Is anyone else using Windows 10 ?

[TimeForWasp]

I've been using windows 10 for about a month now and somehow I hit the wrong key somewhere and made my text too small and cannot figure out how to change it back.

Figured it out.

Hey if anyone wants to try windows 10 you can go here.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
It is better than 8.1 so there is that.

[WhawhaWhat]

Have you tried restarting your computer?

[Donger]

Have you tried swiping from the front to the back, like a girl?

[Bowser]

Does it sound like this...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gsNaR6FRuO0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It does? Someone sold you a bad copy of Windows 10.

[WhawhaWhat]

No Bing search for that?

[RollChiefsRoll]

Call the Geek Squad.

[TLO]

Alt f4

[TimeForWasp]

Going to Napa to pick up some antifreeze right now.

[TimBone]

Try turning it off and turning it back on.

[digger]

Try turning it off and turning it back on.
This!

[Sure-Oz]

Is windows 10 free yet for win 8.1 users

[eDave]

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[mikeyis4dcats.]

http://bfy.tw/1I7

[Dartgod]

Does this help?

[Predarat]

Call 1-877-469-3263

[JimNasium]

This sounds like a question for Bob Dole.

[chiefs1111]

Call 1-877-469-3263

Actually should call 867-5309

[Gonzo]

Throw it in the river and get a Mac.

[splatbass]

People still use Windows? Why?

[WhawhaWhat]

Actually should call 867-5309

719-266-2837 for emergencies.

[TimeForWasp]

Is windows 10 free yet for win 8.1 users

You can sign up as an insider at microsoft and download the beta and get the updates.

[KC native]

People still use Windows? Why?

Because we don't want to pay the Apple style premium.

[TimeForWasp]

Well hell , after removing a bunch of bloatware and shit off my computer, I found the adjustments on the upper right side of my browser. duh. There must be a hot key somewhere that I hit.

[GloryDayz]

Does this help?LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

[Scorp]

People still use Windows? Why?

Because everything in the world is based off Windows except that dipshit apple crap where everything is backwards.

[vailpass]

Because everything in the world is based off Windows except that dipshit apple crap where everything is backwards.

This. Especially business.

[TimeForWasp]

I will say I like windows 10 better than 8.1. Still has bugs but i like it.

[Fish]

Because everything in the world is based off Windows except that dipshit apple crap where everything is backwards.

http://i58.tinypic.com/oa7swn.jpg

Back in my day we only had one desktop icon, and we liked it!

[GloryDayz]

People still use Windows? Why?

http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/lol.jpg

[Otter]

Still on Win 7 and not quiet sure why you wouldn't especially in a business environment. Give them about every 3 OS releases to get it in synch with hardware and user needs.

[GloryDayz]

People still use Windows? Why?

http://rlv.zcache.com/mac_snob_cards-rbac9f3bc8b42494ba3883d56876b6466_xvuak_8byvr_324.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nuW3ktwwkRE/SJlqyudJOGI/AAAAAAAAAMc/rUL8JIOhbvU/s400/MacPC.jpg

http://rlv.zcache.com/itired_a_nap_for_that_tshirt-r05c821b2107b4f66975dcef729e44ddf_804gs_324.jpg

[FlaChief58]

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[GloryDayz]

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[unlurking]

People still use Windows? Why?
Where's hometeam?!?!

http://evolveent.com/wp-content/gallery/crazytats/dumbest-tech-tattoos-tux.jpg

[TribalElder]

Because we don't want to pay the Apple style premium.

You pay it on the backside with problems and time invested

[GloryDayz]

You pay it on the backside with problems and time investedYes, yes, that's it... What I learned in my Apple days (iPhone and MacBook Pro):

1) They are just as quirky,
2) They don't so much as bother to give you a fucking blue screen,
2b) They don't even fade to black,
2c) They just pop to black.
3) They pretty much burn your skin if you have shorts on,
4) They think their users are too stupid to offer menus,
5) They sold their soul to the RIAA,
6) You must jailbreak the device or it will always suck,
7) Get to know your iPhone dealer, you're going to be going there a LOT,
8) If you're a company that uses Apple by default, you're a graphics company and everybody dresses funny and votes for Obama
9) If it takes you 8 years to get through college (doctors), you think Apple is awesome.
10) Security though obscurity works. Sad but true..
11) Most Prius owners are Mac owners too.
12) If you wear red glasses, you prolly own a Mac

Not that there's anything wrong with a Mac, but the repair to my 2-year-old MacBook Pro (new motherboard "they thought") was going to cost two Windows laptops.

[KC native]

You pay it on the backside with problems and time invested

I have Windows 7 on my desktop and Windows 8 on my laptop. Neither have given my any problems.

[Lex Luthor]

You pay it on the backside with problems and time invested

Keep telling yourself that. It was true 15 years ago. Not true today.

[splatbass]

Because we don't want to pay the Apple style premium.

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

As an old UNIX guy I also like Linux. And it isn't expensive.

[splatbass]

Keep telling yourself that. It was true 15 years ago. Not true today.

My paycheck says otherwise.

[Lex Luthor]

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

As an old UNIX guy I also like Linux. And it isn't expensive.

I take issue with the truism that everything about Apple "just works". I'm an old Unix guy too (AIX, Solaris, and several flavors of Linux). I manage a group that supports 400 Windows desktops, 150 Windows servers, and a half-dozen or so Macs. Macs have plenty of technical issues that need to be dealt with, and they cost 3 times as much. I honestly don't see the value for most business users.

[Donger]

I take issue with the truism that everything about Apple "just works". I'm an old Unix guy too (AIX, Solaris, and several flavors of Linux). I manage a group that supports 400 Windows desktops, 150 Windows servers, and a half-dozen or so Macs. Macs have plenty of technical issues that need to be dealt with, and they cost 3 times as much. I honestly don't see the value for most business users.

It's nice that your company employs at least six homosexuals.

[GloryDayz]

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

As an old UNIX guy I also like Linux. And it isn't expensive.

I hear there are like 3, maybe 4, IT professionals on CP, so we're all ears when we get a good one like you opining on things like this..

You make a living at it, that's some weak shit man, really...

Is this you????

http://www.billslater.com/certifications/1993_WFS_Windows_NT_3.1.jpg

[Lex Luthor]

I hear there are like 3, maybe 4, IT professionals on CP, so we're all ears when we get a good one like you opining on things like this..

You make a living at it, that's some weak shit man, really...

