It's been a long time coming. Adiós.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

[Dave Lane]

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Well see ya...

[KC native]

Vaginitis.

THE STRUGGLE IS REAL!

[dirk digler]

That sucks. You are a good guy OTWP and I enjoy your posts. Sometimes taking a break is the best thing and hopefully you will be back by the time the season starts.

[BlackHelicopters]

Well Bye.gif

[Dante84]

Can't wait for Dane's take on this.

[Munson]

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[seclark]

hate to see you go...always enjoyed your takes.
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[Hammock Parties]

i pour a 40 out for one of the original 4 horsemen of the apo-cassel-ypse

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[KC native]

That sucks. You are a good guy OTWP and I enjoy your posts. Sometimes taking a break is the best thing and hopefully you will be back by the time the season starts.

This for real though.

Are you upset that I haven't included you in the top-tier poster thread?

I can if it is that important to you.

[Katipan]

Whose responsibility is it to make a bunch of adults get together and hang out?

[KC native]

Whose responsibility is it to make a bunch of adults get together and hang out?

Some other adults.

[Bootlegged]

Get some sleep. It helps with tiredness.

[Titty Meat]

You'll be back

[Sannyasi]

One of the best posters here. We don't know each other but I'll miss reading your posts.

[alpha_omega]

Take a break...come back just before season starts. Fuck the cheap shotters.
/great plan

[KCrockaholic]

Enjoy the Chiefs season.

We'll see you back in January.

[ptlyon]

Oh for Christ's sakes...

[Bootlegged]

Did u want Geno?

[Perineum Ripper]

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[KC native]

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[Rams Fan]

WTF happened? Link?

[Hootie]

WTF happened? Link?

you can only read so many KC Native posts before you want to leave forever, I'm assuming

[KC native]

you can only read so many KC Native posts before you want to leave forever, I'm assuming

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[Bwana]

You're a good dude with some very good takes. Take a break and come back at some point in the future.

[TrebMaxx]

I hate to see you go. You should do what I do and just ignore all the dumbasses.

[Rams Fan]

you can only read so many KC Native posts before you want to leave forever, I'm assuming

There are posters who make me want to correct the internet far worse than KC Native.

[duncan_idaho]

A sad day for this message board.

I hope you return in the fall, for football season. Won't be the same around here without you.

[KC native]

There are posters who make me want to correct the internet far worse than KC Native.

That's hootie's way of negging me. He really likes me. He just can't figure out a way to express it.

[Perineum Ripper]

That's hootie's way of negging me. He really likes me. He just can't figure out a way to express it.

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[Dave Lane]

Was it the post about the dog and his master. Damn.

Take a break and come back, its worth it.

[luv]

You know where all the good tailgates are at. And if they're no longer there, you're always welcome at ours. :)

[ptlyon]

Eat a snickers

[Titty Meat]

Where's Direckshun

[Bwana]

Oh and for a case of beer (the good stuff no swill!) I can make this thread vanish when you come back. :evil:

[Easy 6]

I've seen this idea that "no one left talks good football anymore" floated around from time to time, as well as the occasional "who are the top football minds here?" type threads.

I'd just like to see a list of these dozens of geniuses who've left, who are these masterminds?... Parker? didnt always agree with him but sure, a top football poster IMO, but who else?

Who are these incredible minds, inquiring minds want to know?

Frankly, this whole idea of "who are the best football guys" is a bunch of popularity contest dogshit mixed with "who do I usually agree with"... as far as straight up X's and O's, theres basically Sorter and Sully... everything else is just informed (or not so informed in many cases) OPINIONS.

I've flipped you some shit over the years OTWP, for good reason IMO... but its still too bad you're gonna bail out right before the Chiefs best season in God knows how long.

You're as passionate about football and pay as much attention to it as anyone here... but the "football IQ around here lately" argument is just plain junk.

See you in three months.

[loochy]

What? You don't want to hang around and talk about poop while there's no football being played?

[Hootie]

Oh and for a case of beer (the good stuff no swill!) I can make this thread vanish when you come back. :evil:

have you offered this to Dane? He'd probably send a case of craft beer 1st class to get rid of his!

[loochy]

BTW, "I'm leaving forever" threads create burst.

[Bufkin]

Vaginitis.

THE STRUGGLE IS REAL!
You should join him. Srs.

[Discuss Thrower]

Where's Direckshun

I'd guess he stopped posting because he's busy with family or work.



Or... he got tired of everyone bagging on his mother... Which is understandable.

[Holladay]

I remember when you came on board. You do have some nice opinions. And it is nice to see differing ones as well.

Do what I do. Read what interests you on the first page. Then only read the first page of the thread unless it still interests you. Assume what ever you were gonna say has or will be said. Thus have very little emotional connection. Move on to your next site of choice.

Join date Sep 2000, 894 posts:) That's called non-emotional connection.

[Amnorix]

Sorry to see you go. Best of luck with everything, and hopefully you come back when the season starts with batteries recharged and your ignore button primed and ready to go!

[Bwana]

have you offered this to Dane? He'd probably send a case of craft beer 1st class to get rid of his!

LMAO

That may require more than one case dude. :titus:

[Titty Meat]

This off season has had more football discussion than any other off season.

[Amnorix]

Join date Sep 2000, 894 posts:) That's called non-emotional connection.


Or "barely alive". Take your pick. :p

[chief husker]

I remember when you came on board. You do have some nice opinions. And it is nice to see differing ones as well.

Do what I do. Read what interests you on the first page. Then only read the first page of the thread unless it still interests you. Assume what ever you were gonna say has or will be said. Thus have very little emotional connection. Move on to your next site of choice.

Join date Sep 2000, 894 posts:) That's called non-emotional connection.

Where is the goddamn like button?

[Hootie]

This off season has had more football discussion than any other off season.

I don't partake in much Chiefs offseason talk ... it just leads back to one guy. BORINGGGG

I'll take other QB's all day long, though

[ptlyon]

Where is the goddamn like button?

Where you been boy - you going on the rag?

[BigRedChief]

We will always have Indy.

[KC native]

You should join him. Srs.

You should become a better poster. Srs.

[Hootie]

I planned on meeting him out for a beer the last Indy playoff game ... got caught up at a different bar, though

probably why we lost in epic fashion

[BossChief]

Well, that's a shame but maybe it's best for you.

Besides the 2 mentions of Peters and Nelson in this leaving forever thread, I can't remember you saying much positive about anything to do with the Chiefs since they drafted Berry...before that....not sure when.

If your constant outlook is so negative, you probably aren't getting any enjoyment from it anymore and sometimes a break can renew your interest in something you have an emotional attachment to. I know I read last year that you stopped watching some of the games, so the years have probably taken their toll. I'm sure the Indy playoff loss took what wind you had build up, out of your sails.

It's a shame you're leaving, as we've had some heated discussions in the past and it's been fun discussing hot points with ya over the years.

Take care and good luck with everything.

[loochy]

We made out once.

[RealSNR]

Aw c'mon dude.

Take a break. Six months. Twelve months. However long you need. Just don't do this "I'm leaving forever" shtick.

We want you here, whether you post as much as you used to or not. I hope you'll change your mind.

[Holladay]

"barely alive".

Close. Since I try not to get emotionally attached, I typically don't share much personal stuff. The reason the post count is so low is that in those 15 yrs, 10 of them I was in a coma.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm sure he'll be back as we perform last rites over Alex Smith's corpse.

[RunKC]

Maybe this will do you some good since you are one of the handful that bitch that KC doesn't have Aaron Rodgers at the helm.

Football discussion here never lasts long because it gets saturated with the anti-Chief tripe trolling that incurs with every goddamn thread, half being about a position other than quarterback.

[seclark]

We made out once.

just once?
fuckin wallflower.
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[KC native]

We made out once.

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[Bwana]

Close. Since I try not to get emotionally attached, I typically don't share much personal stuff. The reason the post count is so low is that in those 15 yrs, 10 of them I was in a coma.

Hopefully not literally. :huh:

[BigRedChief]

This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.Yeah, I had an open invitation to my tailgate for years. You'd see Rainman, AustinChief, Daface and other out of townees at any given game. We'd share jaggerbombs. That definitely helped each other feel a more common bond on the board.

