What professional sports franchise do you think of when you hear "cheaters"?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

...I can't think of anyone else in the last couple of decades who come close to the Patriots when talking about cheating.


Seriously, can anyone think of a team associated with cheating more than the Patriots...guilty or not?

[notorious]

Without question.

[BigCatDaddy]

Broncos

[tooge]

Used to be Broncos. Now I'd say Broncos and Patriots. I will say this however, both of them got a superbowl or two out of it. Might be worth it.

[cabletech94]

toss up between pats and donks.......too close to call.

[Trevo_410]

Paris Saint-Germain or Manchester City or Lazio or Real Madrid... It's a toss-up for me

[Bufkin]

New Orleans Saints.

[WhawhaWhat]

Yankees.

[hometeam]

Raiders

[ModSocks]

Patriots and Broncos are the only two teams that come to mind.

[BlackOp]

Broncos...they won SBs with players they couldn't afford. Take Davis off those teams and Elway retires ringless.

[Red Dawg]

Pats and Donks have the long history.

[Rasputin]

Broncos Raiders Patriots.




I believe that it's not a coincidence that Scott Piolli became our GM the year after Tom Brady got his leg "Bone Crushed" by Bonecrusher. I think Scott Piolli Tom Brady & Bill Belicheck had it out for the Chiefs. How else did we get so ****ed up as a franchise? Even if it's not true that's how I believe.

[Chief Roundup]

Broncos and Patriots.

[loochy]

broncos

barcelona

[RobBlake]

seahawks

[Chief Roundup]

Wrestling and Boxing. They are not franchises per say but there are not franchises in those sports. Both sports are known to be or have fixed outcomes. I don't think the NFL wants to start going down that road.

[Stewie]

Michael Jordan. Once he became the face of the NBA he could do no wrong. He knew the refs wouldn't call a thing because they were intimidated. It was about the 100th time his pivot foot moved 3 feet to set up a move to the basket I quit watching (and caring) about that abomination of a "professional" sport.

[bigjosh]

Notre dame. Special privelage assholes

[GoChargers]

Patriots, Broncos, Raiders, Lakers.

[Deberg_1990]

Winnepeg Jets

[Bowser]

Raiders, Patriots, Broncos, Lance Armstrong

[chiefzilla1501]

Michael Jordan. Once he became the face of the NBA he could do no wrong. He knew the refs wouldn't call a thing because they were intimidated. It was about the 100th time his pivot foot moved 3 feet to set up a move to the basket I quit watching (and caring) about that abomination of a "professional" sport.

Wow, I can't agree with you there. That's the first I've heard of MJ getting preferential treatment. He played in an era where it was okay for other teams to hack the living shit out of him.

[oldman]

Donks, Pats, and the Yankees.

[Hootie]

Wow, I can't agree with you there. That's the first I've heard of MJ getting preferential treatment. He played in an era where it was okay for other teams to hack the living shit out of him.
People see what they want to see I guess .... Michael Jordan moving his pivot foot!? Uhhhhh ... lmfao

[Dave Lane]

Denver, Peyton Manning, the Raiders and Peyton Manning.

[wazu]

Broncos.

[Stewie]

Wow, I can't agree with you there. That's the first I've heard of MJ getting preferential treatment. He played in an era where it was okay for other teams to hack the living shit out of him.

Did you watch the Bulls during their run? The non-calls were so blatant that even the announcers wondered what was going on. How do you defend someone that gets to move 5 feet closer to the basket w/o dribbling the ball? Oh, it's Michael. We need him to pay the bills and build the brand!

[Start Croyle]

The White Sox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal

[Tombstone RJ]

Alex Smith because he cheated two franchises out of a lot of money.

[TEX]

Patriots, Broncos, Raiders, Lakers, White Sox, John Calipari

[gblowfish]

Yep, baseball is Black Sox.
Football: Pats/Denver tie
Hockey: Who would bother to cheat at hockey?
Basketball: Kentucky
Boxing: Mike Tyson
Others: Lance Armstrong, East German Women doing anything.

[Cmd'r&Chief]

Chiefs... They intentionally threw the 2012 season so they could draft Eric Fisher with the number 1 pick.

[jd1020]

How does the Black Sox throwing a WS because they were some of the least paid players, while simultaneously being the best players, mean they cheated?

When I think of cheating in baseball I think of the Tony LaRussa's Oakland A's.

