Eric Fisher is leaner and stronger

[Mr. Laz]

Chiefs' Eric Fisher took up boxing and shed 20-30 pounds of body fat
By Joel Thorman  @JoelThorman on Apr 28, 2015, 4:38p 9

The issue with Eric Fisher going into the 2014 season was his strength. He had offseason shoulder surgery after the 2013 season which prevented him from lifting weights to put on strength. It was something everyone saw coming and it was an issue at times last season.

It's great news then to hear that Fisher says he shed 20-30 pounds of body fat but was able to keep his weight up heading into his third NFL season.

"I weighed in this morning at 314," Fisher said, via quotes from the Chiefs. "Honestly, I cut like 20, 30 pounds of body fat. I'm feeling really good. I think I'm in the best shape I've ever been in in my life, especially at that weight.
Last year, not being able to work out and do the things I wanted to do for six months. It probably wasn't the best weight I put on last year. I did get up there into the teens, but this year I'm feeling really good. My body is feeling good, mind is feeling good, and I am ready to go."

I usually make a joke about someone saying they're "in the best shape of my life" but that's actually important for Fisher. "Feeling good and ready to go" was a theme throughout his press conference. One of the ways he stayed in shape is through boxing, which he picked up while working out in Michigan this offseason.

"I've really never boxed before," Fisher said, "but I know my punch is one of the things I really needed to develop this offseason. And I knew going into the offseason that it was something I wanted to do and get in to. I couldn't believe the workout you can get from boxing - the hand work and the hand quickness. I really think that brought me a long way. I've been keeping it going here in KC. We have a couple heavy bags out there on the turf field. I brought my gloves back with me and sticking at it."

Fisher's probably not squaring up with Floyd Mayweather anytime soon but a 6'7, 314-pound boxer? Got damn! That's gotta be intimidating for whoever went up against him.

This is year three for Fisher, which is a big one. He'll have two years under his belt and a full offseason to work on his technique and get stronger. If he's going to turn the corner, this will be the year.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/4/28/8510945/chiefs-eric-fisher-boxing-lost-weight-body-fat

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

He's always been too lean. This is perfect for a blown up TE!

Fuck this loser

[TLO]

Fluffy piece is fluffy.

[Easy 6]

You damn well better be feeling good, Jack.

[hometeam]

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[New World Order]

Last year people were excited that he gained weight.

This year he's going to be smaller!

What a bad ass.

[OnTheWarpath15]

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LMAO

Perfect.

[KCrockaholic]

Weighed in at 314lbs. Yet cut 20-30lbs of body fat. Fisher never weighed 340lbs unless he sat on his ass all February not doing shit and eating ding dongs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What's the over/under on Fisher graduating to "serviceable" this year?

[BigMeatballDave]

Last year people were excited that he gained weight.

This year he's going to be smaller!

What a bad ass.

Probably should read.

He lost 20-30 lbs of fat and was able to 'keep his weight up'. Sounds like he gained some muscle.

[Deberg_1990]

Breakout year. 35 pancake blocks to lead the league

[milkman]

Weighed in at 314lbs. Yet cut 20-30lbs of body fat. Fisher never weighed 330lbs unless he sat on his ass all February not doing shit and eating ding dongs.

Said he cut body fat, but was able to keep his weight up.

That means he replaced fat with muscle.

[KCrockaholic]

Said he cut body fat, but was able to keep his weight up.

That means he replaced fat with muscle.

He was already built like a TE. I don't see where 20-30lbs of fat could possibly come from.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Good. Now show it on the field.

[In58men]

As I said earlier today I didn't like this pick one bit. He has this year and his year only to prove me wrong. The more times I'm wrong the better this team gets. Prove me wrong asshole

[milkman]

He was already built like a TE. I don't see where 20-30lbs of fat could possibly come from.

I am only clarifying what he said.

I have seen men that look pretty lean until they take their shirts off.

[milkman]

As I said earlier today I didn't like this pick one bit. He has this year and his year only to prove me wrong. The more times I'm wrong the better this team gets. Prove me wrong asshole

Hardly anyone liked this pick.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

He's the same size, but added cardio. Any gains are in his head.

[In58men]

Hardly anyone liked this pick.

I know, but usually when I disagree with what the Chiefs this board gets all fuckered up

[OnTheWarpath15]

Hardly anyone liked this pick.

Yet many people still defend it.

"Oh, he wasn't playing his natural position."

"Oh, he was hurt and couldn't train in the offseason."

"Oh, it was a shitty draft."

[Saccopoo]

The more times I'm wrong the better this team gets.

This team should be beating Ming the Merciless, Galactus and Biff Tannen combined then.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

I am only clarifying what he said.

I have seen men that look pretty lean until they take their shirts off.

Milkman has been disappointed with his Craigslist experience

[Mr. Laz]

in before a hundy

[srvy]

Said he cut body fat, but was able to keep his weight up.

That means he replaced fat with muscle.

It also a sign of steroids. Make or break year going for broke?

[SAUTO]

Weighed in at 314lbs. Yet cut 20-30lbs of body fat. Fisher never weighed 340lbs unless he sat on his ass all February not doing shit and eating ding dongs.

He's saying he lost fat and gained muscle sounds like to me...

Edit: most already got it

[milkman]

Yet many people still defend it.

"Oh, he wasn't playing his natural position."

"Oh, he was hurt and couldn't train in the offseason."

"Oh, it was a shitty draft."

All true.

At some point you have to get over the fact that the pick sucked ass and start to hope that he starts to pay some dividends.

He will most likely never live up to the status of his selction.

But there isn't a damn thing we can d about that now.

[BigMeatballDave]

Yet many people still defend it.

"Oh, he wasn't playing his natural position."

"Oh, he was hurt and couldn't train in the offseason."

"Oh, it was a shitty draft."

LMAO My God! Cry a little more...

[OnTheWarpath15]

All true.

At some point you have to get over the fact that the pick sucked ass and start to hope that he starts to pay some dividends.

He will most likely never live up to the status of his selction.

But there isn't a damn thing we can d about that now.

Oh, I'm over it. But I'm not going to go out of my way to defend a guy who is more Mandarich than Pace.

[KCrockaholic]

So you're tellin' me he gained 20lbs of muscle in 4 months?

[milkman]

Oh, I'm over it. But I'm not going to go out of my way to defend a guy who is more Mandarich than Pace.

I have to say that it doesn't look that way.

And you know that is simply just an honest observation from me to you.

[Saccopoo]

So you're tellin' me he gained 20lbs of muscle in 4 months?

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

[RobBlake]

So you're tellin' me he gained 20lbs of muscle in 4 months?

well don't expect an exact 20 pounds.. if you've known athletes in your life.. then you know a lot of them just like to talk.. i'm sure he did lose weight and gain muscle... i'd believe the 20 lbs if he continues his hard work into august

[In58men]

I do have faith in him and I do know he is trying to live up to his hype. I was just as pissed about this pick as I was the Poe pick. If I don't see any improvements by week 6 then I'll be more concerned. Until then, do work Fisher you bum.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I have to say that it doesn't look that way.

And you know that is simply just an honest observation from me to you.

Of course I hope he starts paying dividends. Because if he doesn't, we've blown the most valuable pick in our history, and will spend more draft capital to replace him.