[Bearcat]

That sucks... I'd suggest taking a break for a few months, which I've done several times. I don't really don't talk football much for a lot of those reasons, too... this place is here for my entertainment.

I don't think this place has changed much over 10 years though... discussions get tired no matter how smart the other people in the room are at the time and I've certainly changed quite a bit in the past decade and a half. I think the same stuff existed back then... we've lost regulars, but it's not like the percentage of smart people was significantly higher back then, but as a n00b you'll be more tolerant of it than if you've dealt with it for 10 or 15 years.

Not that it changes your decision, just sayin', there was just as much stupid stuff in the days of young Clay and Slayer than there is now, which is probably even more reason to bow out at some point.

[Holladay]

I typically don't share much personal stuff

That's the key. Heck I've got a post bout my son's golf cheated back and how I got mad at my wife, twice.

The coma thingie comes out when I see someone that I haven't seen in a long time and they say "Wow, I haven't seen you in a long time". My response, "Yea I know, I've been in coma for 6 months".

[Sully]

Sorry to see you leaving, OTW, although it's probably for the best. You've been angrier and angrier the past couple of years, on here, and it's probably better for you to take a break. I'll see you on the fb. Good luck.

[srvy]

That sucks. You are a good guy OTWP and I enjoy your posts. Sometimes taking a break is the best thing and hopefully you will be back by the time the season starts.

This

See you in a month.

[Buehler445]

Sucks man. I always enjoyed your takes. I don't talk football much anymore. Quite frankly the Herm years crushed my soul. I was about ready to get excited again until the playoff game happened. I still read shit here though. For the most part, there is still decent discussions around here, but like I said, I stay out of the football stuff save for reading some OPs.

Log back on when you've taken some time.

[TEX]

I dont get why people feel the need to ramble about why they are leaving a BB - Just go...Then come back after awhile if you feel like it. Or don't.

I've literally been around here since Day 1, and nothing anyone has ever said or done would cause me to leave. Ive taken many breaks. Just left and came back. All without ever saying a word.

[The Franchise]

Miss yah, man.

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[loochy]

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eatin' aint cheatin'

[Ceej]

You're a good dude and I enjoyed your posts.

I think if you're "getting tired" of a message board you were spending too much time there in the first place.

Take a break, come back during football season. We all know you're a masochist like ourselves.

[Pablo]

Later man. Been good bullshitting with you.

[Rasputin]

This is what we get because we root for a team that doesn't give us anything to brag about.


Until the Chiefs win a playoff game & or become the team we all want it to be with being a contender yearly then it's really hard to be encouraged to talk substance and be positive. That's what we have here is lack of quality from the team we root for I don't believe it's because of lack of fans being knowledgeable but frustrations.


Good luck OTWP wish you the best. Come back and join us when your up too it.

[R8RFAN]

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[dirk digler]

This is what we get because we root for a team that doesn't give us anything to brag about.


Until the Chiefs win a playoff game & or become the team we all want it to be with being a contender yearly then it's really hard to be encouraged to talk substance and be positive. That's what we have here is lack of quality from the team we root for I don't believe it's because of lack of fans being knowledgeable but frustrations.


Good luck OTWP wish you the best. Come back and join us when your up too it.

Yep. My Chiefs apathy is at an all time high. Until they win a freaking playoff game there is nothing to be positive or happy about.

[ChiefsCountry]

Yep. My Chiefs apathy is at an all time high. Until they win a freaking playoff game there is nothing to be positive or happy about.

Pretty much this. Just stay out of the Chiefs talk right now, because its pretty much worthless to talk about and enjoy the other conversations - baseball, other sports, DC is always an adventure lol.

[Fish]

Now the Chiefs will win the Superbowl this year, and you'll rue the day. Rue it I tell you..

I'll see you elsewhere, bud.

[Rain Man]

I envision leaving the board as stepping outside onto a porch with all of the other people who left. You hang out and chat with Skip Towne and Mr. Blond and Enddelt, and then after a while you come back in.

[R8RFAN]

You all are not winning a fucking super bowl again ever, You will be lucky to ever win another playoff game so all of you may as well quit the forum and go play in the traffic.

[C3HIEF3S]

Sorry to hear about this, OTWP.
I'm still a relatively new poster here, so I haven't been here and connected with the guys who've been here for 10+ years. But it sucks to see the good ones go. I stay clear of any Chiefs bs threads here anymore. Just not worth the energy to argue. I hope that you can take some time off of CP and be back for the season's start. You will be missed by many.

[DaNewGuy]

Take errrrrrr easy

[R8RFAN]

Sorry to hear about this, OTWP.
I'm still a relatively new poster here, so I haven't been here and connected with the guys who've been here for 10+ years. But it sucks to see the good ones go. I stay clear of any Chiefs bs threads here anymore. Just not worth the energy to argue. I hope that you can take some time off of CP and be back for the season's start. You will be missed by many.

stfu n00b

['Hamas' Jenkins]

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[BigMeatballDave]

I'm sorry, I was eating a Milky Way...

[mikeyis4dcats.]

My take: no one forces you to read anything. If you want football topics, then read them. If you don't like the posts, it's certainly easy enough to skim past them, put users on ignore, or do whatever.

[Gonzo]

God, you actually come here to talk football??? Wtf were you thinking?

[BlackHelicopters]

Quality human being. Please stay.

[Rasputin]

Gunter glieben glauchen globen

[milkman]

Other than this forum, I don't do social media.

So, good luck, path.

[Saccopoo]

I've seen this idea that "no one left talks good football anymore" floated around from time to time, as well as the occasional "who are the top football minds here?" type threads.

I'd just like to see a list of these dozens of geniuses who've left, who are these masterminds?... Parker? didnt always agree with him but sure, a top football poster IMO, but who else?

Who are these incredible minds, inquiring minds want to know?

Frankly, this whole idea of "who are the best football guys" is a bunch of popularity contest dogshit mixed with "who do I usually agree with"... as far as straight up X's and O's, theres basically Sorter and Sully... everything else is just informed (or not so informed in many cases) OPINIONS.

I've flipped you some shit over the years OTWP, for good reason IMO... but its still too bad you're gonna bail out right before the Chiefs best season in God knows how long.

You're as passionate about football and pay as much attention to it as anyone here... but the "football IQ around here lately" argument is just plain junk.

See you in three months.

Actually, I think we've had an influx of pretty solid football posters the last couple of years. There's always a handful of complete dipshits, but a lot of those are guys who were here before OTW58 started.

He's just being pissy because people are actually excited to see this team in action for the 2015 season versus busting on Alex Smith 24/7, of which he's always been a major proponent of since the trade. (You can see this in the OP - defense carrying the team, etc.)

Back to back winning seasons and a real shot this year and he's bailing because he's left holding the tar bucket and bag of feathers with only two or three complete dingleberries standing behind him.

[BigCatDaddy]

Probably the 2nd biggest loss to the board in my tenure just behind Mr Fax.

[sedated]

What about fantasy football threads???

[sedated]

Can I have your casino cash?

[BigMeatballDave]

You all are not winning a fucking super bowl again ever, You will be lucky to ever win another playoff game so all of you may as well quit the forum and go play in the traffic.

Ha! This is rich! Come back when your team can win more than 8 games.

[007]

Well this fucking sucks. sorry to see you go man but I'll keep up with you on FB.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Bro, when you told me you were doing this I didn't try and talk you out of it because I knew it was best for you for now. This is unlike ANY leaving forever thread because you are beloved here. I knew it was going to go like this and I wanted you to see it. Take some time and come back when this loser team gives you a reason too. You'll be welcomed whenever that is. In the meantime, we'll talk plenty and I wish you the best. Catch you on the flip side.

[Hammock Parties]

Back to back winning seasons

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[Saccopoo]

Back to back winning seasons in year two of a complete regime change is better than 2-14.

Well, to everyone but people like you and OTW58 and the like who will continue to post negative blather because the team didn't have the brains and balls to draft someone like Johnny Manziel or Brandon Weeden.