Is this you????

http://www.billslater.com/certifications/1993_WFS_Windows_NT_3.1.jpg

ROFL

So true

[Fish]

I take issue with the truism that everything about Apple "just works". I'm an old Unix guy too (AIX, Solaris, and several flavors of Linux). I manage a group that supports 400 Windows desktops, 150 Windows servers, and a half-dozen or so Macs. Macs have plenty of technical issues that need to be dealt with, and they cost 3 times as much. I honestly don't see the value for most business users.

They do not cost 3 times as much. That's ridiculous. As someone who manages both Windows as Apple computers, and manages the reporting data tracking their lifecycle costs, there's little difference between the two these days.

[DaneMcCloud]

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

LMAO

If you have problems with Windows, it's either because the machines are crap or you suck at your job.

[kcxiv]

People still use Windows? Why?

Because i cant play most games with anything else!

[eDave]

:lame:

We still argue about Mac vs PC?

[FlaChief58]

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LOL You're one wild and crazy guy!

[GloryDayz]

LOL You're one wild and crazy guy!

Welp, one bit at a time, I'm an IT professional..

[eDave]

Windows Is Coming

http://i.imgur.com/ZEqh0vl.jpg

Sauce: Reddit

[splatbass]

LMAO

If you have problems with Windows, it's either because the machines are crap or you suck at your job.

I don't have problems with Windows, my USERS have problems with Windows. Please pay attention.

Our machines are HP Z820s, a $4000 workstation (more than most Macs). I'm in charge of a system with sites all over the Pacific, and the sysadmins that administer them. I'm pretty damn good at my job.

[J Diddy]

LMAO

If you have problems with Windows, it's either because the machines are crap or you suck at your job.

Dane Wayne, we all can't afford the 9 million dollar supercomputers you use to play Doom. Geez.

[Lex Luthor]

They do not cost 3 times as much. That's ridiculous. As someone who manages both Windows as Apple computers, and manages the reporting data tracking their lifecycle costs, there's little difference between the two these days.
OK, I'll grant you that my statement about Macs costing 3 times as much may have been hyperbole.

In order to get a Mac at PC prices you really have to go with a Mac Mini, as iMacs and MacBook Pros are definitely not cheap. However I suppose it is true that if you add enough options to a Windows machine you can get those prices pretty high too. We typically max out our Macs on RAM and CPU, which of course would drive the prices higher than what we provide users as a "standard" Windows configuration (Dual core processor @ 4.0 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 320 GB hard drive).

I think it really comes down to personal preference. There was a time when Macs were technically superior, but in my opinion that era ended close to 10 years ago.

[Lex Luthor]

I don't have problems with Windows, my USERS have problems with Windows. Please pay attention.

Our machines are HP Z820s, a $4000 workstation (more than most Macs). I'm in charge of a system with sites all over the Pacific, and the sysadmins that administer them. I'm pretty damn good at my job.

Users are losers

[Reerun_KC]

Nothing better than a classic Nerd fight...

[GloryDayz]

I don't have problems with Windows, my USERS have problems with Windows. Please pay attention.

Our machines are HP Z820s, a $4000 workstation (more than most Macs). I'm in charge of a system with sites all over the Pacific, and the sysadmins that administer them. I'm pretty damn good at my job.

I feel there's a lot more to the story...

But let me get this right, your CIO has chosen to pay more for an HP product that his/her users have problems with than a cheaper Apple product. I have an idea what the root of that decision might be, but I'll choose not to guess.

That being said I have a few of those connected to my network, but they are a specialty machine used in graphics and CAD areas for just those purposes, so they're less that 1% of what we deal with corporately. And we so have Apple mixed in there too, and they have some terrible issues once you get past the ones (the only ones!!!) the end user cares about which seem to amount to a familiar look and feel, an apparent status symbol for keeping up with the other art-deco types! But the ISO and SysAdmin types have to deal with all the issues Apple seems to think their obscurity solves, so not all SysAdmins would think Apple solves much beyond not having to explain left-click vs. right-click. Suffice it to say, they get to live in their own Vlan!

But alas, if your CIO wants to spend more for a platform and OS that nobody really wants, that's kind of funny. If that's not true, s/he's not listening to her/his end users and SysAdmins, and that makes you wonder who s/he's listening too. HP pay-off? ISO types have him/her by the short hairs? Oh the drama.

[splatbass]

Users are losers

Users are the reason I have a job.

[splatbass]

I feel there's a lot more to the story...

But let me get this right, your CIO has chosen to pay more for an HP product that his/her users have problems with than a cheaper Apple product. I have an idea what the root of that decision might be, but I'll choose not to guess.

That being said I have a few of those connected to my network, but they are a specialty machine used in graphics and CAD areas for just those purposes, so they're less that 1% of what we deal with corporately. And we so have Apple mixed in there too, and they have some terrible issues once you get past the ones (the only ones!!!) the end user cares about which seem to amount to a familiar look and feel, an apparent status symbol for keeping up with the other art-deco types! But the ISO and SysAdmin types have to deal with all the issues Apple seems to think their obscurity solves, so not all SysAdmins would think Apple solves much beyond not having to explain left-click vs. right-click. Suffice it to say, they get to live in their own Vlan!

But alas, if your CIO wants to spend more for a platform and OS that nobody really wants, that's kind of funny. If that's not true, s/he's not listening to her/his end users and SysAdmins, and that makes you wonder who s/he's listening too. HP pay-off? ISO types have him/her by the short hairs? Oh the drama.

I work for the DoD, it has nothing to do with my CIO. Our workstations are high end, quad core, 16 Gig RAM and we are pushing them to their limits. These aren't corporate workstations used for email and spreadsheets. Ours are also mission critical and expected to work 24/7/365.

[Lex Luthor]

Users are the reason I have a job.

That's true for all of us in IT. It's just fun to say.

[splatbass]

That's true for all of us in IT. It's just fun to say.

Some of them are a huge pain in the ass, but without them I'd have to get a real job. ;)

[GloryDayz]

I work for the DoD, it has nothing to do with my CIO. Our workstations are high end, quad core, 16 Gig RAM and we are pushing them to their limits. These aren't corporate workstations used for email and spreadsheets. Ours are also mission critical and expected to work 24/7/365.

And THAT'S why you don't have Apple in the mix...

And you do indeed have a CIO, but I'm not lost on the very different corporate model DoD offers their IT people, but the same holds true for any government agency.

And last, now that you're getting closer to the super-relevant points, might I ask if the mission-critical applications that are used are developed in house - perhaps by the likes of SAIC/PRC/EDS/E-Systems/BlahBlahBlah - or is it an MS product that is engineered to work with Microsoft Windows.