There's a huge difference between hoping he works out, and expecting him to work out.

[KCrockaholic]

Maybe Fisher is still going through puberty and able to pack on muscle at the sight of protein.

[Mr. Laz]

"Oh, he wasn't playing his natural position."

"Oh, he was hurt and couldn't train in the offseason."

"Oh, it was a shitty draft."

all true

[SAUTO]

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

That's exactly what my ass looks like.

[Sorter]

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/yuck.gif

[OnTheWarpath15]

all true

Funny, those are considered excuses when discussing other players.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Thought this thread sounded familiar

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=284251

Fisher is a full of shit douche

[SAUTO]

Funny, those are considered excuses when discussing other players.

no one wants to hear that.

[Sorter]

Thought this thread sounded familiar

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=284251

Fisher is a full of shit douche

Lemon Pie has brought the hammer down.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Can he play in a 3-3-6?

[OnTheWarpath15]

no one wants to hear that.

I know. No one wants to admit the double standards around this place

[OnTheWarpath15]

Thought this thread sounded familiar

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=284251

Fisher is a full of shit douche

LMAO

Dude should weight 375 by now with all the weight he's gained the last two offseasons.

[MIAdragon]

Said he cut body fat, but was able to keep his weight up.

That means he replaced fat with muscle.

30lbs of muscle in a few months, he bullshits like he blocks.

[milkman]

LMAO

Dude should weight 375 by now with all the weight he's gained the last two offseasons.

Last year, he gained 30 lbs.

Did he say that those 30 lbs were muscle?

This year, he says he lost body fat, which would translate to weight loss.
He also said that he was able to maintain his weight because he added muscle while losing fat.

So, no, he wouldn't weigh 375 lbs now.

[Clyde Frog]

http://media.giphy.com/media/11Z4zciA8ISJhu/giphy.gif

[OnTheWarpath15]

Last year, he gained 30 lbs.

Did he say that those 30 lbs were muscle?

This year, he says he lost body fat, which would translate to weight loss.
He also said that he was able to maintain his weight because he added muscle while losing fat.

So, no, he wouldn't weigh 375 lbs now.

1.) Find your sarcasm meter.
2.) Install batteries.
3.) ?????
4.) Profit.

[milkman]

30lbs of muscle in a few months, he bullshits like he blocks.

Don't know, nor do I care.

I am only repeating what he said.

All I care about is his performance on the field.

If he continues to suck, it's time to move on,
If he starts to play well, then I don't give a rat's ass about how he got there.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Fisher's workout gains resonate about as truthfully as Tiger Woods saying that he's "close".

[OnTheWarpath15]

Fisher's workout gains resonate about as truthfully as Tiger Woods saying that he's "close".

LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

A thing of beauty, it is.

[BigMeatballDave]

The stupid mispronounciation of 'Chuefs' has been filtered. Lil Chiefy should be next. LOL

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Ch u efs

Chüefs

Ban me, bros

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

But wait until after tonight's NBA games

['Hamas' Jenkins]

LMAO

Eric, what happened with that sack you allowed in the first quarter?

"My glutes weren't activating. Made me slow out of my stance"

Eric, what about the strip sack on the next drive?

"As I hit my chop step a bone in my foot popped out. I put it back in between series."

[Rausch]

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

It looks like another, smaller, claymation person is trying to grow out of his back...

[BigMeatballDave]

It looks like another, smaller, claymation person is trying to grow out of his back...

LMAO It does.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Eric, what happened with that sack you allowed in the first quarter?

"My glutes weren't activating. Made me slow out of my stance"

Eric, what about the strip sack on the next drive?

"As I hit my chop step a bone in my foot popped out. I put it back in between series."

LMAO

[Rausch]

LMAO It does.

That thing looks like it should be a rebel leader on Mars...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lihal Cheeeefy, come out to plaaaaay-yaaaaaa.

[lewdog]

His nickname is Rice Cake. Always light and fluffy.

[BigMeatballDave]

That thing looks like it should be a rebel leader on Mars...

Kuato! LOL

[xztop123]

boxing is a great workout.

I ordered a pair of 24 oz gloves on amazon and will box until the competion of a song (3-5 minute rounds)

good cardio and much more knee-friendly than running

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

boxing is a great workout.

I ordered a pair of 24 oz gloves on amazon and will box until the competion of a song (3-5 minute rounds)

good cardio and much more knee-friendly than running

Your weak chin gets you knocked the fuck out

[xztop123]

Your weak chin gets you knocked the **** out

It's the 21st century. I dont fight

[O.city]

Well, he couldn't get any weaker.

Am I right

[Bewbies]

Eric Fisher gained weight is the new Matt Cassel graded perfectly.

[Chiefnj2]

Same thing last year. There was an article last offseason how he put on 30 lbs of muscle. Two years and 60 lbs of pure muscle - he should look like Laron Landry.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Eric Fisher gained weight is the new Matt Cassel graded perfectly.

LMAO

[KC native]

Your weak chin gets you knocked the fuck out

LMAO

[KC native]

Testing

Chuefs

Edit: WTF? Why can't I use Ch U efs

[xztop123]

Same thing last year. There was an article last offseason how he put on 30 lbs of muscle. Two years and 60 lbs of pure muscle - he should look like Laron Landry.

I remember reading that also

[Reerun_KC]

Biggest fruad and bust in franchise history. Pick 1.1 and we draft a low rent RT. Only the "home of the chuuuefs".

[SAUTO]

Technically there is a ton of filter evasion going on in here...

[Sorter]

It's the 21st century. I dont fight

You're a fucking pussy.

If you're going to spend the fucking money to purchase gloves and not spar, you're ridiculous. You're fucking shadow boxing like those 35-year-old women that think they practice MT.

[Brock]

Is he less clumsy? I sure hope so.

[SAUTO]

You're a fucking pussy.

If you're going to spend the fucking money to purchase gloves and not spar, you're ridiculous. You're fucking shadow boxing like those 35-year-old women that think they practice MT.

I still have two sets of glove in the game room just in case.

They get used about every ten gatherings, but once they are broke out everyone seems to get in on it.

Fun times.

[Brock]

I still have two sets of glove in the game room just in case.

They get used about every ten gatherings, but once they are broke out everyone seems to get in on it.

Fun times.

Everybody insured?

[SAUTO]

Everybody insured?

ROFL, Obama says everyone HAS to be... Right?

[SAUTO]

But seriously I would hate to have friends that I would actually have to think about those kinds of things.

We have all fought each other since we were little kids.

[splatbass]

The more times I'm wrong the better this team gets.

We would have won a Super Bowl already if that was true.

[BigMeatballDave]

Testing

Chiefs

Edit: WTF? Why can't I use Ch U efs

Annoying, overused, non-sense created by trolls.

[notorious]

Eric Fisher gained weight is the new Matt Cassel graded perfectly.

In a way, Cassel was less of a fail then Fisher.


At least Cassel didn't cost us #1.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

In a way, Cassel was less of a fail then Fisher.


At least Cassel didn't cost us #1.


He killed the homer inside Count Zarth...and is rumored to be the lead in Sharktopus 3

[chiefzilla1501]

Wow.