[scho63]

tl:dr :)
Gonna leave, blah, blah, blah, have issues, yada yada yada. That kinda sums it up

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[Bowser]

See, I was ready to come in here and light your ass up like the Griswold house at Christmas, but the truth of the matter is that if ChiefsPlanet is becoming a drain on you and your being a fan, it's probably best to step away for a bit. And I do mean "for a bit", because you and I know that this place is internet crack and nobody not named Mr. Blonde stays away permanently. Step back, take a breath, and hop back in when we celebrate Alex Smith being league MVP with his 4,781 yd, 39 TD, 9INT season. :D

You're mah boy Blue, and five times the fan I am. You and I aren't done drinking at tailgates, even if I haven't shown my face out there lately. :D

[Munson]

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[-King-]

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[Bugeater]

See, I was ready to come in here and light your ass up like the Griswold house at Christmas, but the truth of the matter is that if ChiefsPlanet is becoming a drain on you and your being a fan, it's probably best to step away for a bit. And I do mean "for a bit", because you and I know that this place is internet crack and nobody not named Mr. Blonde stays away permanently. Step back, take a breath, and hop back in when we celebrate Alex Smith being league MVP with his 4,781 yd, 39 TD, 9INT season. :D

You're mah boy Blue, and five times the fan I am. You and I aren't done drinking at tailgates, even if I haven't shown my face out there lately. :D
You forgot his 48 hidden touchdowns.

[notorious]

Took a 4 month break last year.

Best thing I ever did.

It's about time for another......

[Bowser]

You forgot his 48 hidden touchdowns.

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[Easy 6]

Actually, I think we've had an influx of pretty solid football posters the last couple of years. There's always a handful of complete dipshits, but a lot of those are guys who were here before OTW58 started.

He's just being pissy because people are actually excited to see this team in action for the 2015 season versus busting on Alex Smith 24/7, of which he's always been a major proponent of since the trade. (You can see this in the OP - defense carrying the team, etc.)

Back to back winning seasons and a real shot this year and he's bailing because he's left holding the tar bucket and bag of feathers with only two or three complete dingleberries standing behind him.

"No ones left to crush the Chiefs and these idiot Planeteers with every single post, too bad the Four Horsemen arent around anymore to obliterate all in their path".

I genuinely dont get it, leaving NOW... just as this club is about to become meaningful again, best overall roster since the days of Marty.

[notorious]

You know, if the Chiefs roll this year and win the Superbowl, you can't come back.

It would be bad luck.






(You're safe :D)

[LoneWolf]

Where's Direckshun

Direkshun left after his "Suggestion: Do Away With The Draft" thread. I started a lame parody thread titled "Suggestion: Do Away with Direkshun" and he got his feelings hurt. He sent me a rep message stating that he was going to take a break for a while and see how things germinate without him.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Just hang out in the golf/baseball threads.

I mean... Pete's in the baseball threads, so that's a net loss, but the golf thread is usually clean.

Think about it.

[Chiefnj2]

I can't believe he let Billay and Bosschief beat him into submission.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's OK to poop in the shower brah...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Direkshun left after his "Suggestion: Do Away With The Draft" thread. I started a lame parody thread titled "Suggestion: Do Away with Direkshun" and he got his feelings hurt. He sent me a rep message stating that he was going to take a break for a while and see how things germinate without him.

Didn't even know he was gone, soooooo

[LoneWolf]

Didn't even know he was gone, soooooo

I guess things are germinating fine then.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I wish you would stick around to watch Alex suck and fall short again; good times?

[BossChief]

I can't believe he let Billay and Bosschief beat him into submission.

Hey, if that's what sent him over the edge, the guy needed a break.

I'm just sayin

[SAUTO]

I will always love you buddy.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I wish you would stick around to watch Alex suck and fall short again; good times?

Could I convince him to stay with the soothing sounds of Toto?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Could I convince him to stay with the soothing sounds of Toto?

I've partied with Warpath. Cue up some Steely Dan.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This is what Chiefs football does to a man.

[Hammock Parties]

This is what Chiefs football does to a man.

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[Bowser]

Since we're on the subject, your ytmnd link is creepy as hell, and I can't stop listening to that music.

[BigMeatballDave]

I've partied with Warpath. Cue up some Steely Dan.

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[milkman]

Hey, if that's what sent him over the edge, the guy needed a break.

I'm just sayin

It's the constant battle of words.

Constantly clarifying what you said, when it shouldn't be absolutely necessary.

I get exactly what path mean't in his most recent argument, even if he didn't say it is such exact words that there could be no misinterpretation.

This team had talent before Reid and Dorsey arrived.

[Meatloaf]

OTWP, here's hoping you take a break and that we'll see you back in here this coming season. I think I know how you feel. I play golf and every so now and then have a "I'm never gonna play golf again" moment. It generally lasts until my next outing....never longer.

Are you really sure you want to miss my cogent posts and observations in the upcoming months? Hard to believe. Frankly, I think you need to rethink what you're doing as turning a blind eye towards truth, intelligence and extraordinary bullshit seems, well, not of a great decision.

Hope you change your mind and at least join us in Chat for the games.

Take care, bud.

[Hammock Parties]

Since we're on the subject, your ytmnd link is creepy as hell, and I can't stop listening to that music.

I like to watch.

[Easy 6]

It's OK to poop in the shower brah...

LMAO

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/customavatars/avatar3815_380.gif

Yeah, bout time someone said that story and pic is a bunch of science fiction... just like your Chiefs takes.

[Dartgod]

You all are not winning a fucking super bowl again ever, You will be lucky to ever win another playoff game so all of you may as well quit the forum and go play in the traffic.

And this one stays. :shake:

[stevieray]

I don't blame you.

[BigBeauford]

THE best takes on this board, my most repped poster. Good luck dude.

[cabletech94]

hope see you soon OTWP. you're a good dude.

[crazycoffey]

Take a break...come back just before season starts. Fuck the cheap shotters.
/great plan

This!

Let's at least watch a few games this year! I'm getting rid of direct tv this month so I'll probably need a place to watch a few. Hint, I'll bring food! Or be at webers, they're a chiefs bar

Otherwise, you got my number.

[Shaid]

I guess I'd say that as far as message boards go, this one has the most truth to it. You have your homers and you also have a lot of people that spew negativity. Everyone has a different opinion and yes, some people may blast you for it. Go to other forums and it's pure homers so I'll take the good with the bad here. There's an ignore feature for a reason or you could just choose to not engage in the drama.

[-King-]

It's the constant battle of words.

Constantly clarifying what you said, when it shouldn't be absolutely necessary.

I get exactly what path mean't in his most recent argument, even if he didn't say it is such exact words that there could be no misinterpretation.

This team had talent before Reid and Dorsey arrived.

Sure. But those teams were FAR from "only had one bad season" like he said. And isn't coaching up the talent you inherited a good thing to do as a head coach?

[Otter]

THE best takes on this board, my most repped poster. Good luck dude.

Why did you emphasize "the" and not "best"? Seriously, WTF?</br></br>Later bud, don't blame ya one bit.

[Rasputin]

He didn't say....

"Leaving forever"

[-King-]

Why did you emphasize "the" and not "best"? Seriously, WTF?</br></br>Later bud, don't blame ya one bit.

Cause it makes more sense with an emphasis on "The".

[KCCHIEFS27]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired of the false narratives. Tired of people arguing the poster instead of the post. Tired of discussing football with people who favor excuses over evidence. Tired of wasting time talking about an organization that hasn't won a playoff game in the lifetime of a college senior. Tired of watching other great posters leaving entirely or posting less, weakening the Football IQ this place was known for 5-10 years ago.

I know posting a thread instead of just walking away will open the door for many to take their cheap shots - we all know who they are - and if you don't, just wait. They'll show themselves. Those of you that know me privately know this has been building for a long time.

With all that said, I'll say what I've always said: This team has talent, but will continually fall short as long as they keep thinking you can win in the postseason consistently with average QB play. You don't put enough pressure on the opposing defense, and it puts too much pressure on your defense - if they don't have a near-perfect day, you lose.

Peters and Conley were great picks and should make an impact in the years to come. Should be fun to watch. (What? According to some, I NEVER say anything positive - just another false narrative) While I doubt he'll get his shot, I'd like to see if Murray can be that franchise guy, or if he fell for reasons other than what people here assume - namely, his height and injury history. Hopefully they get Houston signed long-term, because if they don't they are in deep, deep shit. The defense tends to carry this team, and Houston is the most important cog in said defense.

