Jaye Howard

[Shaid]

Lock this man up with a contract now.

[Easy 6]

Absofreakinlutely.

[dannybcaitlyn]

What a Beast! Had a great game.

[Urc Burry]

Yes. Tomorrow.

I hope we can find a way to squeeze Sean Smith in, too. I never want to see an abortion of a game like that from a corner again

[jimidollar]

Yes, pay the man. Hopefully he'll stick around long enough to play for a competent qb and coach.

[Prison Bitch]

He was great. He should give Jamaal a code red in the locker room

[jonzie04]

He almost shut down the Broncos run game by himself.. Jesus, what did he have 5 or 6 tackles at the LOS?

[Setsuna]

Go Gators baby.

[aturnis]

Lock this man up with a contract now.
This.

[mylittlepony]

It would send a solid message to the locker room. We pay people who show up big in big games. It will be a carrot to already good players and a message to the scrubs that if they don't shape up then they might be out sooner then they think.

[ILChief]

He is a beast. Him and Poe are both going to get paid! Here or somewhere else.

[Sandy Vagina]

Have to expect this to happen soon. He's just too good, and in all honesty, can help give KC security and leverage in any upcoming Poe contract talks.

[Shaid]

Have to expect this to happen soon. He's just too good, and in all honesty, can help give KC security and leverage in any upcoming Poe contract talks.

Agreed. If we end up losing Poe we still have a stud in the middle. If we keep both, holy shit!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Best player on either D line last night

[mcaj22]

franchise tag potential?

[Shaid]

franchise tag potential?

That's why we need to sign him now before we need to go down that road and while he's still a little cheaper. We have other players to deal with and we need the Tag as leverage.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

They'll try to pay Howard and Stephenson soon if I had to guess, and the rest of the money will go towards DJ, Berry, Hali(?), etc.

Gotta keep the young bucks though.

[DaneMcCloud]

I've been saying this for a month but people argued against it.

If he'd go for Bailey's deal, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

With Hali clearly on the downhill slide, if we can lock up a front of Houston, Poe, Bailey and Howard... I'll be happy. Hopefully Ford figures it out, he got a QB hit last night in one of his only snaps.

[RunKC]

People are going to bitch about it but it's the truth.

Jaye Howard is better than Dontari Poe

[ThaVirus]

After a couple games I don't think we can make that determination. Especially considering the fact that Poe's injured.

[ThaVirus]

He has impressed, though.

[the Talking Can]

can we pay both?


and yeah, heretical...but howard might end up being more bang for the buck (runs for hills....)

[ThaVirus]

There's also still value in playing Hali.

He did a good job of staying home last night and helping to set the edge on run downs. The 4th down we stopped them on early has to be credited to Hali.

[Pablo]

He was fucking great last night.

[RunKC]

Love Poe but he is very suspect against the run. Howard is more of a complete player

[Shaid]

I agree that right now I think Howard is better than Poe. You also have Poe coming off a back surgery. If it's one or the other, I take Howard. I'd still love them both.

[Dante84]

People are going to bitch about it but it's the truth.

Jaye Howard is better than Dontari Poe

At the moment? Yes.

In general? No.


I do think Poe has lost weight, and it has impacted his play negatively, but probably impacted his health/recovery time positively.

Ideally, we get him back to 100% and then bulk his ass up to recover those 15-20 pounds he lost.

[ChiTown]

By the way, if Jaye Howard is only 301 pounds, I'll eat my hat. Dude has to be pushing 320+

[jonzie04]

By the way, if Jaye Howard is only 301 pounds, I'll eat my hat. Dude has to be pushing 320+

They said he was up to 330 during TC.

[RunKC]

3rd highest ranked NT on PFF. Dude is such a beast.

Chiefs are going to need to use all their money to sign players back this offseason like GB just did this spring.

DJ
Stephenson
Howard

Sean Smith and Tamba Hali are maybes

[The Franchise]

Hali is done after this year.

[Kman34]

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I agree....

[ct]

Howard will command far less $ than Poe with similar production, makes far more sense to lock him up and let Poe walk after next year

Hali is done imo, this is his swan song in KC, hope it's a sweet one
Might be the same story for DJ, but i do think he's still got juice

I'm gonna wait and see on Stephenson for a bit before I agree to sit down for a new contract with him.