[Hootie]

Did you watch the Bulls during their run? The non-calls were so blatant that even the announcers wondered what was going on. How do you defend someone that gets to move 5 feet closer to the basket w/o dribbling the ball? Oh, it's Michael. We need him to pay the bills and build the brand!
Lol lol lol

By all means, show me some clips of MJ and the Bulls and these 5 feet travels

[ClevelandBronco]

Depends. Is intentionally breaking the rules the same as cheating?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Pats/Broncos

[Radar Chief]

Broncos.

^this.

[R8RFAN]

Chiefs

[ClevelandBronco]

Chiefs

I knew there was no way they could go this long honestly without a playoff win.

[Rams Fan]

New Jersey Devils(how the fuck did they get their 1st round pick back after having to give it up before?), New England Patriots, John Calipari, majority of MLB teams during the 1990s.

[ILChief]

Broncos and Patriots.

If we included college teams, there would be a lot.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Chiefs. They've been cheating us out of meaningful January football for over two decades.

[alpha_omega]

The White Sox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal

This.

[BucEyedPea]

I think all sport's teams have had members cheat. If the team is dominant and successful then there's a lot more noise and attention about it. It's often just certain members —not whole teams.

Jerry Glanville said "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin." Tim Green says in his book The Dark Side of the NFL it happens almost every play in every game. It's consider fair if you don't get caught in the NFL. I've got specifics but gotta go.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The New Colorado Patri-o's.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I also think of the Chiefs, for the way they have cheated their fans out of anything meaningful for decades by building around garbage at the QB position.

Thank you.

[PunkinDrublic]

The 2006 Miami Heat. Dwayne Wade gets a trip to the free throw line every time a defender comes within 5 feet of him.

[srvy]

Raiders, Patriots, Broncos, Lance Armstrong

This for damn sure. The old eastern block Olympic athletes and professional boxing could go in the list.

[srvy]

MLB for allowing the steroid decade go on unchecked.

[Prison Bitch]

None. Only individuals in sports, and mostly just those who used Steroids.

[Bufkin]

Someone actually said Michael Jordan? Good grief. That guy was absolutely destroyed anytime he even considered going into the paint.

And even though Stockton/Malone > Jordan/Rodman, I have to give my props to the greatest ever.

[rico]

Broncos.

[EPodolak]

I'll say the Yankees, because it satisfies me to.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

BRONCOS

[BigBeauford]

Seahawks. Half those assholes are on PeD's.

[BigMeatballDave]

Lance Armstrong

Never cared about him cheating. How did he cheat when the entire sport is on or doing something?

[InChiefsHeaven]

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'...

[kcchiefsus]

13. University of Kansas- 6 Major Infractions

On of basketball's all time greatest programs is also one of basketball's cheatingest programs. The Jayhawks have spent 11 years on probation, and have spent 4 years banned from television. Starting in 1957 with illegal recruiting inducements and transportation, then 1960 with extra benefits, Kansas is no stranger to the NCAA. The biggest case occurred in 1988, and they made that shit count. This is the longest list of infractions in one incident I've seen so far,

Violation Sumary: IMPERMISSIBLE RECRUITING: airline ticket provided by athletics representative; local automobile transportation provided by coaches; loan, local automobile transportation and clothing provided by athletics representatives; payment for work not performed; head coach provided cash for an airline ticket; lodging on a credit basis; basketball shoes; impermissible involvement of an athletics representative in off-campus recruiting; meals; assistance in purchasing an airline ticket; entertainment during official visit more than 30 miles from campus. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. REPEAT VIOLATOR.

Damn, there you go KU, get that shit done son. Now we're getting somewhere. But I know we have better to come. If we fast forward to 2006 the Jayhawks made a hell of a run at topping the '88 list of violations, but fell just short. In 06 Kansas had a bit of an academic fraud problem in the football team, and they also managed to get in trouble recruiting basketball as well. Reach for the stars Kansas. They gave some recruits brother football and movie tickets, flew another recruit 1000 miles round trip to watch KU compete in the NCAA tournament (where I assume he realized they choke and chose another school) and gave two other recruits cash and clothing (does anyone really wonder why KU cleans up on the recruiting trail?). Oh, almost forgot, they also paid a recruits AAU coach $4500 (AAU really is the worst thing ever). Now, on to the football team. Fatgino was still the coach, and knowing him endorsed all cheating efforts (but not as much as he endorsed little Debbie). Basically what happened was a GA gave to JUCO players answers to a test to help get them eligible to attend the illustrious University of Kansas. All of these things resulted in 3 years probation, reduction in basketball scholarships over 3 years, reduction in off campus visits, as well as the graduate assistant getting a sweet show cause penalty. Did I forget anything? Yes, a booster also received a 4 year ban from association with the university. Now, while the athletic department avoided punishment from the NCAA I have to mention that ticket scandal that resulted in major jail time for several involved that wrapped up this year. Cheat on Jayhawks, cheat on.