I've made a lot of great friends here that are still friends to this day, and will continue to be. This place was awesome when it was more community based - when there would be gatherings, tailgates, etc. Now, it's littered with trolls that take advantage of the anonymity of the internet and would never show their face in public. That attitude has weakened this place considerably, IMHO.

For those of you I call a friend, we'll be in touch. If anyone that isn't already a friend privately or on Facebook/Twitter wants to continue to keep in touch, I'll keep my PM's open for a week or so.

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while. Queue the "well, bye/sour grapes" posts in 3...2...1.

You're tired of spending 2-3 minutes typing a post? I mean, I could understand if this was the old days and you spent 3 hours constantly dipping your pen into a bottle of ink, hovering over a piece of hemp, while holding your breath so not to blow out the candle barely illuminating your desk. Arguments make us more intelligent and healthier. You are not always right, but you are not always wrong. Hearing the other side is an instrumental product in mental growth. Have fun hanging out with people that sit around and say "yep, yep, absolutely right" to everything that comes out of your mouth. This board, just like the rest of the world, has and always will have morons inhabiting it. I don't know you so this is clearly an argument against the post, not the poster. But I look forward to seeing your celebratory post sometime in January 2016 after we win a playoff game.

[Sandy Vagina]

Actually, I think we've had an influx of pretty solid football posters the last couple of years. There's always a handful of complete dipshits, but a lot of those are guys who were here before OTW58 started.

He's just being pissy because people are actually excited to see this team in action for the 2015 season versus busting on Alex Smith 24/7, of which he's always been a major proponent of since the trade. (You can see this in the OP - defense carrying the team, etc.)

Back to back winning seasons and a real shot this year and he's bailing because he's left holding the tar bucket and bag of feathers with only two or three complete dingleberries standing behind him.


LOL, you nailed it. :)

[DaneMcCloud]

Take a break, enjoy your summer and come back in September. :)

[Smed1065]

Good poster. Good time for a break.

[Willie Lanier]

I miss FAX..


And you shouldn't go...


That is all

[beach tribe]

The internet definitely has no shortage of pussies,, idiots and drama queens. This thread definitely qualifies for a col of those.
Its funny. It used to be the old guard hounding noobs till they made pussy threads like this, now its the other way around.
God forbid they still have the blind hope we lost years ago or else you'll have to act like a bitch and leave.
FTR I always thought you knew you're shit.

[lewdog]

If the Chiefs ever became good, half of the board would leave as there would be noting to bitch about.

[SAUTO]

I miss you already...

[EPodolak]

I remember when you came on board. You do have some nice opinions. And it is nice to see differing ones as well.

Do what I do. Read what interests you on the first page. Then only read the first page of the thread unless it still interests you. Assume what ever you were gonna say has or will be said. Thus have very little emotional connection. Move on to your next site of choice.

Join date Sep 2000, 894 posts:) That's called non-emotional connection.

Weird. Have you no convictions?

:jester:

[Hammock Parties]

If the Chiefs ever became good, half of the board would leave as there would be noting to bitch about.

BUT DUH CHIEFS ARE GUD

[Willie Lanier]

The internet definitely has no shortage of pussies,, idiots and drama queens. This thread definitely qualifies for a col of those.
Its funny. It used to be the old guard hounding noobs till they made pussy threads like this, now its the other way around.
God forbid they still have the blind hope we lost years ago or else you'll have to act like a bitch and leave.
FTR I always thought you knew you're shit.

Your*

[threebag]

Enjoy your break. Later OTWP....GO CHIEFS!!!

[J Diddy]

OTW is a solid dude, online and in person.

I'll have words with anyone who says otherwise?

Capiche?

[Deberg_1990]

Heh, love a good sandy vagina goodbye Thread.

I'll never understand why people need to create a scene when they leave.

If you want to leave, just disappear

[AustinChief]

Thanks, Kyle. It was fun for a while.

You will be missed and hopefully things will change and you'll be back.

[Otter]

OTW is a solid dude, online and in person.

I'll have words with anyone who says otherwise?

Capiche?

Exclamation point after "I'll have words" then the question mark after "capiche" for fuck sake.

[Titty Meat]

I can't believe he let Billay and Bosschief beat him into submission.

What did I do wrong? We were having a discussion and I politely pointed out what he was saying was factually incorrect. If that's wrong we might as well get rid of this board.

[BigCatDaddy]

Actually, I think we've had an influx of pretty solid football posters the last couple of years. There's always a handful of complete dipshits, but a lot of those are guys who were here before OTW58 started.

He's just being pissy because people are actually excited to see this team in action for the 2015 season versus busting on Alex Smith 24/7, of which he's always been a major proponent of since the trade. (You can see this in the OP - defense carrying the team, etc.)

Back to back winning seasons and a real shot this year and he's bailing because he's left holding the tar bucket and bag of feathers with only two or three complete dingleberries standing behind him.

I havent been around as much the last year or so. Who are these bright new football minds?

[DeezNutz]

This place has gone to shit since OTWP left.

(Take care, dude.)

[Coochie liquor]

Is this because I'm pregnant with your child?? Oh, I HOPE this ain't that boo...

[J Diddy]

Exclamation point after "I'll have words" then the question mark after "capiche" for **** sake.

Otters are my least favorite mammal!

Capiche?



Am I doing it right?

[Saccopoo]

What did I do wrong? We were having a discussion and I politely pointed out what he was saying was factually incorrect. If that's wrong we might as well get rid of this board.

Dude had a ****ing meltdown because Boss and Billay tag teamed him and did it rather calmly and without the vitriolic ad hominem usually associated with a discussion about Reid or Smith.

I thought they were being rather objective.

OTW thought it was going to be like this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2e51mx5.gif

But it ended like this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/dcc62b7802185b71fe0eea21ee9440e3/tumblr_mfrw7sdLyE1qhjbxeo3_400.gif

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/42932.gif

[Titty Meat]

Otters are my least favorite mammal!

Capiche?



Am I doing it right?


Bottom tier poster

[Titty Meat]

Dude had a ****ing meltdown because Boss and Billay tag teamed him and did it rather calmly and without the vitriolic ad hominem usually associated with a discussion associated with Reid or Smith.

I thought they were being rather objective.

OTW thought it was going to be like this:



ROFL

[Otter]

Otters are my least favorite mammal!

Capiche?



Am I doing it right?

Much better!!!

[Fish]

Another down from the legendary class of Sep 2005...

[Chromatic]

Another down from the legendary class of Sep 2005...

I am legendary.

[ThaVirus]

I am legendary.


Who are you?

[J Diddy]

Bottom tier poster

I'm sorry. I don't subscribe to WPI's poster ranking services.

[J Diddy]

Who are you?

Dude...He's legendary.

[Saccopoo]

Who are you?

He's The Legendary you illiterate fuck.

September Aught Five.

You know what this feels like? Like these dudes are coming out of the woodwork for a showdown. To the death.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/there_can_be_only_one_highlander.gif

[J Diddy]

He's The Legendary you illiterate ****.

September Aught Five.

You know what this feels like? Like these dudes are coming out of the woodwork for a showdown. To the death.

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/there_can_be_only_one_highlander.gif

I suggest to the pain and not the death.

[Eleazar]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/052/082/1240393095655.jpg

[SAUTO]

Dude had a ****ing meltdown because Boss and Billay tag teamed him and did it rather calmly and without the vitriolic ad hominem usually associated with a discussion about Reid or Smith.

I thought they were being rather objective.

OTW thought it was going to be like this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/2e51mx5.gif

But it ended like this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/dcc62b7802185b71fe0eea21ee9440e3/tumblr_mfrw7sdLyE1qhjbxeo3_400.gif

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/42932.gif link?

[BigCatDaddy]

link?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293188

[Saccopoo]

link?

Started about right here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293188&page=3

[ChiTown]

I'll never get these posts. Never. It's a fucking message board FFS. When I leave, it will be because the board is no longer here or I'm dead. o:-)

[teedubya]

It's time for me to bow out. It's been almost 10 years, and I'm tired.

Tired...

Going DOOOOWWWWWWWWWNNN in a BLAAAAAAZE of GLORY!

Lord, I never drew first, but I drew first blood. I'm no one's son. Call me the Young Gun...

ADIOS OTWP.

[teedubya]

Personally, I'm amazed the website is still up and running. It feels like home to me.

