Okay, fine. The number one receiving "threat" in terms of total yardage in Andy Reid's offense has only had a thousand yards of receiving four times: Terrell Owens in '04 with 1200 and 15.6 yards per reception in 2004, Kevin Curtis in '07 with 1100 and 14.4 y/r, and DeSean Jackson in '09 and '10 with 1156 and 1056 and yards per catch marks of 18.6 and 22.5 respectively.

Under Reid, Maclin was the number one receiver by yardage once where he recorded 857 yards with a 12.4 yards per catch average in 2012. His career average of yards per season is 954 coming in from a yards per catch average of 13.8. For comparison, he totaled 1318 total yards last season with 15.5 yards per catch.

Now, at this point you can disregard what I'm about to say with the retort that Smith has never had a receiver worth a shit and I totally expect that. With this in mind, in the seasons where Alex Smith has started 15+ games, his top receivers in terms of yards per catch that don't include gadget plays with the likes of Isaac Sopoaga and Joe Staley as eligible receivers read as follows:

Bryan Gilmore with 18.8 y/r over 8 catches, Antonio Bryant with 18.3 y/r over 40 catches and Vernon Davis y/r with 13.3 over 20 catches in 2006.

Josh Morgan with 14.7 y/r on 15 catches in 2011.

AJ Jenkins with 16.3 y/r on 6 catches and Donnie Avery with 14.9 y/r on 40 catches in 2013.

Albert Wilson 16.3 y/r over 16 catches,Travis Kelce with 12.9 y/r over 67 catches in 2014 and Dwayne Bowe with 12.6 y/r over 60 catches in 2014.

... along with every other primary receiver getting around 12 yards a catch or less in the four seasons (2006, 2011, 2013, 2014) where Alex Smith started 15 or more games.

You take Maclin's, Reid's and Alex Smith's histories into consideration it seems to me that it's more likely that Jeremy Maclin will not have 1,000 yards under Andy Reid given that the only time's that has happened in his career as a coach is when the second and third receiving options were guys who you could count on both to get 600+ yards along with the fact that Maclin himself has only eclipsed 900+ yards twice in his short career and the fact that receivers who play with Smith aren't generally in a position to get the necessary amount of yards per catch to gain more than 1,000 yards.

[Dave Lane]

Want to bet that Maclin gets 1000+ this season?
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I'm interested. How much can you afford to lose?

[ViperVisor]

Things happen for reasons. You are stretching with your deductive nonsense that they somehow don't care the guys most suited for yards don't get them when they need to get yards.

Reid had great defenses with Jim Johnson for years.
Alex Smith has had great defenses for years.
They've had great RBs to use.

This funnels the game-plan to a type they are fond of to begin with. Ball control and runs/short passes.

McNabb only had 2 seasons with a lot of passes. 2nd year was meh. 2008 was a year Philly got to 4000 yards.

It was an ultra-Reid type year. Desean was the shot guy mostly and got 900.
The craziness is...
Hank Baskett
Brian Westbrook
Kevin Curtis
Jason Avant
Avg. of 400 yards each

Correll Buckhalter
Brent Celek
L.J. Smith
Reggie Brown
Greg Lewis
Avg. of 300 yards each


But when things didn't go well. Worse defense, 2 strong WRs.
2010...
Desean 1000 yards
Maclin 900

2011...
Both were 1000 if they played 16 games

[-King-]

I'm interested. How much can you afford to lose?

Name the stakes. Im for just about anything.
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[Imon Yourside]

Name the stakes. Im for just about anything.
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I offer up a sixer of Nati light.

[notorious]

I offer up a sixer of Nati light.

What does the winner get?

[Imon Yourside]

What does the winner get?

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The Chiefs should put Maclin in the slot. Let him move around at the LOS to get some easy separation.

The slot requires "tight" windows. Windows that by Alex-standard are...unpossible.

Want to bet that Maclin gets 1000+ this season?
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You can count me in for 20 on this.

[Easy 6]

Best of luck, Dwayne... :shake:

[thabear04]

I was going to buy a Bowe jersey but now he with the Browns I'll pass. Good luck Bowe with your new team you can finally wear your old college jersey number.

[Wallcrawler]

This is what a season of 0 rec TD gets you.

[Chiefnj2]

I see a box office hit in 2019 when Dwayne and Johnny remake Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wonder how many years he'll be doing at Cleveland Folsom?