I'm not sure I want to know all that, but I've been exactly where you are, and from UNIX, to LINUX, to VMS, with Solaris, to Windows, I always found that the more the OS vendor didn't make the software, the less stable it was. Hardly amazing. And one of the reasons Apple was so relaible, they used to make it all, and, for them, that was a good thing.

I've often wondered what might happen if Microsoft made the hardware, OS, and the Apps, would that make it more reliable? Prolly, but it would make them just another Apple too...

[splatbass]

And THAT'S why you don't have Apple in the mix...

And you do indeed have a CIO, but I'm not lost on the very different corporate model DoD offers their IT people, but the same holds true for any government agency.

And last, now that you're getting closer to the super-relevant points, might I ask if the mission-critical applications that are used are developed in house - perhaps by the likes of SAIC/PRC/EDS/E-Systems/BlahBlahBlah - or is it an MS product that is engineered to work with Microsoft Windows.

I'm not sure I want to know all that, but I've been exactly where you are, and from UNIX, to LINUX, to VMS, with Solaris, to Windows, I always found that the more the OS vendor didn't make the software, the less stable it was. Hardly amazing. And one of the reasons Apple was so relaible, they used to make it all, and, for them, that was a good thing.

I've often wondered what might happen if Microsoft made the hardware, OS, and the Apps, would that make it more reliable? Prolly, but it would make them just another Apple too...

It seems your knowledge of DoD systems is about 20 years old....in the late 90s the government went to mostly COTS software.

[KCTitus]

I like what I see with Windows 10...when we were reviewing our POC for Win8, I just wasnt stupid enough to navigate the GUI and it just didnt work well for anything but a tablet. Microsoft continues to prove they can reinvent another Windows Me/Vista product every other year and they did with Win8. 10 appears to be designed for an enterprise level.

As far as the Windows/Apple debate goes, that was fun...in 1997. Back when the hipsters all used Apple products, but the reality has flipped. Every grandma and tween own an iPhone or iPad...it's no longer hip folks, it's mainstream. Apple has certainly won in the engineering the GUI for the least technical among us, and that's fine. It still is not a mainstream business set up because its not cost effective in a very large scale.

[GloryDayz]

It seems your knowledge of DoD systems is about 20 years old....in the late 90s the government went to mostly COTS software.

COTS doesn't mean Microsoft made the hardware (they really haven't been allowed to, and some say they don't want to), and the application. And COTS is indeed squishy in the federal sector. There's "MS Office", and that's very much COTS, but there are applications written by vendors (Cerner and SAIC as examples) that are sold to government as COTS (if you look them up in the FAR). But you'll never find it on a shelf at BestBuy or OfficeMax. But this has very little to so with High-End HP workstations.

I just did a search of our ticketing system, and the only ticket I found for any Z820/840 related to two monitors going out. After finding the Z820s they have Win7 Pro, the entire office suite, and every thing from CAD programs to DreamWeaver (yeah, DreamWeaver!), and the security package like everybody else.

So I'm wondering where those Z8xx's are having issues, they seem rock solid.

IDK, that's why I stick to networking...

[TribalElder]

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

As an old UNIX guy I also like Linux. And it isn't expensive.

My paycheck says otherwise.
LMAO @ both :)

I take issue with the truism that everything about Apple "just works". I'm an old Unix guy too (AIX, Solaris, and several flavors of Linux). I manage a group that supports 400 Windows desktops, 150 Windows servers, and a half-dozen or so Macs. Macs have plenty of technical issues that need to be dealt with, and they cost 3 times as much. I honestly don't see the value for most business users.
Smit can suck it and so can hpux Sam along with oracle and the svcadm interface.
No way they cost that much extra. Get jamf if you wanna get serious about the windowsization of a Mac

Windows Is Coming

http://i.imgur.com/ZEqh0vl.jpg

Sauce: Reddit
Is that what the Gantt chart is calling for lolz


I've often wondered what might happen if Microsoft made the hardware, OS, and the Apps, would that make it more reliable? Prolly, but it would make them just another Apple too...
It would be a piece of shit with no market share, I.e. Windows phone

They are trying to bolt on android apps,because nobody wants to develop for a dead end platform that will never be adopted.


Most people hate on Mac because they don't know how to manage it in the enterprise at scale. (Thousands of users)

[DaneMcCloud]

Most people hate on Mac because they don't know how to manage it in the enterprise at scale. (Thousands of users)

I "hate" on Mac because I can build a superior computer for one third the cost of an Apple and easily upgrade it as well.

I'm good with iPhone's and iPad's but their computers are severely overpriced.

[TribalElder]

IDK, that's why I stick to networking...
Juniper or Crisco
I "hate" on Mac because I can build a superior computer for one third the cost of an Apple and easily upgrade it as well.

I'm good with iPhone's and iPad's but their computers are severely overpriced.

Quite understandable. I have a disposable laptop and desktop running Linux on cheap hardware.

[DaneMcCloud]

Juniper or Crisco


Quite understandable. I have a disposable laptop and desktop running Linux on cheap hardware.

I have to build high end computers for my studio and while the trashcan Mac's are sufficient, the hardware and software runs better on Win8x64 than whatever version of Apple's software is released each week.

And the coolest part is that I can pop in the latest CPU when it's released as opposed to buying a whole new computer.

[007]

I have to build high end computers for my studio and while the trashcan Mac's are sufficient, the hardware and software runs better on Win8x64 than whatever version of Apple's software is released each week.

And the coolest part is that I can pop in the latest CPU when it's released as opposed to buying a whole new computer.

Still can't believe how apple makes all their products non upgradeable. Oh, you wanted 16gb of RAM? Well you only purchased the laptop with 8gb. You will have to purchase a new laptop now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Still can't believe how apple makes all their products non upgradeable. Oh, you wanted 16gb of RAM? Well you only purchased the laptop with 8gb. You will have to purchase a new laptop now.
The only reason I have an iPhone is because most of my family have Apple phones so we communicate through iMessage. Otherwise, I'd never receive any texts.

I do like the iPad better than my kid's Kindle.

[splatbass]

COTS doesn't mean Microsoft made the hardware (they really haven't been allowed to, and some say they don't want to), and the application. And COTS is indeed squishy in the federal sector. There's "MS Office", and that's very much COTS, but there are applications written by vendors (Cerner and SAIC as examples) that are sold to government as COTS (if you look them up in the FAR). But you'll never find it on a shelf at BestBuy or OfficeMax. But this has very little to so with High-End HP workstations.

I just did a search of our ticketing system, and the only ticket I found for any Z820/840 related to two monitors going out. After finding the Z820s they have Win7 Pro, the entire office suite, and every thing from CAD programs to DreamWeaver (yeah, DreamWeaver!), and the security package like everybody else.