4 years older than facebook. Heh. #OldSchool

#OTWP may hate it since the Royals are doing so well now? Haha.

[Ming the Merciless]

come back when alex smith grows a dick or leaves the chiefs please

[Ming the Merciless]

I blame this on 20+ years of playoff failure

factory of sadness claims another

[Reerun_KC]

Took a 4 month break last year.

Best thing I ever did.

It's about time for another......

Took a 7 month break a while back. Agree 100&

[Sassy Squatch]

Wow. He was generally a well informed, quality poster but that Andy Reid thread was brutal. Tapping out because of billay and bosschief has to be one of the weakest ways to go out.

[jimidollar]

This board is gold, Jerry. Gold!

[suzzer99]

Yep. My Chiefs apathy is at an all time high. Until they win a freaking playoff game there is nothing to be positive or happy about.

It's not just winning one playoff game - but building a team the way the Royals have done. I feel like we were on the right path, but pissed away a few good players and then stopped drafting well. A team of also-rans that goes 10-6 and wins one playoff game isn't going to do a lot to shake me out of my Chiefs torpor I feel.

[DaneMcCloud]

It's not just winning one playoff game - but building a team the way the Royals have done. I feel like we were on the right path, but pissed away a few good players and then stopped drafting well. A team of also-rans that goes 10-6 and wins one playoff game isn't going to do a lot to shake me out of my Chiefs torpor I feel.

Yet how many people wanted Dayton and Ned fired midseason last year?

LMAO

[Lex Luthor]

Well, bye.

There's really only one difference between saying "I am leaving forever" and saying "Look at me, I'm an attention whore".

The second statement is the honest one.

[KCUnited]

IT'S AFUCKING PIECE OF CLOTH

[TimBone]

Does this have anything to do with Inmen being MU'd?

[loochy]

Does this have anything to do with Inmen being MU'd?

No, it has to do with Axl Smiff homers.

[Lex Luthor]

I just read Billay's "Andy Reid" thread, and it was hilarious. OTWP tried to attack Reid/Dorsey by making statements that were, to put it mildly, factually incorrect. To put it accurately, they were outright lies.

When other posters called him on it, OTWP decided to get all pissy about it and leave.

[tooge]

OTWP, hate to see you bail, but I get it. I frequent here less and less myself. Perhaps it's the off season? As I've gotten older, and as the NFL has gotten greedier, it's been harder and harder to be a passionate fan of the league, let alone the Chiefs. Anyhow, I've always hated the leaving forever threads. It's ok to leave, come back, take a break, whatever, but I hope you don't really bow out permanently. If so, enjoy the season man.

[sedated]

Can I have your casino cash?

gracias

[CoMoChief]

i pour a 40 out for one of the original 4 horsemen of the apo-cassel-ypse

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b30e951cc688293950d7db80dfd83140/tumblr_mpe1r8ntFI1r2du9bo1_500.gif

http://i50.tinypic.com/b6y8ll.jpg

LMAO god I fucking hate Matt Cassel. Can't believe that fucker stole $50-60M from this franchise.

[KC native]

Bottom tier poster

He's a shit-tier poster.

[DJ's left nut]

That's disappointing, though like a few others, I do question the narrative a little bit here.

This board hasn't become a 'homer' board. Admittedly the mood is more optimistic than it has been in many MANY years (perhaps ever), but shouldn't that be the case?

For the sake of discussion, let's just briefly set aside the QB position (we'll get back to it, don't worry). Is it a stretch at all to say that this is the most talented team overall that we've seen in 25 years? I can't speak to the old timers, but that's my duration as a fan and to my eyes, this team has more ability at more places than any Chiefs team of my lifetime.

Sure, it has holes, but welcome to a cap league. Every team has holes. I'd like to have an established #2 WR. I'd like to have a steadier OL and Ted Backer. But hey - scarce resources; you take what you can get. And at least we have some high upside plays in those thinner positions.

As to the QB position - I think it was Boss that said it, but if you just cannot enjoy any Chiefs team because we have an average QB, then perhaps he's right - stepping away may be the way to go. Yeah, he's a boring option that does little to elevate his teams but we're 3 years down the road now. If you're still carping about Alex Smith when he's been a solid but unspectacular QB for us, you're not going to be happy so I guess you're better served divesting, at least until the Chiefs make the play at QB that you'd like to see made (and c'mon, with Andy Reid here, I do expect they'll make that play when they opportunity meets motivation).

Chiefsplanet's core constituency isn't any different than it's ever been, IMO. You still have about 25% of the board that's endlessly optimistic and another 25% of the board that's endlessly pessimistic. The 50% in the middle are what control the character of the board. Right now that 50% is pretty happy with where the team is trending. Even people like Dane and me that have generally sided very much on the negative side of the ledger are very excited about the direction of the team. That's not being a homer - that's simply appreciating the efforts of a competent leadership team.

There are still smart posters here (especially now that I'm back for a spell), but CP is actually less of an echo chamber than it was 4 years ago. The membership hasn't changed as much as the outlooks of the members has, and with good cause, IMO.

[Eleazar]

I just read Billay's "Andy Reid" thread, and it was hilarious. OTWP tried to attack Reid/Dorsey by making statements that were, to put it mildly, factually incorrect. To put it accurately, they were outright lies.

When other posters called him on it, OTWP decided to get all pissy about it and leave.

Yeah, I couldn't believe that someone would leave over what happened there. It was mild and polite compared to most football threads.

I guess there's always that cognative dissonance feeling that happens when you start to realize that the facts don't fit your opinions and it makes you uncomfortable.

[Eleazar]

That's disappointing, though like a few others, I do question the narrative a little bit here.

This board hasn't become a 'homer' board.

It has always been an anti-homer board. The majority opinion here has nearly always been pessimism.

[DJ's left nut]

It has always been an anti-homer board. The majority opinion here has nearly always been pessimism.

Right, but that's because there's been ample cause for it.

It wasn't populated by 75% pessimistic posters, it's just that the 50% in the middle were given good reason to be down on the team's prospects.

Now the opposite is true. There are good reasons to be excited about the upcoming season and the 50% in the middle are probably 35-15 to the favorable side right now. So when you add in the original 25% eternal optimists, you're looking at a 60/40 lean towards the positive side of the ledger right now.

[The Franchise]

Yeah, I couldn't believe that someone would leave over what happened there. It was mild and polite compared to most football threads.

I guess there's always that cognative dissonance feeling that happens when you start to realize that the facts don't fit your opinions and it makes you uncomfortable.

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

[BossChief]

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

[Hootie]

BossChief kind of cracks me up. He's that soft, nice kind of huge douche who makes outlandish predictions and is the ultimate homer while trying to maintain that he isn't a homer, all the while thinking he's some sort of "incredible" football mind who could run a front office better than 2/3 of the NFL. It's cute, in a giant douchey kind of way.

[tooge]

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

[Lex Luthor]

I'm sure what you saw in the thread was mild and polite. BossChief has a tendency to send neg reps bitching and moaning when someone argues with him.
Neg repping is a pretty cowardly way to attack somebody. If someone doesn't have the balls to post his criticism in the public threads, he doesn't have any business hiding behind a neg rep.

But I wouldn't let a single poster run me off just because he neg repped me. I've received a few neg reps now and again myself.

[The Franchise]

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a fucking problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

[ModSocks]

That's disappointing, though like a few others, I do question the narrative a little bit here.

This board hasn't become a 'homer' board. Admittedly the mood is more optimistic than it has been in many MANY years (perhaps ever), but shouldn't that be the case?

For the sake of discussion, let's just briefly set aside the QB position (we'll get back to it, don't worry). Is it a stretch at all to say that this is the most talented team overall that we've seen in 25 years? I can't speak to the old timers, but that's my duration as a fan and to my eyes, this team has more ability at more places than any Chiefs team of my lifetime.

Sure, it has holes, but welcome to a cap league. Every team has holes. I'd like to have an established #2 WR. I'd like to have a steadier OL and Ted Backer. But hey - scarce resources; you take what you can get. And at least we have some high upside plays in those thinner positions.

As to the QB position - I think it was Boss that said it, but if you just cannot enjoy any Chiefs team because we have an average QB, then perhaps he's right - stepping away may be the way to go. Yeah, he's a boring option that does little to elevate his teams but we're 3 years down the road now. If you're still carping about Alex Smith when he's been a solid but unspectacular QB for us, you're not going to be happy so I guess you're better served divesting, at least until the Chiefs make the play at QB that you'd like to see made (and c'mon, with Andy Reid here, I do expect they'll make that play when they opportunity meets motivation).