Anyone who acts like Fisher is guaranteed to have peaked is a moron. Fisher needs to gain strength. This is the first offseason he has a real opportunity to gain strength through offseason conditioning. We'll see how it turns out. Maybe he still ends up being bad. But amazing that anyone wants to act like this offseason was just like any offseason.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He needs to be a beast this year. No excuses.

[Chief Roundup]

This is the year that Fisher has to show marked improvement.
He should be able to do show that he is worthy of being our starting LT. He had a full off-season without issues. He will have Grubbs next to him to give him stability at that position.

[chiefzilla1501]

He needs to be a beast this year. No excuses.

Eh, I've given up on him ever living up to the pick. I just want him to be an effective left tackle. Just commenting that we all know he needs to gain arm strength and thus is the first year he'll have a full chance to do that. He may end up still sacking.

[Hoover]

I still remember back in the day when everyone here thought either Albert was a bust or should be moved to his more natural position at guard. Then when he proved to be worth a shit they can't believe we let him walk the year after he played under the franchise tag.

[DaneMcCloud]

I still remember back in the day when everyone here thought either Albert was a bust or should be moved to his more natural position at guard. Then when he proved to be worth a shit they can't believe we let him walk the year after he played under the franchise tag.
Welcome to Over-Reaction Planet

[DaneMcCloud]

I think it's hilarious that some of you guys can't believe that Fisher could convert 7-10% of his body weight from fat to muscle in 16 weeks time.

He can afford the best nutritionists and trainers money can buy and most of all, he has 24 hours a day at his disposal to train at this time of the year.

[Bewbies]

I still remember back in the day when everyone here thought either Albert was a bust or should be moved to his more natural position at guard. Then when he proved to be worth a shit they can't believe we let him walk the year after he played under the franchise tag.

If you don't walk on the field game 1 of your rookie year and make Willie Roaf look like a polio survivor playing LT you're not good enough for CP.

I thought Albert was pretty damn good from day 1, and he consistently got better.

[milkman]

If you don't walk on the field game 1 of your rookie year and make Willie Roaf look like a polio survivor playing LT you're not good enough for CP.

I thought Albert was pretty damn good from day 1, and he consistently got better.

He was better his rookie season than he was his second season.

He was consistently better from that point.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

I think it's hilarious that some of you guys can't believe that Fisher could convert 7-10% of his body weight from fat to muscle in 16 weeks time.

He can afford the best nutritionists and trainers money can buy and most of all, he has 24 hours a day at his disposal to train at this time of the year.

Shut up, bitch

[Bewbies]

He was better his rookie season than he was his second season.

He was consistently better from that point.

True. Didn't Haley wreck him in year 2?

[Rain Man]

This is the year that Fisher has to show marked improvement.
He should be able to do show that he is worthy of being our starting LT. He had a full off-season without issues. He will have Grubbs next to him to give him stability at that position.

I'm kind of hoping for a John Alt situation. Alt had a very rough start to his career and then ended up being John Alt.

[RunKC]

Good to hear. Hope he keeps going the next 3 months and moves that up to 320.

[go bo]

I'm kind of hoping for a John Alt situation. Alt had a very rough start to his career and then ended up being John Alt.

that's what i've been thinking too...

[Chiefshrink]

Well, IF we take an OT with one of our 1st 2 picks then it says volumes about how they really feel about Fisher IMO.

[temper11]

Oh, I'm over it. But I'm not going to go out of my way to defend a guy who is more Mandarich than Pace.

I don't really understand why anyone would come down on the guy to begin with.

He didn't force himself on the Chiefs. It wasn't his fault it was a shitty draft class and therefore he was selected #1 overall.

I guess everyone can be pissed at Dorsey for selecting him (which I know pretty much most people here are) but it's not like the Chiefs shocked the world when they picked him. Pretty much every mock draft I saw that year had either he or that other offensive tackle going 1/1. So it was widely believed he was one of the BPA's for the year.

So... the Chiefs just had shitty luck in having their 1/1 selection during a shitty draft class. That sucks, but it's not on Fisher. Pretty much the only thing anyone should get pissed off about is if their #1 pick is phoning in his effort. If he just decided to coast since he locked up the 1st round selection, then he should get all the shit that goes his way. Otherwise, if he's putting in the time and giving his best effort, that's all you can really ask for.

If he continues to not perform well enough then you have to replace him, but unless the effort slips, I don't know why there should be any animosity toward him at all.

[Fat Elvis]

I don't really understand why anyone would come down on the guy to begin with.

He didn't force himself on the Chiefs. It wasn't his fault it was a shitty draft class and therefore he was selected #1 overall.

I guess everyone can be pissed at Dorsey for selecting him (which I know pretty much most people here are) but it's not like the Chiefs shocked the world when they picked him. Pretty much every mock draft I saw that year had either he or that other offensive tackle going 1/1. So it was widely believed he was one of the BPA's for the year.

So... the Chiefs just had shitty luck in having their 1/1 selection during a shitty draft class. That sucks, but it's not on Fisher. Pretty much the only thing anyone should get pissed off about is if their #1 pick is phoning in his effort. If he just decided to coast since he locked up the 1st round selection, then he should get all the shit that goes his way. Otherwise, if he's putting in the time and giving his best effort, that's all you can really ask for.

If he continues to not perform well enough then you have to replace him, but unless the effort slips, I don't know why there should be any animosity toward him at all.


Whoa, slow down there. This place don't take too kindly to well thought out, reasoned posts.....

[New World Order]

Probably should read.

He lost 20-30 lbs of fat and was able to 'keep his weight up'. Sounds like he gained some muscle.


Lose 30 lbs of fat and gain muscle in 3 months?

Haha

[007]

Eric Fisher gained weight is the new Matt Cassel graded perfectly.

The real question is can he throw the ball and catch it too?

[chiefzilla1501]

True. Didn't Haley wreck him in year 2?

No. If anything, haley turned his career around. Even if I hate his playcalling, I will never understand people who can't see that Haley made a lot of players better.

Albert was forced to cut a ton of weight under haleys orders. He regressed because he was forced to use technique instead of throwing his body around.

[CoMoChief]

Fisher sucks...doesn't know how to leverage his body and plant. Gets knocked off his feet and is unbalanced a lot. Hated the pick at the time, probably should have drafted Sheldon Richardson instead. People say, well he was't worth the 1st overall pick...well, neither was Fisher but the Chiefs drafted him anyway.

[chiefzilla1501]

Fisher sucks...doesn't know how to leverage his body and plant. Gets knocked off his feet and is unbalanced a lot. Hated the pick at the time, probably should have drafted Sheldon Richardson instead. People say, well he was't worth the 1st overall pick...well, neither was Fisher but the Chiefs drafted him anyway.

Upper body strength could help that. This is the first NFL offseason where he'll have a true offseason conditioning program to give him the upper body strength everyone knows he needs.

I don't think his ceiling is that high. Will probably never be worth a 1.1. But I don't see why he couldn't at least become a quality starter.

[milkman]

Well, IF we take an OT with one of our 1st 2 picks then it says volumes about how they really feel about Fisher IMO.

No, it doesn't.

[Hoover]

When you are selected #1 over all you should be able to play RT AND LT at the same time!

[RollChiefsRoll]

How long until Fisher is the biggest draft bust in Chiefs history? Can anyone dethrone Todd Blackledge?