So I'm wondering where those Z8xx's are having issues, they seem rock solid.

IDK, that's why I stick to networking...

I'm not going to say what COTS software we use for obvious reasons if you are as familiar with government systems as you say. But most of the issues we have are not related to COTS software, but are roaming profile, registry, Active Directory, Outlook, etc. issues. In other words, Microsoft issues.

We didn't have many problems when our workstations were Solaris.

[GloryDayz]

Juniper or Crisco


Juniper is in the lab again, but none on the wire today (my peeps are excited to give them a go, so that's cool). I had a couple of MX80s in 2009/2010, and they were solid. I like how Juniper keeps Cisco on their toes... :thumb:

And yes, lots of Crisco. And corporately they seem poised to fall flat on their face is they don't get their shit in a sock. They aren't the Cisco of the 90s, not in the least. They still have one advantage, even if not cheap, they are still the one vendor that can put together an almost complete network solution, and keep the bulk of the issues within one corporate body. But again, that body is getting weak and frail under it's own weight.

And HP (Meh!!!). Yes, their gear is electric, other than that, nothing special at all.

And Brocade (more Meh!!!). And wow, they are one pushy fucking company. For a group bring exactly nothing special to the table, they sure do have some pushy sales assholes.

[GloryDayz]

I'm not going to say what COTS software we use for obvious reasons if you are as familiar with government systems as you say. But most of the issues we have are not related to COTS software, but are roaming profile, registry, Active Directory, Outlook, etc. issues. In other words, Microsoft issues.

We didn't have many problems when our workstations were Solaris.

Hey, you're DoD, I'm sure you can hire 552,000 more contractors and consultants to come in and "fix" your problems. :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

All joking aside, AD does appear to be Microsoft's weak underbelly. Hey, there's always Novell or Banyan VINES (those gems has DoD written all over it!!)...

[Fish]

LMAO @ both :)

No way they cost that much extra. Get jamf if you wanna get serious about the windowsization of a Mac


Most people hate on Mac because they don't know how to manage it in the enterprise at scale. (Thousands of users)

That's the truth. We are in the process of switching from a DeployStudio management solution that I built up years ago for my department, over to JAMF Casper for all our Mac management. It's pretty incredible what all it's capable of. We're providing management in ways that Windows EM can't even touch. If some of the Mac haters actually knew how to manage and use Macs, they'd be singing a much different tune...

[Lex Luthor]

Nothing better than a classic Nerd fight...
Seriously?

http://static.thefrisky.com/uploads/2009/12/01/women_fighting_120109_m.jpg

[58-4ever]

I grew up with Windows, I know all the shortcuts, I love it. Obviously they've shit the bed on a few versions, but I like 8.1 and 10 a lot.

[splatbass]

Hey, you're DoD, I'm sure you can hire 552,000 more contractors and consultants to come in and "fix" your problems. :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:



If only it were that easy. With the cuts due to sequestration a LOT of contractors got laid off (they can't really lay off federal workers, so contractors get it). We are doing a lot more with a lot fewer people. Times have changed, and those of us still working are very fortunate.

[splatbass]

I grew up with Windows, I know all the shortcuts, I love it. Obviously they've shit the bed on a few versions, but I like 8.1 and 10 a lot.

Sometimes it is worth the learning curve to go to a superior OS.

The government went your way ten years ago, switching from the very stable and reliable Solaris (UNIX) to Windows because "everyone already knows Windows". They reasoned that there would be less training costs. But IMO the costs of maintaining the Windows workstations is higher so they didn't come out ahead.

The government has started bringing in more Linux workstations, which is a step in the right direction IMO, but they haven't committed to go completely Linux.

[Lzen]

Actually should call 867-5309

Ask for Jenny.

[Lzen]

That's true for all of us in IT. It's just fun to say.

ID10T error.

Okay, I know that's old but it's still fun to say. :p

[Lzen]

Just found this thread. Windows had sent me something awhile back about Windows 10. They are getting ready to roll out that upgrade on July 29th. I just wanted to see how folks liked it. I was a little skeptical at first, but I think switching my laptop to 10 (I currently am on Windows 7) may be a good thing.

[Bearcat]

LMAO

If you have problems with Windows, it's either because the machines are crap or you suck at your job.

Ha... granted, a lot of issues are with other software, it's also easily the least stable OS out there.

A few months ago I rebooted a couple of Linux machines that had been up since January 2012 and didn't think twice about it. Microsoft has said the mean time to failure for anything running Windows, whether it's your laptop or a Windows server, is ~13 days. LMAO

[BigMeatballDave]

LMAO

If you have problems with Windows, it's either because the machines are crap or you suck at your job.Or it's running Windows 98. :D

I'm using an HP Mini running XP. Runs great. Of course, I only use it for internet.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Ha... granted, a lot of issues are with other software, it's also easily the least stable OS out there.

A few months ago I rebooted a couple of Linux machines that had been up since January 2012 and didn't think twice about it. Microsoft has said the mean time to failure for anything running Windows, whether it's your laptop or a Windows server, is ~13 days. LMAO

Probably true but it's pretty damn sturdy compared to what it used to be. I had a 2003 DataCenter installation that was 2 months from 5 years uptime until we had a power outage in March/April long enough that the UPS sent shutdowns out. It was seemingly going to run until it had a hardware problem some day :\

Most of the time Windows machines need rebooted constantly for updates so it doesn't get as many shots but I've seen some long uptime screenshots on uptimeporn.

For any OS I've never seen something higher than this

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/intel-server-uptime.jpg

[kccrow]

Build a PC, install Linux flavor. Best of both worlds. Someone please explain the major differences between Ubuntu Linux and Mac OS? Also, try to convince me that buying a Mac at that price point is somehow better than building a kick ass PC, that is upgradable, for half the price and three times the performance.

[bishop_74]

Build a PC, install Linux flavor. Best of both worlds. Someone please explain the major differences between Ubuntu Linux and Mac OS? Also, try to convince me that buying a Mac at that price point is somehow better than building a kick ass PC, that is upgradable, for half the price and three times the performance.

NERD FIGHT!!!!

[kccrow]

NERD FIGHT!!!!

Lol. nah. I use Windows because its convenient for gaming, otherwise I would use Linux more regularly. There is a reason most Internet servers run a LAMP setup though. :)

[penguinz]

Lol. nah. I use Windows because its convenient for gaming, otherwise I would use Linux more regularly. There is a reason most Internet servers run a LAMP setup though. :)Not for the reason you think. ;-)

[srvy]

I use the crap out of windows media center and wont even be an option after win 10. So MS basically says FU find another option. WMC works better than anything ive found out there for my purposes so I will hang onto my win 7 for now.