[Mr. Laz]

Howard will command far less $ than Poe with similar production, makes far more sense to lock him up and let Poe walk after next year

Hali is done imo, this is his swan song in KC, hope it's a sweet one
Might be the same story for DJ, but i do think he's still got juice

I'm gonna wait and see on Stephenson for a bit before I agree to sit down for a new contract with him.

we are probably going to need 2 new OT's next year. :banghead:

fisher will probably be release unless he take a paycut
Dorsey hasn't show much interest in paying OT to keep stephenson

constantly dicking around with the Oline is frustrating

going to difficult decision about Poe unless he gets fully healthy and turns it up this year


sign Howard to an extension right now, price is only going to go up

[RunKC]

We have $35 million next spring. Lotta money.

DJ-5 mil
Stephenson-9 mil
Howard-6 mil

It's Sean Smith who will likely be gone. And that's okay. I actually like what I've seen from Phillip Gaines starting so far. He did a nice job vs Manning.

Much rather roll with Steven Nelson, a FA and a 2016 draft pick at CB for depth than pay Sean $13 million to start.

[BossChief]

We have $35 million next spring. Lotta money.

DJ-5 mil
Stephenson-9 mil
Howard-6 mil

It's Sean Smith who will likely be gone. And that's okay. I actually like what I've seen from Phillip Gaines starting so far. He did a nice job vs Manning.

Much rather roll with Steven Nelson, a FA and a 2016 draft pick at CB for depth than pay Sean $13 million to start.

We only have 115m spoken for next year and the cap is supposed to rise to 150-155m...we are also currently 9m under the 2015 cap and that fully rolls over.

Without any cuts or restructures, we will have close to 50m in cap space.

Here's the list of free agents next year...

Howard
Berry
Stephenson
Abdullah
Allen
Devito
Branch
Smith
Johnson

[the Talking Can]

stephenson has a lot to prove before I'm giving him $9 mill a year

i assume sean smith is gone, feels like poe and howard will have to be a choice, that's a lot of money to tie up in one group regardless of the cap...but dorsey seems to have a pretty good financial plan, so who knows

we really need a good young player behind dj

[thabear04]

We only have 115m spoken for next year and the cap is supposed to rise to 150-155m...we are also currently 9m under the 2015 cap and that fully rolls over.

Without any cuts or restructures, we will have close to 50m in cap space.

Here's the list of free agents next year...

Howard
Berry
Stephenson
Abdullah
Allen
Devito
Branch
Smith
Johnson


Chase Daniel
Frank Zombo
Jason Avant
Jamell Fleming
Jah Reid
Dezman Moses
Marcus Cooper
Daniel Sorensen FA
Frankie Hammond
Demetrius Harris
Charcandrick West
Nick Williams
Tavon Rooks

[BossChief]

Chase Daniel
Frank Zombo
Jason Avant
Jamell Fleming
Jah Reid
Dezman Moses
Marcus Cooper
Daniel Sorensen FA
Frankie Hammond
Demetrius Harris
Charcandrick West
Nick Williams
Tavon Rooks

The bolded are restricted free agents or exclusive rights free agents...the rest can go fly kites for all I care. The only intriguing one is Chase.

[RunKC]

I wonder who Dorsey will draft to replace in this next draft? Let's hope it's Alex.

[BossChief]

With how well Howard has played at NT, it's really disturbing that Sutton hasn't used him and Poe at a rotation over the last couple years.

Also, this staff needs to move Poe to DE and make this DL stupid good.

Bailey
Howard
Poe

[suzzer99]

Albert must have really wanted out or something. We'd be so much better off right now with him anchoring the line and spend 1.1 on something else.

[BossChief]

Albert must have really wanted out or something. We'd be so much better off right now with him anchoring the line and spend 1.1 on something else.

Not sure that's right. Albert had showed signs of his body breaking down before we let him walk and missed half of last year to injury and is already hurt this year, too.

[Saccopoo]

Albert must have really wanted out or something. We'd be so much better off right now with him anchoring the line and spend 1.1 on something else.

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[salame]

He would be cheaper to keep than Poe and so far there hasn't been much drop off.

[ChiefRocka]

Fisher, Berry, Hali, Poe....Go

[philfree]

We need to keep all of our D linemen. We need to embrace a defensive identity. And keep it and then when hell freezes over and we have an offense like we did under DV we'll ............Actually have a great team. Maybe even Super.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

IMPRESSIVE fucking specimen.

[Shaid]

Yeah, I think DJ has a couple years left in him but we absolutely need to look for a replacement. It took a while before he became the stud he is now, we need a similar skillset and someone who can be coached.