[beach tribe]

I kind of hope he reverts back to this Dwayne Bowe

RIP

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Commentator on the play:
After dropping two consecutive balls in the prior game, Bowe gets the TD.


The more things change.....

[beach tribe]

I'm interested. How much can you afford to lose?
:popcorn:

[Chiefshrink]

He will now be their 3rd down ADD of the hands disappointment:rolleyes:

[RealSNR]

Want to bet that Maclin gets 1000+ this season?
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Sure

[OldSchool]

Commentator on the play:
After dropping two consecutive balls in the prior game, Bowe gets the TD.


The more things change.....

Yeah, that was pretty funny.LMAO

[CoMoChief]

I wonder if Bowe is selling his Ronald McDonald edition Dodge Charger

[Reerun_KC]

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

[Baby Lee]

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

Andy deals pot?

[Marcellus]

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

Andy deals pot?
Pot has nothing to do with Andy's horizontal offense.

Nor does Pot have anything to do with Andy Reid's love affair with Alex Smith...

[Baby Lee]

Pot has nothing to do with Andy's horizontal offense.

Nor does Pot have anything to do with Andy Reid's love affair with Alex Smith...

Browns season tickets now available.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

JFC That is dumb as all hell

[Reerun_KC]

Browns season tickets now available.


Whats the saying here if you don't like a player? "haters gonna hate!"?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Browns season tickets now available.

Smell that burning river in the lot!

[Hootie]

it's hilarious that the dipfuck lackey to Clay (ROR) thinks Sean Smith is bad because his PFF rank was low the year we signed him

what a fucking moron

[FRCDFED]

Andy Reid killed Blowes career....

End of thread, cant dispute it.

How about showing all of the highlights after Bowe got paid and became a lazy POS that couldnt run or score after the catch?

[FRCDFED]

Bowe is gone because he didnt perform. /end thread

[FRCDFED]

It wasnt a cap move because KC was willing to pay a WR similar cap money as Bowe to do the things Bowe was being paid to do. If Bowe did those things Macklin wouldnt even had been a consideration.

[BigMeatballDave]

How about showing all of the highlights after Bowe got paid and became a lazy POS that couldnt run or score after the catch?

Lazy POS? How about you post some more non-sense.

Dude was a beast blocking in the run game.

Of course, you wouldn't know anything about that.

And he never complained.

[Reerun_KC]

How about showing all of the highlights after Bowe got paid and became a lazy POS that couldnt run or score after the catch?

Easy there...

I am not a Blowe Pop...


Blowe never elevated this team or put this team on his back to win championships.

He is a JAG.

[BigMeatballDave]

He was let go because they realized he just was not a good fit for this offense. He'd lost some speed.

And I'll bet he'll never say anything negative about the Chiefs.

[BigMeatballDave]

Easy there...

I am not a Blowe Pop...


Blowe never elevated this team or put this team on his back to win championships.

He is a JAG.WRs don't do this, QBs do. Your schtick really fucking sucks.

[Reerun_KC]

https://nuts.com/images/auto/510x340/assets/8f20deed077e6b8a.jpg

[FRCDFED]

See post 232. When you command that kind of money in FA to stay with the tram that drafted you then you are expected to perform. He didnt. Stop making excuses because he "could block downfield." Thats horseshit and you know it.

[GloryDayz]

Sometimes people need a fresh start. I hope things workout well for Bowe.

[Discuss Thrower]

Things happen for reasons. You are stretching with your deductive nonsense that they somehow don't care the guys most suited for yards don't get them when they need to get yards.

So, you disagree with what I posted because "reasons". Ooookay.


Reid had great defenses with Jim Johnson for years.
Alex Smith has had great defenses for years.
They've had great RBs to use.

This funnels the game-plan to a type they are fond of to begin with. Ball control and runs/short passes.


Notice how it didn't work for Philly due to their playoff record, where in the Eagles' best season since their SB run they got bounced in the NFC title game by a Cards team that had downfield passing capability with Warner / Fitzgerald / Breaston et all and how it really hasn't worked for KC in Reid's two seasons here.

Also, note Reid's performance since Johnson died.

It's mediocre.


McNabb only had 2 seasons with a lot of passes. 2nd year was meh. 2008 was a year Philly got to 4000 yards.