[Anyong Bluth]

Yeah. It's an improvement all except for being a resource hog- at least in the build version on some machines.

I have an extremely slim ultrabook that's got a core i3 with 4GB ram, but for some reason it doesn't play well running 10. It is so sluggish in responding I begin wondering if the system froze. It's not old hardware - windows 8 was the OS it had originally installed.

No clue why, other systems seem to have no issue at all.

I've meant to see if others were having this same problem, but just have been busy and not got around to it.

[JoeyChuckles]

I've been on Windows 10 since the Technical Preview started. I've loved it, even with the bugs in the beginning. It's like Windows 7 improved. The only thing I haven't liked is the Edge browser, but maybe that is just my anti-IE sentiment.

[Dave Lane]

If you want a good OS that just works you pay. If you want CRAP with lots of bugs you cheap out. I say this as an expert. I make my living as a Windows System Administrator Specialist. I like computers that work. I won't buy Windows. But thanks to Microsoft for making a piece of crap that keeps me employed....

As an old UNIX guy I also like Linux. And it isn't expensive.

I've seen all the operating systems from CPM to Mac and Windows and everything in between. I'm posting on a mac have 6 Windows boxes I operate and a couple iPads. Honestly they all are pretty stable at this point and pretty easy to switch between. If my Macbook had the expansion I'd use it for graphic editing. My main Windows box can barely do it and its a beast of a machine. I'm scared how much a similar mac would cost.

[kccrow]

Not for the reason you think. ;-)

Well here's the reasons I think of and you can tell me if I'm wrong.

Stability - up-time is outstanding on *NIX systems
Security
Hardware Resource Thrifty
Cost of Ownership - don't require huge hardware upgrades to go with expensive software upgrades
Compatibility of certain software/scripting languages - PHP, MySQL, Perl, WordPress etc run better on *NIX systems. You want .ASP or .NET run Windows though.

[KCFalcon59]

So has anyone upgraded now that W10 has been released? I just upgraded my son's old laptop and my 6 year old dell laptop. I couldn't have been more pleased with how easy it went. My sons went perfect and the only hiccup with mine was it didn't activate like it should. Though it was an easy fix with just a reboot.

This old laptop is running smooth as its first day. Very impressed overall.

[pr_capone]

Updated to 10 last night. Still in the process of re-installing all my software so haven't played with any of the new doodads.

[eDave]

Updated to 10 last night. Still in the process of re-installing all my software so haven't played with any of the new doodads.

I'm holding off till I feel like doing all of that. I am on my work laptop 99.9% of the time anyway.

[Fish]

Oh no!

http://i60.tinypic.com/xct345.jpg

[KCFalcon59]

Oh no!

http://i60.tinypic.com/xct345.jpg

That is funny. I saw that yesterday. :LOL:

[ExtremeChief]

I had a computer with XP, upgraded to Win7. I loved both platforms but for some reason I went through 3 power supplies and 2 hard drives in 4 years. I got tired of it not working so I bought a Mac. There is a lot of stuff I'm not used to or cant find but its very stable. I have a laptop with Win 8 on it and I literally can't do anything with it. I hate it. Is 10 going to be more like 7? It's like jacking with a cell phone.

(yes, I'm old)

[KCFalcon59]

Oh no!

http://i60.tinypic.com/xct345.jpg

Holy shit. I just had this happen to me while creating win10 usb media. Failed at 60% writing to drive. lol.

[Fish]

Holy shit. I just had this happen to me while creating win10 usb media. Failed at 60% writing to drive. lol.

LMAO... it's spreading!

[loochy]

Holy shit. I just had this happen to me while creating win10 usb media. Failed at 60% writing to drive. lol.

Oh, wow, that's real? I thought it was a photoshop by someone making fun of microsoft.

[eDave]

https://i.imgur.com/0m234lL.png

[Fish]

https://i.imgur.com/0m234lL.png

That's a feature. Not a bug...

[Chaunceythe3rd]

Does 10 take seven minutes to close like 7 does?

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Don't forget to turn off the hidden peer to peer windows update setting where you seed out windows updates like your using bit torrent.

[ILChief]

I installed it at work. I like it. Better than 8

[ChiefsCountry]

Windows 10 was cool and really liked the design but I switched back because my WIFI adapter wouldn't work with it, thus I had no internet and work to be done.

[Chiefs4TheWin]

Start > Settings > Update and Security > Windows update > Advanced Options > Choose how updates are delivered > TURN THAT SHIT OFF

[jjjayb]

I had a computer with XP, upgraded to Win7. I loved both platforms but for some reason I went through 3 power supplies and 2 hard drives in 4 years. I got tired of it not working so I bought a Mac. There is a lot of stuff I'm not used to or cant find but its very stable. I have a laptop with Win 8 on it and I literally can't do anything with it. I hate it. Is 10 going to be more like 7? It's like jacking with a cell phone.

(yes, I'm old)

It's more like Windows 7 than Windows 8. Liking it so far. Had 8 on my wife's computer and hated it like the plague.

[007]

Don't forget to turn off the hidden peer to peer windows update setting where you seed out windows updates like your using bit torrent.

Shit, so thats why my internet usage has been high since this afternoon. Fuckers.

[007]

Start > Settings > Update and Security > Windows update > Advanced Options > Choose how updates are delivered > TURN THAT SHIT OFF

wouldn't that turn off all updates that can be delivered TO your machine as well? There is not setting to just turn off their torrent?

[007]

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/30/windows-10-steals-your-bandwidth-to-send-other-people-updates/

Windows 10 launched on July 29 to much fanfare — it’s a free upgrade for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 users — but along with the privacy issues, there’s another small thing you should check: by default, Windows 10 uses your internet connection to share updates with others across the internet.

The feature, called Windows Update Delivery Optimization is designed to help users get updates faster and is enabled by default in Windows 10 Home and Pro editions. Windows 10 Enterprise and Education have the feature enabled, but only for the local network.

It’s basically how torrents work: your computer is used as part of a peer to peer network to deliver updates faster to others. It’s a great idea, unless your connection is restricted.

You can disable WUDO, but the option is buried in the settings menu for Windows Update under ‘advanced options’ then ‘choose how updates are received.’

Microsoft says that delivery optimization will not download or send personal content and only sends “parts” of the update cache but enabling it by default isn’t fair for users who might be on internet connections with limited bandwidth. I’ve asked Microsoft for details on how much data is sent when it’s enabled.