[BigMeatballDave]

Fisher sucks...doesn't know how to leverage his body and plant. Gets knocked off his feet and is unbalanced a lot. Hated the pick at the time, probably should have drafted Sheldon Richardson instead. People say, well he was't worth the 1st overall pick...well, neither was Fisher but the Chiefs drafted him anyway.

This bodes really well Eric Fisher! :thumb:

[WhawhaWhat]

How long until Fisher is the biggest draft bust in Chiefs history? Can anyone dethrone Todd Blackledge?

There are maybe 3 or 4 first round picks from 2013 that have done much of anything so far in the league vs the Blackledge year which had a few guys that worked out pretty well. Time will tell on 2013 obviously but can't say it's much of a contender for the Blackledge draft. Glad I was way too young to remember that one.

[BigMeatballDave]

How long until Fisher is the biggest draft bust in Chiefs history? Can anyone dethrone Todd Blackledge?

WHO THE FUCK CARES?

It happened. Move on with your life.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Easy, killer.

[Rausch]

He's always been too lean. This is perfect for a blown up TE!

**** this loser

He needs to add some weight. Every time he gets bull rushed he looks like he's doing the limbo...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm feeling Roman today.

I dub Eric Fisher, "Saculus the Fartknocker".

Thank you.

[BossChief]

Anyone remember last years fluff piece about Fisher putting on 10 pounds of "good weight"?

Now he says that wasn't exactly good weight...

Fluff piece is fluff...ya know when I'll believe he put on 20-30 pounds of muscle? When I see him not get raped by James Harrison's corpse.

[Rausch]

I'm feeling Roman today.

I dub Eric Fisher, "Saculus the Fartknocker".

Thank you.

Toro Rex...

[WhawhaWhat]

WHO THE **** CARES?

It happened. Move on with your life.

You decided to jump into the conversation because that's how much you don't care.

[BigMeatballDave]

You decided to jump into the conversation because that's how much you don't care.

Um, that was my 8th post in here.

[Rausch]

Um, that was my 8th post in here.

Slow your roll Meatwad. Big day tomorrow...

[Reerun_KC]

There are maybe 3 or 4 first round picks from 2013 that have done much of anything so far in the league vs the Blackledge year which had a few guys that worked out pretty well. Time will tell on 2013 obviously but can't say it's much of a contender for the Blackledge draft. Glad I was way too young to remember that one.

He has easily replaced Blackledge and Jackson as the biggest busts in franchise history...

You knew picking a RT and converting him to LT at 1.1 was going to blow up in our faces as soon as they posted that fat fucking losers celebrating like they just won the superbowl in the draft party.... Mullet Joe and Burger Bob summed up the failure nicely...

[RealSNR]

Whoa, slow down there. This place don't take too kindly to well thought out, reasoned posts.....

OH THAT'S FUNNY. IT'S LIKE YOU AGREED WITH HIM THEN TOOK A LIGHT-HEARTED SARCASTIC TONE LIKE YOU WERE SHAMING HIM FOR AGREEING WITH YOU. HAHAHA I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.

GO PLAY IN THE INTERSTATE, DIPSHIT

[BigMeatballDave]

Slow your roll Meatwad. Big day tomorrow...

http://i.imgur.com/AwzTkaE.gif

:)

[Baby Lee]

I'm feeling Roman today.

Lock up your sons!!

[WhawhaWhat]

Um, that was my 8th post in here.

:rolleyes: You decided to reply to his post because that's how much you don't care.

[RealSNR]

I don't really understand why anyone would come down on the guy to begin with.

He didn't force himself on the Chiefs. It wasn't his fault it was a shitty draft class and therefore he was selected #1 overall.

I guess everyone can be pissed at Dorsey for selecting him (which I know pretty much most people here are) but it's not like the Chiefs shocked the world when they picked him. Pretty much every mock draft I saw that year had either he or that other offensive tackle going 1/1. So it was widely believed he was one of the BPA's for the year.

So... the Chiefs just had shitty luck in having their 1/1 selection during a shitty draft class. That sucks, but it's not on Fisher. Pretty much the only thing anyone should get pissed off about is if their #1 pick is phoning in his effort. If he just decided to coast since he locked up the 1st round selection, then he should get all the shit that goes his way. Otherwise, if he's putting in the time and giving his best effort, that's all you can really ask for.

If he continues to not perform well enough then you have to replace him, but unless the effort slips, I don't know why there should be any animosity toward him at all.

Yeah, and we didn't ask to be Chiefs fans or have this kind of playoff futility bestowed on us.

Life is full of disappointments. Perhaps Eric Fisher can just suck up and take on the chin all these criticisms from strangers on the internet who post comments that he very likely doesn't read.

[BigMeatballDave]

picking a RT and converting him to LT

:spock: Huh?

[Reerun_KC]

Lock up your sons!!

what about the wives and daughters? I am assuming by this post that they are safe from BigGaySweetness?

[Dave Lane]

You're a ****ing pussy.

If you're going to spend the ****ing money to purchase gloves and not spar, you're ridiculous. You're ****ing shadow boxing like those 35-year-old women that think they practice MT.

I used to call it chess with consequences. Make a good move whack away make a bad move and boom on your kester.

[Baby Lee]

what about the wives and daughters? I am assuming by this post that they are safe from BigGaySweetness?

Pretty sure towards the end, the Romans borrowed boy love from the Greeks as well.

[Baby Lee]

I used to call it chess with consequences. Make a good move whack away make a bad move and boom on your kester.

Not my kester, anywhere but the kester!!

How will I securely connect electronic components??!!

[Chiefshrink]

I don't care about "leaner and stronger" what I care about is "better and meaner".

[Beef Supreme]

When you're taken at 1.1 as a lineman, you're kinda expected to play like Anthony Munoz. (who was 3rd overall).

At this point we're just hoping he can be average.

[chiefzilla1501]

Anyone remember last years fluff piece about Fisher putting on 10 pounds of "good weight"?

Now he says that wasn't exactly good weight...

Fluff piece is fluff...ya know when I'll believe he put on 20-30 pounds of muscle? When I see him not get raped by James Harrison's corpse.

Agreed. It's fluff. My takeaway from the story is he seems to be working hard at conditioning.

I couple that with yhe fact that he can add much needed upper body strength this offseason I ways he couldn't the previous 2.

So if he's working hard and following a good strength program that undoubtedly includes upper body strength, that's good news. That's my takeaway.

[Brock]

Agreed. It's fluff. My takeaway from the story is he seems to be working hard at conditioning.

I couple that with yhe fact that he can add much needed upper body strength this offseason I ways he couldn't the previous 2.

So if he's working hard and following a good strength program that undoubtedly includes upper body strength, that's good news. That's my takeaway.

He's doing what he's paid millions of dollars to do. Yay!

[The Franchise]

Well, IF we take an OT with one of our 1st 2 picks then it says volumes about how they really feel about Fisher IMO.

It says volumes about Jeff Allen and Donald Stephenson. Fisher is getting this year to prove himself. Now if we take an OT in the 1st round NEXT YEAR....that will say volumes about Fisher.

[Rausch]

He's doing what he's paid millions of dollars to do. Yay!

He hasn't yet...

[Brock]

He hasn't yet...

Right now he is.

[RunKC]

Most of the times he was beaten last year was because of a lack of muscle. I hope this helps him.
Would be awesome if he plays like a top 10 tackle this season.