Chiefsplanet's core constituency isn't any different than it's ever been, IMO. You still have about 25% of the board that's endlessly optimistic and another 25% of the board that's endlessly pessimistic. The 50% in the middle are what control the character of the board. Right now that 50% is pretty happy with where the team is trending. Even people like Dane and me that have generally sided very much on the negative side of the ledger are very excited about the direction of the team. That's not being a homer - that's simply appreciating the efforts of a competent leadership team.

There are still smart posters here (especially now that I'm back for a spell), but CP is actually less of an echo chamber than it was 4 years ago. The membership hasn't changed as much as the outlooks of the members has, and with good cause, IMO.

Always the voice of reason.

IMO, these threads are dumb. I thought much, much higher of you OTWP. Threads like these are for shitty posters.

[Lex Luthor]

That's bull.

I'll post every single neg rep I've ever given if you'd like...including what I sent to Path.

I've sent 14 n the last 2 years and only 4 were to anyone but Blackbob.
Don't take my previous post personally. I was referring to neg reps in general. Sounds like you're not one of those guys.

[Hootie]

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

I feel like Boss was left out a lot in life and he tries to make up for it here

[BossChief]

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

I wanted us to trade for Alex Smith (but didn't want to spend more than a third to get him) AND draft a QB high in the draft. My preference was Geno Smith. I wanted Alex to be a placeholder for a young QBOTF. I even called for sitting Geno 2 years if we drafted him.

I've always been in the "draft the best QB you can and build around him" guy...and always will be. But, hey...we got Eric Fisher. I'm actually interested to see how Geno does with a creative OC in Chan Gailey and some weapons at WR to work with. The third year is when most QBs start to "get it" and if we had drafted him and developed him, who knows. I was probably wrong on that one, but hey. Can't win em all.

[Chiefnj2]

BossChief kind of cracks me up. He's that soft, nice kind of huge douche who makes outlandish predictions and is the ultimate homer while trying to maintain that he isn't a homer, all the while thinking he's some sort of "incredible" football mind who could run a front office better than 2/3 of the NFL. It's cute, in a giant douchey kind of way.

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Geno Smith sucks and always will.

[Hootie]

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

BossGlazer is such a jerk ! Not sharing those videos with the public !

[bevischief]

Most of the long time posters don't post anymore. More lurking than posting.

[BossChief]

That's because you don't always send them through as neg reps. 75% of the "Get off my nuts" or "Why do you have a ****ing problem with me?" comments are pos-reps from you.

That's bull, too. I just looked at all of my rep given going back to 12/13 and haven't found a single rep like that. Not 1. Maybe there is one from before that, but I don't think so. Also, I've never sent a rep message that I didn't already say what I had to say in the actual thread. Keep trying.

If you'd like, I can post a screen cap of my reps given.

[Hootie]

we really want to see 'em, Boss!!! Yeah! Post them!!

[BossChief]

Plus, he's still sitting on the Dez Bryant video.

Don't forget StanziMania.

[The Franchise]

That's bull, too. I just looked at all of my rep given going back to 12/13 and haven't found a single rep like that. Not 1. Maybe there is one from before that, but I don't think so. Also, I've never sent a rep message that I didn't already say what I had to say in the actual thread. Keep trying.

If you'd like, I can post a screen cap of my reps given.

You sent me this neg-rep.

Why does it bother you so fucking bad that I'm right a lot? Stop being jealous and get off my NUTS.

Because I agreed with this post by King in the "Save Our Chiefs" thread.

This was such a great plan that I came up with! /BossChief



But seriously, good job guys. I had doubts at first, but I started to believe after a couple weeks and now my faith has been proven.

And here's the screen cap if you don't believe me.

[The Franchise]

And here's a pos-rep of you questioning what I have against you. Clay created the fucking thread.

You know who deserve the appreciation?

PR and Marty....and the people that donated their money.


I didnt really get a chance to read through this thread when Clay posted it and after reading it I gotta ask? Whats your deal with me? Not that I care what people think of me, I dont, but you always seem to want to piss in my cheerios. Not sure why.

[The Franchise]

And I generally DON'T have a problem with you. The times that I do....it's because your attitude is "Hey everyone.....remember when I said this!?!?". Or "looks like I was right about this."

[Saccopoo]

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.



He (Geno Smith) threw six touchdown passes and three interceptions in the last six weeks of the 2014 season. His completion percentage in those games was 65.7 percent, which would place him in the top-10 in the league if he could do that over the course of a regular season. Over the last four weeks, Smith went 2-2 and threw for 358 yards, three scores and no picks in a 37-24 victory over Miami in the season finale.

Geno Smith was credited with having thrown 13 interceptions last season, which was middle of the pack in the NFL. 10 Quarterbacks threw more interceptions than Geno and that group included a lot of elite quarterbacks. Obviously throwing interceptions is just a small portion of the position but for the purpose of this article we're looking at it in vacuum.

Cian Fahey didn't just look at the interceptions, he charted every single pass that Geno threw and the results were quite interesting. Although these are subjective findings, after studying all 367 of Geno's throws, only 17 of them were deemed to be interceptable passes.

NFL.com:
Geno's lowest moment as a pro was the last memory most folks have of him. In an ugly Week 13 loss to Miami on Monday Night Football, Rex Ryan was so afraid of letting Smith actually play quarterback that the Jets only attempted 13 passes compared to 49 rushes. Rex told a national audience that he'd rather set offensive progress back 40 years than allow Smith to do his job.

And then suddenly Geno started to do his job quite well. In the last four games, Smith completed 65 percent of his passes for 1,001 yards, six touchdowns, and two picks. He averaged 9.2 yards-per-attempt over that stretch, tied for best in the league. By the time the Jets played Miami again in Week 17, Geno was virtually flawless.

I re-watched each Smith snap on the coaches film from Game Rewind to see how he pulled off this turnaround. Here are my biggest takeaways:

1. Geno excelled over the final month because of his decision-making. His biggest issue as a pro has been panicking when under duress and throwing passes up for grabs. He's prone to the brain freeze. In the final month, Smith calmly found the open receiver. When no one was open, he made plays with his legs or got rid of the ball.

2. One huge reason that Smith made good decisions: He had time. The Jets protected Smith very well over the final month, which allowed him to show off his strengths. Smith has a strong arm and methodically goes through his reads better than plenty of his young contemporaries. A big question: If protection isn't so ideal in 2015, can he still excel?

3. Geno got me fired up enough to write this because he owns skills that are difficult to teach. He has excellent pocket movement, buying time to attempt passes. Some quarterbacks never get that sixth sense in the pocket; Geno has it. He is not afraid to make difficult throws, aggressively pushing the ball down the field. He looks off defenders.

4. The Jets didn't ask Smith to do too much. He ran the offense and didn't take too many chances.

5. In Weeks 14-16, Smith played solid midlevel starter football. He mostly stayed out of the way. But in the season finale, Smith put together one of the best games by any quarterback all season, throwing for 358 yards on only 25 attempts. He threw receivers open and even his incompletions were on point. The game showed off his big arm and his touch.

The Gailey effect

December was fun and all, but Smith wouldn't make our list if not for the arrival of Jets offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. In previous stops, Gailey has turned Tyler Thigpen into a starting fantasy option, helped Ryan Fitzpatrick get a $60 million contract and coached a Jay Fiedler-led Dolphins team to finish eighth in points scored.

Gailey accomplished all of the above by getting mediocre quarterbacks to play smart and get rid of the ball quickly. Smith has plenty of talent, and he certainly has the supporting cast. The Jets receiver posse -- Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jeremy Kerley, second-round pick Devin Smith and tight end Jace Amaro -- form one of the deeper groups in the league.

Gailey has cooked up numbers with far less talent. His best offenses are similar to the one that Smith excelled in at West Virginia. It's almost like the Jets had a plan here.

To put it another way: Geno, like Alex Smith in Kansas City, will no longer be the guy to hold the team back.

[The Franchise]

I actually agree with BossChief on Geno Smith. I think he'll succeed with Gailey as his OC this year. Plus his weapons are fantastic now.