I formerly lived in New Zealand, a country where the average internet data cap is 40 GB. This feature being enabled could blow through a decent amount of my data without me even knowing it, if my connection wasn’t detected as metered.

If you’ve got limited amounts of upload or download bandwidth, it’s worth checking if this feature is enabled for you.

You can stop it sharing updates on these types of connections by setting your connection to metered or disabling the delivery optimization feature entirely.

The feature is a great idea — speeding up updates is good — but enabling it by default without the user’s knowledge is probably not a great idea.

Update: Microsoft says that the feature “helps people get updates and apps more quickly if they have a limited or unreliable Internet connection” and “does not slow down your internet connection” as it uses a “limited portion” of idle upload bandwidth.

Read Next: Windows 10: Here are the privacy issues you should know about

Spotted via Dangero

[Chiefs4TheWin]

wouldn't that turn off all updates that can be delivered TO your machine as well? There is not setting to just turn off their torrent?

It just turns off the seeding portion of the update. You will still get updates.

[DaFace]

Installed it yesterday on my home lappy. I changed over to a SSD simultaneously, and holy shit - that's one hell of a speed boost on startup!

Aside from that, it seems like they've done a nice job of taking all the shitty Win8 "improvements" and making them tolerable. I honestly can't say that I like it better than Win7, but at least it's tolerable again.

For me, if you're running Windows 8, it's an easy upgrade. If you're on 7, it's newer, which is cool, but you're not going to find anything mind blowing for the most part.

[007]

Installed it yesterday on my home lappy. I changed over to a SSD simultaneously, and holy **** - that's one hell of a speed boost on startup!

Aside from that, it seems like they've done a nice job of taking all the ****ty Win8 "improvements" and making them tolerable. I honestly can't say that I like it better than Win7, but at least it's tolerable again.

For me, if you're running Windows 8, it's an easy upgrade. If you're on 7, it's newer, which is cool, but you're not going to find anything mind blowing for the most part.I'm just a tad frustrated that the autoupdate didn't give an option for clean install. I'll have to redownload from their website to a USB drive now. Kind of a waste of time and bandwidth.

[DaFace]

I'm just a tad frustrated that the autoupdate didn't give an option for clean install. I'll have to redownload from their website to a USB drive now. Kind of a waste of time and bandwidth.

Yeah, it's clunky for sure. I also realized that I couldn't do a direct clean install - it wouldn't activate. You have to do an upgrade over Win8 first so that it registers your hardware as valid for the Win10 license. After that, you can clean install. So basically, you have to do it twice.

[007]

Yeah, it's clunky for sure. I also realized that I couldn't do a direct clean install - it wouldn't activate. You have to do an upgrade over Win8 first so that it registers your hardware as valid for the Win10 license. After that, you can clean install. So basically, you have to do it twice.wonderful. So I can't clean install the other computers in my home without doing it twice as well. ugh:banghead:

[pr_capone]

Since Windows 10 is the first to use hardware verification... I wonder if I will be able to install the Student copy of 8.1 that I bought to upgrade to 10 from.

[Quesadilla Joe]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/octjhIXkcf0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[listopencil]

Just started using it today. Nothing blows me away but it works.

[Quesadilla Joe]

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/windows-10-may-share-wi-164057617.html

Windows 10 May Share Your Wi-Fi Password with Facebook

If you're taking up Microsoft on its offer of a free upgrade to Windows 10, you should know that the new operating system has a feature, called Wi-Fi Sense, that automatically shares your Wi-Fi passwords with others.

When Wi-Fi Sense is enabled, anyone you have in your Skype, Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists — and any of your Facebook friends — can be granted access to your Wi-Fi network as long as they're within range. Microsoft added this feature to save users' time and hassle, but as independent security blogger Brian Krebs put it, some security experts see it as "a disaster waiting to happen."

Krebs and others worry about the potential for strangers or untrustworthy friends being given access to users' home Wi-Fi networks. Microsoft has tried to reassure them by pointing out that you have to agree to enable Wi-Fi Sense every time you join a new network, that those people to whom you grant network access can't pass along that access to yet more people, and that the feature doesn't share an actual password, but rather an encrypted version of it.

Despite the safeguards, the issue is nonetheless dangerous for those users, and there are many of them, who agree to everything their computers ask of them. If they agree to share Wi-Fi Sense with their Facebook friends, then, yep, all of their Facebook friends will be given access to their networks. (We've already encountered this request from Windows 10, which didn't really explain what the feature entailed.)

Wi-Fi Sense makes sense if you're visiting a friend and don't want to enter a long string of random characters to get onto his or her network. But have you pruned your contacts lists down to just the people you trust? Are all of your Facebook friends really your friends? Probably not. Most people have many contacts or Facebook friends whom they barely know — would you really trust your Wi-Fi password with your second cousin's boyfriend, or that guy in the neighborhood who once fixed your toilet?

The other problem is that Wi-Fi Sense lets you share access to more networks than just your own. You can share access to any network that you got onto the old-fashioned way — by typing in the password. Wi-Fi Sense doesn't distinguish between your home network, your office network or your grandmother's home network. If you typed in the password, they're all fair game.

Personally, we're going to ask that people never enable Wi-Fi Share if they bring a Windows 10 laptop or tablet — or a handset running Windows Phone 8, which also has the feature — into our house. We keep our password, which is somewhat complicated, taped to our home router for anyone who needs it.

Once Wi-Fi Share-enablers have typed that password into their Windows 10 devices, all of their friends can access our home network if they're within range. Even though we trust our friends and family, we haven't spent time with all of their contacts and Facebook friends, and we have no idea whether they're trustworthy.
How to stop Wi-Fi Sense sharing

If you want to disable Wi-Fi Sense on your computer and wipe its memory, that's not difficult. Go to Settings, select "Network & Internet" and then click on "Wi-Fi." Select "Manage Wi-Fi Settings," scroll to the Wi-Fi Sense section, and turn off each and every feature.

But that won't stop people who already have access to your network from sharing that access with others. You could just change your network password, but as soon as you share that password with anyone else, the problem starts all over again.

Microsoft offers a permanent solution to this problem, but it's somewhat insane. You have to change your wireless network's name, or SSID, so that it ends with the characters "_optout". So if it's called "joe-network", it'll have to be adjusted to "joe-network_optout".

There's another way to avoid this: Buy a wireless router that allows the creation of a guest network that has Internet access, but no access to other devices on the network. Many high-end routers already have this feature. Set up a guest network with an easy password, or no password at all, and sleep easy.

Now, you'll never have to worry whether that guy named Bob you met at the holiday party at the office you worked at seven years ago can lurk on your network.