[Bowser]

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

http://www.prepperforums.net/forum/attachments/general-talk/7663d1414882384-old-mean-ugly-total-recall-kuato.jpg

[Reerun_KC]

Most of the times he was beaten last year was because of a lack of muscle. I hope this helps him.
Would be awesome if he plays like a top 10 tackle this season.

Top 10 tackle? He better be the #1 tackle in the NFL by years end, tired of the excuses for this bust.

[milkman]

Top 10 tackle? He better be the #1 tackle in the NFL by years end, tired of the excuses for this bust.

He is most likely never going to be the best LT in the league, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be sorely disappointed.

[penguinz]

Top 10 tackle? He better be the #1 tackle in the NFL by years end, tired of the excuses for this bust.At least you are consistent.

[Reerun_KC]

He is most likely never going to be the best LT in the league, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be sorely disappointed.

I have been a fan of this team since 1988, sorely disappointed is a right, not an expectation.

[Brock]

Most of the times he was beaten last year was because of a lack of muscle. I hope this helps him.
Would be awesome if he plays like a top 10 tackle this season.

Right now it would be awesome if he was just an adequate replacement for Branden Albert.

[DaneMcCloud]

Right now it would be awesome if he was just an adequate replacement for Branden Albert.

If Fisher is somewhere between the 11-15th best left tackle in 2015, I'd be thrilled.

[Bowser]

Right now it would be awesome if he was just an adequate replacement for Branden Albert.

If Fisher is somewhere between the 11-15th best left tackle in 2015, I'd be thrilled.

Seriously

[Beef Supreme]

http://dependviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/steroids-in-sports-anabolic-ster.jpg

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/raw-chicken-23523034.jpg

[BigMeatballDave]

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/raw-chicken-23523034.jpg

ROFL

[Mr. Laz]

in before a hundy

in before 200 hundy


LMAO

[temper11]

Yeah, and we didn't ask to be Chiefs fans or have this kind of playoff futility bestowed on us.

Life is full of disappointments. Perhaps Eric Fisher can just suck up and take on the chin all these criticisms from strangers on the internet who post comments that he very likely doesn't read.

Whatever makes you feel better I guess.

[Baby Lee]

in before 200 hundy


LMAO

You think this is going to 20K?

[RunKC]

The guy most certainly looks leaner and stronger. He looks like he actually has muscles now.

Before.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/220/files/2014/04/eric-fisher-nfl-kansas-city-chiefs-jacksonville-jaguars.jpg
Today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL Eric Fisher. <a href="https://t.co/Xdnu2cAzJ2">https://t.co/Xdnu2cAzJ2</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/595967843545575424">May 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Laz]

The guy most certainly looks leaner and stronger. He looks like he actually has muscles now.

Before.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/220/files/2014/04/eric-fisher-nfl-kansas-city-chiefs-jacksonville-jaguars.jpg
Today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL Eric Fisher. <a href="https://t.co/Xdnu2cAzJ2">https://t.co/Xdnu2cAzJ2</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/595967843545575424">May 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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not nearly as much as you would hope


look at those arms, how hard could he be working with those 'puffy' arms?


I sure as hell hope he is stronger than he looks.

[DJ's left nut]

I would still love to see the Chiefs work on an extension with him. It would be a gamble, to be sure, but his 5th year player option is simply cost prohibitive as a 1st overall pick. As such, he's 2 years away from FA. If you're going to get an extension done, you'd like to do it while he still has 2 seasons of potential injury in front of him before hitting the market, thus convincing him to come to the table.

If you wait until his walk year, he's only 16 games away from FA and he's likely to take his chances ala Hudson at that point. If you can get him now, you have a chance to get him at below market. If he doesn't develop, you'll have made a failed gamble but I think he'll develop nicely.

Top 10 tackle is absolutely a realistic expectation for him.

[RunKC]

You can most definitely tell he's been working to get his arms stronger. His triceps actually look like triceps now and not flab.
He needed to get stronger up top because when he got bull rushed he had little power in his arms to hold up. I can't blame him for not having that part of his body stronger last year when his offseason training was directly after having shoulder surgery.

He looks like he's a lot stronger now. I really hope this helps him. We need him to have a good year.

[notorious]

I would still love to see the Chiefs work on an extension with him. It would be a gamble, to be sure, but his 5th year player option is simply cost prohibitive as a 1st overall pick. As such, he's 2 years away from FA. If you're going to get an extension done, you'd like to do it while he still has 2 seasons of potential injury in front of him before hitting the market, thus convincing him to come to the table.

If you wait until his walk year, he's only 16 games away from FA and he's likely to take his chances ala Hudson at that point. If you can get him now, you have a chance to get him at below market. If he doesn't develop, you'll have made a failed gamble but I think he'll develop nicely.

Top 10 tackle is absolutely a realistic expectation for him.

JESUS.


CHRIST.

[DJ's left nut]

JESUS.


CHRIST.

Eh.

It's not hard to see flashes of what made that guy the #1 overall pick. He has otherwordly talent if you're not ignoring it in favor of a narrative.

He's going to be a solid football player and we'd be well served to try to get him locked up under market. Stability along an O-line is more important than just stacking it with high draft picks. The longer these guys play together, the better the entire unit will be. Fisher's still extremely young and if you can get him locked up cheap, he can form the cornerstone for the line long-term.

That or you can just keep spending 1st and 2nd round picks on fat guys because you keep churning through starters.

Anthony Castonzo is a perfect example. As a rookie he looked overmatched and in his 2nd year he might have been worse but with some good games thrown in here and there. In his 3rd year he started to show signs of being a consistent plus player and by his 4th year he's a legitimate top 10 starting LT. The Colts were fortunate in that they could use their 5th year player option to retain him at about $7 million this year but he'll be a UFA after the season now. If they'd have gotten him extended after his 2nd season or even after his 3rd when he was clearly ascending, they'd definitely have a cheaper hit than $7 million this season and would almost certainly have a nice undervalued contract on their books for the next 3-4 seasons rather than facing the prospect of finding a replacement LT next season.

You have to take gambles to build excess value into your salary structure. Fisher's a very good place to take one, IMO.

[ThaVirus]

We can all agree that this is the year he needs to get his shit together, correct?

[DJ's left nut]

We can all agree that this is the year he needs to get his shit together, correct?

Yup.

As does Smith.

Those 2 guys are out of excuses and we need to see serious strides from both of them.

I think we will.

[Brock]

not nearly as much as you would hope


look at those arms, how hard could he be working with those 'puffy' arms?


I sure as hell hope he is stronger than he looks.

"Puffy" arms? The fuck?

[notorious]

We can all agree that this is the year he needs to get his shit together, correct?

Yes.

But I don't think strength training is going to help his horrible balance.

[notorious]

Eh.

It's not hard to see flashes of what made that guy the #1 overall pick. He has otherwordly talent if you're not ignoring it in favor of a narrative.

He's going to be a solid football player and we'd be well served to try to get him locked up under market. Stability along an O-line is more important than just stacking it with high draft picks. The longer these guys play together, the better the entire unit will be. Fisher's still extremely young and if you can get him locked up cheap, he can form the cornerstone for the line long-term.

That or you can just keep spending 1st and 2nd round picks on fat guys because you keep churning through starters.