It was an ultra-Reid type year. Desean was the shot guy mostly and got 900.
The craziness is...
Hank Baskett
Brian Westbrook
Kevin Curtis
Jason Avant
Avg. of 400 yards each

Correll Buckhalter
Brent Celek
L.J. Smith
Reggie Brown
Greg Lewis
Avg. of 300 yards each


See above.


But when things didn't go well. Worse defense, 2 strong WRs.
2010...
Desean 1000 yards
Maclin 900

2011...
Both were 1000 if they played 16 games

Here's the fun part: you are admitting Maclin isn't going to get 1,000 yards unless the defense sucks and the Chiefs are forced to pass due to playing from behind or because he doesn't have DeSean Jackson playing alongside him.


... unfortunately for you, this pretty much jives with the data I've posted about in brief earlier in this thread.

Now, do the Chiefs have someone with Jackson's skillset at WR? Not at the moment. Wilson might be that guy one day, but it's incredibly wishful thinking that Albert Wilson as a second year UDFA out of a school that wasn't even Division I until last season is going to come close to putting up the stats Jackson did in his second year. Again, Wilson could very well be that guy someday but it's incredibly unlikely he'll surpass the bar set by other great UDFAs such as Wayne Chrebet, Rod Smith and Wes Welker.

Jason Avant isn't going to fool anyone into thinking he has DeSean Jackson-esque capabilities and Da'Rick Rogers (another UDFA) is a complete unknown outside of one game where he flashed great numbers against a good regular season team in Cincinnati but also is a poster boy for "character issues."

So unless the Chiefs draft a receiver with DeSean Jackson upside or hit the figurative lottery signing an extremely gifted UDFA pass catcher, it's defensible and logical to assume that Jeremy Maclin will -in fact- not get 1,000 yards based on Reid's track record with receivers (four 1,000+ yard guys in 16 seasons), Alex Smith's track record in connecting with receivers enough times or for enough yards at a time to get enough chances at 1,000 yards and because of Maclin's personal history along with the notion that Maclin can only get close to 1,000 yards *if* he's being thrown to nearly a hundred times *or* because he has a receiver of DeSean Jackson's caliber on the field with him.

[RealSNR]

See post 232. When you command that kind of money in FA to stay with the tram that drafted you then you are expected to perform. He didnt. Stop making excuses because he "could block downfield." Thats horseshit and you know it.

You called him lazy.

You can call him old and not what he once was, but "lazy?" Because he "got paid?"

That's you being a retarded douchebag. It's not Bowe being lazy.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

it's hilarious that the dipfuck lackey to Clay (ROR) thinks Sean Smith is bad because his PFF rank was low the year we signed him

what a fucking moron

I think your mom's PDB( professional dick blower )grade is outstanding.

Please let Smith be the match up.

[Baby Lee]

You called him lazy.

You can call him old and not what he once was, but "lazy?" Because he "got paid?"

That's you being a retarded douchebag. It's not Bowe being lazy.

Are you pretending that he wasn't put on lardo patrol by Haley previously.

I don't think Bowe is the anti-Christ, but he doesn't have the motor for self-improvement that Fitz has or Rice had.

He's a lumbering widebody who thinks he can muscle his way to a reception, but doesn't run the precise routes or catch reliably enough to find out when the QB doesn't want to make costly mistakes.

[Mav]

You called him lazy.

You can call him old and not what he once was, but "lazy?" Because he "got paid?"

That's you being a retarded douchebag. It's not Bowe being lazy.
Here. Bowe is a lazy route runner. Great blocker, great teammate, but in an offense that demands precision, he wasn't a fit.

That better?

[MahiMike]

The new matchup in Cleveland - Johnny Football to Dooby Dwayne.

[Mav]

The new matchup in Cleveland - Johnny Football to Dooby Dwayne.
You mean Johnny 8ball. But, you will never see it.

[Chiefaholic]

Has anybody seen any contract details on Bowe?

[eDave]

The dude is going to end up with a ring somewhere.

[Marcellus]

The dude is going to end up with a ring somewhere.

Yes there is a ton of history to support this statement.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The dude is going to end up with a ring somewhere.

In my time, only one ex-Chief ever got a ring, and they gave that son of a bitch a place in the Hall of Honor at Arrowhead.

Shameful.