http://www.cowboysrideforfree.com/2011/7/8/2255076/the-top-25-dirtiest-athletic-programs-in-college-history-iii-the

[srvy]

13. University of Kansas- 6 Major Infractions

On of basketball's all time greatest programs is also one of basketball's cheatingest programs. The Jayhawks have spent 11 years on probation, and have spent 4 years banned from television. Starting in 1957 with illegal recruiting inducements and transportation, then 1960 with extra benefits, Kansas is no stranger to the NCAA. The biggest case occurred in 1988, and they made that shit count. This is the longest list of infractions in one incident I've seen so far,

Violation Sumary: IMPERMISSIBLE RECRUITING: airline ticket provided by athletics representative; local automobile transportation provided by coaches; loan, local automobile transportation and clothing provided by athletics representatives; payment for work not performed; head coach provided cash for an airline ticket; lodging on a credit basis; basketball shoes; impermissible involvement of an athletics representative in off-campus recruiting; meals; assistance in purchasing an airline ticket; entertainment during official visit more than 30 miles from campus. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. REPEAT VIOLATOR.

Damn, there you go KU, get that shit done son. Now we're getting somewhere. But I know we have better to come. If we fast forward to 2006 the Jayhawks made a hell of a run at topping the '88 list of violations, but fell just short. In 06 Kansas had a bit of an academic fraud problem in the football team, and they also managed to get in trouble recruiting basketball as well. Reach for the stars Kansas. They gave some recruits brother football and movie tickets, flew another recruit 1000 miles round trip to watch KU compete in the NCAA tournament (where I assume he realized they choke and chose another school) and gave two other recruits cash and clothing (does anyone really wonder why KU cleans up on the recruiting trail?). Oh, almost forgot, they also paid a recruits AAU coach $4500 (AAU really is the worst thing ever). Now, on to the football team. Fatgino was still the coach, and knowing him endorsed all cheating efforts (but not as much as he endorsed little Debbie). Basically what happened was a GA gave to JUCO players answers to a test to help get them eligible to attend the illustrious University of Kansas. All of these things resulted in 3 years probation, reduction in basketball scholarships over 3 years, reduction in off campus visits, as well as the graduate assistant getting a sweet show cause penalty. Did I forget anything? Yes, a booster also received a 4 year ban from association with the university. Now, while the athletic department avoided punishment from the NCAA I have to mention that ticket scandal that resulted in major jail time for several involved that wrapped up this year. Cheat on Jayhawks, cheat on.

http://www.cowboysrideforfree.com/2011/7/8/2255076/the-top-25-dirtiest-athletic-programs-in-college-history-iii-the

Prepare your ass for the beaker onslaught.

[kcchiefsus]

This thread was or professional sports franchises. However, when you pay your players like the University of Kansas does I believe that makes you a "professional" sports franchise.

[Warrior5]

None. Only individuals in sports, and mostly just those who used Steroids.

BS. That may fit the Pats, but cheating is part of Denver's DNA. It permeates that entire damn organization, and has for over two decades.

From the owner on down, cheating is part of the Donkey psyche, and THAT'S why I despise them more than Oakland.

Raiders are just thugs; they're too stupid to cheat.

[Bewbies]

Since 1998 6 Super Bowls have been won by teams who have been caught cheating.

Well done NFL, sure makes me want to play by the rules...

[vailpass]

Paris Saint-Germain or Manchester City or Lazio or Real Madrid... It's a toss-up for me

Sounds more like a tossed salad...

[vailpass]

Someone actually said Michael Jordan? Good grief. That guy was absolutely destroyed anytime he even considered going into the paint.

And even though Stockton/Malone > Jordan/Rodman, I have to give my props to the greatest ever.

Rodman?

[loochy]

None. Only individuals in sports, and mostly just those who used Steroids.

So like 90 percent of the nfl? Got it.

[Shaid]

Broncos immediately jumps into my head, which is pretty sad considering just how bad the Pats have cheated.

[Dave Lane]

Alex Smith because he cheated two franchises out of a lot of money.

That's gonna be hard to beat

[chiefzilla1501]

It's not cheating, but how the fuck does Boston get away with being inside the pants of sports authorities.

Goodell is Robert Kraft's butt buddy

Mitchell Report for some ridiculous reason conducted by a former Red Sox exec