Anthony Castonzo is a perfect example. As a rookie he looked overmatched and in his 2nd year he might have been worse but with some good games thrown in here and there. In his 3rd year he started to show signs of being a consistent plus player and by his 4th year he's a legitimate top 10 starting LT. The Colts were fortunate in that they could use their 5th year player option to retain him at about $7 million this year but he'll be a UFA after the season now. If they'd have gotten him extended after his 2nd season or even after his 3rd when he was clearly ascending, they'd definitely have a cheaper hit than $7 million this season and would almost certainly have a nice undervalued contract on their books for the next 3-4 seasons rather than facing the prospect of finding a replacement LT next season.

You have to take gambles to build excess value into your salary structure. Fisher's a very good place to take one, IMO.


I pray that he becomes merely average.

[Mr. Laz]

Yes.

But I don't think strength training is going to help his horrible balance.
lack of strength often leads to being off-balance


especially core strength

[CoMoChief]

I would still love to see the Chiefs work on an extension with him. It would be a gamble, to be sure, but his 5th year player option is simply cost prohibitive as a 1st overall pick. As such, he's 2 years away from FA. If you're going to get an extension done, you'd like to do it while he still has 2 seasons of potential injury in front of him before hitting the market, thus convincing him to come to the table.

If you wait until his walk year, he's only 16 games away from FA and he's likely to take his chances ala Hudson at that point. If you can get him now, you have a chance to get him at below market. If he doesn't develop, you'll have made a failed gamble but I think he'll develop nicely.

Top 10 tackle is absolutely a realistic expectation for him.

LMAO

You're so full of homer shit

[Hammock Parties]

Top 10 tackle is absolutely a realistic expectation for him.

The dude has been garbage for two years. Fucking hilarious.

[BigMeatballDave]

The dude has been garbage for two years. Fucking hilarious.

Eric or Geno? :)

[Hammock Parties]

Eric or Geno? :)

Eric Fisher is the Geno Smith of left tackles.

[milkman]

I pray that he becomes merely average.

lack of strength often leads to being off-balance


especially core strength

Lack of strength is not the reason for his lack of balance.

Foot work is.

He was project coming in, and still hasn't gotten his feet squared away.

[Brock]

He's just clumsy.

[ILChief]

Eric Fisher is the Geno Smith of left tackles.

I'd rather have the Geno smith of left tackles than the Geno Smith of QBs

[Rasputin]

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[loochy]

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yiJ9fy1qSFI?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

and they DID polish it

so it can be done

[BossChief]

I'm fairly convinced that we are going to get 1 good year out of Eric Fisher before we decline his option and he becomes a free agent.

[Iconic]

Inb4 he wrecks shit up and we regret not extending him.

[Rasputin]

and they DID polish it

so it can be done

Eric Fisher is that polished shit but he still stinks.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mingo wouldn't be this FAIL.

[notorious]

Lack of strength is not the reason for his lack of balance.

Foot work is.

He was project coming in, and still hasn't gotten his feet squared away.

He's just clumsy.

These.

Guy is bent over, out of balance every time a rusher fakes outside and moves in. It's pathetic.

[BossChief]

These.

Guy is bent over, out of balance every time a rusher fakes outside and moves in. It's pathetic.

Yup, he is terrible when rushers have more than one transition move.

I do think part of that was the inn effectiveness of the LG, but Fisher has a lot of work to do.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Crap, so next year our 1st round pick will have to be a god damn Left Tackle. I hate you people !!!!!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Chiefs could have taken Mingo and picked up a Fisher, ANY Fisher in round three.

[notorious]

Crap, so next year our 1st round pick will have to be a god damn Left Tackle. I hate you people !!!!!

We got our LT in the 2nd round. LMAO

[BigMeatballDave]

Chiefs could have taken Mingo and picked up a Fisher, ANY Fisher in round three.Can I have this Fischer?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXAjc0_JAumzUHRDsC4XaOj8JbyBxBG4C7OPirY3ZIygZz-4ju2Q

[Shaid]

I would still love to see the Chiefs work on an extension with him. It would be a gamble, to be sure, but his 5th year player option is simply cost prohibitive as a 1st overall pick. As such, he's 2 years away from FA. If you're going to get an extension done, you'd like to do it while he still has 2 seasons of potential injury in front of him before hitting the market, thus convincing him to come to the table.

If you wait until his walk year, he's only 16 games away from FA and he's likely to take his chances ala Hudson at that point. If you can get him now, you have a chance to get him at below market. If he doesn't develop, you'll have made a failed gamble but I think he'll develop nicely.

Top 10 tackle is absolutely a realistic expectation for him.

ok, I know how utterly ridiculous this sounds BUT if we signed him to an extension that only carried a signing bonus or first year salary as guaranteed money so we could essentially cut him with zero cap hit, I'm all for it. If we have a chance he turns into the LT he was supposed to be, it's a smart move extending him before he turns his shit around.

Worst case scenario, he gets cut and we move on. Best case, we get a cheap deal on a quality LT. I don't think it's a bad idea at all but dollars have to make sense. He'd probably get paid as one of the cheaper LTs out there(and rightly so).

[RealSNR]

Chiefs could have taken Mingo and picked up a Fisher, ANY Fisher in round three.

They're kind of hard to track, and KC is way too far south for them to live in that climate.

http://www.massaudubon.org/var/ezdemo_site/storage/images/media/ma-assets/images/fisher-at-irws-phil-brown/35985-1-eng-US/fisher-at-irws-phil-brown.jpg

[chiefzilla1501]

These.

Guy is bent over, out of balance every time a rusher fakes outside and moves in. It's pathetic.

We'll see. I've also seen him throw his body at pass rushers because he doesn't trust his arms. Maybe if he gets stronger, he can sit learn to sit back a bit.

He needs to get stronger. We know that. This is the first offseason he can do that. He'll have an actual good guard next to him. I don't know what we'll see, but if he's ever going to make a move, there's no excuse for him not to this year.

[Psyko Tek]

You damn well better be feeling good, Jack.

hell YA!!!
next year he has cars to sell, because he will be out of the NFL with what he has shown so far

[Ragged Robin]

does that mean he won't get his ass thrown around like a rag doll anymore

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Can I have this Fischer?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXAjc0_JAumzUHRDsC4XaOj8JbyBxBG4C7OPirY3ZIygZz-4ju2Q

When I'm done.

[DJ's left nut]

ok, I know how utterly ridiculous this sounds BUT if we signed him to an extension that only carried a signing bonus or first year salary as guaranteed money so we could essentially cut him with zero cap hit, I'm all for it. If we have a chance he turns into the LT he was supposed to be, it's a smart move extending him before he turns his shit around.

Worst case scenario, he gets cut and we move on. Best case, we get a cheap deal on a quality LT. I don't think it's a bad idea at all but dollars have to make sense. He'd probably get paid as one of the cheaper LTs out there(and rightly so).

Well he's carrying $13 million in cap hits over the next 2 years because of his signing bonuses and his base is guaranteed so that's about $1.3 million. He has roster bonuses totalling about $4.5 million over the next two years to that's really your baseline.

If you gave him something like a 4 year extension with an $8 million signing bonus you could give him base salaries in those years of something like 2, 3, 4, and 5 million so your total outlay if he plays the full deal (as you're hoping) would be 4/$22 million which would be well under market for even an average LT. From his perspective, he'd get $10 million up front to sign so it would have to be an attractive thought for him.