[seamonster]

Throw it in the river and get a Mac.

I have a Mac book pro right now...And it sucks. The Bouncing bull shit on the bottom of the screen is incredibly annoying (as are the non stop barrage of random updates that don't appear to happen at set times like they do with Ubuntu and Windows), the Finder tool makes me want to smash my head into the desk, I-Tunes is a trainwreck, and I paid 50000* more for this god awful experience than if I would have went with a Lenovo or some other product. Incredibly disappointed with the vaunted apple design aesthetic.

I'll be switching back to Windows 10 as soon as possible. I'll take Windows Reactive design anyday over Apple's caveman ObjectiveC nightmare of an operating system.

And this isn't to mention that Apple has been getting pwned by hackers and maleware on a pretty much routine basis. I like how anybody can load firmware into my bios that gives BS apps the ability to circumvent any access controls available. Pretty cool feature to go with my skinny-pants mac book pro that I paid too much money for.

[loochy]

I have a Mac book pro right now...And it sucks. The Bouncing bull shit on the bottom of the screen is incredibly annoying (as are the non stop barrage of random updates that don't appear to happen at set times like they do with Ubuntu and Windows), the Finder tool makes me want to smash my head into the desk, I-Tunes is a trainwreck, and I paid 50000* more for this god awful experience than if I would have went with a Lenovo or some other product. Incredibly disappointed with the vaunted apple design aesthetic.

I'll be switching back to Windows 10 as soon as possible. I'll take Windows Reactive design anyday over Apple's caveman ObjectiveC nightmare of an operating system.

And this isn't to mention that Apple has been getting pwned by hackers and maleware on a pretty much routine basis. I like how anybody can load firmware into my bios that gives BS apps the ability to circumvent any access controls available. Pretty cool feature to go with my skinny-pants mac book pro that I paid too much money for.

Wrong. It's Apple - it just works better because all of the douches with skinny jeans, thick rimmed black glasses, and Scion XBs say it does.

[MahiMike]

Liking Windows 10 way better than 8. I really like the mail feature that lets you combine your mail accounts into 1 clean looking interface.

Also it got rid of the face recognition on my laptop that only worked half the time.

[Fish]

http://i58.tinypic.com/300xssy.jpg

[GloryDayz]

Son's new laptop has it. So far so good.

[Tribal Warfare]

It fuckin sucks it crashes firefox like a motherfucker I rolled back to Windows 7

[Saccopoo]

The only reason I have an iPhone is because most of my family have Apple phones so we communicate through iMessage. Otherwise, I'd never receive any texts.

I do like the iPad better than my kid's Kindle.

Google+ & Hangouts.

iMessage can suck it.

iTunes has my music files completely fucked right now. I've also got a $2500 paper weight in the form of an iMac computer.

Apple is as good as dead to me. Fuck them.

[GloryDayz]

Google+ & Hangouts.

iMessage can suck it.

iTunes has my music files completely fucked right now. I've also got a $2500 paper weight in the form of an iMac computer.

Apple is as good as dead to me. Fuck them.

I'm not sure I agree that they're THAT bad, but I'm with you on not needing to pay their prices. LOL, when we were buying the son's new laptop the doode was recommending a Mac because they're more secure! He was almost offended when I told him that "security through obscurity" is no good reason to buy from a vendor with so little market share.

So I too have have the iPhone, the Macs, and the iPad, and of all of them the iPad seems to be the leader. But it suffers the pain that the iPhone and Mac does, waaaaay to expensive.

It's all good, I get that some people want ease of use, it's OK...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Using now. It's aight.

Don't like the expanded start menu though.

[GloryDayz]

Using now. It's aight.

Don't like the expanded start menu though.

Odd, I like it... Perhaps it just because I'm old.

[chiefsgogo]

i am using XP.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

i am using XP.

P III?

[GloryDayz]

i am using XP.

Great first post! Rep!

[hometeam]

Using now. It's aight.

Don't like the expanded start menu though.

I took every single 'app' off of it, its a regular start menu now.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I took every single 'app' off of it, its a regular start menu now.

Is that under the general settings?

[GloryDayz]

Is that under the general settings?Right-click and unpin.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Right-click and unpin.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......:D

Let's see if I can rep you again.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Right-click and unpin.

"I must spread some reputation around before giving to my Broseph again".

:harumph:

[GloryDayz]

"I must spread some reputation around before giving to my Broseph again".

:harumph:

So it's this:?

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/1f/a2/3a1fa2b8fa74d5f35b2534848e4dd619.jpg


I need all I can get! I'm showing the bar-tender lady at the local watering hole my CP rep these days and getting free drinks, so it's important...

Rep!

[Earthling]

Does this help?

LMAOLMAO

[GloryDayz]

It came loaded on my son's new laptop and I just loaded it on the home system (the free deal), and I think it's fine.

It should have been sold as Windows 8, and what Windows 8 is should have been held off until 85+% of all devices have a touch screen (or sold as WinTouch). The Win8 we have on other touchscreen laptops was just fine.

But the look and feel is very-much more usable for folks coming from XP or Win7.

[baitism]

Apple is for people who need to spend more money on lesser technology. I have used both operating systems and OSX is a dumbed down version of windows. Like something you give old people so they don't fuck up their own computer.

[Bob Dole]

Apple is for people who need to spend more money on lesser technology. I have used both operating systems and OSX is a dumbed down version of windows. Like something you give old people so they don't **** up their own computer.

That isn't connected to the NSA and spying on you.

[Bob Dole]

I have a Mac book pro right now...And it sucks. The Bouncing bull shit on the bottom of the screen is incredibly annoying (as are the non stop barrage of random updates that don't appear to happen at set times like they do with Ubuntu and Windows), the Finder tool makes me want to smash my head into the desk, I-Tunes is a trainwreck, and I paid 50000* more for this god awful experience than if I would have went with a Lenovo or some other product. Incredibly disappointed with the vaunted apple design aesthetic.

I'll be switching back to Windows 10 as soon as possible. I'll take Windows Reactive design anyday over Apple's caveman ObjectiveC nightmare of an operating system.

And this isn't to mention that Apple has been getting pwned by hackers and maleware on a pretty much routine basis. I like how anybody can load firmware into my bios that gives BS apps the ability to circumvent any access controls available. Pretty cool feature to go with my skinny-pants mac book pro that I paid too much money for.

Bob Dole will PM you his address so you can send him your Macbook.

[GloryDayz]

Bob Dole will PM you his address so you can send him your Macbook.

I've had my current "at work" Apple for about 18 months old, I love the touch pad and screen. It's not quite as awesome as the touch pad or screen on my son's new Asus, but the Asus is brand new and kind of "top of the line" too.