I agree with Tamba being done. I'd sign him as a coach, the man has a crazy work ethic.

I still really want Sean Smith back but I don't want to overpay for it either. We need a tall corner with coverage skills to keep with Peters. He's it. We won't easily find someone to replace him. Maybe the suspension lets us get him at a discounted rate, who knows.

Poe is a stud so we keep him if we can but likely we get Howard for cheaper. Sign Howard now, save the tag for Poe. If we can sign him, great. Otherwise, trade him.

[CoMoChief]

Yeah, I think DJ has a couple years left in him but we absolutely need to look for a replacement. It took a while before he became the stud he is now, we need a similar skillset and someone who can be coached.

I agree with Tamba being done. I'd sign him as a coach, the man has a crazy work ethic.

I still really want Sean Smith back but I don't want to overpay for it either. We need a tall corner with coverage skills to keep with Peters. He's it. We won't easily find someone to replace him. Maybe the suspension lets us get him at a discounted rate, who knows.

Poe is a stud so we keep him if we can but likely we get Howard for cheaper. Sign Howard now, save the tag for Poe. If we can sign him, great. Otherwise, trade him.

Lmao why do ppl always insist on former players becoming coaches?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

He would be cheaper to keep than Poe and so far there hasn't been much drop off.

we'll be a better team with both. Everybody has been bitching about not giving Poe a rest. So are we supposed to treat Howard the same way ? Ad putting them both on the field together , which we did against Denver is wonderful.

[Shaid]

Lmao why do ppl always insist on former players becoming coaches?

lmao, Emmit Thomas.


Seriously, the guys uses his hands better than anyone in the NFL and has an insane work ethic. He's a guy you try as a coach. I'm sure as hell not going to recommend we bring back Priest as a RB coach. Certain players make good coaches and I think he could be one.

[xztop123]

He is amazing to watch on our goalline D.

[xztop123]

I'll be interested to see who gets picked on when Smith and Peters are both playing.

Smith always surprises me with his speed for being so tall and big

[BWillie]

Agreed. If we end up losing Poe we still have a stud in the middle. If we keep both, holy shit!

Why would you keep two nose tackles? You trade one, don't you?

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Why would you keep two nose tackles? You trade one, don't you?

Surely you're kidding !

[Brock]

Why would you keep two nose tackles? You trade one, don't you?

Sure! Keep playing poe on 96 percent of defensive snaps! Should be fine!

[BWillie]

Sure! Keep playing poe on 96 percent of defensive snaps! Should be fine!
I mean ideally its nice to have two good ones, but if you have two really good ones you can probably get more value to your club by trading the other one. Just my thoughts, Im no GM.

[Mr. Laz]

I think i actually prefer Howard power at NT over Poe's speed.

Poe's speed would be more even more effective at DE.


Ford,Allen,Howard,Poe,Houston


bring it!!

[Shaid]

I think i actually prefer Howard power at NT over Poe's speed.

Poe's speed would be more even more effective at DE.


Ford,Allen,Howard,Poe,Houston


bring it!!

I've thought about that too. Such a strong line, outside of Ford. It's be impossible to run up the middle.

[salame]

I'd rather pay Sean Smith and Jaye Howard and let Poe walk.

[Easy 6]

People are going to bitch about it but it's the truth.

Jaye Howard is better than Dontari Poe

When Howard has six sacks from the nose, let us know.

Its possible he has a better feel for the run, but as an overall athletic specimen... its Poe.

[RealSNR]

I think i actually prefer Howard power at NT over Poe's speed.

Poe's speed would be more even more effective at DE.


Ford,Allen,Howard,Poe,Houston


bring it!!

Absolutely.

Poe Howard Bailey is a rapesome future defensive line.

[Brock]

I wouldn't mind seeing poe play some de.

[Rausch]

I'll be interested to see who gets picked on when Smith and Peters are both playing.

Smith always surprises me with his speed for being so tall and big

He's a rookie so he's still going to get tested.

By the end of this year though...

[Rausch]

I wouldn't mind seeing poe play some de.

Have Hali line up next to Poe, then Howard Bailey and Houston?

Get your rape face on...

[aturnis]

I mean ideally its nice to have two good ones, but if you have two really good ones you can probably get more value to your club by trading the other one. Just my thoughts, Im no GM.
They can both play NT and DE. Pick your starter at NT, the other is the emergency NT and staying DE. Rotate them as needed for current looks.

Bailey
Poe
Howard

Is a winning combo any way you slice it.