Now I'm not sure exactly how that would work with the existing years on his deal, nor am I even sure if he's allowed to sign an extension yet, but if you could figure out a way to work that so that he gets a nice chunk up front to sign, it might be enough to entice him not to gamble on himself.

If he's as much as an average left tackle at that point, you've got a great contract on your books.

[TEX]

A polished turd is still a turd...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Lock up your sons!!

I didn't say Persian.

what about the wives and daughters? I am assuming by this post that they are safe from BigGaySweetness?

Whoa whoa WHOA; GET THAT TURNIP TRUCK OF YOURS BACK TO EDMOND, AND GET AN OIL CHANGE, MOTHERFUCKER.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9k74zkxDH1qas5xlo1_400.gif

[Pasta Little Brioni]

MEH!!!! SHITLOOOOOAFFFF!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

MEH!!!! SHITLOOOOOAFFFF!

Eric Fisher will be SERVING shitloaf at Furrs in about 2 years.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Eric Fisher will be SERVING shitloaf at Furrs in about 2 years.

Dude, you missed a great opportunity.

Luby's Cafeteria.

[Baby Lee]

Heh, St. Louis is officially down to one cafeteria in the entire metro area. Ms. Sheri's in Warson Woods. And I've actually eaten there, because a mentor of mine was/is in his 80s and lives and worked nearby.

But Gram and Gramp sure loved Furrs when I was a tyke.

What's with old people and cafeterias?

[Mav]

Chiefs could have taken Mingo and picked up a Fisher, ANY Fisher in round three.


Bruh.....

[Mav]

When I'm done.


Btw. Speaking of a Fischer. How in the blue hell did Sasha Baron Cohen pull Isla Fischer.

[Baby Lee]

Btw. Speaking of a Fischer. How in the blue hell did Sasha Baron Cohen pull Isla Fischer.

He didn't

Regarding Isla Fisher, meh [not meh her, meh that she made a bad decision]. He doesn't have the prettiest of faces, but he's a fit dude and an effing comedic genius. In terms on putting his signature on a brand of comedy, he's up there with Andy Kaufman.

[Mav]

He didn't


Auto correct. Point still stands. HOW?!

[KChiefs1]

Has this been verified?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He's an animehl

[New World Order]

Dude, you missed a great opportunity.

Luby's Cafeteria.



Oh man Luby's was awesome.

It saddened me when they closed in KC.

[KCFalcon59]

Eric Fisher needs your help (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J48FBSK?ref_=gb1h_tit_c-2_0842_5d32c4f2&smid=A2DQD43TTVQP46)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Eric Fisher needs your help (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J48FBSK?ref_=gb1h_tit_c-2_0842_5d32c4f2&smid=A2DQD43TTVQP46)

He needs help alright.

[RealSNR]

Eric Fisher needs your help (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J48FBSK?ref_=gb1h_tit_c-2_0842_5d32c4f2&smid=A2DQD43TTVQP46)

I'd pay about tree fitty

[WhiteWhale]

Let me know when he starts blocking better.

[Hammock Parties]

This will be Fisher's last season as a starter on the OL.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This will be Fisher's last season as a starter on the OL.

Sweet trade a-comin', yep.

[Rausch]

This will be Fisher's last season as a starter on the OL.

Don't fucking tease...

[BigMeatballDave]

Why do you want Fisher to continue to fail?

Wouldn't you like to see him improve so that pick isn't a complete waste?

It would be nice to not have to worry about that position moving forward.

[Rausch]

Why do you want Fisher to continue to fail?

I want him the fuck out of my state.

He's already failed. He continues to fail and is allowed to fail because he was picked and paid by the current FO.

[BigMeatballDave]

I want him the fuck out of my state.

He's already failed. He continues to fail and is allowed to fail because he was picked and paid by the current FO.That is really silly behavior.

So, if he finally gets it, and becomes a solid player, do you still want him gone?

He'll never be worth where he was drafted, but wouldn't you like to see him become something to at least salvage the pick?

I hated Jackson, but I still wanted him to be a good player. He didn't, after 5 seasons here. I'm glad he's gone now. This is Fisher's 3rd season. If he fails this season, he's done.

[BossChief]

He's gonna need it, he faces a lot of big time pass rushers this year

Week 1: Watt/Clowney
Week 2: Ware/Ray
Week 3: Nick Perry (unless the move Matthews, which I doubt)
Week 4: Gilberry/Dunlap
Week5: Jared Allen/McClellin
Week 6: Griffen
Week 7: Harrison/Jones
Week 8: Ansah
Week 9: Bye
Week 10: Ware/Ray
Week 11: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 12: Hughes
Week 13: Mack
Week 14: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 15: Suggs
Week 16: Bryant/Kruger
Week 17: Mack

[RealSNR]

He's gonna need it, he faces a lot of big time pass rushers this year

Week 1: Watt/Clowney
Week 2: Ware/Ray
Week 3: Nick Perry (unless the move Matthews, which I doubt)
Week 4: Gilberry/Dunlap
Week5: Jared Allen/McClellin
Week 6: Griffen
Week 7: Harrison/Jones
Week 8: Ansah
Week 9: Bye
Week 10: Ware/Ray
Week 11: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 12: Hughes
Week 13: Mack
Week 14: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 15: Suggs
Week 16: Bryant/Kruger
Week 17: Mack

Most of those guys aren't big time at all.

[Eleazar]

Why do you want Fisher to continue to fail?

Wouldn't you like to see him improve so that pick isn't a complete waste?


No... They'd rather be able to crow about being right about him

[beach tribe]

Eric Fisher needs your help (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J48FBSK?ref_=gb1h_tit_c-2_0842_5d32c4f2&smid=A2DQD43TTVQP46)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh90/bbeal29/2776352-5018973633-tumbl_zpsmabjimuu.gif (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/bbeal29/media/2776352-5018973633-tumbl_zpsmabjimuu.gif.html)

[beach tribe]

No... They'd rather be able to crow about being right about him

So true

[BossChief]

Most of those guys aren't big time at all.

Some aren't, but a lot of those guys are.

Mack x2
Ware/Ray x2
Watt/Clowney
Ansah
Harrison (destroyed Fisher last year)
Hughes
Suggs

That's a lot of talent in a 16 games schedule.

If he doesn't step up, it's gonna really hurt us this year.

Can't afford to dig ourselves into an eaRly hole

[RealSNR]

Some aren't, but a lot of those guys are.

Mack x2
Ware/Ray x2
Watt/Clowney
Ansah
Harrison (destroyed Fisher last year)
Hughes
Suggs

That's a lot of talent in a 16 games schedule.

If he doesn't step up, it's gonna really hurt us this year.

Can't afford to dig ourselves into an eaRly hole

Clowney is a clown. He'll probably get another vagina injury again and won't even play against us.

Ansah? Really?

Hughes and old man Suggs are good, but nothing that a good LT shouldn't be able to control for the most part.

Fisher's going to allow some sacks this year, but not because his schedule of pass rushers is any more difficult than what other LTs have to face.

[Saccopoo]

Dude is going to be just fine.

Full, healthy off-season, Grubbs versus Linkenbach/McGlynn, healthy Charles.