It's all good, they all work, and if you have work buying you your Apple stuff, it's affordable enough at that point.

[lewdog]

Where do I get this free Windows 10 upgrade?

[GloryDayz]

Where do I get this free Windows 10 upgrade?

It popped-up on my home PC system (Win8) as part of the standard windows update. It didn't happen on one of the home laptops, and after digging into it a bit, that was because that particular version/instance of Win7 wasn't eligible.

Go here and see what you can find.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade?&SEMID=1&WT.srch=1&ocid=Win10Upgrade_SEM_GOO_MSBranded_ACTV_en-US_window%2010%20upgrade&wt.mc_id=Win10Upgrade_SEM_GOO_MSBranded_ACTV_en-US_window%2010%20upgrade

[lewdog]

It popped-up on my home PC system (Win8) as part of the standard windows update. It didn't happen on one of the home laptops, and after digging into it a bit, that was because that particular version/instance of Win7 wasn't eligible.

Go here and see what you can find.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-upgrade?&SEMID=1&WT.srch=1&ocid=Win10Upgrade_SEM_GOO_MSBranded_ACTV_en-US_window%2010%20upgrade&wt.mc_id=Win10Upgrade_SEM_GOO_MSBranded_ACTV_en-US_window%2010%20upgrade

Thanks. Just found the popup on my computer.

My wife transitioned her laptop last night and said it was fine. She recommends I do the same. I currently run Windows 7.

Should I upgrade?

[GloryDayz]

Thanks. Just found the popup on my computer.

My wife transitioned her laptop last night and said it was fine. She recommends I do the same. I currently run Windows 7.

Should I upgrade?

I would.. Especially from Win7. And if you don't have a touch screen, I can't think of a reason you wouldn't. Some fear new stuff, so there's that, but it went in just fine on a 2-year-old desktop... All drivers work, nothing failed (so far).

[temper11]

I didn't have any issues with the install. Everything still works as it should, all of my settings remained intact etc. etc.

I do like the feel of this better... they basically incorporated the tiles menu onto the start bar so 10 is kind of a mash-up of 7 and 8.1. But I like it. Seems to be a bit more intuitive to me.

My early recommendation to anyone that is eligible is to take advantage of it while it's available. Now if the "wheels fall off the bus" tomorrow, I will re-post, but for now... all indications are to upgrade.

[GloryDayz]

I'll say this, I have Win7 and Win8 laptops that aren't getting the "Üpgrade to Windows 10" Icon and it's pissing me off! Both are legit copies of windows and all patches are applied.

Stunning!

[DaFace]

I'll say this, I have Win7 and Win8 laptops that aren't getting the "Üpgrade to Windows 10" Icon and it's pissing me off! Both are legit copies of windows and all patches are applied.

Stunning!

Just download it.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[GloryDayz]

Just download it.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

I wanted to do it right (and understand why it wasn't going naturally), but I'm on the verge of doing just that.

Thx for the link...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Win 10 desktop has some weird issues. Like stalling when renaming files and folders. And that 'Cortana' thing is useless.

Otherwise, a pretty good OS.

[GloryDayz]

Win 10 desktop has some weird issues. Like stalling when renaming files and folders. And that 'Cortana' thing is useless.

Otherwise, a pretty good OS.

I'm running it everywhere now, and I've not seen those issues (yet). As for Cortana, it's no different that Siri, "OK Google", or any other IVR search front end IMO. So I've played with it just a little bit, and like the others I doubt I'll use it a whole lot "at home." I use the "OK Google" a lot on the phone (more than I thought I would at least), but sitting in the living room letting everybody hear all the things your searching for (don't even think it!!), is a way for an 11-year-old to be certain that his Dad is 1/2 nuts! "Hey Cortana: What's the air-speed velocity of a sparrow in flight?" or "Hey Cortana: What's the best way to draw a golf ball from the deep rough?" - yeah, Mr. 11 thinks you're nuts.

I have a 2-year Samsung AMD A8 Series-3 laptop (wife picked it up at Walmart of super-special clearance), and it took it quite a while to finish the load, I even got a, "this is taking longer than usual" screen", and even crashed it once when it hadn't done anything for nearly an hour (yeah, I get impatient sometimes [and have the Win7 disk too!!!]), but it's fine now and running better than ever.

The loads on the Dell Inspiron i5 laptop and XPS i7 desktops when very fast (and I hard-wired all of them to the cable router to get that 60Mbps of download instead of the 11'ish I get on wireless), so my living room looked a bit like 1990's CCIE lab with cables running all over. :LOL: Hell I had my 200-footer running upstairs to the XPS so that it wasn't having to use wireless!

I did dabble in the arena of using the Outlook.com process for logons. Odd that you really get put into that configuration while setting-up Cortana (it just seems unrealted...), and so far it's nice to use a PIN and have the common cloud storage scenario.

But so far I've not been upset.

[GloryDayz]

Run into my first problematic deal... On the XPS desktop computer one of the accounts (that was there before the upgrade) has a stuck "Start" menu (click on it and nothing happens), and the "Search" function is also not working. I've tried a lot of things suggested on the Interwebs but so far no joy. I might just make a new account..

No such issues on the other two installations on the laptops..

[GloryDayz]

Started playing with Cortana a bit today. I've got to admit, for what it is, it's pretty slick.

The younger sons thinks I'm nuts, but that didn't start today (it was just more confirmed). But I'm paying for his 18 holes of golf tomorrow, so he better keep it to himself!

[GloryDayz]

Just figured out that the "Start menu and Cortana not working" error deal had to do with using Avast. Removing Avast did indeed fix the problem..

What are people using for Antivirus (other than the built-in Windows Defender)?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Just figured out that the "Start menu and Cortana not working" error deal had to do with using Avast. Removing Avast did indeed fix the problem..

What are people using for Antivirus (other than the built-in Windows Defender)?

I'm using Avast, but I don't use Cortana.

[GloryDayz]

I'm using Avast, but I don't use Cortana.

I'm not sure if it's totally Cortana. Twice now, on two diffent systems, I've have the Start menu just stop. I'll take Avast off the other and see it it's fixed there too (for the one account where the Start menu was broken) and see if it's fixed.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I'm not sure if it's totally Cortana. Twice now, on two diffent systems, I've have the Start menu just stop. I'll take Avast off the other and see it it's fixed there too (for the one account where the Start menu was broken) and see if it's fixed.

Did you update your avast?

[GloryDayz]

Did you update your avast?

Yup...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Yup...

Damn dude, I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps disable Windows defender and see if you get a better result?