[BossChief]

Wow, I had to go back a long way to find those. 2 1/2 years for 1 and 3 years for the other.

Crazy how you remember that stuff.

I sent my message to Path and in less than 10 minutes, he was complaining about it in the thread as if I hadn't already said as much in the thread. Seems he checked his rep quite often and placed a lot of weight to it.

My rep was basically exactly what others here have told him in this thread...that if he can't enjoy the Chiefs (and he didn't, he even said he stopped watching some of the games) he might want to take a break.

The only reason I even sent him a neg was because he wanted to call names. After getting his bs thrown back at him...same as any other poster that claims that "the Chiefs were basically a .500 team before Reid/Dorsey got here that only had one bad year. It's not like they were bad for 5+ years"

C'mon man, anybody that says that is gonna get it questioned.

[Predarat]

If you are up for it please keep posting in the NHL thread. Hell only about 6-7 of us will still know you are around.

[ModSocks]

Hell only about 6-7 of us will still know you are around.

LMAO

[dirk digler]

It's not just winning one playoff game - but building a team the way the Royals have done. I feel like we were on the right path, but pissed away a few good players and then stopped drafting well. A team of also-rans that goes 10-6 and wins one playoff game isn't going to do a lot to shake me out of my Chiefs torpor I feel.

I totally agree. I know for me I hold no hope for this team winning anything until they address the most important position on the field. As far as this year I know alot of people here are optimistic about this team but they better hope they start out 2-2 or the season is over before it even begins.

[beach tribe]

Your*

No, I meant you are shit.

No. No, I didn't.
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To make up for this lack of respect for the English language, I leave you with this bit of insight:
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[Eleazar]

Yet how many people wanted Dayton and Ned fired midseason last year?

LMAO

At most any point in the site's history, CP would have fired the Chiefs' head coach, chief's GM, flushed the whole staff, fired the Royals manager and GM, executed the owner, bencheded the Chiefs' starting QB, flushed most of the roster, and fired both Missouri and Kansas' football coaches. It's not affected by where a team is at the moment. There are few exceptions, like the Royals, but this place is massively, systemically pessimistic for some reason beyond what a middling team would expect. The Browns fans are probably more optimistic than CP is.

[Eleazar]

Wasn't Bosschief one of the posters that was adamant about the chiefs drafting Geno? That whole month or two before and right after the draft that year with Geno pretty much killed the football talk around here for me. It was a bunch of posters telling others that if you don't like Geno and the chiefs drafting him, then you are a moron. Pretty telling stuff really.

The draft tabulators did not start that act with the Geno-is-God offseason

[dirk digler]

At most any point in the site's history, CP would have fired the Chiefs' head coach, chief's GM, flushed the whole staff, fired the Royals manager and GM, executed the owner, bencheded the Chiefs' starting QB, flushed most of the roster, and fired both Missouri and Kansas' football coaches. It's not affected by where a team is at the moment. There are few exceptions, like the Royals, but this place is massively, systemically pessimistic for some reason beyond what a middling team would expect. The Browns fans are probably more optimistic than CP is.

Because alot of us are tired of being a middling team. We have seen to many teams go from shit to being in the SB in a matter of 2-3 years yet this team hasn't won a playoff since 1993. It is embarrassing.

[Predarat]

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[DaneMcCloud]

At most any point in the site's history, CP would have fired the Chiefs' head coach, chief's GM, flushed the whole staff, fired the Royals manager and GM, executed the owner, bencheded the Chiefs' starting QB, flushed most of the roster, and fired both Missouri and Kansas' football coaches. It's not affected by where a team is at the moment. There are few exceptions, like the Royals, but this place is massively, systemically pessimistic for some reason beyond what a middling team would expect. The Browns fans are probably more optimistic than CP is.

I absolutely agree but I don't think that truly happened until 2011.

I railed against the hiring of Pioli and Haley and absolutely hated their first draft, and people were like "WTF? Give it time. He's not the Executive of the Year for nothing, Bro!".

The real pessimism started in 2011, with the loss of Berry and Charles, the firing of Haley (the firing was justified and the right decision, IMO, although many against it) and the quick hiring of Crennel. And of course, we're all familiar with Eric's efforts, which grew into Save Our Chiefs, which ultimately led to the firing of Pioli's regime and the hiring of Dorsey and Reid.

Now, there's far too much impatience, especially for a team with two consecutive winning seasons, and a young roster, in which we've seen growth over the past two seasons, due to coaching. This franchise is finally headed in the right direction for the first time since 1989 but it seems that too many people "hate" them so much for the subpar seasons of yesteryear that they'll stop at nothing to remind everyone, ad nauseam, how bad they were in the past, as if that has any relevance to the present.

[Eleazar]

Because alot of us are tired of being a middling team. We have seen to many teams go from shit to being in the SB in a matter of 2-3 years yet this team hasn't won a playoff since 1993. It is embarrassing.

Yeah, but that's not how it goes. Any optimism is characterized as stupid, even cautious optimism when it's warranted.

This isn't a team that goes 4-12 every year, it often has winning records and sometimes makes playoff appearances. Sure, everyone wants more, but people acting like the team makes 0% of their decisions correctly is dumb.

[The Franchise]

I absolutely agree but I don't think that truly happened until 2011.

I railed against the hiring of Pioli and Haley and absolutely hated their first draft, and people were like "WTF? Give it time. He's not the Executive of the Year for nothing, Bro!".

The real pessimism started in 2011, with the loss of Berry and Charles, the firing of Haley (the firing was justified and the right decision, IMO, although many against it) and the quick hiring of Crennel. And of course, we're all familiar with Eric's efforts, which grew into Save Our Chiefs, which ultimately led to the firing of Pioli's regime and the hiring of Dorsey and Reid.

Now, there's far too much impatience, especially for a team with two consecutive winning seasons, and a young roster, in which we've seen growth over the past two seasons, due to coaching. This franchise is finally headed in the right direction for the first time since 1989 but it seems that too many people "hate" them so much for the subpar seasons of yesteryear that they'll stop at nothing to remind everyone, ad nauseam, how bad they were in the past, as if that has any relevance to the present.

And there is another section of people who will scream from the rooftops about how this season is going to be different and you aren't a fan if you can't see that. Guys like RunKC and staylor26 who consistently bash people because they question about if a player can do something or not (i.e. Chris Conley is the steal of the draft! Go put him on Alabama's offense and he would have caught 26 TDs!!!). For every pessimist who clouds the pool......there's another optimist doing the same fucking thing.

[BossChief]

Because alot of us are tired of being a middling team. We have seen to many teams go from shit to being in the SB in a matter of 2-3 years yet this team hasn't won a playoff since 1993. It is embarrassing.
So, your realistic expectation was to go from 2-14 to a Super Bowl in 2 years?

This team is gonna win a playoff game this year.

[The Franchise]

This team is gonna win a playoff game this year.

You can't be surprised when people around here can't see it.

[DaneMcCloud]

And there is another section of people who will scream from the rooftops about how this season is going to be different and you aren't a fan if you can't see that. Guys like RunKC and staylor26 who consistently bash people because they question about if a player can do something or not (i.e. Chris Conley is the steal of the draft! Go put him on Alabama's offense and he would have caught 26 TDs!!!). For every pessimist who clouds the pool......there's another optimist doing the same fucking thing.
I just ignore them, seriously, by skimming over their posts or by using the Ignore function. Inmem was an insufferable prick that I had on ignore for months, so it wasn't even until a thread was started that I realized he had wore out his welcome, not just with me, but with everyone.

The bottom line is somewhere in the middle for me: There's a really good chance this could be an epic season and yet, there's a really good chance that it could be another somewhat disappointing season.

But from my POV, the glass is more than half full regarding my expectations for 2015 and beyond under Dorsey & Reid, regardless of the current QB, which seems to be where all the fuss is concentrated.

[Eleazar]

And there is another section of people who will scream from the rooftops about how this season is going to be different and you aren't a fan if you can't see that.

Literally no one says that.

[Discuss Thrower]

So, your realistic expectation was to go from 2-14 to a Super Bowl in 2 years?

This team is gonna win a playoff game this year.