He's going to be just fine.

[LoneWolf]

This will be Fisher's last season as a starter on the OL.

Any bet you want to make on this prediction, I'm game.

[mcaj22]

He's gonna need it, he faces a lot of big time pass rushers this year

Week 1: Watt/Clowney
Week 2: Ware/Ray
Week 3: Nick Perry (unless the move Matthews, which I doubt)
Week 4: Gilberry/Dunlap
Week5: Jared Allen/McClellin
Week 6: Griffen
Week 7: Harrison/Jones
Week 8: Ansah
Week 9: Bye
Week 10: Ware/Ray
Week 11: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 12: Hughes
Week 13: Mack
Week 14: Ingram/Attaochu
Week 15: Suggs
Week 16: Bryant/Kruger
Week 17: Mack

only guys that are going to give him trouble are Ansah, Dunlap and Hughes

[notorious]

He might rival Jafatass for the worst #1 pick ever after this year.

[Chiefshrink]

Pro Bowl or Bust. He will have to have a PB year for us to be successful, not just a good year but a PB year with who he will face. With the schedule we have he certainly has the opportunity to prove he is a PBer and possibly justify his No.1 pick with the critics , but he will never justify his No. 1 pick with me and I was in this kid's corner rooting for him in the beginning but now I just don't see it. Going into his 4th yr I have seen enough of this kid and he has "No confidence with soft" written all over him I'm afraid. And his soft comes not from actual legit physical injury but from a very insecure ego when getting manhandled over a period of time it seems.

I really do hope I'm wrong.

[chiefzilla1501]

He might rival Jafatass for the worst #1 pick ever after this year.

Not even close. He's a disappointing pick, but he'll be in the league for a while even if as a backup. You can't compare that kind of a player to players who were booted from the league after a few short years

[Chiefshrink]

Some aren't, but a lot of those guys are.

Mack x2
Ware/Ray x2
Watt/Clowney
Ansah
Harrison (destroyed Fisher last year)
Hughes
Suggs

That's a lot of talent in a 16 games schedule.

If he doesn't step up, it's gonna really hurt us this year.

Can't afford to dig ourselves into an eaRly hole

Yep!

[notorious]

Not even close. He's a disappointing pick, but he'll be in the league for a while even if as a backup. You can't compare that kind of a player to players who were booted from the league after a few short years

Disappointing is an understatement.

The next time he doesn't move his feet and yet another speed rusher leaves him bent over at a 90 degree angle grabbing for air we can fire up the "at least he's not as bad as Jamarcus" rationalization and feel better about ourselves.

[Chiefshrink]

Disappointing is an understatement.

The next time he doesn't move his feet and yet another speed rusher leaves him bent over at a 90 degree angle grabbing for air we can fire up the "at least he's not as bad as Jamarcus" rationalization and feel better about ourselves.

I'm afraid you are right:huh:

[chiefzilla1501]

Disappointing is an understatement.

The next time he doesn't move his feet and yet another speed rusher leaves him bent over at a 90 degree angle grabbing for air we can fire up the "at least he's not as bad as Jamarcus" rationalization and feel better about ourselves.

That's fine, but it's not the same as saying he's one of the worst of all time.

I don't think he's as bad as the critics say he is, though he certainly hasn't been that good. There's a good chance he could improve a lot this year.

[Chiefshrink]

Disappointing is an understatement.

The next time he doesn't move his feet and yet another speed rusher leaves him bent over at a 90 degree angle grabbing for air we can fire up the "at least he's not as bad as Jamarcus" rationalization and feel better about ourselves.

Tony Mandarich ya think ? Granted Tony was 2nd overall pick but the 1st OL off the board.

[chiefzilla1501]

Tony Mandarich ya think ? Granted Tony was 2nd overall pick but the 1st OL off the board.

Nowhere near the hype. Everyone knows Fisher was the top pick in an otherwise underwhelming draft.

Was an accomplished OL whereas everyone knew Fisher would be a project.

Didn't have the kind of limiters Fisher had (moving positions twice, inability to have a complete offseason conditioning program 2 years straight).

So the comparison wouldn't even be close. Fisher has proven he's good enough to at least ride many team's bench. He'll be in the league 5 years from now even if he doesn't improve.

[BigMeatballDave]

Pro Bowl or Bust. He will have to have a PB year for us to be successful, not just a good year but a PB year with who he will face.

Complete and utter bullshit.

He does need to play better, but he doesn't need that much improvement.

Besides, no one is going to replace Joe Thomas anytime soon.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"Eric JaFisher".

I like it.

[mcaj22]

could be worse, we could have drafted Dion Jordan, which is the definition of a bust.

[RunKC]

The guy isn't going to be Tyron Smith or Joe Thomas so anyone wanting him to be is crazy.

If the guy is a solid football player that is reliable in defending the blindside against the pass rushers we'll face, then I'm happy.

I can just see the same crowd unjustly calling him a bust week 1 bc the best player in the league beats him like he beats all the other OL in the league.

[BossChief]

only guys that are going to give him trouble are Ansah, Dunlap and Hughes

And Ware

And Harrison

And Mack

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

"Solid" would be hitting the Brady Lottery with this jank-ass pick.

[mcaj22]

And Ware

And Harrison

And Mack

if he cant beat two over the hill guys like Ware and Harrison with almost nothing left in the tank then he has no business being a starting LT.

[Chiefshrink]

but he doesn't need that much improvement.

I hope you are right:thumb: BUT we will agree to disagree on the part I bolded in your statement.

[ThaVirus]

only guys that are going to give him trouble are Ansah, Dunlap and Hughes


He'll get worked out by Ware and Mack. They're just too strong for him.

Still, I remain cautiously optimistic of Fish.

[Mav]

And Ware



And Harrison



And Mack


Mack is a problem.

[chiefzilla1501]

He'll get worked out by Ware and Mack. They're just too strong for him.

Still, I remain cautiously optimistic of Fish.

It will be a true test. We've all said he needs to get stronger. This is the first offseason where he can actually do that with an NFL conditioning program. I don't know of that will help. But it is a legit reason for why he could get much better this year.

[BigMeatballDave]

I hope you are right:thumb: BUT we will agree to disagree on the part I bolded in your statement.

I just don't think he needs to play at a Pro Bowl level(pipe dream) to be successful.

[TEX]

Eric Fisher sucks shit till he proves otherwise in games...I've been in his corner since "the pick", b/c it beats the alternative, but the time is NOW for him to show he can play.

[BigChiefFan]

He gave up 7 sacks last year. I wouldn't call that sucking. Could he stand to improve...absolutely, but I think he gets a bad rap because people expect HOFer with the number one overall selection. Keep in mind he's been injured and is just now 24 years old, with three years experience. Fisher should make the leap this year.

[chiefzilla1501]

To the original op, could boxing help him improve? I wonder if maybe he gets better shoulder strength and better use of hands? I know for a while the dline was doing a lot of work with a Jiu Jitsu coach, which obviously is very different.

[BossChief]

To the original op, could boxing help him improve? I wonder if maybe he gets better shoulder strength and better use of hands? I know for a while the dline was doing a lot of work with a Jiu Jitsu coach, which obviously is very different.

Fisher needs a much better punch and needed to learn to use his balance and leverage better.

Boxing will help him develop some of that.