This logic pisses me off and it's not just because you're the one espousing it; it's a common as dirt narrative.. and I already know how you're going to counter this so go ahead and flame a-fucking-way:

Your realistic expectation was to go from 10-6 to a Super Bowl in four years?

[ChiefsCountry]

Now, there's far too much impatience, especially for a team with two consecutive winning seasons, and a young roster, in which we've seen growth over the past two seasons, due to coaching. This franchise is finally headed in the right direction for the first time since 1989 but it seems that too many people "hate" them so much for the subpar seasons of yesteryear that they'll stop at nothing to remind everyone, ad nauseam, how bad they were in the past, as if that has any relevance to the present.

Patience would be easier to have if they were breaking in a young quarterback. But you go out and trade for "franchise QB" who was 28/29, that's a win fucking now move. So you better win and win big. Especially with a roster that was talented to begin with, just needed coaching which Reid provided.

[The Franchise]

Literally no one says that.

Is my sarcasm meter broke?

[Iowanian]

Stay Golden, pony Boy.




I'd like to point out for those whining about these threads that they aren't a cry for attention, they are an Obligation to the board. This is your chance to fall on a grenade for the greater good of your brothers, and the booger eating morons in your unit by association.

[J Diddy]

And there is another section of people who will scream from the rooftops about how this season is going to be different and you aren't a fan if you can't see that. Guys like RunKC and staylor26 who consistently bash people because they question about if a player can do something or not (i.e. Chris Conley is the steal of the draft! Go put him on Alabama's offense and he would have caught 26 TDs!!!). For every pessimist who clouds the pool......there's another optimist doing the same ****ing thing.

and then there's me... A guy who understands that the level of optimism or pessimism has absolutely no bearing on jack shit.

We haven't even had a full pad practice let alone play a game. The crowing about what we'll do this season is more about the need for someone to inflate their obviously depleted ego.

[BossChief]

I absolutely agree but I don't think that truly happened until 2011.

I railed against the hiring of Pioli and Haley and absolutely hated their first draft, and people were like "WTF? Give it time. He's not the Executive of the Year for nothing, Bro!".

The real pessimism started in 2011, with the loss of Berry and Charles, the firing of Haley (the firing was justified and the right decision, IMO, although many against it) and the quick hiring of Crennel. And of course, we're all familiar with Eric's efforts, which grew into Save Our Chiefs, which ultimately led to the firing of Pioli's regime and the hiring of Dorsey and Reid.

Now, there's far too much impatience, especially for a team with two consecutive winning seasons, and a young roster, in which we've seen growth over the past two seasons, due to coaching. This franchise is finally headed in the right direction for the first time since 1989 but it seems that too many people "hate" them so much for the subpar seasons of yesteryear that they'll stop at nothing to remind everyone, ad nauseam, how bad they were in the past, as if that has any relevance to the present.
Exactly.

A huge portion of CP thinks this is just "another time going to the same movie expecting it to end differently" and IMO nothing could be further from the truth.


You can't be surprised when people around here can't see it.

I'm just working on my next "I told you so" stuff. :evil:

[beach tribe]

Just checked my neg reps. I have given ONE since 2010, and that was in 2012 for a neg pile on Jiu Jitsu Jon.

Ya'll are a bunch of Fn Women.

[dirk digler]

Yeah, but that's not how it goes. Any optimism is characterized as stupid, even cautious optimism when it's warranted.

This isn't a team that goes 4-12 every year, it often has winning records and sometimes makes playoff appearances. Sure, everyone wants more, but people acting like the team makes 0% of their decisions correctly is dumb.

Fair enough but I am one that doesn't do that.

If you look at the last 10 years this team is 75-101. They are more likely to go 4-12 than 10-6.

[J Diddy]

Just checked my neg reps. I have given ONE since 2010, and that was in 2012 for a neg pile on Jiu Jitsu Jon.

Ya'll are a bunch of Fn Women.

You should go to my non football bitch thread I just started to air those concerns.

[dirk digler]

So, your realistic expectation was to go from 2-14 to a Super Bowl in 2 years?

This team is gonna win a playoff game this year.

My realistic expectation is to win playoff games and compete for a SB.

I hope so but I am not counting on it.

[Eleazar]

Fair enough but I am one that doesn't do that.

If you look at the last 10 years this team is 75-101. They are more likely to go 4-12 than 10-6.

Carl and Herm are long gone. Pioli and Haley and Romeo are long gone. That history is completely unrelated to the decision makers with the team today.

[BossChief]

Patience would be easier to have if they were breaking in a young quarterback. But you go out and trade for "franchise QB" who was 28/29, that's a win ****ing now move. So you better win and win big. Especially with a roster that was talented to begin with, just needed coaching which Reid provided.

I think they have exceeded expectations, looking at the big picture.

So quickly people forget how bad this team was. Banners, Cassel getting cheered when he got hurt, being a punch line on South Park, the whole Belcher scenario, candy wrappers, constantly getting blown out...this team and franchise was a joke.

They made the win now move (as you pointed out) and have won 20 games in 2 years for a team that only won 29 games in the previous 6 seasons combined.

They have done so while replacing the overrated and overpaid talent we had with younger and cheaper players.

[ChiefsCountry]

I think they have exceeded expectations, looking at the big picture.

So quickly people forget how bad this team was. Banners, Cassel getting cheered when he got hurt, being a punch line on South Park, the whole Belcher scenario, candy wrappers, constantly getting blown out...this team and franchise was a joke.

They made the win now move (as you pointed out) and have won 20 games in 2 years for a team that only won 29 games in the previous 6 seasons combined.

They have done so while replacing the overrated and overpaid talent we had with younger and cheaper players.

Talent was in place. Piss poor management and coaching doesn't discount when your best players are already on the team and coming into their prime. They won 7 games with fucking Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton at the helm. Reid got them back on track to win 10 games which is what the team is built for. Its never going to be a Super Bowl contender because of Alex Smith. So we are back to Marty era again, which is fine but don't expect anymore out of it.

[Willie Lanier]

No, I meant you are shit.

No. No, I didn't.
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To make up for this lack of respect for the English language, I leave you with this bit of insight:
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:)

Heh guess I thought I was getting a 1 up on the language nazi police, my bad I submit

[BossChief]

Talent was in place. Piss poor management and coaching doesn't discount when your best players are already on the team and coming into their prime. They won 7 games with ****ing Tyler Palko and Kyle Orton at the helm. Reid got them back on track to win 10 games which is what the team is built for. Its never going to be a Super Bowl contender because of Alex Smith. So we are back to Marty era again, which is fine but don't expect anymore out of it.

Of course we had talent, we had like 6 probowlers on a 2 win team.

Trouble is, that talent was paper thin and outside of maybe 10 players, the team needed to hit the restart button.

Reid and Dorsey identified the guys they saw as the core for the long term building of a contender and is building around them while moving on from everyone else.

So far, it's worked out very well for them.

This team is getting built to be a monster in the playoffs, not like Marty's teams...which were almost always one sided.

[DaneMcCloud]

Patience would be easier to have if they were breaking in a young quarterback. But you go out and trade for "franchise QB" who was 28/29, that's a win fucking now move. So you better win and win big. Especially with a roster that was talented to begin with, just needed coaching which Reid provided.

I understand how that could apply to some. But keep in mind, Dorsey and Reid have upgraded the talent in all three phases of the game, mostly through the draft but also through the waiver wire (Parker & Jaye Howard come to mind).

They did what was necessary to immediately turn around this franchise in 2013 by trading for a solid, veteran QB. Had they chosen to draft an EJ Manuel or Geno Smith, this team would have been 4-12 at best or 8-24 over the past two seasons, leaving the fans even further disgruntled and apathetic.

Dorsey & Reid's history shows that they will address the QB position but that they'll also be patient in doing so. Meanwhile, the core of this team will continue to ascend through coaching and experience.

IMO, it's no different than what happened in Seattle, although the Chiefs current starter is much better than Tavaris Jackson or (LOL), Charlie Whitehurst.

[RunKC]

This team had a handful of talent on defense and Jamaal Charles. That was it. Go look at the 2012 roster and you'll see.

Our WR's sans Bowe weren't good at all.
Our OL sans Hudson and an injury prone Albert wasn't good.
Our TE's sucked
Our DL was okay
Our entire secondary sans Berry and Flowers was absolute garbage.

This team had a ton of holes and only a few very talented players.